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Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :)

by rainandsun 55 h 123

Hi Everyone! ... ... I am going to be starting an open-ended water fast at the beginning of next month. I am 22, female, and a mildly experienced faster, my longest being 12 days. I am aiming to do a minimum of 30 days, but would be able to go for longer if I felt happy/right, as I have substantial body fat! ... ... I have a huge opportunity coming up which is two months of peace, quiet and no commitments, providing the perfect opportunity to do a longer fast. I have a supporting long term partner who is living with me who will be supervising my fast for me, and preventing me from messing up the r ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by natway 55 h 106

Yes, watch this video about water fasting first by a leader in the raw food movement: ... ... Fasting can make you GAIN weight!!! ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2062219#i ... ... I then recommend you check out girls your age like this who was obese and has now lost over 100 pounds by finding out that the secret to healthy and sustained weightloss is by eating TONS of calories on a high-carb/low-fat diet: ... ... http://www.30bananasaday.com/profiles/blog/list?user=3q5lpv7g4jp5b [End]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by stellalittlehat 53 h 87

why on earth are you on a fasting site if you only have negative feedback about fasting? why? people gain weight after fasts, after diets, what you state is not a given! ... are you promoting something? it’s the only logical explanation? seriously though...why???? [End]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by natway 53 h 94

Why? Watching that video would have answered it for you. Fasting can have benefits for certain health conditions, but fasting for weightloss can be a misguided attempt and can cause people to not only put on the weight they lost, but gain extra from putting their bodies through long periods of starvation. ... ... I wanted to let this young girl know that fasting might not be the best route for her, especially since she seems to have done quite of bit of fasting in the past and it doesn’t seem to be working well for her health goals. ... ... Fasting is also a gateway into eating disorders for so ma ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by rainandsun 52 h 76

Hi, I think you misunderstood my post. As I said, I have had some experience with fasting I have never said anything about it not working for me, so I am confused at your comment that it ’doesnt seem to be working well for my health goals’. The reason I have mentioned that I have fasted before is because I do not want people to think I am going into a long fast blind without any knowledge of the process and that I am trying to be as prepared for it as I can. ... ... Although I have said I am aiming to lose weight with this, I also have stated that I want to heal my body and mind. Also, I have ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by natway 50 h 72

It’s good that you plan to go high-carb/high-calorie afterward. The links I provided are right up your alley then. ... ... Why I like asking questions and offering different advice is because it usually leads to answers. You’re saying your problem has been resorting back to binge eating, but the problem is not that you’re binge eating, it’s you’re binge eating on the wrong foods! You say you’re addicted to sugar and I say good! All humans are supposed to be addicted to sugar! All the trillions of cells in our bodies and brains are meant to be fueled by sugar and sugar specifically from car ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by #159682 50 h 72

30 bananas a day is a great site, but the prevailing viewpoint is very anti-fasting. I find that odd, and a bit frustrating. Water fasting is a great way of regaining and maintaining health when used well. ... ... I think it would be wrong to comment on the personal experiences of fasting by the people you mentioned. Suffice to say, the impression I get is that they did not adhere to the basic rules of fasting. In the video you posted, one of them says that she was drinking urine on her fast. I’d personally say that that is both inadvisable and unpleasant! There’s also a previous post from Fre ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by natway 48 h 75

They certainly weren’t doing fasting for the right reasons and since they both were coming from eating disorder backgrounds, I think that’s why they tend to be more anti-fasting to try not to promote quick fixes that end up backfiring more than not in the end. I especially don’t think fasting is very good for people who feel they are binge eaters as example by what happened to Freelee in that quote you posted. ... ... It seems a lot of people here are repeatedly doing fasts and for extreme lengths of time to mainly try to lose weight and I just wanted to make sure the TS gets all sides of ad ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by #159682 37 h 68

I understand where you’re coming from, and I agree that this is an excellent diet. However I’m not sure how appropriate it is to give dietary advice, and advise against fasting on a water fasting forum, in response to a request for water fasting advice. It’s not helpful, though I do understand that you are putting this information across for the best possible reasons. I think it’s no different to say, a carnivore coming onto the 30 bananas website and trying to change people’s minds towards adding meat and fish to their diet. They might think they are doing a useful thing, but it’s not rel ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by stellalittlehat 36 h 52

I agree with you...I watched her or his videos though and I understood why they do the fasting bashing...I only hope people do their homework before they listen to anyone with medicine for dummies ”knowledge”... [End]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by natway 30 h 45

This was kind of my point. I was just giving warning to those who are either fasting for the wrong reasons, such as quick fix weightloss like so many with eating disorders do, or those who are unable to do fasts properly that cause them to keep trying fasts again again, especially when there are other alternatives instead of fasting to reach their health goals, like the alternatives I provided. ... ... It’s not bashing fasting, it’s making sure fasting is not only appropriate for the person’s goals, but doable in a healthy way by those contemplating trying it. Otherwise, like you say, they wil ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by rainandsun 26 h 44

