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- Goodbye stones!
by gartogcel
10 year
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I did the gall bladder-liver cleanse last night and I had wonderful results. Around 700 ++ stones came out and most are tiny, colored tan and greenish. I guess that entitles me the membership in the flushers club. ... ... The recipe says that by evening I would have recovered. I feel tired and weak until now. I presume its due to the fast that I had. I have not done a parasite cleanse and I presume this could also be one factor. Your comments would be enlightening on this area. ... ... I had a great cleansing flush. Thanks to all that cheered for me. My kids are happy seeing the stones out saving m ...
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- Re: Goodbye stones!
by Amazed
10 year
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Hi there, ... ... The first cleanse I had I felt like a million bucks, but considering I had up to that point had 2+ weeks of pain from a gallbladder attack, having the pain stop was like heaven. The second cleanse I did last weekend took me a couple days to recoup from. I am doing a parasite cleanse, but the fasting did drop my blood sugar and I think the toxins released by my liver as it cleanses itself did a job on me too. Mind, I was able to keep going which was a good thing, I have a baby that doesn’t stop even when I want to. ... Realize that though the cleanse may not seem traumatic to yo ...
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- Re: Goodbye stones!
by gartogcel
10 year
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Hi Amazed, ... ... Yes the elimination of pain is a good by-product of the cleansing. I just a bit surprised that I needed to have a follow up on this a few weeks from now. I will be out of town in a couple of weeks and when I come back I would do the second round. Perhaps during that time I will be able to flush out whatever is remaining there. I seem to be resistant on the thought that some of us here in the forum do the cleansing every other week for a year. ... ... Well anyway, I am glad that I did this rather than the surgery. I am more conscious of my body now and what I eat. ... ... How old is y ...
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- Re: Goodbye stones!
by flowerchild59
10 year
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Did you take the epsom salts this am? It is real important to flush your bowels today to rid it of toxins that come out with the stones. If you could start a parasite cleanse sometime soon it would be wonderful. About 80% of people have critters inside of them and don’t know it. I was one of them. Thought that I didn’t need to do a cleanse. I was wrong and found a piece of a worm embedded in one of my stones during a flush. I started paragone the very next day and passed thousands during the 35 day cleanse. ... PS, drink lots of fluids today to rehydrate yourself. [End]
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- Re: Goodbye stones!
by gartogcel
10 year
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I did take the last 2 batches of epsom salts. I guess I have to take in lots of fluids today because of the fast. Thanks for the reminders. [End]
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- Re: Goodbye stones!
by Anja
10 year
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Good for you! So glad you decided against the surgery! What are you going to tell your doctor? [End]
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- Re: Goodbye stones!
by gartogcel
10 year
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We are sort of religious in this part of the world and when I go to my doctor and tell him I chose to trust God rather than the operation, that wouldn’t be much of a problem. He can continue to count on that sooner or later I will have surgery. I will stand by my desire to trust God and keep my gall bladder. :) [End]
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- Liver flush preparation
by Fiddler
10 year
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Can someone refer me to Liver flush preparation post or site? The flush protocol is well spelled out in Hulda Clark’s book. But could not find the description of the preparation for the flush. ... ... From previous posts I learned to drink up to a 1 gal of apple juice a day for 3-7 days before the flush. ... ... How about the diet during this time? ... Should I fast before the flush? ... Some people recomend gold coin grass. ... Anything else I should know? ... [End]
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- Re: Liver flush preparation/parasite
by Cari
10 year
1,425
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in addition to Fiddler’s question: is it absolutely necessary to complete a months parasite cleanse before the liver flush ? ... I’m on day 2 of parasite cleanse ( Clarke’s ), hoping to do a liver flush a week on sunday, which would be day 12 of Clark’s programme. ... Is this advisable or should I wait until I completed a month’s cleanse ? ... Cari [End]
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- Re: Liver flush preparation/parasite
by flowerchild59
10 year
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REgarding the parasite cleanse, I think you will be fine doing it on the schedule you have. Day 12 of the parasite cleanse should be a good time to do a liver flush. The I would proceed to complete the complete month cleanse and do another flush then. Good luck to you. [End]
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- Re: Liver flush preparation
by hopinso
10 year
2,604
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http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp ... Go to this link and print it out. It will give you a good guideline for doing the flush. ... The apple juice fast comes from another protocol, but I follow it and get good results. The malic acid in the apple juice helps soften and loosen stones. I fast, but you don’t have to until 2 PM the day of the flush. ... I have never used the Gold Coin Grass, some people swear by it, but I have passed well over 2000 stones without anything but apple juice, Epsom salts, olive oil, and lemon juice (or grapefruit) ... ... As for your diet, avoid all white ...
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- Re: Liver flush preparation
by megan
10 year
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Hi there, I haven’t that much experience with these, but here’s what’s worked for me so far: ... ... 1. diet- mainly fruit and veggies (no meat, dairy, eggs, processed foods). At times I’ve had some baked potatoes too. Diet’s important,I think, keeps things moving very well, which is what you want. A juice fast isn’t required, although you can do one if you’d like, BUT, it’s important to break the fast slowly, starting with just fruit or fruit juice, and then easing back into eating again. You can flush after that. The thing not to do is break a fast with a half cup oil, which is what would b ...
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- Recommendations on motivational postings, also Dr. experience...
by Anja
10 year
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I know a lady who needs to do a liver/gallbladder flush, but is afraid to try it. Can anyone recommend any particularly motivating postings I can print out for her of other people’s experiences? I just ran off the one from ”Amazed.” I’ve run across great ones over the past year and should have started collecting them. ... ... BTW, I do independently contracted work for physicians and told one who I’m in close contact with about how much the flushing has helped my health and the results I’ve had. He told me I’ve lost my mind. Somewhere on this site there has to be a cleanse for helping him ...
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- Hi Anja!
by Southern Belle
10 year
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Inspirational posts are EVERYWHERE on this website. You may have to dig a little to find them. Look for ones that we have been marked as ”R” or ”R&N”!! ... ... Good luck and good health to you! ... Paulette G. [End]
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- Re: Motivational postings ...
by Spirit
10 year
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As Southern Belle said, Motivational postings are everywhere. ... ... Here are few direct links to R&N messages: /forums/fd50.asp?f=170&c=2 ... ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=188&c=2 ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=198&c=2 ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=221&c=2 ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=228&c=2 ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=246&c=2 ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=252&c=2 ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=262&c=2 ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=265&c=4 ... /forums/fd50.asp?f=277&c=4 ... [End]
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- When old symptoms appear from flush?
by nspeth
10 year
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I am wondering about this. When we flush and stir things up old symptoms come back. How do I know when it goes away again that it is gone and not ”stored”? The symptom I have is an itchy spot on the back of my head. I had this about 5 or 6 years ago and used lots of Cortisone cream to make it go away. It is now back. It actually came after my first flush. I’ve since done a second and it is still there. I am putting a homeopathic cream, Florasone, on it. What do you all think? I’m curious. [End]
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- Re: When old symptoms appear from flush?
by Spirit
10 year
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When old symptoms appear from flush, that is the best sign that flush is exactly what you need. ... ... In other words, you are on the healing path, and those symptoms are the proof. ... ... Read 10 - 100 messages about flushing, and you will get the idea. ... ... ... ... Hering’s Law of Cure ... ... Constantine Hering, M.D. (1800-1880) observed that healing occurs in a consistent pattern. He described this pattern in the form of three basic laws which homeopaths can use to recognize that healing is occurring. This pattern has been recognized by acupuncturists for hundreds of years and is also used by practition ...
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- Re: When old symptoms appear from flush?
by #85605
6 year
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I have read Herings law many times before and never thought much about it. However I now wonder if going thru all the healing in reverse is something I could take without a lot of support. I know all emotions are stored in the liver. Just thinking about re-liveing some past experiences scares me to death. Is this what can happen with a liver cleanse? While I was doing some of Dr. Schulze liver cleanse I woke up one morning after having horrible nightmares. Actually it passed because later I couldn’t remember what they were about. But there was considerable re-hydration from the sweati ...
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- Dad's PSA went down 8 points in one month
RN by recpapi
10 year
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I don’t know if any of you remember us - but my Dad and I did a flush a few weeks ago (following Larry Clapp’s book for prostate cancer). My Dad got his PSA count back today and it is down 8 points from a month ago when we started the flush!! He isn’t doing anything else different, so we owe it all to the change in lifestyle. Thanks everyone for your support!! We’ll do another flush soon! [End]
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- Question about liver flush
by erik98225
10 year
1,309
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Does it hurt? ... ... If I flush on Saturday, how bad will I feel on Sunday? [End]
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- Re: Question about liver flush
by hopinso
10 year
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It does not hurt at all. Some of the ingredients taste bad, but there is nothing you can’t get down. Some people feel nauseous after drinking the oil, others have no problem with it. Depending on how many stones and toxins you have, you may feel weak or a little ill Sunday morning, but it shouldn’t last too long. I have gotten up and gone to church on Sundays after a Saturday night flush. Everyone reacts a little differently, but most come through the flush with little trouble. [End]
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- Re: Question about liver flush
by Amazed
10 year
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If you are doing Dr. Clarks flush using the epsom salts and such, there is no pain! I’ve done it twice and had great results. The second time I felt a little sick that evening and into the next morning but that was all, it was because my blood sugar dropped a bit. There was no cramping or anything. I even stopped a major gallbladder attack with the first cleanse! I was scared out of my wits but I figured it was better than surgery, feeling like crap and all the rest that go with it. By 10am I was back on my feet just fine (I still had to stay close to a bathroom till evening but I fe ...
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- Re: Question about liver flush
by flowerchild59
10 year
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I have done 7 flushes since June and can honestly say that it does not hurt. Follow the directions closely, I used the Hulda protocal. I think that if you do it successfully and see how much better you feel, you will explore other options and what you can do for better health. That is when you read more, and choose what will work into your life the easiest. I finished a parasite cleanse and am gearing up to do more bowel cleansing. I feel 100% better since I began flushing my liver (lost my gb last year to lack of knowledge in a timely fashion). Good luck to year. Ask any questions ...
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- Re: Question about liver flush
by gartogcel
10 year
1,255
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I flushed just last night at around 10pm (drank the olive oil and lemon juice - grapefruit is seasonal here). It’s almost 12 hours since I had the flush and it doesn’t hurt. I feel light maybe because of the fasting but overall it’s a good feeling to get rid of the stones. ... ... Just do it. I have doubts myself until the few minutes that I have to take it in. First time is always the hardest time. ... ... Be strong. ... ... [End]
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- Re: Question about liver flush
by Anja
10 year
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More than likely, if you are going to feel bad it will be during the night or early morning. I’ve done it 3 times and have never had pain, but on the last one woke up at 6:00 very sweaty, lightheaded and nauseated for about 15 minutes before passing a big bowful of bright green stones, more than I’ve had on the first 2 combined, I think. In all honesty, that episode was a little scary because I thought I was going to black out or something, but I didn’t and it passed pretty quickly, after which I felt much better. All 3 times at one point during the flush I thought, this sucks, I feel s ...
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- Interstitial Cystitis and cleanse? help please!
by Amazed
10 year
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I decided to make this a seperate posting. My sucess story is also posted. My sister is beginning to have problems similar to those I was having, her doctor is treating her for gastritis (sounds like the same route they used on me). My sis don’t think thats whats wrong at all, she knows what that feels like. She wants to try the cleanse but is afraid . . . She has major problems with CHRONIC INTERSTITIAL CYSTITIS that she has finally gotten under control with diet and suppliments and don’t want to have it flare up again. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE CLEANSE MIGHT FLARE IT UP? If the Epsom ...
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- To Amazed
by bevpirt
10 year
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Go to the Urinary Frequency Problems Forum and read some of gettingwell’s posts. Thanks. ... ... B [End]
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- Re: Interstitial Cystitis and cleanse? help please!
by BethDogg
10 year
3,511
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Amazed - ... ... I have IC and have been cleansing for the past two months. First of all, your sister should NOT under any circumstances consume any citrus fruits or juices. I have done all three cleanses with apple juice and I have had very good luck with it. But the question is, do apples bother her? Is she better by improving her diet by alkalizing? I almost want to take this discussion offline because there are so many different things that could be an issue. ... ... I think IC people do not just have IC wrong with them, people with IC have poor health in general and poor liver health is ...
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- Re: Interstitial Cystitis and cleanse? help please!
by flowerchild59
10 year
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I don’t know but you might want to check over on Andreas forum. [End]
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- CLEANSE SUCESS!
RN by Amazed
10 year
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Hi all, ... ... I’m new and just gotta say I’m ’amazed’. I did the gallbladder/liver cleanse about 3 weeks ago for the first time and stopped a sever gallbladder attack in process and passed 200+ tan to greenish-tan coloured stones, no real green ones. The pain stopped within 20 minutes of taking the first dose of epsom salts and I haven’t had any since! This is after 5+ years with 8+ bad attacks and 4 severe attacks. One that left me hospitalized for a week on IV to treat dehydration caused by vomiting and pain and a drop in weight from 120lb to 98lb (I’m 5’4”, 98lb is very small for me). ...
