I suffered with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for decades. About five years ago, I had just completed a full course of antibiotics, but a few days after that, I felt like I was getting another damn sinus infection.
Out of desperation and frustration, I flooding my nasal passages with DILUTED 3% Hydrogen Peroxide. It seemed to do some good, even though it was very irritating to my sinuses, so I continued a series of infrequent floodings over the next seven months and then basically stopped doing it. It worked. It has now been over five years since my last sinus infection. I seldom do sinus flooding anymore, and I never do any type of sinus irrigation.
I think that the infrequent peroxide sinus floodings allowed infection-damaged sinus areas to totally heal, by killing germs within the sinus areas, thus keeping germs away from the damaged areas. I do not think that flooding sinuses with a mixture of diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt kills an established infection, but I do feel that it can treat minor sinus infections and it certainly protects damaged nasal passages from re-infection until damaged membranes heal. I am not a health professional. I am only posting what worked for me.
Here is the link to my full documentation: "Upside Down Sinus Flooding":
"If you save one life, it is as though you save the entire world"
I tried this method to flush my sinuses, and I am lucky that my ears only swelled for 3-4 days, and back to normal now. I don't know what went wrong, but it is dangerous to use hydrogen paroxide; for it might damage the ears.
I read your steps, but couldn't do exactly as you posted it, without keeping my head while bending over the sink. Though the ratio was more than 10 to 1, but some of it must have sneaked into my ears, especially my right ear; even the outside of it was swelling. Thank you for your concern, I am so boggled down by this chronic allergies that I thought I might give it a try. The crisis is over.
I use this Protocol when my sinuses act up and it works for me. Only I don't flood, I lay down on the bed with my head back, put about a dropperfull in each nostril and hold it in for several seconds and then drain it out. I use regular Sea Salt .
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I've heard that before. The peroxide flooding must loosen junk that irritates the sinuses, I guess? Any kind of junk, whether it be bacterial, viral, or just crude, can cause nasty swelling and misery, and even cold/allergy-like symptoms. Do you live in an area with significant air pollution?
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Although you haven't had a problem with your Middle Ears or Eustachian Tubes, just be careful in that position, when you are putting liquids into your nasal areas. The openings to the Eustachian Tubes are near the bottom back of your throat, so when liquid is in that area, any sneeze, or swallow, or chewing action, or jaw movement, etc., can open the tubes allowing liquids in.
How often do you think peroxide can/should be used for sinus irrigation or flooding? I've been doing irrigation every day as I'm going through a particularly bad period with my sinuses. Yesterday I added 2 tsp of peroxide to 8 oz of my usual salt/baking soda mixture. Burned like hell, but I want to use it at least some of the time. I have been using grapefruit seed extract regularly (about 5 drops in 8 oz of water) and I'm thinking about continuing to use that most of the time but replacing it with peroxide periodically. I just don't want to overdo it with the peroxide.
I did try the flooding technique and it worked fine. I always had my doubts about the regular upright irrigation method and whether it indeed gets adequate coverage across the sinuses. I plan to use the flooding periodically to help ensure better coverage. Maybe even once a day for a short while. What is your opinion about this?
How often do you think peroxide can/should be used for sinus irrigation or flooding?
As infrequently as possible. Peroxide is very irritating to the sinus membranes. I used it about 30 times during the first seven months that I tried using peroxide to cure my sinus infection problems.
I posted a log, showing my activity with the flooding, on my Upside Down Sinus Flooding Homepage. If you get a chance, read it. It will give some idea of how often that I did a flooding.
I've been doing irrigation every day as I'm going through a particularly bad period with my sinuses.
If you are suffering from allergies, the peroxide will just make you feel worse. You would need to find the foods, chemicals, substances, etc., that are making your sinus problems worse than normal. I only use Sinus Floodings, with peroxide, to treat or try to avoid a sinus infection problem.
Yesterday I added 2 tsp of peroxide to 8 oz of my usual salt/baking soda mixture. Burned like hell, but I want to use it at least some of the time.
Sorry that it made you feel worse. It reminds me of the first time that I tried it. I used much too much peroxide and it closed up my sinuses completely and painfully for three days. I was not only in increased sinus misery, I was also depressed. But..... after three days, my sinuses felt better than in a long time. After that, I cut way back on the amount of peroxide.
