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Gallstones can not be expelled from gallbladder! Fact or Fiction?

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  • Gallstones can not be expelled from gallbladder! Fact or Fiction?   BSA by  White Shark  3 year  24,418  Liver Flush FAQ / Liver Flus / Liver Flus
    We have all heard it almost every time someone mentions liver flush:

    Gallstones can not be expelled from gallbladder!

    Fact or Fiction?


    Is there any solid evidence that Gallstones can exit gallbladder?

    If there was any solid evidence that Gallstones can exit gallbladder, why would any doctor claim that gallstones CAN NOT exit gallbladder?


    Answer: Fact and Fiction.

    Fact: Some gallstones can exit gallbladder.

    Fiction: All gallstones can exit gallbladder. (Rare stones can be even larger then 2 inch (5Cm) in smallest diameter)


    Fiction: Gallstones can not exit gallbladder.
    (Anyone believing that no stone can exit gallbladder is ignorant/uninformed or plain wrong.)
    Stones can be smaller then 2 mm in diameter, and could easily travel through bile ducts, without causing obstruction, pain or any symptoms).


    In rare occasions, bile ducts can be extermely large, significantly larger then 2mm across, allowing stones, sometimes as large as 1cm across smallest diameter to travel through the ducts and to exit into intestines.


    Every stone starts it's life as a microscopic crystal of cholesterol. Very few gallstones ever get a chance to grow larger then 2mm. Most are expelled while microscopic or while as small as sand.




    cholesterol = chole + sterol
    The name originates from the Greek chole- (bile) and stereos (solid)

    cholesterol = Greek for solid bile



    How do we know that some gallstones can exit gallbladder?

    Medical science! Obstruction of the common bile duct is often caused by gallstones that were expelled from the gallbladder:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2407039&dopt=Abstract
    In patients with chronic Pancreatitis, common bile duct obstruction is reported in 3.2-45.6% of patients; however, only 5-10% of all patients with chronic Pancreatitis require operative decompression of the bile duct.


    http://www.virtualgastrocentre.com/diseases.asp?did=191
    Passage of gallstones into the common bile duct occurs in approximately 10-15% of patients with Gallstones. The incidence is thus related to the presence of gallstones, which are very common (10-20% of population).

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1119388
    Jaundice occurs in patients with gall stones when a stone migrates from the gall bladder into the common bile duct...



    Let us do some math here.

    20% of people may develop gallstones during their life
    15% of people with gallstones may experience obstruction of the common bile duct

    How many people may experience obstruction of the common bile duct?

    Answer: 3% of total population where 20% have gallstones.


    What about USA?

    Population of USA: 300 million.
    How many people may experience obstruction of the common bile duct during their life?

    3% = 9 million people in USA will experience obstruction of the common bile duct with gallstone(s), gallstone(s) that most likely was formed inside gallbladder, and then was expelled, only to be stuck into the common bile duct.



    Question: Do all gallstones expelled from gallbladder end-up blocking common bile duct?

    Answer: No, only gallstones that have specific size and/or shape.


    How many gallstones have that specific size and/or shape that would allow it to exit gallbladder, but would not allow it to pass through common bile duct or through the "sphincter of oddi"?

    Nobody knows the answer to this question.

    But, we could estimate that less then 10% of all stones would qualify.

    In other words, 90% of gallstones (or gallbladder sand and sludge ) that exits gallbladder does not stuck in the common bile duct, and will never be registered.

    What does that mean? Majority of people with gallstones have expelled some of their stones at one time or another, without ever knowing it happened. Stones pass from bile ducts into intestines ... no pain ... no obstruction ... no symptoms ... no awareness .... nobody knows it happened. But it happens every day. That is what nature intended for gallstones.

    Why don't all stones pass?

    Lack of phisical activity, poor diet, stress, not drinking enough water .... hundreds of reasons.


    What about USA?

    Population of USA: 300 million.
    Number of people who will develop gallstones: 20% = 60 million.

    If 90% of them expel some smaller gallstones at one time or another during their life, then we have 54 million of people who are going to pass or have already passed gallstones, and are not aware of it!!!



    Estimation:
    54 million of people in USA may expel some smaller gallstones from their gallbladder, while 9 million people in USA will experience obstruction of the common bile duct.