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- Re: CLEANSE SUCESS!
by flowerchild59
10 year
1,250
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Wow, what a great cleanse story. Keep up the good work and health to you. [End]
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- Re: CLEANSE SUCESS!
by gartogcel
10 year
1,301
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Me too! I started last night and at this time (7am) I am still in the process of passing out the stones - green, tan, etc. As of counting, I have passed out roughly about 500 stones. Tiny ones but the one that really caught my attention was the .6cm stone that the ultrascan showed a few months ago. I said, ”there it is!” ... ... [End]
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- Re: CLEANSE SUCESS!
by hopinso
10 year
1,290
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Congratulations on getting that stone out. How great you were able to know what you had in you, and to know it was out. [End]
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- The most active forum at Cure Zone
by DesertRat
10 year
1,309
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Well, we are about to conclude Liver Flush Forum #20, easily the most popular forum. I wonder if the upcoming Cure Zone redesign has anything to do with finding a better way to archive all our old messages, and to list all the forums without the list being a mile long because of a hundred liver flush forums. It won’t take that long to get to 100 at the rate they are speeding up. ... ... For comparison: ... ... LF Forum #1 took 5 months to fill up (to 1000 messages). ... LF Forum #20 will have taken 24 or 25 days. ... ... I’ll say it for you: ... I don’t have enough to do. ... Too much time on my hands. ... Blah bl ...
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- Re: The most active forum at Cure Zone
by BethDogg
10 year
1,129
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... Hey, that’s cool. And everyone is getting better and better. This forum is the best. Last weekend’s ”I’m cleansing, who’s with me?” post and just about everyone jumping on board was great. As someone earlier said, We should all pat ourselves on the back. :) [End]
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- Old Flusher Needs New Advice
by hopinso
10 year
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After more than a year of doing liver flushes, I thought I had all this figured out. Last week I did a successful (200+ stones) flush. I had one large oblong stone, bright emeral green in color, that contained a parasite. On the previous flush two weeks before, I noticed something that looked like opaque tissue passed with the last of the stones. Anyway I have ordered a parasite cleanse that will arrive next Monday. I am wondering if I should do another flush before starting it, or wait until the cleanse is over. For the first time ever, I have not fully recovered from Friday’s flush (this ...
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- What did the parasite look like? (n/t)
by Mangala
10 year
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What did the parasite look like? (n/t) [End]
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- Re: What did the parasite look like? (n/t)
by hopinso
10 year
1,441
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The parasite in the stone was about 1/2 inch long, 1/8 inch wide and pretty flat. I may have passed some more the next day, but I’m not sure, I was feeling ill and did a salt water flush. I looked, but did not go ”fishing”. These were not in stones, just flat bodies larger than the one in the stone. [End]
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- Re: What did the parasite look like? (n/t)
by alisaun
10 year
1,468
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hopinso, ... ... if it was flat, could it have been a tapeworm or part of one? Let me see if I can find anything else that looks like it too. There’s this webiste.... ... ... A. [End]
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- Re: Old Flusher Needs New Advice
by alisaun
10 year
1,599
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Hopinso, ... ... So my guess is you stirred up parasites. You may feel ill for awhile while they die off. ... ... When i stirred up my parasites just doing a bowel cleanse/colema I was massively sick for six days from the die-off symptoms. So on the one hand it is great that you got them riled up, but now you want to get them out as quicky and expiditiously was possible. ... ... Have you had diarrea? Your fast is a good idea. Starve the buggers - they hate healthy stuff. This will help kill them much faster. Get some raw pumkin seeds while you wait for your parasite formula. Also eat a few raw gar ...
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- More Questions For Alisaun
by hopinso
10 year
1,545
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My first thought was a tapeworm, my dogs used to get them when they were younger and chased, caught and ate wild rabbits. I always took them to the vet. and had them treated. The segment did look something like what the dogs used to pass, only larger. I thought tapeworms were intestinal, can they get in the liver too? ... I’ve been eating raw pumkin seeds for a long time. I also use a lot of garlic and cayenne. I just hope the wormwood/walnut hull/clove combo will kill these critters. ... I don’t have diareah, just the opposite, I even did a SWF this morning. My gallbladder is hurting even thoug ...
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- Re: More Questions For Alisaun
by alisaun
10 year
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I have heard that tapeworms are some of the hardest parasites to get rid of. I really think also that die-off symptoms can manifest in a ton of ways, so I wouldnt worry too much about your liver. ... ... I asked my boss who is a microbiologist about the rotten egg burps. She confirmed for me that that was a very interesting, very specific symptom of some sort of organism acutivity. The rotten egg taste is the sulfides, or sulfur element that is a waste product of certain organisms! Of course, I’m not sure which ones. ... ... So, to me the rotten egg is a SURE sign of parasite die off. I got thi ...
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- Re: More Questions For Alisaun
by hopinso
10 year
1,553
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Thanks for the information. I was pretty complacent when I first visited the Parasite forum, I thought I was pretty clean. Now that I know I’m not, I’m a little freaked out. ... My advice on the Master Cleanse is to go for it. Do it one day at a time without setting any unrealistic goals. Count everyday completed as a victory. If you chose not to complete the suggested ten days, do not see it as a defeat or failure. Instead, look back at what you accomplished and remember there are always second chances. Good luck, the MC is hard, but worth it. ... ... BTW-how do you feel about CoQ10 for tapeworm ...
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- Re: More Questions For Alisaun
by alisaun
10 year
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That’s not a bad idea for myself to explore either, the CoQ10. My parasites are so tenacious. I have only read in passing about CoQ10 and parasites but I am very curious about it. Let me know what you find out about it - I think if it works I would definitely try it. ... ... Thanks for the advice about the MC. I will do it soon so thank you, I think I may have enough courage now! ... ... Ali [End]
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- Re: hopinso - parasite site
by alisaun
10 year
1,524
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So I found this website - all of the names are in latin but it has some helpful pictures to help identify parasites a bit. Click on either ”Trematoda” or ”Cestoda” when you scroll down and start looknig at pictures. I saw a few that might qualify. ... ... I also passed what looked like raw tuna, it was flat but maybe a quarter of an inch wide, 1/8 inch high and 2-3 inches long. it was sort of red fleshy looking. ... ... Can you describe your worm a bit more as to the color and dimensions? I really still think you are having die off symptoms but I’m curious to see if its like theones I passed at ...
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- Re: Old Flusher Needs New Advice
by wellnessyoga
10 year
1,523
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Flat? Mabe it was a liver or intestinal fluke? I have passed those critters, too. You can look at the pictures of flukes in the parasite section, this might help identifying what you had. ... I don’t think you would mess up a parasite cleanse by doing a liver flush( I have had no trouble with it). ... But if you are already feeling week, perhaps the toxins the little aliens are giving off is all your body wants to deal with for now? ... Wishing you much sucess! ... [End]
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- Re: Old Flusher Needs New Advice
by dsss27
10 year
1,438
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Go to the Zapper forum and see is there is anything there of use. [End]
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- Have you tried zapping - here's a story
by Anja
10 year
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A bodyworker I see regularly for craniosacral therapy has had a ”pushing up” feeling in her gallbladder area for quite a long time. She just came off a 7 day fast with not much in the way of results. She started zapping with a ”Dual Zapper” that they sell at the health food store where her mom works (it’s a variation on Hulda’s with handholds, but they are not copper - I think they are stainless steel? There was some reason for that.) Anyway, I think she said it was 5 days later that she passed a gelatinous sac of little white things that’s she’s sure are parasites, and that feeling sh ...
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- Re: Have you tried zapping - here's a story
by Robbie_Calif
10 year
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That’s right Anja. We just have to do the best we can because we will never be able to get away from all the toxins that surround us in our society today. I never gave my zapper enough of a chance to see if it works so I don’t know. I am just cleansing my bowel and going to embark on my 3rd flush in the near future. ... I had a bad experience the 2nd one because my bowel was still kind of clogged so I am doing home colemas. ... By the way, It’s the old Robbie everyone knows. I had to change my user name becasue of computer difficulties. ... Take care, ... Robbie [End]
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- Can I Ozonate the Olive Oil???
by sthrapp
10 year
1,709
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In Dr Clarks TapeWorm cleans she says to use 1/2 tbs of ozonated olive oil twice a day but not more that 1 tbs as a one time dose. Now in the her Liver Cleanse I see that she says to use 1/2 cup of olive oil and ozonate it for best results. Can you really drink 1/2 a cup of ozonated olive oil without it harming you??? 1/2 cup is a lot more than 1 tbs and it makes me wonder if it’s okay to do. ... ... I would prefer to ozonate it if it’s safe to take that much. I did one liver cleanse before without ozonating the olive oil and got almost no results. [End]
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- What does it do?
by DesertRat
10 year
1,395
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I am just curious, what is the ozonation supposed to do for the olive oil? The only purpose I know that process to be used for is sterilization. And most sterilization procedures are harmful to food quality, so I am curious to know why Dr. Clark does it. ... ... Oh, and yes, you can drink a half cup of olive oil without it harming you. If your body decides it is too much to digest, you will vomit it back out, but that’s the worst that will happen. ... [End]
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- liver/gallbladder duct
by Cari
10 year
1,453
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Hi, ... does the liver/gallbladder drain into the large or the small intestine ? ... Also when doing liver flushes, where does one feel the stones moving ? ... I have been passing a lot of neon green stuff and small pebbley looking yellow things during a bowel cleanse/juice fast yesterday and had some very localised, mild pain to the lower left of my belly button. Could this be stones that are stuck in the duct ? ... ... Maybe a stupid question, but I am new to all this and like to find out whats going on... ... Thanks, ... Cari [End]
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- Re: liver/gallbladder duct
by Fil
10 year
1,450
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Hi Cari, they drain into the duodenum which is between your stomach and the small intestine. I never feel the stones moving but others feel them in the liver/gallbladder area which is on the right side of your chest. You may feel pain in the gallbladder just below your right rib cage. ... ... The neon green stuff and possibly even the yellow pebbles are mostly likely bile from your liver/GB. It indicates that your liver is very congested and you need to do a liver flush. ... ... The pain in your belly is more likely colon pain. There are no bile ducts lower left of your belly button. You may hav ...
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- Re: liver/gallbladder duct
by Cari
10 year
1,372
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Thanks Fil, ... I am doing a bowel cleanse/juice fast with enemas and a parasite cleanse at the moment...the liver cleanse is on the cards as soon as I finished the parasite. ... I read that liver flush can be unpleasant, especially if you have parasites, so I decided to go safe and do the parasite cleanse. ... I’m only on day 4 but already have more energy. ... Cari [End]
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- gallbladder cleanse
by gartogcel
10 year
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Hey guys, I am doing the cleanse a few hours from now. Cheer for me. [End]
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- I have my pom poms!
by Southern Belle
10 year
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Good luck and good health! I am with you all the way! ... ... Paulette G. [End]
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- Go Gart Go!!!!!!
by flowerchild59
10 year
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Rhetorically speaking. Have a great flush. [End]
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- Re: Go Gart Go!!!!!!
by gartogcel
10 year
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I did have a great one, so surprised hundreds came out. The first batch had around 75 stones, all tiny ones 1 - 5 mm, some are even less. But what really caught my attention was the 0.6cm one that the ultra scan revealed months ago. ... ... Does this make me a bonafide member of the flushers club? [End]
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- OWWWWWWW!!! MY LIVER!
by erik98225
10 year
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HELP!! I think I fried my liver... and I’m only 24. ... ... A few years back, I went through a period of abusive drinking -- on the order of 4 to 8 bottles of beer daily for 6 months. At the end of the 6 months, I started experiencing what I now know are all the classic symptoms of a slow liver... ... ... * Dizziness ... * Brain fog... feeling ”out of it” ... * Hunger and nausea at the same time ... * Severe one-sided headache ... ... Although I did not know what these symptoms were at the time, it was actually the appearance of these symptoms that scared me into not drinking. I didn’t touch any alcohol for a ...
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- Re: Liver Flushes Rule!!!
by alisaun
10 year
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Hi Erik, ... ... It sounds like you have really good instincts about your health and your body. Good for you! It took me meany years to get to the point that you seem to have gotten to in a short while! ... ... My first recommendation would be to ditch the milk thistle pills and get a milk thistle tincture (that’s the same thing only in liquid form). This is WAY more powerful and more effective for your system. Dandelion is also excellent for liver. ... ... Now, I practically want to shout this to the mountaintops, DO A LIVER FLUSH ASAP!!!!! There is SO much good information on this site about that. ...
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- Re: OWWWWWWW!!! MY LIVER!
by Anja
10 year
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Yes! Start flushing! If you can wait a little while longer, you might want to do bowel and parasite cleansing first. Read all over this site and educate yourself on the procedures and other people’s experiences. If I were you, I’d lay off the alcohol for awhile and avoid various other poisons - pharmaceuticals, hydrogenated oil, fried foods, sugar, white flour, coffee, chlorinated/fluoridated water, etc. to give your liver a rest and help it detoxify. It’s still got to handle environmental toxins & the like that you can’t realistically avoid. Don’t get overwhelmed by it - one step at ...
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- Re: OWWWWWWW!!! MY LIVER!
by BethDogg
10 year
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... Where you say your pain is isn’t your liver, it’s your gallbladder, and if your Dr. didn’t know that, he really has no idea what he’s doing. The liver flush will help you. Also, just taking epsom salts in apple juice (between 1 teaspoon and 1 tablspoon) will help relieve the pain. Also, a heating pad and castor oil packs (search for them on this web page) will help too. ... ... Read everything everyone else said too, but also try sensiblehealth.com, there’s a lot of info on the galbladder and liver there too. Hope you’re feeling better soon. ... ... bd htt://www.sensiblehealth.com ...
