hi...im using a natural kelp extract for my Iodine intake. its called organika,, thyodine.. starting at 8 drops...16drops= 125mg of kelp extract.
natural outrules synthetic.
anyone tried this?
sorry to burst your bubble but organic Iodine is not taken up by the body in sufficient quantities to be of any therapeutic use. it is I2, according to the most recent studies by abraham, flechas, et al, that is able to be absorbed and used by the body in a beneficial way. in fact, from what i can tell from my research so far, organic iodine IS toxic.
I just wanted to say here, that for eight days, while waiting for my detoxified iodine (which is made from organic Asian kelp), I took the brand "Standard Process" Organic Iodine tablets (one a day @ 3mg apiece).
After only 8 days, I went to niece's house (the one with two cats, and I was ALWAYS allergic to cats!) and spent 8 hours there.
I didn't have allergy symptom ONE! nothing - zip - nada
My link is NOT working correctly right now...hopefully it will sooner than later. I've already double-checked it for accuracy and it IS correct. There seems to be a problem with iodinesource.com.
when a person does something to benefit their health and it works, who can complain? thats what it is all about.
i find it extremely curious that, considering your stellar success, i have not seen one person, particularly those having trouble with other forms of iodine, post that they have gotten the "detoxified" Iodine from phil and report a turnaround. maybe i missed something, but that seems to me like a viable alternative with plenty of info in it. i am shocked, actually, at this trend.
That's why it's impossible to convert ANYONE. Information, no matter how good, to the skeptical and unwilling to listen, is as useful as as feathers to a fish. (OK, no cracks about flying fish now!!).
still, i want to know - has anyone else tried what you have been doing? with all this moaning about "i cant do lugols" and such, i wonder what people are waiting for. i know how bad it can be and how a person needs relief when they are ill, but when i tried something and it didnt work, i moved on and tried something else.
So you are saying that all of this time you did not know that I have been following in HoW's footprints and doing well on detoxified iodine? (refreshed 48124)
how and i go back a ways on another forum. in fact, i am the one who told her about the Iodine i was taking and the Iodine Forum and she took it from there. there are few posters more inspirational.
what i left out of my post is that once she has gotten some of the kinks worked out , she should be able to acheive full body sufficiency and could no doubt handle an entire gram of iodine every day if she chose. she probably wont need to. why? because she fasts. she is in charge of her own health and is effective in making progress. a woman after my own heart, for real.
You are also the one who spoke to me in the OP forum and talked me into iodine. Matter of fact we discussed Atomidine first and then magnified iodine. Long before you started Lugol's. (refreshed 48124)
Just a word of caution about the atomidine, now days it is Iodine trichloride, not like in the 1930's. One of the manufacturers (Baar)warns you not to take internally and to be very careful if you use it externally.
Cayce gave two recommendations of how to produce iodine. One is very easy it energizes the molecule and the second method (nascent iodine) more difficult, breaks the molecule into atoms through homolytic cleavage. Each atom has a 0 charge but is paramagnetic, having one electron in the outer shell. The large electromagnetic charge is what keeps it active in the body for two to three hours, and able to be active in the nascent state.
This information might help in how you use it.
Thanks for the input. I did well on all iodines that I tried. Lugol's had a more amplified feeling to it that I really liked but needed to switch to something not quite as strong due to some edema that I could not get rid of with Sea Salt and antioxidants. I then tried detoxified Iodine and am doing very well.
My body really needed iodine and I think any of these types helped. I'm hoping in time I can try the Lugol's again and see if my body can tolerate it better next time around. I'm hoping to get more of the bad halogens out since I didn't quite take my high dosage long enough last time around. I only made it to about a month and a half.
I have finally started falling asleep and waking up on time. I have more energy and my body temp is finally normal after being at 97.6 or under for years. I'm happy and more intune mentally. My nails are thicker causing my nail clippers to struggle and make a louder snapping sound when I use them. My breast are softer and less lumpy and painful. Better vision, skin and hair. The list goes on and on.
What do you like about your iodine? (refreshed 48124)
I like that it is so versital and doesn't take very much to do the job. I ususally take 5 drops morning and maybe another 5 midmorning or afternoon. When I over ate protein after St. Patties day I had a bit of gout. I felt it in the evening and wokeup with pain (slight though) and swelling in my foot. I took ten drops and by midmorning the pain was gone. Another 10 and by noon I had to re-tie my shoe as the swelling had gone down.
I have many friends who have used it for lots of illnesses.
The Detox that you are using is probably from Cayce reading 358-1 as well. I could not get Phil to tell me when he switched to 358-1 from 358-2 which he made for many years. When people have written to ask which he sold them, he will not answer and plays aloof or that he doesn't understand the difference because they are from Cayce readings whatever he sent.
It makes the Iodine more effective if you can use it as recommended in the 1930's I believe.
Yes, even though Phil was very nice when I emailed him, he would not answer my question directly about what is in the iodine. I remember reading something about using tobacco somehow in some of the Cayce readings? And I was wondering if it had any potassium in it because of how fast my edema cleared up when I started taking it. I normally do not take preparations that I don't know the ingredients of. But some others here shared their experience with it so I took a chance. (refreshed 48124)
The information about how to change to the more powerful state is in the reading, but what form of Iodine is not. Iodine trichloride was used because it was water soluble I suppose, even though not safe for consumption according to chemical safty sheets. Several years ago Steve Melissa suggested tincture of iodine 1 % iodine and 99 % alcohol. (Steve had tried iodine trichloride and though he was going to have a heart attack.) Tincture of iodine is what everyone that is making 358-1 and 358-2 is using to my knowledge, at least at this time.
