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  • ***WARNING*** of 671 by  Lapis  10 year  5,840     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE  Metabolic Typing
    • As Promised..2 by  Lapis  10 year  6,032     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
    • Re: ***WARNING***26 by  grog  10 year  4,604     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
    • Re: ***WARNING***35 by  Ready2Rapture  10 year  4,303     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
      • Re: ***WARNING***36 by  Lapis  10 year  4,319     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
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          • Re: ***WARNING***38 by  grog  10 year  4,185     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
          • Re: ***WARNING***39 by  moderneli  10 year  4,186     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
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            • Re: ***WARNING***45 by  Winterpegger  9 year  4,132
              I just stumbled across this forum as I was doing a search on the Metabolic Typing program in Wolcott's book. I see there is a lot of controversy over what is "correct" metabolic typing. I'm not really interested in all the scandal, I just want to know what works! How is your experiment going? Was it a good investment? I like the idea that all of us are individuals and we all have different nutritional needs. It makes sense to me.

              Also, I'm just wondering what happened to that phone call idea? And how about phoning Bill Wolcott as well. There's two sides to every story. It would be interesting to hear them both. Wolcott does nothing but honour Dr. Kelly in his book. That says something about the man I think.

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            • how is it going moderneli?47 by  Winterpegger  9 year  4,137
              I'm just learning how to do this posting thing. Anyway the only reason I signed up was to find out how your Metabolic Typing treatment is going. Is it a good investment? Looking forward to hearing from you.

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              • Re: how is it going moderneli?48 by  moderneli  9 year  4,128
                Hello,
                Things were great.... as of 2 weeks ago. I fell off the metabolic typing wagon for about a month, but now I am getting back on. In addition to the nutritional plan I am taking supplements, and doing quartly reviews of my blood, glucose tolerance levels, etc. all done by the Chinese Medicine practitioners who have prescribed this eating program for me. There was an improvement in my skin for a while, but the problem has since returned and it may do with the wheat I started eating for a while. But my second blood sample showed that my blood has "cleaned up" so much and that in turn has raised my immune system. Like I said, I don't know if it's the actual diet or supplements that are causing the positive changes. Can't say that my energy is any better or that my skin has been ideal. I have not lost weight like I had hoped, but also I am addicted to sugar and have not stopped eating it once a day even though I
                am not supposed to have anything remotely sweet, not even most fruits! Bottom line is, I can't really tell if it doing anything for me. I could very well try the Blood Type Diet or the Zone and feel just as good about it. I know that everyone's needs and likes are different so perhaps you would respond to it and love it, but for me, I'll just do it because the practitioner has asked me to and I want to continue since there is some progress and to be honest I have no other options lined up.

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                • Re: how is it going moderneli?49 by  GMT  9 year  4,216
                  Moderneli

                  Interesting to read your real-live account on Met testing. My wife and I are contemplating to give it a go since she's suffering from IBS and I'm a sucker for anything new... How do you start, though? There's this clinic here in London, charging £165.00 a pop and I'm wondering if a book wouldn't get us started just as well?
                  How did jou get about it and what would you have done differently in hindsight? Sorry for all those questions but I'm really intrigued - I just don't want to invest a lot of lolly if there are more economical ways.
                  Thanks in advance.

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                • Re: how is it going moderneli?50 by  #44666  8 year  4,006
                  Hello
                  Just saw that you where getting the rashes back after you where earing wheat again. I did end my ankylosing spondilities of ten year by eliminating all starch see the starch free diet by carol sinclair. i am also following an MT diet and are getting better and better but you really should try staing off starch too see if you are intolerant to it, lots of reumatoid people have stopped the illnes by it.

                  But the main thing for me was removing the cavitations, and root canals i had. Under one theet we find a cavitation big as my finger tip, and a cavitation are really a pocket of gangrene, and you dont have to convince peoplke that gangrene in the body are very toxix for the imune system, the blood take one minute too pass the cavitation to the foot, there you have your answer for systemic illnes, its a focal infection that can make any illnes dipends of what genetic type you are or witch organ that are weak. But it is important to use a good dentist using the cavitat machine soo your sure too find all pocket of cavitations see http://www.dentalhelp.org

                  Rgds slimmern
                  Ps after removing the cavitations i really improved and now i can eat wathever i want without my AS getting back.. you can eat as much food or suplements you wont but it will not help if you have big pockets of gangrene like me, check it out

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          • GERD51 by  gracey  9 year  4,217
            Did you try raw foods and fermented foods? Fermented foods like kefir can really make a huge difference. there is also some talk about raw milk being a life saver. Don't know much about GERD, but there is a cure for everything. Really, there is. Everyone is different and must make "peace" withtheir ohysical state and spiritual state in different ways. Mediatation is great too. I fould fasting to help me the most a long with Liver flushing. You'll get there.