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- Re: OWWWWWWW!!! MY LIVER!
by Fil
10 year
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I agree. My first gallbladder attack, I didn’t know the gallbladder existed and decided the flu I’d had, had gone into my liver and hence the pain. When I finally went to the doctor, I found out that the liver is silent - it doesn’t feel pain. The pain is in the bile ducts and the gallbladder. So I think you got stones honey!! Start flushing. ... ... Also, why waste your money. You’ve already bought the milk thistle tabs. Take those and when they’re done get the tincture. Or take both at the same time. ... ... I agree, sounds like sensiblehealth.com is the best for liver herbs/tinctures. ... ... Edu ...
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- Re: OWWWWWWW!!! MY LIVER!
by hopinso
10 year
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You’ve been given some good advice and I don’t have much to add. I messed up my liver with too much pain meds. I had lots of gallstones and liver stones. As I got rid of them my brain fog has lifted, and the one sided headaches (usually migraines or other vascular headaches) are greatly reduced. I still have some digestive problems, but they usually occur only when I don’t eat right. ... Start with the milk thistle, I took capsules and they worked for me. Foods that are good and naturally cleansing to the liver include citrus fruits and juices, apples and apple juice, carrots and carrot juic ...
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- Re: OWWWWWWW!!! MY LIVER!
by elly
10 year
1,552
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I’m right there with ya bro, i never new wut was giong on with me either , i had and ahve the same symptoms as u as to drinking heavily for like 3-4 yrs n with a few small lay off periods , thought nothing of it , jus thought i burnt out due to too much weight training or something and im only 22 now ! when u do a flush let me know , im doing a bowel cleanse first then kidney, n liver , take care and good luck bud ! Jeff [End]
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- Gallbladder Galore!
by KowalskiTurn
10 year
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... ... I desperately want to keep this piece-part (my GB) because I don’t like the post-operative complaints I’ve read about. I also figure it must have been put there for a reason. ... ... I’ve used antacids and activated charcoal to control symptoms for several years. They work well when used before an ”attack” starts. ... ... SO here are a few questions: ... ... 1) Has anyone had an ultrasound showing calcified stones before a flush/GCG? ... 2) Did the number of stones in the GB decrease in a post-flush ultrasound? ... 3) Epsom salt is supposed to dilate the bile duct opening at the intestine. Are there any me ...
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- Re: Gallbladder Galore!
by flowerchild59
10 year
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Glad to hear that you are willing to try flushing. You said that you have had high triglycerides your whole life. See the posting below regarding this matter. My TG went down significantly with flushing. I quit my lipitor in June and have never felt better. My liver is working better and living without pain and diarrhea is wonderful. [End]
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- Re: Gallbladder Galore!
by Fil
10 year
1,308
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I think we’d all like to see that definitive proof. There have been some (Spirit may be able to help out here). I’ll tell you what I know. ... ... People say the es dilates the bile ducts. Basically we all quote each other and I’ve never seen an actual medical study on this. However, magnesium is a known muscle relaxant so to my mind es works as both a muscle relaxant and laxative. The stones need a clear passage out of your body. So I think any of the magnesium based colon cleansing products are fine. A lot of us find that warm water with epsom salts helps when we are having an attack. ... ...
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- master cleanse
by hiplanter
10 year
607
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I have been on the master cleanse for 5 days and am experiencing sores in my mouth and numbness. Anyone else had this problem [End]
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- to ANJA: about upper cervical
by ocron
10 year
1,135
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i tried to send you an email twice about contacting you about getting info on this adjustment but i am not sure if they got thru to you. it has been quite a few weeks since i sent the emails and i have not heard from you. maybe i sent them to the wrong address. not sure. if you are still interested in getting the info to me, please respond to this message. ... ... thank you [End]
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- Re: to Ocron - I don't think I got your mail
by Anja
10 year
1,070
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Yes, I’d be happy to send you some information, and my boyfriend, who works at my chiropractor’s office as a bodyworker said he would be happy to talk to you on the phone about it if you wanted to call him. He can explain it much better than I can. I’m not sure why I didn’t get your mails, but I’ve been using the Spam reporting feature on AOL, and I might have accidentally blocked your e-mails, I’m not sure. I get so much spam every day that I frequently delete and block them without looking carefully at the sender if I don’t recognize it right away. If you want to try again, here’s my ...
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- Liver flush with hepatitis B career
by Kannitha
10 year
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I know that I am a hepatis B career for long time ago but it didn’t disturb me. Until last few months, I feel abnormal at the right side of my back and often got fever. Then I went to see doctors right away. The check-up results showed that I have many stones in bile ducts intrahepatic, one of the stone is 23 mm, and all the fonctins of my liver are limited. One doctor said that it is in the early stage of cirrhosis. The same common from all doctors is that I should do operation as soon as possible. ... I’ve read many massages in this forum about liver flush and its result, but I still can’t ...
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- Re: Liver flush with hepatitis B career
by hanna
10 year
1,686
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... ... ... Kannitha, ... ... I suggest you put your question on ”Ask Andreas Moritz” forum. ... ... He can give you an explanation about your situation and I would expect him to say ”start flushing”. ... ... Most of us are doing well with the flushes, but I don’t know anything about or anyone that is a Hepatitus B carrier. ... ... Have my best wishes and follow through, ... Johanna [End]
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- Re: Liver flush with hepatitis B career
by alisaun
10 year
3,110
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A liver flush will absolutely help in this regard. To a certain extent the liver is able to repair itself, despite what medical science has to say. Hep B is such a liver based disease and you would benefit so much from doing a liver flush. You have so much to gain by doing this - clearing out disease and viral load from the liver itself, flushing out areas that are damaged and festering (hence the cirrhosis). It doesn’t matter what form of hepatitis you have, it will still work. I would also recommend some serious milk thistle and/or dandelion, this really helps clean and maintain the ...
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- Re: Liver flush with hepatitis B career
by Kannitha
10 year
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Thanks for all your responding and comments, e.g. Ali.I know most members have enough experiences in doing liver flush, but I still not clear about all substances using for flush such as Epsom salt or Olive oil, does it affect on liver fonctions or not. I worry that after I do it my liver would develop faster into a negative way because now some indicators of the blood test increased up to three times more than the normal such as transaminase and GGT. ... Welcome for comment, suggestion, advice,... ... [End]
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- Re: Liver flush with hepatitis B career
by alisaun
10 year
1,743
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Dear Kannitha, ... ... I understand your concerns. Liver flushing is a very different sort of ”hands-on” direct approach to cleaning out your liver. And yes, stuff will definitely get stirred up. What you will be doing is like shouting ”fire” in a crowded theater. Everyone heads for the exits at once. So it will go with the toxins in your liver. ... ... So, theoretically, if you did a liver panel during this time, your levels will most probably be raised. However, this is not something to be concerned about, it is just the natural process of your liver finally being able to get the toxins out. ...
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- Re: Liver flush with hepatitis B career
by Spirit
10 year
1,599
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Do some bowel and parasites cleansing, and start flushing as soon as possible. ... ... You don’t need surgery! You need better diet and better lifestyle. You need flushes! ... ... You have a long way to go ... keep us updated along the road ... [End]
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- scheduled for operation
by gartogcel
10 year
1,276
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Hi, I am scheduled for gall bladder surgery because I have stones measuring .6 cm diagnosed last January. I have doubts in doing the olive oil flushing but have greater fears in post operation consequences should I pursue surgery. Your opinions, suggestions, advices would be most welcome in the next 24-48 hours. ... ... Thanks. [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by valerie
10 year
1,300
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I would say cancel your operation. I have passed about 7-10 stones that were 1/2 inch in diameter. And I have passed over 1200 stones that were smaller than that. Read more on this website and you’ll find many success stories of people passing stones much bigger than .6 cm. Your bile ducts open plenty big when you are doing the flushes, thanks to the epsoms salts! I would encourage you to try flushing them out yourself... we will be here to guide you through the process! Good luck! ... ... Val [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by gartogcel
10 year
1,238
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Thanks for responding Val. I have read three different versions of flushing out gall stones using olive oil and lemon juice. What method did you use, the one using epsom salts? [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by Fil
10 year
1,338
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At 0.6cm I would say you are darn lucky!!! Mine are 1cm and others here have stones over 2cm. The calcified stones are harder to get out and you may need a few flushes to get them. Each flush will gradually clear the bile ducts of your liver and you will feel enormous health benefits. ... ... In the meantime, start on Gold Coin Grass as soon as possible (see www.sensiblehealth.com). It’s a Chinese herb that dissolves/breaks down the stones. It takes a while but it does work. One poster has a 2.74mm that reduced down to 2.3mm (from memory) in 6 months. OK, that’s slow but it won’t take lo ...
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by gartogcel
10 year
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Thanks for the info. We don’t have epsom salts here in our drugstores. Any other substitute for this? [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by BethDogg
10 year
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... Ask about epsom salts. They may be behind the counter at your drug store. You can also easily order them online. They will open your bile ducts. I have been experiencing lots of gall bladder pain in the past two months and the only thing that immediately removes the pain is epsom salts (because it opens the bile ducts). I also recommend Gold Coin Grass as someone earlier mentioned. That stuff is great, has also helped relieve my pain. ... ... Personally, I wouldn’t do a liver flush without the epsom salts. You want those bile ducts to be open when you try to pass stones. ... ... Oh, and ...
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by flowerchild59
10 year
1,330
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Well said Fil. I can’t add too much more than what he said. I had my gb out last year (please do a search and look at some of my posting regarding this matter). GB surgery did not fix my symptoms because my liver was full of stones too. I cont to have pain, nausea, indigestion, diarrhea and all of that. My doc said that it will go away after surgery. Well he lied. It wansn’t pain and symptom free until I did 5 flushes. I passed stones from my liver as large as a quarter (I have pics in the liver flush gallery) See my pic link below. I just finished my 7th flush and feel wonder ...
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by alisaun
10 year
1,216
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Hi there, ... ... I really don’t have much to add either since I echo what everyone else posted here. I am pretty sure that somewhere in your drug store there are epsom salts. Sometimes they put them in weird places in the store because they are also used for soaking and baths. But I strongly encourage you to do the Hulda Clark flush with the epsom salts. I have gotten a ton of stones out this way, and had the support of people on this forum the whole time to boot! ... ... Blessings, ... ... Ali ... ... [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by gartogcel
10 year
1,237
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Thanks for all your responses and the care that goes along with it. I texted my doctor last night that I will postpone my operation for the next two days. Today I will look for that GCG and the epsom salts. A day or two from now I will take the flush. ... ... Will that mean I will not take in something solid starting today until tomorrow? Please advise. [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by alisaun
10 year
1,280
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Fasting is best because your body can fully redirect all neccesary energy to flushing out the stones. If you do the Hulda Clark protocol, you don’t eat or drink anything after 2 pm the day of the flush. Stick to light nonfat food if you have to in the morning. Good luck! ... ... Ali [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by gartogcel
10 year
1,259
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Thanks Ali. There is a drugstore far away that has epsom salts and I will buy them a few hours from now. I had a light breadfast this morning and will follow the Hulda Clark flushing recipe. Pray for me. [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by alisaun
10 year
1,289
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You got it gart! I am praying as we speak. What an amazing opportunity for you to take charge of your health! Please let me know how it goes. You can email me at alisaun@yahoo.com. ... ... Good luck!!!!! ... ... Blessings, ... ... Ali [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by tracysway
10 year
1,293
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I strongly suggest you cancel your operation. For one thing this does not prevent any future gall stones and they will remain in your liver thus enlarging it. I took over 500 gall stones out of one women who had her gall bladder removed ten years ago. She had an enlarged liver and was very overweight including a prolaspe stomach. The cleanse used was three tbs Epson salt in a glass of water drunk one hour before drinking 5 cups fifteen minutes apart of 3 tbs unrefined olive oil mixed with 2 tbs lemon juice and water. Use a straw to bypass the taste buds and a little maple syrup to sweeten ...
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- Re: scheduled for operation
by hanna
10 year
1,300
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... ... Please read the thread on page 15: ”Tried 1st liverflush to prevent GB surgery” by Shabodien001. ... ... Besides the good advise, it will also show you, when your body is healthy, you can live with gallstones. ... ... Improve your diet and drink lots of water!!!! ... ... ... Good luck! ... Johanna [End]
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- Re: scheduled for operation...to tracysway
by Blueduck
10 year
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I cannot imagine shitting in the bath tub. Do you really do that and if you do, how do you disinfect it afterwards ? ... ... I shit in a collanderplaced in the toilet so the stones can be counted. That is how most people on this forum do it. ... ... ... The cleanse used was three tbs Epson salt in a glass of water drunk one hour before drinking 5 cups fifteen minutes apart of 3 tbs unrefined olive oil mixed with 2 tbs lemon juice and water The cleanse used was three tbs Epson salt in a glass of water drunk one hour before drinking 5 cups fifteen minutes apart of 3 tbs unrefined olive oil mixed with 2 ...
