Conspiracy or Politics Debate forum...operative word being 'DEBATE'.
Open discussion really. Yes, all sorts are attracted to Debate Forums .
Many diverse opinions, notions, ideas, beliefs. A lot of the information is just being passed on.
Just for the record it was within the wherewithal of anyone to ignore any points raised or to challenge them.
If the challenge wasn't accepted then that would reflect on the challenged poster.
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However as anyone knows there is and was one serious agitator who interloped his way into the Conspiracy forum this last year and denounced practically every poster who 'hurt' anyones' feelings.
'Rudenski', 'Peace Patriot' and an assortment of number monikers, did all he could to cloak himself in righteousness while attacking any poster who sought to shine a light on the mendacious ways of the powers that be.
Mention Zionists and he hurls the inevitable 'Anti-Semite'
Mention Jesuits and he screams 'Anti-Catholic'
Mention the problems of immigration....'Racist'
Basically he set out to stifle debate. He shilled and puled and agitated until he got his way.
He cries out as he slaps you.
I get my feelings hurt every single day of the week out there in the world...if I don't agree with certain posters, it doesn't mean I have been corrupted by their, in my opinion, 'misguided' views..
As ever, the interlopers like Rudenski want to legislate for you because they always know better.
He also employs the old Soviet tactic of questioning anybody's sanity if they hold an opinion that he disagrees with.
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Is it a coincidence that the very essence of curezone has been turned in on itself?
The free and open exchange of ideas. You may say it's about health - indeed, but it is all connected. The reason our collective health is in peril is because of the corrupt institutions that have had dominion over us for so long.
Regardless of the official excuse for closing the debate forums, the evidence suggests that the Pharisee has won the day.
He single handedly has done a better job of censoring curezone than any government agent could ever have managed legally.
Unless you followed rudys posting you would not have noticed much of a problem, this whole thing has been choreographed by rudy and his supporters, their intentions where expressed earlier in this forum, they know who they are, and now so do we!
Put simply Propolis this site was infiltrated by Temporal Coadjutors out to discredit, confuse, discourage, ban users and remove the Conspiracy forum. Why? TRUTH that hurts but hits the spot right on. Who does this serve? THE ORDER! Who is laughing now? THE ORDER! When someone constantly attacks everything truthsayers are saying with multiples of labels and nonsense you can tell who the Temporal Coadjutors are. Again watch the for the demise of the Alternative Health areas which has started with all the addition of these Debate Forums . THE ORDER is infiltrating this site to get rid of it as its too crippling to the Medical Mafia Rockefella run cliques. You can see this happening if your eyes aren't blinkered. What they do is subclinically break the board apart by attacking the truth and attacking the major contributors. Why? Well apart from the obvious theres not many contributors of worth or contributors at all really bar a few. So THE ORDER knows if they annoy the contributors enough they will leave and the site will become almost worthless regardless how many people log on. These people aren't stupid when it comes to destroying truthsayers and their sites. These people are professional and paid to do these disinformation, agitation, friction, confusion techniques.
You might be right about everything you say about me. I am willing to take it. Take me and don't kill my children. I really don't mind. I can take it. Because I took it when the posters started saying America was evil and that it should be nuked. America is evil and maybe it should be nuked but I have children I wanted to protect from nuclear anihilation. If someone put a big X on your house, wherever you might be, you might do the same?
The cowardly way many of your peers hide behind doublespeak words for racial hatred influenced me for a while but when push came to shove, some of your peers came right out and said they wanted racial purity. I guess I am not racially pure and my children who are Latin/Anglo and Catholic/Protestant are certainly not racially pure. It did not offend me but those concentration camps used by a dictator advocated by some of your peer's sources who opposed immigration opened my eyes about what the whole Jesuit/Catholic angle was all about. There your buddies go threatening my children again.
My Jewish friends, who were to be round up and killed for being Jewish and the wholesale destruction of Israel advocated by some of the posters in the debate forum also turned my stomach. If I hear your peers say Zionist and then say they want Israel nuked, that does not equate to killing Zionists but rather Jews and Palestinians who live in the same piece of Real Estate as the Zionist or can we call it Anti-Semitism? Not Anti-Zionism because Zionism= Zionist; Israel= Jews/Moslims= Semites.
