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Help me. Brain Fog, Dizziness. Only 16.. by Breathee 65 min 12 Brain Fog / Adrenal Fa / Dr. Beck / 4 / 5 / 6

Hi everyone. I suffer from bad brain fog, dizziness when standing, racing heart, weakness, low energy, floaters in vision. I have had blood tests with nothing found. I’m only 16 and these things started happening a week after I went sober off alcohol {1 month ago} my diet was terrible, and now I eat more fruits and vegetables, cut out dairy and a lot of gluten. I just really want these things to go away and im not sure what to do!! Please help me!!!! [End]

Hypopituitarism

by Aerose91 140 min 17

Another seriphos question here. It’s been a month now since i took 1 pill and no improvement yet. Still feel drugged, sedated, bad headache, pupils beyond dilated.. but the most disturbing symptom is constant delirium. I have no recollection of anything I’ve done minutes prior to doing it and since I took the seriphos I have very little memory of the past month. ... I spoke to Julia Ross recently and asked her about her experiences with seriphos- she said she had no clue why this was happening but I need to get my pituitary function checked, so I’m going to see Dr Mariano in Monterey in June ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Hypopituitarism by Aerose91 124 min 13

Forgot to mention- since I took the seriphos my tempurature has also been all over the place. Usually it’s 96-97, now it bounces between 97 and 99 with most of the day at 98. That’s high for me. Only thing I can think of is my HPA is completely disregulated [End]

My bi-yearly check in

by Laredo7 22 h 118 Adrenal Fatigue / Chemical S / CFS, ME, C

Hi all, not sure if many of you remember me but I try to check in from time to time in hopes that someone who is suffering will look at my old posts and get some information that helps them find thier answers. Or maybe get some hope....I went from bed ridden to having just gotten married, having a flourishing career and remodeling our home and juggling a million other things....all stressful things. And yes, I still need to watch my stress triggers and levels and keep toxic people at bay but I can hike, sauna,live, stay up late, drink etc etc etc...my transformation has been profound. It c ... [retrieve this message]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by SB1108 21 h 91

Laredo - I’m so glad you are still doing so well! I was just thinking about you today and wondering how you were doing. I really appreciate you posting and giving us hope that eventually things may get better. I’ve been trying to detox copper for about 15-16 months now... I’m definitely better but not 100%. Thanks for the update! [End]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by #170295 21 h 89

remodeling your home, how fantastic not ... ... diva [End]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by HypoglyNOTHypochon 13 h 76

leredo7!im glad youre around ,and doing well!awesome! i have seen/researched many of your posts, particularly concerning histamine. oh good ol’ histamine. the reason for all of my troubles ; from constant surging adrenaline/brain fog , to depression anxiety/low dopamine&serotonin. ... ... at first i had a tough time diagnosing myself high/low histamine. partly due to not flushing w/niacin; which can happen if you are low in zinc... my symptoms are clear tho, flushed skin next to nose, super itchy episodes when stressed or hot, hot skin,hot flashes, feel horrible on high protein diet despite hav ... [retrieve this message]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by purplepixie 12 h 66

Fab, informative post hyponothypochon (love your name also! :-) ... ... The histamine thing has always confused me as i seem to fall into both camps of low and high regarding symptoms so without difinitive testing i’m still unsure, yet like you really do worse with high protein, hot itchy skin etc. ... ... Ammonia is an issue i’m battling with - what is OKG? ... ... Interestingly when i take Vit D i feel quite bad. More brain-fog - low emotions. I keep testing this with Vit D alone and no other vits and get the same reaction. I was taking 50,000iu mind you and changed to 2,000iu and still got the same re ... [retrieve this message]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by HypoglyNOTHypochon 10 h 55

hey thanks for the compliment! btw, we both have funny animal pictures.lol ... ... regarding your Vit.D ; co-factors are super essential (if you didnt know) . Magnesium, Vit.A, Vit k2. ive read many stories of people feeling worse after supplementing Vit.D ,if they dont have their co-factors up or take the co-factors. alot of people feel better or raise their vit.D quicker when they supplement with the co-factors. ... -Magnesium is also a mast-cell stabilizer.unstable mast-cells produce more histamine. magnesium is great for high-histamine. ... ... OKG, i havnt researched it much. but it is known to be ... [retrieve this message]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by purplepixie 9 h 50

Thanks again for the brill info - connecting dots is my new profession ;-) ... ... I’ll look more into the OKG...it sounds interesting. ... ... The Vit D cofactors - i read recently that Vit A and D should be taken widely apart from one another as they compete. It was a online doctors article (i might be able to find it again in my mega list of faves) who was shooting-down Dr Yashko for suggesting Vit A and D for her autistic kids. ... ... They talk about the article here: ... http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/25098-vitamin-a-antagonizes-vitamin-d/ ... ... Also: ... http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2010/jan2010_St ... [retrieve this message]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by HypoglyNOTHypochon 8 h 36

wow thats really crazy that i was talking about you. im sorry you had to go through that. geez, theres so many variables - genetic mutations is nothing ive thought about. its really interesting though. something we probably should all have tested; it should be mandatory really! ... ... lol @insane carrot addiction!hahaha ... ... ... and that Vit. D/Vit.A stuff is really some damn good info. thank you for that. ... and i know what you mean about timing supplements and even remembering to take them. its such a damn burden. its worth it though. ... ... im jealous that you have been copper detoxing for so long! ... [retrieve this message]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by Blistering Fate 11 h 58

Awesome. The information provided by Laredo its deep. Im putting it in other forums. The connection between adrenal fatigue, methylation and mast cell activation its proven now. [End]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by thelaughingdogs 11 h 57

Hey Laredo I am so glad you got your life back. I am doing tons better after detoxing copper for the last two years and feel I am on the edge of completing my healing. I got married in Oct. and survived the wedding stress without a hitch. I am glad you mentioned hiking because that is my goal for later this year. ... ... It’s great hearing from you and I am glad your posting about your experience so others can understand what might help them and that they can get over AF. [End]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by SeattleK 8 h 40

Wonderful news - I am doing much better myself by working on similar issues - but not quite at your level yet! [End]

Re: My bi-yearly check in by hope4myadrenals 168 min 23

Hi Laredo! Wow, that’s awesome you are enjoying your life fully! I’m doing copper detox now as well, and I’m starting to improve. I’m doing it slowly through Nutritional Balancing, so for me it will be a long, slow process, but it is so worth it. I’m so encouraged that you made it to the other side, and are enjoying your health and even got married. I’m so happy for you! [End]

Lupas

by ring5100 26 h 43

Hello. ... ... I was just wondering, as other health related disease can hinder adrenal fatigue grealy to or be an extenting decline with AF. ... ... Does anyone else have ”Lupas”? ( not sure if I spelled this right.) ... Is it consider within the viral family? ... ... And, do re-occurring scar marks show up in the same places on one’s forehead? ... ... Two blood tests I’ve had done over the past 3 years have showed high levels of Epstein Barr VIrus, which is no surprise to me, as I have herpes virus, the past 20 years too, with frequent outbreaks, do to my impaired immune system, evey before I had even moder ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lupas by omo 23 h 33

Lupus is an autoimmune disorder of mostly unknown origin. It often has a characteristic ”malar rash” that shows up on the cheeks. ... ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupus ... ... What I find intriguing is that at the onset of my ”Adrenal Fatigue”, or when it was getting dramatically bad so that I finally noticed my body was having some kind of problem, I had an array of symptoms, and at least a couple that resembled lupus. I was starting to get a malar rash and photosensitivity (and joint pain) (and others, but leaving off the non-differential stuff). [End]

designing coffee enema survey by omo 37 h 118

Hi, I’m wanting to survey all the fine ”Adrenal Fatigue” sufferers here for whether they’ve tried coffee enemas and what results they’ve had, but I want to make sure I ask the right questions in the survey. (Gonna do it via an online polling site.) ... ... The things I want to ask are: ... ... * Do you (believe you) have ”Adrenal Fatigue”? ... * Have you tried doing coffee enemas? ... * Did you crash or feel unwell in the days after the coffee enema(s)? ... * Did you feel better in the days after the coffee enema(s)? ... * Did you keep doing them? ... ... Do those sound like the right questions? [retrieve this message]

TB cause of 20% Adrenal Insufficiency cases in the DEVELOPED world by purplepixie 50 h 514 Adrenal Fatigue / Addison’s / Tuberculos

Think some awareness is needed about how prevalent TB still is in Europe, USA etc...it has not been as severely eradicated as we are lead to believe. ... ... On average 2 people out of every 100,000 in the UK/Ireland contract it. ... ... Hundreds of people in Ireland are diagnosed every year. ... ... Upon further research i then find that TB was the PRIMARY cause of adrenal insufficiency when Thomas Addison was around. ... ... I am finding current stats. of 20-30% of adrenal insufficiency cases are caused by TB in DEVELOPED countries. It’s law for docs to register cases so these stats are fairly reliable. ... ... [retrieve this message]