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- So proud of my fellow flushers!!
by valerie
10 year
1,185
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I just wanted to encourage you all and tell you how proud I am of all of us. We have gone against the grain and not listened to the bad advice of doctors telling probably all of us, ”if you don’t get that gb removed, you’ll end up in the ER!” Like alot of you, I have just pushed forward and decided to take care of my body my own way and I am feeling so much better and I’m so happy I was able to keep my gb. Doing flushes takes courage, especially the first time... so good job everyone! We are a special group and I think we deserve a pat on the back!! ... ... Val [End]
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- Re: So proud of my fellow flushers!!
by Fil
10 year
1,126
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Thanks Val, I’ll second that! My doc told me ten years ago I’d be back within 2 years begging to have my gb out as I wouldn’t be able to handle the pain. Well here I am and only get little twinges and some discomfort from time to time! [End]
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- Re: So proud of my fellow flushers!!
by flowerchild59
10 year
1,126
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Amen to that Val. It feels great to have the knowledge on what to do to make my body better. I am in the healthcare field, but believe me, they don’t teach flushing in school. Only in the real world like Curezone do you get the education that you truly need. [End]
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- To all flushers!
by alex
10 year
1,412
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from my experience and reading through archives, ... ... i think its best if we do the liver flush with epsom salts with water only, i did it like this the first time and got at least 200 stones. ... ... second time i mixed epsoms with grape fruit juice and the results were not promising, i think its best to tolerate bad taste so we can get good results and not waste our time. ... ... just my 2 cents, ... ... also i have read from others who have experience the same as i have. ... ... so imma go back to the nasty epsom and h20! [End]
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- Re: To all flushers!
by valerie
10 year
1,319
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I personally have done the epsoms with water and with organic apple juice and I had much better results with the organic apple juice. With my water and epsoms, I passed 150 stones, and my last flush with organic apple juice produced 575 stones. My 2 cents is that it doesn’t really matter. So, you might as well go the route of better tastes :) Just my opinion. ... ... Val [End]
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- Re: To all flushers!
by mydogsbestfriend
10 year
1,313
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Could you elaborate? What was your routine? Do I understand you did not use the oil/grapefruit, using apple juice instead? I wonder if apple cider has the same effect? [End]
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- Valerie...
by littlewings
10 year
1,358
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575 stones in one flush! WOW. Impressive. What was your regimen? I am looking into ways on how my next liver flush can be more sucessfull. Ive done apple juice fasting for two days prior to the flush, chinese bitters for a few weeks...etc...5 flushes so far but none have yielded a good amount. How do you do it? What do you recommend? [End]
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- major flush
by manoftruth
10 year
1,477
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My Second Flush was fantastic!! Over 500 stones. All bright green...from sand size to marble size. Amazing! But, this time, I did a whole cup of olive oil all at once instead of only two teaspons every 15 minutes for two hours. Major diff! [End]
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- What I did...
by valerie
10 year
1,344
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Well what I did was this: I took 3/4 cup of organic apple juice with one tablespoon of epsom salts at 6:00 PM and then again at 8:00 PM. I am already going to the bathroom many times by now. Then at 10:00 PM, I drink a mixture of 3/4 cup extra virgin olive oil (instead of the recommended 1/2 cup) and 3/4 cup fresh squeezed grapefruit juice. Put that in a bottle and shake it alot to get it mixed really well. I drink it all down as fast as I can. Then I immediately lie down and try to sleep. If I can’t fall asleep, I atleast lay there for 45 min. If I can not sleep I usually go downs ...
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- To Valerie
by bevpirt
10 year
1,377
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Thanks for the great info. I am getting ready to do #9 this weekend. Number of stones has been decreasing, and last flush did not produce any. Will try some of your methods. ... ... B [End]
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- for Valerie
by alex
10 year
1,311
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Damn, i new i should have tried it with apple juice, it makes more sense as it loosens up the stones. ... ... ... Val nice to hear that you have been having great success, my question is did you use orgainc apple juice which is stocked on shelves of grocery stores, or did you use freshly squeezed apple juice made at home? ... ... your kind advice ... ... thanx [End]
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- Re: for Valerie
by valerie
10 year
1,329
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I use organic apple juice from the health food stores. Most regular stores don’t have ”organic” and you must have organic. Filtered isn’t the same as organic. I have never juiced my own apples :) The organic has the stuff on the bottom that you need to shake up before you drink, I think it tastes very very good personally. Good luck! ... ... ... Val [End]
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- Re: for Valerie
by alex
10 year
1,295
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Val, ... ... in my area, they sell organic apple juice but does not have the stuff, like you said it is filtered but organic, but i can find the ones you are talkin bout, hows the one i just mentioned rank on your ratings. ... ... cheers [End]
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- Apple juicing tips
by Fil
10 year
1,554
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As far as I know, all commercially sold apple juice is pasteurised and most is filtered. If you have a juicer and the time, it’s cheaper and better to juice your own. ... ... I find that ten medium sized apples makes 1 litre. So I usually buy a box of apples at the wholesale market when I’m going to flush. ... ... Easy chopping: slice off one side, then the other side of the apple, leaving a thin slice in the middle that contains the core. Then cut each side of this so that only the core remains. Hard to explain in words but if you can follow this, it’s much easier than the usual way of removing ...
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- Re: Apple juicing tips
by valerie
10 year
1,293
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Thank you for the advice... I am definitely looking into getting a juicer and I’ll refer to your tips as soon as I do :) ... ... Val [End]
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- Re: for Alex
by valerie
10 year
1,242
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Sounds good! I think as long as it’s organic your A-OKAY! :) ... ... Bottoms up! ... ... Val [End]
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- Re: To all flushers!
by Gozel
10 year
1,352
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I have gotten out 400+ stones on flush #1, 500+ on flush #2, and 1000+ on flush #3 all using epsom salt and water. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. [End]
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- Is "frustrated_flusher" still on curezone?
by gracey
10 year
624
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HI, I just read an old post from frustrated_flusher. i have chronic hives too. Did you clean up your dental work? Even white fillings are bad. I have chronic hives, I am flushing like you, but with less oil. I wonder if you feel better yet? The carb cravings get worse when you are killing the candida in your body. It is a big adjustment for the body and a withdrawal effect from expelling the candida. [End]
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- And another question...
by msgus02
10 year
1,012
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I just read through the liver flush program and am wondering - is it necessary to do a parasite cleanse before the liver flush? I prefer not to, but also don’t want to get sick when doing the liver flush. Any thoughts? ... ... Thanks, ... ... kar :) [End]
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- Re: And another question...
by hopinso
10 year
1,007
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I’ve done lots of liver flushes without a parasite cleanse and always had good results and no serious problems. Last week I did my 17th flush and discovered a parasite embedded in a large, oblong stone. I have just ordered a parasite cleansing program that I will conplete before doing another flush. I think you could safely do a liver flush, but watch what comes out, you may be as surprised as I was. If you should feel very ill during or after your first flush, I think it would be a good idea to do a parasite cleanse before doing another one. [End]
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- Risk of infection
by onogirl
10 year
1,292
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Hi Everyone, ... Do you all think the risk of gallbladder infection is overstated? I ask because it seems that docs try and scare gallbladder patients with the ”if you don’t have surgery, you may wind up with an awful infection!” I know gallbladders can become infected, but from my reading it seems that the following applies: 1)Most gallbladder infection is treated completely with IV antibiotics if a patient is very ill, or if a patient doesn’t have a high WBC count, even outpatient oral antibiotics. 2)The people most likely to be hurt by these infections are usually ill, anyway: very eld ...
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- Re: Risk of infection
by flowerchild59
10 year
1,290
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I don’t know of real stats on this, but I think that true infections are few and far between, since docs recommend gb removal at the first twinge of problems. You might want to do a google search and find some answers. I chose to go ahead and do my gb removal last year and it was a good thing. My gallbladder was probably going to be gangrenous fairly soon. I had a chronic elevated temp at the time, nausea, pain, diarrhea, etc ----all the symptoms of gb disease. It turns out my gb was beyond saving, it was full of adhesions and scar tissue from years of chronic infection and was totall ...
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- 1st Flush...
by msgus02
10 year
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Hi, all! ... ... I have recently finished a 10-day Master Cleanse (a couple weeks ago) and would like to do my first liver flush possibly over the upcoming weekend. Can any of the forum flush veterans give me some advice? Which is the best flush? How long of a process should I expect? ... ... Thank you in advance! ... ... -kar:) [End]
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- Third Flush Results, with one weird episode...
by Anja
10 year
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It’s 12:30 PM the day after my 3rd flush. I did the usual Hulda protocol, but I pushed everything ahead a couple of hours since I’m a night person and can’t get to sleep much before 1:00 A.M. On flush #2 I got very nasueous, but this time had very little nausea through most of the night, although I didn’t sleep much. Then at 6:30 A.M. or so I started getting some pains that felt like stomach/small intestine, and also felt nausous and ”strange.” I went to the bathroom, not sure which end it was going to come out of. You all know that feeling I’m talking about... Anyway, I flipped on th ...
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- Re: Third Flush Results, with one weird episode...
by hopinso
10 year
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It sounds like you had a really great flush. ... Yes, I have had those episodes where I felt like I was going to black out,and have been very weak, sweaty and nauseous. It usually happened before passing a lot of stones and sludge. I think its from the toxins in the system. [End]
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- Re: Third Flush Results, with one weird episode...
by Anja
10 year
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Thanks for the reply - it makes me feel better than I’m not the only one. I did try out a friend’s zapper the day before, and this is the most bright green stuff I’ve seen in the bowl all at once. Maybe just that six minutes with ”Dual Zapper” had something to do with it, who knows. It did happen right before a big ”cleanout.” [End]
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- Re: Third Flush Results, with one weird episode...
by magicogar
10 year
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YOu may have an anxiety attack. It happened to me once when I thought I had a heart attack but ended up having a hiatal hernia instead which compressed my heart. My jaw, and right side of my abdomen area became numb. I got nervous and started blacking out. [End]
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- 1st flush...
by msgus02
10 year
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Hi, all! ... ... I’m contemplating whether or not to do a liver flush this weekend and wanted to know from the veterans in here the pros/cons of the flush. I did a Master Cleanse a couple of weeks ago for 10 days and am wondering if my body is in the right condition to do a flush. Are there any solid guidelines/recommendations that I should follow? ... ... Thanks! ... ... kar:) [End]
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- Re: 1st flush...
by hopinso
10 year
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I think everyone who has done a Master Cleanse should follow up with a liver cleanse. I did a liver cleanse right after my last MC with two days of apple juice fasting in between. It was a great flush and I had np problems. [End]
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- Re: 1st flush...
by joanne
10 year
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Hi kar ... ... I agree with hopinso. Since my MC in August I’ve done 3 liver flushes - I think they’re the perfect accompaniment to the mc and go a long way towards taking back control of your own health. Go for it! [End]
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- "Veterans" :)...
by msgus02
10 year
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Which flush do you recommend? I’ve checked out the liver flush information and it seems that there are more varieties than I thought! I’m looking for the easiest, yet most effective, route. ... ... Thanks again! ... ... -kar:) [End]
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- Re: "Veterans" :)...
by joanne
10 year
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I think that the Hulda Clark one is definitely the easiest to start out with! It has the least amt of ingredients, and the instructions are pretty clear and easy, and it also seemed to take up the least amount of time. I found it a good starting point, and then with each successive flush you pick up bits and pieces of other people’s conversations and use other people’s pointers and learn from your own successes and failures, and you end up customizing your own special flush. I really love doing them, and am always looking for a good time to squeeze one in ;) [End]
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- Re: "Veterans" :)...
by hopinso
10 year
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I agree that the Hulda Clark is the easiest and is usually very effective. Through trail and error I have found I do better on lemon juice than grapefruit, and (maybe because I’m heavy) I need 3/4 olive oil to get a good flush. I also sssssleep on my right side instead of my back. The first time follow the instructions, ththen you can create your custom flush. I am also a big believer in drinking apple juice 2 or 3 days before the flush. [End]
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- Hopsino - lemon vs. grapefruit
by Anja
10 year
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you mentioned you do better on lemon juice - in what way would you say? (i.e more stones, less nausea, etc.) I did GF again this time, but topped it off with the juice of about one lemon, and I had less nausea most of the night, up until my explosive situation this morning, anyway. I was wondering if that had anything to do with the lemon getting the olive oil through the stomach faster. Still, I was burping it until about 3:00 this afternoon. [End]
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- Just a warning.....
by JeffM
10 year
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An elderly friend of mine just had to undergo emergency gallbladder removal for a lodged gallstone. ... ... She was successfully flushing the smaller stones, but didn’t know she had two large gallstones. One got lodged as it was being pushed out in one of her flushes. She ended up going into the emergency room. ... ... The doctor told her that flushing is okay, but it’s best to get an ultrasound done first to make sure you don’t have large stones that might get stuck. ... ... Be careful.... [End]
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- Re: Just a warning.....
by Anja
10 year
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I do think you have to be more careful with the elderly, particularly if they have not done much previously in the way of cleansing or are taking a lot of medications. That’s why I’m not recommending this for my dad, with his many health issues and long list of pharmaceuticals. ... ... The stuck stone thing scared me before I started flushing, but just this morning after my third flush, I passed a stone the size of a grape - bigger than the size of a bile duct, from what I’ve read. I went to the hospital about six years ago with what I know was a gallbladder attack of some sort, but they nev ...
