Hello, ... ... I have 3 questions as I would like to try UT; ... ... 1. I am sick and I know my system is not ”clean.’ I have metal fillings in teeth, etc., I can not have them removed at this time. I have Epstein Barr (chronic, active), candida in my intestines, and probably parasites as well. My white blood cell count is high - probably due to what’s going on in my intestines - there’s an infection somewhere. Is it ok to do UT under these circumstances and gain benefit? ... ... 2. If the answer to the above is yes, that would be good news and I can ask my second question. Re: low protein diet during ...
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Since urine is one of (if not THE) primary detox pathway(s) for bromine/bromide, doesn’t it seem prudent to avoid UT when detoxing bromides (such as during the first few weeks or months of iodine therapy)? ... ... Mark ... ... [End]
... ... A couple of links on healing teeth with UT: ... ... http://www.healingteethnaturally.com/urine-therapy-teeth-gum-problems.html ... ... http://www.healingteethnaturally.com/urine-therapy-tooth-root-infection.html [End]
It’s an outrage. One would think a site such as curezone would encourage information sharing about something that clearly works, according to those links. Regardless of how unfamiliar and unconventional it is. ... ... btw, I asked you this question in another thread, maybe you didn’t see it: ... VonBingen, re the positive effects on your gums (congrats!!), do you just drink the urine or do you hold it in your mouth for a while? [End]
I’ve written a lot about what I do: slowly drink morning urine, quite a bit of it actually, holding it in my mouth a bit before swallowing. I use aged urine in my water pic (dilution 1:1) and because I feel the infection in the nerves in my face and up in the bone, I’ve also done aged urine packs at night before sleep. ... ... There are also non-UT things that I do, but the UT has been what turned the corner for me. ... [End]
I’m thinking of writing up all the research I did on periodontal disease and this whole UT therapy prospect. It’s a lot of info. ... ... I set up several gallons of urine last October and am still using them. :) They say the older the better. Only thing, you have to store it with a loose top or it will become too strong. ... ... Two other supports: propolis and Dr. Schulze’s Tooth and Gum tincture. ... ... I also have done a lot of raw animal products and that made a big difference as well, and intermittent fasting. ... ... Hmmm... that’s all the info off the top of my head. ... ... How bad is your condition?
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... ... Good to know that aged urine is usable for a long time. :-) Yes, writing up all your research would be cool. ... ... I think I was the one who clued you about the propolis, which I in turn learned from someone here. It has become a staple for me with UT. ... ... I did have gum disease but I’ve got my condition under control. As well as UT, I do oil pulling with regular oils and also use magnesium oil orally. On occasion I’ll use an herbal mouthwash like Dr. Schulz’. I also pay special attention to diet. I take tablets of alfalfa, kelp and dessicated liver among other things. Dessicated live ...
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About the raw meats, I don’t really know how it works of course, but the idea is to introduce new pathogens so that the immune system is heightened. ... ... For me, it was an immediate and dramatic result. I kept it up on nearly a daily basis for a month and now I no longer feel drawn to it, but I do try to do it once in a while. ... ... There’s also a therapy that involves rotted meat but I haven’t got up my nerve for it (yet?). Were my mouth to take a turn for the worse again I would probably do it. ... ... Propolis wasn’t effective for me in particular but Dr. Schulze’s tincture is quite strong. It’ ...
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... ... The herbal tincture I have is very strong also. The herbalist said to use it by drops in the mouth, but I prefer to dilute it. I’m not using it much these days though. ... ... Magnesium oil has become a standby for me for rinsing and brushing. Yes, it does feel intense. I started out diluting 50/50 with water. Over a period of some months I worked up to full strength and it feels fine to me now. I feel it’s making a real difference for my oral and general health. Many others have reported good dental effects. Check out this article for one: ... http://healthinsurgence.com/2012/03/26/disl ...
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... Hm, I guess I was mistaken about the messages being deleted, since they on the Dental Health forum now. But I could have sworn they were gone previously! [End]
Tooth and gum pain can have several sources. First, tooth decay simply stated is bacteria eating into the tooth and are irritating the nerve. Gums can also have various infections causing pain. Temporary relief can be achieved by packing Goldseal against that area or rinsing the mouth with salt water, also, a few drops of Atomidine in a small amount of water. [End]
I am a newbie to urine therapy (UT) as well as curezone bbs. I just learnt about UT about a month ago & it took a while for me to overcome the ’yuck’ factor. I did very extensive research on internet, read many books on it & then started with few drops. Gradually increased to a cup of life-water a day but didn’t notice any significant effects. I have severe food allergies, joint pain, body pain, lethargy from my ulcerative colitis & leaky gut which is very significantly effecting my ability to work & make living. Allopathic approach turned out to be useless so decided to go on UT fasting. ...
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Another thing you can try is to do this fast as you are until you are tired of it (hopefully more than 21 days)and then alternate with one week on food and one week on a full urine and water only fast because it will be much easier then. Keep alternating until all your symptoms have gone. ... ... If we can believe others who have written books like John Armstrong - The Water of Life, then all your symptoms should disappear if you fast for long enough. ... ... I am 61yrs, westerner, and I fasted on urine and water only last October for 20 days and I feel much better now 4mths later than I had in the ...
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The youtube video is very informative. Fortunately / unfortunately, I got very allergic to high fructose corn syrup & corn in general. Also corn in the US is mostly GMO! Anyway, I already feel better with the water diet (urine looping & light soup) like I did some 4 yrs ago. I also started a herbal formula ’ParaGone’ which supposedly kills parasites in the digestive system. I’m more hopeful of getting better. I’m willing to do this diet forever if needed ... just need my life back. [End]
I think if you let the body take its course you will not need supplements like paragone. I always get a little nervous when people combine things with a urine fast. Some light soup is of course not allowing the body to fast, but if it helps to get on the track of fasting then it is better than not doing it. Eventually if you fast completely on urine and extra water your body will most likely correct all of your problems. The trouble is that you have to fast until you feel 100% better which may take 20-50 days. ... ... Good luck, it is not all that easy, but gets easier after day 4 ... [End]
Oh I see. I will gradually give up soup & other supplements within next 3-4 days. My worry is that I’m already weak from colitis & didn’t want to lose more weight & get weaker from fasting completely. Anyway, to get cured I am willing to do anything. I’ll stick to 30 day full fasting on urine & distilled water as you & the books suggest. Thanks WaterOfLife! [End]
WaterOfLife: how about a little coconut water (like 1 ounce/day) once in a while while on full fast? I think the marginal nutrients can help one from getting too weak but will it make the fast ineffective? [End]
The only true way is water and urine only. But it is very beneficial to do a juice fast, or fast with light soup instead of eating. ... ... If you want to cure yourself you will do it faster if you take no other foods. A fast reserves energy and heals rapidly, a urine fast can renew organs and systems too. ... ... If you take in small amounts of food then the body does not know whether to go into ketosis or normal metabolism and you can go into starvation mode where the body does not automatically protect itself from losing essential nutrients. I got that from the fasting forum, it is not my own kno ...
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WaterOflife: thanks for the detailed info. I’m convinced. I’ll go urine & water only diet from tomorrow. I’ll post my results in about 10 days or so. Again, Thanks!! [End]
Day 4 & feeling very hungry, experiencing lack of energy & breathing has become very deep but at the same time feeling quite introspective/meditative & insightful. Enjoying it. Think I can go for 30 more days on this UT fasting. [End]
I don’t believe AT ALL in UT. I tried it when I was desperate for a cure, took it orally and as enemas, and it did nothing. Juice fast is in my opinion all you need. ... ... edit: colitis and leaky gut are due to bad bacterias, fungus and parasites. I don’t see how UT would touch those, as it did nothing for me. Properly thought juice-fasting, herbs, friendly bacterias and enemas is all you need. [End]
Kcirla: I have done a very extensive research & found that there are at least 8 good books (customer rated) available on Amazon on UT. There are many cultures all over the world from east to west, in the past & to date who believe and have documented the use of UT. There are several millions of people today in China, Japan & India who practice UT for various ailments & general health. How can all these people be wrong? Of course when I first heard of it, the idea sounded very bizarre because I couldn’t understand how one’s own urine which is supposedly a waste product can be good but after ...
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Can i add for Kcirla that all babies grow in the womb mostly in their own urine which is produced from about 6 weeks. Amniotic fluid is mostly fetal urine. ... Operations on babies in the womb never show scar tissue and if wounds are soaked with urine bandages they too will not scar. If a fetus has insufficient fluid surrounding it the lungs do not develop properly. Urine is essential to every one of us for our development before we are born. If it is going to harm anyone surely it would harm a fetus. ... Please look up this information, it is fact. [End]
Day 5 & feeling slightly better health-wise. Strictly consuming only water of life (body fluid) & water and nothing else. On the emotional/mental side it’s mixed. Mood swings, deeper breathing, slower bodily movements which is all expected on fasting. On the positive side, bodily instincts seem to have got sharper. Cravings diminishing, understanding what is going on in my body, what I should be eating, doing in life in general, etc. My ADHD is also very much in control. Still having the slight feeling of being starving but not as bad as yesterday. Overall, feeling more optimist & instinct ...
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You may become irritable for a day or so, your senses will be much sharper, your thinking will be sharper and after a few more days you may have intense food cravings that you can control, but you will marvel at the vivid smells of food. ... ... It gets a bit easier as you go on. One thing to find out is how much energy you have or do not have. Take everything slower, pace yourself and you will be OK. ... ... If you want more energy sit in a bath each day before bathing and rub fresh urine into all your skin from a cup, it really works, it does not smell if washed off with water. Old urine can smell ...
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I’m really not saying UT is harmful, urine has apparently an interesting composition. But it did nothing for me. Of course, any form of fasting or liquid diet can be beneficial, but I strongly believe that juice-fasting is much more powerful. [End]
Kcirla: I practiced UT for 2 weeks in February & it didn’t do anything significant for me also but then I realized that I was not doing it properly. I then ordered the book ”Start Your Own Medical Practice” & decided to do the proper way of UT fasting. It’s been 3 days on strict fasting/diet practice & I am beginning to notice the effects. I’m convinced & quite confident that this is going to work for me very well within the next 30-50 days. ... ... BTW, I did try juice-fasting in the past with probiotics. It didn’t work for me. I’m not saying that this practice doesn’t work for anybody ... I’m ...
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samann, I’m always interested in new literature about UT, but is it possible you’ve made a mistake with the title here? ”Start Your Own Medical Practice” on amazon.com seems to be about MDs drawing up a business plan. ... ... [End]
VonBingen: oh yes, that was a mistake ... my apologies. The correct title of the book is ”Your Own Perfect Medicine: The Incredible Proven Natural Miracle Cure that Medical Science Has Never Revealed! ” by Martha M. Christy. [End]
I haven’t looked at that book for a while, but didn’t she also have colitis? ... ... Christy advocates that we do not do extreme fasting. She suggests trying homeopathic versions. I both drank and did the homeopathic versions. They are very easy to make if you have a sterile bottle, some distilled water, and brandy or other high potency alcohol. ... ... But you are also doing injections, right? That is supposed to be very effective. Could you give us the details on the injections? [End]
wateroflife: thanks for the useful tips & inspiration for me to continue keep going on this. I’m confident that this is going to work for me in next 30-50 days. It is obvious why UT has not become a mainstream practice. There is such a huge prejudice & misunderstanding about it and on top of it, there is no profit to be made by healthcare providers & hence no research done on it. Anyway, people who are really really really desperate will always find the resources (books, info, people) & attain success from it. I’ll keep posted on my progress every week so that someone else can benefit from it.
