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    • Re: some recent setbacks by  Ohfor07  6 year  888
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      • Re: some recent setbacks by  Invincible  6 year  817
        What kind of diet are you feeding your dog? What breed is he?

        Apologies if you've mentioned this before, but I haven't read your other posts.

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        • Re: some recent setbacks by  Ohfor07  6 year  796
          American Bulldog, which is on the short list of breeds known to have this predisposition (along with Dalmation, Dachshund, Shizou ).

          He gets commercial dry dog food - Buckey Pro Kennel twice daily, an occasional biscuit treat - usually charcoal, and people food on rare occasions.

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          • Dog healing through correct diet by  Invincible  6 year  858
            Many pedigree breeds have a predisposition to something, however it is only a predisposition and a lot can be done to proactively prevent disease, not give the weed a chance to grow as it were.

            My dog (Bedlington terrier) has a predisposition to copper toxicity and liver disease, however, I am damned if I am going to allow that to be a part of his life.

            Commercial dog food is junk. Biscuits are junk. Most human food is junk to dogs.

            Junk clogs up the system creating all sorts of toxicity.

            What does a canine eat in the wild? How does a dogs digestive tract compare to a wolf/hyena? What do animals in the wild die of? What is REAL canine food?

            Are you still with me?

            My dear Ohfor07, I am not casting judgement .. I just want you to entertain the idea that the foods you are feeding your bull dog is what is creating his problems.

            The 1st step to healing is to remove all toxicity.

            The 2nd step is to feed the body what it needs to rebuild and heal.

            That is true for humans, dogs and all creatures.

            OK - want to read more about food fit for dogs? you can start off with my raw food for dogs blog:
            http://curezone.com/blogs/b.asp?f=731


            Here are a few threads that would be very useful to read on feeding the correct diet to dogs:


            http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=806972#i



            http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=750990#i



            http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=809389#i


            You might also like to go to the pet healing forum for further questions/information:
            http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=88


            Best wishes
            Maya

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            • Re: Dog healing through correct diet by  Ohfor07  6 year  806
              Oh I'm with you. In part I was already with you a little bit even before you got with me ;) The informtion is much appreciated.

              If dog was not domesticated but instead accustomed to a normal life in the wild, he would be eating other small animals AND whatever those small animals had eaten; fur, offal, their parasites and all. The practical reality is, dog had already been domesticated and accustomed to domesticated life by the time I rescued him. At that time I did not know much compared to what I know today about the modern ills of domesticated life (human and animal), diet alternatives, herbs, and that big can of worms we all get from the the collective FDA cartel. Just reading the bag that the dog food comes in, it's pretty clear that dog food is as you say "so much engineered junk" very much similr to what we humans get through our grocery stores and their repertoire of "food" and household chemicals. I suppose that instead of paying commercial bagged dog food, I could convert to going to the pet store and paying for some caged mice, rats or other small animals, then take those home, set them loose under dog's watchful eye so that he could have at least a chance to figure out that this was now his new primary source of food. There is a down side to all of this too; I'd be potentially facilitating a growing population of neighborhood rodents especially if dog is really slow on the uptake. I can see it now. I wake up, reach into the bag of live dog food, pull out a candidate rat, walk outside, dog looks at me with his now continual confused look, meanwhile, there is a gang of stray cats skirting the edges of the property who are looking at me with the kind of anticipation that dog should instead be experiencing.

              All this being said, though, I have to consider the practical reality. I live in a small town bordering a city, so off the bat I'm not in a good place to give it a go in trying to convert dog to being an outside dog. To let him outside loose will provide its own source of potential problems and liabilities. To let him outside tied to a chain, in addition to the inhumane factor, will only add to this. I've seen the real deal in play at MH's home. His dogs have several acres to rome and forage just around the house, and several more miles of surrounding rural terrirotry if and when they opt to expand their roming.