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- Re: Just a warning.....
by just-me
10 year
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Thanks Jeff! That exactly what I did before my first flush! How I begged and lied to the doctor in order to get it done is different story :)) ... [End]
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- Flush while breastfeeding
by Mp
10 year
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I’m the mum of a 6 month old little girl that I’m breast feeding. Is it safe to do a flush? For her: isn’t there a risk that she gets some of the bad stuff coming out of my liver? For me: isn’t it a bit tough on my body (even though I’m feeling fine)? Thanks for any advice you can give. [End]
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- Re: Flush while breastfeeding
by flowerchild59
10 year
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I see no reason why you should not flush while breast feeding. Are you flushing as a prevention or are you symptomatic with pain and indigestion associated with gb problems? The products you use for flushing are safe and easily done. I would be sure you take all doses of the epsom salts to be sure you are ridding your body of any toxins released while you flush. Drink lots of water as always. I used to grab a glass of something to drink every time I sat down to breast feed and I was able to keep up my fluid intake easily. ... [End]
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- Re: Flush while breastfeeding
by Spirit
10 year
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Is the health risk you and your child are facing higher if you do a flush, or if you don’t? ... ... I would say, you are risking more if you don’t flush, even if you have no symptoms whatsoever. ... ... Now you know how safe ut is. ... ... I would say that chances for anything bad (colics or diarrhea ) happening to your child while or after the flush are very very poor. Eat some processed foods and chances of baby getting colics or diarrhea are far bigger. ... ... It is perfectly safe for your child, and it is safe for you. ... ... ... If you want to know more, you should read Pregnancy & Breastfeeding Forum: ... P ...
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- Still Having gallstone attacks after cleansing!
by -Alex
10 year
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After at least four very successful Liver/Gallbladder Cleanses, I am still having occasional gallstone attacks. I have been taking special care with my eating habits, but I can’t eliminate protein or fats from my diet as they are a necessity (I get dizzy without them). I have been careful with what I choose to eat especially after a cleanse. ... Eventually after repeated correctly timed cleanses I should be able to rid myself of stones, right? Hence, no more gallstone attacks. I’m assuming my gallbladder will heal after being free of the stones. ... ... If I’m wrong please let me know. I eat i ...
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- Re: Still Having gallstone attacks after cleansing!
by BethDogg
10 year
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... Hopefully flowerchild will respond to your post, but I’ll just add the little I know. It is supposed to be imperative that you eat the right kinds of fats i.e. olive oil, flax oil, coconut oil, avocados...This helps the bile run smoother. Eating non-fat is a temporary measure to keep the attacks from getting worse, but it is not the way you should eat all the time. A lack of the right fats can make the problem worse in the long run. ... ... I know I’m sounding like a broken record, but I have had a great deal of suces taking Julia Chang’s Gold Coin Grass to help break up and soften the sto ...
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- Re: Still Having gallstone attacks after cleansing!
by flowerchild59
10 year
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I found that each time I had a gb attack or whatever you call it, I had stones that needed to come out asap. I didn’t feel much relief from the flushes and couldn’t wait to do another one. I just knew that I needed to do another one and those were the flushes that produced the largest stones, like bigger than a quarter. Do what your body tells you. [End]
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- 5th flush....wheres the stones? :(
by littlewings
10 year
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did my 5th flush this weekend. saw some small little green things here and there, and just a few small tan stones....man where are they? did a coffee colema today which helped get rid of some more stuff stuff but nothing major. is my liver really that congested? for my 4th flush i used chinese bitters for a few weeks, which helped me get rid of a lot of chaff and tiny pebble like things, but i still have yet to have a productive flush. should i start taking gold coin grass? im definitely gonna keep going, i just hope i get things moving soon [End]
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- p.s. red floaty things?
by littlewings
10 year
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i have also passed a few red floaty things...are these polyps? ive heard about these but am not quite sure what they are...anyone with info on these? thanks [End]
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- Re: 5th flush....wheres the stones? :(
by hanna
10 year
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... ... ... I can’t help you with what you are passing, but I would suggest to read Julia Chang’s site (sensiblehealth). ... ... When you change to Gold Coin Grass you stop the Chinese Bitters. ... ... Then you can add Coptis for increase bile flow. ... ... Good Luck, ... Johanna [End]
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- Gallstone attack = tired feeling?
by Old Pilot2
10 year
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Can anyone relate to this? I may have missed it on the board, if so, I’m sorry to ask the ”same old question”. But most if not every time I have had an attack in the past I get very, VERY tired and sleepy. Do any of you experience this feeling? Thanks. ... ... Also I want to mention that I’m still doing very well taking the tbs of OO and fruitjuice before eating breakfast each morning. I have no idea what it does to stop attacks, but it seems to work. I should add, it works along with the gall bladder flush. ... ... ...OldPilot ... [End]
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- Re: Gallstone attack = tired feeling?
by BethDogg
10 year
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Yes, Old Pilot, they are exactly like that for me too. They just wipe me out. It takes about a week or more to recover completely. I think partly my liver freaks out and doesn’t do such a good job cleaning my blood and that’s partly why I get so tired. But, yes, it’s hard to get out of bed for a week. ... ... Glad to hear the OO in the am is helping you. I’m doing much better with the Gold Coin Grass and rebounding. Glad we’re all able to find some relief. I had my first attack two months ago, and they are the nastiest thing I’ve run across in a while. ... ... bd [End]
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- Re: Gallstone attack = tired feeling?
by Old Pilot2
10 year
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Beth, ... Thanks for answering. I’ll have to look into that Gold Coin Grass, sounds like it would be good to be knowledgeable about it. ... You may be right about the liver causing the tired feeling, I don’t know what causes it for sure, but I just feel like going to sleep most of the times that I’ve had an attack. A couple of times I did, and I woke up with all the pain gone. What a relief!! I wonder if others get that tired, sleepy feeling during an attack? ... ...OldPilot [End]
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- Re: Gallstone attack = tired feeling?.to Old Pilot
by Blueduck
10 year
3,967
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Sounds right to me about being very tired after an attack. I also have noticed that I am tired when I need to flush, however not as tired as I was after an attack. ... ... Old Pilot, are you still having attacks ? ... ... Good to see you on the forum. ... ... ... Blueduck ... ... ... ... [End]
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- Re: Gallstone attack = tired feeling?Blueduck
by Old Pilot2
10 year
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Hi Blueduck, ... Thanks for answering, it’s good to be sharing and asking questions again. No, I haven’t had a real attack (had one small one) since I started taking the tbs of OO each morning. ... ... About the ultrasound, I have a feeling you’re right, I probably don’t have any gall stones that they can see. I’ll probably be doing one flush later this month. ... Take care, ... ...OldPilot [End]
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- 2nd flush done
by alex
10 year
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Well i just finished my second cleanse saturday morning, yesterday i had at least 7 or 8 runny bowl movements, so far only 55 stones counted, first flush took out 160 stones, this time i am noticing more runny bowls than last time, but lesser stones. ... ... But my post symtoms of rashes which i experienced in first flush have not come up yet, so i think this is a good sign, my facial skin also feels more lubricated and brighter! ... ... peace [End]
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- 3rd flush results
by barbqb
10 year
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Just did flush #3 last night and so far 113 stones. For my previous 2 flushes all stones were beige, now most are green with shiny emerald insides, all the consistency of wax. Biggest stones are two at 5/8 by 3/8 inch, and many are 1/4 or 1/3 inch around. I am really encouraged to see so much stuff exiting my liver. My hubby is out of town so I bought a colander yesterday and am using it. It is incredible to hear the ”cah-lunk!” when a big one falls. ... ... The protocol I am using is Bob’s Quick Cleanse for day 1, with two more doses of ES on day 2 ala Hulda. Also I used 3/4 cup OO last night ...
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- flushing tonight - question on lunch!
by Anja
10 year
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I should have posted this sooner, but I was wondering if anybody eats canned tuna at lunch the day of a flush? I have trouble keeping my blood sugar up, and the label on the can says 0 grams of fat - it’s packed in spring water. I wasn’t sure how fish could have no fat at all, but I thought maybe the extra protein at lunch would keep my blood sugar a little more stable the rest of the day. ... ... My only concern after that would be whether the meat would sort of plug me up a little, which is the last thing I want tomorrow morning... [End]
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- Re: flushing tonight - question on lunch!
by hopinso
10 year
1,367
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Tuna for lunch should be fine. The Epsom salts should take care of any plugged up problems. Eat it as early as you can though to get it out of the stomach before the ES gets to it. [End]
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- Re: flushing tonight - question on lunch!
by Anja
10 year
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Thanks so much for the advice! I ended up having a big bowl of steamed veggies and salad, instead, but I will do the tuna next time. I have a huge headache and I’m currently debating about whether to go ahead with the flush tonight or wait until tomorrow. I can’t usually sleep lying down with a headache, and I’m not sure if it will still work if I’m sitting up. I really want to get it over with tonight. [End]
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- Re: flushing tonight - question on lunch!
by valerie
10 year
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How about just taking a few advils with just a sip of water? That way you’re head ache will go away and you can still do your flush? Or you know what works great for my headaches? Sounds really weird but if you grasp your hair as close to the root as possible and squeeze it, it really seems to help relieve the pressure of the headache, to me atleast. All I know is when I am ready to do a flush and I have to postpone it for some reason, that sucks!! Good luck with your flush and try to stick it out tonight! You’ll be glad tomorrow :) ... ... Val [End]
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- Re: Thanks, Val
by Anja
10 year
1,405
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THanks, Val, I did stick it out, and I hit one rough spot, but it was a very productive flush so far and I’m glad I went through with it. I’m going to report the results in a new posting farther up the page. BTW, that hair-pulling thing is a craniosacral teqhnique! It probably drains cranial fluid from your head or re-adjusts the cranial bones which relieves your headache. As for the Advil - anti-inflammatories are particularly hard on the liver, and I would think would be counter-productive for a flush. That said, I do, however, take a half dose of a pharmaceutical sleeping pill to t ...
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- No problem :)
by valerie
10 year
1,292
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Wow that was interesting about the hair pulling being a craniosacral thing... I didn’t know that and it makes alot of sense! Hope you’re flush went well!!!!!! Excited to hear about it :) ... ... Val [End]
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- Bentonite alone? Liver Flush with Flax Seed Oil...
by alleygator
10 year
2,023
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Hello Everyone, ... ... I’m just wondering if it’s okay to take bentonite alone, because I think the phyllium husks are not digesting properly. Will I still get rid of the mucqoid plaque? ... I’m also going to do another flush, but I threw up the OO GF mixture the last time. ... Is it okay to use Flax Seed Oil with maybe OJ instead? ... ... Thank You for all of your responses, I really appreciate your feed-back! ... ... alleygator ... ... ... ... [End]
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- Re: Bentonite alone? Liver Flush with Flax Seed Oil...
by hopinso
10 year
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I don’t know about the flax oil question. Some oils to not trigger the release of bile as strongly as others. ... Bentonite can be taken alone. It will absorb many times its weight in toxins, but does not have the sweeping action of psyllium. Perhaps you can reduce the amount of psyllium you take to still get some benefits of the fiber, but not have the digestive problems. Why don’t you experiment a bit before you give it up completely? [End]
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- To Alleygator-Re: Bentonite alone? Liver Flush with Flax Seed Oil...
by mwhitman
10 year
1,936
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I have read in several places that the psyllium husks are not as good as the seeds, and Bentonite is controversial ( see a post about it on Ask Andeas forum)I have been doing the following: In a coffee grinder, mix 1/4c flax seeds and 1/4c psyllium seeds. Grind to a powder. Keep Refrigerated. Everyday, I put 1 tb into 1/2c prune juice and wow!! this is great stuff. I don’t have as much mucus. Also, cutting dairy helps ... Flaxsed oil is excellent - high Omega 3. Last time I made an oil blend of sesame ( I love sesame oil) canola, and almond oils. I drank OJ instead and it worked just lik ...
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- Re: Bentonite alone? Liver Flush with Flax Seed Oil...
by kgold
10 year
1,871
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I don’t know much about bentonite yet, but I just finished my tenth liver flush and have never used olive oil at all.I love it on salads but I just don’t care for it as a beverage. So in the interests of getting it down and keeping it I go with cold-pressed almond every time. I know a lot of knowledgable flushers swear that there’s a difference, and maybe I’m just ”easy” but I sure have gotten a lot of garbage out of my body in the last year. Saturday morning I woke up to eight of the biggest stones I’ve ever seen, all bright green.Rather than throw up every time I would try another oil ju ...
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- Re: Bentonite alone? Liver Flush with Flax Seed Oil...
by alleygator
10 year
1,758
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Hello kgold, ... I have done 10 flushes already. I only threw up the last time. ... Every time I drink the mixture it gets harder to keep it down. ... This is why I would like to try something else. I just want to make sure I do pass stones. ... I will try some other oil, I like the flax seed oil, but I didn’t know if it would be heavy enough to soften everything up. ... Thank you for your thoughts, ... alleygator ... P.S. I will update with my results. I plan to flush next weekend. ... [End]
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- Re: Large quantity of flax oil potentially dangerous?
by Anja
10 year
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Ok, somewhere on this web site I know I read something about flax oil being potentially harmful in doses higher than a tablespoon a day, because it is so medicinal. It might have been a link to another article out there on the web, I can’t remember. It got into the politics of the flax oil industry and its advertising, as well as all the science of it. The author was recommending getting the benefits of flax just from FRESHLY ground seeds - i.e. right before you’re going to eat them. He said there was evidence of it’s benefits in cancer patients, but for other uses, one had to treat it ...