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UT fasting can be beneficial no doubt, but I believe it is the fasting rather than the UT that is bringing benefits. ... May I ask what you juiced during your juice fast? Of course juice fasting ALONE is not likely to resolve your issues. You need to adress what makes you sick, and this is not the lack of juices. ... Most probiotic pills are useless anyway. I suggest instead homemade goat milk kefir, much cheaper and FAR more beneficial in terms of fighting pathogens, and repopulating the gut with good bacterias. [End]
I tried goat milk kifer & yogurt and found that I was allergic to both. All kinds of kifer & yogurt (cow, buffalo, goat) produces allergic reaction in me. Get full body-aches for 24+ hrs from them. As for juices, it is mix of vegetables & fruits. I’m also allergic to most fruits & some vegetables like tomatoes, spinach & carrot. I used juice made of pomegranate, blueberry, apple, avocado, cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli, hemp seeds & cucumber in various combination along with probiotics from renew life & garden of life. I stayed on juice only diet for a month & didn’t see any improvements. [End]
I think you’re mistaken. Did you drink homemade goat milk kefir, fermented for 36-48 hours? It is very unlikely you would be allergic to it, as most of the lactose is digested that way and the casein in goat milk is very easy to digest. What you felt could very well be a healing response due to the kefir killing pathogens. Kefir IS a powerful antifungal and antibacterial. I myself reacted dangerously to kefir at first, and got no problems with it as I got healthier. ... ... Also, I very doubt you’re allergic to things like carrot and spinach, but yes some people have problems with nightshades. ...
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Kcirla: You may have got a very good point here. I bought goat yogurt & kefir from Whole Foods health store & consumed as it. Maybe it was not fermented enough. They do that to keep it fresh for long I suppose. Next time, I’ll ferment (give more time) a little bit more & then consume. I know I badly need yogurt/kefir to build up good culture in my system. I agree with you, probiotic powders/capsules are too weak for this. ... ... Regarding, allergy to spinach & carrot ... I think you are right there too. I have not checked individually if I am allergic to there. May be I’m allergic to only nig ...
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We bought live kefir grains on ebay. It’s so easy to make. I would let it ferment all the way, until the whey completely separated from the curds, then drink the whey alone, and eat the curds with berries for the antioxidants. [End]
Kcirla: i got some organic goat yogurt from whole foods & this time i kept it outside for 36 hrs to ferment little extra. this time it didn’t seem to hurt me at all. my daughter who also has allergies could tolerate small quantity! what a relief!!!!!! i always loved yogurt & know it’s great for gut & my problem in particular. i needed this very badly. THANKS for suggesting this to me!! [End]
Me? I drank probably about a gallon of vegetable juices per day, carrot juice being my main juice. ... ... I did try the urine fasting for 2 days I think, but I immediatly felt it would lead me nowhere. When you’re very sick, pathogens have taken over, and your liver is likely to be compromised, and I doubt urine would adress neither of those issues. I didn’t pass one single parasite or worm with UT, and with juice fasting (among other things) I was passing hundreds daily. [End]
What do you folks think about herbal anti-fungal & anti-parasite formulas like CandiGone, ParaGone & Fungal Defense? Is it safe with juicing or UT diet? [End]
It is a very good thing to add especially for your condition, but most parasite/candida cleanses on the market are too weak. I tried the paragone and it was useless. ... Hulda clark website sells a strong black walnut tincture, very effective. If you’re in the US, you might consider ordering from Mountainroseherbs wormwood and cloves powder. Also, use raw garlic and turmeric. ... Fungal defense appears to have some cellulase and protease enzymes, which have been useful in my experience for candida. But a product like Candidase by Enzymedica is far more potent. [End]
Just a reminder that nothing should be added to a Urine Fast because as soon as you add something it will stop the fast. A UT fast is strictly water and urine. According to much literature the body will heal itself. ... ... Also after a fast food must be re introduced very slowly especially the first foods. Perhaps a spoon of juice, wait 1hr, small part of a fruit, wait 1 hr, more of the same fruit, wait 1hr, soup or small amount of steamed vegetable, wait overnight. Start with small portions of fruit again building up to a very small meal later that day. Next day should be OK, but you will no ...
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To be very honest, on 2nd days of full fasting (on urine & water alone) I felt very hungry, like starving, got that ’body began to cry’ feeling so I broke it by consuming 200ml of fresh coconut water. It is very hard to follow the strict UT diet :( I am gonna try again to see how long I can stay on full diet. It needs tremendous will power. I guess we can build the will power for this over time (?) [End]
There is no ”UT diet”. Some say, avoid meat and bad food so that your urine tastes good enough to drink. ... ... I eat meat and drink coffee and my urine is fine. ... ... Just avoid everything you would avoid anyway to stay healthy: processed foods, foods containing sugar especially, and gluten as that is doubtless an issue for you. ... ... YES -- going straight to such a long fast is difficult. Most here start with shorter fasts, say, once a week, or, if you are very ill, simply having a small meal for dinner is ok. Others can tell you more about this. [End]
@Kcirla: Oh! I was just about to post another question asking about the effectiveness of herbal anti-parasitic & anti-fungal formulas and you already answered it :) BTW, just curious - could you cure/put your condition in remission using the juice diet & herbal formulas? [End]
Kciria, the parasite cure with urine is to drink urine that is about 20 hours old, in early fermentation to ammonia. Online testimonials say this is the juice that knocks out the worms. [End]
Kciria, I was very sick. In the past I had Lyme disease. I got a handle on that but went on to have an infection in the bone beneath my teeth, something that had been smoldering during Lyme, I believe, as one of the last areas I had a bad herx was in the bone beneath my teeth. ... ... So, I had lots of pathogens, having their home in hard-to-penetrate and treat bone. ... ... I was in a lot of pain all over my skull. Tried all the standard herbal and dental treatments, got me out thousands of dollars but did not help. ... ... Juicing (I never did a complete juice fast, but I drank a lot of freshly pressed ...
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I wanted to add that I went to my dental hygienist today and had the pockets measured around my mouth. What used to be 3, 4s, 5s and 6s now are 1s with an occasional 2, one 3, and one 4. ... ... This is the result of UT on periodontal illness over six months! ... ... I have found other things that help and that I keep up on, but the UT is what has made the biggest difference. If I neglect it for one or two days, the pain comes back and my gums become inflamed. ... ... [End]
... It’s great to read about peoples’ success with this therapy, it seems to work unfailingly if one is persistent! ... ... VonBingen, re the positive effects on your gums (congrats!!), do you just drink the urine or do you hold it in your mouth for a while? [End]
VonBingen, lots of good info. thanks! i hope it was the die-off reaction & not weakness. I’m gonna continue the fast for a while. Many books including ’Water of Life’ by Armstrong do recommend urine & water only diet and I’m sold on that. It’s just too hard initially to do it. I’m happy that I at least eliminated the grains, refined foods & other junk. [End]
Armstrong also mentions an alternative diet, that is, fasting but in the evening eating a small meal of rice and vegetables, as I recall. He said that he had patients do this alternative when the urine fast was too difficult. Sometimes patients would return to the pure urine fast after taking a break with the alternative fast. And he also mentioned one patient having a healing success on the alternative diet alone. ... ... Sometimes my retentive memory comes in handy... [End]
Great to hear people’s experiences. My first fast lasted 24hrs. Years later 3 days, years later 6 days, then 10, 13, 20 days. ... ... In regard to healing with UT my first experience was with ”Tennis Elbow”, an inflammation of the point where a tendon joins the bone. It was very painful and my business was a water jet contractor so I had to hold a high pressure water gun at shoulder height and wash down buildings. I took Ut and without realizing the pain disappeared. I had been to the doctor about a week earlier and I had to hold that arm up with the other arm while water blasting. ... ... When I dr ...
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Day 7: Broke the full fast after 2 days. Been on semi-fast for a week now & will continue the semi-fast for next 23 days. Lost lot of weight (12-15 pounds), feeling a bit weak & dizzy, had black stool ... seems like lot of bad gut bacteria/fungi were flushed out. Sigh. Now on coconut water, very dilute moong soup with culinary herbs & of course morning urine. Will slowly add well fermented goat buttermilk to re-establish good gut ecosystem. Yesterday, I took cabbage juice & added apple cider vinegar which was probably in excess. I reacted to it badly. Had my typical leaky gut symptoms - bo ...
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After 10 days of fasting, I unfortunately ended it. I still consume few ounces of urine in the morning but didn’t continue the strict diet plan. I discovered that I could tolerate well fermented goat’s milk (thanks to kcirla) so started consuming that regularly. The taste of urine also changed because of that & therefore couldn’t continue the fasting anymore. I should admit that this kind of fast on urine takes tremendous will power. Some day I want to be where you are, WaterOfLife. Overall, I feel better than how I was before I started the fast. Not sure what worked - urine or goat milk o ...
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I am sure you will eventually get there samann. ... It was easier with John Armstrong because he had the experience and conviction to assure people and they listened to him and were guided by him. Today we have thousands of alternatives. ... Keep at it, keep trying different things, keep coming back to UT fasting. ... The worst thing about modern society is that we want a fix as rapidly as possible with as little effort as possible. You have put in a big effort, no denying that, keep going as you feel you should. [End]
Just a quick update: Some three days after breaking the fast, I’m now noticing a remarkable improvement in my condition. I don’t think I’m cured yet but my colitis & leaky gut symptoms are less than 25% !!!! No exagerrations. Not really sure what worked - urine fast/therapy or the anti-candida medication or introduction of goat yogurt. I feel that it’s combination of all three. Gut got healed, bad gut flora got cleared & is now gradually getting replaced by good flora. Although I couldn’t complete the 30 day semi fast plan, I consider this a great success. My many many thanks to WaterOfLif ...
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Samann, ... ... ... ... Can you please write one post about your whole experience with fasting (in short) from the beginning to the end? ... ... ... [End]
Sure, I have recorded details of my experience for my own future reference. Here you go - ... ... I am diagnosed with ulcerative colitis with leaky gut syndrome which made me allergic to more than 95% of the foods. My symptoms included intolerance to cold weather (cold allergy), chronic fatigue, sleep disorder, arthritis type body/joint pain, migraine headache & motion disorder - diarrhea/constipation alternating. I also had deep depression (or hopelessness), anxiety & irritability which I now believe was caused due to this condition & was not purely psychological. ... ... After extensive research o ...
