[b]
Animal products kill more people annually in the US than
tobacco, alcohol, traffic accidents, war, domestic violence,
guns, and drugs combined. USAMRID wrote that consumption of pig flesh caused the world's most lethal pandemic in WW1,
euphemistically called flu. Anthrax
used to be called wool sorters'
disease. Smallpox used to be called
cow pox or kine pox because of
its origin in animal flesh.
.[/b]
revised Aug 25, 2007
WHAT'S IN A BURGER? BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS (AS WELL AS BIOTERRORISM)
[b]POISONS IN ANIMAL AND FISH FLESH... A PARTIAL LIST[/b]
[i]
[i] decided to categorize these in alphabetical order [/i]
acidification diseases
addiction (to trioxypurines)
adrenalin (secreted by terrorized
animals before and during slaughter)
[b]ANTIBIOTICS[/b] (too many to list) (crowded factory farm animals standing in their own feces are often infected)
[BACTERIA[/b]
creiophilic bacteria survive
the freezing of animal flesh
thermophilic bacteria survive
the baking boiling and roasting
bacteriophages (viruses FDA allows to
be injected)
blood
[b]BSE DISEASES, PRIONS IN SPECIES[/b]
Mad Chicken
Mad Cow [url]http://www.madcowboy.com[/url]
Mad Deer [url]http://www.maddeer.org[/url]
Mad Elk
Mad Fish in factory farms given bone meal from many species
Mad Pig
Mad Sheep
[b]CARCINOGENS BY THOUSANDS[/b]
(concentrated at rates of 1000 to 1
to their presence in water)
. free radicals
. malanaldehyde created when animal fat and protein
are heated over 300 degrees
. methylcholanthrene """
. microwave carcinogens are even more lethal
. colon bacteria (ecoli).. animals defecate
all over themselves in terror
[b]DISEASES THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF ZOONOTIC DISEASES[/b]
alcoholism (yang animal flesh and yin alcohol crave each other)
Alzheimer's (from cerebral artery
blockage by amyloid plaque and animal fat)
anaphylactic shock from shellfish etc.
anthrax (Wool Sorter's Disease)
appendicitis (no fiber flesh putrefies in intestinal tract)
blindness from animal fat in capillaries
cancers of many kinds
chicken pox
food poisoning
gynecomastia (swelling of male
breasts which can lead to cancer)
heart attacks (animal fat, amyloid
plaque, uric acid, calcium deposits
block heart, cerebral, reproductive and all arteries)
hepatitis (coprophagous or wasteeating shellfish)
immune deficiency diseases (meat is a
corpse withbacteria, viruses, worms
impotence animal fat in penile arteries & capillaries
kidney dysfunction carnivores have 5 times human kidney size
per lb.
listeria
mononucleosis (a rare meat disease)
obesity Ivy league research found that vegans weigh 23 lbs
less than nonvegetarians in isocaloric studies
osteoporosis
senility ... animal fat, amyloid plaque and uric acid in cerebral
arteries and capillaries
smallpox (originally called kine pox)
sterility caused by high DDT etc in nonvegetarian sperm
strokes.. animal fat in cerebral arteries and capillaries
toxoplasmosis.. disease of uncooked meat
tularemia
feces of cows, flies etc.
[b]FEMALE HORMONES[/b]
many varieties.. banned by EU
[b]FOOD COLORINGS[/b]
red dye, many varieties
heterocyclic amines
[b]INSECTICIDES BY HUNDREDS[/b]
ddt
dioxin
malathion (L Hill: the bigger the fish, the more little fish he's eaten)
[b]METALS[/b]
arsenic
cadmium
chromium
lead
mercury causes brain damage..