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- Re: What brand of almond oil??
by Anja
10 year
1,666
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I have only seen Hain brand almond oil (refined) in the stores - I was not sure if refined was OK. What brand do you use? [End]
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- New to Zapping - Please help
by bill33333
10 year
576
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Hi, ... ... Is there a page with FAQ about zapping or a getting started page that tells you what to expect when you start? ... ... ... I bought a Super Zapper De Luxe from Dr Clark. About 2 weeks ago I zapped for the first time and let the machine do it’s Dr Clark cycle which is 7 minutes, then 20 minutes rest, then 7 minutes, 20 , 7 again. ... ... The next day I had bad neck and back pains to where I couldn’t even turn my head. I used to get these pains in the same places 2 years back before I started the liver flush. ... ... A couple of days later I did the Dr Clark zap cycle again, then later in the day ...
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- Couldn't find gall bladder!!
by Old Pilot2
10 year
1,389
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I mentioned before that I had an utra sound done of my gall bladder. I thought they were supposed to give very detailed pictures, but the tech. actually asked me if I still had my gall bladder! They were able to see kidney stones, but they couldn’t even find the gall bladder. Does anyone know how that’s possible? ... My doctor called me and told me they needed to do an MRI instead. I’d sure like to hear from anyone with a similar experience. ... Thanks, ... ...OldPilot [End]
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- Re: Couldn't find gall bladder!!
by flowerchild59
10 year
1,310
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OldPilot, have you had a HIDA scan done? It will show the function of your gb by ”filling” when an radioactive fat is injected into your vein. The gb will fill or not, with this fat, and you will be given a functioning % of how your gb is working. That will tell you more than a US. Why do they want to do an MRI? [End]
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- Re: Couldn't find gall bladder-Flowerchild59
by Old Pilot2
10 year
2,464
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Thanks for responding Flowerchild. ... No, they haven’t done an HIDA scan, and I think they were talking about the MRI simply because it shows the organs in minute detail. ... I can’t imagine why they couldn’t see the gall bladder with an ultrasound. ... ...OldPilot [End]
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- Re: Couldn't find gall bladder-to Old Pilot
by Blueduck
10 year
1,358
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I would imagine that they could not see your gall bladder because there are no ”hard” stones in there. ... ... Just my opinion. ... ... I do not trust them any way and would not believe what they say. I am amazed that they did not tell you that you need to have your gall bladder butchered out. This is what they do tell most people. ... (Even if they dont find a thing wrong)........... they gotta make their vacation home payments yeah ? ... ... Take care, ... ... Blueduck [End]
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- Stone Free & Gold Coin Grass
by jolts
10 year
2,672
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I’m taking Stone Free by Planetary which seems to be helping with some of my pains. But I was thinking I could do even better with Gold Coin Grass. Does anybody know if both of these products serve the same purpose? ... ... Thank’s .....Pat [End]
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- Re: Stone Free & Gold Coin Grass
by shiny
10 year
2,592
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... I’m familiar with Gold Coin Grass.It’s very effective for crushing stones .I took it for 2 weeks and had a very very successful first flush. It contains Bupleurum and Gold Coin Grass.You could always ask Julia from sensiblehealth.com for more info. ... ... BTW where did you buy the ’stone free’ formula and is it a tincture or in tablet form? [End]
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- Re: Stone Free & Gold Coin Grass
by tigerfish
10 year
2,841
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gold coing grass cost me $27.00(us) here. it tastes like stale, strong alcohol, but i like it cause anything strong probably works: ... ... http://sensiblehealth.com/prime.html#GCG ... ... GOLD COIN GRASS (GCG) 250 ml or 8.5 oz - US$18.00 ... ... Ingredients: ... Gold Coin Grass, Bupleurum ... ... Organs Affected: ... Liver, Gallbladder, Kidneys, Urinary Bladder ... ... Dosage: ... 1 tablespoonful (about 15 ml) once daily on empty stomach 30 minutes before breakfast. ... ... User Experience & Properties: ... This product is effective in softening and crushing gallstones and is useful as a preparatory step in gallbl ...
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- Re: Stone Free & Gold Coin Grass
by jolts
10 year
2,735
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Thanks shiny & tigerfish. ... What I really needed to know was if GCG is better than Stone Free. Stone Free is working, less pressure & pain, just wondering if I could do even better with GCG. I think what I’ll do is finish up the bottle of Stone Free & order some GCG. ... ... BTW....I got Stone Free at my local health store & it’s in tablet form. ... ... Thanks......Pat [End]
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- MY FIRST LIVER FLUSH - nothing happened?!?
by tburton
10 year
2,162
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I have just completed my first liver flush, but no stones have appeared. I have been told after an ultrasound scan that I have gall stones in a ”collapsed gall bladder”. Must I keep on trying? ... ... I have also been told that I have a cyst on the liver, would this be helped by liver flushes? [End]
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- Re: MY FIRST LIVER FLUSH - nothing happened?!?
by BethDogg
10 year
2,185
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... ... Tell us what you did during your flush, how much epsom salts, juice, etc. and at what times. We can help you if maybe you did something wrong. If you have a collapsed gall bladder, it may be difficult to get stones out without some herbal help. Check out the link below. But tell us what you did first. Thanks. ... ... bd http://www.sensiblehealth.com ... [End]
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- Re: MY FIRST LIVER FLUSH - nothing happened?!?
by tburton
10 year
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I followed a protocol recommended by Penny Samuels devised by the Dulwich Health Society - if that means anything to you! (www.chem-tox.com/gallstones/download/index.htm) ... ... for six consecutive days: 2 litres of fresh, pure apply juice per day. ... ... on the 6th day: nothing after lunch except apple juice and camomile tea. ... ... at 9 pm 1-2 level tablespoons of Epsom Salts ... at 10 pm 2oz freshly squeezed lemon juice and 4oz cold compressed unrefined virgin olive oil, sipped slowly ... ... I went to bed immediately and slept on my right side. ... ... The next morning, I had three bowel movements, but no ston ...
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- Re: MY FIRST LIVER FLUSH - nothing happened?!?
by BethDogg
10 year
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... If you check out the web site I sent you, Julia talks about how some people have no stones their first flush because the stones are too impacted to come out. Though, if you did the apple juice thing for the week before, I would think that would have loosened things up in there. I also have chatted with several people who didn’t get anything their first flush, but got tons the second. ... ... Also, try and follow Hulda’s flush next time and do two more doses of epsom salts in the AM. That has really helped me pass the stones the next day. You could also try upping the dose of Olive oil ...
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- Re: MY FIRST LIVER FLUSH - nothing happened?!?
by hopinso
10 year
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I am hesitant to say too much because you seem to have a serious condition. However I assume you are seeking a way to avoid surgery, so I’ll offer some general advice. ... If gallstones were ”seen” on the ultrasound we can assume they have at least some calcification. I think apples and apple juice are a great and inexpensive way to soften stones. For the next two weeks, eat all the apples and drink all the apple juice you can stand. Have some everyday. The malic acid in apples softens the stones. ... For the next 10-12 days make sure you get plenty of healthy fats in your diet. Flax seed oil, w ...
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- Re: MY FIRST LIVER FLUSH - nothing happened?!?
by hopinso
10 year
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OK-I typed a wrong link above (although it is a good read too) the coffee enema recipe is at the bottom of this page. ... ... Also I wanted to make sure and clarify that the third and fouth Epsom salt drink are taken the morning after drinking the oil. I was trying to shorten the post and may have been unclear. http://www.curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=28&db=5&CO=818 ... [End]
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- Re: MY FIRST LIVER FLUSH - nothing happened?!?
by flowerchild59
10 year
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First of all, an ultrasound will really tell you nothing except if you have calcified stones. A HIDA scan will tell you if your gb fills normally and empties correctly. Chances are, if you are symptomatic with pain, indigestion and all of the classic gb symptoms, flushing is the way to go. I would continue to eat apples everyday over the next few weeks. The full moon is on the Oct 10th and in November it is on Sat the 8th. I have found over the past 7 flushes I have done that the ones I do with the full moon are much more successful. If you have a ”collapsed gallbladder” something, us ...
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- Re: MY FIRST LIVER FLUSH - nothing happened?!?
by tburton
10 year
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Hi Everyone, ... Do you all think the risk of gallbladder infection is overstated? I ask because it seems that docs try and scare gallbladder patients with the ”if you don’t have surgery, you may wind up with an awful infection!” I know gallbladders can become infected, but from my reading it seems that the following applies: 1)Most gallbladder infection is treated completely with IV antibiotics if a patient is very ill, or if a patient doesn’t have a high WBC count, even outpatient oral antibiotics. 2)The people most likely to be hurt by these infections are usually ill, anyway: very eld ...
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- flush question?
by alex
10 year
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Is it better to take the epsom salt with water alone, or is it ok to mix with fresh grapefruit or apple juice. ... ... ... i mean people are mixing it with juices now a days to remove the horrible after taste and awfulness of the salt and water mixture, i would like to know which is better to get more stones out / flush my liver. ... ... thanx [End]
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- Re: flush question?
by hopinso
10 year
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You can take Epsom salt anyway you want. The important thing is to get the Magnesium Sulphate in your system to clean the bowels and relax the biliary ducts. Last night I mixed the Epsom salt with apple juice, drank it, then sucked on a wedge of lemon. It really wasn’t too awful. [End]
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- Re: flush question?
by flowerchild59
10 year
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I find if I suck the epsom salts up with a straw it gets the crystals off the bottom of the glass and it is much easier to get them down that way. I usually have a swig of juice to clear my mouth afterwards. [End]
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- Flush #17-Success and A Surprise
by hopinso
10 year
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I did my 17th liver flush last night. I used my usual propocol of drinking plenty of apple juice and eating lots of fresh apples during the week, and fasting on juice before the flush. I took two Epsom salt drinks four and two hours before drinking 3/4 cup of extra virgin olive oil and 3/4 cup fresh squeezed lemon juice. I applied a castor oil pack over the liver/gallbladder area and put a heating pad on the pack. I slept well all night and woke up 81/2 hours after drinking the oil/juice. ... My first BM passed only a few pea sized stones. I took two teaspoons Epsom salt in a cup of apple ju ...
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- Re: Flush #17-Success and A Surprise
by wellnessyoga
10 year
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Congratulations for a very successful 17th ! Your story highlights again what’s still ahead of me (seven flushes so far). ... Afer flush #3 I passed a whole bunch of yeacky liver flukes. I had done Hulda Clark’s paraside cleanse before starting flushing, and wonder if Hulda Clark’s recipe did them in. I also gave the same parasite cleanse to my mother, who was able to rid herself of a number of intestinal parasites ( proven by tests). ... If you have not done a paraside cleanse recently, this might be a good one to do... ... Lots of health! [End]
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- Re: Flush #17-Success and A Surprise
by Fil
10 year
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Hopinso, as far as I’ve read the bright green/emerald stones are fresher. Maybe your body is still making stones? [End]
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- Re: Flush #17-Success and A Surprise
by hopinso
10 year
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I’ve wondered about this. I recently brought back meat into my diet after over six months of vegetarian eating. I’ve stopped eating wheat and most other grains, and limit dairy, although I do drink kefir 5-7 times a week. I also completed a 10 Day Master Cleanse in August and another one in September. ... On my first flush I got out several hundred of uniformly pea sized round stones with a smooth waxy surface. The colors ranged from dull green to almost black. Some had a gray/white coating. I was too squeamish at the time to examine them closely. I did not flush again for about three month ...
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- Re: Flush #17-Success and A Surprise
by Fil
10 year
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Sorry not to have read this earlier. Did we have the floater/sinker discussion? Do your stools float or sink? D. who was one of the founders of this site and has been following the liver flush posts all along may have some answers for you. Perhaps post ”To D.”? [End]
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- My results
by nspeth
10 year
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Well unfortunately I was unable to complete the flush since my monthly decided to show up at 6am this morning. I should have known since my temp dropped yesterday. (I am temping for fertility charting) I got the first two Epsoms down and the oil/grapefruit then went to bed. I was only able to use the bathroom once before bed which I thought was weird since last time I went MANY times. My tummy was rumbly though. I slept really good this time and didn’t wake up till about 4am to use the bathroom. No nausea or tossing and turning this time either. I was in the bathroom for a good 35 minutes. ...