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Well done Samann, I like to ”feel” what my body tells me too. ... ... For Amjadov, here is my account of fasting also ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2004458 [End]
... wateroflife, for a stronger anti-inflammatory effect, you could add anti-inflammatory foods and supplements to your diet. Naturally this would be reflected in your urine. There are some good recommendations on this page: ... http://healthyprotocols.com/2_inflammation_1.htm ... [End]
Hi, ... Ulcerative colitis is an inflammation of the large intestine. Common symptoms of ulcerative colitis include rectal bleeding and diarrhea, but there is a wide range of symptoms among patients with this disease. Variability of symptoms reflects differences in the extent of disease (the amount of the colon and rectum that are inflamed) and the intensity of inflammation. [End]
Hi , just started urine therapy.. doing injections ... building from one ml up to 9 ml for minimum of 12 weeks. ... Doc says key is to get it in the tissues. ... ... I know it will help autoimmune symptoms, hoping it gives me a boost healing my leaky gut and leaky brain genetic test shows missing pathway in phase 2 ( no glutathione pathway genes ) and ramped up phase1, graves disease. ... ... Gaps diet is so hard to stay on. I just give up and do straight fresh juices sometimes or fast. I am able to eat more foods now though. ... ... I will try fecal transplant at some point unless they come up with probi ...
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Could you please explain how you do the injections? ... ... My NP gave me a filtered needle to uptake the urine into the syringe, and another needle, only 4 ml long, to insert the urine sub-cutaneously, that is, right beneath the skin, so that the urine forms a bubble at the place of injection. ... ... Do you have a longer needle for intramuscular or are you also doing subcutaneous, and if you are injecting deeper into the tissue, what do you do for pain? ... ... I’ve been trying to find these details for quite a while. would appreciate any information you can share. Thanks! [End]
Hello ... ... I have a mole in the back of my right leg, in the calf area. It have always been there, but now it has a dark tissue expanding from the center of it. However, it is still possible to see brown sections of the mole surrounding it. ... ... Although I am not a vegetarian, or a natural diet person, I decided to give UT a try. I started applying urine with my hands on that area and it felt really good. ... ... That said, I was afraid this was not enough. So I soaked cotton in urine and applied it to the skin lesion with some socks to hold it in place. ... ... So far, I have felt very energetic, but t ...
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I have some moles and a lesion on my upper arm which I tried treating with urine and also silver water with no result. ... On my last fast of 20 days on urine and water the lesion on my upper arm which had been open for about 1.5-2yrs closed over by day6 and has not opened again although it has not healed or disappeared either. ... Other changes are that some moles that were tender became hard during the fast and without pain, but now 4mths later they are starting to become tender again. ... I do not have answers for you, but soaking in urine alone did not work. [End]
Just because you don’t see the result, doesn’t mean there is not one. Urine can help stop the growth of cancer cells and their spread to other areas. [End]
Please, please, please see a dermatologist! If caught early, all that needs to be done is to remove the lesion and then you’re good to go. If you wait until it has spread into the lymphatic system, you’re in big trouble. Please take care of this as soon as possible! [End]
If you think removing the lesion will cure the problem I cannot agree with you. What allowed it to grow in the first place will cause it to come back again later and most people find that it is worse then. ... ... I have already demonstrated that an open lesion (18mths) can be healed to a closed protrusion in 6 days on urine fasting. ... ... Certainly it is annoying that I cannot easily remove it completely. ... ... If it spreads to my lymphatic system it is easy enough to cure completely. No. 1 use Bob Beck protocol, at the same time fast on urine until it completely clears. I stopped at day 20 because ...
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Thanks for the recommendation. Yes, I will see a dermatologist, as they do a better analysis (than conventional doctors) on skin lesions and can determine if they are dangerous or not. ... ... However, I am not sure if surgery is the way to go. There are many natural cures, even for advanced cancer. Some people have been left to die by conventional medicine, but have found health in natural medicine. [End]
Hi Gamer, ... ... I took down what definitely looked like extremely aggressive melanoma some 16 years ago with an alcohol patch. It grew from nothing to a purple, soft raisin size during 4 days. I had no interest in medical treatments as I could imagine what would follow. I did some fast thinking and decided to inhibit whatever cause may have been with alcohol. It developed on the outside of my leg next to my knee and I made a pocket from a piece of soft plastic (garbage bag) and taped it over the bugger bottom and sides, placed a piece of a paper towel inside the pocket as a loose compress an ...
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Hello! ... ... I’ve read many times, that urine can be used for teeth whitening. - Ancient Cultures used it for that. ... ... I would like to try it and would like to know whether fresh or aged urine should be used for that purpose. I will just swish it around in my mouth, not swallow it. ... ... As I understand, the ammonia is mainly responsible for the whitening effect. And ammonia is especially contained within aged urine, I believe. -So probably aged urine would be the right thing to use? ... ... Are there any precautions, that I need to consider when using urine for teeth whitening? ... ... Thanks for your help!
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during the process of the intake of Shivambu, the following things should be strictly avoided: ... 1}vegetables in the form of leaves, ... 2} flowers, or ... 3} legumes( a plant that has pods as fruits and roots that bears nodules containing nitrogen fixing bacteria ,peas & beans are legumes ); ... 4}grains that cause flatulency (causing excessive gas flatus to be created in the stomach and intestines); and 5}starchy (containing a large amount of starch, or like starch, especially in consistency), ... 6} pungent,( having a strong smell or a powerfully sharp or bitter taste, biology describes a plant or ...
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Thanks for the rules of using UT. ... And do you also have any advice, whether fresh or aged urine should be used for teeth whitening? ... ... Thanks! [End]
-if you consider that historically (going from memory, you can find it on wiki) pee was imported from Portugal to Rome for tooth care, it would be aged. ... ... I use both in my dental care. Haven’t noticed the whitening, but my teeth stain easily. However, I had almost no tartar on my teeth after nine months of no dental hygienist cleaning, and my gums are reportedly perfect, so something is working here. [End]
VonBingen, ... ... thanks for your answer! ... And you have a great person as your username! ... ... Good to hear, that urine is working well for your oral health. ... I’m about to start using aged urine for teeth whitening. - I have very old (1 year old) urine, that should contain lots of ammonia. Do you think I could use urine that old? Any precautions? ... ... Thanks again, ... snowing [End]
I’m a great fan of Hilde for sure, thanks. ... ... Yes, here is the caution: ... ... Urine that has been aged in a closed airtight container should not be used, the concentration of ammonia is too powerful. ... ... Urine should be aged with the top loose or covered with only the plate part of the canning jar top, so the ammonia can gas out. It will still be strong enough to have a medicinal effect. ... ... Aged urine is more potently anti-pathogenic, I’ve found, for oral use. ... ... The older the better -- but only if allowed to gas out while aging. ... [End]
Hilde, ... ... thanks again for the help. ... ... That’s an important piece of advice that you gave me. The urine I wanted to use has been in closed glass bottles for about 1 year. -What should I do now? ... - Is this urine useless for the purpose of teeth whitening? - - If yes, can it be used for anything else, or is the ammonia content just too dangerous? ... - And last question, what if I open the glass bottles and leave them open for a few days or weeks, will I get a less dangerous ammonia concentration that I can safely use? ... ... Thanks again!! ... snowing ... ... ... [End]
I REALIZE that I do have some other concerns, I take about ten natural supplements and I wonder if any of them will contaminate the urine for an enema. I do take iodine but in fairly small dosages, and I take a few other supplements to increase my testosterone naturally. I read that one should not take drug prescriptions while on urine therapy but what more natural supplements, and what about iodine in low dosages? ... Secret Agent Man [End]
I JUST started urine therapy but I am only doing the urine enemas. There seems to be some confusion on how old the urine can be (again I mean only for the enema, not drinking it). ... For example, one person on another forum said he would not use urine more than 8 hours old (for enema) and only if it was refrigerated. It also looks like some doctors from India say you can collect it for weeks. I have done an urine enema using urine (unrefrigerated) that was several days old and I was fine; my intestines did gurgle a lot more with the several day old urine but that was about all. I want to sta ...
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Ask Dr. Rakshak Lodha in India (rakshakmal@yahoo.com) because he has lots of experience. ... ... I do not remember John Armstrong (The Water of Life) ever talking about enemas, he obviously considered them unnecessary and he cured hundreds of people with only urine. ... ... He said no matter what the ailment do the same thing - drink all your available urine each day while fasting on water and use some to massage your body for as long as possible each day (2hrs at a time) and wait until your condition feels like it has disappeared. Usually that took from 21 to 30 days although with severely affected ...
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There is a very detailed account of urine enema therapy somewhere on this forum. I would have to look it up on my harddrive to find it for you, I’ve saved it but I don’t have time just now to look. ... ... Basically though, if I remember correctly, it’s 2 - 3 X a week in the evening, fresh urine (meaning from that day) pure, taken in and then if possible to a bit of a leg lift or trunk lift so that the urine is taken up the intestine. Hold about a 10 - 30 minutes and expel. Do this a couple weeks, and then evolve to only once a week. ... ... It’s quite rejuvenating. Good luck! ... ... ... ...
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Share your story and become famous for being made to look like an idiot. ... when you reply you will be given the sensitivity treatment like ”we would never do that, no this is a human interest story” and then when you see the results you may be horrified. [End]
I’m currently on day 1 of a urine fast I guess you can say its a urine and water fast but I’m only going to be drinking a cup or two of water a day maybe even less. Well today I felt pretty good except for a little stinging pain in my lower back Idk what that could be but I’m not worried about it. Also I have more control of my thoughts and a clearer mind. I’ve done fast before but always ended around day 6 or 7. But this time I’m definitely going the full 21 days possibly more. I’ll post every day about how I’m doing Peace. [End]
Good luck, glad to hear of your intentions. I hope you do well and I will be reading your posts. ... ... I ended a water urine fast in October after 20 days and I have much more control now of my cravings than with previous fasts of 13 or 14 days. ... ... Something gave me more willpower. I am still getting back to rubbish foods amongst my mostly good diet, especially over the Christmas period, but I have kept my weight down this time and I have a much better resolve to eat healthily. ... ... I wish you the best. [End]
Hello, ... ... I’m curious if anyone knows or has any experiencing practicing daily Urine therapy while ingesting Green clay and powdered Zeolite clay Both clays are used to pull heavy metals and toxins out of the body. My only concern is ingesting the harmful toxins and heavy metals back into the system through the Urine. Maybe this isn’t the case at all and it would be fine. Any help would be appreciated. ... ... Thank you [End]
I cannot give you the correct answer, but I could not imagine those things being eliminated through urine. It would seem more natural for it to be eliminated through your bowels. Can you do more research about the mechanism of how it works? [End]
Hey guys! ... ... I have tried UT before when I was relatively healthy in the past and noticed that it did help a little. ... ... Recently, due to work stress, job hazards, and contracting herpes from a companion that I started seeing recently, my health has been quite bad. ... ... I tried using colosan to do some detoxing, and am wondering if UT will help me get rid of the annoying haemorrhoids, herpes, and Angular Chelitis problems? ... ... If there are any people with such experiences, please do chip in and recommend a routine that I can put into practice? ... ... I am quite bummed out atm as I refuse to take ...
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I am certain you will cure yourself of all of these things if you fast on urine for long enough. ... ... It is not an easy road, you should massage your body with urine each day before showering, fast on all your urine and water which means very regular trips to the bathroom all day and much reduced energy levels so you cannot exert yourself physically too much without needing a big rest afterward. ... ... The number of days is uncertain, probably 21 - 30 days, but it seems until you feel much better and have no more symptoms. ... ... On the other hand you could also try the Bob Beck Protocol which shoul ...