1000 times more concentrated
in fish flesh than sea water
tin etc.
mucus
[b] OLD MEAT BREAKDOWN AGENTS]/b]
monosodium glutamate
[b]POLLUTANTS[/b]
benzopyrene (from charcoal broiling)
pbb's
polychlorinated biphenols
[b]PRESERVATIVES[/b]
sodium benzoate
[b] RESIDUE IN ARTERIES [/b]
amyloid plaque.. byproduct
of animal protein causes senility
animal fat causes heart attacks
strokes aneurisms blindness
calcium excess.. crystallizes...
is visible as white deposits
trioxypurine .. pre urine or uric acid
crystallizes in needle formation
radiation poisoning
(from irradiation and
from nuclear waste)
trichinella worms and many other kinds
of worms
trioxypurine.. pre-urine, uric acid .. causes arthritis and lines heart and all arteries
[b]NOT IN MEAT OR FISH[/b]
no vitamin C
no natural fiber
Diseases of Food Animals by Owen
Parrett, MD lists some of the thousands
of zoonotic diseases (diseases which
can be transmitted by eating animal
or fish flesh)
NIH lists only 246 of the carcinogens
in the environment and food
[/i]
I INTRINSIC IN ALL ANIMAL FLESH
. THE BLOOD is called juice after its chemical nature changes from
cooking.
. SWEAT OR PRE URINE OR URIC ACID or trixoypurine.. more addictive
than caffein (dioxypurine). It is the primary cause of arthritis and
rigidity as it crystallizes into needles jabbing the joints. Uric
acid would have been eliminated by the animal's muscle cells had she
not been butchered. Carnivores have 5 times the kidney size
per pound of body weight.
. THE FECES poured out by terrorized animals has traces of ecoli or
colon bacteria.. not only their own waste but that of other cows on
which they often slip as they are being skinned alive at Iowa Beef
Processors or other sites. Dr. John Harvy Kellogg, affiliated in the
last century with Kellogg cereals found that after a few hours ecoli
(colon or intestinal bacteria) can multiply into the billions. As
trillions
of gallons of fecal matter are dumped into the waterways,
ecoli or colon bacteria based infections are coming to
vegetarians as well as nonvegetarians. The proximity of swinging
hanging cadavers causes ecoli and other diseases to be transmitted
to other cadavers.
[url]http://groups.msn.com/robertatkins/1.msnw[/url]
SENILITY (AND STERILITY)
. ALzheimer's Disease is caused by ALcohol, cooking with ALuminum,
and the amyloid plaque in ALl animal protein,
amyloid plaque which builds up
in the brain interfering with function. (Mercury destruction
of memory is not intrinsic to meat but added.)
. The animal fat in meat clogs cerebral arteries.
(Wm Shakespeare in "Twelfth Night": "He is a heavy eater of beef.
Methinks it doth harm to his wit." )
. Lancet, the British medical magazine, found that
Mad Cow is sometimes diagnosed as dementia.
TV shows have broadcast open heart
surgery operations in which long
yellow ropes of animal fat (cholesterol)
are pulled out of the heart and
arteries.
ADRENALIN OR EPINEPHRINE is secreted in massive amounts by
captive helpless terrorized animals who hear the screams of
their fellows while they stand in the slaughterhouse line
or in open slatted slaughterhouse trucks in the freezing cold
of winter.. as trucks rip through mountain passes.. or
the suffocating heat of summer. Dr Loving at Ohio State has
found that humans who fight have high adrenalin blood levels
even 22 hours later. Animal fright hormones saturate the blood
and muscle cells of animals. These hormones are protein enzymes
some of whose links are broken by cooking. Many remain intact
recreating the anger in those who consume the flesh. Adrenalin
is unreleased tears.
It is the ingestion of anger, terror, and agony. Such meat
adrenalin has been correlated to violence. A recent Maryland prison
study reported reduced violence in those eating vegetables. Ingesting
meat causes the body to be a constant state of unnatural alert.
[url]http://www.egroups.com/messages/teachnonviolence[/url]
. ANGER see above
. DESPAIR AND DEPRESSION see above
. VIOLENCE.. see above
. RAPE Alaska has led the nation in sexual abuse and in ingestion
of animal protein. Factors are adrenalin, female hormones
which stimulate unnatural sexual response given to animals etc.
. NO VITAMIN C
C is in no animal products.. It speeds up the flow of brain snyapse
messages and promotes connective tissue in the skin, said two time
Nobel Laureaute Linus Pauling, who
defined an orthomolecule as a molecule in fruit. C is a toxin
bouncer. C should be consumed within the bulk of fruit, or
in a buffered state, or with food.