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- Re: Update
by nspeth
10 year
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Well I did get a few green stones, about 7 or so. Bigger than last time. And a few more tiny tan stones. [End]
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- Re: Update
by hopinso
10 year
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If you got out stones, your flush was a success. If you could have a few hours at home you could try a salt water flush. That’s how I got out most of my stones today. Don’t give up on flushing. A clean liver will also help regulate all those womanly hormones. My periods are much easier since I started flushing. [End]
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- Re: Update
by nspeth
10 year
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Hi Hopinso, yes that’s what I am hoping to achieve. I was on the pill for 7.5 years, had trouble with irregular periods and such. Plus the whole desire issue. The pill really messed me up. I know my liver needs a good cleaning. I won’t give up. I do need to flush out my bowels from the liver flush though since I haven’t really gone much today. Is the salt water flush the same as the Epsom salt? [End]
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- Re: Update
by hopinso
10 year
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The salt water flush is two teaspoons of seasalt (it must be sea salt) in one quart of lukewarm water. Drink the mixture all at once. It is supposed to have the same specific gravity as blood and the salt water is not absorbed, but flushes the whole digestive system. Its the flush technique recommended by the Master Cleansers. [End]
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- Re: Hopinso
by nspeth
10 year
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Does it matter which sea salt? The reason I wonder is because I do have sea salt but I don’t think it’s the real deal. It doesn’t say unrefined and it looks like normal salt. I bought it at the regular grocery store. I want to order some Celtic sea salt but just haven’t yet. I just had a BM and there were some really big floating tan things but I don’t know if they were stones or not. I broke a few open, they were kind of dry and crumbly inside. I’m not sure. There were a few tiny specks of green floating too. So if I take the sea salt flush do I need to do that on an empty stomach? Will i ...
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- Re: Hopinso
by hopinso
10 year
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Refined sea salt will work if it does not have added iodine. I can only find the refined sea salt in the rural area where I live. ... Sometimes chaff will come out in clumps or mixed with fecal material. If it has a waxy texture, it is probably from the gallbladder. ... The SWF acts like a powerful laxative. A lot of liquid is expelled that has gained the name ”Butt Pee” by many. It will clean you out, but is not exactly a pleasant experience. ... Epsom salt works by drawing water into the bowel; SWF works by flushing through the digestive system, basically it goes in one end and out the other swee ...
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- Re: Hopinso
by nspeth
10 year
878
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Thanks Hopinso! Yeah, I know about the ”butt-pee” Epsom salt does that to me. I will probably try the sea salt eventually. I already ate. Well thanks for your help. By the way, congrats on your little ”surprise” *wink* ... [End]
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- To Fil re: ER4YT
by bevpirt
10 year
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Thanks for the link. Second time I have read this - worth re-reading. Do you use the bovine cartilage that the author recommends, or the MSM? If so, where do you get them, what brand? I found some sites for bovine cartilage when I was making my own glyconutrients, but they were all fairly expensive, and I was not sure of the quality. Thanks. ... ... B [End]
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- Re: To Fil re: ER4YT
by Fil
10 year
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Hi Bevpirt, no I don’t as yet but I would like to. I’m in Australia so it makes it difficult. ... ... I believe Standard Process has some good products. Another one that was recommended to me was BioGest. ... ... Let me know how you go. [End]
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- Flush#10-question for the more experienced flusher
by AmyK
10 year
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I’m now in the morning of my #10 flush and this one was quite different from the rest. Please comment. ... ... History: This is #10 since I’ve started my first liver Flush back in March 2003. Each flush produced hundreds of stones, but #7 (May 2003) produced no stones, just brown watery stool. Each Flush since #4 has been progressively more difficult to keep the OO/GF concoction down. For the first time last night, I threw up some. Anyhow, I know when I need to flush, because I feel a buildup of pressure in the liver/gb, this time I put it off by a week due to hubby’s schedule and plus he ...
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- Re: Flush#10-question for the more experienced flusher
by hopinso
10 year
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Hi, I did my 17th flush last night. This morning I had to do a sea salt water flush to get things moving, and they are moving now. Try and get hubby to do the SWF, it should do the trick. The other option is a big warm water enema. [End]
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- Re: Flush#10-question for the more experienced flusher
by AmyK
10 year
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Thank you for your reply. Hubby ended up having 2 voluminous BM on his own with some stones (he didn’t count). ... ... I had many BM but only 3 chaff size stones. Have you had flushes that resulted in no stones? and how often do you flush now? ... ... Many thanks, ... ... Amy ... ... [End]
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- Re: Flush#10-question for the more experienced flusher
by hopinso
10 year
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I flush every two weeks on the advice of my naturopth doctor. I took huge amounts of Ibuprofen and other OTC and prescription pain killers that resulted in what the doc. called an unusaully blocked liver. I must confess a lifetime of a bad diet also helped contribute to the problem. I don’t remember ever doing a flush with no results, but there have been a couple where I only passed a few stones. ... My advice is to keep flushing until there are no stones (or only a very few) two flushes in a row. ... Fasting on apple juice for 2 or 3 days before a flush usually helps produce good results and ...
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- Got green stones; yo, rusfox
by profxtjb
10 year
884
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First liver cleanse, following Dr. Hulda’s procedure. ... ... Two bowel movements so far this AM. ... green flakes, look like spinach fragments -- but I have not eaten any spinach for about a week. I also noticed some seeds -- probably from tomatoes I ate yesterday. ... fished out three or four dark green stones about the size of big chili beans. Plus some yellowy-tan objects that are small like lentils and seem softer than the greenies. ... ... So I guess the cleanse is working. YAY! ... ... Also, I was doing fresh beet juice/apple juice mixture for the past three weeks as prep. ... ... The green flakes I s ...
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- thanks BOB for the good applecidar vinegar tips
by Wrenn
10 year
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thanks for your posts here about the avc. i myself had forgotten to use it and i used to regulary drink some in water everymorning. ... there is a old time mixture called switzel also that folks used to drink for energy etc esp at barnraising times/ when everyone woudl work all day hard in summer heat... that involved avc in it ... ... so aside formt he cleansing effects i know it is also good for energy.... ... i am re beginning taking some everymoring as of today !!! ... thanks so much to remind me of the benefits/ ... ... Ami B. [End]
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- Re: thanks BOB for the good applecidar vinegar tips
by tigerfish
10 year
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he reminded me too. i bought some acv today. i also bought some natural sweetener called xylitol, which gave me diarreah cause i took too much at once (it says that’s possible on the package). i took too much because it’s not as sweet as sugar. [End]
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- Enema Mishaps....
by valerie
10 year
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Ok am I the only one with arms too short to successfully do an enema??? I’m so serious, my arm is not long enough to reach behind there and get a good squeeze in! I do it in the ”on knees and elbows” position and just have a hard time. I can squeeze a bit in, but definitely not the whole bottle. And I noticed afterward, I had pretty decent stomach cramps while trying to expel the water. I never have stomach cramps with the epsoms... anyone have any comments suggestions? My darling hubby has volunteered to give me the enema, but I don’t think I could bare that... too embarrasing!! Is ...
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- Re: Enema Mishaps....
by Fil
10 year
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Val, have you tried lying on your back or side? You can even sit up as you insert the pipe bit into your rectum, then lie down on your left side and let the water start to flow. Partway through, turn onto your back. Massage your belly. Turn on your right side. Once the water’s in, you can do things like cycle with your legs to help hold it in a bit longer. Deep breathing helps too. ... ... Good luck with it. [End]
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- Re: Enema Mishaps....
by gingersnap
10 year
1,084
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Hi, ... ... When I do an enema, I rarely do just one. I do one after another after another until I get nothing but clear colorless water out. ... ... To get the tube in, I lay on my back and pull my knees and head up towards each other. After its in, I lay my head down and try to relax and breath deep (helps for me). ... ... I know I should do abdominal massage but it makes me feel nausaus (sp?) - maybe I do it too hard? ... ... If I put a lot of water in, it takes several minutes for it all to come out (but not all at once). And I experience a bit of cramping too until its all out. After that I feel good ...
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- Re: Enema Mishaps....
by tigerfish
10 year
892
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could the cramping be because the water is not the right temperature? [End]
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- 5th flush tonight...anyone else up for it??
by littlewings
10 year
858
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doing my 5th flush tonight. been drinking only apple juice yesterday and today, really want to get those suckers out of me. who else is up for it? [End]
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- Re: I am!
by nspeth
10 year
920
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Hi littlewings! I am doing my 2nd flush tonight. So far I’ve had just fruit and fresh made apple juice for breakfast. I plan to have veggie juice and some veggies for lunch. Then nothing. Gotta work till 6 so I will take my first dose at 6:30. I am on central time. How bout you? [End]
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- Re: I am!
by hopinso
10 year
806
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I’m doing my 17th flush tonight. I’m also doing the apple juice fast today. I am in Central time too (somewhere in the Ozark Mountains), I’ll take my Epsom salt at 6:30 knowing I won’t be the only one making faces at the drink. [End]
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- Mee too!
by Skylah
10 year
843
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Hi there, ... ... I’m doing a flush tonight as well, I think it’s my 7th in two years. (I really should be doing it more often...) ... Anyway, I already drank my 2 epsom salt drinks, I only have the olive+grapefruit left. ... Good luck everybody, tommorow I’ll let you know how it went! ... Skylah :-) [End]
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- Re: Mee too!
by littlewings
10 year
826
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hey guys. yeah im on central time too, just about to leave to go back to work. taking the epsoms at 6 too. i wish you all well! [End]
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- Re: Mee too!
by rainbow
10 year
872
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Good luck littlewings and all who flush... ... I wish I can do it with you all but I am leaving for a little vac. but I can tell I need one.. [End]
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- Re: Mee too!
by rainbow
10 year
805
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Good luck littlewings and all who flush... ... I wish I can do it with you all but I am leaving for a little vac. but I can tell I need one.. [End]
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- Re: Mee too!
by kgold
10 year
782
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I’ve never posted before,but I flush about once a month.Tonight is number ten.I got nothing last flush, so I could be clean but I bet not.Good luck to all flushers, especially first-timers! [End]
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- Re: Mee too!
by hopinso
10 year
759
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Welcome to the forum. The support and advice here is priceless. Be sure and let us know your results. [End]
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- No Turning Back
by hopinso
10 year
774
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OK-I’ve just drunk my first dose of Epsom salts. The flush is on. Good luck to the rest of you Friday night flushers. [End]
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- My fifth tonight also! Good luck to us! - NM
by ann
10 year
782
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My fifth tonight also! Good luck to us! - NM [End]
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- Good Luck to you ALL!!!!!
by valerie
10 year
889
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Hey guys I hope your flushes go very well tonight!! You’ll be in my prayers... Let us know how it goes!! ... ... Val [End]
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- Re: I'm doing mine on Sunday.
by Anja
10 year
801
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Or maybe Monday. B’friend bummed out at me because I changed our plans so I could do the flush. Well, he will be glad in the long run - I’m a lot less crabby around my period & stuff after a flush! [End]
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- Re: 5th flush tonight...anyone else up for it??
by nspeth
10 year
795
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Wow, so many people! Cool. I took the first dose of Epsom about 6:40 so I’m due for my second in about 45 minutes. I feel a little rumbling going on but no bathroom trip yet. I really struggled today with hunger! I was craving fat so bad. I kept going back and forth with myself and all I could think about was a big juicy cheeseburger! AAAHHH! Hee, hee. I’m better now but still aching to eat. Well good luck everyone. :-) [End]
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- Re: 5th flush tonight...anyone else up for it??
by littlewings
10 year
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yes, its good to see so many flushers! party time. i took my first epsom salts late too, around 7 pm, so im gonna take them here around 8:30...hopefully it wont change anything....and am hoping to get some big ones out. i hope you all have a successful cleanse! [End]
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- Re: cheesebugers...
by Anja
10 year
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Speaking of burgers, interesting dietary choice for me pre-flush, but last night and tonight I ate a Wendy’s hamburger for dinner (minus most of the bun). I’ve been feeling really wiped out on the body ecology diet, and I was totally craving animal fat and protein. You would think I’d feel sick on that. It actually made me feel beter. Nourished, for a change. Not the best choice of red meat, I’ll admit, but in a pinch... Question is, I wonder if it will mess up my flush? Today is Friday and that’s not till Sunday night. I’m still doing the malic acid and Phosfood. Anybody do anythin ...
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- Wanted to flush this weekend too!
by Marg
10 year
864
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Hi everyone, ... Well our long holiday is over, and we are trying to get our diet back to normal (good healthy eating.) Holiday time was full of overindulgences of yummy food and wine. ... Anyway, we were going to flush this weekend (Saturday here) but I have a head cold now, and thought I should wait until I feel 100% percent again. ... So number 14 flush, and my partners 8th, will have to wait maybe a week or even two. ... Good luck to all the weekend flushers. ... I did miss curezone while away, and it is great to catch up with some posts. ... By the way, where is Tracey? I have not seen any of he ...
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- Re: cheesebugers...
by Fil
10 year
1,029
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Hi Anja, I think as long as you don’t eat any fat on the day of the flush - that’s the most important thing. ... ... Good luck! ... ... [End]
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- Flush results
by Skylah
10 year
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Hi all, ... After the olive mixture I fell asleep very fast but then I woke up at 1 am with nausea and I threw up. It happened to me before but I was determined. After that I was very relieved and in the morning I just didn’t have the strenght to drink the other 2 epsom salt drinks so I gave myself a coffe enema instead which cleared out the stones. So it was effective. And by the way, I feel really great now, I’m doing a two day fast. I’m fastong today and tommorow and doing bowel cleanse and parasites cleanse. Today I have herbal teas, anti parasite formula and P&b shakes and of course enem ...
