> Can anyone tell me if it is safe to do the liver cleanse AFTER the gallbladder has been removed? My grandmother had to have her gallbladder removed in November 2001. I say she HAD to because by the time it was removed, gangrene had set up in it.
Answer:
Yes, it is safe.
Many people have done it.
you can read several messages in this forum:
From: Mary Ann McCall maryan@a...
I did my first gall bladder/liver cleanse the other day. I was
amazed..I had stones the size of marbles! I had my gall bladder removed a year ago.
The doctors said my g.b. quit functioning. I still have tenderness and some pain in the liver area. It is so bad that I cannot stand to wear pants that fit me correctly.
I'm actually looking forward to my next cleanse. I'm ready to feel better.
I've just finished my fourth cleanse, and have passed at least 2 stones that were 1.5cm. I've had my gallbladder removed, but these stones have to travel down the common bile duct, and I passed them painlessly.
I'd definitely encourage you to do the cleanse if you can, but also do a parasite and kidney cleanse first. You can find recipies for them in Dr. Clark's book " The Cure For All Diseases ," or you can get it from a health food store.
I use a parasite, kidney, bowel cleansing program by Nature's Medicine Corp. 1-800-408-1525. Dr. Clark says to do the parasite cleanse first, however, I don't know if others recommend it also.
Adrienne
Jane Moran" Jane.Moran@t... wrote:
This is the first time that I have sent a message to this group. So,
I apologise if I am asking things that have already been covered previously.
I had my gallbladder removed twelve years ago and was assured by the
surgeon that it would solve all my problems. Sorry, to Gina I don't want to spoil any optimism you may feel, but it didn't give me my old life back. I built up again until two years ago the pain was again so bad that I was driven to go back to the doctor.But, I just could not
face going through all that again.
I used a grapefruit and olive oil flush very sucessfully, but the
stones kept coming back.
From: "Helen R." ehrynd@xxxxxx
Subject: Help
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:36:20 -0500
I bought your book, "Cure for all Diseases" . I tried the liver cleanse. I had my gallbladder taken out by laser surgery in 1990. I was so surprised at all the stones that came out if me. I was told I have a synovil cyst on my spine ,pinching nerves. The doctor says I have to have surgery to remove the cyst. Can you help. I am a 60 year old woman.
Hellen
From: emtsb@xxxxxx
Date: Mon., 07 Dec 1998 18:31:36 -0500
I had my gallbladder removed 6 mo. ago, and I am still having
terrible digestion problems my Dr. said I may have a blockage from a stone, I'm scheduled for endoscopy do you have any suggestion for me about the cleansing of stones what would you recommend.
I had mine out in October of last year and the symptoms of pain, indigestion and all of that persisted. I just did my second liver flush and I will try to post some pics. I used the light olive oil because I wanted to compare results from the last time. Last flush two weeks ago I got out 4 penney size stones and hundreds of bb size and sludge. This am I got out bigger stones, one as long as a quarter but not as wide, lots in the nickel size catagory. Keep flushing til your body tells you that you don't need to anymore. I plan to do this every two weeks until I am stone and sludge free. I am also doing this to reduce my total cholesterol on blood tests. My cholesterol has been over 400 without statin meds for years. I just quit my lipitor and am flushing. I have been on those meds since 1990. It is time for me to take charge of my own health. Good luck.
I am completely new to cleansing. I have not done any of them before. I bought a liver cleanse called Enzymatic complete liver cleanse with fiber. I am a little apprehensive because of the warning about not using if you have gallstones, or a blocked bile duct. I had my gallbladder removed over twenty years ago, so wasn't sure I could use this or not. It also says not to use it if you are taking prescription drugs. Do you know why this is and if it is ok for me to take?
I'm not asking for a "medical" expert answer, just one from someone like me who has no gallbladder.
Also, I had no Idea that you could have stones when you have no gallbladder. Do these come out painlessly?
Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Medical doctors that I have spoken with just say that cleansing is ineffective.