Hi! I apologise in advance for this long post! Thankyou for your comments and information, its great to hear more about fasting potentially really helping binge-eating :) ... ... However, natway, a lot of what you have said is scientifically incorrect and although this is deviating even further from the point of my original post I feel I should explain some aspects.... ... ... Binge-eating isn’t as simple as what foods you are eating, it is a psychological desire, or demand to stuff yourself with food, usually food that is ’bad’ or ’naughty’, something that you shouldn’t do. Any one can binge, but ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by natway 22 h 33

Sorry if I misread or was being a little too cautious about your upcoming fast. I was kinda responding to all here to be sure people aren’t attempting fasts for too long or the wrong reasons. Hopefully you’ll be successful in reaching your goals and hopefully some of the info I provided will be useful to you in the future. Good luck! [End]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by #159682 49 h 65

Hi rainandsun, ... I’m not sure what advice I could give you, you sound like you know what you’re doing. I hope you get everything you wish for from this fast :) ... ... Oh, and yes, it’s a great way to detox smoking and drug poisons, I’ve done it myself. ... ... ... [End]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by rainandsun 26 h 35

Thankyou :) :) x [End]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by rainy3 48 h 75

Hi rainandsun, ... ... I see by your post that you also want to fast for spiritual reasons. Good for you. It is very powerful combined with prayer. If this is what you want to do the enemy will come against you to try to stop you. He is very afraid of what you will accomplish in the spiritual realm. I have received answers to prayer by fasting (one being very major) as well as some other minor breakthroughs. I still have a long way to go so I am still working on it. I know the Lord has something very good and powerful waiting for me on the other end of obeying Him completely in regards to fast ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Open-ended water fast, starting 1st July, any advice appreciated :) by alohafasting 3 h 11

Aloha, ... ... Fasting is always tough! I successfully completed a 30 day fast and numerous intermittent fasts. ... ... The plan for reintroducing food is crucial. My plan was: ... ... 1. small fruit twice a day for 3 days ... ... 2. raw salads for two more days ... ... 3. Then slowly introduce other foods mostly raw ... ... Good luck on the fasting! Hope this helps... I started blogging on the subject at ”danielbatty.com” [End]

?anyone in the GTA? toronto area by rawrnr 65 h 24

looking for a fasting buddy I can text.. and maybe meet up with in the TORONTO area... ... [End]

Still hungry on fast

by #173007 3 days 65

I’m on day 7 of my water fast and I’m STILL hungry. I need help. I wanted to fast for a while longer but what the heck. Anyone have any tips?! Please please please help! [End]

Re: Still hungry on fast by natway 71 h 68

Well you’re supposed to get hungry when your body isn’t getting enough food. What are your reasons for wanting to fast for so long? [End]
- Re: Still hungry on fast by Kadima 69 h 52
  
  And is it your first time? ... ... Urine fast is better. [End]

Re: Still hungry on fast by #159682 49 h 26

I know how this feels, to still be hungry on day 7, so you have my sympathy. ... A tip that is often given on this forum is to drink warmed water. I haven’t tried this yet, but I will next time. ... I don’t know what else to suggest. Distraction- books, films etc, and steeling yourself with resolve! But then I’m sure you know that already. Good luck. [End]

Breaking the Fast when True Hunger Returns

by #173004 3 days 52

Hi, I am currently on day 16 of an extended fast, drinking only distilled water, and will be fasting to completion (until the return of true hunger). ... ... This site has been an invaluable resource of information for me throughout the fast so first of all I would like to thank everyone (in particular ChrisB, who always provides extremely helpful, detailed responses). ... ... My specific question is about breaking the fast once true hunger returns. I remember reading somewhere that, with true hunger, the body is basically ready for digestion, unlike when the fast is broken after some arbitrary numb ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Breaking the Fast when True Hunger Returns by applecore 49 h 28

I can give you my thoughts. I haven’t fasted to completion, but I have done a couple of long fasts. ... ... Shelton recommends juice to break a fast, and I think this is a good way to do it. My own opinion, which is backed by Dr V. Vetrano, a student of Sheltons if I recall correctly, is that whole fruit is better, is the ideal way to break a fast. I have seen Shelton in print saying that he agreed with his student that this was an excellent way to break a fast- I’m not sure if he still preferred juice to whole fruit or changed his mind. ... ... The reason I believe fruit is better- the body needs ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Breaking the Fast when True Hunger Returns by #173004 20 h 22

Thanks the reply, that link was helpful and only strengthened my resolve to carry on the fast until true hunger manifests itself. ... ... More thoughts on the original post would be appreciated, although I have another question: what is the ideal amount of water to be drinking? Right now I am drinking about one liter of vapor distilled water per day; I read that too much water (for example two liters) can overload the kidneys and hinder the detox process but I also don’t want to be drinking too little since I want to keep hydrated and know a large part of detoxing is through urine. The most amo ... [retrieve this message]