              There is the dog's present level of conditioning to domesticated life that I must realistically consider. It may border on strange and unique torture to try changing him now that he's mid-life. If he was a brand new puppy dog, it would be one thing. Hes an adopted dog, so a bit of an unknown quantity to begin with, that has since enjoyed a little over 5 years of domesticated life under my care. On top of all of this, it would be somewhat optomistic thinking to consider that I could just put him outside on his own with the hope he'll be able to figure it all out beore A) getting run over by a car or truck, B) captured by either the local dogpound nitwits OR the deranged neighborhood nitwits that are pretty much standard fair and in increasing supply roaming the streets in pretty much any community in America these days , or C)tangled up with other domestic animals already running loose in the neighbhorhood and D) sort out all these newfound variables on his own while also relearning how to stock and capture his own food, so that he E) ends up safe, sound and nourished all the while being able to recognize that his master did not spring this on him for personal reasons. The most likely reality is option F - continuing on with the same basic domestic life and making the best of that while dog continues to play out the remainging part of his life.

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              • Re: Dog healing through correct diet by  Invincible  6 year  783
                Oh LOL Ohfor07! I love you already :-)

                I am in no way suggesting you have your highly domesticated dog run around a city grabbing all the available live vermin it can get its paws on!

                I am fortunate, I do have a small garden (fully fenced/safe) where my dog will eat in the warmer months. When it rains or it's cold, he will eat in the kitchen. The kitchen floor is easy to clean.

                By an appropriate, healthy raw dog diet - I am taking about raw meaty bones - chicken wings, not live rats! My dog is fed approximately 60% raw meaty bones (whole chicken wings, portioned rabbit, salmon, raw egg sometimes with shell etc.) plus approx 10% offal and the rest is some mushed up raw veggies to which I normally add a little ACV and kelp.

                Sounds expensive .. a little more yes, but no vet bills!

                When he eats indoors, I will cut the meaty bone pieces into smaller chunks. Outdoors, he likes to thrash his meat around.

                For your information, I would never put my dog on a chain - I agree, that is cruel. I also do not let my dog roam freely unless just in the garden and house - anyway, there are strict rules against that in the UK.

                There is no reason to rearrange your dogs life - It is the same with humans. Even those following MH's formula for health will not be living outdoors like a cave man, almost naked but covered by a furry loin cloth!

                All you need do is to add the right type of raw (but dead) food as detailed above and in the links previously provided .. to ensure your dog gets the type of food his digestive system requires. No need to bring home live rats I promise! That type of diet will ensure a dog gets all the nutrients it needs to get well and stay well.

                Oh .. as I recall in your earlier post about calcified stones. Why do you suppose stones get calcified? Calcium is the most alkaline mineral of all .. and it goes to the areas where the body is most toxic. The calcium is trying to neutralise the toxicity. Now .. where do you think your dog got his calcium if he is eating a commercial diet? Well .. it's not from his diet!! .. the calcium is being pulled out of his bones to go to the most toxic place to help him. Survival. so, calcified stones are not excess calcium in the body ... but the body using its calcium reserves from the bones to go to a place of toxicity to help neutralise acids.

                If your dog were to eat raw, meaty bones, such as good quality chicken wings, there will be plenty of calcium and minerals in the bones. This will help to rebuild, restore and heal. bones are essential for the mineralisation of dogs.

                There are many posters on the pets forum who have had their older dogs convert to a healthy diet and the dogs have thrived, healed and got better. It's never too late to teach an old dog a new trick :-)

                It's the same for humans .. even the old can receive healing once they remove what creates toxicity and add what heals.

                My best to you!
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                • Re: Dog healing through correct diet by  Ohfor07  6 year  766
                  That's some pretty interesting information Invincible. So, you're saying the preponderance of Calcium (it's alkaline? i was not aware of that) is likely a natural bio-result of the dog's body trying to do what it was designed to do - maintain balance? And that this balance is generally out of whack due to the quality of commercial food?

