Well, what a story. I wish I could say that I don't relate, but alas . . . Sorry, you have had to suffer the symptoms and the mystery on top of it. I am getting better, but there are limits, still. I can walk down the detergent isle in the grocery store without being sick for days, in fact, it is still very unpleasant and hurts, but doesn't linger after I leave. Some carpet is easier to handle, but smoke, fabric softener on clothes, many printed inks, and diesel make me want to cut my head off.
My goal is being able to work anywhere I want for as long as I want. The only person that I know that has our illness that can work in an office building takes the foundational formulas quarterly. She is the person who introduced me to Dr. Schulze .
I think I said before, the foundational formula #2 Natural Cell. Defense were revolutionary for me. Really improving brain fog, energy, neurological and muscular symptoms and lessening chemical sensitivities. Now the l/gb and the k/b are the heros, especially k/b! I have started taking a break from the cleanse for the last day or so. I find that I need to take one dropperful of both the l/gb and the k/b tonic. The l/gb takes away the orange color that keeps coming back when I stop taking the tinctures. The k/b helps with any aches in the back and really makes my face look glowy again and returns the normal rosy color to the face, lips, and makes the eyes brighter. I am hoping that once I am done with all the l/gb and k/b cleanses that I need (along with the F2 and NCD), I will be able to tolerate toxins (while still avoiding them as best as I can).
Should I be concerned that I need to take the tinctures still? Is it okay to keep taking them? I was feeling the need to stop the detox teas, etc., and build up my system. I did notice that the digestive issues that lingered went away, like you said. Will this jaundice issue also subside?
It would seem obvious to run to the doctor and have all the tests done, but I have had so many tests done and suffered so much abuse, which was very nearly fatal, at the hands of so many docs., that unless I know exactly what treatment I want from the dr., I don't want to get entangled. I do have some fabulous dr.s now, but it took a long time to find them and develop safe working relationships with them.
BTW: you said that one of the diagnosis was "ME." I am unfamiliar with that term.
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I dont see any harm in taking the tinctures for a long time. The real problem that you have it sounds like the liver is having trouble in re using/cleaning the red blood cells. which is a basic liver function -- but needs to be done. drs. do measure that in blood tests.
mine is a bit raised at "19" the safe number is anything less that "17". dont entirely know how they measure it, but one the temp Drs. told me this a couple of months back as part of a blood test I had done.
This is a seriuos enough issue but long as you do keep doing the cleanses I think you will get a lot better but it takes so much time. Dr.S said that he has had poeple taking echinacea for a year and more and they have not suffered at all.There are no problems taking tinctures for long periods.I am still trying to get well after 7 years of taking the stuff.But I have had 1 1/2 years in remission in the middle.
Schulzes tinctures are the strongest on the market, no one else comes close when you are really ill.There are 2 other poeple on curezone that I have read would agree 'Discoman' and 'raider'.
CFS/ME are the same thing just that some poeple call it by a different name. (Some will argue that they are not the same symptom wise)
Tiggs
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I am not sure if or how you make Parsley Tincture. I got mine from healmarketplace.com. it is labelled as Parsley root and it is a whitish liquid. If you want more info. look at that site. I will look at the members area to see what is entailed in making it. Email me if you want more info.
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The parsely Tincture is the strongest edible form of herbal medicine to take. But you can still make up a strong tea if it simmered slowly - the darker the better . Tincture is there for when you cant get Parsly locally. or not enough.
I have just made my Parsely Tincture ( for thr first time) and the smell of Chorolform is really strong. I will find out how strong when I filter it in 30 days.
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Making tinctures is easy. You need some pure alcohol, large glass jar( and lid) and a blender.
You put the dry herb mix in blender. (how much is up to you) then you need to cover herbs with about 60% of it with alcohol up the side of the jar. You blend for about one minute, but till most of herb is broken down.
Then leave it in large glass jar in somewhere cool and out of direct sunlight. then 30 days later ( no less) you strain it. (On the Healmakretplace they say you can shake the jar everyday and it can produce a stronger tincture.)
I use muslin (as it is so thin) over a funnel and store it in brown glass bottle/s to use whenever you need it. Really squeeze all of it out. it can stain things so mind what you use.
I choose to go by the lunar cycles in the belief that there is more pull ( or strenght) in when you pick the herb from the ground. The rule is on new moon MAKE the tincture, and then on FULL moon strain the mix.
There is no specified shelf life, as these tinctures can be around for many years as the alcohol is such a stable medium to use. I try to use most of mine in 2-3 yrs to get the most out of it all and keep everything at max potency then renewing them every 2-3 yrs.
hope this helps
Thank you so much!!! I am wanting to make my own tinctures. I have the herbs to make th digestive, heart and Liver/gall bladder tinctures. Well almost everything. I don't have the cactus grandiflorus for the heart tincture. All I can find it in is the tincture form and I am not sure how to add it yet. I am wanting to make the tooth one but I am not sure how to tincture bark. I think I have oak galls as we have oak trees.So on the parsley do you dry the herbs first??Thank you so much for your help.
Yagatha
Glad to help others. if it improves your knowledge base then that has to good and realise the amount of self made medicines that are possible is SUCH a saving in the end.
I have been sticking with the L/GB and the K/B tinctures and teas. As you know from this long thread that I started with the full liver protocol then the full kidney protocol. Now I am generally taking one or two droppersful of the L'GB tincture a day, because I have jaundice issues. (To be honest, now, I don't know for sure if it was an issue since the first liver flush. I think actually there were slight symptoms before hand. Only when I take the tincture, my skin looks normal in color and really radient.) I also take the K/B detox tea, and the k?b tincture. Maybe one or two glasses a day.
I still have some pains in my mid back area. Edema if I dont drink the teas. I have been having pretty intense head aches on either side but not both, but I feel like it is a detox issue and that I really can't go much slower than I am on the detox. Of course, I COULD, but I am willing to see this through right now.
I have been having hayfever symptoms with the KB detox tea. Very itchy eyes. My eyes tear and sting.
Anyway, two nights ago I ate a spicy okra dish and a chicken korma dish. Okra is supposed to be good for the liver detox.
Within five minutes or so, I got completely congested in my nose, my eyes were itchy and I got sort of spacy and tired. This didn't go away, even the next morning I was congested. I also had really painful forearms, almost like restless leg syndrome, but it felt almostlike the bones hurt. I kept on having to hit them to alieviate the pain. Finally, I took a bunch of magnesium and potassium and it helped the arms.
Then, mid morning I ate the leftovers and the symptoms intensified and then broke. I was no longer congested and the itchiness left. A few hours later I tasted the very last of the left overs, eating one ingredient at a time, the cashew, the chicken, the onion, the okra, to see what sort of reaction I would get.
Nothing caused me to react. I have not had the allergy symptoms since. I have had one cup of the kb detox tea today and no reaction at all. I was tired the entire next day and my back was really tight. It was the muscles this time and not the kidneys. My skin looked pretty good without taking any tinctures and took the tea in the evening.
Then, just now, I drank a TBS of Epsom Salt (I am going to do a single Liver Flush tonight) in a cup of water and I got stuffed up slightly and a tiny itch in my eye. Then about ten minutes later, this left. But I also got really tired and a bit spacy, which didn't go away. Also a bit of a head ache on left side.
So I am hoping that this episode broke the allergy reactions. I guess the okra and the spice helped?
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