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Dear respected sir, ... ... I have a Female patient (33 years, married, mother of two) with the Acute Leukemia. I have all records (SCANS) done by private doctors and PGIMER, Chandigarh. ... ... She is intersted in treating her cancer with Urine therapy or any other, any one refferes. ... ... If any one has treated ”Acute Leukemia”. Please post here and help. ... ... Already taking ”cow urine” and ”wheat grass juice”. ... ... Patient is now getting mental stress and it getting worse every day. Please provide 2 – 3 phones of patients in India, who were treated by you for ALC. This will help us for doing her counse ...
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... ... Nobody’s asking you to use it. ... ... Urine therapy has provided me with many healing benefits including physician ... diagnosed - before and after, the cure for my skin cancer. ... ... Originally published in about 1917 The Water of Life documents many cancer ... cures: ... ... http://www.amazon.com/The-Water-Life-Treatise-Therapy/dp/0091906601/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356228038&sr=8-1&keywords=water+of+life ... ... Ingesting urine cures liver cancer: ... ... http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/urine-therapy-livercancer-cure.html ... ... Cures breast cancer: ... ... http://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/cancer ...
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... ... "all those people did other treatments besides urine, show me a case ... where people drank their urine and thats it to cure leukemia" ... ... That’s not true and you obviously didn’t read any of the cancer cures at ... those links. In my own personal case of curing my skin cancer it was urine ... therapy alone - nothing else except perhaps my love of raw garlic, another known ... cancer cure. ... ... Here’s a couple of verified cases of leukemia being cured with urine therapy: ... ... http://www.ayahuasca-wasi.com/2011/urine-therapy/ ... ... The Doctor Inoue treated and cured a 3 years old child who ...
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Thank you for some very good information. ... ... I have been using urine therapy for 35 years to super-fast cure things like tennis elbow, tendinitis etc. 16 years ago I decided to take a glass every day and for the first time in two decades I did not spend a day in bed with flu or cold for eight continuous years. ... ... I have done about 6 urine fasts, the last ended two months ago after 20 days, I am healthy and I want to stay that way. ... ... I am not a health fanatic, I drink alcohol which I have reduced, I eat some junk food that I am trying to wean myself off. ... ... Thanks again for the info you po ...
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... ... Thanks for your response. ... ... I’ve practiced UT for about 10 years, a couple of years ago didn’t take any ... for about a month and old issues with bright lights at night came back as did ... fungus/athlete’s foot - which had completely cleared up after almost 60 years of ... being plagued with it and no cure found - until UT. Anyway, since that one ... stoppage I drink about a cup a day and sometimes more. I just find it ... overall beneficial. ... ... I’m far from being a Puritan. I try to step my way through things ... carefully and also am addicted to martinis though at my age it’s perha ...
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Though I have read many good reports about urine therapy, I must admit that I remain a bit skeptical. Certainly I would not rely on urine therapy to try to conquer leukemia or any other form of cancer. Wheatgrass I like a lot, though I would not rely on it either as a standalone treatment. If it were me, I would look at a comprehensive overall anti-cancer protocol such as the one I suggest: ... ... A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol ... ... I will add that the above protocol features oleander as a centerpiece, but also contains much, much more in the way of cancer-fighting her ...
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The trouble with me is that I have never had cancer. However, I look at things in a holistic way and use my own common sense to determine whether health treatments ring true or not. ... ... Urine fasting is the only thing that rings true for me. ... ... John Armstrong (The Water of Life) filled a small book with the worst examples of cancers and other deadly ailments afflicting patients who had only days or weeks left to live that were all cured with urine fasting. He advocated daily massages with urine for hours if possible, drinking water and all the urine passed, but absolutely no food. Fasts wer ...
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Just came across this posting. ... I agree; there is more to treating cancer than one single approach. Too many people out there are holding up their treatment to be the end all treatment when you have to seriously look at the cause, the cancer is just the effect. ... ... Chemicals and stress to the body’s immune system are usually the cause; hormone imbalance plays a role a lot but it takes more than one of these elements to tip the scale so far as to get the effect of cancer. To reverse the effect one must begin to reverse the elements that caused it. Diet is one major point. Detoxing is anoth ...
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Here is one. ... ... Dr. Rakshak Mal Lodha ... ... Jodhpur ... Indian, Author, Accountancy, Economist, Pharmacist, N D, Financial Adviser, Psychologist, written Many books on Nature Cure & Urine Therapy in Hindi & 1 book on Urine Therapy in English. Treated unlimited patients with Urine Therapy & Nature Cure in India, Singapore, & USA, Member of many societies and Urine Therapy groups I am writing more books I gave lectures at Hindu Temples in USA and in India at many places on Urine Therapy & Economics, Finance and Jainism Phone: + 91 291 2712999 rakshakmal.com ... ... [End]
Hi all, ... ... Unfortunately, since I am to begin treatment with the Lamotrigine drug, I must stop UT. I would like to know whether a medication ingested once or twice a day is excreted in the urine during all hours of the day. ... ... Thank you. [End]
I believe some substances (medicines) go through, some are altered so they can be passed through to the urine and are then not the same as when they were taken and some do not significantly pass through. ... ... Try doing Google searches on the drug name and urine to see if you can find anything. Otherwise you might be able to make a request to the drug company. ... ... I think I read somewhere that the liver attaches enzymes to the substance which allows the kidneys to eliminate it in some cases. You must also think about the possible potency in urine which may be very small and also that it is go ...
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Did u have any illness affecting results from your UT regimin. How long did u ever pursue ut daily? ... ... Have u ever given a try to castor oil packs? If not, a few days a week or more for a few months might produce some positive results. [End]
I practiced UT for the past nine months, never noticing what great an effect it had on my depersonalisation disorder, as I practiced other methods as well. ... ... It has only been a week since discontinuing UT, as I began the drug treatment, and the results are noticable. I experience greater mind fog and drowsiness, which in turn worsens all my symptoms. It is as if a substance in urine ordered my brain to wake, whereas now my dysfunctional brain has to regulate this on its own. It is quite miserable a situation, as the effects of the drug will probably be felt several weeks from now. Today, ...
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Very interesting, thanks. ... ... A brain clearing exercise that might help is ”Super brain yoga”, You hold your right earlobe between your left thumb and pointer finger while your arm is crossed over your chest. Then do the same with your right arm crossed over the top of your left and hold your left ear lobe. Keep you tongue against the roof of your mouth, take a deep breath in while moving down to the squatting position and let the breath out while standing up again. Face East while you are doing this and repeat 14-21 times, do it daily or twice daily. ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSwhp ...
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Yes, I do, but not every day because I forget or cannot be bothered. Then I get into an unmotivated mood the next day or two and I get annoyed with myself for not doing it, so I start again. On average I probably do it 3-4 days out of 7 and it almost always increases my calmness, motivation and the ability to concentrate. ... ... I am right brain dominated and most people who have difficulty concentrating are the same. This is the only thing I have found that works. [End]
Great, thks. ... W so many using meds, this is a valuable study. Tho it would be nice to know the action, sophisticated nutricinal booster, natural euphoriant, endocrine affecting brain hemisphere ballancer, whatever it is, for the time being, at the least, its an assist to feeling better. [End]
It would be helpful to know which batches of urine contain the most medication, and avoid these. Knowing the half life of the medication might be a clue. ... ... Also, a homeopathic remedy of urine might have a similar effect on your brain. They are easy to make: you need a clean jar, some distilled water, and high concentrate alcohol. I’m sure there are instructions on the web if you are not familiar with the process. [End]
Does anyone know how to make make the herpigon cream for herpes? Apparently is works very well and includes urea, tannic acid, and zinc sulfate. I can’t find anywhere that tells how to make it. Thanks [End]
I cannot answer your question, but there is an extremely effective product for cold sores that costs very little to make yourself and should do the job. ... ... This is colloidal silver and there is a forum here for it. I make my own using a Sota Instruments Silver Pulser. ... ... A relation was visiting a couple of years ago who got cold sores regularly. She had one coming up and expected it to burst through by morning. I suggested she try a silver water spray on her lip which she did. We could not see it yet, but she knew it was coming. It did not eventuate and she sprayed it every two hours the f ...
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Hi all! ... ... I would need some expert advice here. I try to keep it short but I doubt I can. Okay, so I have inflamed gums under my two lower center teeth, for some 3 months now. I had been doing the Andreas Moritz liver cleanses, and after the thrid such cleanse, the inflammation suddenly appeared. Since then, I did three more cleanses (so six so far altogether) but still inflamed. I really do everything regarding dental hygiene, I tried many home remedies including rinsing with salty water, rinsing with urine, urine therapy and I also bought a Waterpik. Still no improvement. I then decided ...
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Hi Lucikam, ... I think your symptoms are quite normal and I put it down to withdrawal from your normal foods rather than detox. ... ... I have had those symptoms a few times, always in the first 3-4 days, but then it goes away. On my last urine fast I massaged myself with urine and it was much easier. ... ... John Armstrong (The Water of Life) said to consume all of the urine you pass, massage your skin with some (obviously some of the urine you pass) for a couple of hours a day, sip cold water too, rest as much as you can and fast for 7, 14, 21, 30, 45 or 60 days depending on how severe your health p ...
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Hi Wateroflife! ... ... Thank you for your comment. ... I will do a urine fast again, when I will have time. ... ... I don`t drink alcohol, coffe, sodas. I drink only water and roibos tea, or some herbal tea. I don`t consume any sugary foods, sweets, deep-fried foods, cakes, white flour, etc. ... ... I eat fruits, vegetables, wholemeal bread, tahini as a spread on the bread, nuts, wholemeal pasta, stir and fried vegetables, etc. So I think I`m not one of those worst eaters. ... ... Thank you for your advice regarding the urine massage. I didn`t do this before, because I haven`t any clue how to do that. I only a ...
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I can’t speak to your fasting experiences, as my own experience is limited. I understand though that some experts advocate working up to dry fasting with one day weekly fasts with water and periodical longer water fasts, and a daily exercise routine to continue when fasting in order to protect the muscles. ... ... That said, I have been dealing with inflamed gums, too, and found urine therapy, urine fasting, and water fasting, to help to a degree. Thinking about it... the gums did become acute after a couple liver flushes, four years ago. ... ... I have to say that what has helped me the most has b ...
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Hi VonBingen! ... ... As I understood you said that you got gum infalmmation after some liver flushing. I have the same story. I have never had any problems with my gums, after 3 liver flushing my gums were and still aching, soring, and inflammed. I really regret that to did these flushing anyways. ... ... For how long have you had problems with your gums? You said you got problems there 4 years ago. So you mean your gums become inflamed after some liver flushes? Did you have pain in your gums? Is your gums painless now because of the raw meat and milk? ... ... I have problems with it from may. And I hav ...
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Hi Luckyam ... ... I had gum problems about 20 years ago, but I was overseas where they gave me a wonderful treatment the ”old fashioned” way with four consecutive weeks of deep planning, and then two weeks of antibiotics, a combination of flagyl and amoxicillin. This combo is known to have a powerful synergistic effect for gum disease, and is widely used in Switzerland and Germany. But dentists in the US know little about it as it is not recommended by the ADA. ... ... About ten years ago, I was treated for Lyme disease and during treatment, one time had a painful flare beneath my teeth. EVen thoug ...
