yes i think that is what he is saying...i envision a boot camp prison of women being forced to go thru pregnancy and give child birth.and then ripping that same baby from her arms and wisking it away to child services to be adopted...talk about cold and callous.
Once again I am not into FORCING anyone to do anything...if a woman is pregnant and ASKED ME what to do I would say have the baby and give it up for adoption IF she didnt want the baby...
Amber, I guess it depends on who is doing the "describing" I mean I want women to have as many OPTIONS or CHOICES as possible but I just think abortion is the killing of something sacred and innocent...
great...well this is what i say... go ahead and force your wife or girlfriend to give birth...or whatever you want to do...but let other people do what they want to do....
I NEVER used the word FORCE, YOU KEEP using it though...I have said over and over if you go back and check that I AM NOT INTO FORCING ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING!!! Can I be any clearer???
Very clear - you keep re-enforcing your pro-choice views! Pro-choice isn't about promoting abortion - I am unwed and if I got pregnant tomorrow I'm at the point in my life where I would keep it - does that mean I'm pro-life? NO
No one wants it. But there are circumstances when contraceptives fail, even between responsible partners.
So WILL you force the woman to carry the baby to term and to give it up for adoption?
Yes or NO
If it's a yes, then you are a pro-lifer
If not, then you are a pro-choicer.
supersport will not hesitate in saying yes. (you should read back on a bunch of his past posts..
this thread is particularly interesting, and will also make u think
You make it sound like there are only 2 choices then you "butcher" the choices available to paint me into a corner or something...I am PRO-LIFE but I dont FORCE or believe in FORCING anyone to do anything...OK let me try another way to clear my stance: If I were elected president and I had a CHANCE to make abortions illegal I still wouldnt do it as it would just cause it to go underground...now THAT doesn't make me pro-choice it's just a "common sense" viewpoint from a pro-lifer with common sense...
Could you PLEASE stop saying FORCE this or FORCE that because that doesnt describe me at all...it would be like me saying that you and Amber FORCE all women to get abortions which I know is NOT the case...
The definitions of both "sides" get skewered depending on who does the defining...I KNOW that pro-choice does NOT mean pro-death or pro-abortion...but you must understand that pro-life does NOT mean force...I am sure there are SOME that WOULD force you to carry the child just like I am sure that there are SOME that are pro-death or pro-abortion...there are FRINGES on BOTH sides, please understand that...but both sides are loaded with COMMON SENSE people too...
As for how someone treats me on this board, I really dont mind, but I am getting sick of repeating that I dont blieve in FORCING...
"If I were elected president and I had a CHANCE to make abortions illegal I still wouldnt do it as it would just cause it to go underground...now THAT doesn't make me pro-choice it's just a "common sense" viewpoint from a pro-lifer with common sense..."
If this is your stance, then I have no problem whatever with you mate!
Whether or not you call yourself Prochoice or Pro-life is of secondary importance.
Sorry if it seemed like we all jumped on you. We Are a bit hardened by one particular individual here who calls himself Pro-life. Who unfortunately does not have your common sense :-(
There is a difference between him and you all. He doesn't believe in forcing abortion but he is not for it either. He doesn't believe in it. Pro choice believes I don't care either way you decide. That is the difference.
The difference as I understand it is that in INCEST the child born would be in immense pain due to maybe having six arms, or some other deformity that may even kill the mother trying to give birth to it...when you read about calves with two heads, etc. it is usually due to incest...why would incest be a crime if it didnt have such serious concequences?
No actually plenty of incest happend especially long ago, becasue people wanted to keep the fortune within the family and many had perfectly normal kids. Deformities only happen 1/4 of the time or less w/ incest. If the fetus is too bad it will usually miscarry.
Are handicapped people less valuable then non hadicapped?