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- Difference between Gallstone & Liver flush
by onteeroe
10 year
728
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Is there a difference between a gallstone flush and a liver flush? And if there is, should one be done before the other. ... Thanks so much, ... Romy [End]
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- Re: Difference between Gallstone & Liver flush
by BethDogg
10 year
766
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Is there a difference between a gallstone flush and a liver flush? And if there is, should one be done before the other. ... Thanks so much, ... Romy [End]
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- Hi onteeroe!
by Southern Belle
10 year
738
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You may not know this, but your liver and gallbladder are connected. Everything filters through your liver first and then is passed on to your gallbladder. ... ... It makes it kinda silly, when you think about it, that a Dr. wants to remove your gallbladder when your liver will still be making those yucky stones! ... ... Good luck and good health! ... Paulette G. [End]
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- advice please!!!
by rainbow
10 year
843
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Well this past weekend I did my 5th flush, I am feeling not myself..My bowel movements aren’t right , and I have a little pain in my gall bladder area..well I shouldn’t say pain I just know it is there. At times I feel like I have a low grade fever. ... I have a feeling i am feeling this way because I did not get the diahria I usually get during the flushes. Usually I get diahria before the second night time dose of epsom salt. This time I didn’t go until after the second morning dose.. Do you think I should try taking epsom salt now to induce diahria so I can flush everything in there.. ... I ...
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- Re: advice please!!!
by bethdogg
10 year
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... Maybe you’re just getting used to the epsom salts. I noticed this time that my butt didn’t burn the way it usually does after the epsom mixture. I’d suggest taking the epsom salts just because they’ve helped clear up pain in my gallbladder after a flush. And you’re probably right, because you didn’t have the major runs, your body didn’t expel the toxins associated with the flush fast enough for them to not be reabsorbed. But if you take them, make sure to get tons of water, they are very dehydrating. Hope you feel better soon. ... ... bd [End]
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- Re: advice please!!!
by Rusfox
10 year
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For the start I would do some enemas. If that does not help, flush again. ... ... I stopped having diarrhea after Epsoms around my 4-5th flush. I do have more bowel movements afer taking Epsoms, but is far not the same as when I first time used Epsoms. I guess body just gets used to it after a while and does not react so much anymore. ... ... After my flushes, when I feel that I still have some stones in my intestines, I do a couple of enemas. ... ... Good luck! [End]
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- Apple cider vinegar?
by onogirl
10 year
1,154
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First of all, thanks everyone for your great replies to my ”trying again to save my gallbladder” post---I appreciate all the info. I was wondering if anyone had tried drinking a couple of tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in water? I had read that this was good for many ailments, and am considering it between flushes. Any experiences? [End]
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- Re: Apple cider vinegar?
by _BOB
10 year
1,144
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I do that everyday before dinner. ... ... Has helped nicely with digestion. ... ... B www.bobmantz.com ... [End]
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- ? for Bob
by bethdogg
10 year
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Hey Bob - ... ... Because you know these things, does apple cider vinegar help disolve bile and stones? I’d read that in somewhere down in the gallbladder FAQ that they did, and that asprin did as well. Do you have any input about this? Thanks so much for coming in here and posting. It’s good to have someone as experienced as you helping us along. Thanks ... ... Beth [End]
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- Re: ? for Bob
by _BOB
10 year
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Thx for the kind words. ... ... Yes, it does. ... ... Intestinal blockage caused by stones (Enterolithiasis) is the number one killer of horses. ... ... Some racehorses are valued at SEVERAL MILLION dollars per. ... ... The trainers of these horses use ACV in their feed to prevent death. ... ... If its used on Million dollar horses - its good for me! ... ... There are some nice articles on it: ... ... http://www.healers-network.com/Remedies/acvforhorses.html ... ... http://www.trot-md.org/nl/news140.html ... ... http://www.cagenbird.com/vinegar.htm ... ... ... ... www.bobmantz.com ...
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- Re: ? for Bob
by rainbow
10 year
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That’s very interesting Bob especially about the horses. I have a horse maybe I should try putting it in her grain? Do you know anything about blood typing..? The health food lady said If you have blood type A not to use it..I just bought a bottle, so How much do you use and when and how often [End]
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- Re: ? for Bob
by _BOB
10 year
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I’d like to know the definitive answer to your question Dr Hulda Clarke has quite a bit to say about floating stools in this article. ... ... http://www.drhuldaclark.org/ailments_BadDigestion.asp www.bobmantz.com ... [End]
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- Re: Apple cider vinegar?
by onogirl
10 year
1,164
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Thanks so much for all your advice, Bob, it is very kind of you to take so much time to help people. I am going to use the Bragg ACV (it’s the only ”natural” kind I could find in my local store) in room temperature spring water, does that sound ok? [End]
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- Re: Apple cider vinegar?
by _BOB
10 year
1,126
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I take a tablespoon in just enough water to get one little swallow. I also throw in 15 or so drops of Dr. C’s cayenne. ... ... B www.bobmantz.com ... [End]
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- Re: Blood Type????
by rainbow
10 year
1,037
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I just purchased the apple cidar vinegar, so I mix it with water right? The health food lady asked me my blood type, I shamefully didn’t know..she said if I am blood type A I shouldn’t take it..does anyone know about blood type.. [End]
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- Re: Blood Type????
by Fiddler
10 year
1,048
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I know for blood type A apple cider is neutral. ... I don’t know about apple cider vineger. ... ... But look at http://www.curezone.com/ER4YT/ [End]
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- Re: Blood Type????
by metagen
10 year
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Indeed apple cider is not part of the type diet- ... however small amounts for a short period will do no harm. [End]
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- Re: Blood Type????
by Anja
10 year
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In my opinion, it’s another theory that may or may not be disproven someday. I think it’s originator has already come out with new modifications in a second edition book. I read someone else’s post here not too long ago about how the blood type diet wouldn’t be necessary if we all had healthy guts. I say listen to your body. I’m a type A and I KNOW a purely vegetarian diet isn’t right for me. I need a modest amount of animal protein to feel well. Legumes don’t agree with me at all, and forget about soy. So far apple cider vinegar seems great for my digestion. [End]
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- Re: Blood Type????
by Fil
10 year
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I agree, it’s a load of bunk. Read this article. ER4YT HYPE ... [End]
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- Meaning of Stone Colors
by nanekitoo
10 year
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I’ve been reading the FAQ and I want to check if I have this correct. Tan stones are from the gallbladder and green stones are from the liver. This means if I am getting mostly tan stones and only a couple of green ones each time that I am still working on cleaning out the gallbladder. When I start to get more green ones then I will have cleaned out the gallbladder and moved on to the liver. Does this sound right? [End]
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by Canada woman
10 year
3,671
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My first liver flush - tan/gold stones....and I have no gallbladder. What does that mean? Second flush the stones were pea-green to light green. Interesting. [End]
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by Rusfox
10 year
3,761
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As far as I understood through a lot of reading here and my own 2 years clensing experience: ... ... Tan stones - are oldest and most toxic stones. I got them all out during my first four flushes. ... I have done 13 flushes so far and never saw them again. ... ... Green stones - are fresh stones, some months old. ... All I get now (flushing every 2-3 months)is emerald colour stones only. ... ... I don’t really know about the difference in liver and gall bladder stones. But it is good to flush them out, wherever they come from. ... ... [End]
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by nanekitoo
10 year
3,669
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What you’re saying makes sense to me. I guess gallstones would also be the oldest stones and hence tan. I can’t wait to start seeing some greenies. :-) [End]
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by nspeth
10 year
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Does anyone think we will ever be clean of stones? Is that even possible? Why does our body produce them? I am wondering what the best eating lifestyle would be. I am thinking mostly raw foods such as veggies, fruits, nuts & seeds, whole grains, sprouts...things like that. But also organic free range omega rich eggs and chicken and fish. Plus a good variety of fresh herbs and herbal teas. What are your opinions? [End]
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by shiny
10 year
3,726
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... ... ... During my first flush I flushed out loads of white stones(1-2 cms long) and 1 black stone.I find it amazing that I have so many stones as I’m very petite. ... ... Julia Chang from sensiblehealth.com told me that stones are caused by diets high in animal protein. From my own research, stones are also due to high oestrogen levels,which is true in my case(I had polycystic ovaries for 20 years.) ... ... I’m going to do my second flush next week.I can’t wait to see what comes out this time!! [End]
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by nanekitoo
10 year
3,624
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I have PCOS too. Has flushing helped you with that? [End]
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by shiny
10 year
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... ... ... It’s a long story.Unbeknown to me, I had symptoms of PCOS from puberty until last year(age 33). Last year I had a scan and found out that I had PCOS. ... Within a year all my symptoms had disappeared.How? I started balancing my grains with protein to control my insulin surges. I also started to strengthan my liver using Bitters and Coptis (from sensiblehealth.com). More improvement. Then I did a flush .WOW!! Big improvement.Then I had 3 colonics.Amazing. ... ... The results? No acne, no ovarian cysts,I can predict my cycle to the day,hair is thick and shiny, no PMS at all,so energetic all ...
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by nanekitoo
10 year
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Wow, that’s very encouraging to me! I think the liver flushes have probably been the missing link for me all along. I made the dietary changes and stuck with them for around two years with no change in my PCOS symptoms. I’m really hoping that as I get my liver more healthy everything will start to balance out like it did for you. [End]
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- I disagree about the animal protein theory
by Fil
10 year
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I disagree with that theory. Gallstones are a fairly modern phenomena and increasing. Meat consumption is now decreasing but gallstones are increasing. Also all the traditional societies who consumed animal protein didn’t have gallstones. What about the Masai tribe in Africa who live on meat, milk and animal blood? ... ... The liver is our detox organ. Our body is constantly being bombarded with modern pollutants and toxic chemicals. I would place my bet more with modern processed foods, hydrogenated vegetable oils, toxic chemicals etc. ... ... I was on a low fat vegetarian diet from age 14 to ...
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by Fil
10 year
3,766
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Be careful with raw seeds/nuts. A lot of them contain phytonutrients that need to be predigested by soaking. They can actually leach your body of essential nutrients and minerals. Basic Nutrition ... [End]
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- Re: Meaning of Stone Colors
by koko
10 year
3,636
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... I read somewhere that you get the tan color when the ... cholesterol in the green stones is exposed to stomach acids. ... [End]
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- Flush for high triglyceride levels- help please?!
by wer108
10 year
1,437
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I hope someone can help me - does this flush really work with EXTREMELY elevated triglyceride levels? Although I am not overweight, eat fairly healthy and am only 38 my cholesterol was 300 and tri count was 4 times normal range - I go to the dr. today for a check up; I am extremely scared and upset- probably because I have an 18 month old who I want to see for many years. Any words for soothing me? Thank u all. BILL ... [End]
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- Re: Flush for high triglyceride levels- help please?!
by onogirl
10 year
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I definitely believe flushing will help---triglyceride levels respond very well to good fats such as olive oil, fish oil, etc. I’m 28 and have high cholesterol and triglycerides that are coming down. My mother has had great success with bringing her triglycerides down by using good fats in replace of the usual transfats that are in so many prepared foods. You’ll be around with your family, you just have to take action. [End]
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- Re: Flush for high triglyceride levels- help please?!
by flowerchild59
10 year
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Bill, you have come to the right place for information. I too have very high cholesterol and TG without meds. Start cleansing your liver so it works more effeciently. Don’t let the doctor talk you into lipitor or the such. They will only make your liver more congested, Here is link from the cholsterol forum. I had great results flushing and my numbers came down significantly. http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=174&i=59 ... [End]
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- Re: Flush for high triglyceride levels- help please?!
by tigerfish
10 year
1,345
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have you done any study on essential fatty acids? [End]
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- Re: Flush for high triglyceride levels- help please?!
by Fil
10 year
1,729
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Absolutely don’t take any cholesterol lowering drugs. They will cause you not to be around for your little son. There is too much hype about cholesterol. It’s a ploy by the drug companies to get people to take their drugs. (click on the link below to check out this site) ... ... Here are the facts! ... ... 1 Cholesterol is not a deadly poison, but a substance vital to the cells of all mammals. There are no such things as good or bad cholesterol, but mental stress, physical activity and change of body weight may influence the level of blood cholesterol. A high cholesterol is not dangerous by ...
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- Has this happened to anyone else???
by valerie
10 year
831
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Hey guys :) I was wondering if anyone have ever experienced this after a flush: I did my flush on monday night, passed stones tuesday (lots of them) and then this morning (wed.) I was totally fine, but at about 11 am, I started having this pain in my lower stomach right around where my ovaries are... It was sort of a piercing pain but not really too bad. Or kinda like a gas bubble or something. Anyways I was able to go #2 about 20-30 min. later and noticed a stone in my poo about 1/2 inch in length.. Do you think it was stuck a little bit and that’s what was causing the pain? It wen ...
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- Hey Val!
by Southern Belle
10 year
769
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Cngratulations on a successful flush! ... ... The pain you experienced could very well have been a stone problem, but it’s great you noticed that you passed the little bugger! ... ... Just keep on flushing until you see no more stones! ... ... Good luck and good health! ... Paulette G. [End]
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- Re: Has this happened to anyone else???
by tigerfish
10 year
737
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did you take the epsom salts to pass everything? it’s best to have everything forced out instead of it hanging around. [End]
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- Re: Has this happened to anyone else???
by shiny
10 year
724
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... ... I hope you’re feeling better. ... After my flush I didn’t have pain in the bowel area but in the gallbladder area (for the first time ever). Julia Chang said that the stones are probably moving around now there’s more space. Anyway, the pain went and I’m doing my second flush in 3 days.Can’t wait! [End]
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