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  • Curezone Mosh Pit of 371 by  rudenski  7 year  2,016     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE  Webmaster Support
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    • Re: Curezone Mosh Pit19 by  unyquity  7 year  1,214     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
      • one-size-fits-all?20 by  rudenski  7 year  1,357     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
        • Re: one-size-fits-all?   21 to 37 of 3721 by  unyquity  7 year  1,270
          Hmmm, I agree to a point...but there's certain information that would damage the bodies of 99.9% percent of humans, if followed and taken to heart:

          http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=626&i=27738#i

          Vegetables are WRONG MINERALS and most worthless for nutrition.

          There is no such thing as the consumption of B12, it is NEVER an eatable thing.

          Weight? "IF" you loose weight while eating fruit, the loss was toxic to you and the fruits are saving your life.

          Example: there's someone with an extreme parasite or candida infection or metabolic disorder taking this to heart, stuffing down fruit, and losing weight rapidly...and they think it's because of TOXINS? How much weight does that person have to lose before you'd consider alternative health not to be a "one size fits all" thing?

          I feel very strongly that the entity of Curezone has a very real responsibility to prevent those who are advising others from saying harmful lies.

          Unyquity

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      • Re: Curezone Mosh Pit22 by  finallyfaith  7 year  1,327
        because thats a matter of opinion. 2tuff literally threatened to kill someone. thats not a matter of opinion as the whether thats out of hand, it IS out of hand.

        but MH's health advice really and truly IS a matter of opinion, its his opinion vs. yours. now lest you think i am defending his occasionally crazy ramblings as good advice, no i am not. i don't visit that forum at all. but i defend his right to give his opinion. how can you institute a unified health philosophy across the board on curezone? montior each and every post by every person and delete all those that don't conform to a long list of authorized health protocols and advice? its just not doable, besides being very cencorship-like.

        as i said before, with the private forums, its all or nothing. you can't go in there and start micromanaging what these forum owners can and cannot say. unless of coures they give advice like drinking paint is a cure-all or something. you have to allow the leaway for the forum owners, and everyone else for that matter, to give bad advice in and amongst the good, that what a "health freedom" site is all about. you the individual has to take responsibility and decide for yourself.

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        • Re: Curezone Mosh Pit *+edits*23 by  unyquity  7 year  1,353
          Oooh, I had no idea we were talking death threats...yowzah! My bad, for SURE!

          'Seems to me like there could be a couple of moderators *or all the moderators* that had a little 'zinger thingy' (like the R R/N thing) that would indicate that someone on Curezone feels that the information in a particular post might contain harmful misinformation.

          Implementing something like that should be relatively easily...and moderators already R R/N posts where they think the information is good.

          Shouldn't potentially harmful information be noted in SOME way?

          And think of all the conflict that would disappear overnite if it was!!

          *And that's not censorship, that's just adding to an opinion :) I don't like censorship!*

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          • Re: For Entertainment Purposes Only24 by  Hidden Username  7 year  1,327
            The forum owner in question makes a point of saying all he writes is for entertainment purposes only. He might advise people to graze on grass and sit naked in a hole, but he also posted a picture of his son's birthday cake, a confection of Crisco, white flour and powdered sugar. I rarely visit the forum, but I take everything written with a grain of salt. Sometimes I wonder if he doesn't make some of his more outrageous posts to see who will agree to anything they read.

            Personally, I find the most helpful information comes from health seekers like you and I are. You have helped and advised me far more than any "expert" forum owner. Another person I deeply respect is Owen who always challenges us to see if anything he suggests resonates. I have learned to look within and question the method, the science, and my instinct before trying something new. Last week I went against my instincts and am still weak from a poor choice. I don't blame anyone for what happened though, it was my responsibility to determine the logic of my actions and I did not do that I acted too hastily out of desperation when something was promised to relieve pain. Ultimately, we must all take responsibility for the choices we make and the words we write both as advice and as opinions.