Zinc and copper

by Blistering Fate 60 h 93

Im not too sure, but for some reason every day that I start again supplementing with zinc (this NB supplement lasts forever, I have problems finishing it xD) I get more agressive. Could this be a copper dump? I thought it was testosterone but its not a healthy agressivity, it more like the hysterical yelling name-calling physical-violent agressivity. [End]

Re: Zinc and copper by WoolPippi 44 h 112

sure it can. Excess Copper floats around the synapses in your brain, messing with things. ... I get hyper active thoughts when in a Copper dump. Planning all kinds of world domination and becoming a rich and famous artist. Don’t nobody mess with me when I’m like that! ... ;) ... ... as long as it subsides I’m ok with it. ... I do get a ’heavy’ liver though, I suddenly notice I have one. Do you too? ... ... and have you found that with each Copper dump you recover sooner? [End]

Re: Zinc and copper by SeattleK 44 h 163

Yes! Wooippie my experience with copper dumps was the same! I would get manic, at times angry, and set towards world domination. ... ... So yes, Blistering, that is a sign of a copper dump, but that is not the only possibility so be careful. You might try molybendum and vit. C to see if you get the same reaction, if so it might be the copper (as moly and C also chelate it), but if only zinc bothers you it could mean that zinc itself causes you problems? ... ... But i’d bet its a copper dump. It’s best to dump copper gradually as well, so don’t overdo it. [End]

Re: Zinc and copper by Blistering Fate 38 h 124

Thats good info about vit c and moly, with that I would dissipate the doubts. So we will see with the new doc in a few weeks. I will take a higher dosage of zinc today and study the reaction. I dont remember if I get manic but sure I feel much more dominant. [End]

Re: Zinc and copper by Blistering Fate 38 h 101

Hehe! I get those phases as well, but I cannot remember if they are when im taking zinc or not. It might be related. I didnt notice anything with the liver. BTW im an artist as well and I am profoundly convinced most of the time that if I could focus on finishing something it would be a success. [End]

Re: Zinc and copper by Leo Bongaards 43 h 258

Hi ... There is a simple test you can do to find if you need zinc ... Obtain fluid zinc (Zinc drink) and taste a teaspoon of the fluid. If it tastes bad straight away you do not need zinc. ... If there is NO taste just tastes like water to you then you are zinc deficient. [End]

Re: Zinc and copper by Blistering Fate 38 h 100

Thats fascinating indeed. The body tricking us so we take what it needs. [End]

Re: Zinc and copper by wiredgeneration 34 h 38

its actually the way with most things...especially food but NB likes to put in supplements that you ’dont’ need to outset something else like the whole copper thing...when i had a hair test done Wilson wanted lots of zinc even though my zinc and copper was almost perfect. [End]

Possibility?

by #172023 4 days 98

Hello, I’ve been suffering from symptoms that relate to Adrenal Gland conditions but I can’t seem to get any headway with the doctors. I can’t do much of anything honestly. If I exert myself too much, I get week, my upper back starts to swell up with intense pain so bad that I cannot put pressure there, my right arm and chest goes numb, I get lightheaded, and my heart starts to pound out of my chest. I’ve had it so bad that I wanted to scream in utter agony and I soon passed out. That normally happens when I work too hard or if I get to emotional such as enraged or intense crying. But ever ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Possibility? by SeattleK 68 h 73

Well you are certainly not alone, this forum is full of people like you. For most of us, the story starts out just like yours, but it does get better. ... ... I don’t know what your bodies going through, but I generally tell new posters a few things that I think apply here: ... ... 1. break up your posts into paragraphs, and make them shorter if possible. It just makes it easier to read and it will get more replies that way. ... ... 2. Try going to a naturopath? GP’s are terrible at diagnosing adrenal issues, and when they do their treatments aren’t so great either. Be very careful with HC and other ho ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Possibility? by WoolPippi 45 h 58

I’m so sorry :( ... ... I cannot give you any advice because I do not have the energy to decipher your dense piece of writing. ... Could you insert some white lines please? ... ... It is easier on the eyes. I will read and give an opinion then as will others I’m sure. ... best, Anna [End]

What is happening? Any idea?

by dave505 4 days 355 Adrenal Fatigue / Candida Su / Parasites / 4 / 5

Everytime I eat oils and sometimes butter my cheeks are falling instantly like I lose my muscle tone or collagen loss but it happen almost instantly. And sometimes i have also somekind of rhinitis after that. At the beginning it happened when i ateyoughurt cream ice-cream chocolate...but now I don’t ... ... Most of the time I eat only cold pressed oils olives and rarely grapeseeds oils. Never encounter this issue with coconut oil. ... ... My presumptions are: ... - they are not organic or not genuine (could happen we can’t control here the source at all) ... - I’ve read about omega3 omega6 ratio which co ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by red424 4 days 227

Some foods I eat & my tinnitus spikes within seconds and I start to feel brain fog. Its not nearly as bad as it used to be but I sometimes had very fast reactions when eating certain foods. [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by sd2345 4 days 213

It’s not you reacting to the foods, it’s the parasites, and you feel the effects..... [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by sans sucre 4 days 174

Or, it could simply be leaky gut. Particles (food, proteins in particular) escape via permeable gut lining and go directly into blood stream where they don’t belong and cause those symptoms. [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by Johny Apple Bomb 4 days 177

All unsaturated fats are poison. The only good fat is saturated animal fats and coconut oil. [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by CLEW 4 days 203

Why it’s reacting to oil I don’t know, but it’s entirely possible to have mucor which includes thousands of species of fungal slime molds. I think we are constantly colonized whether we are immune compromised or not. Some ~could~ be beneficial even. ... ... Here’s an image taken of an unusual pattern that arose on my cheek while using the parasite paste: ... http://curezone.com/upload/Parasites/0031.jpg ... ... Months later I came across this pic of a slime mold that looks like it! ... http://curezone.com/upload/Parasites/slime_molds_21.jpg ... ... [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by Blistering Fate 60 h 98

Only in curezone you will find crazy shit like this. [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by saywhatagain 3 days 148

Simply not true. [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by CLEW 3 days 121

What part isn’t true? Being colonized? Thousands of types of slime molds? Or the photos? [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by saywhatagain 3 days 121

Sorry, wasn’t replying to you, was replying to the post by JAB saying that all unsaturated fats are toxic, this is not the case, but certainly some people can have bad reactions to these and will do okay on butter and coconut oil, so maybe to these people unsat. fats become toxic, but to make the generalization of saying all unsaturated fats are toxic is not correct. [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by CLEW 3 days 120

Oh : ) then I have to keep my trap shut because I know almost nothing about the oils... ... ... A question for dave505: What does that feel like when it happens? Is it like a goosebumps feeling? Just a curious thing... [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by #168214 67 h 112

You’re right. Sunflower oil, olive oil, safflower oil are healthy, to name a few. And don’t forget fish oil. [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by dave505 56 h 86

Hm...many thanks for feedback guys... ... For the moment I just took them off just to be sure. ... ... Clew :”A question for dave505: What does that feel like when it happens? Is it like a goosebumps feeling? Just a curious thing... ” ... ... Sorry Clew I have no more details :) it just happen this way - ”Everytime I eat oils and sometimes butter my cheeks are falling instantly like I lose my muscle tone or collagen loss but it happen almost instantly” - look like Sherpa for example told about loss of collagen in adrenal fatigue but it happend instantly. ... If I try to smile after or rise my cheeks feel ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by scabdraggr 49 h 91

Samples and pics of m artifacts have been examined by the main mycologists for the identification of slime molds, he told me personally, that no slime molds were associated with m, nor were any slime molds able to live inside a human body. [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by CLEW 47 h 524

”nor were any slime molds able to live inside a human body.” ... ... Right, and we don’t have Lyme disease in Florida because it stops at the state line! ... ... I definitely believe there are slime molds that have adapted to the human body, and I can’t help it if he doesn’t... ... [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by ChakraEight 27 h 42

The simple answer, from experience, is that you are experiencing a cerebral allergy. From here it gets slightly more complicated. It has been said that often what we crave is what we are allergic/intolerant to. One thing to note, is that often what we are allergic/intolerant to, is what we are in need of. This was a personal experience with fats. For years they made me worse. Once I started getting better, fats started giving me huge improvements. My face would droop similarly, with a rhinitic effect as well, not to mention the brain fog. ... ... So, the tricky part is how to overcome th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by scabdraggr 14 h 30

Clew, we cannot design this disease to fit our need to understand it. This action only leads to more confusion and the result is false beliefs due to false perceptions. ... ... I see you as smart and hard working, so don’t be insulted. ... ... The great Smoky mtns are home to more slime molds than any area of the world, mainly due to their age. They are the oldest mtns in the world. ... ... Dr Steve Stevenson from the UA, and a group of mycologists are involved with mapping and id’ing all the slime molds in these mtns. He is a professor of mycology at the University of Arkansas. ... ... I spoke with hi ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by sd2345 11 h 17

Until 1984, it was believed that the human stomach was sterile, that no bacteria could survive the stomach acids. I do believe at this time, we had some pretty powerful microscopes, even back in the early 1900’s, yet this belief was accepted by many teams of scientists and researchers. ... ... It is now known that not only does H Pylori infect most stomachs, but many other bacteria’s as well. Researchers and scientists say that the experiences reported on this forum are not possible. Scientists can be wrong. ... ... [End]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by dave505 10 h 24