UPDATE: DESPERATELY need help--did not prepare for fast

by #172636 5 days 88

now feel better I wanted to check in and update my post http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2072324 ... ... ... Thank you for the reassuring responses, they helped me keep it together. To those that felt the post title was dramatic i will pay attention to that in future. That said, the night i wrote the post my detox symptoms were so severe, the next morning, i woke up with lips full of fever blisters ... ... My detox was consistently bad, yet I held on. On Day 7, I realized that ... -my body was probably the most toxic it’s ever been and here it was trying to cope with a 40 day water only fast with ab ... [retrieve this message]

Re: UPDATE: DESPERATELY need help--did not prepare for fast by Kadima 69 h 27

100% correct! ... ... How do you get prepared for the fast? What are your goals? [End]

Broke my 16 day WF

by YoungAndBeautiful 5 days 99

I’ve had a very rough past few days..I got my period on day 7 and it’s been fairly light until day 13 it got very heavy and I felt weaker all of a sudden.I had a very important meeting to attend and a few days prior to that I was vomitting for 2 days. I broke my fast with lettuce ( didn’t have anything on hand for me to juice ) and the morning of my meeting I had about three chunks of fresh watermelon. Thank God I did because it was such a longgg and eventful day. I probably wouldn’t have lasted lol So later on I had a small raw salad consisting of arugula baby spinach beets and tomatoes. ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Broke my 16 day WF by YoungAndBeautiful 4 days 61

UPDATE : I had prune juice last night and it did the trick. I’m back on fasting today and experiencing nausea. Very hard to endure while at work..it’s hard to speak with others because I find if I talk, it brings on the nausea even more. [End]

Re: Broke my 16 day WF by YoungAndBeautiful 50 h 28

Update : I’m still fasting and taking it one day at a time. My eyes are burning me today but no redness. Thick coating in mouth/on tongue..I’m taking it one day at a time. I’m aiming for 10 days making that a total of 26 days. Also another note, I’m still menstruating. It started about a week into my fast and was fairly light ’barely there’ but the past few days, extremely heavy flow. I’m sticking to this because I’d like to reset my whole endocrine system. I’m taking this one day at a time like I said but will continuously listen to my body. [End]

Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please!

by cravenous 5 days 146

I will really truly appreciate a relatively quick response to this. I am quite desperate right now. I’ll give you some background first, just to be thorough: I’ve been dealing with a relatively serious systemic candida problem coupled with adrenal fatigue, hormonal imbalances, leaky gut, and various skin issues. (All confirmed by my naturopathic doctor) I am 23 years old. I have been vegan for 6 months and am often 80%-100% raw, and before that I was vegetarian for a year. Before I changed my eating habits though, I did consume an extremely horrendous diet (tons of aspartame, fast food, no ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by natway 5 days 112

According to your states, your BMI says you’re underweight, so no wonder you are having a ravenous appetite and getting easily winded, your most likely malnourished from previously under-eating and your body wants FOOD! Under-eating is extremely common on vegetarian diets done mostly to lose weight. ... ... Stop starving yourself to try to lose weight. You’ll just gain it all back plus some in the end. Fasts can slow your metabolism making it easier for your body to gain weight. ... ... You want to eat your way thin naturally, not starve yourself. Look up Freelee on youtube who’s super lean and ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by cravenous 5 days 100

LOL - I’m definitely not doing this to lose weight AT ALL. Did you even read my story? Also, I was eating 3000-4000 calories a day prior to the most for almost 6 months straight, and mostly all raw plant based foods. :) Thanks though. Like I said, I still have a lot of fatty tissue and still in ketosis. I’m aware of my BMI. [End]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by cravenous 5 days 91

Oh, and I eat just like freelee frugivore - I am 80/10/10 high raw vegan. ;) [End]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by natway 5 days 96

Great! ... ... All those conditions you stated, I personally believe they are all caused by being malnorished (see my thread in the Candida debate section). ... ... Are you using cronometer or other app to make sure you’re getting the amount of calories you think you are? ... ... Have you checked if you’re low in B12 or not? [End]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by cravenous 5 days 101

I use cronometer, yes. I meet all the requirements everyday, I’m a little obsessive with that, haha. Also, because of my physical condition, I go to the doctor once a week and I have a urinalysis once a month, if not more - my vitamin and mineral levels are all good except calcium, which was being chewed up by my adrenals since they are almost non-functioning. I am being partially supervised while I fast, as well. I do know what I’m doing as far as my diet goes, thankfully. (Took me long enough to figure it out lol) I do wish it was that simple though. ... ... I will check out your thread! [End]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by natway 5 days 108

I’d ask your Doc to double check you for low B12 and take injections if you’re under 500. Don’t waste your time with oral B12. Everything else about your diet you seem to be doing fine. ... ... Where you exercising a lot before you started your fast? If yes, then maybe boost your calories up even more. If not, I’d ask at 30bananas forum or Dr. Graham directly: ... ... http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/index.html ... ... ... I’ll be curious how you feel tomorrow. Take care and try not to be too anxious about it! [End]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by cravenous 5 days 90