                  Don't get me wrong. I'm happy to have found this Vet. This past Tuesday, I took the trouble of driving hours to Pittsburgh through snow just to visit the Vet we were already familiar with, and it turned out that for a second time they were unable to surgically remove the stones. I dropped him off at 9AM. By 2 PM, I had not heard anything, so I went back to the office, found that he was still under anesthesia, and witin the hour found out that after they prepped him, they started to go in, and spent a few hours comging to the conclusion that they could not handle the situation. They closed him up, gave him back to me and it ended up costing close to $500 just to find out that they could not get the job done. By Thursday I'd located this new Vet within 10 minutes of home. We had a quick visit that day. The next morning, I dropped him off at 9 AM, by 10:15 AM, the phone rang to tell me it was all over, they got it all taken care of, and I even got a baggie of the stones PLUS digital Xrays on CD. If you read the earlier description, you might have noticed that this new Vet gave a cursory explanation of the basic dilemma certain breeds have in maintaining "a delicate balance" of Acid V Alkaline in the urine. I do not know if it was because he was unable to explain OR if he thought I would not understand the technical explanation, but either way, he sort of gave me a glossed over "well, it's just really tricky, if it goes a little too acidic, you get calcium stones, if it goes a little alkaline, you get struvites". If I follow what you are saying, the Calcium buildup is indicating his body is trying to provide some alkalinity (courtesy of leachign from the bones) in order to overcome the acidity from a commercial diet.... do I have this right?

                  Thanks. I need to look into the raw options a little more closely. As it is right now, the new Vet set me up with a 10 pound bag of this scientific diet that is supposed to be made expressly to handle a dog with Calcium Stone urinary problems. From what I've been told, in order for this diet to have any chance of working, I can only give this dog this food, religiously, no exceptions, no other food, no snacks, no treats, just this food...... or else!



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                  • Re: Dog healing through correct diet by  Invincible  6 year  809
                    " So, you're saying the preponderance of Calcium (it's alkaline? i was not aware of that) is likely a natural bio-result of the dog's body trying to do what it was designed to do - maintain balance? And that this balance is generally out of whack due to the quality of commercial food?"

                    Yes, correct to everything. and yes, calcium is very alkaline and the most needed mineral for humans and dogs.


                    "If I follow what you are saying, the Calcium buildup is indicating his body is trying to provide some alkalinity (courtesy of leachign from the bones) in order to overcome the acidity from a commercial diet.... do I have this right?"

                    Yes, I see you have understood it all very well. and bear in mind .. this is a human problem too .. those with arthritis, gout, osteoporosis .. calcified kidney/liver stones .... it's all the same thing. the calcium has been leached and there's not enough left to buffer the acids being flooded into the body by incorrect food choices.

                    It's not always easy for humans to take responsibility for themselves ... but with a house dog, we can choose for them, and therefore limit their suffering.


                    "As it is right now, the new Vet set me up with a 10 pound bag of this scientific diet that is supposed to be made expressly to handle a dog with Calcium Stone urinary problems. From what I've been told, in order for this diet to have any chance of working, I can only give this dog this food, religiously, no exceptions, no other food, no snacks, no treats, just this food...... or else!"

                    A vet is not qualified in nutrition, and no matter how nice and well meaning a vet may seem, they are marketed to by the drug and pet food manufacturers, just like our medical doctors.

                    Those that study the eating habits of canines in the wild know what an animal will choose for itself to remain well. No dog would choose kibble, canned food, biscuits over the real thing!

                    Every drug the doctor sells is also "scientifically proven" ... and you already know what that's about - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - commercial dog food is about $$$$$$$ too.

                    Whatever you choose to do, I wish you and your dog the best
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            • Re: Dog healing through correct diet by  Ohfor07  6 year  733
              PS - thanks for the links. I WILL read them.

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            • Re: Dog healing through correct diet by  #35289  6 year  760
              How about cats? My cat eats mice when outside, so I feed her meat but there's gotta be something better.

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      • Re: some recent setbacks by  minihaha  6 year  814
        Your foot looks really uncomfortable. My husband's eczema has been so bad at times that it looks very similar to how your foot does. He has healed up alot since the worst bouts of it but still deals with alot of skin itching. I looked Unker's Salve up on the internet... I'd be interested in purchasing it for my husband to try. But then there are a number of places selling it and you just never know who to trust as far as pure product goes.

