I've been a Celiac Disease sufferer for almost a year, it took me a couple of months to realize about my problem. Around 8 months ago, I started a supplements protocol in attempting to heal my condition. After many errors and pitfalls, my successfull protocol is as follows:
1) Change of my eating habits (no gluten, lactose, grains, spicy food, sugars or carbohydrates, no food rich in iron and low fiber intake)
2)Desparasitation program for four months. I put special enphasis on this part and after this period of time my symptomps improved 50%
3)Anti-Candida Program based on diverse antifungals, antiparasitic (Caprylic acid, coconut oil, a blend of around 15 herbs, colloidal silver and Enzymes products with very high content of Cellulase and Hemicellulase). I tryed only one type of product at the same time no longer than 1 1/2 month because candida might develop resistance to the same antifungal element. This process took me the whole 8 months.
4)Multi-Supplements program targeted to heal the lining or intestinal mucosa such as high dosis of Glutamine, N-Acetyl D Glucosamine, Glucosamine, Glucomannan, vitamin K. I also added the whole range of vitamins and minerals.
5)Program for liver cleanse with different herbs: Alfalfa, Ginger, Dandelion, Licorice, pectin concentrate, apple juice, etc, etc.
6)Colon and Bowel Cleanse. It is noteworthy to tell that I attempted this step at the begining of my program with very dramatic results. Everytime I took fiber my symptoms got worse many times , but once my intestine was in shape to tolerate fiber I attempted the colon cleanse very succesfully with Psyllium seed husks, Bentonite clay, Ginger, Peppermint and licorice all in powder presentation. It is very important to add Ginger to the blend because is very soothing to the intestine and makes the fiber less abrasive.
7)Finally Kefir.
I was very reluctant to kefir because of my lactose intolerance as well, but once I got on it, my symptoms started to improve dramatically. I consider that my celiac symptoms improved 80% with the steps 1 thru 6 but after the kefir alone my symptoms improved 95%. Currently I do not have any intolerance to gluten, sugar, carbohydrates or lactose. At the beginning I was about to quit on Kefir because the milk I used to prepare the kefir was upseting my intestine (despite it is said that kefir strains completely digest lactose in Milk), but that changed after using free-lactose milk. Actually,What Ironic!! Cheap kefir really could do what expensive Friendly Bacteria Supplements could not (including all types of lactic bacterias and soil based bacterias).
Celiac disease cannot be cured. That's why they're doing research in the first place. All these sites which claim it can be cured through ways similar to your own are hoaxes. All the people who claim to have cured celiac have not--but merely do not have symptoms anymore. NO SYMPTOMS DOES NOT MEAN NO CELIAC and if you continue to eat gluten I guarantee you you will get a few of the following: cancer, type 1 diabetes, lupus, osteoporosis, malnutrition, etc. and will decrease your lifespan by at least twenty years. DON'T EAT GLUTEN--IT'S NOT WORTH IT!
First, I agree pretty much on what you say about the carbs. I have reached the same conclusion after reading tens and tens of research documents that point out that insulin is the real cause of many cancers, diabetes, chronic degenerative diseases and even heart related diseases. The blame is not on the cholesterol, fat and meat as has been officially accepted by the medicine all this time, since they only help to worsen such diseases but they are not as harmful as insulin. Unfortunately there is no other food able to promote high insulin levels in such a way as carbs and sugar do, you are right, I should have encouraged the people to quit what we consider a normal diet. Carbs are not fundamental to the diet, they are immune system inhibitors, mucus forming food and they cause Celiac and IBS because they harm your intestine lining gradually.
Through my diet, I have demonstrated that carbs are not fundamental, I have been living without them, at least recently, without feeling lack of energy, however because I am a weak human and because I wanted to test my resistance to carbs and sugars thus verifying my level of healing and demonstrate that Celiac’s can be cured, eventually I have turned back to a high carbs diet. I have done three tests in order to verify my resistance to carbs and sugars during the last three months (1 test/month). My test consists on eating as much garbage as I can during a whole week such as pizzas, donnas, nachos, coke, sodas, cakes and even I have added some extremely dangerous food such as MacDonald’s burgers of course with my extra load of carcinogens (my fries). Thus far, I have not experienced any symptom such as intolerance, bloating, , inflammation, gases, etc during the three tests periods. For me this is enough to conclude that I no longer have Celiac. Despite this, I am aware that if I eat carbs and sugars on daily basis as I used to do years before, I will have to face with Celiac’s again. I do not encourage anyone to do the same, just do it for testing reasons but not as a custom.
