I recently got my 35% food grade H2O2. Prior to yesterday, I'd only had one drop in water and done a few topical applications. Last night, I took 1 drop orally in a cup of water and applied 2 drops (in water) on my skin. About an hour later, I started to experience a strange sensation in my left ear. It was like a loud pulse or soft thud but more irregular - a bit like when one of your muscles starts twitching for no apparent reason. I must say though, it did feel like there was something right next to my ear drum, thrashing around or trying to chew through the drum itself - but there's probably a perfectly good non-bug related explanation for it (my boyfriend thinks I've lost the plot!!). To start with, there was one thud every 30 seconds or so but the frequency quickly increased to about 3 a second and continued for a couple of hours until I went to bed. Each thudding sensation was also accompanied by a mini head-rush much like when you yawn but not so strong that I wasn't able to concentrate (I would have been reluctant to drive or go out while it was happening though). I used a zapper by my ear and the frequency seemed to decrease a little. Sometimes it would stop for 30 seconds and I'd think it had stopped for good then it would come back with high frequency like it had never stopped. There was no pain, it was just extremely disconcerting and I was almost convinced that I was going to find a bug of some description on my pillow this morning.
I'll point out here that about 4 years ago I developed a strange thing with my left ear. Basically, when I sleep on my left side, on the ear itself, I start to develop ear ache very quickly (after about 10 minutes of being on that ear)- the pain is within the ear, not on the ear lobe itself. If I'm asleep, it will wake me up and I'll have to turn over to stop the pain. I saw an ENT specialist a couple of years ago, but an examination revealed that there was nothing out of order as far as he could tell. I haven't had sinus problems and I've never really been able to work out what that one was about. A kinesiologist did once tell me that I had candida in my ear so I don't know whether that could have caused the sensations I've experienced. Today - although the thuding has stopped, I still have pain when I lie on my left ear.
Has anyone come across anything like this before?? What do you reckon it was?
Thanks!
Tamsin
Sorry, I don't know exactly what could be causing the thuding in your ear, since I haven't experienced anything like that myself. It could be candida or bacteria, or perhaps parasites. The thuding could be caused by the oxidation of these pathogens. Then again, maybe it's something else entirely. However, you said you've had trouble with your ear in the past, so it probably has something to do with that. If there is an infection or injury in your ear, the peroxide will react with it the same way it will with an external injury - such as when you apply peroxide to a wound (it will bubble and be somewhat uncomfortable or even painful.) Try pouring some of the dilluted peroxide directly in your ear. That may clear it up more quickly.
When I first starting taking a low dose of peroxide (1 drop in a cup of water) I would get extremely dizzy and fatigued, and I would have to lie down for several hours afterward! My main illness symptoms had been dizzyness and fatigue after eating or being exposed to chemical odors, so the peroxide was obviously reacting with something in my head that had been giving me those symptoms. In other words, it's normal to experience symptoms and reactions in the areas that have been giving you trouble.
I also had other wierd detox reactions like several small black things coming out of my skin, cold sores, bad acne, joint pain, mild headaches, hives, rashes, and lots of other things. People can have all sorts of reactions depending on what kinds of chronic infections or illnesses they have. That's why it's helpful to start slowly. Detox and healing can be very difficult, but I think doing regular liver flushes once or more per week helps a lot. Hot baths, and excercise help a lot with detox symptoms too.
Thanks for sharing your experiences - this stuff sure does some strange things to a person... but it's all good even if it's weird and somewhat unbelieveable to those that haven't expereienced it! I'll try the diluted peroxide in my ear.
I did a successful double liver cleanse yesterday (much better with grapefruit!!) - have not been so wiped out this time which is good. My chemical intolerences have been very bad recently but I'm also seeing that as a good sign!! Despite feeling the worst I've felt in ages, I've got such a good feeling about this.
Will keep you posted. Good luck with your regime!
Congratulations on your successful "double liver flush"! I take it this means you did two flushes in one day?
You mentioned the liver cleanse was better with grapefruit juice - what kind of juice were you using before? I tried lemon juice one time and found it to be horrible! Grapefruit juice tastes so much better! Did you thoroughly shake the oil with the juice? Doing this makes it go down a lot easier than drinking them seperately like some of the recipes recomend.