I will! I actually go see him again Monday. He always said my B vitamins all looked really good, but I never saw the numbers. I’ll ask him for the exact number. I have heard good things about the b12 injections, and wanted to try them instead of taking the supplement I was taking before. ... ... Thank you so much! I’ll update how tomorrow goes. All the best! ... ... Edit: No, I didn’t exercise much at all due to chronic fatigue, which is why I have so little muscle mass and my BMI is so low, my adrenals really were thrashed. :( I was trying everything, going super high carb (I tried 6000 cals! Lol ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by natway 5 days 79

Demand you see the numbers, or find a new practitioner. I trust Naturopaths the least, personally. They seem to just want to sell you supplements and make up fake diseases. ... ... If you have chronic fatigue, I personally don’t recommend any type of calorie-restricting, such as fasts. Fatigue is low energy and common sense says in order to combat low energy you need to get more energy by eating more to get more fuel for energy obviously. I do understand if you think you have a health condition that might need to be healed by a fast in order to then digest and metabolize food properly to get mo ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by cravenous 5 days 103

After doing some digging around, I’ve decided to continue with my fast at least another day, and just take it one day at a time, as defeating as this fast has been, it’s just a testament to how sick I was. What did I expect? I was SO close to being put on disability. My solution right now: I’ll be using enemas. I didn’t want to, but it seems my toxic load is just too much. ... ... I cannot wait to start rebuilding my new clean body and have, essentially, a rebirth. This forum has motivated me. I still have questions, but I understand every body is unique, and each person will have a unique fas ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by ggxx 5 days 77

There are quite a few fasters who advocate enemas. I am one. If a person can do without, OK, but sometimes they are necessary. I have never fasted while being thin enough to have to consider it a factor, but if it does end up that water-fasting is too much for your body right now, consider doing green juices - lots of anti-inflammatory, cleansing stuff in green juices, lots of good nutrients, too - your body should be able to cleanse and repair on green juice, too. Hang in there, and all the best! [End]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by ggxx 5 days 75

This: http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=265173 ... ... Another reason why juicing may be better for you at this stage [End]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by ggxx 5 days 79

This: http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=265173 ... ... Another reason why juicing may be better for you at this stage - not that you didn’t prepare but that if you have too much ”crap” to deal with, it may be more efficient to deal with it slower. [End]

Re: Questions About My Current Grueling Water Fast! Help Please! by purplepixie 5 days 83

Fasting on just water while your adrenals are depleted isn’t generally recommended. I tried it and went through the hell you’re describing. ... Detox pathways need to be working well and they don’t necessarily open up just because we stop taking in food. If you have a detox issue (like a slow phase 1 or 2 liver pathway) or perhaps a deeper physiological detox error genetically like mutations in your methylation pathways, then fasting will stir-up toxins but they won’t get eliminated as they should , and do, in most fasting people who talk of a ’high’ after so many days. ... No amount of fasting ... [retrieve this message]

Day 1 of 40 by NayB 6 days 71

So time to start fresh ... I weigh 187.6 day 1 and I’m a 15 year old 5’5 female ... I have done short fasts before up to 3- 7 days [End]
- Re: Day 1 of 40 by Rachels0918 66 h 22
  
  I’m starting today I weigh 438 am 5’7” and I have also done fast in in the past. [End]

Water Fasting side effects

by Thisisme 8 days 129

Hey guys, I just recently came across this website and I’m really glad to see that so many people are actually into water fasting since I tend to get weird looks when I mention that I water fast from time to time. ... Anyways I am on Awaterfast right now and I’m on day 10 and mentally I’m doing quite well, I just have a lack of energy but that’s normal I guess. However physically I seem to experience some weird kind of side effects that bother me a little bit. I have done some research on this one and I haven’t come across anybody else who has this. I get red itchy spots almost all over my b ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Water Fasting side effects by chirontherainbowbridge 7 days 95

itchy skin is directly liver-related. And since the liver and the kidneys do a lot of work on a water fast, what can’t go ’down and out’, (because food is not ’pushing out’ eliminations, or supressing ’symptoms’, the way, say, eating certain things will distract and busy the immune system), and what doesn’t get burned up through autolysis ... fast enough, then tends to go out the skin. ... ... Everyone is different, in the way their bodies deal with toxins, and how the system determines what is important when it comes to the housecleaning order-of-operations in a water fast . . . ... ... When you are n ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Water Fasting side effects by Kadima 69 h 21

Yes, it’s correct about the liver being toxic. It can also be Candida. ... ... I personally use therapeutic grade essential oils for effective healing. ... ... And I prefer urine fast. ... ... However, I discovered that I could not fast at home, where I have to feed everyone, or even if not, still be around food. ... ... [End]

Oddly Relevant by chirontherainbowbridge 8 days 45

hi everyone, i don’t mean to be alarmist, (since people do still become alarmed over the mention of *cancer),but a lot of us here have either been brought to water fasting over concerns of declining health, (ours or a family member’s), or may intuit (or have been actually diagnosed with) something more serious than a less-than-par vitality. ... ... There’s a lot of good info on this page about diet, (and the site itself can be helpful.)Some of it you may want to consider the info., as part of your re-feeding study/overview. ... ... Also, you may simply know someone who could benefit. ... ... http://www. ... [retrieve this message]