Under my point of view, one of the biggest official lies of the Science is the FDA nutritional pyramid, look at the bottom of it!!!, it encourages you to eat as much carbs as you can. Sometimes, I think that the public health regulatory institutions are not only bound to financing interests of powerful groups but also bound to overpopulation concerns. Look at the people, everybody wants to have two or three child without understanding the critical effects on the planet that we are all experiencing now, we do not have even the slightest idea of what is awaiting us in the short time if we continue to reproduce one each other as bacteria do. Can you see?, something has to regulate us.
Second, honestly, I do not share your point of view that Celiac cannot be cured. As Carl Sagan said many times; the worst weakness of the human being is to believe what we need to believe and I would add to this “and what others make us believe”. As far as I understand, according to our science, officially there in no cure for anything, no cure for any cancer, no cure for asthma, allergies, CFS, arthritis, etc. How we call ourselves modern people, what a pity!!!, what a constrained and primitive world we live in, after the bunch of research accumulated, looks like we do not understand a shit of our body. If you just believe or follow what is officially accepted by the science then you will only get official results, that is, no cure for anything. I will never trust the drug industry and will never trust the science entirely as long as money exists in this planet. Research, placebos, experiment results can be polarized. I can give you a quick sample of this, for example caffeine. During the last years, researchers found that caffeine helps our body to use the insulin better, it decreases insulin resistance according to them. Another wave of researchers, currently have found exactly the opposite, they claim: caffeine increases insulin resistance (make your insulin less efficient in your body and consequently you gotta use more for the same effect). How could this be, different groups for the same target conclude opposite results? Most likely the results of the experiments depend on who provides the money to support them (the coffee industry or non-coffee industry?). You can reach different perceptions from the same results and I will not provide my point of view on this dilemma because this is out of the scope of my intention. My perception is that the ignorance of the people is the best business for the powerful ones in this planet. If they make you believe that no disease is curable, then most likely we will tend to consume drugs and medicines along the existence of our lives and we’ll be willing to pay stratospheric amounts of money for hospital assistance.
My idea of health and cure is to do everything necessary to bring back your body into normal functions and balance, let your body by itself be the healer and just help it externally to do so. This is exactly what I attempted to address with my body because officially there is no cure accepted for my complaint. If all of your organs are OK, then your body has the intelligence by itself to do whatever is necessary (what we and our science do no understand yet) to maintain you healthy. Actually, I developed 26 symptoms through 4 diseases that include Celiac, IBS, CFS and Leaky Gut Syndrome and I did all the lab tests to conclude so. The most difficult symptoms to overcome were that of the Celiac’s disease, fatigue and my joint pains. Wish you could understand my frustration going through, as you said, all the hoaxes of single products claiming to heal all of my diseases. It wasn’t until I mixed several supplements, herbs, kefir and a very strict diet that I could overcome my symptoms. Thus far, I no longer have any of the 26 symptoms.
I do not sell anything and I won’t attempt to do so, even I do my best to depositioning some miracle supplements that abuse of people’s ignorance.
I agree with you in the sense that the diseases are inherent in your organism, they remain slept and they manifest when they awake. For example, I had asthma since my childhood, officially there is no cure for asthma, however, I visited a homeopathic doctor when I was 18, followed a year of treatment and my symptoms disappear during 8 years. However, I made several mistakes, started up to eat too much fast food (at least I blame this), eventually my asthma came back again.
For example, if you consider that antibiotics can eliminate bronchitis symptoms, then it does not mean that antibiotics do not cure bronchitis because years later you get bronchitis again. Probably, as you say, my IBS, Celiac, CFS and LGS are just in a dormant state, but my healing status is by far much better than the science official claims in the sense that you must remain taking medicine to mask such symptoms.
No offense, but you're clueless about this. What are your sources? This is a permanent genetic intolerance to gluten in which gluten ingestion triggers a chemical reaction in the t-cells (immune system cells) causing the t-cells to attack the lining of the intestines. No flushes or medication will change any of this. Here are some proofs of my point:
You can't tell me that you feel that these major celiac groups are all wrong. If you want more links, I can find them...whether you feel it or not, you're hurting yourself. I'm not doing this for fun--I'm trying to save your life. Have an endoscopy done or bloodwork and you'll find your antibodies are going to be high for celiac disease--celiac disease cannot be cured.