[url]http://www.all-natural.com/riley.html[/url]
. NO FIBER..
. THE ANIMAL FAT, AMYLOID PLAQUE, CALCIUM PLAQUE AND URIC ACID CRYSTALS IN ARTERIES CAUSE HEART ATTACKS
Animal fat clogs the arteries causing heart attacks and strokes,
which are the single major cause of death in the world. Meat deaths
per year outdo alcohol, tobacco, and accidents combined. It is not
just the animal fat in meat which causes this,
but the uric acid (trioxypurine) is an unnatural stimulant, as is
the adrenalin enzyme. Adrenalin mobilizes the body for fight or
flight.
Meateating puts the body in a constant state of stress. Televized open heart surgeries show long yellow ropes of
animal fat being pulled out of arteries.
. CANCER
Countries with the highest meat consumption have the highest rates
of
intestinal cancer. Canada, Australia, the US, Argentina, and Chile
are some of these. Meat has no natural bulk and
causes a constipation which leads to total blockage.
. OVERWEIGHT:
a. Dr Mervyn Hardinge working at an Ivy League university
found that vegans weigh 23 lbs. less than nonvegetarians while dairy
vegetarians weigh 12 lbs. less.
Fruitarians weighed least. In the 3 month isocaloric study, the groups
were all given the same number of calories per day. The increased
bulk and lack of constipating flesh in vegetarian and vegan diets is
a factor.
b. The milk of cows is designed to produce a thousand pound animal.
c. The lack of fiber in animal products causes constipation and
retained calories.
. ANTHRAX, SMALLPOX (COW POX), TULAREMIA
and other forms of bioterrorism all originate in the consumption of
animal flesh or contact with their skins (hides, leather making,
woolsorters' disease) The USDA which protects the multi trillion
dollar
meat industry while attempting to prevent diversity in fruit seeds
from entering the country attributes only 700 deaths in animals to
anthrax last year (500 in Texas) while virtually only NBC reported
the anthrax in November 2001 in 21 California cows. (Author of 9
books Leonard Horowitz writes that the CIA gave Battelle of Columbus
Ohio 1 billion dollars to develop weaponized anthrax.)
SONGLESSNESS
Susan Miller, voice specialist with Georgetown Univ Hosp (a
vivisecting institution) has spoken of the rigidity of vocal chords
caused by dioxypurine (caffeine). Trioxypurine (uric acid in meat)
is even more damaging.
DINOCOCCUS RADIODURANS: According to NPR in December of 2002, a
dinococcus radiodurans
can survive within meat though irradiated.
ACIDITY Many diseases of acidity are related to acidification
of the body from acid foods. Gastrointestinal acid reflux
has been called by some gastroenterologists a product of fast food.
ECOLI OR COLON BACTERIA When animals are butchered Dr John Harvey
Kellogg MD found their colon bacteria or ecoli could multiply
by the billions in a few hours. Now ecoli from slaughterhouses,
feedlots, and farms is filling the streams of the world. Not
only food poisoning deaths but ear infections and immune problems
are a result.
TOXIN BOUNCERS:
Vitamin C
chelation
sunshine
exercise
prayer and positive thought
If you want to wade in to the waters
of compassion instead of jumping
[url]http://www.meatout.org/MeatoutMondays/[/url]
"Animal products kill more people annually in the
US than tobacco, alcohol, traffic accidents, war, domestic violence, guns, and
drugs combined. USAMRID wrote that consumption of pig flesh caused the world's
most lethal pandemic in WW1, euphemistically called flu. Anthrax used to be
called wool sorters' disease. Smallpox used to be called cow pox or kine pox
because of its origin in animal flesh."
Grains kill more people in the U. S. than any other product. And that
includes the corn syrup that is in almost every refined product you eat,
particularly "low fat" products. Our bodies are not designed for
either grains or refined food. We emerged from hunter gatherer societies
where the primary food source was meat. We followed the animals in their
annual migrations and didn't settle down and become sick until we began
agriculture.
Cancer has been found in dinosaurs. How do you explain that?