Day 2 Water fast Problems help!!

by NayB 8 days 99

I been fasting for 2 days ... My stomach is burning heart is hurting chest is tight i can’t breathe ... A little bit of vomit and acid is keeping coming up my throat......, I’m doing a 42 day... And muscle chest pain ..., my breath stinks.., dizzy EYES .., what are the other symptoms..., and how much would I lose ... [End]

Re: Day 2 Water fast Problems help!! by joyinmyspirit 7 days 61

Trying to do 42 day fast for your first fast is stupid. Please read this: ... ... If you try fasting without eating a healthy organic diet and getting good exercise, ahead of time, and after, you are doing more harm than good. You also need to research detox symptoms and get to know your body better. If you are having chest pain, vomiting, and difficulty breathing... you need to stop immediately. Unfortunately a lot of times in life, there are no shortcuts. To lose weight you will have to make lifestyle changes... eating better, sleeping more, exercising regularly...and doing research about the ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Day 2 Water fast Problems help!! by joyinmyspirit 7 days 51

Your detox symptoms are not uncommon.. but that you are having extreme symptoms your first two days in means that your body needs some healthy change and not just a big overnight fast. I’ve done fasting off of a regular diet...and fasting while on a raw vegan diet. Fasting from a healthy vegan diet gave little to so detox symptoms... ... ... Also that you are going for 42 days is a huge red flag that you are going about this completely the wrong way. You shouldn’t set a time for your first time... gradual improvement is the way to go..and what we should be working on here... go for 2 days... 4 ... [retrieve this message]

When does ketosis stop after breaking a WF?

by YoungAndBeautiful 9 days 69

The reason why I ask is because during my past several WF’s, I would ease into eating again and I do it very slowly. I noticed during the first few days of re-feeding, I don’t feel hungry at all and it feels as though I’m still fasting. I dilute freshly squeezed juices and water. I’m currently on day 13 of my WF and not sure when I’ll break, I have a trip coming up and wanted to break my fast a week before but don’t want to suffer the effects of re-feeding and getting sick when I’m not in the comfort of my own home. Thanks in advance [End]

Re: When does ketosis stop after breaking a WF? by Keto4Life 7 h 11

As soon as you start eating carbs again. ... If you want your body to remain in a ketogenic state then you could switch to a Keto or Paleo lifestyle. ... ... [End]

Am I Dying? - Update and More issues

by dee101 10 days 169

Hi Everyone, ... ... I am sort of freaking out here... but I am going to try to be calm. ... ... I did a 7 day water fast 2 weeks ago, and ever since then its just been one problem to the next. ... ... I would love for someone to reassure me that everything is fine or at least give a guess as to what exactly I did wrong or what I can do at this point. ... ... 1: FREAKED ME OUT! ... ... On the last day of my water fast (DAY 7) I had my period. It came a bit earlier than expected (3 days). Its started with some WICKED painful contractions in the wall that separate the vagina and the rectum. I normally have a few of ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Am I Dying? - Update and More issues by chirontherainbowbridge 7 days 79

I haven’t been to a doctor in almost 13 years, so you won’t hear me suggesting it (in a knee-jerk way.) I feel you must have come to your own conclusion by now that you are/were simply cleansing, and there are levels and levels to this. I doubt you are dying. I recommend learning EFT--if I didn’t already mention this. But what about incorporating into your diet a glass of water with Diatomaceous earth, daily. ... ... Look into it, see what you feel about it. You might find it addresses many of your issues. ... ... ... C [End]

Re: Am I Dying? - Update and More issues by dee101 7 days 54

So you are saying my edema is caused by bugs? [End]

Re: Am I Dying? - Update and More issues by natway 7 days 72

Sounds like you haven’t been getting enough calories for awhile. At least 2,500 calories for women who want to be active is what’s recommended. ... ... I’m near-vegan and eating high-carb/low-fat and making sure I get at least my minimum recommended calories a day to be active and that’s what’s helped me more than anything. Check out Freelee on youtube. She does it right. [End]

Starting water fast on Monday - Anyone want to join?

by #167861 11 days 136

Would be nice to have some support with someone doing a water fast at the same time. I plan to start on Monday - for at least 10 days. Let me know if you are fasting or planning to start one and want to keep in touch via email. ... ... Cheers! [End]

Re: Starting water fast on Monday - Anyone want to join? by joyinmyspirit 9 days 58

I’m starting back up today as well... did 15 days last time... no idea how many days I’ll go this time around.... it was very intense last time with all the close calls of crashing my car and passing out...and the struggle to move [End]

Re: Starting water fast on Monday - Anyone want to join? by spiritualclarity 8 days 39

Hey sorry for checking this late. You can contact me via email [End]

Re: Starting water fast on Monday - Anyone want to join? by 02261982 8 days 37

I am little late, wednesday will be my start day! how is your going so far? [End]