Did your chemical intolerences become worse before or after you started the peroxide? Mine were much worse during the first month I was using peroxide, but then later they got better.
I'm currently thinking that maybe it isn't such a good idea to be using peroxide if you have a liver full of stones... If your liver is full of stones, using peroxide to oxidize pathogens and toxins would likely place an even larger burden on the liver. I'm just speculating, but it seems like having a clean liver would make the peroxide detox easier. My detox was VERY difficult, and I'm wondering if it might have been easier and more effective if I had waited until my liver was clean first...
From the testemonials I've read people seem to be able clear up their allergies and sensitivites using nothing but the liver cleanse, so perhaps peroxide isn't even neccessary? Peroxide seems to be great for clearing up chronic infections and toxins, but perhaps liver cleansing should be done first for people who need them? What do you think? Makes sense doesn't it?
If your experience is anything like mine, in a few months you'll be feeling MUCH better! After about a year of not being able to work or even leave the house, I'm finally well enough to get back to my old life again! My health is still far from "perfect", but at least it's back to how it was before I became so ill last year. I'm still getting lots of stones out with each flush (I'm doing a "double flush" every four days), and my health is continuing to improve on a weekly basis (each week is better than the previous one!)
Yep - two flushes in one day. I started the day not eating anything and just having the Epsom Salts to drink. Then had half the amount of oil with pink grapefruit juice at 4pm, skaken not stirred. Mmmm tastes good. Before I was drinking the oil straight (due to concerns with sugar levels from the fruit as I hadn't had any for so long). I had two more Epsom Salt drinks at 8pm and 10 pm and did the second lot of oil and grapefruit juice at midnight. Do you normally have the epsom salts in between? How many hours to you wait between consuming the oil drink?
It's hard to say whether my chemical intolerances have got worse since starting the H2O2 - they've been really bad again anyway since I started detoxing - taking anti parasitic stuff and doing the liver cleanses. I think that as long as you take it slowly with the peroxide and do the liver cleanses as frequently as possible to get as many toxins out it should be ok and not place too large a burden on the liver. I guess it depends what kind of state your liver's in. I started the liver cleansing before the H2O2 and had already got a lot of stones out. It'd be interesting to hear how people coped with H2O2 without doing a liver cleanse first. Having said that though - I think the majority of people who have tried H2O2 as a therapy in the past haven't done it in conjunction with liver cleanses and they still got positive effects. But if I had to recommend to someone which order to do it in, I'd probably say do at least a couple of liver cleanses first to get things moving down there. So at least there's a more efficient exit point for toxins when you start the H2O2 (which will undoubtedly stir up more toxins for the liver to process). And I'd also go with your advice of saying start veeeery slowly with the H2O2. It's powerful stuff.
When doing this kind of detoxing, I think the key is probably to aim to get light detox symptoms that you can deal with and carry on almost as normal instead of doing too much and being flat on your back.
That's great that you've managed to get your life back. Chemical sensitivities are so debilitating and restrictive. And that's not even mentioning all the food sensitivies and energy problems and plethora of other things that accompanies these illnesses. If I meet a person wearing perfume or aftershave I instantly dislike them because they're causing me so many problems and, despite unknowingly, dictating where I can go or stand in a room, or even outside. I've been lucky at my work and have been able to work from home in a chemical free zone, or if I do have to go to the office, I've ensured that everyone I'm liable to be around, knows not to wear scent. They've all been pretty good about it - they just think I'm a little odd but have grown to accept it. And let's face it, it's in their best interests not to wear these things anyway. They're toxic to them even though they don't know it.
I've just this minute received Nutrition and Physical Degeneration through the post. And yesterday I got The Amazing Liver Cleanse by Andreas Moritz . Looking forward to reading those!!
Keep going on the cleansing stuff - sounds like you're getting some fantastic results and you certainly deserve to!!
All the best
Tamsin
I've actually been doing the liver flushes WITHOUT epsom salt, but as long as I do enemas, I've found I don't need it. I just did a flush yesterday, and got LOTS of stones out. However, I was too nauseaus after the first flush, so I decided not to do a second. I don't know the optimal time to wait between flushes, but I'd say at least one to three hours or longer.