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          • Re: ***WARNING***52 by  #40770  7 year  3,882
            Rapture, have you tried to get a chiropractic manipulation? Maybe you have a hiatal hernia that can be corrected by manipulation? I may be off base, but is this a possibility?

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    • Re: ***WARNING***53 by  betta  9 year  4,121
      hello, lapis,
      i have read the posts on this page and have read a lot of dr kelley's online book. it is so amazing that it is actually difficult to believe. i have been trying to get well for about 18 years now using supplements and food, and it is very difficult, and sometimes expensive. if it is true that dr kelley's program can help cancer, it probably could help me. i found only one of his supplements online, and it was the most expensive supplement that i have ever seen. but i am still interested. the forum says the last post on this forum was 4 days ago, but i can't find it. i can only find one page, and those posts are from over a month ago. i would like to know if you have found out anything new about dr kelley and his program. i would also like to add that i had put in an order for dr mercola's new book, and after reading all this stuff, i cancelled my order that very night. i would appreciate any new light that you could shed on this for me.
      thanks,
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      • Re: ***WARNING***54 by  grog  9 year  4,092
        hi again betta that last post that was deleted was a spam! the strings you see here are the sum of it ! however Lapis says thats soon he will be in touch with Dr. Kelly we are all waiting to here it from the sources mouth so to speak! Grog

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        • Re: ***WARNING***55 by  betta  9 year  3,954
          hi grog. thanks for the information. it should be interesting to see if dr kelley responds.

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        • Re: ***WARNING***56 by  felixpro  9 year  4,206
          Hello Grog,

          I have read all the messages in this thread and here is my question:
          Isn’t the blood test that Dr. Adamo recommends in his book “Eat right for your type” accomplishing the same task – finding out what your metabolic type is? Can you at least use the results of that blood test in conjunction with the results from the test from Dr. Kelly’s book?
          I will appreciate any information on it. My naturopathic doctor recommended ordering Dr. Adamo’s blood type test to find out my blood type and adjust the diet accordingly but now I am puzzled on how accurate that test is.
          I am trying to heal myself from psoriatic arthritis for more then 20 years now and I think I’ve tried a lot. I was a vegetarian for a couple of years – no improvement, I was fasting up to 30 days water fast – almost all the problems go away (psoriasis disappears completely) but then everything gradually comes back.. I went to Dr. Franco clinic in Riverside, CA and did the treatment with antibiotics for a 1 ½ year – no noticeable improvement.
          I am considering oxygen therapies now but I was concerned about some claims that oxygen can accelerate aging and so on. So I did some research and found an article (link is attached) on Dr. Mercola’s web site by William Wolcott about Oxidative Therapies where he is referring to Metabolic Typing as well. I searched CureZone and found this thread and now I am really puzzled on what do I need to do:

          1. How do I learn about my metabolic type – Dr. Adamo’s blood test, Dr. Kelly test, William Wolcott recommendations, Ayurveda Dosha Test, all of the above or maybe there is somebody who knows it all and can tell me?
          2. Do you think that knowing my Metabolic Type will help me to decide if I even need to try oxygen therapies?

          Wow, I think I drifted far away from my original question but these are the things I am trying to clear in my mind right now.

          Thank you.

          http://www.mercola.com/2003/mar/22/oxidative_therapies.htm

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    • Re: ***WARNING***57 by  DrKirk  9 year  4,330
      There is LOTS of truth to what you read in this thread. I've been studying nutrition for 25 years and have learned a few things along the way. For instance, MOST (99%) of all nutritional supplements can cause more problems than they can fix. The best supplements are those of a "Whole-Food" nature, i.e., those made by a company called Standard Process. They have been around for 70 years!

