I was sent their new newsletter this morning and they must believe in urine therapy! To send this to the world shows they must believe in it, thats enough to discredit the whole curezone system, in my opinion. "IF" I was a first time looker at the CUREZONE and seen such trash, I would keep on looking elsewhere. Just like a book that states distilled water is not good, you throw the book away, because the author has no concept of human health. To display extremely wrong subjects in a newsletter, makes the whole newsletter questionable.
To allow one and all subjects on the curezone is one thing, but when they pick out certain ones and display them as must read subjects, it reflects their veiws.
All of CureZone is probably not all cut from the same cloth. And even if they were, they decided to present some articles of interest for a minority (my guess) of their readership. After all, we all like to read stories that support our ideas.
Although some people will see that forum (urine therapy/article) and think less of CureZone, so will others who see some other forum whose theories they disagree with and therefore leave. There's plenty of other forums to find some disagreement with--there are over 80 listed in the Support Forums column alone. If you droppped off or excluded something everytime someone thought it was a discredit to something else, there would be nothing left to read.
Just like you can't judge a book by its cover, you can't always judge a whole by only one part. (..drinking it-Ugh!)
(Ha,Ha) Be glad you only had to voice your complaint, and are not in the position of having let yourself become so desperately ill that you must consider it.
I have learned through experience that how seriously I took something (said) depended on how much I alread knew about it. You wouldn't discredit the whole field of herbs because of a herb(s) you didn't like.
definitions for those who find them usefull:
idiom........words and phrases that do not mean exactly what they say
......................examples: "cut from the same cloth," "judge a book...cover"
.............a peculiar mode of expression
.............the genius, or peculiar cast of a language
.............colloquial speech
.............dialect
.............[from the Greek, "idios" - one's own]
I totally agree with your statement. If it were necessary to have to agree with every mode of natural therapy, then it wouldn't be "alternative medicine" any longer. It's the fact that we are allowed "alternatives" to our pathway to health as oppossed to a prescription without room for debate. I agree that distilled water is not a good substitute for regular drinking water because of its structure and its purpose which is to cleanse.
What makes me stressed about the natural health industry is that everyone is starting to bring a fast food attitude to their approach and forgetting the holistic law that everything is about "homeostasis", all about being in balance and treating the whole not the part. This industry will soon be just like the pharmaceutical companies that address parts only. Well, enough of me for now. :)
Your response must sadden those who have been saved by Urine Therapy, and those who have tried it just as an experiment in alternatives and found renewed vigor.
It is my understanding that this website is provided, free-of-charge, for those who want to share and/or find well-being and support.
CureZone couldn't survive without donations, and those who have sent cash must be content with all that is written here, or they wouldn't have contributed.
Readers have their choice of all therapies and opinions, just as shoppers may choose or refuse brand names or colors.
Even if UT only offered a 10% possibility of health improvement, there are those who are sick enough to appreciate those odds.
I know how I wish I had known about it last November when we lost a young friend who was a prince of a human being.
How far is too far?
Read on MH, and try things that resonate with you. Share the information of what has worked in your life. Ask questions. Support and ask for support. Donate if you can and wish to.
I personally haven't researched the subject, but I did witness and note that James Arthur states that in the use of the Amanita Muscaria mushroom, it's a very important aspect or enhancing of the reingestion of one of the most vital ingredients in this ancient traditional mystery school tool and revealer of the mystery(s). http://www.jamesarthur.net
I'm not saying I would do this, I can't because I'm not a vegetarian. But I have known of people who have benefitted greatly. My aunts best friend took her husband to Switzerland to a very exclusive clinic where they injected him with sheep's urine when he had what was diagnosed to be incurable cancer. The doctors in the states gave him 3 months. He lived another 10 relatively healthy years from the urine injections. (he was already in his 70's when diagnosed). Tell his wife she went too far!
Urine is used in many medications.
What do you think is in the IV at the well reknowned Burzynski Cancer Institute???
You can either pay thousands of dollars to have it injected into you or via an IV, that you may or may not even know about..........or mix it with some apple juice and drink it for free!!
I definitely am not on UT, but I do understand it's healing effects in many parts of the world especially for cancer.
Just keep reading and do so with an open mind.
CHICKEN SOUP FROM YOUR BELLY.............LOL!
It's definitely not for everyone, but it's out there and from what i read and hear, IT WORKS!! and if I were diagnosed with cancer, would I try it??? I just might!!!
I also have a friend that is a dr. in puerto vallarta and he swears by it. he is administering it to his mother in law to stop the progression of her alzheimer's and has been successful. those of his patients that are open to it, use it, especially for cancer and aids. he has had great success with them. I've been to his clinic and they can't all be lieing!
In fact he recommended it to me 15 years ago. I got as far as brining the glass to my lips, seeing the steam from the urine, then I up-chucked. I've since learned you can cool it off in the fridge and mix it with juice........but it was too late for me back then. But from what i've read you should be a vegetarian to practice this, which I am not.
To inject anything directly into the skin forces the body to respond, sheep urine has to be an all time new low. The use of chemo by the tons sold as cold medicines over the counter also work, or do they? Urine, the same as many things other than the live viruses/bacteria in a product such as urine are all dead, none thinking substances, they in them selves have zero ability to aid health, save lives ro do anything but, poison the subject. Mercury, Lead and Silver do a great job of poisoning the human body and all have been hailed as the cure-4-all, arsenic has the greater use in history for both man and animal.