Good for you - keep on getting those pesky stones out!!! In a funny way, I really look forward to these liver cleanses. It's just one step towards the exceptional health I'm aiming at. I want to grow old with lots of energy and enthusiasm - God knows, I've already done the feeling old bit!
Ahh - that's useful to know. I'm sure having as much Epsom Salt as I am at the moment with all these liver cleanses is probably not so good for my guts anyway. If I can do without it then that's great. Do you normally do an enema before starting the flush to clear things out first? Then do you just do one enema after the flush..? How many hours after the flush? Do you just use water for it or spice it up with a bit of Bentonite clay or coffee? Do you use H2O2 in the enema solution as well? Have you ever used the kefir in the enema to repopulate the bacteria? (Haven't yet received the starter crystals thru the post but should do shortly).
Sorry for lots of questions!! I'm up to 2 drops of H2O2 orally and topically. So far so good. I keep getting itchy hives so something's definitely happening (haven't seen any bugs crawing out of me but keeping my eyes open! - eeew!). For doing the topical application - I've started applying whilst exercising so my body temp is up and it is able to dry on my body. I'm also using less water to dilute with because otherwise it seems to take forever. Do you think there would be any problem with applying it whilst sitting in the sun? Not sure whether there would be some kind of reaction with UV rays ...
I usually do an enema before the flush, and then one after. Sometimes I get stones out with an enema as soon as two or three hours after the flush, however it seems that when I have larger stones they take longer to come out. Usually by the next day. I usually just use plain water, but in the past I've used 1-2 tablespoons of vinegar or 15 drops of h2o2 to kill any harmful candida or bacteria. I haven't tried clay, coffee, or kefir in an enema. Did you get your kefir culture from GEM? Is it real kefir grains?
I don't think it's really all that important to let it dry on your skin. Most of it just evaporates anyway, and very little is actually absorbed. This is normal. However, using drops of peroxide is cheap, so even if you're only absorbing 10% of it, it's still very effective. You DON'T need to apply the whole cup of water to your skin. The water is just for dilluting the peroxide. Just apply small amounts to your skin and leave it on for at least a few minutes, and save the rest for later. If this isn't potent enough, increase the number of drops per cup of water, or apply more of it to a larger area of your skin, or apply it more frequently throughout the day, etc.
When I first started, I could only handle about 1 drop in a cup of water, and even at that dose it caused a severe reaction! However I was VERY ill, and perhaps you can handle a larger concentration. I can now handle direct 3% applied to my skin in small amounts, which is what a normal healthy person should be capable of tolerating. However, I believe it's best to work up to this amount just to be on the safe side. Try increasing your dose by several drops per day, until you get to the point where it's too uncomfortable to tolerate, and then back off a bit. This will increase your rate of detox. I don't know if UV light would effect it or not.
If you want to maximize your absorbtion of it, you can mix some of the dilluted peroxide water (but NOT full strength 35%!) with some olive oil. The oil will prevent it from evaporating as quickly and more of it will be absorbed. This will make it more potent and more efficient, but more of a hassle. I personally prefer just applying it straight to my skin while in the bath or relaxing on my bed. Experiment a little bit, and you'll eventually get the hang of it!
The Kefir grains that I've ordered are through a guy called Dominic N. Anfiteatro - here's his personal website...
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html
In fact I think I got it through one of your postings! Seems like a decent chap and his website was really informative. Looking forward to making some of the stuff. I think the water kefir will be particularly beneficial when travelling - so long as I can keep the culture going.
I bought a small pump spray pot over the weekend and have been spraying a small amount of 3% H2O2 on my skin (very convenient to do on the fly!). Seem to be handling it ok so far - just some slight discolouration of the skin which fades pretty quickly. Have also started to spray my throat so I'll see if there's any improvement in that area!
Got another liver cleanse on the cards tonight. Am actually looking forward to that grapefruit/oil cocktail - have soooo missed the taste of fruit over the last couple of years! Will try the H2O2 enema and see how it goes.
If you have any problems making the kefir, let me know! I can probably give you a few tips...