      Also, most people do not realize that the VAST MAJORITY of "Vitamin C" that is available as a supplement is only ascorbic acid which is only part of the real Vitamin C complex as found in nature. Never will one find an ascorbic acid tree!
      In fact, ascorbic acid is doses as low as 500 mg./day cause mutations with DNA! Also, the body (in an attempt to duplicate real vitamin C as found in nature) will pull other nutrients from the tissues of the body to combine with the ascorbic acid and in doing so can damage the tissues. For instance, the body will pull copper out of the tissues (arteries) which weaken them and make one MORE likely to have a stroke. Furthermore, it has been found that cancer cells thrive on 2 things: #1 glucose and #2 ascorbic acid!

      The same principle holds true for Vitamin E. However, it that case "tocopherols" are touted as being Vitamin E. In fact, they are only part of the real vitamin E complex as found in nature. Tocopherols will pull selenium out of the tissues predisposing one to cancer.

      Calling ascorbic acid vitamin C or tocopherols vitamin E is like calling an egg shell an egg.

      Study it for yourself. Search the web for the following:

      Dr. Royal Lee
      Dr. Royal Rife
      Standard Process
      Dr. Weston Price


      Please note that I am not attempting to diagnose or treat any symptoms or disease, but rather share my thoughts on real nutrition and encourage you to study these things for yourself. After reading all the posts in this thread I thought this information wuld be helpful as well.

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    • Re: WARNING the story so far...58 by  #17682  9 year  4,332
      Lapis,

      Dr Kelley would be an interesting man to speak with. Do you have an update on his telephone number? or Maybe an email address?

      From the information pasted into your email from Kelley's recent book it seems that :

      He may not have got on with his assistant due to a disagreement between them about the impact of Watson's theory of cellular oxidation. This caused a split, which Kelley claims was due to infiltration by the establishment.

      The matter may have been inflamed because Susie Kelley is now Mrs Suzie Kelley Wolcott. Kelley claims that she was part of the infiltration. The establishment have used women before to disrupt the work of doctors and scientists who get too close to a truth.

      Kelley claims that the present form of Metabolic typing has been altered to make it less effective. I would be interested to know in what way it is 'less effective'? Is he referring to the alleged cellular oxidation mechanism?

      It also seems we have three forms on Metabolic Typing on the market at the moment: Kelley's, Wolcott's and Krystal's versions.

      Kelley is spouting some religious information in his work which I feel detracts from his credibility - if it is him that wrote it at all...

      Any thoughts?

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      • Re: WARNING the story so far...59 by  painfreelife  72 days  222
        Dr. Kelley was a deeply spiritual man, and it was reflected in this work and life. He believed the body was designed to heal with proper stimulation and had the belief our body was designed perfectly to heal. Too bad most doctors do not have the same distraction.

        His current metabolic typing is the same as it was, if done by the professionals trained by him, which there are more than a few, and to whom we refer people who need this type of care.

        Most people would benefit from metabolic typing.

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    • Re: WARNING the story so far...60 by  #17682  9 year  4,261
      Lapis,

      Dr Kelley would be an interesting man to speak with. Do you have an update on his telephone number? or Maybe an email address?

      From the information pasted into your email from Kelley's recent book it seems that :

      He may not have got on with his assistant due to a disagreement between them about the impact of Watson's theory of cellular oxidation. This caused a split, which Kelley claims was due to infiltration by the establishment.

      The matter may have been inflamed because Susie Kelley is now Mrs Suzie Kelley Wolcott. Kelley claims that she was part of the infiltration. The establishment have used women before to disrupt the work of doctors and scientists who get too close to a truth.

      Kelley claims that the present form of Metabolic typing has been altered to make it less effective. I would be interested to know in what way it is 'less effective'? Is he referring to the alleged cellular oxidation mechanism?

      It also seems we have three forms on Metabolic Typing on the market at the moment: Kelley's, Wolcott's and Krystal's versions.

      Kelley is spouting some religious information in his work which I feel detracts from his credibility - if it is him that wrote it at all...

      Any thoughts?

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    • Re: ***WARNING***61 by  maranatha  9 year  4,247
      I am in need of some information on how to reach Dr. Kelly. My daughter and I are severely health challenged. We have spent $$$$ between ND's, self-help , lab tsts etc. to no avail. I have read Wolcott's book and became hopeful that Metabolic typing would finally be the answer to our problems. I have been in contact with a Met Typing practitioner and do not have a good feeling about the costs involved and the hidden costs that I am finding out. Can you e-mail me privately about how to get in touch with Dr. Kelly. We are not a rich family but we can't go on like this.

      Most appreciative

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      • Re: ***WARNING***62 by  Grog  9 year  4,263
        Marantha dear! You might be able to help your self quite a bit hear at Curezone! Have you read through any of the other forums !
        Are you a first time poster!