I wasn't sure I should do it because I am feeling so good!!!!!! I got out three cholesterol stones from my liver three weeks ago that were bigger than a quarter and I have felt incredible since then. No more RUQ pain, indigestion, liver pain, diarrhea, heartburn and the such since this last flush (that I had continued to experience the above symptoms since by GB was removed in Oct of last year). Last flush I found remnants of what appeared to be a worm embedded in one and I started the Paragone the very next day. You would not believe the hundreds of translucent worms that have come out of my body!!! I started the PB shakes last week to keep things moving along. I have passed numerous stones this am that were 1/4 inch 1/2 inches, to a couple that were over one inch across. I figure this will be an interesting flush today after getting the critters and debris out of my body. I encourage everyone to do a parasite cleanse at least one time because you just never know. I feel empowered with knowledge in the ability to make my body better. Thanks everyone for their help here and on other forums.
Andy, I have a family trait (I call them the death genes) called type 4 hyperlipidemia. My mother passed this trait onto me. She died in 1994 and had numerous surgeries for clogged arteries in her neck, heart, abdomen, and legs over a number of years. She also had triple bipass twice due to clogged arteries. My own cholesterol was found to be 425, TG 600's without medications in 1990 (at age of 30) and I have been on lipitor, zocar and other statin medications since then trying to stave off the heart disease and the such. I quit the lipitor in June of this year due to liver pain and started flushing every 2-4 weeks since then. I just did number six and am getting out an average of 100 stones a flush. I would estimate if you put all of my stones so far into a disposable cereal bowl it would be overflowing. (See some of my pics in the Image Gallery under liver stones ). I had my gallbladder out last year. It was totally non functioning. I just had some lab work this past week and am awaiting the results of the cholesterol panel and liver panel. I am hoping to prove to myself and the doctor that the liver cleanse work to lower total cholesterol and TG's. I will post results when I get them. Good luck to you. At least you have more knowledge than I did 15 years ago. Cleanse your liver. It will make everything so much better.
Hi, I can only tell you a little of my experiences. I had an ultrasound last year that showed a normal gb. It was "normal" because there were no calcified stones. Cholesterol stones will not show on ultrasound. A week later a HIDA scan showed my gb was working at <1% function. When my gb was removed a month later it was full of adhesions and scar tissue. My assumption is that I had a liver full of cholesterol stones and they blocked any flow of bile to the gb. I was running a chronic low grade temperature at the time, 101 degrees all the time and felt like crap. I thought if my gb was removed I would be fine. I was wrong. I continued to have pain, indigestion, diarrhea and all of the gb symptoms. I finally got the nerve to flush and have gotten out over a thousand stones in 6 flushes. See my other postings for details. Please flush and take care of your gb. You will feel so much better to take charge of your own health.
Did my 1st liver flush last night with a bit of trepidation... but without any problems whatsoever! NOTHING! Had no problem with the Epsom Salt.. just squeezed 2 nice little grapefruit into it & put in a wee bit of Stevia. Tasted just like grapefruit juice to me... and I even put a little more ES than called for. The OO/GF was no problem either, again just whipped it up in the blender with GF plus 1 lemon & a little Stevia. No oily taste at all. Didn't even have to use my straw! My only problem was sleeping... what little there was. No discomfort or nausea at all, just couldn't sleep. Maybe I was too excited awaiting the results of the cleanse! Anyway, I got a lot of yellow seed sized "chaff" or little, tiny stones.. I'm not sure of the difference.. plus a few larger ones. Nothing very impressive. But I knew it was from my liver. I even went to work on time today and have had plenty of energy all day, despite the cleanse & lack of sleep. Looking forward to the 2nd one in a couple of weeks!
I did a 3 month colon cleanse from Dr.natura.com "Colonix" and that was quite enlightening! I think it was good preparation for the liver cleanse. I also think following the recipe for 3 days before the liver flush of drinking a lot of organic apple juice, plus only water with some lemon in it the day of the flush might have helped.
The only way I got up the courage to do the liver cleanse was by reading, reading, reading many of the posts on curezone. You guys are just wonderful! Keep up the great advice! You launched me into taking even more responsibility for my health! Just wish I knew THEN (1967) what I know now... I'd still have my gallbladder! God bless you all.
I really can't repeat what Canada Woman said enough! It is true! Read, read, read, and read some more! It's a major life changer! But remember if parasites is what you have, you need to do that cleanse. A bowel cleanser is major important too! It took me four months of bowel cleansing to see the amazing results the 4th month... all that plaque! Wow! Then the liver cleanses started to clik in! Amazing 30 lbs in 3 weeks gone!
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