Very true Sd. That reminds me of ... ... A. my father’s favorite saying regarding something he does not like to accept: ... ... ”it might exist but I don’t believe it” no other explanation necessary . It’s my favorite also :) ... ... B. I told my GP that worms (ascaris in that case) can entered organs like liver gallbladder... it happens to me. ... even brought him a US major gastro doc articles + photos of ultrasound proving that. He said: ... ... ”such thing doesn’t exist” ... ... No more comment about people willing to accept the reality. ... ... Still wondering whats it’s happening with my cheeks :) [retrieve this message]

Re: What is happening? Any idea? by CLEW 7 h 26

”He adamantly denied the ability of slime molds to exist inside the human body. I am not able to argue with his team of scientists about fungi. If you believe that you can then please go ahead. He is brilliant, so please choose your argument carefully. I have his private email and will provide it to you in a private setting.” ... ... Huh? Who’s arguing? I like getting along better. dave505 asked for any ideas about his cheeks and I decided to share the observation I’d made. Like you, I have a habit of taking pix of everything, especially when it doesn’t look quite right... ... ... I know Dr. Steven ... [retrieve this message]

jfk

by amber1921 4 days 78 Adrenal Fatigue / Addison’s / CFS, ME, C

When I think that JFK had Addison’s and became president it makes me feel better. ... ... How did he do that?... [End]

Re: jfk by Marie64 4 days 75

HI Amber, ... ... What I understand with JFK through other group I have been on for support of Addison’s Disease. I heard he was given high doses of hydrocortisone throughout the day to keep him going. Plus he had the care of Dr’s right by his side day and night. I beleive he was given injections. But since then they realized that high dose is not good for the body. Sadly he did not live long enough to see what the results of his other health would have been from such high doses. ... ... I have found for myself over the past 4 years I need to listen to the body and blood pressure. My normal bl ... [retrieve this message]

Re: jfk by wiredgeneration 4 days 62

I would be interested to hear his story as how he managed the campaign trail to get to present as he probably woukdnt of had all the specialist care when he was just a ’normal’ person.. What a legend to do it though, but yeah Marie you are right about what the after effects of high dose hc would of looked like [End]

Re: jfk by amber1921 4 days 61

I was wondering about that sort of thing too... ... What about the time before he even became a senator?... ... How did he even come up with the idea of going into politics in the first place? ... Where did all that ambition and motivation come from?... ... ... Really interesting... [End]

Re: jfk by Marie64 4 days 73

http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/g35.htm ... ... This is not the one I origanlly saw still searching...but this one is interesting. ... ... Marie [End]

Re: jfk by amber1921 53 h 124

Thank you for the link Marie ... ... The list of meds that Kennedy was on is pretty scary and indicates that he was on a destructive downward spiral... ... ... But his will to go gon despite the pain is so admirable [End]

Aspirin - Clinically proven to lower cortisol

by wiredgeneration 5 days 81

Read some interesting articles today ... ... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19404617 ... ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin ... ... http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/54/5/1136.full ... ... Just type it in to google, lots of info over Aspirins effects on the HPA system and its ability to lower cortisol. ... ... [End]

Re: Aspirin - Clinically proven to lower cortisol by Faith110 5 days 71

If you’ve got hidden salicylate intolerance, aspirin would be a double whammy to the adrenals as well :) [End]
- Re: Aspirin - Clinically proven to lower cortisol by wiredgeneration 5 days 68
  
  Dont jibber jabber me with all your fancy terms and go and find that receipt! :) x :) [End]
Re: Aspirin - Clinically proven to lower cortisol by TheNomad 5 days 61

If you’re going to take daily asprin make sure and take vitamin k2 with it... it counter-acts the possible negative side effects. [End]

Bone Broth

by ring5100 6 days 69

Re: Bone broth. ... ... Is it best to be taken with a meal or on empty stomach? ... ... Maybe with a meal, I’m presuming, as digestive enzymes is taken with meals, so than the broth is more easily assimilated ? ... ... Thank you. ... Paulette [End]

Re: Bone Broth by Sherpa 3 days 31

I usually drank mine on an empty stomach. I think it really helped me get ’back up to speed’ after crashes when my digestion was poor. [End]

Re: Bone Broth by ring5100 3 days 31

Thank you SHerpra. ... ... I just finished making my 3rd batch. Though have not been as committed to taking it regulary. ... ... I bought large cut up beef bones from a butcher shop and I keep them in my freezer. Also, save up my chicken bones and cook in the slow cooker for 2 days with 1 tbs. of apple cider vinegar, as this helps to leech more of the nutrients out. Than add salt and chicken flavoring. ... ... How long have you been doing this? ... ... PS. I left 2 posts in you personal forum mail too. ... ... Paulette [End]

Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal

/32 1 by ring5100 7 days 145

I’m going to start on one of these, even if I have to start super low and slow. ... I feel my liver is very toxic, as I’m not recycling supplements, meds, etc. and having more anxiety. ... ... I’ve read in some length about Lipo-Glutathione and also Immunocal by Immunotec. Both cost about th same, Immunocal a bit higher. ... ... But, I’m actually getting worse and have been the past 2.5 years. ... Only time I did make some recovery was when I had an IV nutrient infusion, with standard adrenal, chronic fatigue nutrients along with NAC, and glutathione. ... This was done 3 years ago too, when my body was a li ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal2 by wiredgeneration 6 days 132

Are you off the pharma meds Pauline? I only ask as after ive spent so much time researching them, we will never ’clear’ our livers while poisoning them daily...and the profund effects those meds have on brain, cns and endocrine systems are enourmous. These meds more often than not cause the anxeity, and definitely prevent it from going away. ... ... If you have quit, awesome! but itll be a while to get through the WD’s and the readjustment, so you might feel worse for a bit, but good things will come in time, and glut, nac and vitamin c are perfect once they are out. [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal3 by amber1921 6 days 117

Hello Paulette ... ... I’ve been researching this subject too somewhat. ... ... These two products are quite different and it depends on your condition which one might be the right option for you. ... ... Immunocal is a quality form of undenatured whey protein which contains lactoferrin, serum albumin and lactalbumin which are the rich sources of the amino acid L-cysteine which is then converted into glutathione in your body. It’s a good thing but your body has to still make glutathione out of it combining cysteine with two other aminos: glutamate and glycine (they say these two are abundant in almost al ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal4 by ring5100 6 days 86

What brand of GLutaathione (Liposomal) are you on? ... Paulette [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal5 by amber1921 5 days 67

I’m taking Dr.Lam’s Glutathione [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal6 by ring5100 5 days 62

Thanks. ... So how are you doing on Dr. lams Glutithione? ... ... I wonder, since the lecithin is derived from Soy, which I am not a fan of, if this can cause some effects for some folks? ... I am using his Lipo C. Just started 2 weeks ago, starting at only 1/4 tsp. 2 times a day. ... ... Paulette [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal7 by amber1921 4 days 52

Dr.Lam’s Lipo C has lecithin in it too. If you are taking it and don’t get a bad reaction it should be fine. ... I don’t like liposomal stuff that uses sunflower oil. It might be due to its histamine content. ... ... I like Dr.Lam’s products and they are cheaper. Especially the Lipo C. I bought 5 bottles of it at discounted price, so it ended up being less than half price per 1 g compared to the other brands. ... ... I can’t adequately assess my recovery progress at this point because I’m tapering off Xanax and the side effects of it override everything positive that I’m doing. In my situation I have t ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal8 by wiredgeneration 4 days 49

I used Lams products as well, good price and quantity and as he uses them in his ’clinic’ i would say decent quality...however i spent years supping this stuff and never got any better. In some ways I am glad of the hideous medication withdrawal I am in now, as I have learnt, like Amber that we will never heal while taking pharma drugs, its like putting all your money on a VW Beetle to win a drag race. Its never going to happen. ... ... I hope you have finished up the pharma drugs Paulette, I actually found glutathione and the vitamin C was a terrible addition while taking the meds..I always w ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal9 by ring5100 4 days 49

Thanks. ... ... I weaned off Zoloft (SSRI) as of last May, been a year free. ... ... But, I’ve been on oral estrogen since a total hysterectomy in 2001, and after that surgery, two weeks later not having gone on female hormone replacement, I was suicidal. ... ... Dr. than gave me estrogen, oral, and ZOloft. Do have to say, back than they saved my life. Was a 90% turn around in my health. But, I should have weaned off the Zoloft after a few years, as I was on that 10 years and wonder about the long term damaging effects it has had on my brain and HPA-axis. ... ... I am going to try again to go transdermal ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal10 by ring5100 4 days 52

Thanks for your reply and info. Appreciated all. ... ... How long have you been on the Lipo C and what dose program are you on with this? ... ... Are you also taking the Lipo GLutathione from Dr. Lam? ... ... That’s a plus, as it is helping with you anxiety and headaches. How long have you been on this than, glutathione, brand? ... ... Paulette [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal11 by amber1921 53 h 34