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Hi VonBingen! ... ... I read about your acidic urine problem while you do a fast. ... ... I have read a lot about urine therapy. I want to quote a part one of my readings: ... ... ``Ingest only your own freshly voided urine. Normally urine is light yellow, clear and sterile, especially if collected mid-stream, but during reactions it may become offensive and cloudy. When ingesting a large part of your urine you should check to make sure that it is not too acid. The morning urine normally is slightly acid, but during the day it should be slightly alkaline. ... ... You can buy litmus or pH paper from a chemist. ...
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That’s very interesting. I went to the site and had a read. The author is quoting Martha Christie but the edition I have is not as detailed in how to treat acidic urine. ... ... Thank you! [End]
As I understood acidic urine could be a detox symptom. If somebody`s urine is getting acidic during fasting that could be means she/he has lots of toxins in their system. They said if you notice that your urine is getting acidic during fasting take sodium bicarbonate/baking soda. ... ... If you notice that the urine is acidic I think that could be means the detoxification is under progress and I think it supposed to be get better after a while. These toxins will leave your body after a while if you countinue the fast. ... ... My opinion is that you have to do a fast until you notice that your urine ...
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Yes, I like that thought. But as I understand it, there is another condition called hyperketosis, which is when, rarely, the body becomes so acidic while fasting that it begins to devour its own protein. ... ... A good prevention for this is exercise, something that people who are actually chronically ill have a hard time with because, with Lyme anyway, their metabolism changes and they have difficulties burning calories the normal way. ... ... There is another condition called chronic acidosis, and it is common with people who have chronic degenerative diseases. In this case the acid is a result of ...
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Hi VonBingen, ... ... Have you thought about blood tests for all the possible conditions you might have? I believe you have to specify them otherwise they do not test for them, I think the doctor has to tick which ones they do tests for. ... ... I praise Western Medicine for its diagnostic excellence so I use it if I have a real problem, I just do not like their solutions and treatment, preferring to do my own. ... ... I wondered if you had a good diagnosis (if that exists) it might give you some insight into what could be the solution. [End]
Yes, I’ve been diagnosed and treated. The Lyme and Co. pathogens like to hide in nerves, bone, glands and connective tissue, covering themselves in impenetrable bio-film, and they come out later presenting as a different illness or disorder. It’s very difficult for doctors and patients--part diagnosis, part guesswork based on clinical experience, part seeing response to treatment. ... ... Kidney disease apparently doesn’t show in a test until quite a bit of damage has been done, so recognizing risk factors and bodily responses that resemble possible kidney disease seems reasonable. ... ... I’m testi ...
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Very sorry to hear you live with this, no wonder you have done your micro research well. It is of course out of my league to attempt any real advice, glad to know that UT has done something and yes, I will try harder to bless my health. ... Good luck, keep trying. Here is a video about relief with Bob Beck Protocol.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2gZmB6eB4E you have probably done that already. ... ... For the first 14 days of my last fast I used both the Sota Silver Pulser and the Sota Magnetic Pulser. I figured that since I was concentrating on improving my health and prevention that giving my bl ...
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... Very sorry to hear you live with this, no wonder you have done your micro research well. It is of course out of my league to attempt any real advice, glad to know that UT has done something and yes, I will try harder to bless my health. ... Good luck, keep trying. Here is a video about relief with Bob Beck Protocol.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2gZmB6eB4E you have probably done that already. ... ... For the first 14 days of my last fast I used both the Sota Silver Pulser and the Sota Magnetic Pulser. I figured that since I was concentrating on improving my health and prevention that giving my ...
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Hi, ... ... It is an uneasy task to make any ’diagnosis’ on a base of your statement. ... ... However, I believe that you may suffer from vit C deficiency as a result of an unhealthy body image resulting in a poor diet. Forgive me if I am wrong, but I really feel that you are not telling us the ’full story’. ... ... I believe that any kind of fast may not only prevent your body from healing but also deepen its nutritional deficiency. ... ... Please educate yourself about nutritional needs of human bodies that, unfortunately, are not able to run on ’empty’, and consider watching videos of Dr. Natasha Campbell- ...
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Hi Fasinganne! ... ... Thank you for your advice. I will buy some vitamin C. What do you think how many miligramm should I take daily to overcome any nutritional deficiency? ... ... I used to take Vitamin C for 5-6 years daiy 1000 mg, but I read Andreas Moritz book who said no need vitamins supplements and I quit from taking it about a 6 months ago. ... ... My gums were healthy before the liver flushes, and since those flushes I have gums as terrible as I could never even think about. ... ... Thank you! [End]
Hi lucikam, ... ... I must withdraw my previous, made in a hurry, assessment of your symptoms due to the fact that I made it on the incorrect assumption that all your gums were inflamed and your body seemed to be emaciated. ... ... I still, though, believe and read it between the lines of your first post that your nutrition has been inadequate and you probably have abused your body trying to keep it lean and fat free. ... ... What you need is healthful, nutritionally dense, alive food not pills and drugs. ... ... Love, ... ... Anne [End]
There is certainly a place for vitamin supplements, although I agree they don’t take the place of a good diet. ... ... I take a bunch of supplements myself including vitamin C, and have for decades. They’ve only done me good as far as I can tell. You might check out this video: ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FmTjcRf8j0I ... ... ... Andreas Moritz passed recently btw. He was pretty young. Not saying it was because he didn’t take vitamin C supplements, but who knows? ... ... Edit: I’d also recommend the topical calcium/zinc products at calciumtherapy.com, developed by a dentist s ...
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Hi! ... ... Can you please tell me what kind of products did you use? Could you avoid the root planning? What size gum pockets did you have? Are those smaller? ... ... How did you use the urine therapy regarding the gums? ... ... I`m oilpulling, using urine therapy (sometimes fasting 1 days to made up a longer fast with urine), taking high dose vitamin C from the last week, taking Q10, etc. Doing lot of stuff as well, but still can`t see any changes. [End]
I’ve explained everything I’m doing (and there’s a lot) in various posts. In addition, I’m putting a thin film of healing oils on the dental floss I use, such as tea tree. ... ... The new thing I’m doing that seems to be putting the dot on the ”i” is the protocol described by Aajonis Vonderplanitz. There’s a lot about his protocols online and on youtube. The ”Youtube Debunk” says he is like Atkins and advocates eating mostly animal products. His book is much more differentiated however, and he does talk about alkalizing and the foods used to do this. ... ... I’ve been struggling for several years, w ...
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Replying to lucikam’s questions: ... ... I don’t know what size pockets I had, just that the dentist said the situation was dire, and that I had to do what she said or else. I chose to believe I could heal naturally (and yes, I refused the root planing). I undertook the calcium therapy products as I said, please check out the site calciumtherapy.com. You might listen to this podcast with Dr. Mark Manhart, who runs the site: http://oneradionetwork.com/dental-healing/dr-mark-manhart-dds-calcium-therapy-non-invasive-dental-care-november-17-2011/ ... ... He is very accessible and helpful with email ...
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I firmly believe that a a major part of detoxing is to drink enough water so we have colorless pee. Yellow pee shows our body is struggling to neutralize all the toxins coming out of the body. So could someone explain how urine therapy works? [End]
Most people start with reading books first. Here you can find some information ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=124496 ... Also in R ratings at the top of page you will find posts with information. [End]
Pamela, ... ... I do not know how it works, just that it does. Every foetus bathes in its own urine because I read they begin making it at about 6 wks and the water surrounding the baby consists of mostly foetal urine. They ingest it, they breathe it and they excrete it. So we all began life bathing in our urine. ... Surgeons found that foetus’s that were operated on had no scar when they were born. ... ... I have read many times that if you wrap a burn or wound in urine soaked bandages it will heal with no scar, just like the babies. If the foetus does not breathe the urine its lungs are not develope ...
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I guess if you think of urine as full of toxins it would be a good question, but I think there is only a tiny amount of toxins in urine. ... ... I believe from what many people have said who are far more knowledgeable than I am that urine is filtered blood serum. Feaces is mostly waste, not urine. Apparently we eat massively more toxins every day in our foods from the chemical additives for flavour, bacteria control, preservation, colouring, anti-clumping etc. than is contained in our urine and it all goes down the same tube, into the stomach where the good is mostly separated from the bad. ... ... ...
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anti-oxidants are negatively charged and bind with toxins which are positively charged. So people keep saying that there are minerals in pee, therefore beneficial, is only partially right. The mineral is there but your body using it means that the toxin detaches and your body has to get it out again:( ... I’m not knocking the therapy, but it is opposite thinking from what I’ve learned. [End]
Antioxydants bind with free radicals, which to my understanding are an electron that was knocked out of its orbit. When free radicals are thus neutralized, they are stopped from the cascading effect of kicking off more electrons and creating more free radicals, leading tissue damage. ... ... Perhaps this is a simplistic explanation, but from what I understand, free radicals are created from oxydants, and are actually useful in some senses because they depose of unhealthy tissue along with the healthy. For instance, Miracle Mineral Supplement is an oxydant, and some experts believe that flaxseed ...
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Yellow pee to my understanding shows a higher concentration of urea, which is one of the active anti-pathogenic components and also helpful for hydration of tissues, and, when consumed, increases levels of the anti-oxidant glutathione. Yellow (amber) pee can also mean a higher level of bilirubin, which would indicate that not all is well with one’s liver, but it is not toxic and in fact, urine therapy has been used historically to treat jaundice. It’s a good idea to get test strips to answer these questions for oneself if one’s urine is consistently a deeper color of yellow. ... ... The topic o ...
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You already have good answers but here is another explanation. It is from ... http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm ... ... ... Healing with Urine Therapy ... ... Urine is not a dirty and toxic substance rejected by the body. Urine is a by-product of blood filtration, not waste filtration. Medically it is referred to as ”plasma ultrafiltrate”. It is a purified derivative of the blood itself, made by the kidneys--whose principal function is not excretion but regulation of all the elements and their concentrations in the blood. Urine can be compared to leftovers from a meal, and this metaphor ma ...
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... ... Surprised no one has pointed out that eating foods high in B complex like brewer’s yeast, or taking B complex vitamins, also makes yellow pee. I can testify to this! So rather than being toxic, it’s exceptionally healthy! ... ... Re the fetus being bathed in urine as Water Of Life explained--it’s occurred to me that if we undertook, for nine months, an intensive program of intermittent fasting on urine, along with massaging it into the skin and a nutritious and light diet, this would be highly rejuvenative, ... At the end of the nine months we would be ”reborn”! [End]
I usually have a glass of water before bed and my urine is always clear in the morning with very little colour - maybe light straw colour. It only goes yellow when I have not had enough water in the previous few hours. In summer, I can drink lots, but if it is very hot my urine is still yellow. In winter I almost never have yellow urine and often it is so clear I cannot see any colour. ... It was always that way in my younger days when I was down the pub and after a couple of hours of drinking beer my urine was very clear. ... I always associated strong urine colour with dehydration. Is that not ...
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So if you didn’t drink before bed, you would have yellow pee. ... I believe the will anti-age if it doesn’t need to digest anything in it’s sleep. But so far, not dribnking after 4 or 5 always produces yellow pee. But maybe that’s not too big of a concern. [End]
I’d like to correct my message above. I cannot recall where I read that urea translates to more glutathione, so please do not rely on that statement. Thanks. [End]
WaterofLife has inspired me to try a longer fast again. I have several health issues I’m balancing and treating at once, and I’m concerned about how to go about treating them while fasting, and having the energy to keep up these protocols. ... ... One is neurological: peripheral neuropathy, which requires a lot of vitamin B supplements, including injectible methyl b12, and special exercises 2x daily. I had some reversal of improvement after my last fast... though while actually on the fast it was improved. ... ... The other is infection in my jaw, for which I’m taking a powerful herbal antibiotic th ...