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            • Re: For Entertainment Purposes Only25 by  trapper/kcmo  7 year  1,252
              i came here after scouring the web and being familiar or experienced with most of the things on this site. i stopped here and do very little searching any more primarily because of MH. certainly, i appreciate all the participants at curezone, but no one has the focus of mh. his ideal of obey nature is perfect. that none of us, including him, is perfect is without question - look at the world we live in.

              people poopoo what mh says and i just laugh. he is not the only one with a following here, as you just pointed out. i have seen people give adoration to shelly and andreas and owen, as i have myself. where is the belittlement of that? believe me, i have found error in something that every single one of the above mentioned have said. and i have seen blind obedience to same that was not only unwarranted but in the face of much evidence to the contrary.

              mh thinks colloidal silver is crazy - i like it and have seen nothing to disway me, yet. mh thinks there is little value in certified organic food - my experience is quite contrary to that. otherwise, these things being made fun of that he has said - i see it. i have to wonder why others dont, or dont want to?

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              • Re: For Entertainment Purposes Only26 by  Hidden Username  7 year  1,277
                I am not going to either defend or belittle MH, there has been more than enough of both. I guess its all a matter of perception. To me, a lot of what he advocates is not obeying nature, its denying it. One question I have always wanted to ask him, but won't because I don't want a sarcastic answer is why if all food is poison and man was meant to live on nothing but fresh air and sunshine, do we have such an intricate and complex digestive system? I believe we were created to consume food for energy, growth and reproduction. I also believe vegetables are healthy, they are body builders, while fruits tend to be cleansers. Logically, we need both cleansing and rebuilding to live a long and healthy life.

                By the way, I have been wanting to ask you about colloidal silver. I want to try it, but do not want to invest in making it at this time. What is a good kind to buy? The Herbal Healer Academy in Mt. Home or Mt. View Arkansas (I forget which one) advertises colloidal silver at 500 parts per million, is that normal, high, good or bad. I want to try it for chronic sinus infections.

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                • Re: For Entertainment Purposes Only27 by  trapper/kcmo  7 year  1,220
                  you must remember that when MH is speaking, he is always working from the premise that we were initially breatharians and that this is the primary state in which we might live an indeterminant amount of time(the body that is). the further away from this state man chooses to go, the shorter his lifetime has become.

                  the bible can be read to support this without any difficulty other than the will not to believe. just because the human body is able to process food and derive energy from it does not necessarily mean that this is the best state of being. we are able to use our bodies to make more people or kill people. because we are capable of both, should we do both?

                  when god introduced adam to the garden, he presented fruit as a choice - he was not commanded to eat anything. after the fall, the lord added herbs, for the spiritual errors of man would surely have physical ramifications, and they did. up until the time of noah, those who stayed fruitarian lived up to almost 1000 years. it wasnt until after the flood that men began to eat to live. something happened to our atmosphere. the waters in the heavens had fallen to the point that clear sky could be seen, and rainbows.

                  noah continued his frutarianism as the husbandman of a vineyard. very few have come near to following in his footsteps.

                  today, breatharianism is an ideal much more than any possible reality. i am not saying it is impossible, but it would take the kind of discipline and self control that is seen in the rarest of athletes or artists. not an every day thing at all. but it really helps to see what is best and do what we can to attain as close to that as life now allows, whatever the reason for our compromises.

                  isnt it amazing that original sin included both eating and sexual awareness?


                  about CS, 500ppm is way too high to be effective or maybe safe either. you want clear ionic electro processed CS with no more than 30-50ppm, 10-15ppm being better. it must contain nothing but pure silver in pure distilled water. anything called a protein - avoid. anything that has color to it should also be avoided, especially if it is home made. there are some commercial brands that have some color but are OK. if you are going to spend any money at all, i say spend it on a couple ounces of silver and make it yourself. get the rectangle bars instead of the rounds, unless you go deluxe and get maple leafs, which are a little more pure than the rest, and cost about twice as much or more.

                  poke around the CS forum.

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                • Re: For Entertainment Purposes Only28 by  lightbringer  7 year  1,258
                  Madame Hopinso,
                  If you would like to give your address to Madame Unyquity,so she can relay it to me. I will send you a quart of CS at 15-26 ppm for you to try. However I will not tell you how much to take,as I am not familar with your condition. I take it daily as a preventive,so that I don't come down with some illness.
                  Please have a great week.
                  Sincerely I C L

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          • Re: Curezone Mosh Pit *+edits*34 by  trapper/kcmo  7 year  1,285
            i am one of the ones he threatened and i think he should be posting here.

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