Re: Starting water fast on Monday - Anyone want to join? by joyinmyspirit 7 days 30

hey guys i’m on day 3. ... ... hoping to get some clearing of psoriasis...this fast i am setting an intention to focus on getting good sleep, minimizing stress, trying some new things over my last fast. namely... not taking as many super hot baths (risk of passing out), working less hours (went on leave of absence from one of my jobs), and a few other minor tweaks. ... ... how are you guys doing? ... ... i’m starting to get that clear headed feeling already.. for example yesterday i organized some things around my apartment that i hadn’t got around to for a long time. i will be happy tomorrow... it seem ... [retrieve this message]

Questions for the more informed than me

by thedean123 12 days 155

About a month ago I decided to do intermittent fasting, no eating during the week and eating on the weekends. ... ... I’ve done a 30 day fast in the past but that’s not an option at this point in my life as I have a 3 and 1 year old now. ... ... So my question is I feel like I could do this for a long time easily, however is it safe? [End]

Re: Questions for the more informed than me by chirontherainbowbridge 12 days 130

Hi, having done a 29 day and a 21 day water fast, and some shorter ones, such ’extreme’ ideas are more comprehensible than they would have once been: and I currently (usually) eat only one meal a day, so effectively, am fasting 18-20 out of every 24 hours or so. That is do-able, enjoyable -i like to feel unencumbered- but it could also just as easily be, or lead to, a form of malnourishment. I’m pretty careful that my food ’be my medicine’, so for now, it’s working. ... ... It IS possible for people to NOT eat anything, extendedly, and thrive, but such situations are rare; you see what I mean. ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Questions for the more informed than me by thedean123 12 days 126

On the weekends I eat fruits and veggies and eggs. ... ... Not an eating disorder in the slightest. Im not at all worried about my weight I’ve fasted in the past because I find it mellows my allergies during the spring and I just overall feel better after a fast. ... ... But the concerns you brought up are essentailly the concerns I have. [End]

less is more, IF it's good quality and the body is unclogged by chirontherainbowbridge 8 days 44

so, why not try the method you’re thinking of, for a month? ... or 28 days, one moon cycle. That sounds like a good experiment/plan. I think if I were to try it, I’d be sure to get very nutrient-dense on the weekend. Like kelp on my guacamole, etc. Sprouts in my salad. . . Nutmilk for my smoothie made of soaked almonds . . . Lots of green smoothie-or-live-soup kind of stuff with lots of greens. Or maybe even, one weeked, just do mono-meals of whatever fruit is best and most appealing. . . that could be very fruitful. :-) ... ... Do let us know how it goes! Are you also trying to heal anything in p ... [retrieve this message]

DESPERATELY need help --did not prepare for fast

by #172636 13 days 196

I’m on day 5, the first three days were a breeze then day 4 was tough. ... ... It was rough day of a foul mouth plus drinking lots of water to help bring up the bile ( this really eases the discomfort). I have a lot of willpower, whilst I never enjoy the discomfort of a fast, I embrace it knowing that my body is healing. Previously, I’ve done several extended water only fasts, but had not done one in the last 2-3 years and ate unhealthy, then I had a sudden urge to fast the urge was so strong I started cold turkey so when I experienced harsh symptoms I was very accepting that all the toxic was ... [retrieve this message]

Re: DESPERATELY need help --did not prepare for fast by burge 13 days 148

I read that post differently than you did. It was not just about eating Vegetarian for the weeks leading up to the fast, it was a message of lifestyle. ... ... And since bad breath, coated tongue, working organs are part of every fast, i think it was just a mindset post. ... ... I finished up 31.5 days yesterday, and I was physically weak alot of the time...it does not help I do not drive in this country, so I walk everywhere...and work 5 or 6 days a week, but that’s life. I made it without any MAJOR problems. ... ... but in the end, it’s all up to you. [End]

Re: DESPERATELY need help --did not prepare for fast by chirontherainbowbridge 8 days 51

... ... Burge said: ... ... ”I read that post differently than you did. It was not just about eating Vegetarian for the weeks leading up to the fast, it was a message of lifestyle.” ... ... ... yes, I agree. And would add again, in case anyone reads this message, who wonders why their own posts aren’t answered-- ... Please look into/learn EFT. It gives you a REAL tool of your own to use to manage the ups and downs of water fasting. All of it can all be dealt with MUCH BETTER if it’s experienced within a larger context of just watching, with some level of calm and detatchment; thereby being more of a witness ... [retrieve this message]

Re: DESPERATE?? I don't see it. *And why hot water is good by chirontherainbowbridge 13 days 121

1. I don’t see that you desperately need help. 2. I don’t see that you are in any actual trouble. 3. Your fast will not be useless. Never could happen. 4. Better than reading horror stories from people who did not ’prepare properly’(please see dislaimer below), why not just move out of that space, which is already the past, and over, by focusssing on benefits now and how you will eat and think after the fast? You can practise now, and be in a much better state, which will certainly affect how you feel. The fast is 8/10 mental, and the rest is us graciously getting out of the way of what pe ... [retrieve this message]

Re: DESPERATELY need help --did not prepare for fast by chirontherainbowbridge 13 days 123

