I just spoke to lady at RenewLife maker of Paragone. I was on day three of paragone but stopped due to pain in my lower back (liver) and intense creepy crawly feelings (ebyond itchiness) under my scalp, near my ears and nose/sinuses. I became paranoid that I would experience things coming out of my nose and being that they are moving, they must be alive and the last thing I need is to infest my daughter. then last night I took a bath to relax and tossed some Epsom Salts in just to clear my skins of any toxins that are harboring there from the 3 day paragone treatment. Within a minute I got this instant burn thingy on my calf. There was an exit mark...little red thing that looked like a pimple but the area around it looked like a burn. I stood up and washed off and reached for the tea tree oil. When I put that on, I saw an indentation mark..it was about 1/2 long and extremely thin. I couldn't tell what the hell it was. But I was pissed.
I did do half dose paragone yesterday adn I think I stirred things up and didn't actually kill them. GOOD F**** grief! Para-cleansing is doing me more mental harm than they were doing before.
I am stopping everything. I have stool samples in at my doc and I am just waiting for the results. I am mad that the paragone instructions did not say WATCH OUT THEY MIGHT LEAVE YOUR BODY IN MORE PLACES THAN ONE.
So now that I stopped, what will happen? will they still try to find their way out or will they rest easy until I kill them with mebendazole. at this point, natural medicine is causing me too much anxiety. I want them dead, not wandering around burrowing holes in my legs
sorry if I am being cynical. I am just upset that I have to experience what I am experiencing.
You do sound upset and scared.
Anti-parasite herbs work against all parasites, but not all parasites are actual pin- or hookworms. Not all of them live in your intestines therefore the exit is not that rear door necesseraly.Does it make sense?
Most people read and educate themselves before or during the small DIY projects like we all here just because of curiosity and when the info from Internet (thanks G-d for this!)is not enough we apply to friends,doctors (some of them)and forums.
Needless to say we all run DIY on our own risk and learn to listen the body and use common sense AND knowledge on how things work.
I read in those forums archives many people experience when the parasites exited body in different places. If you are infested with Mommas they won't go out through your colon for instance. There are approx. 3500 known human parasites and good luck with the lab trying to identify which one you have. Mine didn't help a bit,just made me mad.
Sounds like you made your parasites very uncomfortable and they are about to leave you alone. I'd be extatic frankly.
I honestly don't see how it's company's fault to predict what type of parasite you have. Nobody is forced to treat and heal yourself on his own and if you think the doctor's supervision suits you more it's sure up to you.
As for your last question- read about the side effects of the medicine and don't be surprised when you come across the exact same herbs they recommend to take along with it. The decent doctors do anyway. Your blood will be clean from the herbs soon and the parasites ( new eggs and larvae) will develop into adults that probably won't crawl around the way you can feel them now so your mental health will be saved.
the prescribed medicine doesn't work all the time.
My 7 yr old took the medicine, and she had a bowel movement full of LIVE worms. We then had to go get some Pin-x from the drug store to paralyze them. I didn't sleep for a week and it's been over a month and I still worry over every twitch and itch I feel at bedtime.
I know we didn't get rid of them all and I try not to think about it but I'm trying to unconstipate her and also to let her regain some strength before I start her on the herbs. I am currently doing an unpopular herbal cleansing program which is not working all that great, but I bought it, so I thought I'd use it up before I bought some Paragone.
Although I am grateful that I am not seeing any more live ones.
I really understand how you feel. I cried when I saw those worms on my 7 yr old, and I knew that she had more inside of her, and I was helpless at that moment to do anything to immediately get rid of them.
Take the vermox and then continue on with the Paragone and Hang in there!
I don't have lots of time to reply to everyone's posts but I am curious enough to ask how you knew your son had worms?
Since I did use the paragone for three days my intestines have come alive and I am bloated despite the fact that I've been eating very little. I haven't seen worms in my BMs yet but I have seen many things that I didn't eat...little tiny white things, mucous stringy things. Lord help me the day that worms come out in numbers.
My daughter had a worm crawling on her. She was complaining that her bottom was hurting and when I looked it was there.
I saw a bunch of worms in her bowel movement, first alive, then dead ones, but I have only seen tiny white/cream colored specks in mine and tiny little string-like things. We have mainly only gotten out pinworms/threadworms, although both of us had a worm 1 1/2 inches long. I only saw one come out of both of us, so I'm assuming there are more somewhere. I haven't really done a parasite cleanse yet.
i think you might end up in even worse sitution i fyou jstu stop/ til you have a repalcement treatmetn ready to go...
it is my understanding that worms paarasites etc/ giv eoff toxins a parasites and bacteria t aht live IN THEM as htey die off.
these bacterais and toxins and worm parasites your body has built up no immunity to... tso yo umight end up with die off from ones you have killed/ plus superinfestation of what they shre doff as they die/ plus the larvaes et ctha t yo uahve nort fully kille dyet/ tkaign ovet too . 8(
i know htis sounds prettty negative... but seriously ..