I do not pretend to say that all those guys are wrong completely, but remember nothing in this world has the absolute truth including the science, mainly a primitive Science like ours. What I say is that they might be partially wrong and partially OK. The science is rich in such cases. There are too many anecdotes and stories in which at the beginning everybody believes that the interpretation of a discovery or development of a theory is correct because it was firstly postulated or stated by brilliant scientists as those you mention with incredible and extreme accurate research, then someone else, usually a less renowned scientist comes and destroy such truth with a new theory. This is the natural process of the science and I would like to recommend you to leave space for error and mistake for the science always. The research and understanding about our body and CD is still immature. I’ve read that there are around 100,000 chemical reactions in the body daily, they regulate our health and determine what diseases we can develop and I guess that nobody in this planet is able to understand them all, therefore nobody can have the last word about a disease, or do you?, or do you believe that those guys from the links you mention understand all those reactions as to be completely sure that there is no cure?
I guess that your smart friends with extremely accurate research, are just deciphering a small part of the puzzle but they are far from discovering the whole truth, they have discovered the final effects but not the root causes. The complete human genetic code was discovered very recently, consequently, and this is a fact, it is not well understood the relationship between genes and the members of our immune system, therefore, at this point, we cannot say that autoimmune disorders cannot be reversed or cured because you were born with an autoimmune disease or because it is written in your genetic code.
What I do agree with you is that you cannot have zero CD symptoms as long as you eat a high carb diet.
What I do not agree with you is that regardless of what you do (even maintaining a gluten-free diet) you will be sick with the symptoms of Celiac Disease forever or any progressive autoimmune disease. This is, your T-cells going crazy for the rest of your life even with a gluten free diet. Is this what you want to say with the links and the information you have?
Yes I understand a few things about the immune system and what autoimmune means, I’ve read a couple of good books about it because of my asthma and the series of diseases I mentioned. And what I understand is that you will have a strong and balanced immune system if it knows the good and bad things (a balance). Your immune system is like boxing man, if he does not do training or does not have the proper environment and conditions (nutrition, oxygen and coordination) he will loose the battle against opponents (pathogens), that is, in order to have a balanced and strong immune system it needs to fight opponents regularly (practice and training) and have the proper environment. Your immune system goes mad (autoimmune) and weak if there are too many bad things, for example excess of pathogens, pollutants, stress, virus, free radicals, etc under the improper conditions. Autoimmune means that your immune system gets confused, there is no good communication among the immune system units, goes crazy and attacks many things (tissue, organs, intestine lining, etc) and even itself because it thinks that everything is a pathogen (gluten, dust, undigested particles, or more accurately the gliadin in CD, etc). In immunology this is known as lack of immune signaling.
If we compare CD with the bronchitis I mentioned before on one side, and the virus that produces bronchitis with gluten, that is, the gluten is the pathogen. What I am telling you is that it is possible to cure bronchitis if you kill the pathogen (the virus). Next time your body gets in touch with that virus your immune system will now how to kill it, but if you get in touch too much with that virus or the pathogen eventually your immune system will succumb against it and you will get sick again. Same case with gluten (the pathogen), you get in touch with it every day three times a day, then you will get sick. Autoimmune diseases are developed, this is what almost any immunology literature accepts as true and they can be developed during the fetus formation due to the mother’s dietary factors or others. Autoimmune disorders can be reversed if you achieve to normalize the communication among the immune units (immune signaling). I recommend you to read a little about the relationship between glycobiology and immunology and the betaglucans theory. Perhaps, with this information in your mind, you might change your perception.
Note: Glyconutrients might trigger CD symptoms because they are supposed to increment T-killer cells activity (which is not desirable in CD patients) and intolerance due to xylose content. Also, thus far, most of the betaglucans sources contain dosis of wheat unfortunately.
What I tried to explain, is that:
CD and bronchitis are both about going beyond the immune system thresholds or boundaries. Once you cross the threshold you get sick.
You can reverse the symptoms of a crazy immune system if you provide the proper environment and avoid the pathogens (carbs, gluten or virus), that is, reverse the symptoms of CD and live for the rest of your life without CD symptoms.
Once you become stable and have provided the proper environment, you can live with a low carb diet without having any CD symptom as I currently do with 20 grs of carbs/day and sometimes up to 40 grs (every fifteen days). Thus far this is ok for me but if my condition worsens again I will notify about.
