I'm just going to make an observation here, instead of the support forum...
It makes me wonder, every time someone posts something on Iodine support forum, sounding very worried about the "protocol" and "doing it right."
Do we know of healthy people in this world who sit around fretting whether they have taken the correct amount of some supplement today? Do we know of happy, vibrant people who live long lives by carrying a scale and trying to make sure they get everything in proper amounts? I sure don't. What a miserable way to go about life sometimes. I'd even say it's the allopathic way. Gotta make sure you measure out those pills by the exact amount...nevermind that they can still kill you, with all those unknown interactions and effects.
I'd say we have something going for us: an innate intelligence that isn't about fretting over an external source telling us the exact amount. Many of us probably learned to squelch that intelligence and ignore it in exchange for external advice. This is unfortunate. I believe that intelligence is so vast that our normal consciousness can never grasp it. It's in tune with our body's needs. Maybe that's why my conscious brain seem to be way behind what my body "knows" to be true. You know what I mean...when we finally get around to validating what people seemed to know instinctually for years.
You could say the same of any other supplementation. It gets that way on the oil pulling support forum.
I think you both are right. We do need to relax but I think when people are very sick or have been very sick, for some, taking matters into their own hands is a risk. There is no one to blame it on if they mess up. I think deep down many may be expecting to fail...once more.
I came to CZ to ask the question, "Did I get MS due to a extremely heavy detox?" This is my mindset. I believe with all my heart that I did. I have every answer under the sun presented to me but in my heart I feel that my experience tells me yes. I'm listening to my inner self tell me this. How does that effect my use of iodine? It causes me to be careful with any supplement that causes great amounts of detoxing. I do believe that I was led here to use Iodine but I'm having to learn how to work around a very important life experience that in fact changed my life in a big way. Every person will approach iodine differently.
I think the biggest problem is that the fearful cause the knowledgable to lose their thoughts and distract them in their goal and that is to understand iodine to the fullest. It might be best to have certain people that are very gentle to help with fearful people and let the ones who's purpose is to gather information and present the facts get on with the task at hand. Everyone should know what God given talents and gifts they have been given by now and if not, they should pray and ask for understanding of what they are.
This forum is too valuable to not take seriously. This could very well have a major impact on generations to come and we have been given this special place in time to be a part of history. :) (refreshed 48124)
Wow, you truly are one very smart lady. I just wanted you to know, that I saw how a friend of mine here talked to you. You're right, he has a definite goal, and I believe you "hit the nail on the head" about him and his goals and not wanting to be distracted from them.
However, he has admitted that if he started Iodine a couple of years back when he was terribly ill, he might not have been able to handle it. (I don't remember his exact words.)
For what it's worth, I mentioned to him recently that I almost "kicked his butt" over some of his posts on the debate forum. He told me I'm one of the few who can (or will) so it's all good. We've been (internet) friends for (I think it's) over 7 years now, and I should know by now that I can tell him straight out to take it easy. What I should have done, is come to your defense at the time of the occurrence...you were not treated fairly...and I apologize for that!
Like I said, you're one very smart lady - and I might add - quite observant, quite forgiving, and can see through all the bravado!
some people got in the crossfire between myself and the troll 23. the problem was people taking 23 at face value and then people reacting to what i was saying to them(23). if this troll could screw things up trying to get rid of them, imagine if they had been let go to form relationships(albeit anonymous and brief), then the real damage could be done. i would rather look like a bad guy than allow that to happen. my focus was sharp, my aim was true. those who wandered into the crossfire, or worse, tried to take a bullet for this person out of the kindness of their heart, were bound to get hit. the bottom line was that people wouldnt mind their own business and i wouldnt explain things to them because it would give away what i was doing with the troll. trolls are the last people i want to educate.
war is hell. the battle for truth rages intensely here on the zone. unfortunate, but there is not much one can do. there are many that count on the info here. the theme is "educating instead of medicating" not "disinfo to prevent healing."
one other thing by way of explaination. i make it a point NOT to get personal with most people. they are rank strangers to me. this way, i give what i know in response to questions that i can answer without any bias. i am only human and can only keep track of so much. knowledge is a heavy responsibility. nobody is perfect.
on a personal note, it amazes me that i can have such a long record on curezone - a real known factor, yet some person comes along posting anonymously with a made up persona and personal objective that runs counter to the zone, and it is automatically assumed that it is me who is way off base and over-reacting and misunderstanding and reading too much into it, etc, etc. i had two people come to my aid(besides moderators). to them(you know who you are), thank you. to everyone else - please forgive me as i forgive you.
Trapper, I have only been aquainted with CZ for the past 3+ months and was so excited I found it! I started Lugol's on March 1 and won't go into all the particulars at this time, other than to say I'm so very thankful that from sharing info gathered on this forum I have 2 daughters, 2 sisters, an uncle, and 2 cousins taking Lugol's. I wish it was an MLM!!!!! Anyway, after reading and learning, and becoming so excited, all of a sudden there appeared someone (23 Psalm) that caused my spirit to react with red flags. It went on and on, and everywhere I'd read I thought, what is this person trying to do? I thought, if this is what's going to happen, deliberate arguements, contention, an effort to destroy, I'm going to take what I've learn and get out of here! Thanks God I don't have to, and thank God for all you people who have shared your knowledge and experience for those of us who, maybe by accident found this wonderful place to come and learn and be encouraged to search out and try natural ways to get well. Bless all of you. (the Iodine forum)
And I thank you very much for forgiving me. I am, and shall always try to be, a peacemaker. However, there was something KEEPING me OUT of that conversation! It bothered me so much that I didn't come to Refreshed's aid at that time. I now know it was God.
You see, I finally learned to see through it all, too (unfortunately AFTER coming to the troll's defense at a time, maybe two)...but I was at a loss as to how to "uncover" that person as a true troll. The trolling became SO plain to me.
I am NOT good at war. Never was. Never will be. But I did begin to see through it all.
OK, OK, so you're a pretty smart cookie.
You sir, have my utmost respect. (I am VERY glad that "Refreshed" realized some things about you even before I did).
I love roller coasters. It's the rides that go back and forth and 'round and 'round that I have a LOT of trouble with!
on this forum, i am surrounded by smart cookies. it tends to buoy me at a higer level than i would normally. you cant soar with eagles while flying with turkeys(the dumb domesticated ones, not the smart wild ones that cruise through my property.)
"I think the biggest problem is that the fearful cause the knowledgable to lose their thoughts and distract them in their goal and that is to understand Iodine to the fulless. It might be best to have certain people that are very gentle to help with fearful people and let the ones who's purpose is to gather information and present the facts get on with the task at hand. Everyone should know what God given talents and gifts they have been given by now and if not, they should pray and ask for understanding of what they are."
I really like this paragraph. It is so true, and so aware of others and where they might be in their health journey.
yep, the snobby Iodine studs (aka, Punkanel and Crapper) lead the way. that board drove me away. stick to the research thats out there, not the forum. its no longer a "support" forum. its a cult club for iodine junkies only.
be careful. you might need an intervention at some point. i hope you know not to inject the stuff, but then again, every junkie escalates their "fix" method...
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