        Sending well wishes for both you and your dog.

        I'd be interested in hearing about the mostly hidden story that has something to do with the backside of a dime.

        Brenda

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        • Re: some recent setbacks by  Ohfor07  6 year  803
          yay Minihaha! I’d pretty much given up on anyone being curious enough to ask about how it is that our dime has any relevance to the influences on our lives today that came from our history. But f ...
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          • Re: some recent setbacks by  minihaha  6 year  791
            No... not too much information at all!!! I understood everything you wrote though tying it all together was a little difficult for me. Most of it is new information to me.

            What a great little lesson you wrote. I don't even know where to begin asking questions!!!

            It's funny... we do indeed see symbols everyday, but they're so commonplace that we don't think to question it any more than we question why grass is green or the sky blue. I wish I were more observant... it often takes someone else to point something out before I notice it. Back in my late teens, I only noticed the eye in the triangle on the backside of the dollar bill because someone pointed it out to me.

            It's like what you said... "Hidden in plain site."

            I'm going to have to re-read your post again tomorrow when I'm a bit more alert and don't have my husband asking if I'm almost done.

            Thanks for the great post!!!

            Brenda

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    • Re: some recent setbacks by  mh  6 year  768
      I am assuming you more than know the reasons since you have read BOOK I and studied some of the Christopher education, etc.

      The skin takes over when the body is over loaded, etc.

      I suggest dropping all the habits, dog to his dog house and human to his house, etc., etc. smoking, diet, etc., etc. the same ole story I give to all. For now I would take a serious dose of the liver tonic and do a 40 day fasting, etc., etc.

      Your on the right path, you just need to speed it up.

      I don't suggest your having a set back, I suggest your going in the correct direction, as you learn, you will apply.

      MH

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      • Re: and now, the rest of the foot story by  Ohfor07  6 year  867
        Thanks for the advice and encouragement, MH. I needed that. I've been keeping the foot situation mostly under my vest, so to speak. Did not want to unnecessarily alarm some of the sheeple in my immediate family. Unfortunately, now that I've had the "failed doctor's appointment" incident, this is now starting to unfold. There is now the worry trickling through the family that I may have skin cancer on the foot. Here is the rest of the foot story.

        28 years ago after 3 straight days on the beach, I ended up with the tops of both feet badly sunburned. By the time I got back home, the family doctor, which is the same one who's now refusing to give me an appointment, looked at the feet and said they were somewhere between 2nd and 3rd degree burns. By the time I got back to the city to return to school, the feet had swollen, blistered, some of the blisters broken, and the feet oozing. I had to get back to school, so to add insult to this injury, I had to strap shoes over top those bright read, swollen, blistered, oozing feet. The left foot seemed to have gotten the worst of this. Within another day, I woke up and discoverd that somehow, I'd gotten an outbreak of poison ivy on top of the left foot. By the end of the day, this had spread to my face, all over it, into the corners of my eyes, mouth, nostrils.... I was a literal freak show. Next day I threw a dart into the yellow pages and found a doctor within a few blocks. He prescribed two things: some powder to put into hot water to soak the feet and begin to dry them up; an immunity building prescription of little white pills, 1 the first day, then 3, then 5, so on and so forth until the pills were gone. I'm wondering if those pills contained some actual poison ivy active ingredient (Urushiol?) or were they steroids?. Within 24 hours, the feet had made remarkable progress and the face was already clearing up nicely. Within a week everything was almost back to normal.

        Another interesting aspect to me is that up to this point, I'd always had a problem with poison ivy, just like dad, I got it often in the spring & summer, to the extent that it sometimes appeared as though I would get it just by somebody else looking at it and then breathing on me.