Cancer has been found in dinosaurs. How do you explain that?
What kind of dinosaurs? Were they the carnivorous type or herbivorous? Based on your post I would guess they were herbivores. If you look at the post I made in the other cancer debate forum, it would seem to explain why dinosaurs developed cancer.
The four causes of disease if you wish to label cancer as a disease. They are found in Kevin Trudeau's books. Toxins and nutritional deficiencies contribute to the development of cancer. Looking at this in the form of analogies, the body lacks the right tools to deal with the problem when it comes to nutritional deficiencies. Toxins can be like the spark that ignites the fire.
Remember what the Center of Disease Control stated. Now think of what emotions are. Emotions are forms of energy. Everything has some type of energy frequency. There is a broad spectrum of energies that exist. The trick is to find the right type of energies in order to treat the problem.
I do not agree with this statement for the following reasons:
Emotions are mostly a state of mind: and I believe are a drain on the body and are extremely enervating to it, which in turn produces disease from metabolic toxemia.
So goes the belief and theory of Natural Hygiene and which I also believe to be correct as well.
Not sure how anyone could think otherwise!!
Hmmmmmmm !!
Thoughts are forms of energy. If thoughts are forms of energy, then emotions are probably forms of energy also. I suppose there are biochemical elements to thoughts and emotions. I really don't know but I do believe there is at least an energetic effect of thoughts and emotions. Feel free to debate me. This is a debate forum and I won't mind.
Where do you feel emotions especially strong emotions when you feel them? You feel them in your body. You don't feel the feeling of rage or attraction only inside of your mind.
The energy of the body is partly why I believe EFT works. Tapping codes are used on parts of the body. According to people like Gary Craig (the founder of EFT), they believe psychologists have been looking in the wrong place. They only look in the mind. This is why people who have been traumatized by war get over their worst experiences within hours or even a few minutes with EFT.
I was just expressing an opinion about which I may be wrong, but in my own experience thoughts are an accumulation of nervous energy from the electrical impulses in the brain; which in itself relies on good nutrition to function optimally.
Emotions are definitely made manifest in the body by tension, tremors, crying and so on but I think are channeled from our thought processes regarding what we perceive through our senses and understanding. (If that makes any sense at all).
Don't know much about EFT and I am sure it is very beneficial, but one story springs to mind on this very subject.........and which may be relevant....
A psychiatrist I knew (who has to be a qualified Doctor before embarking on that speciality) argued that most if not all behavioural illnesses stem from a psychological origin (trauma, bereavement, childhood experiences etc) and are therefore only psychosomatic and do not have a physical origin.
When confronted with the fact that alcohol and other drugs, plus deficiencies in some nutrients such as the B Vitamins result in behavioural illnesses such as depression, she then refused to discuss the subject any further.Hmmmmmmmm !!!
There you go, psychosomatic has no physical orgin. Hence it is another example of how the energy of your belief system works. Another example would be the placebo effect. Placebo is the energy of belief that can't be explained by Newtonian laws.
I guess psychiatrists are not trained in biochemistry. Nutritional biochemist Jay Foster likes to say on some of his shows, "All neurotransmitters in your brain come from your diet."
Looking at all of this through an analogy of a house, minerals are like the cement or the foundation of the house. Amino acids are like the walls and the roof. Vitamins are like the furniture.
Then you provide it with running water and electricity and you have your energy system. Of course energy is essential to your body just as your heart needs it to pump blood.
I think traditional psychiatrists and psychologists are threatened by energy modalities like EFT, TFT, and my favorite one Quantum Techniques.
"What kind of dinosaurs? Were they the carnivorous
type or herbivorous? Based on your post I would guess they
were herbivores. If you look at the post I made in the other cancer debate
forum, it would seem to explain why dinosaurs developed cancer."
Note in the article below that cancer "...is the
most common cause of death in animals." There is no distinction
between carnivores or herbivores. Trying to pin it on one specific thing is
like trying to prove that all death is self-inflicted, which it is.