Certainly, I agree with you that my monthly tests (at least in the extreme way I have done it) to verify my resistance to carbs are not recommendable for anyone including myself.
However, as a futuristic guy, I would like to believe that, even though this day might be distant, it is possible to manipulate your immune system and genes in such a way as to avoid gluten reactions completely as that of CD even with a high carbs diet.
I am not a follower nor a believer I just test what sounds logic, it works, I keep on it, it does not, I forget about it.
No matter how many links you have, let’s make a deal, for every link that you provide me telling there is no cure for Celiac Disease, I will provide you five historical anecdotes in the disciplines I know of theories and statements that were initially considered as the whole truth by the scientific community because they were developed by a very renowned scientist but then, time later were proved to be inaccurate and false.
Okay, at this point I don't think I can convince you because you're in denial of the fact that the medical students and experts are more credible than these nuts on the internet who want to sell you a pill that will "negate the effects of gluten" or these sites that claim you can cure a genetic autoimmune system disease if a doctor flushes your liver, rips out your kidneys, breaks your ribs, or does some other crazy thing that does not alter the genetics, which is where celiac disease originates in the first place. Nonetheless, I know that some people do come here and if I can add twenty years to one person's life by typing here for fifteen minutes, then I've accomplished something.
First off, I think it's crazy to call today's Science primitive. Long, long ago, it was the case that the "expert" was often wrong, but back then, everyone was often on even ground--that science was primitive. There were no high-tech labs and machines, no medical school, limited knowledge of the human body and lack of interest to learn more, anyway. I mean, in the Middle Ages, bleeding was thought to be the solution to all health problems.
My "smart friends" do have extremely accurate research...and they are only deciphering a small part of the puzzle...but they're the ones who found out about celiac in the first place--that found out the cause, did studies, have various goals for maybe one day making that pill that will stop the gluten from attacking the lining of the intestine (and have four other ideas that they are researching). At this point, though, the only feasible way to "cure" celiac would be through stem cells--since it's genetic
Now, I have acknowledged that at this point, these medical professionals see no way to cure celiac disease. Tell me how this Liver Flush or whatever is supposed to work. If someone flushed my intestines or anything else, why would that stop the gluten from causing a chemical reaction in the T-cell, why would that reverse something that was in my genes--and why would it do that to you? Maybe it would get rid of your symptoms, but I have a question. Did you have an endoscopy done for diagnosis? Or blood tests? And were they definitely positive? If so, I would love if you would go test again for celiac disease having been on gluten; elevated levels signify celiac disease unless you're on a gluten-free diet when your antibodies go down and you might test negative even though you have CD.
If it was possible to reverse the genetics, why wouldn't these multiple establishments across the US and the world have thought of that? And how would some goof have discovered that this liver flush can reverse the gentics? And once again, how can you erase something from your genetic code by flushing your liver? If that's the case, then couldn't a retarded person just get a brain flush or a scalp wash or something and alter the genetics? To reply to your statement: "...at this point, we cannot say that autoimmune disorders cannot be reversed or cured because you were born with an autoimmune disease or because it is written in your genetic code." well, at this point the only possible way seems to be through stem cell research (whether you favor it or not) but I just don't see how this moronic liver flush can alter your genetics. And if your genetics aren't altered, then you have celiac and it is damaging you whether you feel it or not.
You said: "What I do agree with you is that you cannot have zero CD symptoms as long as you eat a high carb diet." I didn't say that. You can have zero CD symptoms--I have zero CD symptoms because I follow the gluten-free diet in an extremely diligent, borderline paranoid way. I have no symptoms. Most celiacs (unless you have refractory sprue) will not have symptoms if they follow a gluten-free diet and their intestines have healed. The reason you feel symptoms on a high-carb diet is because the carbs you are eating contain wheat, rye, barley, etc. I eat a lot of carbs, but they're in the form of grains such as rice, hence no symptoms.
You said: "What I do not agree with you is that regardless of what you do (even maintaining a gluten-free diet) you will be sick with the symptoms of Celiac Disease forever or any progressive autoimmune disease. This is, your T-cells going crazy for the rest of your life even with a gluten free diet. Is this what you want to say with the links and the information you have?"