        Ever since that prescription, for the next 15 years, I never had one more lick of poison ivy, not a one. Even since the end of that 15 year period, whenever I do get an outbreak, it's usually quite mild compared to how it used to be. There is a strange exception. About 2 years after this incident (so, that's about 26 years ago), one day out of the blue this patch appeared on the top of the left food, right near the spot in the middle where the oozing had been the worst. This patch, about quarter size, appeared to be the beginning of a poison ivy outbreak; tiny little bubbles. It itched, but it stayed normal foot color, no inflamation, no spreading. I did nothing other than look at it, wonder about it, and scratch when it itched. When it itched, it was quite intense, one of those that the more you scratch, the more it itches. Within 2 days, it was gone, as quickly and mysteriously as it had come. For the past 28 years, this same situation has been playing out about once every year or two. It's very irregular, in a regular kind of way ;) When the patch arrives, it does not have any color to it, no inflamation, no spreading, it just comes, spends a day or two, then leaves. This past spring the patch returned. It did not go away this time. It pretty much stayed the same for the next 8 months. Something changed about a month ago. What? I don't know, but the patch slowly began to spread, I got a new patch on the ankle. But it had not yet become inflamed. The inflamation and adding of vivid colors did not happen until after I began experimenting with various herbal fomentations the past 2 weeks. The walnut hull tincture fomentation really seemed to set off the inflamation and spreading.

        The original foot photo at the beginning of this post is now the current state of this foot that the patch had returned to this past spring. At that time, it appeared to be following the same innocent regularly irregular pattern of the past 28 years...........go figure... ?

        Somehow, some way, I get the idea that this situation is somehow related to that original incident from 28 years ago. I also get that it has somehow been affected by some of the changes I've been applying the past 2 years, especialy having all my dental metals removed. In any case, I can understand why there may be some concern for skin cancer. A few people I know involved in medicine claim that it often takes up to 20 years or so for skin cancer to develop as a result of a bad blistering/scarring sunburn event.

        For now, I've at least got the itching under control. Luckily I have some of your iron tonic on hand. I've also been trying to soak in a bucket of plantain tea every several hours. That seems to help a bit. Glad I picked a big batch of Plantain out of the yard late last summer. It's been waiting in my freezer for a reason to be there :)

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        • Re: and now, the rest of the foot story by  Hilton_Hotela  6 year  772
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        • Re: and now, the rest of the foot story by  mh  6 year  799
          The REST of the STORY

          THANKS
          Now it leaves no room for guessing, well, I still guess, because I NEVER KNOW.

          The B&W was around 28 years ago and would have been your savior.

          You MD at the time must have gave you a drug or some prescription of IRON. Poison Ivy comes from a lack of Plant Iron, if we could only know the name of that prescription back then, I will take a wild guess it had a iodine/iron formula in it, I think they call it SSK or something like that. Anyway, when your hurt or anytime of life, plant iron does wonders for health and healing, it is 1/3rd the secret of every formula I make.

          To last 15 years, that is amazing.

          Naturally you NEVER HEALED and everything you do to improve your health is going to bring out these old surpressed diseases. I expect this with every cleanse/fast, that is why I do cold water therapy, i makes me feel a little ill and bones ache as the body is removing the lead and disease from deep within my bones and I pay with it by plenty of mucus coming out the nose and up and out the lungs, those are true signs of a good cleanse and your done when the snot goes away.

          I suggest you feet are damaged and a place for your liver to expell waste.

          If it were summer, I would say soak them in MUD, you could do the same I guess in a bucket of clay and water. I have several of those foot ionizers and I would think they would do wonders for it, but do not buy one that use to be advertized here on the curezone, man were they ever wishing to rip the customer off, their price was beyond crazy.

          The Liver tonic would be my internal herb of choice along with believing your now ready to heal your sun burn. To do so, follow the B&W burn aid info and I use a ocean leaf that is precooked and ready at a moments notice. "IF" you believe there is any fungus in those toes, I would use some peroxide strong enough to make her foam and then rinse it off, dry it and apply the ointment.

          Being a weekened spot on your body, you can expect much of your disease wihin will want to expel there, unless the LBB and sitz bath along with life fruit diet are not followed until your about 170 pounds!!!

          Blessings,
          MH
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