I really can’t emphasize enough, that EFT is just the thing for someone who seems prone to over-reacting, or at the least, is very susceptible to taking things in a dramatic fashion. really can’t emphasize enough, that EFT is just the thing for someone who seems prone to over-reacting, or at the least, is very susceptible to taking things in a dramatic fashion. And, hey--that could be a huge plus, turned to your advantage in so-called real life, but everything *on a water fast* tends to be underlined and emphasized. For better or worse. That’s whay it’s so important to build a little f ... [retrieve this message]

I Feel Super Stressed on a Water Fast!

by Aegisdivine 14 days 150

I’m very toxic so I decided it’s time I should go on 20 day water fast. I’m on my 2nd day and it feels so unnatural & so much discomfort I can’t even begin to decribe it. ... ... If I can go out for a walk or in the mall it might be easier because staying inside my ghetto apartment makes the fast seem even harder. But my skin looks horrible so I’ve to stay indoors. ... ... What should I do? Should I just break the fast and perhaps start a easier routine or is all this discomfort gonna go away soon? ... ... I don’t really wanna go on a change to a juice fast since I heard they’re less effective & takes lo ... [retrieve this message]

Re: I Feel Super Stressed on a Water Fast! by rainy3 14 days 84

Hi Aegisdivine, ... ... I’m sorry you are going through so much stress. I sent you a PM so please check your inbox. Keep fighting and never give up. You will win that way. :) ... ... [End]

Re: I Feel Super Stressed on a Water Fast! by joyinmyspirit 9 days 50

what are you doing to relax? ... ... the first 4 days are rough because toxins are leaving your body. i can attest to this as having done fasts where i was eating crap and mistreating my body I had lots of sickness the first few days, the fasts where I had been eating raw vegan for months I has zero detox symptoms. drastic difference. ... ... why is your skin messed up? acne or a skin condition or something? what feels and doesn’t feel unnatural is not necessarily telling you waht is good for your body. using drugs for example feels very good, but most people would agree that it is ”unnatural for ... [retrieve this message]

Please,help,should I continue or should I go on?

by touxoukouki 15 days 107

I’ve been on a water fast for 9 days now,I had been expecting to lose weight but however I have only dropped about 13.2 pounds and since 2 days ago my body just won’t lose anymore! I have been drinking my water, and doing my yoga, and I’m not feeling any hungry,but I’m pretty much desperate,should I break the fast and just go on a normal diet or should I continue? If I continue how many pounds will I lose? I started at 143 pounds and now I’m 130, and I’m 5”2 . [End]

Re: Please,help,should I continue or should I go on? by burge 15 days 86

What are your goals? Just to lose weight? With the yoga, you could be strengthening muscles, and muscles are heavier than fat. Does your body look/feel different? Do your clothes feel different on your body? This past week, I have barely lost any weight, but I stopped caring. It is about change...changing your mind and your habits. ... ... Had you quit after 3 days, you would probably have rebounded all the way and started a diet that would have failed. However, you hung in for 9 days, which is AWESOME! You have changed your habits already. ... ... If you want to quit, go ahead. Re-feed sl ... [retrieve this message]

Day 30, gonna wrap it up soon...

by burge 16 days 205

Well, it was a tough ride. I have dry heaved from merely my own saliva multiple times EVERY day this past 7 or 8 days. Water disgusts me, and I almost blacked out on the train twice. ... ... No regrets! I am lighter than I have been since college. I have been very introspective this past week. Last Thursday, I noticed that I no longer have a sweet tooth. Nothing I saw at the cake shops interested me in the least. ... ... Now, I would kill for a steak sandwich, but actually, were I to eat it today, it would kill me. ... ... I imagine I will do short water fasts in the future, but not longer than 10 ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Day 30, gonna wrap it up soon... by Mirah32 16 days 134

I am curious how much weight did you lose in this fast ? ... ... [End]
- Re: Day 30, gonna wrap it up soon... by burge 16 days 134
  
  A bit over 20kg...like 45 pounds. And I have some loose skin all over to prove it...except the face, for whatever reason. [End]

Bloating dependent purely on volume of food/drink

by problemS 16 days 59

Hi guys, ... ... I have had this problem for a year and a half now. I get a distended abdomen every time I eat or drink anything. That contents of the food/drink don’t matter it is purely volume. I can say this as I have tried various elimination diets, etc and the bloating happen when just drinking any type of water. ... ... Any idea what could cause my abdomen to extend so much from small amounts of food? Any medical condition? Any tips? ... ... The distension is specifically in the middle left of the abdomen. I also have various other problems that I think are caused by this such as really bad letharg ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Bloating dependent purely on volume of food/drink by chirontherainbowbridge 8 days 24

regular BMs. ... ... Your food should be ”clean” too -- nothing processed. Work toward that. Best would be raw, living, plant-based. (fruit and veg. soaked nuts and seeds. Lots of green leafy . . . etc.) ... ... ... best wishes, Chiron ... ... [End]

Cracking your joints during a water fast ?