    The sphincter of oddi is situated in the upper intestine, or duodenum, at the site where the common bile duct enters intestine. Normally, this sphincter functions as a one-way valve to allow bile and pancreatic secretions to enter the bowel, while preventing the contents of the bowel from backing up into these ducts.


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    • Re: Fact for me... because I got well.  RN by  goodsamaritan55  3 year  9,560
      I don't see why there should be any debate about the effectivity of liver flushing.
      - I do liver flushing.
      - I expelled stones.
      - My eczema got cured, my shoulder pain got cured, all my allergies vanished.

      What happened in my case?
      - My use of python bile cured my left arm of eczema.
      - This showed my own bile production is lacking or my gallbladder is plugged up.
      - I do liver flush the 1st time: large masses of yellow brown cholesterol are expelled and 100 or so stones are expelled.
      - Each liver flush showed more progress in the healing of my eczema.
      - By the 6th flush my eczema is 100% well.

      And I have pictures and text documentation: http://www.eczemacure.info

      So in my personal experience, liver flushing works.

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      • Re: Fact for me... because I got well. by  joylovepeace  3 year  6,925
        just curious but were your stools light in color or did you have digestion problems that would have indicated low bile?
        your website is great, I so love all the pictures documenting your progresss! thanks so much!

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        • Re: Fact for me... because I got well. by  goodsamaritan55  3 year  6,602
          I did not pay much attention to the color of my stools.
          I never noticed the light color indications.

          But my anthroposophic doctor saw the following indications:
          #1 - slight pain on my right side when poked (clogged, enlarged liver)
          #2 - my tongue shows teeth marks, she says sign of pancreas weakness
          #3 - left shoulder pain (frozen shoulder, toxins trapped)

          The biggest indication was when my herbalist tried python bile on my eczema ravaged left arm. Using coconut oil as a medium, we mixed in the python bile to be absorbed. I used a light piece of cloth to dab in the python bile on my left arm. My eczema ravaged left arm healed in 1 night (8 hours) and I stayed up dabbing all night watching it heal, which truly amazed me, my herbalist and my anthroposophic doctor.

          This was the breakthrough we had been waiting for.

          The anthroposophic doctor theorized that if that tiny amount of python bile can do that, and human bile should be produced in larger volumes every single day, then my liver seems to be plugged up, plugged with liver / gallbladder stones.

          Then she wrote down her recipe for fresh apple juice / extra virgin olive oil liver flush. I chose an easier recipe on the internet. And the rest is history. Liver Flushes work!

          Of course I first did a kidney cleanse. Then I did a full set of colon hydrotherapy sessions. My next phase next month is parasite cleanse from humaworm.com

          Now I have some happy website readers with similar eczema conditions thanking me for their having stumbled on to my site and with the info they got well too!

          I just wish I had known about curezone.com a lot earlier. If I had done the curezone eczema cure protocol earlier, it would have saved me a lot of time, money and anguish. I only learned about curezone after I did my 6th flush.

          Curezone basic protocols work. Absolutely. Do them all. Liver flushing is a major part of the cleansing protocol... and it works.

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    • Re: Gallstones can not be expelled from gallbladder! Fact or Fiction? by  jgblack2  17 mon  4,369
      I am looking for similar information on the so called Liver or Gallbladder flush. I have done it twice and passed green stones both times. The first time I drank lemon juice with the olive oil. The second time I did not take any citrus juice that day. I did the olive oil flush after finishing a Colon Cleanse with Oxypowder. I still passed stones so I would say lemon juice is not part of the mixture that makes the stones. I did drink espom salt both times though. I find it hard to believe that everyone that does the flush could pass so many gallstones. I have not met anyone yet that has not had some kind of stone pass the next day. I think most of the stones are a result of the olive oil forming into something, perhaps a soapy like substance. On the other had many people swear by the flush and feel much better after. I am wondering if a few tiny real Gallstones may actually be passed but are over shadowed by the larger, green, floating globs of olive oil. I think the flush is too good to be true, but I would like to think that at least a few real gallstones are being passed. I too am looking for lab results or comparitive ultrasounds. My doctor will not send me for a second ultra sound. He says it is a waist of time. I plan to find a new doctor and get a second opinion. When I am completed I will post all my results along with all the methods I have used to treat my gallstones.

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