I do not disagree with you in that plants contain Boron and that the body needs it in small quanities!
But to say that a person may ingest it without any harm is just asking for trouble!
For as I mentioned it may be used to Kill ants !
It is also used in Fungicides and Pesticides etc, which just so happen to be for the purpose of Killing things!
Now "IF" you read where wikipedia mentioned that borax may be handled because of it's Low "TOXICITY", but they failed to mention "ANY" thing about what may take place when you mix this with different Acids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, not all may be as simple as it may first appear to be as they may have lead you to believe!
This idea is about as bad as the idea that you may use chlorox to wash your clothes, or you may use Ammonia to wash them!
Yes , either may be used and may be safe, but "IF" you accidently mix these two together, then you better have a Hospital near by for you to get to quickly or you may end up dead!
I never said anything about mixing borax with acids. I just said to use it straight. Do you agree that using it straight is fine? Are you saying that it's only toxic when mixed with acids?
Subject: Re: --what makes you think the skin is supposed to be Acid? --
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Date: 9/2/2006 10:09:33 PM ( 71 min ago )
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Pure water is the best and most universal cleanser. You can wash your face with pure oil, such as olive oil. Dampen your face, rub the oil in, and wash it off with a washcloth. It works perfectly, and is the best thing to use to get makeup off. Since I've been doing this my skin has been so much softer and clearer with more even tone.
You can use pure soap to wash your underarms or private parts but that's all you need it for. Borax is also excellent for washing the hands. It does not dry the skin and kills germs. (--you have just aid it Kills Germs--) You can also wash your hair with borax and rinse with citric acid as a non-toxic hair cleanser. (-- you have just talked about reacting an acid against it-- altho this is for external use--)
Dry skin brushing also cleans the skin well.
Most soaps are full of toxic ingredients. You can read more about non-toxic cleaners in Hulda Clark's book The Cure For All Diseases. Borax is also great for cleaning clothes. It is completely non-toxic and is odorless. You can even ingest it and it will not harm you,(--you just said you can ingest it without harm!!--) though it's not recommended.
Don't put on your skin what you wouldn't put into your body!
(--I am not saying it is not a good product to use, "IF" used properly!--But it may cause problems ,"IF" used improperly, and this may be very Bad , IF" it is ingested in high amounts into the body and reacted with the correct Acids, then it could become Posionous!!--)
Thank you moreless. You could have just said that in the first place though. But "IF" it is used on it's OWN purely for cleansing purposes it is perfectly safe. And "IF" you ingest it on it's OWN it will not cause harm. Which is what I said in the first place. I don't see why you would think differently as to make the conclusion that I know nothing and should not make statements that will harm people. Come on Moreless, your smarter than that. I hope.
And "IF" you ingest it on it's OWN it will not cause harm!
This is too open ended of a statement to be correct!
For "IF" you ingest it on it's own in large enough amounts and it reacts against excess Acids in the body, then it may more than likely cause the person some serious problems, if not Death!
Death would be in the Greatest posibility with this action!
WOW! I wasn't expecting you to start insulting me. Could you please inform people with consideration, and not start throwing insults at them? That was a very insensitive message. How can you expect anyone to respect what you have to say or help anyone if you insult everyone who suggest something different than what you say.
Honestly, I haven't seen much evidence that suggests a lot of the statements you throw around are correct either!
Anyways, hopefully now we can start talking like civilized people.
The information I got about borax came from the book The Cure For All Diseases. I have used it all around my household and from what I have seen it is completely safe. According to Dr. Clark, the reason borax kills insects is because the sharpness of the borax tears their 'bellies' and cause them to die. Now, I do not have a degree in chemistry but this sounded plausable to me.
There are many things that kill germs that do not harm humans. I'm sure you know that. Of course something that kills germs could also kill humans, but not everything. So why would I believe that kills germs would also kill and humans? Does that even make any sense?
Now please, I am a human being and what you said was hurtfull. I am only trying to help people the best way I can. Something I also think you are trying to do. So why the insults? That is NEVER helpful.
Perhaps you'd like to help me since you seem to think I'm idiot. Inform me. I just want the truth. Without all the BS please. I am genuinly interested in what knowledge you can provide me so that I will be correct in my statements.
But if it's not your style to educate people who don't already believe what you say, that's fine too. Just thought I could learn something.
Thank-you for this response, this tells me you are really trying to find the correct answers!
I do not have time to beat around the bush with everyone, so some of my comments may at first seem Blunt to those who may have not followed along for some time, as to my posting style!
But this way I learn real fast who just wants to argue and who is really seeking answers!