I didn't say that at all! If you follow a gluten-free diet you should be healthy. If you do not follow a gluten-free diet, stuides have shown (though you probably won't accept them because they're done by these "primitive scientists") that you are at a GREATLY increased risk of developing intestinal cancers, osteoporosis, type 1 diabetes, lupus, malnutrition, anemia...the list goes on. And you could lose 20 years off your life or more as a result. Your T-cells will not go crazy for the rest of your life. Once the gluten stops being ingested, the T-cells will stop, the villi will grow back, and you will be fine. I am saying that there is no cure--you have to follow a gf diet for life--but if you make this "sacrifice" you will have health, which is more important to me than eating whole wheat bread.
You said: "he will loose the battle against opponents (pathogens), that is, in order to have a balanced and strong immune system it needs to fight opponents regularly (practice and training) and have the proper environment. Your immune system goes mad (autoimmune) and weak if there are too many bad things, for example excess of pathogens, pollutants, stress, virus, free radicals, etc under the improper conditions."
Celiac has nothing to do with pathogens, bacteria, or viruses. And the gliadin will react with the t-cells no matter how long you eat gluten. I do not have celiac disease because I was inhaling too much dust and pollutants. I have celiac disease because I had the gene and because the gene was triggered. It cannot be untriggered and I accept that. I think it's ridiculous to think that if you keep ingesting gluten you'll get used to it. That's like saying someone has the AIDS virus, so why don't you just keep getting more and more of the virus in you and you'll get used to it and cure it...that's ridiculous.
You said: "If we compare CD with the bronchitis I mentioned before on one side, and the virus that produces bronchitis with gluten, that is, the gluten is the pathogen. What I am telling you is that it is possible to cure bronchitis if you kill the pathogen (the virus). Next time your body gets in touch with that virus your immune system will now how to kill it, but if you get in touch too much with that virus or the pathogen eventually your immune system will succumb against it and you will get sick again." Another faulty thing. Celiac is not a virus and gluten is not a virus. Therefore, your body doesn't attack gluten...why would it? It's a protein.
You said: "I am not a follower nor a believer I just test what sounds logic, it works, I keep on it, it does not, I forget about it." But doing that is the most primitive way of "science" (if it can even be called that) altogether! No symptoms doesn't mean that you're not being affected by gluten...have a biopsy or blood work done and it'll test positive.
"No matter how many links you have, let’s make a deal, for every link that you provide me telling there is no cure for Celiac Disease, I will provide you five historical anecdotes in the disciplines I know of theories and statements that were initially considered as the whole truth by the scientific community because they were developed by a very renowned scientist but then, time later were proved to be inaccurate and false."
I provided the links because I consider them to be a more credible source of information than a website called "Curezone.com" where they're trying to claim there's a cure for everything. I'm showing you that all these organizations believe these doctors, I believe these doctors, and I believe that there is a way to make it so that celiacs can eat gluten. I just think that that "way" hasn't come yet. And I bet most of your examples will come from the earlier times (discussed above) when all of science was a guessing game....
Coulter-you are 100% right and have all the facts. Some people are in denial and think they are fine when in reality even if you don't experience symptoms you still do damage. Obviously, the cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, and other complications are not taken seriously in some people because they feel fine..but the fact is known that people who ignore the diet don't live as long and get complications. Cleansing your body is a good thing and may help relieve some symptoms but that's all it does...it does not cure anything.
"Under my point of view, one of the biggest official lies of the Science is the FDA nutritional pyramid, look at the bottom of it!!!, it encourages you to eat as much carbs as you can. Sometimes, I think that the public health regulatory institutions are not only bound to financing interests of powerful groups but also bound to overpopulation concerns. Look at the people, everybody wants to have two or three child without understanding the critical effects on the planet that we are all experiencing now, we do not have even the slightest idea of what is awaiting us in the short time if we continue to reproduce one each other as bacteria do. Can you see?, something has to regulate us."
I have to say that I think you make a very good observation. Also, I would add that with all of the Baby Boomers out there now currently in their 40's and 50's and still working- it is no surprise to me that they increased the retirement age. Eventually the baby boomers will reach the new retirement age, and they'll probably up it again to age 90!- Then they'll "cull the herds" of excess population in some subtle way, so that most of us will die off before we can collect retirement, etc.
After more than 15 years of research I realize that I have some parts of the puzzle.
What I can tell you is that the FDA is just another scientific manipulated organization ruled by money-hunger sick minded people playing to be gods. I am not telling they are godS, I am just telling they think they are gods. They are the same that rule the oil and energy, the ones who decide where the world is going.