I'm really not too sure how to read Phil. He seems quite quiet these days.
However, having said that - and with all the talk about the *DeeEeeAyy* and the future of *eye-oh-dine*, I am more than willing to with-hold all negative discussions about Phil because his product has done more for my health than anything in my entire life!
It was kind of funny reading Mr Nascent's post - as I also overate on meat - (just yesterday)! Boy, oh boy, did I ever! We went to a retirement "grilling out" party, at one of the guys' houses that works for my husband. Trailer on a lake. Two barbecue grills. An absolutely gorgeous day. A dock for fishing which kept my child busy ALL DAY! It was "the perfect day"....
There were 100% beef hamburgers and brats cooked on those grills. I just plain couldn't say no! Over the course of six hours, I literally ate 3 quarter pound hamburgers, and 2 large bratwursts! I try very hard to avoid cole slaw at the same time, (always made me "gassy") but it was the good stuff! I had to have some! Then I told myself, "OK, DON'T have a starch, too!" *sigh* But I gave in to the baked beans (OMG, they were so good) and some Lays potato chips AND some Cheetos! I always grabbed for the bottled water, however I did also indulge in half a can of Coca-Cola! (I was a very bad girl, but had a good time!)
I never once felt so full as to feel "disgusting", as I always have in the past. I did NOT have any hotdog or hamburger buns, as I am gluten-intolerant - and even if I ever come to find out that the gluten-intolerance is actually due to iodine-deficiency (which I suspect is true) the bread was Wonder-bread, and I will NOT knowingly put all that bromide into my body!
At 11:45pm last night, I also did another "no-no". That close to bedtime, I ate - however, the food of choice was to (hopefully) ensure a good "next-day" bowel movement. I had three raw carrots, using mashed-up avocado as a "dip".
I'm even on the 5-day period of time (day 2 of 5) that I am NOT taking iodine! I'm doing 8 drops twice daily ON for 10 days, and OFF for 5 days; (I plan to do this for at least 4 months) and I did NOT take "extra" Iodine after all that food.
My goodness, it's only 9am, and I've already "literally filled the porcelain throne" TWICE this morning. This just plain would NEVER have happened in the past. My body would've been in pain all day today, with me having to deal with the thought of working very hard at avoiding food at all costs (and probably failing miserably in the process). However, I feel no need to eat like that (like I did yesterday) today. I simply like "good food" and "good company" and yesterday involved both! A good bunch of people. Being on the lake. That doesn't happen very often.
So, the iodine I get from Phil MUST be a good product to work like it does. I did feel Led to it, I WAS led to it! I know this, because I was looking for something else at the time I found Phil's site! Trapper had posted stuff on another board I frequent, one (and a couple of days later another one) from Dr Abraham, and of course the now famous audio from Dr Flechas. Both endorse Iodoral, and I knew from my own history that I wanted to take a liquid, not a tablet.
Why not Lugol's? (After all, it's a liquid, but Trapper wasn't using Lugol's at that particular time - and I must say that I call that another comfirmation for ME not to use Lugol's, because I would trust Trapper with my LIFE!). You could say that my "head and heart" also said "no" to the Lugol's - but for me, it was that "still small voice". I found the detoxified iodine Phil sells, and I "just knew" that that was the stuff for MY particular body. Phil didn't even want to make it! He had researched Cayce's readings and found ARE's stuff to be inaccurately made and wanted to show them where they were making a mistake so THEY could correct it (or have their manufacturer correct it). They (in essence) threw him out on his ear! It was highly important to Phil that the iodine be made correctly and he was "forced" to do it on his own. He went through a lot of trouble to do this. We've had our talks on the phone, and he seems much at peace with life, saying that you cannot allow fear to rule you. Just doesn't sound like a person taking the wrong (or a toxic) product!!! He was always telling me, too, that as the iodine corrects the problems with your own body, you will "just know" when you can increase, you will "just know" when you've reached saturation, you will "just know" what's right for you...your decision-making processes become much more enhanced...so far...all this has happened to me, as well. Again, does not sound like a product that is toxic to the body!!!
Phil does seem to be a little more "distant" now than when I first started, but who knows? It could be because he recently got married! Or, just maybe "tptb" have got him "running" too! (But I don't believe he "fears" them! Perhaps he's just trying to stay "one step ahead" of them, and doesn't know WHO he can be open with anymore!) Maybe, just maybe, he's been doing this for so long and has seen such progress that his "egocentricity" is a bit involved...(that happens, ya know, to all of us, even me! *oh, say it isn't so!* LOL) I've seen a touch of "egocentricity" with the best of the best here on this board...even those who are near and dear to my heart - (and you KNOW who you are!) So maybe Phil has that "problem" too! Heck, we are all human; we want to be heard!
All I know, is that Phil's product works for me, and has literally saved my life. It is now working on my absolutely most aggravating and longterm problem that I've had for most of my life, (lack of good digestion) and I just plain cannot see changing my iodine of choice for anything else.
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But I am absolutely tickled to death that the other iodine formulas work so darn well for others! I've never been a "classic textbook case" most of my life, anyway! (I even had a chiropractor say that to me!) lol
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