I’ve been taking Lipo C and Glut for a couple of months only but like I said I can’t say anything definite about their effectiveness yet. I just trust dr.Lam that it’s good for me and healing will take time. ... ... I’ve been going through multiple medication withdrawals at the same time so it’s really hard to say. ... ... However I take high dosages of Lipo C because it seems to give me some energy sometimes - 1600mg x 3 daily ... ... Glutathione - 285mg x 2 daily [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal12 by #155216 6 days 112

I tried Immunocal. It’s very strong stuff depending on what kind of state you are in. It could make your adrenals a lot worse in the short term by causing all sorts of die-off in the gut. ... ... Not convinced that lipo-glutathione works at all. ... ... ... You can also just take undenatured whey - immunnocal is just expensive undenatured whey. ... ... Try taking just NAC alone for your liver or coffee enemas [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal13 by omo 6 days 106

Some comments on coffee enemas: ... ... http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2034352#i ... http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1938835#i ... http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1917328#i [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal14 by #155216 5 days 75

Most of the content in those comments was from people theorizing or from people who have not done coffee enemas. ... ... I realize that the idea sounds very strange. And I also realize that if you have severe adrenal fatigue you will be extremely ware of caffeine in any form and come up with rationilizations to discredit any form of caffeine. ... ... But the reality of the situation is that many thousands of people have successfully done coffee enemas, they are endorsed by all manner of doctors throughout the world, they used to be listed in the Merck manual as a standard treatment, Dr. Gerson used ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal15 by Ruffneck 5 days 71

i’ve tried coffee enemas, didnt see any benefit [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal16 by #155216 5 days 82

They will only have a benefit for people with congestion in the liver. ... ... Also the method is important for some people, you have to retain them for long enough and have the concentration be strong enough to provoke the right response. ... ... If you suspect or know that you have liver congestion and had no response then I would say try again and double the concentration, and then triple if no response. And make sure your bowels are clear before the CE, either with a laxative or regular enema. After that if you have no response then it’s probably not going to work out for you. ... ... Everything var ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal17 by omo 5 days 64

Here’s how the coffee enemas are supposed to work. ... ... Vasodilation, bile release, activation of glutathione-s-transferase. ... ... Why not achieve the vasodilation and bile release using methods other than the stimulants from coffee? ... ... Why not stimulate GST with palmitic acids by themselves? ... ... Why not use some other choleretic, like artichokes? Why not use some other bile-sequestering substance? ... ... Orthodoxy -- adherence to custom -- without understanding is more about emotional satisfaction than it is a search for truth. Don’t hold people back because they leer at your sacred cow. [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal18 by #155216 5 days 66

Those are all really good ideas, truthfully. ... ... Artichoke is a known cholagogue, but it only works for some people some of the time, not as effective as CE’s or liver flushes. If it does work for you then it is much easier then either of the two others. ... ... Palmitic acid is just a working theory, I don’t know of anyone who has tried to use it as you intended. Give it a try and report back. It could be caffeic acid or some other alkaloid or combination of alkaloids in the coffee that produce the bile stimulating effect. Also you may have to administer it rectally, who wants to go experiment ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal19 by omo 37 h 87

I think maybe we’re being too antagonistic. ... ... I have often run up against people recommending coffee enemas regardless of the stimulation, which I believe is bad for people with ”Adrenal Fatigue”. Realizing that the stimulation from coffee enemas is bad for AF seems like a no-brainer. Yet people are so attached to liking coffee enemas that they refuse to see anything wrong with them. That’s what I mean about sacred cows. ... ... ”No, no, this cow is sacred. Can’t be bad. Stimulation is hard on the adrenals? Not a problem with this, the caffeine’s magically neutralized, um, ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal20 by omo 6 days 96

I haven’t tried those. ... ... I’ve taken NAC, SAM-e, Milk Thistle seed, and undenatured whey protein. ... ... It’s hard to say for sure how much these things have helped, to be honest. I started doing them in earnest around the time my health was getting much better, so there’s some correlation, but I haven’t had time or opportunity to really test them out. ... ... I’d like to do a 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off test, three times. I think then I would have a perfectly clear picture of the impact of these things. [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal

/32 21 by amber1921 6 days 105

NAC is proven to be effective and it does work for sure. ... I have a history of tylenol overdose and if it was not for NAC I wouldn’t be here. ... ... The issue with it as a supplement is that it’s no longer the natural form of Cysteine which Immunocal claims to be but a chemically altered drug which as great as it is does have some side effects. It’s the cheapest and the most reliable way to detox your liver in my opinion provided that you don’t get the side effects. After I finish all the Glutathione I’ll definitely try it next. ... ... ... Omo ... ... I read that supplementing with L-Methionine increases ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal22 by omo 5 days 60

I read that supplementing with L-Methionine increases the levels of homocysteine which leads to atherosclerosis and blah blah.... Isn’t SAMe a form of Methionine?... What do you think?... ... ... I have read that there can be atherogenic results from certain kinds of methylation increase, but I haven’t figured out the details of it yet. At this point I’m doing a lot of methylation increasing, so I should get a handle on this before long. I only know that increasing one’s B vitamins is protective. Please let me know if you’ve got any good insights. ... ... And one more question: which brand of L ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal23 by amber1921 4 days 50

Funny it was Swanson brand that gave me some doubts... ... I was taking Nature’s Way and later Swanson after I ran out. ... ... It might be a coincidence though but I feel much better when I took Nature’s way again after a coulpe of weeks which leads me to believe that Swanson was not working at all... ... ... On Nature’s Way bottle it says: take 2 (450mg) capsules three times a day which I’ve been taking... I suspected it was too much but since it didn’t give me no negative effects I didn’t bother to look up how much is a recommended dosage... ... I feel much stronger though when I take that much...I tr ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal24 by omo 18 h 25

Once SAM donates its methyl group to choline, in the formation of creatine, carnitine, DNA, tRNA, norepinephrine, and other compounds, it is transformed into S-adenosyl-homocysteine, (SAH). Under normal circumstances, homocysteine, in the presence of vitamin B6, vitamin B12, and folic acid (SAM’s main cofactors), will eventually be converted back into methionine, SAM, or cysteine, glutathione, and other useful substances. However, if adequate amounts of these vitamins are not present, SAM may not break down properly. As a consequence, its full benefits will not be obtained, and homocystein ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal25 by amber1921 11 h 15

Thank you omo ... ... Given the fact that vitamin B dificiency is so common it might very well be the root cause of the elevated homocysteine. Makes sense to me. ... ... P.S: always enjoy your replies because they are informative and to the point:) [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal26 by omo 10 h 16

Come on, it’s because you think I’m cute, too. ... ... [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal27 by ring5100 6 days 87

? What is this? Is it different from most whey proteins? ... What brand? ... Thanks. Paulette [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal28 by omo 6 days 77

Undenatured basically means uncooked. Proteins change when they’re cooked (or exposed to acids (ceviche is a kind of cooking, using citric acid)). You can get whey protein in its undenatured or denatured forms, but the undenatured kind is apparently what your body can use to most efficiently make glutathione. ... ... I’m using the stuff I found at Swanson vitamins. [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal29 by ring5100 5 days 63

? ... ... Paulette [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal30 by omo 5 days 55

I expect that whey protein powder that isn’t specifically labelled ”undenatured” is probably not undenatured. ... ... I don’t know what else they’ve got in Immunocal, but I’m guessing it’s not anything you can’t get otherwise. [End]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal31 by amber1921 4 days 41

Most of the whey proteins that you find at GNC are denatured which means they have been processed. There is nothing wrong with it if you need to increase your lean muscle mass but they won’t do anything for your immune system or your liver:) ... ... Undenatured whey is different and that’s what you need to raise your Glutathione levels. ... ... When you buy undenatured whey protein look for words like: ... ... -bioactive ... -low-heat processed ... -cross-filtered ... -contains lactoferrin, serum albumin and lactalbumin ... ... Stay away from anything that says ION EXCHANGE on it. It means that it has been mixed wit ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lipo-Glutathine vs. Immunocal32 by omo 5 days 68

The biological activity of undenatured dietary whey proteins: role of glutathione: ... ... In addition, the mice fed this type of whey protein concentrate exhibit higher levels of tissue glutathione. The presence in the serum albumin fraction of glutamylcysteine groups (rare in food protein) and the specific intramolecular bond as related to the undenatured conformation of the molecule are considered to be key factors in the glutathione-promoting activity of the protein mixture. ... ... Maybe Immunocal’s nice, but this is already good. [End]

Awesome Success story blog

by hawskfan9325 7 days 207 Adrenal Fatigue / Depression / Anxiety / 4 / 5

http://misslizzy.me/blog/ ... ... Check this chick out. Cured her AF with HC, successfully weaned off, and now does hardcore strength training at 40 yrs old! ... ... I’m next, who’s with me? This thing is treatable guys. Focus hard on finding a good doc! I got my appointment tomorrow. If you are in Illinois, pm me. [End]