A key for when I stopped doing infrequent sinus floodings was when I stopped getting blood with the discharge. Absence of blood indicated, to me, the absence of injured nasal membranes.
I did try the flooding technique and it worked fine. I always had my doubts about the regular upright irrigation method and whether it indeed gets adequate coverage across the sinuses.
Well..... it depends upon what you mean by "coverage across the sinuses". Flooding has the greatest potential to get in, and around the Turbinates, and throughout the nasal passages, and possibly into the Frontal or Ethmoid Sinuses, but it is very difficult to effect the Maxillary Sinuses (under the cheek bones). Maxillary Sinus problems are the most difficult to treat.
I plan to use the flooding periodically to help ensure better coverage. Maybe even once a day for a short while. What is your opinion about this?
I am not a health professional, merely someone who found a way to rid himself of chronic, decades long, multiple annual sinus infections. I can only really say what helped me, and what I have learned about sinus floodings with peroxide. You might want to re-read the documentation and read the log that I posted, to give you some ideas about how you want to treat your sinus problems.
Pay special attention to the warnings concerning Eustachian Tubes and Middle Ears, which could suffer problems from flooded nasal areas.
I hope that the sinus flooding technique, with or without peroxide, really helps you a lot. I know sinus misery and would not wish it on anyone.
Regards, best of luck and health to you!
Documentation and log at: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-upsidedown
Thanks for your help, cando. I did run across your home page within the past few days. Thanks for taking the time to help others like that.
I'll probably stick to about the same frequency you did for the H2O2 and use salt/baking soda/GSE the rest of the time.
I did do a food elimination diet, including no dairy or wheat for 6 weeks but I didn't really notice any difference in my sinuses or my health in general during or after the diet. I don't notice reaction to any other stimuli, really. I know I'm allergic to mold and I believe I have a fungal infection (chronic I suspect). I plan to irrigate right now more frequently and then back off some once it's clear. My eustachion tubes are totally blocked right now and have been for all of 2007 except for a 3 week period. I had a year long period of low immunity and I thing this took hold over that time, especially when I was on 5 weeks of doxycycline. I also did 10 days of augmentin after seeing an ENT doc, but that did nothing, which just reinforces my notion that this is fungal. Plus, fungus seems to like me. I've had little white critters living on my tongue for over a year now ;-)
My eustachion tubes suddenly cleared a few weeks ago, during a very dry period around here (2 or 3 weeks without rain and very low humidity days) and then as soon as the rain and humidity came back my infection was back in business. I suspect that this isn't a coincidence.
I'm very intrigued by the upside down H2O2 method. I plan on trying it soon, although I may start with greater than 40 to 1 dilution and see how it goes. I do have a few question I'm hoping you can clear up.
When you say 'point your forehead to the sink' it's unclear if you're talking about having your head flat, at a ninety degree angle to the floor, or further down. I'm a tall guy and my sink is pretty low, so I could have my head almost 'upside down' but even if my forehead is agains the front of the sink, it wouldn' be fully upside down, and it seems the angle is pretty important. If I used the tub I could be fully upside down, but I'm not sure that that is what you're suggesting. Also, I use a waterpik type sinus irrigation device, which puts the fluid in with a little pressure so that it drains out the other nostril. Have you experimented with flooding using larger amounts of liquid to irrigate? There's two positions you can use with this, one is with your head tilted to the side, the other is face down. I imagine with H2O2 I'd want to keep my head straight.
In response to the previous post, I found warm dry air is very helpful. In fact, when I get a sinus infection, which I do far too often, despite having had sinus surgery last year, I'll actually take a few days and go to Las Vegas. It seems the dry desert air has a magic effect. As a result, instead of using a humidifier, which also seemed to add mold to my window sills, I use a dehumidifier, although in the middle of winter it might be a bit too dry. I also have my house really warm, and when I drive, the heat on in my car all the time. Finally, I used to use a steamer and a steam room at the gym, but now I go into the sauna. It's really surprisingly effective, and I'll sometimes stay in there for a half hour to really get the effect and drain everything out. I'm getting worried that the anti-biotics that used to work in a few days now only work after a week or two, and that I need oral steroids (pregnasone) to really kick it out. Or a trip to Vegas.