Do your own research and find out what does the pyramid at the back of the One-dollar bill means. You will find out that among many other things, it means: I am the eye at the top of the pyramid (the illuminated ones or the big world manipulators) and you bunch of ignorant people are at the bottom of the pyramid and you do not even know it. So the correlation of the FDA Food Pyramid means: I eat at the top of the pyramid (the illuminated or big manipulators) and you bunch of ignorant people eat at the bottom of the pyramid AND YOU DONT EVEN KNOW IT.
THATS ALL. I'M SORRY THIS WORLD IS FULL OF SYMBOLS.
You're not telling me that all these groups, all the brilliant researchers, the USA, and every other country in the world is wrong about this... there is currently no cure, I tell you.
Coulter, I think it may be possible that he found the key to keeping Celiac under remission. It apparantly worked for him. I know that Celiac runs in my mom's side of the family- and we crave alot of the things he just mentioned that he used-- especially yogurt and Kefir.
However, with Celiac, I would err on the side of caution the rest of my life-- and omit Gluten from their diet permanently- even with no more symptoms. It probably is only a matter of time, when the Gluten causes problems again as the body breaks down with age down the road. Even if one does discover how to keep it under control (which I truly believe he has) I feel why flirt with fire (Gluten)?
Grains in general arent the most ideal food for the human body- I think a person may experience almost perfect health if they omit them completely- and live on raw fruits, nuts, seeds, and veggies that are not tampered with by humans.
The problem here is that the original poster is suffering from a basic misunderstanding of the mechanics of the disease. There is no such thing as "remission" in the case of a Celiac. Every time this person ingests gluten, whether they suffer a noticeable physical reaction or not, an immune response is occurring.
Bowel cleansing and all of that is fine, but this person is slowly dying as a result of their misunderstanding. Contrary to what they stated, we *do* know what causes this disease, we *do* know what the reactions are, and we *do* know how to deal with it. That is far different from not knowing what a cure is. (And actually, geneticists do have a cure for it; retranscripting the gene responsible for the disease. Unfortunately, full genetic retranscription of a living multicellular organism is impossible at this point.)
As Coulter suggested, I would recommend this person have full bloodwork done, and have an endoscopic exam. Personally, I have a feeling that the original poster is in for a nasty surprise.
The only way to keep celiac under control is the gluten free diet. There is no cure. So unless he is on the gluten free diet, he may be eliminating symptoms but it will catch up with him in the long run. Cleansing your body and all that stuff may help symptoms and be good for your body but the fact is that's all it does.. It doesn't cure anything.Some people feel fine but have celiac but that means nothing...the gluten does damage to your body symptoms or not. I think the original poster here is missing the facts of celiac.
First of all I want to salute you all! My name is Vlad and I used to post messages on the Candida Forum but after a visit to the doctor I was told that I'm suspected of CD! So for the past few days I was searching the net for all the informations about CD that I can get!
So coming to the point regarding the discussions you guys have here, I want to state my point of view:
1.CD is thought to be hereditary so it has to be something tied to genetical codes that we inherited from our ancestors
2.CD is supposed to be a desease in the view of modern medicine(autoimune desease)
3.The rate of CD has grown in the past years for nobody really knows the reasons for its growth
4.The only known remedy is a GF strict diet
5.Many of the sufferers cannot eat dairy products
After a good thinking I reached the conclusion that CD sufferers must eat in the absolutely same way as the prehistorical people did in the past.....this fact makes me wonder who are the "really" sick ones? us or them? Maybe we are the only unmodified(evolutionary speaking)people that live on Earth, right? So why should we have to be scared if we don't eat milk, grains, and other stuff(mostly junk food!)that in the past were not available for eating anyway? So try for one moment to see the CD(and also the other autoimune related deseases as Chron, Candida, Cronic Fatigue, etc) from this angle!....it's not so scary anymore, right? Maybe we are the healthiest peoples on Earth! Best wishes to you all. Vlad from Bucharest, Romania, 29 years old.
P.S We don't have to eat grains, milk, and other stuff(modern food) to be healthy and live a normal life! Our ancestors hadn't and they didn't die from this! Just think about it from this point of view!
Because everybody has the right to search for an answer dog.
Only people ignorant like you with such a limited thought and constrainted mind is waiting cross armed for a manipulated scientific answer that says that does not exist any cure for any damn existing disease.
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