Re: Awesome Success story blog by WoolPippi 66 h 89

She looks wonderful healthy! ... ... her issues were at last half about hypothyroidism. ... ... My AF is causes by other hormonal issues and exhausted adrenals. I already cured my low thyroid function by eating full saturated fats and quiting my adrenal bashing. And reading that wondeful website she links to, Stop the Thyroid Madness ... ... Now I am on hydrocortison and resting a lot. This too improves my health considerable! But progress is measured in months or years, not weeks. My life is still on halt. I am now restoring the Zinc-Copper balance and this is exhausting. But I recover quickly from each ... [retrieve this message]

What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root

by brazilianguy 7 days 121 Adrenal Fatigue / Addison’s

I’d like to know if a normal person taking a dosage for example 10mg of HC the person will feel something different? ... If a person takes 60mg of HC in just one day a normal person without adrenal fatigue the person will feel any side effect? Same thing about licorice and prednisone. [End]

Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by Sherpa 7 days 109

For what’s its worth - I have seen a ”normal” person take licorice and prednesione (for injury, hives, etc) and it seemed to give them a little more energy & vitality. [End]

Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by Marie64 7 days 106

Hi brazilianguy I am actually diagnosed with Addison’s so I do take hydrocortisone on a low dose 10 mg daily. Feel normal..To take 60 mg daily you would feel more anxxious and on all the time..you would not be able to shut down when night comes. I have been there. Plus you will get side effects like face mooning, stomach will look like you have a basket ball underneith a shirt..painful. Why would you ask? ... ... Plus you will want to pretty much eat everthing insight.. ... ... Marie ... ... [End]

Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by brazilianguy 6 days 81

Because I don’t trust in compound pharmacy anymore. I bought licorice root and HC and yesterday I took a very high dosage in the morning 60mg of HC and 900mg of licorice and I didn’t feel anything different so I guess they just took my money. [End]

Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by hawskfan9325 6 days 71

Why the hell would you take 60 mgs at once of HC? That’s a pharmacological dose! [End]

Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by brazilianguy 5 days 55

Just to see if the HC that I bought was real and now I clearly see that is not. I was taking 10mg, then 20mg and I didn’t see any difference then I decided to take a high dosage 60mg HC and 900mg of licorice root. Both are fake products because I took a high dosage of both and didn’t see any difference both are compounding farmacies. [End]

Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by Marie64 5 days 50

Hi Brazilianguy, ... ... A big way to tell to is through Blood pressure..with just taking 10-20 mg of hydrocortisone should increase your blood pressure by atleast 5...if your normal was 98/63 (with in 15 minutes ) you should increased to atleast 103/63...Higher dose of 6o should bring your blood pressure much higher...Unless under extreme stress you may need a good dose but I do thing the 60mg would bring it up some under extreme stress. ... ... Marie ... What a shame, was this a local Pharmacy? or online? YOu should report them if this is true...so sad and so dangerous. ... ... [End]

Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by hawskfan9325 5 days 53

I have a source for HC if you want it, feel free to email me. It’s a pharmacy in Australia, they ship right to you :) [End]
Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by amber1921 5 days 53

I take 900mg Licorice root 3 times a day and there is to have an effect. ... However when it comes to herbs it varies between different manufacturers. [End]
- Re: What if a normal person takes HC or prednisone or licorice root by omo 5 days 59
  
  Check your dosage, the 900mg is often cited for 2 capsules of 450. [End]

Long term effects of seriphos?

by Aerose91 8 days 93

So, yes, I’m still getting hammered by the effect of the seriphos I took 3 weeks ago. I took 1 100mg pill and because of my benzo w/d I’m getting effected as if I am swallowing an entire bottle every day. No let up yet. ... At this point I am wondering what the effects are of something equivalent to long term, very high dose seriphos? I didn’t take it long term or high dose but that’s how my body is reacting to it. ... I am having trouble keeping concousness throughout the day. I will sleep plenty and then constantly be falling asleep while driving or eating or whatever. Feels like im very h ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by wiredgeneration 7 days 89

Im sorry you are still suffering dude, but god would I swap places with you at the moment for some sleep! ... ... Do you think that potentially your Seriphos was contaminated? So many synthetic vitamins are, and there are a whole heap of stories who have ended up with CFS/ME type symptoms since taking a vitamin supplement. ... ... Seriphos reduces cortisol by tell the pituitary to not send the alarm bells to the adrenals, but this takes MONTHS of high doses, god its barely touched mine after six weeks of 8 tabs a day, so i dont think it will have done any permanent damage. ... ... If you have the money ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 7 days 73

Damn I hope it wasnt contaminated, but I do t think so. I think it’s just how sensitive my system was to it but unfortunately only 1 pill is making me react like I heavilly overdosed on it. Not super uncommon in be so withdrawal- I spoke to a lady who took 1 hypathalamus glandular and she said she had the worst anxiety/panic wave for 2 months straight with no let up. ... I should probably do another saliva test at this point given how hard this has hit me. Just hoping it will wear off sometime soon and the effects won’t stay with me ... ... How u holdin up dude? [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 7 days 77

Oh yah and things have hit me hard before since this benzo w/d. I had a doctor give me 1 spray of lidocaine in my nose and it threw me back into acute w/d for 3 weeks. Full on panic attacks and halleucinations and tremors and all. Figuring this is the same thing but I hoping the severity of the effect won’t tone down my HPA too much or it will kick back up eventually. ... ... Yah, never thought I’d say it but I wish I was back in ”just” AF [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by wiredgeneration 7 days 84

I think you already know the answers to your question dude. God, but I know everyday you want to ask the question again, to find a glimmer of hope, a different experience or view point, someone that can help, as i do the same, but for both of us, I don’t think we will. We already know the answers. ... ... I am starting to try and come to terms with the fact that my experience with benzos has now left me disabled, and now I need to figure out how I am meant to survive, and whether I should really bother. [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 7 days 76

Yah dude i know what’s causing this I’m certain about that. I’m just wondering what long term changes may have been done as a result. I also thought that this may have put me over the top into Addison’s as my AF is very very severe. I have that same intense nausea now as I did when I was at my worst. The problem is that I can’t take any hormones if this is Addison’s because of the interaction with the benzo withdrawal. It will damage my brain further. Yes these be benzos really are life ruiners, especially if u want to recover from AF. ... U godda hang tight tho bro, ur still so young in the ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 7 days 68

Another thing I’m getting is this SUPER intense euphoric feeling. Like- the strongest exstacy trip I’ve ever been on. I read that some people had some mild euphoria from this but this is ridiculous, I can barely even feel my feet their so warm. I’m having every symptom possible assosiated with this thing but 1000x times stronger and 24/7 [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by amber1921 7 days 67

I’m afraid to give you any advice at this point...but... ... ... Low sodium can make you trip balls... ... ... Found that out recently myself... ... ... Could that be that you lowered cortisol to some critical point when some compensatory mechanisms turned on? Like anti diuretic hormone?... ... ... Sorry if I’m off the topic ... ... ... [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 7 days 62

Thx amber ... ... I’m not sure, I keep my sodium intake really high actually. Like, simply as much as I can handle [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 7 days 62

What else is weird too is that since I took this thing I’ve had the sedated feeling but haven’t felt my AF at all. My tempurature even went up. I have a lot of ”artificial” energy- similar to the energy I felt during acute benzo w/d. Hypoglycemia and everything went away. ... I know my dopamine is through the roof tho and that’s probably causing high adrenaline. It just comes sporadically and there’s no rhyme or reason. [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by wiredgeneration 7 days 56

Dude maybe you are cured of AF, your HPA has sorted itself out, and now all this sleeping is restoring everything. Maybe now just gotta wait for your benzo brain to settle down, you’ll be back training in a few months! :) [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 7 days 47

Lol, yah in that case I guess I found the magic cure! [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by amber1921 6 days 53

You are making it sound very attractive. I want to try seriphos myself since my AF got so bad last couple of weeks:) ... ... Some ideas about your situation: ... ... - how do you know it’s your dopamine that’s high and not your serotonin?... ... You mentioned euphoria and that you feel like you took E which works on serotonin. ... Dopamine and serotonin produce their own distinctively different euphoric sensation but if it was dopamine you wouldn’t be sleeping much. ... High serotonin causes temperature increase and is compatible with sleep sometimes. ... And they both would give you equaly intense energy r ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 6 days 49

I thought about that too. It’s possible but I concluded on dopamine because when those euphoric rushes do happen I can’t sleep- it wakes me up because I feel an epinephrine rush. I know dopamine converts to epinephrine. Also my pupils are dilated out of my skull and I’m disassociated- almost in delerium and I know dopamine can do that. The brain is so complex tho and things/pathways are so screwed up from this benzo w/d that nothing would be shocking to me. However this did give me a brain fog and short term memory loss just like what I had back in acute ... =(. Starting over I guess. [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by amber1921 5 days 35

I’m sorry to hear that... ... ... This particular combination of having AF and going through a benzo WD is the worst of both worlds. Especially for you guys who went CT... ... ... Going through something like that not only makes one physically almost disabled but takes away your sanity as well... ... ... Please Areose and Wired stay strong and do not lose hope [End]