You can find sites all over the Internet on the topic of cancer in dinosaurs,
but here's one link: http://www.livescience.com/health/060403_dino_med.html
Dinosaur Tumor Studied for Human Cancer Clues
Cancer in dinosaurs and illnesses in other animals are being studied in a
groundbreaking new program that combines medical school with the study of
natural history.
(snip)
Finding a cancerous Jurassic lump doesn't surprise Michael Kennedy, a surgeon
and professor at the University of Southern California. "Cancer is the most
common cause of death in animals. It is not a uniquely human disease," he
said in a recent telephone interview. The renewed focus on history in the
teaching of medicine pleases Kennedy, also the author of "A Brief History
of Disease, Science and Medicine" (Asklepiad Press, 2004), which describes
the intricate historical links that connect diseases.
Mercola who is held in high esteem by many on this board, agrees that cereal
grains are the cause of many of our illnesses and problems. Mercola has
written The No-Grain Diet and I have a friend who is following it and within the
first week lost 10 pounds without trying (she is not overweight) and some of her
allergies cleared up. I don't agree with Mercola on a lot of things, but
on this one I'm in complete agreement.
Generally, in most parts of the world, whenever cereal-based diets were first
adopted as a staple food replacing the primarily animal-based diets of
hunter-gatherers, there was a characteristic reduction in stature, a reduction
in life span, an increase in infant mortality, an increased incidence of
infectious disease, an increase in diseases of nutritional deficiencies (i.e.,
iron deficiency, pellagra), and an increase in the number of dental caries and
enamel defects.
In a review of 51 references examining human populations from around the
earth and from differing chronologies, as they transitioned from hunter-gathers
to farmers, one investigator concluded that there was an overall decline in both
the quality and quantity of life.
There is now substantial empirical and clinical evidence to indicate that
many of these deleterious changes are directly related to the predominately
cereal-based diets of these early farmers. Since 99.99% of our genes were formed
before the development of agriculture, from a biological perspective, we are
still hunter-gathers.
Thus, our diet should reflect the sensibilities of this nutritional niche:
lean meats; fish; seafood; low glycemic vegetables and fruit, (modern
agriculture has significantly increased the sugar and starch content of
vegetables and fruits over their Paleolithic counterparts), nuts and seeds - the
evolutionary diet.
I can also add something to that. I heard that the problem with grains is that decades ago, a certain amount of them have been genetically engineered to resist insects. I don't need to say more.
"I can also add something to that. I heard that
the problem with grains is that decades ago, a certain amount of them have been
genetically engineered to resist insects. I don't need to say more."
Genetic engineering (GM) is a term that is much too loosely used by
many. In reality, it is the modification of DNA of a plant or animal by
the introduction of the DNA from a different species. A plant can have the
DNA of an animal introduced into it and vica versa. This has been going on
for little more than ten years, not decades. GM technology as it relates
to plants has been around for not much more than 20 years. Almost all
modification of plants prior to GM was via hybridization, which is a simply
selective breeding. If you read Mercola's referenced site, this is what it
says regarding cereal grains:
From Mercola:
"Generally, in most parts of the world, whenever cereal-based diets
were first adopted as a staple food replacing the primarily animal-based diets
of hunter-gatherers, there was a characteristic reduction in stature, a
reduction in life span, an increase in infant mortality, an increased incidence
of infectious disease, an increase in diseases of nutritional deficiencies
(i.e., iron deficiency, pellagra), and an increase in the number of dental
caries and enamel defects."
So the increase in disease, reduction of life span, and on and on began with
the advent of agriculture which occurred about 10,000 years ago. Trying to
blame our ills on GM is downright foolishness. It is and has been the
introduction of cereal grains, exacerbated by the more recent advent of polished
(white) rice and white flour.
We have hybridized fruits and vegetables so significantly that many can't
even be found in nature. Go find a wild green bean. Or a wild
pumpkin, and many others. It is exactly what early humans did with the
advent of agriculture. They learned hybridization very early with both
plants and animals and a great deal of what we eat - besides cereal grains, bear
little resemblance to what our hunter gatherer ancestors ate, just as most dogs
bear little resemblance to wolves from which all of them are descended.
(All domestic dogs are descended from wolves which is hybridization and not GM.)