        Tell me more about what your health issues are and maybe I can direct you in the right direction! Grog

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        • Re: ***WARNING***63 by  maranatha  9 year  4,491
          Grog: At first I wanted to type "Sir Grog!" but don't know if you are M or F. In any case, thanks for the friendly reception. Okay, fasten your seat belt. I have heavy metals poisoning, extreme bloating after eating certain foods, can't lose weight and have put on quite a bit after babies 3 & 4. I also was gestational diabetic with # 2 & # 3. Candida in blood, leaky gut...etc.etc.etc.
          Daughter , 9 yrs., has enlarged goiter, of course all dr. (both ND/MD) either say don't worry about it, put her on Atkins or I am being over-protective. She has put on an EXTREME amount of weight and has precocious puberty. Personally, I think she is insuline intolerant; she also bloats after eating. Both of us are acidic and A+ type blood.

          I use an infar red sauna 4-5 times a week, try to rebound exercise, hardly ever eat processed food, grind our own grain, raise our own vegetables, stay away from milk (nasty things are in store bought milk) and take supplements etc.etc.

          Both of us are sick and tired of being sick and tired. I became intrigued after reading Wolcott's book and have been in contact with a Met/Typ person...the cost is astronomical and they don't tell you about the supplies you need. Just for me it comes close to $900.00 but I am desperate to help my daughter.

          There you have it.......I have been through it all, tapping, typing, juicing, etc., and probably know more than most of the "professionals" I have come in contact with.

          Yes, I am a first time poster...a rather long-winded one. Ha! Ha!

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          • Re: ***WARNING***64 by  Grog  9 year  4,364
            Yes I think typing has its merits!But I think the wolcotts clinic and all that is a scam!
            However i do believe you shopuld post at some of the other forums!
            I think that the problems you and your daughter face are more than just typing is goin to take care of
            There are forums here that discuss toxic issues a Candida Forum and the cureal of cureall the Liver/gallbladder flush! check through the menu at the Home page and check out the differant "ASK" forums ant post there! Have you Amalgam fillings? What are your toxic with!
            Also I would say that youy have a congested liver and prbably gallstone ! But I would "ask Andreas"at his forum he is the one to talk to! But it May take lil while to for him to get to you ,hes a real busy guy! But hes the best! I would check the ;Incurable's program! At 'Dr Schulz Forum! Then consider the large posibilty of parasites! Check out " Hulda Clark s " fforum for that! Read read read check all the Health Forums out and see what fits! Sir Grog at you service! lol!

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            • Re: ***WARNING***65 by  maranatha  9 year  4,379
              Sir Grog!

              I think that you have been "typed" with this name. Thanks for the referrals to the other lists.
              Both my daughter and I have done a liver flush! She was quite the trooper. I did Hulda's and she did a different one. I had my Amalgams removed about 4 years ago and she only has composite in her mouth. Also, have de-wormed several times; the whole family.

              Toxic: Arsenic, cadmium, tin, aluminum, mercury, nickle. The far-infar red sauna seems to be helping with that.

              I am going to check out the other forums right now.

              Thanks so much!

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              • Re: ***WARNING***66 by  Grog  9 year  4,140
                Boy thats a lot of toxins! How if I may ask did you aquire all of them! Also I would not depend on a one time parasite flush to reall y be sure they are all gone! For some it takes years to eliminate all the parasites that can infect you! I would look into the zapper type devices ! Tape worm can hide in your body in the form of larvi or eggs etc and not reached by conventional parisite cleanses! It sounds like you have really been through the gamnmet with the things you've done ! But keep it up and good luck in your quest my friend! Sir Grog

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          • Re: ***WARNING***67 by  wolfiebear  9 year  4,257
            totally new here...first 2-3 messages I have read.

            I have heavy metal toxicity.
            I had all my Amalgams out 13 years ago.
            Been searching for a long time....nearly died last year and the beginning of this one...

            What has totally saved my life and is bringing me back to the world of the living is following a protocol by Andrew Cutler from his book Amalgam ILLNESS. This is by far the most comprehensive book on the subject to date.

            Sounds like you definitely need to address your mercury and other metal toxicity. This is THE source to use.

            The site where you can get the book is :
            noamalgam.com

            Also there is a good forum frequented by Cutler where they discuss Autism/Mercury.
            http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/

            ~Inga

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