Re: Long term effects of seriphos? by Aerose91 5 days 40

Thanks Amber ... ... Yes my AF recovery was going well until Ativan came into the mix and now just two weeks on that pill and its still controling every aspect of my life 1 year later. I have lost any progress with my AF and if anything, gone backwards. All the while this time was replaced by horrible darkness and despair and residence in the 9th circle of hell where satan himself doesn’t dare venture. ... I have decided now, after this seriphos reaction is not getting better, to end my fight toward AF recovery. I am barely hanging on to sanity let alone the ability to feel what my adrenals are ... [retrieve this message]

How is your AFS Recovery coming along?

by Sherpa 8 days 177

Dear CureZone AF Community, ... ... How is this journey coming along for you? ... ... In order to give others insight into this long and not-well-understood process, please share your experience in the replies below. ... ... If you have the clarity and energy, you can answer the following questions: ... ... ... Question #1 - How long have you been actively working on your adrenal fatigue recovery? ... ... Question #2 What percentage of your peak, pre-AFS energy level do you have now? ... ... Question #3 - What nutrients (or drugs) have been most helpful to you? ... ... Question #4 - What non-supplement modality has been mos ... [retrieve this message]

Re: How is your AFS Recovery coming along? by onedaysoon 8 days 138

Question #1 - How long have you been actively working on your adrenal fatigue recovery? Since November 2011 ... ... Question #2 What percentage of your peak, pre-AFS energy level do you have now? about 50% on a good day ... ... Question #3 - What nutrients (or drugs) have been most helpful to you? magnesium, l-theanine, ... ... Question #4 - What non-supplement modality has been most helpful to you? (e.g., Meditation, yoga, breathing, earthing etc.)reading ... ... Question #5 - What symptoms have you cured? brain fog, menstrual cramps, digestion is getting better, depression, nausea, diarrhea ... ... Question #6 - ... [retrieve this message]

Re: How is your AFS Recovery coming along? by amber1921 7 days 107

Hi ... ... 1. I’ve been recovering from AFS since January 2012 wihout knowing all the specifics of my condition. I thought I just freaked out because I lost my job... I also thought that all my symptoms were due to depression... ... ... 2. Few months ago I stopped taking my antidepressants and ADHD meds which revealed the true pitiful condition my body is in now - I have maybe 10% of my energy level and that’s on a good day... ... ... 3. Liposomal Vitamin C and Glutathione - improvement in severe tension headache; ... L-Carnitine, CoQ10 and D-Ribose for energy ... N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine - for clarity o ... [retrieve this message]

Re: How is your AFS Recovery coming along? by WoolPippi 64 h 47

Question #1 - How long have you been actively working on your adrenal fatigue recovery? ... since Spring 2008 ... ... Question #2 What percentage of your peak, pre-AFS energy level do you have now? ... 40% (it used to be 15% so I am proud) ... ... Question #3 - What nutrients (or drugs) have been most helpful to you? ... full saturated fats (Homo Optimum diet); hydrocortisol; bio-identical progesteron (npc and Utrogestan); salt; magnesium citrate; lithium (food supplement from Biotics); gluten free diet; vit. D; vit. C; home made chicken broth; vinegar and lemon juice to aid stomach acid. ... ... Question #4 - Wh ... [retrieve this message]

Re: How is your AFS Recovery coming along? by dave505 64 h 47

Hi Sherpa, ... Since now you proved to be a nice guy but with all these questions you put a lot of stress on my adrenals :))). May I suggest using the poll section on cz to ease the pain with a message link here ? Would be much easier to answer _ anything that makes my ”work” easier makes me happy? ... ... And again as i wrote several months before you are so organized and clear thinking i would hire you if I can, really...:) [End]

Re: How is your AFS Recovery coming along? by Sherpa 10 h 19

Dave505, ... ... Thanks for the tip on the poll, I didn’t know about it... ... ... Sorry for the adrenal stress, it was something I considered in starting this thread but figured that those who didn’t have the energy to apply just wouldn’t. ... ... I used to be a professional blogger before AFS, so I have a lot of practice at writing points out clearly. It feels wonderful to have the brain fog gone and be able to ”think”. I would love to do writing work again sometime - but in a less stressful capacity than the 24/7 digital treadmill that I used to be on. [End]

Re: How is your AFS Recovery coming along? by hope4myadrenals 50 h 31

Great questions, Sherpa! I used to post on this forum often, but took a break a year ago. Now I’m back, but wasn’t going to post, until I saw your question. ... ... Question #1 - How long have you been actively working on your adrenal fatigue recovery? Four years, since spring 2009. ... ... Question #2 What percentage of your peak, pre-AFS energy level do you have now? Maybe 40-50%. A couple years ago I was down to 10%, so this is great improvement. ... ... Question #3 - What nutrients (or drugs) have been most helpful to you? As my body chemistry changes, different nutrients are more helpful. Also, my ... [retrieve this message]

Why waking up at 5 am anxious?

by SeattleK 9 days 234 Adrenal Fatigue / Candida Su

Hey all, ... ... While I am sleeping much better than I was a year ago, every single night I wake up in the middle of it. ... ... I usually wake up after about 5 hours of sleep, so if I go to sleep at 2 I wake up at 7 or 8, if I go to sleep at 11 I wake up at 4 or 5 etc. ... ... I wake up with intense heart palpitations (this is an ongoing symptom for me related to GERD/digestive issues), and anxiety. ... ... If I wait about an hour and read it usually goes away on its own and I fall back asleep for another 2 or 3 hours and sleep really hard. ... ... Why is this? I’ve heard about liver issues doing this? cortiso ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by ericbakker 9 days 187

Do a salivary cortisol test - one sample at 8.00am, one at 12.00pm, one at 4.00pm and the last one at 10.30pm. ... ... You are best to get rid of ALL caffeine in your life, and be sure to keep regular hours, i.e; get to bed when you are tired. Weird sleep cycles can often be attributed to an elevated early morning cortisol level (between 2 - 5 am), and not a ”deficiency” of melatonin. Pregnenolone is not a clever idea, it is the precursor to DHEA and progesterone, which converts to cortocosteroids in the body. I’ve personally never been a fan of ”replacement” hormonal therapy when it comes to i ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by omo 8 days 128

Use caution when prescribing times for cortisol tests. Not everyone keeps the same schedule and diurnal hormone rhythms are tied to sleep schedule, not time of day. [End]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by ring5100 9 days 156

Same for myself too. ... And, I’m not sure either. I do know, when I was not in this severe stage of AF 5 years ago or even up till the past 2 years, I was pretty much able to sleep ok through the night, but not always. ... ... So, it is tied into the whole severe adrenal stage thing. ... ... I wonder about liver clearance as I know the body does most of it’s repair work during sleep. The kidneys, liver, etc. ... ... I will go to sleep calm to semi calm and wake up about 2-3 hours later with feeling hot. Than will put the fan on me and most often fall back to sleep,than wake again either about 4:30am or ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by thelaughingdogs 9 days 151

I have gotten to the point that I don’t wake up at 5 am as much. I go long stretches until I am detoxing. That is usually what does it for me and it’s cortisol that starts up. I started working on candida and it started again. [End]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by Leollipop 9 days 171

Hey i sort of had that problem too and i was where you are not too long ago.. I was on the candida diet and had digestive problems too and was in that kind of vicious cycle where my anxiety was causing digestive problems and digestive problems causing anxiety etc.. if you’re under eating you really need to start eating more because it could be that you are not eating enough.. i have low blood sugar from not eating enough and would wake up and find it so hard to get back to sleep because my body was so starved.. i had no appetite due to my AF though which made it very difficult to eat and i ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by omo 8 days 134

I used to get that all the time. Took me a few years to stop doing it, but you don’t have to wait that long. ... ... I believe it was from a dysregulated (L)HPA axis causing hormone fluctuations. Calm the HPA. Meditation, progressive relaxation, breathing exercises. You have to retrain your mind out of alarm mode. Also, try lysine supplementation to ease the anxiety. ... ... You are probably also experiencing symptoms of cortisol shunt. I bet you’re spending lots of cortisol. [End]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by ring5100 8 days 114

Lysine for anxiety? New. ... ... Worked for you? how much? ... Thanks, Paulette [End]
- lysine v. anxiety by omo 8 days 93
  
  https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=lysine%20anxiety ... ... I take a gram daily. You might try taking it with arginine. [End]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by AdrenalSuccess 7 days 88

Have you checked your blood sugar when you wake up? It made a big difference when I started testing that. ... ... A lot of folks with adrenal fatigue also have some form of Insulin Resistance. [End]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by WoolPippi 66 h 32

I had this all my life, even as a child. Five hours sleep, wake up and be REALLY alert. Alertness weanes after about one hour and a half. Try to sleep some more. Start the day. ... Before I became ill (at age 35) this was not a problem. Plenty of cortisol to go around! ... ... Because yes, this is a cortisol peak. Half time of cortisol is 1,5 hours which explains why you calm down after that period. ... ... This is the peak ’normal people’ use to rise and get out of bed with in the morning. ... I have no idea why we get it in the middle of the night instead of in the morning. That is something everybody h ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Why waking up at 5 am anxious? by Blistering Fate 60 h 27