As usual you are repeating things you have very little understand about!
No wonder you have so many Health problems which you are unable to solve!
You are really dangerous to yourself and others with your posting things as Fact, and you Lack in the most Basic abilities of Chemistry to even understand what may be taking place!
Alright moreless. If we are all such idiots then please inform as to what takes place. I sick of being insulted and watching others be insulted. Why can't you just tell us the truth without the BS!
Haven't you ever noticed that the way to teach children is by telling them things kindly. Nobody ever learns anything by being insulted.
Okay so now we make wrong statements about stuff we don't know about. Big deal. It's not a crime. It's a mistake. Can you inform us so that we will no longer make this mistake again. Can you please tell us the truth so we will know. Because your making some pretty mean coments to people about their health and what they know.
I thought you wanted to help people? You certainly make a lot of claims about not being in this for the money and only wanting to help people. Can we see proof of that? Because I'm starting to get the feeling you don't want to help me or Hopinso or anybody that suggests something different than what you say at all. Prove me wrong?(I say this in the kindest way possible)
When people continue to troll the forums and make posts as that they are Facts and these people do not have the foggy-est of ideas what they are posting, then I believe these people need to be pointed out as providers of False info!
"IF" they are correct then they have "nothing" to be concerned about, for I would be the one who would become a "FOOL" !
The problem may be that False info does not seem to bother people!
But the "Truth" is very upseting to many people!
"IF" you care to or can Prove me wrong in my info, that is fine and I will have no problem with it!
But I have found that when a person has a problem and is not able to solve it, this is most of the times because this person has "FALSE" info !
So, "WHY" would I want to listen to someone who has not been able to solve their own problems????????????????
This is the case with some who troll the curezone forums dishing out info, which a lot of the times is incorrect info!
"IF" a person does not like being told by me that they may not know what they are talking about, then it may be Best to not comment on my suggestions, and especially to enter my private Kitchen with this False info which I may consider they are telling others to believe, just because they read it from some where on the internet from some person with a degree or what ever they claim to have which is supposed to make them an expert!
For an expert may just be someone who is a drip under pressure!
It is most difficult for most people to "smile,tis a choice" when someone has just attacked them. Politicans are the only ones I know of right off that can do that. Perhaps a hyena.
Have you "EVER" stopped to wonder Why the people who are getting Results by following my suggestions are Happy with my answers to them?
Did it "EVER" occur to you that those who are the Sickest and most Diseased, are the ones who Scream the Loudest and Complain the Most about my ideas and corrections to these people?
Do you suppose there may be a connection with a person being Decieved and them being Sick and Diseased?
Do you suppose that these people may need to correct their False info, "FIRST" before they may be able to solve their own problems?
Do you not find it interesting that many Decieved people have a "VERY" hard time when someone tells them the "TRUTH" about their problems and "FALSE" ideas?
"IF" the shoe fits, wear it!
"IF" you are correct, then it should not get you all bent out of shape!
Maybe these people are not as correct as they want to think?
denial and a strong reluctance to BELIEVE that they have been misled and\or lied to either intentionally or unintentionally by those in positions of TRUST (clergy, medicine, government, authority, etc) who would make a buck on their current desperate need for resolution to a\many major health crisis... and then a great deal of anger when they realize this AND understand that they have been forced into supporting a system (this happens frequently in the natural health and supplement industry too!) designed to keep them on treatment\medicine\supplement for profit for a lifetime to treat SYMPTOMS, not CAUSE.
I am constantly told I will get skin cancer because I spend 3 - 6 hours a week in a harsh sun... I have not burnt for two summers now and bronze like I never have before while people with pale skin who constantly slather on the sunscreen are getting pieces of skin cut off and biopsied all around me. I have never seen this healthy of a tan on me even when I was a kid and the few wrinkles and skin discolorations I did have are fading quite a bit. Not bad for a 50 year old male! I must be building an alkaline mantle... Another cause to believe this, is that on a recent trip to the mountains I had 2 insect bites without using any insect repellent, most others had at least 6 to dozens in spite of using the bug spray repeatedly on their skin.
How can they make money if they "cure" you or tell you the TRUTH? The companies that sell sun screen and bug spray do not make money on me any more :-)
Still got to work on the knees and the weight though, but I do see and feel things getting better in that department!
May you continue to recieve the many Blessings you are seeing take place for you and may more Blessings follow for your efforts to make the needed changes!
I was wrong about you moreless. Thank you for showing me you do care. It's just a little scary when people start throwing insults at you when you only meant to be helpful. In time, hopefully we shall all learn the truth and be set free. I'm just glad I stuck around to find my time.
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