Virtually no square foot of our planet is toxin free from all the man made carninogens in pesticides and industrial products and pollutants that have either been applied directly to our soils or drifted into our soils from the air and rain. That is especially true of radioactive fallout from all the above ground bomb tests that virtually blanketed the globe - and some of the radioactive elements have half lives of up to 30,000 years.
Plants take these toxins in from the soil, as well as from the air and water and from direct applications of chemical products. Virtually no plant product on earth is entirely free of toxins and many contain them in very dangerous amounts.
We have made quite the mess of things, and the best we can do is live as cleanly and healthily as possible. A diet that consists of a large amount of organically grown raw vegetables and fruits, along with nuts, seeds and roots (or tubors) is the healthiest diet of all, but if one does not include some healthy meat then they are eating a diet that is not one our bodies have naturally adapted to and run the very high risk of missing vital nutrients that are not ordinarily supplied by a strict vegetarian diet. That is why many strict vegetarians are among the most unhealthy people on the planet.
I see you evidently have not yet done a full survey of the Beyond Vegetarian website written by veterans of the vegetarian movement dating back to the 60's. Vegetarianism may be a laudable concept, but it is not a natural one. Man did not make nature, and when man tries to manipulate nature the results are invariably harmful. Life forms live on other life forms, that is the way nature works. Some live on plants, some on animals and some on both. Plants are lifeforms too, btw.
GM scares me more than anything else I can imagine. Globally I think it is possibly going to be a catastrophe - It has already been introduced to 3rd world countries by so called benefactors.
Research conducted in the UK found:
"In the tiny number of cases where tests have been carried out, the results have been worrying. A study in August 1998 by Dr Arpad Pusztai in Aberdeen found that young rats fed GM potatoes for just 10 days developed growth-like thickening of the stomach and intestinal lining. Could the overgrowth of the gut lining be a prelude to cancer? This was highly threatening to the biotech industry, but rather than pursue these questions, the research was closed down, and Pusztai vilified and hounded out of his job."
But, one overlooked point is that most vegetarians do not live on vegetables: their diet is full of processed foods...........they just exclude meat..........so they become unhealthy as a result.
One other point to consider (and I am not defending vegetarianism) is that whichever way you look at it, a strict vegetarian would eat vegetables/fruit; but, omnivores derive their meat from animals that feed on plants.
In other words, everyone receives their nutrition (either directly or indirectly) from plants.
I'm a 32 year old Vegetarian and my health is excellent. My blood pressure is on average 100/60 and my blood work is similar to a healthy child. Humans can adapt to any situation and eating meat is one on them if need be, however when there is a choice between food energy that is second hand(meat) or food that is first hand, well think about it. Simply put eating meat will shorten the life span of humans.
In that case how do you explain the fact that all of the longest lived people on earth all eat at least some meat? If humans adapted to eat meat, then they did it for millions of years now. That explains the teeth which are made for eating both plants and meat. If strict vegetarian is so correct, why don't mothers just feed their babies vegetables?
We aren't so far apart actually - you are right about veggies being better for you overall and I think that the more raw fruits and vegetables you eat, the better off you are . . . so long as you do not eliminate meat (especially fish) and dairy entirely. Or else really know what you are doing and supplement well - and THAT would be adaption, because we are naturally adapted to eating some meat.
Congratulations on your wonderful health. Mine is more like 120-130 over 80, but then I am 23 years older than you are. And I do eat too much meat, even if only a fraction of what many eat and a healthier selection of meats overall too.
You assuredly must have excellent eyesight, as I can barely read your tiny words. I always choose "small" - so us old blind folks can read it.
Please be aware of one thing - vegetarians are very health conscious by and large, working out, walking, jogging, riding bikes, etc., and have healthy lifestyles.. For that reason, many of them look and feel very good. But many of them have deficiencies that are building up like and are ticking time bombs for later problems. that That is why some vegetarians that have been eating a strict vegan diet for years and look and feel good suddenly have preciptious declines in their health - the deficiencies finally catch up in the form of serious conditions and/or a precipitous decline in overall health and wellbeing.
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