Haha Omo the Llama! Yeah lots of us are in sympathetic dominance or fight/flight state. I know I am! My reflexes are impressive. [End]

Dr. Lam's Liponano C cheap

by Faith110 9 days 106 Adrenal Fatigue / Vitamin C

Hey all, ... ... I’ve got an unopened bottle of Dr.Lam’s liponano C that I cannot take due to the additives and unfortunately cannot return it because it’s been over 30 days since I bought it. With shipping etc I paid about $65 for it. I’m offering it for $45 with the shipping included. Private message me if interested. [End]

Re: Dr. Lam's Liponano C cheap by wiredgeneration 9 days 119

Girl ill have that off you, fb’d ya x [End]

benzo expert

by #155216 9 days 126

If you read through curezone, instead of POSTING like you are an expert (ahem), you would see that Unyquity is probably the resident expert at getting people off of the stuff. ... ... ... NATURAL HEALING FORUM! ... ... She knows her stuff let me tell you, along with a few other people on curezone. But none of you guys can see your way out of the cloud to know who to even take advice from. ... ... There are no magic pills like guessing about manipulating gaba recpetors and trying to outfox your neurotransmitter chemisty ( I cannot believe the folly of some people). ... ... You eat well, parasite cleanse, bowel ... [retrieve this message]

Re: benzo expert by wiredgeneration 9 days 105

Wow, back so soon. If you had done your research you would of found that it isnt a case of ’clearing’ it out of ones system, bless you, keep em coming though im looking forward to the next one as it seems someone has already alerted this one to the mods...again. [End]

Re: benzo expert by Aerose91 9 days 81

You certainly sound like your mind is in the midst of a benzo withdrawal yourself. Maybe that’s where all your ”knowledge” comes from ... ... For my money- my favorite thing in this entire forum is to see Wired chop you down at the knees at every thing you post. Lol, keep ’em comin. [End]

Re: benzo expert by Aerose91 9 days 79

And yes, I nearly sustained severe brain damage from 2 weeks on benzos and decided to take on the c/t withdrawal because it was actually less risky at the time than staying on. 1 year later I’m still living in an alternate dimension. [End]

cortisol may not only suppress inflammation, but promote it

by omo 9 days 79

They found that the role of cortisol varies depending on the context. At normal levels, cortisol neither promotes nor suppresses inflammation. When it is at a high level during an acute, stressful event-as when facing a snarling dog-cortisol suppresses inflammation. But several hours after the jump in level, it can promote immune responses. ... ... Also, cortisol affects digestion, leading to irritation of the mucosal lining, which leads to more inflammation, and a need for a cortisol response. [End]

also, adrenaline may promote inflammation by omo 9 days 70

We conclude that adrenaline may contribute to a coordinated reaction by influencing the inflammatory response via direct regulation of leukocyte migration and/or apoptosis. ... ... Some more: ... ... Traditionally, the adrenal gland has been considered an important endocrine component of the pathway to inhibit acute inflammation via hypothalamic corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH)-mediated secretion of glucocorticoid. Immunoreactive CRH found in inflamed tissues is a potent proinflammatory factor. Using genetic and pharmacological models of CRH deficiency, we now show that CRH deficiency unmasks ... [retrieve this message]

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Re: benzo zombies by wiredgeneration 9 days 86

Interesting concept, who are you talking to by the way? as the two people on here suffering the most are the ones that went cold turkey because they no longer wanted the poison in, and cold turkey is quite possibly the most dangerous thing to do. I am testament to that with my multiple siezures and what is now, five months of suffering. Addiction never existed. ... ... Might be good to learn the facts before shouting (yet again) or maybe take some benzos and cold turkey yourself, as you have absolutely no understanding of the trauma involved. But keep on humouring us by speaking, keeps me for o ... [retrieve this message]

Re: benzo zombies by Ruffneck 9 days 71

Not to mention withdrawal from benzos is potentially life threatening.Thats not just me saying that it’s a well known fact.OP is advising people to do something that could potentially kill them! benzos need slow taper especially if you have been on them a long time. [End]

Re: benzo zombies by wiredgeneration 9 days 72

Dude, shes just trying to get a rise again, i doubt she actually has any friends :) yep i had two siezures, second put me on life support...but you know its all in my head apparently ! [End]

Re: benzo zombies by amber1921 9 days 70

Stopping benzos is not about being a hero, it’s about keeping your sanity in the process. ... ... Benzo withdrawal is very relevant to the topic of this forum since a lot of people with AF end up on those drugs and it takes years to restore the HPA axis after they stop taking them. It has nothing to do with psychological aspects of addiction or not having the necessary will power. ... ... BenzoBuddies website provides information and help for those who might unwillingly hurt themselves by attempting to CT a benzo in a manner that you are suggesting and end up with some degree of brain damage to say ... [retrieve this message]

Re: benzo zombies by wiredgeneration 9 days 61

Dont rise to it Amber, she will get banned soon enough.. [End]

Hypothyrodism (T3) iron connection. by Klauss 10 days 77

Hi all. ... ... I am struggling with few remaining AF symptoms. They look like those present in Hypothyroidism. I was checking various forums for T3 supplement. This is what i found: ... ... http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm ... ... I have exactly what the authors mention i.e. high ferritin, low serum iron 9 (9-30) low normal saturation. High ferritin is typical with hypothyroidism. ... ... One of Naturopath suggested i would give blood to reduce ferritin level. Probably, I would crawl out of the blood clinic because this would also reduce iron level. ... ... According to the authors, the iron is necessary f ... [retrieve this message]

Ever thought about Glutamate?

by wiredgeneration 10 days 166 Adrenal Fatigue / CFS, ME, C

As many of you know, I am in the depths of hell from a cold turkey benzo withdrawal. Talking to people and reading stories on various benzo survival forums, the effects of a withdrawal mimic adrenal Fatigue and CFS almost to the tee. So benzo withdrawal, and tolerance withdrawal, due to the high state of stress it puts the body into, can cause AF. ... ... I was also warranted to ’kindling’ by my doctor, a process of trying many hypnotic drugs to make me sleep, and each drug causing neurological changes in its own withdrawal..so over two years and around 15 different drugs, you get the picture! ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by #155216 10 days 126

take some gaba [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration 10 days 122

Unfortuantely dosent quite work like that but thanks for your detailed and highly educated suggestion my old friend [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by #155216 10 days 119

why can’t you take gaba? ... ... [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by amber1921 10 days 119

GABA supplements don’t work if taken orally. ... ... Might work sublingually but very ineffective anyway. ... ... You have to train your body to produce more GABA but it takes time and concentrated effort. [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by #155216 10 days 118

I have taken gaba before orally and it worked fine. ... ... [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration 10 days 107

Worked fine? are you fit and well after taking it? did it just cover up the potential problem. ... ... If there is an inbalance, this can (and is in medication victims) be down to the gaba receptors in ones brain that have regressed as the brain thought they were no longer needed (because the benzos created all the gaba needed and then some). So the body and brain, as Amber said, needs to be coerced into regrowing the receptors. [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by omo 9 days 73

Maybe you’re talking about downregulation? That’s when cells reduce the amount of something, for example receptors to signalling chemicals. If you overstimulate receptors like GABA receptors, they’ll get downregulated. ... ... If you feel you’re low on GABA receptors, you’re probably looking for a way to upregulate them. [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration 9 days 80

Yes thats it, benzo medication does this , and is the cause of half the withdrawal symptoms in benzo wd, but it makes sense that this can happen due to stress, insomnia etc hence why people might end up on benzos. ... ... Its a piece of the af puzzle that i haven’t heard much talk about, it makes sense in my case [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by hawskfan9325 10 days 117

lmfao! [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration 10 days 112

heheh , dont we just love 155216 Pat? :) ... ... [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by hawskfan9325 10 days 112

As much as we love Reactive Hypoglycemia! [End]

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Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration 9 days 94

You are fully aware that you have been goading me for a long time, ever since Natway left, as you did the same with him. I imagine you enjoy it, hence you wanting a new target for to gain the attention when you get a reaction. If I really thought you where genuinely trying to help, it would of been appreciated, but your past ’help’ has always been under a shadow, so only you have yourself to blame for the ’7th grade reaction’ ... ... So I also imagine in the same way an imaginery god is to teach me humility, your arrogance keeps you here after ten years. ... ... Sleep well doll x [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by Ruffneck 9 days 86

dont bother replying, just report it as a bad message and let the moderators handle it [End]
- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration 9 days 82
  
  I wasnt that bothered to be honest, used to it from her, but seems someone has already put an alert on, cheers bud [End]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by amber1921 9 days 94

Hey, Mikey ... ... It’s a really informative link that you posted. I’ve been reading this all day yesterday - my information processing is too slow:) ... ... The theory of neuroinflammation being the cause of CFS is very interesting and plausible. It provides deeper understanding of the etiology of AF as well. Glutamate/GABA imbalance gives rise to generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, OCD and sets off the chain reaction down the HPA axis involving the multiple compensatory mechanisms that the body has developed to adapt to the constant signal of arousal. It’s like stress that goes on continuously on ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by Craig1129 9 days 84