Again, did you police your own?
When I followed Brother Eric's link I found a Neo Nazi who called for racial purity. I think that one put me over the edge. I have watched for years as posters have been abused and heckled in your club of hate and you did not police your own again. If you had done so, I never would have come here to defend my position. And I did not start this dicussion. Two separate new posters came here complaining about the racism and White Supremists that were posting in the Conspiracy & Politics Debate Forums . Blame them first...or better yet...blame yourself first and then you can blame me.
It was not my decision to eliminate the politics and debate forums. It is Spirit's. If he made a decision based on my opinion alone then I would hope he would restore the Debate Forums & I will leave CureZone to you and your White Supremist buddies. If I am the problem and not you and your peers, who allowed the open hostility toward whole races of people, then I should be banned from CureZone. It would take nothing more than one click of a Moderator's hand to send me away forever. I am willing to stay exiled if even one moderator believes I should be banned. It is plain and simple. If any one moderator believes I should be banned, click the button and let's end it right here and now. Or if none of you or the Webmaster chooses to ban me then I pray you will let me start over and go back to being a positive influence in CureZone again. Lobby your Moderators and build a consensus of even one moderator to ban me and I am gone. I will take down my messages and leave CureZone. It is that simple Propolis.
I actually admire you for your search for truth and I have since the first post I ever read of yours. But I don't believe you found the truth but rather, I believe you found another set of lies but that is my opinion.
It is up to you now. If I am banned, I will go on with my search for truth and you can go on with yours. In either case, I hope the best for you and those you care about and I hope you would do the same for me. Mostly children suffer in wars when their daddys go around killing people. Give my children a break. And if you some day have children, maybe I will give your children a break as well. I did not start that stupid war in Iraq and I know my nation is wrong but please, for the children's sake, quit the nation bashing and race bashing. It needs to end.
* THE SOCIETY OF JESUS, VATICAN, OPUS DEI & SOVEREIGN MILITARY OF MALTA rule the world with THEIR Order of Illuminati.
* The Holocaust death figures are completely false as found by many highly intelligent folk and professors not just conspiracy researchers. The facts that more Russians, Christians, Gypsies, Handicapped died in camps is forgotten.
* That hiv is a complete CHARADE from start to finish. Remember alternative health practitioners make a killing from this just like the Rockefella run Medical Cartel.
TRUTH HURTS BOTH THE LIE CREATORS, ITS BUSINESS FOLLOWING AND OF COURSE THE SHEEP WHO JUST FOLLOW WHAT THEIR TOLD BARRRR BARRRR.
This idiocy of downplaying the severity of the holocaust is a really serious matter, one which American citizens may themselves face, under martial law soon, after we SMASH Syria and suffer tremendous counter/parallel attacks as God's Word promises is going to happen per the Bible.
My grandfather was in WWII, and whether you want to count the number at 2 million, 6 million, 12 million, or 48 million, it really matters not so much as the fact that it HAPPENED, and it was a HOLOCAUST. That's the real TRUTH, and that the SAME is planned for the American people soon who resist the full enforcement of a NEW WORLD ORDER that Bush, Clintonistias, The New Pope are all OPENLY and LOUDLY calling for the FINAL SOLUTION for all the WORLD's PROBLEMS ;)
My grandfather was a gunner on a tank and on the front line invasion force for the allies INTO NAZI OCCUPIED GERMANY during WWII. He shot and KILLED DEAD a lot of Germans. I got a kick out of that story when sharing it with the Germans who happened to have the wonderful experience of being my roommate at the Hostel there in Downtown Auckland ;))))
As a young boy, I will never forget the confusion and shock I would get when my grandfather would awake hands flailing and face squirmished, clearly disturbed from a hellish nightmare... ONE in WHICH HE LIVED.
THE HOLOCAUST was REAL. It was SO REAL that when the tanks would drive forward on their tracks and squeam about and SQUISH from all the dead bodies of the Jews laying piled up and scattered about all like so much cordwood. This is no joke, and my grandfather is STILL ALIVE to this day to tell the true story of WWII.