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Hi Von Bingen, ... ... I would not take your supplements while fasting, not after the first 2 days anyway. However, I am not you and I have nothing to lose by saying that unlike yourself. ... ... If it was me I would be using the Bob Beck Protocol for 30 days minimum first, then go on the urine fast and continue the protocol while on the fast (except the silver water). It will cost you somewhere around $1,000 for the Silver Pulser and the Magnetic Pulser and the Ozone generator as a kit. This will enable you to kill the infection and improve your immune system to the point where you can go off your ...
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WaterofLife, I have been interested in some kind of frequency machine, but I’m not sure which one is best for a jaw infection. Luckily, I do not have metals in my mouth so I could use the Beck magnetic pulsar there directly? ... ... Reading on the Beck forum, some were advocating Rife-type machines to use specific frequencies to get at the Lyme disease and co-infections that like the jaw. That’s probably my pathogenic involvement. ... ... So, any machine is a lot of money, and just not sure which would be best. Is there someone on curezone who is an expert I could ask? ... ... Right now, I feel a lot bet ...
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Hi VonBingen, ... ... I have been reading about all those others too and although I know nothing about them I get the impression that the Sota (Bob Beck) products are very good and based on good research. ... ... I have been using the Beck Silver and Magnetic pulser for many months just on and off for ’maintenance’ in case I was becoming compromised with my healing system. I have not noticed any difference with one exception which I will explain below. If I do not have a real problem I suppose I will not notice any difference. Recently a number of good acquaintances of mine have either died or had c ...
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Hi WaterofLife, ... ... I’m on day three and it’s tough, as in so tired and low blood sugar that it can be hard to stand up and walk. Had quite a bit of fast heart beating earlier today. Because I’m too exhausted to massage myself, and there’s no one I can ask. ... ... I went off the medication. It is ozonated oil, about ten drops a dose, 3X a day. I may go on again if it seems needed. ... ... My urine was ok yesterday, but this morning, woke up to the old story: salty, bitter, acidic urine that actually feels unsafe to drink. ... ... I didn’t drink much of my first morning urine, drank quite a bit of water a ...
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Von Bingen, that is sad to hear that you are so weak, but so was I in the first 3 days, it all began to change on day 4. Keep going, don’t worry about the amount of urine you consume, water is OK with some urine, plenty of time to catch up on that. I think it is more important to save some of your urine in a coloured wine bottle with a tissue on top for massaging after 4 days and to try to massage now if you can. Don’t forget when you start your aged urine to immediately prepare another bottle. ... ... I sit on a bathstool in the bath and pour it from a cup into a small container like an eggcup ...
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Thank you very much for your encouragement. I began to feel a bit better after stopping the urine drinking and only drinking water. ... ... The urine I’m collecting has a pale green color. ... ... I looked that up, and it might indicate a urinary tract infection. I wonder if I have a sub-clinic infection of the bladder or kidneys that is causing me so much trouble. ... ... Could also have something to do with bile issues, though I could not find out which exactly. One has to dig deep sometimes online to get the info one is looking for. ... ... Anyway, very peculiar and probably linked to whatever is going on ...
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Yesterday, Day Four, felt a little better. ... ... Today, high detox mode, in bed most of the time. ... ... My urine is so acidic I can hardly drink it, even when diluted 1:1 with water. It is also foamy, so I guess there is a lot of bacterial die-off. Most of it is now going down the toilet. ... ... As of this morning, have lost 10 lbs. That’s 4 kilos. It’s hard to imagine lying in bed, losing weight. All the toxins and acidity passing out of the fat cells into the bloodstream. No wonder I’m feeling so poorly. People with a history of Lyme store a lot of toxins produced by the bacteria in their body, es ...
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Good luck Vonbingen, you are very brave to do it, all the literature says it will be fine, take it easy, try to keep taking some urine even small amounts and lots of water. [End]
Thanks. I feel like I’m peeing battery acid, and I feel pretty awful at times, especially at night, when my body aches from lack of exercise and my new bonier body can’t get comfortable on the mattress. ... ... On the positive side--it’s got to be a good thing to get all that acid out of my body. [End]
My ND explained (per email, very generous of his time) that my sour and frothy urine could be the result of ketones, which pass into the urine and are highly acidic. The burning of my own protein (muscles) could be producing the froth. ... ... I’ve looked up ketosis and fasting, and apparently it is stronger if one does not drink enough. So I’m increasing my water intake, and I’ll report if it makes a difference. [End]
Hi Vonbingen, ... ... My guess based on personal experience is that you should be drinking between 2lt and 3lt each day, hopefully the majority of it is urine, if not water is fine and then your urine should be quite clear and normal. I never thought that you might not be drinking that much and it was very difficult for me to believe that your urine was so strong. I did believe you though. [End]
I drink more than a gallon a day. ... ... I think I shouldn’t drink more, really. Drinking more may momentarily reduce ketosis, but it doesn’t resolve it. ... ... I don’t know why my body has gone into such strong ketosis. ... ... Could be genetic. ... ... I’m feeling better today, I’ve gone completely onto a water fast. I’m also doing the elimation protocol advocated at a fasting site I found linked to from curezone. It’s called fastingconnection. The elimination process is like creating a sauna situation in your own home. It’s a very effective adjunct to fasting. ... ... When the urine clears, I’ll drink more ...
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A gallon is 3.7lt, nothing wrong with that for a good quantity. I was only drinking around 2-3 Lt. Six days is a really great effort especially with your severity of conditions. I cannot imagine why we are so different. I thought I had a bad preparation too. [End]
My preparation was pretty good. I did 1.5 day fasts each week for about four weeks, was eating a great diet, was drinking nearly all my urine until evening. (I considered this a sign of progress, because before my first attempt at fasting here in early September, if I drank a lot of urine I felt really ill after a few days.) ... ... I am actually a bit concerned. Doing research online, you quickly see that foamy urine is very rare when fasting. I come up with ketonuria, but also kidney disease. I didn’t think I have kidney disease because I have no foam (protein) in the urine normally. But who ...
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Wonderful that you are at that stage. I too started to sleep less for about 5 days at around this point and then I had good energy and also good sleep. Still have good sleeping pattern now. ... ... I was 45 when I began to drink a glass a day of urine and my sleep was one of the first things that changed. Over about 2 years I went from 8-9 hours a night to 6 hrs a night. I regard 7hrs now as a big sleep, 6hrs normal. It just happened naturally and I do not know why. [End]
I’m thinking I should end the fast. I keep reading online that high levels of ketones in the urine indicate starvation. That is NOT the effect I’m looking for. ... ... I think I’ll eat mildly for a few days and then try again. Every week helps, right? ... ... I am also considering juice feasting. ... ... [End]
Do whatever you must vonbingen, good on you, 8 days is already very good and I absolutely believe that each time you do it, it is that much easier when you do it again. ... ... Other fasting forums have pointed out that any nutrition at all while fasting produces starvation rather than healing fasts so we must take as much care as possible to either be on food (or juice) or nothing. ... ... You have great determination and in your circumstances I am sure I would have given up long ago. [End]
... Well I spoke too soon in my last post. Later yesterday I had another foul watery bowel movement (sorry), no discomfort though, just eliminating toxins I guess. ... Energy continues to be good, just made a couple of sales calls and did a demonstration, but each effort was small. I walked up a hill for two blocks and that really taxed my reserves, so I can do most things except exert myself too much physically. ... That lesion is still shrinking and now I understand why the massage is necessary. ... The last two years I fasted for 13&14 days, but the lesion continued. This time it is shrinking rapi ...
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Are you doing full body massages or only the feet, face and neck? Are you using old urine as Armstrong suggests or fresh? ... ... Are you drinking distilled water? There’s a lot of info out now about the combination of urine and distilled water fasting. ... ... THANKS! Very interesting to read your reports! Good luck to you and much healing. [End]
Thanks for your interest. I am doing full body massages with fresh urine. I sit on a bath stool in the bath with the shower curtain around and just massage it into all the areas I can reach, the middle of the back does not get done. ... I have been using fresh urine, but tomorrow I will start on 4 day old urine. I just hope the smell of it is not too overpowering, I wash everything down with the shower rose so it has not been a problem to now. ... I do not use distilled water, our tap water in Melbourne Australia is very good although it does contain chlorine and flouride. [End]
Like others here, I find the smell of old urine washes off or disappears from the skin, but not from the hair. ... ... It’s encouraging to read how well you are doing. How interesting that you begin to have movements several days into the fast. [End]
Thanks for the hair tip, regarding movements, it has happened on the last 3 fasts and is just foul water. I do not know why it begins about day 4-5 and lasts about 4-5 days. It produces discomfort which is relieved after I eliminate. [End]
Yesterday I was full of beans later in the day and evening and I had trouble sleeping. Another foul liquid bowel movement today - looks like the same pattern as previous fasts where it lasts for 4 or 5 days. ... I am motivated and clear headed with much less emotion than normal. If someone aims a remark at me I do not flinch and just brush it off where before I would be wounded even if I did not show it. So I guess that means not as sensitive and more calm. ... Today I did some light manual work which did not tire me to the point where I had to have a sleep. No nap yesterday, none so far today.
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When you say aged urine to hopefully grow back some hair, is it older than the four day old urine you plan to use for massage? ... ... Thank you. ... [End]
Hi ... ... I have been taking my morning urine for a week now.I had no qualms starting on Urine therapy. I read about it and went straight for it. I always had a high high tolerance I thought. But I’m just not able to handle the old urine. I’m even scared to touch it. ... ... I kept a batch in a stainless steel vessel with covered with a plastic plate( not screwed tight). After 15 days there are maggots in it!! ... Two other batches that I kept in a closed plastic soda bottle and glass jar both have some kind of white sediments at the bottom (after 8 days). ... Can someone tell me what this is? And if ...
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Perhaps that is why one author prefers to use 4 to 8 day old urine for rubbing. It is known that urine grows bacteria and goes cloudy producing a sediment over time and I have heard about maggots before. Only fresh urine which is sterile should be ingested. [End]
By the way, my wife suffered from psoriasis until about 6 years ago when she stopped using soap and used Alpha Keri which is a liquid, non allergenic cleanser. She has about 99% success, but it came back when she used soap. She swears by it and has recommended it to many sufferers and they have had success too. ... I had dandruff all my life and since I have used Alpha Keri for washing my hair I have not had dandruff for years. [End]
Thanks a lot for the suggestion. I too find whenever I use soap I have a flareup. ... ... Today I tried Boiled urine as suggested in the Damar tantra( which btw strictly warns against using fresh urine for external application).I boiled it down to 1/4th its volume. It had a strong odor but nothing compared to the foul rancid odor of aged urine. And It had whitish cloudy sediments too. Anyone else observed this in boiled urine? ... ... I applied it over my lesions and it stinged. I’m going to follow this route to see if its effective. ... ... Aged urine would be easier and more ’fuel- efficient’ but I ju ...