So do we consume arsenic, mercury, urine, silver, lead, chemo, morphine in a method that the human body is forced to rescue it's self or be killed? Is there such a thing as being agressive against God's Natural Laws for living? The only sure thing is that Nature will seek to remove "all" creatures that break God's permanent laws.
Urine (self or animal) is just 1 of thousands of methods used past and present to counter what a person has been eating at the dinner table. This forum seeks to suggest let your food be your medicine, human food being all the sweet fruits given freely from the earth for humans. All other foods have a price to pay.
The human body can only use live, fresh, nutritional things to repair and maintain itself. Waste products are counterproductive to life as far as the human is concerned. Of course, vultures eat dead meat, and bacteria decomposing it as well. But to use a waste product to gain good health is ABSURD! lol The body has already discarded it saying it doesn't need it, so why would someone want to put it back in?! lol
I understand that it seems so obvious to you and me, but the supporters of UT think it is a good thing.
When I first came to CZ I was shocked to see that forum. I have never visited it, and I don't intend to. I try my best to ignore it. I was offended by it as well, but there are so many forums on CZ, there's bound to one or more than someone would completely be turned off by. Maybe they will see the natural logic of the fact that you should never put waste in your system, but it's a free forum/site/world, so I just let it go. ;) btw, there's is no animal in the world who consumes his own waste; that should give them a clue as to how bad that is.
"unforutnately, i have seen (and owned) MANY a dog and cat that eat their own pooh and vomit). disgusting, but true."
Actually a dog eats his vomit, then vomits it back up. Can you think of any others?? Didn't think so. It is not consumable. Even animals who will eat ANYTHING such as pigs and goats will not eat their own waste. It a natural phenomena. I think UT is a waste of time, energy, and it is not beneficial to a organism that thrives on live, frest nutrients for survival. But it is their decision and choice to do that! lol
We, as humans in a civilized society that has gone wrong when it comes to treating the body with most optimum of options, need to look to nature sometimes to see if what we a doing to our bodies is natural b/c only then can we live in excellent health, vitality, and longevity. We are not very different from our furry friends and our cattle, and the wild animals. They eat the way nature INTENDED for them to eat b/c they don't have the intelligence to do otherwise like we do. We eat processed and devitalized food(and still call it food, lol), and we decide that drinking our own urine will make us better. Not so. We must come back to nature in regards to food. Otherwise, as many of us are doing now, we will die prematurely.
"Actually a dog eats his vomit, then vomits it back up. Can you think of any others?? Didn't think so. It is not consumable."
yes. i CAN think of others. sorry, i guess we'll just have to disagree on the animal eating waste issue. i have seen dogs and cats eat vomit and crap (meaning feces, not garbage) and NOT vomit afterwards. i have seen this often. i guess it's one of those things you have to see to believe...though i don't think it's hard to believe at all. but maybe you haven't been around dogs or cats much. every dog owner that i have ever known can attest to this fact.
I have owned many dogs and cats from childhood to adulthood. Dogs will revomit their vomit. Cats never eat their own or another animals waste. Cats barely eat what you give them anyway b/c they are so finicky and arrogant! lol
The bottom line is a waste product is a waste product; it is no longer needed by the body. Hmmm, from this viewpoint it seems that the UT supporters could soon start eating their own snot. Hey, there's earwax, too! Why not? It's all waste and it's ridiculous to even consider consuming any of those things(including urine)! lol
No need to get all snide on me :) Again, I don't do UT, never have...probably never will. My only point is that I have seen dogs eat crap and vomit without throwing it up on more than one or two occasions. Honestly. Though, I don't think UT supporters would agree with your snot-eating analogy.
Madame,
Not wanting to appear presumptuous,because the lady AJ can speak for herself. But I think she was trying to convey that for the animals to eat thier own waste was not common or normal. I am inclined to agree with her,for the following reasons. All of the dogs that I have seen eat thier own waste were poorly malnurished and under fed. Indicating that they had not been properly cared for. Not being a cat person I have not seen this happen with cats.
Having owned several dogs in my life,I have noticed that they would on ocasions go outside and eat grass or weeds. I believe they understood that something was not right with thier system,they did it instintively. Therefore, I personally do not think it is normal or common in nature for animals to eat thier own waste.
I will not address the issue of UT at this time, except to say that in my opinion I think it is wrong. Of course everyone knows that opinions are like elbows everyone has one or two.
Sincerely I C L
Dogs eat their own dried fecal waste, especially when their foods lack minerals and other nutrients. They instinctively know that their feces is actually rich in nutrients.
Personally, I wouldn't eat it....
But Urine Therapy.... Why not? If you have a clean diet, then why not? Can it ever be proven that it's bad for you?
I noticed the minute "they" thought I was on my way to Florida "they" took the opportunity to push the urine drinking. "They" can drink what ever "they" want, but "they" know "they" have no place here and that is why "they" have a forum "they" can consort with those like them selves. "If" "they" would have kept to them selves on their forum, I would not have had the opportunities over and over to comment and I am here to comment and my comments are for entertainment purposes only because the governments know some are not capable of self-health experimentation and should seek only medical aid and I agree. So here we just suggest and chat about natural and somewhat natural things, but have our limits when a subject that is not welcome refuses to seek their entertainment elsewhere.