In fact, the German Nazi's HATED the Jews SO MUCH that even in retreat from the advancing allied front (Allies) and to save much needed and scarce ammunition, they simply would put them all in barns, and set them on fire to kill them.
Imagine that,,, BURNING JEWS, and the SCREAMS... the smell, the blood,,, burning, blistering, the falling bodies, burnt black, and red, and of white flesh.
Yeah... maybe you guys are right.. eh, hey, maybe it was only 2 mill, 6 mill, 12 mill, maybe 48... who knows... but it was, and continues to be the atrocity of the century, perhaps of all time, and for lesser enlightened people to downplay the horror, tragedy, and utter MOST IMPORTANT LESSON in that
THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN, that which was, is, or will be, and there is nothing which has not BEEN BEFORE.
That is to say, dear friends, HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF, the N.W.O. IS THE FOURTH REICH, and fundamentalist Christians, Jews, or Islamic ie. THOSE WHO REFUSE THE MARC OF THE BEAST SUPERCOMPUTERS (tracking chip with UPIC 666 bar coding to buy or sell)
WILL BE VICTIMS of this coming Holocaust.
After all, it's a matter of choice, after all UPIC, you decide.
Oh, and the gas chambers and ovens existed,,, and they were used... some major U.S. Company put the gas pellets down the spouts or little pipe thingys' and gassed them, they burned them, shot them, and burned them...
I suppose that's why some U.S. Soldiers would come along, and offer my grandfather a few bucks to "borrow" some of the German soldiers he had either taken prisoner, or who had surrendered to him. After my grandfather got payment, honestly thinking no harm would come to the German Soldier, he would see the American G.I.'s take them off into the woods out of view, and hear shots fired, a body fall, and no one returned.
The Germans had it easy. They went quickly. The Jews?
HATE HATE HATE and TORTURE TORTURE TORTURE was The Order of that day.
Is it the Jesuits or the elite masons, or are they all ONE working together via this 911?
Quite simply, factually, and well documented, 911 was a ritual alignment event (reference former NASA consultant and CBS Space news correspondent award winning scientist Richard C. Hoagland) or "ritual magic" ie. hyperdimensional physics catalyst event, designed to birth WWIII, and further manifest The New World Order as planned (reference Operations Northwoods) by shadow rogue elements of the U.S. Intelligence Apparatus ie. "Mystery" Babylon America... it was the great HOODWINKing of the world and a further ILLUSION and SORCERY by Mystery Babylon America to cloak herself in the guise of democracy and freedom, all the while like a Pirate on a stolen ship (SKull And Bones) looting, stealing, and using the vessel while taking other ships (Iraq, Afgahnistan) and preparing to permanently enslave, and largely kill the captives on board after She's done with them. 911 was a great act of very modern, well time, well executed "magic", ritual or ceremonial magic, designed to bring in a magickal childe, a hideous creation which has since it's inception, reeked havoc, chaos (Ordo Ab Chao) on the world at large, forever changing the face of politics, creating an unseen, unnamed enemy guised as "terrorism", and morphing into EXTREMISM, and soon to be "fundamentalism" (Jewish, Islamic, or Christian).
And that is America's greatest Hollywood style production, complete with all the plans of Operations Northwoods manifested in full view, and in full illusory and hoodwink fashion ie. Masonic sorcery, or the work of the old ones of the Craft.
its all racist. its all murder. what does it matter a little or a lot?
there have been far worse than the nazis, but then youre talking about people other than white so it is not as egregious.
and look at africa right now!!!! no matter what people say in public, the ruling class in this country still count blacks as less than human, like the law in this land used to state what fraction of a white person a black equated to. how does that make you feel!!!?????? why are we systematically depopulating africa by omission if it is our job to save countries from their despots and rebels?
I actually admire you for your search for truth and I have since the first post I ever read of yours. But I don't believe you found the truth but rather, I believe you found another set of lies but that is my opinion.
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No rudy this is not just your opinion , this is your agenda, how can you have the gall to say you admire someones search for the truth , when for how many months now you have been on a crusade to stifle the truth, this is the most hypocritical thing you ever said, you have no shame!
You have hurt many here personally with this narrow close minded revenge seeking venture of yours !
I now will never be able to express my total direspect for you without getting censored!
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