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It is great that you are trying it and I look forward to your updates. Last night I was contemplating on my lesion and I realised that previous fasts did not remove it, 2 weeks of massaging before this fast did not, but when I fasted and massaged it only took 6 days! [End]
Grow a pair. Seriously. I tried UT about five years ago and kept jars of urine to age... and didn’t dare touch them. My loss! ... ... Urine aged this way is a surprise. It really is. It’s soothing and refreshing on the skin. The smell isn’t bad once you spread it thin and the ammonia quickly evaporates. You can rinse it off if desired after some minutes. ... ... If you sleep alone at night, you can put it on your face and neck before sleeping and the smell will be gone completely by morning. ... ... If it gets on your hair, the smell lingers there. So avoid. ... ... Stored in glass, the smell is better than ...
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Thats a good Idea. This time I ’ll store it in a glass container. n see what happens. Should it be tightly shut or what? ... ... I think only the one which I left loosely covered developed maggots.The one I shut tightly dint have maggots just a rancid odor. ... ... And the whitish sediments I think are just dead cells, protein etc or so I read. Have u noticed Whitish sediments in ur aged urine? ... ... ... ... [End]
The glass container should not be covered tightly. Actually, gradual evaporation produces a more concentrated product, plus it allows the ammonia to build (the process needs oxygen) and escape as gas. ... ... Yes, I’ve noticed the white layer both on top and at the bottom of the glass at different times in the process. ... ... HTH [End]
Thank you for this info. I will store a batch in a mason jar covered with 3-4 layers of cheese cloth and see how that goes. ... ... And I totally forgot to mention this. The batch that developed maggots was boiled first. I had no idea about the bacteria being a part of aging process then. So I guess I probably killed of the bacteria and then when I stored it something went haywire. ... ... And Yesterday while boil-reducing urine I left it on for long that it reduced too much. And it formed the same stench as in old urine.Maybe its just the ammonia smell n not the putrifying smell in old urine as I ...
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Good for figuring that all out. ... ... Right, there’s NO putrefaction going on. The uric acid is changing to ammonia. ... ... I haven’t boiled urine yet, but my memory is that one should boil urine that is already aged to concentrate it more. Not many sources talk about boiling urine actually. It’s not part of most people’s protocols. It may have its purpose, but I don’t know what it is. ... ... When we drink fresh urine, the uric acid changes also into a scant amount of ammonia, which is part of its anti-pathogenic effect in the body. But the liver changes most of it into glutathione, which helps the ...
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Lol. Thank you. ... Im usually not this finnicky but watching the swarm of maggots in the old batch undid me. ... ... Ive left a sample of urine to age, I will report how it goes. ... ... And abt ammonia I dont know what to think of it. On one side there are all these ”ammonia-free” hair products to prevent hair loss n stuff and then there are ppl reporting hair growth using aged urine which is apparently ammonia-laden. I’m not sure where to draw the line. [End]
Questions: the ammonia in urine is not a direct equivalent, and I do not know really what happens to older urine the more it ages. At some point, the fermentation process is over, and then I would think it is a clean liquid with mineral salts that is slowly becoming more concentrated per evaporation. ... ... I haven’t found a good description of what happens between 4 day old urine and 4 month old. [End]
So a fly gets into urine and lays eggs? Or there were already microscopic larva on the container? Or, they were on the genitals and were washed into the urine? Does anyone have an explanation? ... ... The bacteria dies off when the urine is old enough from the ammoniac. Right? ... ... The bacteria actually participate in the fermentation process that produces the ammoniac. [End]
That’s something I’ve always wondered about. We’re told urine is antibacterial. So how can there be a problem with bacteria growing in it? ... ... I no longer worry about ingesting slightly older urine (but not more than one day old), especially since I’ve started adding propolis to it. Propolis is also strongly antibacterial. ... ... Never heard of maggots growing in old urine. I have some very old stuff and nothing like that in it. It’s amber colored and smells strongly of ammonia. ... ... In a previous post Von Bingen, you said if old urine is stored in an open container, the smell is not too stron ...
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I think of urine and bacteria as similar to the fermentation of yogurt, and that helps me understand it. ... ... The urine is ”pure” while in the bladder. ... ... When it comes out it is contaminated by small numbers of bacteria in the urethra. ... ... They grow initially and participate in the ”fermentation” process to old urine. ... ... So at one point, several hours into the process, the urine is quite filled with bacteria. ... ... But just like yogurt--which when fully ”soured” the lactobacilli will actually die off from the acids they produce--when the urine is fully fermented, the bacteria that were involved ...
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... ... OK. But then there’s also the fact that bacteria are everywhere, and that our own bodies are teeming with them. ... Bacteria themselves are not a problem and don’t cause disease. ... The germ theory of illness just doesn’t make sense when you think about it. Even Pasteur said, on his deathbed: ”The Terrain is everything, the germ is nothing.” ... ... So do we need to worry about drinking urine that is more than 3 hours old? I myself am not worried. [End]
I’ve been reading that urine that is between 15 - 20 hours old is good for killing intestinal parasites. ... ... My understanding is this: we should not ingest ammonia, it’s quite lethal. There’s a tipping point when urine that is aging contains too much ammonia to be safe to drink. This (and not specifically the bacterial load) is the main reason I would be cautious with older urine and stick to as-fresh-as-possible. ... ... The 15 - 20 hour old urine may already contain enough ammonia to kill parasites but not enough to damage YOU after one dose. But it’s meant only to be taken once in a while, no ...
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... Hmmm...a poster at the Urine Therapy Debate forum advocated using very old urine. No one contradicted her for years, but someone did. Here’s the thread: ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1080646 ... ... Thanks again for sharing your fasting journey wateroflife. [End]
The person who replies here is talking about urine that is kept for months in a closed bottle, so that the ammonia concentrates. ... ... Typically, in UT, the urine is left with the top not screwed on tight, or open a crack, so that the ammonia escapes as the urine ages. ... ... I don’t know from personal experience, but perhaps very old urine loses its ammonia content. I’ll let you know in a few months :) [End]
... ... Hmm, good point about leaving the top open a bit. ... ... I did keep urine in a closed bottle for many months and recently opened and sniffed it. Didn’t do me any harm as far as I can tell (the poster at the debate forum said it would be poisonous). However, I threw it out yesterday. I’ll try aging a new batch as you recommend. [End]
Right. Athletes routinely sniff ammonia to give them a flash and improve their performance. But too much too often, and it causes brain damage. So while we do have to be cautious about ammonia, we shouldn’t be paranoid about handling old urine. ... ... I haven’t kept my urine long enough to know what happens, but I imagine the ammonia will evaporate with time, even if the bottle is closed if it is not hermetically sealed. It will be interesting to see what happens. [End]
... ... Didn’t know that about athletes sniffing ammonia to improve their performance! Maybe I was too hasty in throwing out that old stuff. :-) Yes, keep us posted on your project. ... ... [End]
Day 10 and all is well. I am constantly in awe of my general agility and energy although it is only available in small amounts. If I exert myself too much (today I ran half a block to a bus) then I need to rest for a while afterward until the energy is restored, but if I do not exert myself too much I am fine. I cooked pasty slice for the family yesterday and I did not have any problem. I really wanted to taste it, but that is just self gratification creeping in. ... ... I did not weigh myself before, but it should have been around 114kg which is about 14kg heavier than my so-called ’ideal’. I ...
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... ... All is well, about the same as the last few days except that I am now sleeping a little less. I like massaging with old urine now, it goes into the skin much more easily and does not smell too bad at all, not like some old stuff I kept many years ago. I keep it in a bottle with the lid very loose and it is about 4 days old. ... ... I am now more confident about exerting myself so I have no problems getting on with my life, I just know that I cannot last if I use up too much energy in a burst. ... ... My lesion has left a scar with some scaly skin on top so I think it is continuing to heal. My t ...
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Hi, ... ... All is well, about the same as the last few days except that I am now sleeping a little less. I like massaging with old urine now, it goes into the skin much more easily and does not smell too bad at all, not like some old stuff I kept many years ago. I keep it in a bottle with the lid very loose and it is about 4 days old. ... ... I am now more confident about exerting myself so I have no problems getting on with my life, I just know that I cannot last if I use up too much energy in a burst. ... ... My lesion has left a scar with some scaly skin on top so I think it is continuing to heal. M ...
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Wateroflife, ... ... Have you been doing urine therapy before starting the urine fast? If so for how long? ... ... It is great that you have reached this far on the fast.I dint last two days! Which is why I want to ask this - I read somewhere about a partial urine fast which is done for 12 hrs everyday.So on this, one would only have urine and water from 6 am to 6 pm and after that a light supper of fruits, vegetables or boiled brown rice. ... I know this wouldnt be as efficient as a full on fast but will it be any better than having a healthy diet and drinking urine throughout the day? [End]
... Hi Whitelotus, ... ... John Armstrong suggested the diet you mention for sick people who were unable to fast. He also did this himself permanently having only one meal a day and consuming all his urine as his only beverage. ... ... I am 61, I have been practising auto urine therapy (one glass a day of urine) since age 45. I have fasted the last three years for 10-14 days each year and that helps a lot. ... ... I had poor preparation this time so my first 4 days were much harder feeling dizzy, weak and sleepy. ... ... The benefits of auto urine therapy is that my family tell me I look the youngest in my fami ...
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You are doing great! ... This gives me hope to continue with this therapy seriously.Thank you. ... I kept putting off starting on the therapy till I start an absolutely healthy diet. But it wasnt happening so I went ahead and started on it anyway.Good thing that. ... ... Have you completely abstained from eating meat following the therapy? ... ... I’m 24 yrs female and I’m finding that my hairline has been receding which worries me a lil as all of my family has great hair. ... ... Have you been using aged urine on ur bald spot? What has been the effect of your urine therapy on baldness? ... ... Sorry If I’m troubli ...
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I wish there were a forum for urine therapy and women’s hormones. I’ve seen mention of women trying it for fertility and PCOS - of which thinning hair is a symptom. I think this is a really interesting subject. ... ... I have to say... ... ... I hadn’t had a period in a half year, am having a fairly late menopause anyway... ... ... And bam! A month after starting UT, I had a full fledged period. ... ... So it definitely affects hormones, and I think it’s a great idea to try oral UT for your receding hairline. The hormones contained in the morning urine are doubtless what does the balancing.
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Good to know Von Bingen, ... John Armstrong’s message (The Water Of Life) was that you did not need to know anything about the health problem, do the therapy - fasting, drinking most of your urine, massaging all over for as long as possible with urine and also drinking water - and any health problem will be solved as long as you keep it up long enough, the body will heal itself. From his book I got the impression that for minor things fast 7-10 days, for more difficult health issues 21-30 days and for people who start with big health problems up to 59 days. [End]
... Hi Whitelotus, ... ... I will not abstain from meat after my fast, I like it too much! However I am going to be much more discerning about what I eat and especially how much I eat. My general view is that a mostly vegetarian diet is best. There was a TV documentary about how to live past 100 that examined communities worldwide where they had a strong proportion of 100+ people. The common factors from memory were 1)mostly vegetarian diet (and some communities did not have the wonderful variety that we have in supermarkets, so that does not seem to be the key), 2)physically active in a job, 3)v ...