i think any treatment does state to stya with program til finshied or yo umigh thave severe die offs reactions.
i my sle f use aht Clarkia form www.sbherbalremedies.com
and also the oil of oregano to caathc any weir dstuff nto kille dby the parasite treatments. (oil of oregano is effective aginst 137 diff bacteria viruses etc.)
i think mos tevye roen goes thru an itchign stag ein gernal as paar tof detoxing / rashes etc...
and i have compelt empathy with your situation... i know it must be veyr hard/ mentally bu ti must agree with teh person who said/ it is evidence you are drivign soem thign form your body and soon they willbe goen and dead.... and hten jstu need to do maintenace every now an dhten...
honestly woudl yo u prefer that they were still in yo u?
i think most of us here have had soem what similar things on differnt lvls of experience .. so i am sure evye roen here feels deeply for your stress...
but i have to reemphasizze that you might not be so quick to jstu stop/ you might seriuosly end up sicker... use coomon sense . you took parasite treatment palnning on gettign rid of any in yo u.. see it thru please... i tis liek leapign across the river but yyou stop ahlf way and fall in....
jump that river full force!!!!
Wrenn, thanks for your message. I had a parasit test and a what is called a H pylori (spelling) test (to check for intestinal ulcer) which I gather is the same as leaky gut syndrom done last week and result came out negative. I know I have worms b/cos I feel the fighting in me especially when I eat sweets or ice cream and unhealty food eg foods that take a long time to digest, cause constipation and allergic reaction etc. I also have a sinus infestion that is taking a hell of a long time to heal (try 13yrs).
I do recollect using Oreganol oil very judiciously a few days prior to the test and also a could of days of food grade H2o2 then stopped. I'm thinking the HP and the oreganol did the trick although I did not eliminate any parasites that I know of.... Any comment?
PS you have very good info to share. please try to re-read your post. I have a really hard time understanding your material.
ye si know my posts ar ehar dot read / i am stillhealign form headinjureis.
you are suppose dto use the oil of oregano as a routine in your pack of arsenals lol *)
it is effective against 137 bacterias viruses lyme desease/ parasites not gotten by other paarasite treatments etc...
do a searhc and read on it/ it is well worth getting. goto Dr.
Vinogards forum/ cau se i know he posted where he gets his from onther e recnetly and the web i go t mine from is posted there also... no i doubt a one tiem shot killed p[arasites...
fact is 85 % humans have them all diff kinds... and most do not shwpo up on tests.. but belive me when they coem out you knwoit !! and i know i woudl rateeer have them com e out dead then alive.
i use the Clarkia extra strnght from www.sbherbalremedies.com
i have passed af ew but thanksfull so far nto as many as ithogut i might... sicen i go barfoot eveyr where most of my life.. this has been a nice surprise to me.. bu t then ihave laways eatens a diet high in garlic and onions.. et canyhow.. bu tstilli did pass some, and esp have had issues coem up withte oil of oregano/ which i am sure sre form other bactereias or micrsocpic parasites in my ears etc/
but asi stated any parasite progrma i bleive staates don't stop!!
ssstya witht he treatment or yourisk gettign sicker...
cause the parasties that are lkilled release toxins intehm an dparasites in tehm etc/ tha tyou have no immunity to...
and worse if you only kill a few then you have the die off/plus soem liv eworms still there plus now newly hatchign larvae plus the parasites that were realsed form soem dea dones.. tha tis a really bad sitution ...
so stick with a treatment fully.i don't knwoof anyoen that kills all larvae et c adults in all formes in jstu a few days... and then stay on amaintence palan too since we are constanly getting reinfested... but the maintence once a week dose is jsut to kill new larvaae/ so by then you will be caossstign 8) an dall clear
i can't comment on your diet... except to sy it is your choice and i am nto a preacher...
butyuou might wan to do soem research on soem notmilk webs and read why many folks do not use dairy etc...good fats/vs bad etc/
if you mainly use dairy fo rclacium youcan get that form juiing veggies recipes / amy hav emore clacium thant on e glass of milk...
and you cna make your own cool tirst quechign drinks tha twillenergize you by juicign rahter than slug you down...
ihave found addign the juicer ot my reg vegetarian diet the best thign i coudl have down... the fesh juice actually has it full vitamisn etc. vs the bottled juices i had drunkbe foe thinkign iwas actaully gettign soem thin gform them lol...you can y buy cheaper units too btw no need to invest in supe r high cost stuff until youare sure goign to adjust/ i never use soy product btw/ only rarely as a veggie burger/ maybe once a monthe... we don't like the taste of it an di ahve heard too much soy is not good anyhow.
good luck.. (and better luck readign my post you poor thing i knwo it is hard...