The pump spray is a good idea! I hadn't thought of that!
You say it's discoloring your skin? That's wierd! I haven't had that happen except with the 35%! I know that with higher concentrations it can oxidize the dead skin cells on the surface of your skin, turning the surface of your skin white for a brief period of time, but then it goes away, and leaves your skin very smooth! It makes a very good exfoliant!
You're able to handle the 3% on your skin? Good for you! When I first started I could barely handle 0.01% peroxide! It made me extremely dizzy and fatigued and gave me a headache! But I was VERY ill at the time, and very toxic and allergic to everything I came into contact with, so perhaps that explains it. Have you been having any more detox symptoms? How's your ear doing?
Be careful with the enema! The usual reccomendation is no more than 15 drops of 35% per liter of water. But you should start with a much lower dose the first time. If you have lots of bacteria or candida, the heavy oxidation can cause a lot of discomfort at first. Go slowly, and take a probiotic supplement (or kefir), and perhaps a yogurt or kefir enema.
I've had good results with vinegar enemas too. Add 1 or 2 tablespoons of vinegar to a 2 liter enema bag. For even greater effectiveness, use vinegar that has had raw cloves of garlic soaking in it. I usually use organic raw apple cider vinegar. You can also drink it too - 1 tablespoon in a cup of water before meals. It's very good for candida, bacteria, viruses, etc. When vinegar (also known as "acetic acid") is combined with peroxide it makes "peracetic acid" which is even more potent than either alone, yet still very safe!
Yeah - it slightly discoloured the skin on my legs (had slightly white patches) but not for long. That was at a 3% concentration. I also spilt some 35% on the floor and trod in it without realising. Parts of the soles of my feet turned very white but I was surprised when it turned back to normal skin colour after a couple of hours - I envisioned that skin being dead and thought it would drop off. I'm currently spraying small amounts of H2O2 at 3%, in fact it's only about 1.5% now as I wanted to dilute it a bit more for my throat. I'm also up to 2 drops of 35% in water morning and evening. As for being able to handle these levels of H2O2 - well I totally overdid it yesterday and had a headache and was dizzy and a little shaky during the evening. Was ok by the time I went to bed. Did the oil/grapefruit drink and was totally wiped out when I had to get up this morning but am not really surprised!
A couple of weeks ago when I started the H2O2 treatment, two drops 35% in water made me feel totally horrible - gave me depression for a day amongst other nasty detox symptoms. I've grown to tolerate it quite quickly - the liver cleanses are probably helping with that. Still currently have my chemical intolerences and is hard to tell what's happening with the food ones because I think my guts are upset by the H2O2 anyway.
I've had no more strange noises in my ear and unfortunately I still get earache when I lie on it for longer than a couple of minutes. I was hoping that would have been sorted by whatever happened last week. I'll spray in my ear and see whether that improves anything.
With regards to the apple cider vinegar - I've read in so many places that it's good for you. However, I haven't been able to tolerate it for years. Do you think that's purely because it gives such strong die off symptoms that I thought it was just a normal intolerance? In which case it would probably be good to persevere with it...?
I'm not surprised you overdid it! I think the 3% is probably way too strong for you. It's equivalent to about 500-600 drops of 35% peroxide per cup of water! Healthy people are usually able to handle this without any problems, but I think you should dillute it first. All your symptoms will continue to be bad while you're detoxing, but the liver flushes should help a lot.
For your ear, lie on your side, and spray it or pour it into your ear and hold it for as long as you can (or until it stops bubbling). The bubbling will sound very loud since it's in your ear! I've used 3% without a problem, but you might want to start at a lower concentration and work up to 3%.
What kinds of symptoms do you get from the vinegar? If it's the same as your other food allergies, then I'd say that's what it is. It shouldn't cause the same effect as peroxide because it kills the microbes by being too acidic for them, and not by oxidizing them. It's the oxidation that occurs when in contact with the microbes or toxins that makes peroxide uncomfortable to use. However, large numbers of dying bacteria or fungus can cause detox symptoms, so perhaps that's what it is... I don't know. I'm allergic to vinegar, but I never seem to have a reaction when I use it in an enema for some reason... perhaps you won't either.
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