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... Amazingly my energy levels have increased over the last 2-3 days and I am sleeping less with no nap during the day. I need to tire myself out by staying up later to stop waking in the middle of the night unable to go back to sleep. ... ... I am now confident that I can continue with my life without any major restrictions other than exerting myself too much with any one activity. ... ... Yesterday I cooked stir fry as my wife was very busy and I longed to taste it. I saw cake slice on the table and I just wanted to grab one. This happened about this time on the last two fasts so I gave in and stop ...
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Down to 98kg, still losing 1Kg per day, still have a small spare tyre around my middle, feeling good, more energy these last several days than the first week and I am much more confident about what I can do. Went fishing today, 1.5hrs drive, 20mins walk to the end of the pier, left 4hrs later and was very tired when I returned. I had a 2hr nap, got up groggy and gradually regained my strength, feeling fine now after a urine massage and shower. I always feel better after a massage and shower and I love the aged urine which is about 6-7 days old. It has no ammonia smell, not much general odo ...
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On day 18 I have lost a lot of my energy, feeling lethargic and weakened. My weight has not dropped as much as before either, now I am 97kg’s which is 17kg’s drop in 18 days. I just realised that for about 15 years from late twenties I was about 93kg the entire time so I guess I have not gotten down to that yet. Around the time I turned 40 I put on more, at 50 I put on more and at 60 I put on more. Too easy to eat well and not expending lots of energy each day. Interesting that my weight loss is levelling out a bit as I approach that ”ideal” weight. ... ... My first aim is to go past 21 days an ...
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A kilogram a day is a lot of weightloss. I think your body’s slowing down is wise. Congratulations on getting close to your ideal weight. Personally, I think it’s wise for us older ones to carry a bit more padding, for warmth, comfort, and because estrogen (produced by fat cells) protects the brain. ... ... Perhaps your body is changing over from digesting fat to digesting other things, cleaning up the blood from pathogens and fibrous tissues--so important to get to that stage for complete healing, or so I’ve been reading. So again, congratulations are in order! ... ... Hope you feel more energetic ...
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I just realised that my weight has only dropped 1kg in three days! It dropped 1Kg per day up to day 16, now it has slowed. ... My guess is that it is 4kg above my ideal weight at present. I estimate my ideal weight from when I was younger and stabilised at that weight for around 15 years. [End]
Congratulations, that’s encouraging to me as I weighed myself this morning and found I’ve dropped 5 lbs the last two days. I didn’t weigh myself before starting the fast so don’t know how much I’ve lost altogether, but probably 7-8 lbs on the morning of day 4. [End]
Weight loss has slowed a lot, down to 96.6kg averaging .35kg loss per day after day 16. I think I was really fat, but because I am 6’6” tall it did not show that much. Yesterday and today I have had good energy levels again, I was leading a meeting last night from 6 to 10.30pm and a couple of times I thought I was going to faint, but I did not and nobody knew anything. No bowel movements for several days, passed a little wind yesterday, I miss that. I enjoy passing wind. ... Once again I have good energy up to a certain point of exertion which allows me to do many things, I mowed the lawn yes ...
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Sounds like you are thinking of going off the fast. ... ... Do you have a post-fast diet plan? I’ve been reading it is very important to initiate digestion carefully. Even the intestinal flora needs to be replenished. Bile hasn’t moved in three weeks, so fat digestion will be off. ... ... I’m interested in your take on this because I am thinking ahead to my own post-fast diet. THANKS! [End]
Hi VonBingen, ... ... I usually end my fast by doing something similar to the following: ... ... I plan to have a small amount of food (maybe a bit of yogurt, & some small steamed vegie in the evening so I can wake up and enjoy more small meals. ... ... To prepare for that I count backwards by having half an orange 2 hrs before the food, quarter of an orange 2hrs before that, the juice of one carrot before that and a couple of hours before that just a tablespoon of orange juice as my first food. ... ... I have done that before on two occasions after a 13 day and 14 day fast and it worked well. ... ... The followi ...
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You may be transitioning to complex food too quickly. That might screw with your digesting, lead to the development of yeast, and cause food cravings. ... ... I tried to find the link but couldn’t. Earlier today I found a nice webpage talking about how it should be done and it was very logical. I’ll try to reconstruct what I read from memory. ... ... For every five days of fasting, you need to do a ”special diet” that consists of only fruit juice that is ”dead” because living enzymes can overwhelm the system. So, either store-bought juice or juice you press yourself and then simmer for 10-15 minutes ...
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Hi VonBingen, ... ... Thanks for all that, very logical and interesting. However I have decided to end it already because I was feeling really good and could not see a reason to continue. ... ... I began with juice and continued similarly to what I had said previously and this morning had a one egg and cheese omelet. Delicious. ... ... I am not as highly detailed as yourself and Armstrong always got patients straight into it. They ate simply and fresh afterwards with a very gentle start and it seemed to work. ... ... Be assured that you will feel better as time progresses not worse. You need to conquer your ...
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... Hi all, ... ... Late yesterday I decided to break my fast. I was feeling very good, almost as if I was not fasting and my weight loss had declined from 1Kg/day to .35kg/day over the last 4 days. ... ... I got bored with it which I think was a sign that all is well. ... Thank you all for taking notice, it can be done easily, no special requirements, my preparation was poor and the first 3 days were a bit tough as a result, but it can be done at my age without any trouble. ... ... I do not have any real health issues except for the lesion on my arm that would not heal for two years and now is healed over p ...
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59hrs after I stopped I am feeling good. I have to tell myself this is as good as it gets because I will probably never be in this good condition again. ... My skin is beginning to look more youthful at last after about 5 - 6 wks of morning urine massage and more intensively in the last 2 weeks with aged urine. The liver spots are fading, no hair on the bald head which is disappointing, the lesion on my arm that healed over after only 6 days continues to improve slowly, my sore back has disappeared, my eyesight has improved although it changes quite a bit, the painful tendons from my thumbs u ...
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Fantastic news! Congratulations! ... ... I saw some of these changes after my last fast of five days: improved eyesight, clearer mind, more energy, but it quickly reverted. I’m hoping to make at least 14 days this time, we’ll see. ... ... I’m looking into sprouting at the sproutpeople.org site and buying stuff so that I’m prepared when the fast is done to have an in-house source of fresh food. ... ... I remember how wonderful food tasted after fasting... it’s hard not to gorge. [End]
My eating has settled down somewhat now. I was eating like a horse after the first two days which is not what I wanted, but could not control myself. All fresh salads, fruits, nuts and some meat, chicken, fish. Nothing processed so far which is good for me. ... ... I have gone from about 96.5kg to 99 kgs in six days. I feel good at this weight and I do not want to exceed it. I have begun exercising and I will continue to balance that with eating to hopefully stay at this weight. I put on a lot over the last two years (between fasts) and one contributing factor is that I had plantar fasciitis, i ...
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This is day 6 after my 20 day urine and water fast. Before the fast my average blood pressure was 134/84 and now the average for the past week is 108/73. ... ... [End]
Goodbye bowel movements, none yesterday, none today, probably none for the next 24 days! ... Oh well, they always start again as if nothing has happened about 3-4 days after finishing the fast. ... Yesterday I had good energy, still not enough to do strong physical tasks for long, but plenty to hop around the house as needed and water the gardens etc. ... Good news, on my arm the lesion (ulcer or whatever) that began in 2009 as a purple mark under the skin and has been a very small open wound with a 14mm diam scar-like circle around it for the last two years is no longer open and instead of being r ...
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... ... Thanks for keeping us updated! Do you think you could put all your posts together in one thread? This would be more reader-friendly. Just a thought! ... ... Glad the lesion has diminished. I assume you are doing urine massages daily? Were you using urine on the lesion previously? ... ... [End]
Hi, I will try putting it all in one thread, thanks. ... About the lesion, I had tried bandaids soaked in urine replacing daily for a week and did that a few times although not continuously. I also tried the same with silver water, but also no result. ... I had been doing daily massages of it for three weeks prior to the fast also with no noticeable result so this is a great result only 5+ days into the fast. [End]
Feeling much better today, ready to do whatever is necessary. This happened yesterday after I was feeling so weak and feeble and sleeping. I decided to try EFT (emotional freedom techniques, also known as tapping) and it worked like magic although it was not instantaneous, took an hour and the good feeling kept increasing for several hours. ... I now feel bright and active and like doing things, I still run my own business from home and there is much to do, I also did some maintenance yesterday to my fencing even though it was light work. I can only think the unusual feeble feeling was due to ...
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http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1998477 ... ... For people who did not know him his archived forums are here on CZ. As far as I remember he was the only forum owner who supported UT. ... ... Here is an example: ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=489804 [End]
... Yes, I was aware of Moritz’ work, although I wasn’t a ”follower” per se. ... ... Any word yet on the cause of death? People naturally want to know about that. ... ... Glad he supported UT. Did he ever say he did it himself? [End]
Day 4 and I am definitely in ketosis mode. I feel like I am feeble and going to faint if I exert myself but if I push myself I can keep going so it is mainly a feeling. ... I would love to eat something as I pass through the kitchen, I have those habit periods where I instinctively want to get something to eat just because I always have at those times. ... This morning I had a foul, liquid bowel movement which I believe is the buildup of toxins in the gut wanting to be released and should repeat that again for about 5 days going by the past. I need two or three extra naps during the day and I am ...
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I am much more alive today and I blame my sleeps and lack of energy the last two days (compared to other fasts) on the socializing and the plane trips before fasting. I should have given myself another week of good foods, but I want to be over it before it gets too close to Xmas, hoping to last 30 days. 20hrs of flying in one day from Atlanta USA to Australia is a big burden on my body (61yrs) and that was two days before I began this fast. ... ... I want to heal a skin lesion, also post nasal drip and perhaps my occasional hayfever, but I will just have to wait and see. [End]
Day 2 and all is well. Woke up 4.30am, massaged with urine, showered and felt weak. Blood pressure averaged 124/81 and worked at computer till 7.00am. Got back in bed for 1.5hrs, felt very good, now at computer again. Yesterday blood pressure av. was 128/82. I have the hungries every now and again, could not consume all urine as it flowed strongly overnight. Taking water also. Yesterday the flow was not strong at all and I took a few glasses of water. Sometimes it takes a bit to kick in. [End]
Thank you for sharing. I admire you. ... I am still doing fasting 19 hours per day, but often I can’t make it and it becomes less hours. ... Like you always say just restart, so it has been now several weeks. [End]
I must say that the day before which is when I was on mainly fruit and juice was the hardest. Day 1 was next hardest, then day 2, and now day 3 appears to be easiest. ... ... I think it is the withdrawal symptoms we suffer that causes us discomfort. They say withdrawal can occur just for meat and protein, with nicotine being the worst and longest, and coffee and alcohol right up there. I tried giving up the last two a couple of weeks before, but I had the family party and the trip away that caused me to have alcohol close to my fast. ... ... This is the weakest I have been (yesterday) compared to o ...
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Hi all, ... ... I am beginning my urine fast today. I did not have the best preparation with a family day (feast) 10 days ago that saw me indulge in every food possible plus some beer, wine and champagne, I had given up coffee a couple of months earlier and had been eating reasonably well. I got back from 7 days in USA two days ago where I had socialized at the bar with associates and ate massive amounts of meat and very little fresh salad. ... ... On my last day there I had lots of fruit for breakfast, ate well on the plane, and had fruits and steamed vegetables at home. Yesterday was mostly fruits ...
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