That’s a very informative article. ... ... Would it be fair to summarize it all as saying this is a closer look at the physiology of being stuck in a freeze/fight or flight state? Would you guys be open to that possibility without currently understanding exactly how? ... ... The most important part: ... ... ”If such a vicious cycle of glutamate excitotoxicity, oxidative stress, and mitochondrial dysfunction does indeed underpin ME/CFS pathology, it may not be clear where exactly the root problem lies.” ... ... I’m sounding like a broken record, but at this point in time there is not a clear consensus among ... [retrieve this message]

What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance?

by amber1921 10 days 130 Adrenal Fatigue / Addison’s / CFS, ME, C / 4

Hair mineral analysis or a blood test? ... ... My insurance is based in another state so I’ll have to pay out of pocket for either of them. Really hate to do both... ... ... And how can you test aldosterone levels? [End]

Re: What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance? by SeattleK 10 days 116

I found hair to be much more useful. It told me a lot of things in addition to being fairly accurate in electrolytes, it really provides a wealth of information. Make sure to use either ARL or trace elements labs - because they don’t wash the hair. Lots more about this type of thing over in the adrenal fatigue forum. [End]

Re: What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance? by hawskfan9325 10 days 94

What’s your diastolic BP? Hair is meaningless IMHO. Take your BP lying sitting up on your bed. Take 3 readings in both arms. Average your diastolic and then tell me what that is. If you can’t do that, go to a local store that has a bp machine. [End]

Re: What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance? by amber1921 9 days 83

My diastolic BP is always staying within the 55-60 range. ... I did what you said and the winning number is ... 56 as of this morning;) [End]
- Re: What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance? by hawskfan9325 9 days 95
  
  I would suspect low aldosterone then. Obviously a lab test would be needed for confirmation. How is your heart-rate when you go from supine to prone? Does it jump a substantial amount? [End]
  - Re: What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance? by amber1921 8 days 67
    
    It goes up about 10 points ... From low 50-s to low 60-s which leads me to believe that I’m low not only on cortisol but norepinephrine as well... [End]

seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol??

by msr0459 10 days 73

I’m still trying to resolve my middle of the night high cortisol level. ... ... I recently did a saliva test. The results were in the normal parameters for the 4 tests during the day and night. However, I also tested once during the night, due to my middle of the night awakenings. ... ... On this particular night, my middle of night saliva test wound up being at 4:15am. The result was a 3.8 cortisol level. The night time range is 0.4-1.0, so my level is obviously pretty high at that time of the morning. ... ... Since the test results, I tried taking Seriphos when I woke up once around 2:30am, and my slee ... [retrieve this message]

Re: seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol?? by wiredgeneration 10 days 71

I am currently experimenting with Seriphos. ... ... It looks like your dosage is to low, and remember that it takes over a month to lower night time cortisol. ... ... I am taking 2 x 9am, 2 x 8pm, and 1 x at bedtime, I have noticed that my wake up time over the past month has shifted about 45 minutes to an hour most nights, so that is a good sign. I am also in the throws a brutal benzo withdrawal, so i imagine for a person not in benzohell, that once you have ht the right dosage it will be more effective. ... ... I have done A LOT of research into Seriphos before taking it, and some people needed to take ... [retrieve this message]

Re: seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol?? by msr0459 10 days 60

Before I had the saliva test done, I tried taking Seriphos before bed, around 10-10:30pm. I tried as much as 2, which for the Interplexus brand is 2000 mg’s. ... ... When I tried taking the product after awakening in the middle of the night, which was around 2:30am, I only took one,... and it kept me up literally the rest of the night. I can’t imagine taking more at that time. ... ... I read an excerpt from Julia Ross’s book, and she recommends taking around 10pm for early morning awakenings, or 4-5 hours before the noted high cortisol. ... ... Remember, I ONLY have a high reading at 4:15am. I’m consider ... [retrieve this message]

Re: seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol?? by SeattleK 10 days 62

Also, I notice it works much better when I take it before a meal like the directions the bottle say to. [End]

Re: seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol?? by msr0459 10 days 65

I haven’t tried taking before any meals. I do have to wonder if that would be prudent, due to the fact that my cortisol levels are all within normal levels for the 4 readings. It was only high on the 5th, middle of the night reading. ... ... I just trying to make sure I’m not ”chasing my tail”, so to speak. ... ... I’m still not even sure if a high cortisol reading at 4:15am is abnormal. I have read that the levels should be lowest form approximately 12 midnight till around 4am,.. so who knows. ... ... I mean, at what time of the morning does cortisol start to rise? Around 4am perhaps?,...in which case ... [retrieve this message]

Re: seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol?? by thelaughingdogs 9 days 47

Taurine and Relora worked for me. Relora only lasts for about 5 hours but Taurine has more of a delay for me around about 7 hours till it starts making me sleepy. It also takes a couple of days to kick in fully. It took about 3 days to built up in my system. [End]

Re: seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol?? by msr0459 8 days 30

I’ve never tried either of the supplements you mentioned. However, my problem doesn’t ”seem” to be anxiety related. I usually fall asleep no problem. And even on the occasional night that I’m only aware of waking up once during the night, I still feel totally exhausted the next day, as if I didn’t sleep at all. ... ... Logic would dictate that I’m simply not getting into a deep, recuperative sleep. Since my cortisol level showed high ONLY at 4:15am, this leads me to believe that perhaps high cortisol during sleep is what is causing my sleep disturbance. ... ... I had a sleep study done over a year a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol?? by thelaughingdogs 8 days 41

Some people have a reaction of stimulation to phosphatidylserine. It worked for two nights for sleepin when I had my huge insomnia problem. It was like a miracle. Then on the third night it was suddenly making me anxious and wide awake. [End]

Re: seriphos for 3-4am high cortisol?? by msr0459 3 days 13

I used the Interplexus brand of Seriphos, which has phosporylated serine, instead of phosphatidylserine. I wonder if the two are so different that one would react differently to each of them? ... ... Over the past week, I decided to get back to square one, and stop ALL supplements and see how I feel. Well, if it is at all possible, I actually have been sleeping worse! ... ... I mean, I’ve had terrible nights in the past,.. many in a row,... but I’ll always have a ”decent” nights sleep after a few days, which always gives me hope. ... ... Mind you, I haven’t woken up ”refreshed” in so long, I’ve forgotten ... [retrieve this message]

What symptoms do you get from salt wasting?

by amber1921 10 days 176 Adrenal Fatigue / CFS, ME, C / Salt / 4 / 5

I recently found out that it’s possible to get water retention when your sodium is low. It’s called euvolemic hyponatremia and it’s due to the secretion of a hormone called vasopressin or ADH (antidiuretic hormone). ... ... Last weekend I was getting puffy and bloated, so I thought I might be eating too much salt and stopped drinking water with sea salt every morning. After two or three days I got even more bloated and puffy everywhere, extremely tired, restless, slightly nauseous, started having pain in all the joints, muscles and bones (especially below the knee), got so confused and disorien ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by wiredgeneration 10 days 136

talk to Faith Amber, she cured herself of RSWS [End]

Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by saywhatagain 10 days 121

Just spoke to my ayurvedic doctor today, he said for me about 3/4 of a teaspoon a day of high quality natural salt is a good amount, don’t know if that would be different for other people. This is approximately what I have been eating anyway and I have never felt like I needed any more than this. [End]

Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by Marie64 10 days 147

Hi Amber, ... ... I had the same issue with the sodium loss. I would actually puff up more then I did when I used salt. I had major issues with sodium loss. I am diagnosed with Addison’s disease as well as the sodium loss. ... ... If you find your sea salt is not working you may want to try Hawaiian Bamboo Jade Sea Salt. I have been able to stabilize my sodium since ridding my body af aluminum. ... ... To test for aldesterone is through a blood test. But the best way I feel to check your cortisol level is a 24 hour saliva test. ... ... Here are the symptoms I had from mild to extreme...extreme was after ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by Craig1129 9 days 110

Marie I don’t know how much weight you put into what I say but I’m going to butt in and say I’ve felt for a long time reading your posts that you’ve been given a lot of bad advice. ... ... I don’t want this to seem like I’m minimizing what you’re going through, but I think it’s very likely you’ve never had Addison’s. If the person that diagnosed you with Addison’s is the same person that said all those symptoms are due to sodium loss (sodium loss is not a cause), I’d be very suspicious of seeing this person again. Just my (unsolicited) opinion.. [End]

Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by Craig1129 9 days 101

I didn’t really say what I meant to say. I think Addison’s disease is something that is going to be obsolete when doctor’s have a better understanding of what we are all going through. I think you are just like the rest of us. ... ... *I don’t know why I’m double posting instead of editing. I’ll blame the brain fog. [End]

Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by omo 9 days 107

Please note that your message is not in reply to amber192. You replied to saywhatagain’s message instead. ... ... Each message has its own reply link. [End]

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