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  • Giving space on occasions   BSA by  Telman  6 year  6,488  Liver Flush Support
    In my years of chronic illness I have been blessed to count as true friends a few altruistic individuals who have spent time with me to explain and explore possible cures. These people are my support group and they include medical professionals, curezoners, and family. I have tried different treatments from convention sources like taking pills such as antidepressants (because they increase the pain threshold) and I have even been prescribed narcotics. Whilst all these ‘pill’ therapies appear to work in the short time, they have also inflict hidden damage within my organs. I was always on the lookout for an instant cure and this made me vulnerable the world of alternative therapies and quackery. I have tried many therapies and those that had a beneficial effect I have kept and others have been discarded. I have used massage, physiotherapy regimes, exercise and diets; that’s the nature of finding a cure. What works for some one doesn’t work for everyone even if they appear to have the same symptoms and signs.

    I have benefited greatly from the Liver Flush protocol but I have never found it harmful or addictive. Liver flushing is the best therapy I have encountered to eradicate my gallbladder pain and it also appears to have had other benefits in alleviating my fibromyalgic symptoms, allowing me to exercise, clearing my head and enabling me to sleep better. My medical doctor is astounded at the positive progress I have made over the last two years.

    However, I learnt from another great healer, a pain management psychologist that it is also just as important to change the mind as well as the body.

    Your chronic illness, the fact that you just don’t ever feel right or are ever conscious of your body may make ordinary exchanges with others become a real challenge. When things we try don’t work out our path can be a downward spiral of despair leading to loneliness and isolation. This leads to frustration and anger if we are not careful over time we start to hate the world. Be very alert to the use of language because words reveal the inner self and may show distorted thinking. Telling someone else that they dumb just because something doesn’t work out for you shows that the inner dialogue has taking control. Saying something is harmful and addictive to people that care and avoid the addictive nature of medication is a sign of deep internal unrest. We all need to deal with the psychological issue which we often refer to as the spiritualism side.

    Alternatively, I also think we need to recognise the anger and frustration caused by chronic health problems and on occasions give people some space to vent their feelings and opinions. We are supposed to be a caring and understanding forum and we should listen and well as speak. The last word in an argument isn't necessarily the best word.

    The liver-flush therapy stands on its own merit and there are many testaments to its successes. It is going to have its opponents, proponents, zealots and antagonists. We all draw the line at BAITING people, personal insult, reckless theories, misleading advice, and bad language but I sometimes think we may get a little overprotective.

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    • Re: Giving space on occasions by  plzchuckle  6 year  3,451
      amen and AMEN.

      The basics ... PURE water ... mucusless diet ... cleansing ... from there, there are so many things that work for some and not for others. We are individuals.

      Anybody with cronic illness needs to start with the basics and do self-experimentation from there.

      I know within days of trying a supplement if it's working for me because I listen to my body.

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    • Re: Giving space on occasions by  fledgling  6 year  3,352
      Thank you, Telman.

      Thank you for searching for answers, and for sharing your findings so openly, thoughtfully, and sincerely.

      Appreciation must be said aloud...and often, not only for incentive but to signal confirmation of good ideas to other and future readers.

      Forums such as this are limited simply because they are 'conversations', questions and answers that are temporarily highly visible, then vanish into the depths of 'archives' and memory...silently raising awareness in those who caught the meaning at the moment.

      The 'R' messages save much important information, but we'd do better if we had some kind of summarization. I don't know what form that could take. Perhaps there could be a forum where those who have studied, tested, and come to hard-won conclusions, tell.

      And/or, where the rest of us tell what we tried, and our results.

      Librarians and researchers, put on your thinking caps!

      As I see it, 'anecdotal' information is where it's at. That's the true frontier. Mankind will sink or swim on the efforts of folks like you, Telman.

      I want to say the screen-names of others I admire and appreciate, but I'd surely miss some.

      Even when I am not posting, your findings are actively guiding my own research and healing.

      Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

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    • Well said! n/m by  LNdolls  6 year  3,191     Reply   FCK   TinyMCE
    • Re: Giving space on occasions by  San2006  6 year  3,376
      Hey Telman:
      I think you are a great and knowledgeable guy. And I seriously hope u are feeling better with all these flushes. If not, its time to change strategies to fight a problem. Hope u have found the underlying cause of your GB problems.

      With all my reading an trying different protocols, one thing I have found is, there are no are magic bullets/cure alls. A combination of protocols work in getting vibrant health. We just cannot bank on one single protocol. And moderation is called for....

      I hope you are taking time off from these flushes. You have had enough.

      take care

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