by Mirah32 16 days 82

Hello, ... ... I am starting a water fast and I have a habit of cracking all my joints (back, neck, knucles, everything) every hour or so. ... ... I was wondering is this a bad thing ? Will it somehow affect my water fast ? [End]

Re: Cracking your joints during a water fast ? by burge 16 days 73

I hadn’t really cracked my knuckles since I was a kid...now, crack them all the time. My jaw also cracked a couple of times...but that is an old injury. [End]

good resource for checking out best foods to eat; re-feeding, and genera...

by chirontherainbowbridge 17 days 93

... The site is World’s Healthiest foods--a very good place to see the value of any fruit or vegetable. This can really inspire you to eat more living foods, which are the ideal ... way to eat. ... ... http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=5 ... ... Chiron ... [End]

Re: good resource for checking out best foods to eat; re-feeding, and ge... by burge 16 days 63

love avocados! ... ... next? [End]

Re: good resource for checking out best foods to eat; re-feeding, and ge... by chirontherainbowbridge 12 days 37

you can search/input any fruit/veg/nut/seed. . . . ... --avocados was what I was searching. They truly are fabulous; can be a soup base, dessert base, savoury, sweet, whatever. One of my favourite things is a salad of avocado, banana, mango, orange, lime and cilantro. Maybe some cayenne. ... ... ... :-) ... ... C. ... [End]

Can you fast with severe gallbladder bile sludge and elevated Alkaline P...

by #157583 17 days 89

Is it OK to fast in order to heal a gallbladder with severe bile sludge and elevated Alkaline Phosphatase liver enzymes, or is this dangerous? We want to start a good 7 day fast in 2 weeks to heal this condition, but we don’t know if fasting is contraindicated in this situation? Liver is fine on ultrasound, just have some inflammation (Vacuolar Hepatopathy due to steroids) and gallbladder is distended due to bile sludge. ... ... Any ideas? ... ... Thanks! [End]

Re: Can you fast with severe gallbladder bile sludge and elevated Alkali... by chirontherainbowbridge 17 days 92

I would do some liver flushing; do one after a few days of heavy apple eating, mostly light raw fruit and veg. and ACV in water. ( malic acid to break down stones and thin sludge) Then do water fasting, after. Would probably also do a salt water flush, first thing on the first day of the water fast. ... ... ... Chiron ... ... [End]

Re: Can you fast with severe gallbladder bile sludge and elevated Alkali... by burge 16 days 68

I’d talk to my doctor. [End]

who wants to fast with me?

by wacia 18 days 113

starting water fast tomorrow but am needing some support :) [End]

Re: who wants to fast with me? by NayB 17 days 90

Hey I do ..... & I started mine today :... :). I’m hoping to do 50-60 days :) [End]

Re: who wants to fast with me? by #167861 17 days 86

I will be starting at some point during this week. So you guys will be a few days ahead of me. But it will be great to do this together and build up a support system. ... ... I plan to fast until I feel good, clear.... superhuman :) Not decided the actual length. ... ... I will be posting daily progress here ... http://curezone.com/blogs/f.asp?f=3342 ... ... Cheers !!! [End]

Re: who wants to fast with me? by skinny4eva 16 days 65

I will fast with you how long do you plan on fasting, I want to do 21-30 days I will listen to my body [End]

Re: who wants to fast with me? by #167861 16 days 55

Thinking between 14 and 28 days. ... ... Definitely starting on Thursday no matter what. Weekends are too difficult for me. Got to star while at work on thursday. ... ... Let me know if this works for you. Any thoughts on how to keep in touch while fasting. [End]

hi okay im starting tomorrow by wacia 16 days 56

hi :) im starting tomorrow - wednesday. maybe email? or facebook? its good to have some support it think [End]

Re: hi okay im starting tomorrow by #167861 14 days 51

Hope day 1 is going great for you. ... ... Emailed you. Lets keep in touch that way. Facebook is not a good idea for me. A lot of people would be shocked with what I am doing and would discourage me on facebook. ... ... Cheers [End]

Re: who wants to fast with me? by wacia 17 days 72

hey :) cool, im fasting for 25 days! Im pretty nervous but hoping it goes well :) [End]
Re: who wants to fast with me? by skinny4eva 16 days 61

I will fast with you , how long do you plan on fasting. I want to do 21 -30 days. ... ... Good luck!!! [End]
- okay so im starting tomorrow for 24 days :) by wacia 16 days 63
  
  so when are you starting yours? im pretty nervous [End]
- cool lets do it together :) by wacia 16 days 64
  
  im starting tomorrow for 24 days :) here is my email jmk126@uclive.ac.nz [End]

Hair loss and water fasting

by #167861 18 days 154

I feel like I lost some hair after a water fast for 10 days. Hence I have decided to use hair oil for an hour or so daily on my head and also some aloe vera. This is because I live in a very hot and humid environment and my scalp needs protection from the sun. Please let me know if it would be wise to use these products. Would applying hair oil or aloe vera compromise the water fast and do more damage to my hair? Any insights would be helpful. [End]

Re: Hair loss and water fasting by mommytofour 18 days 153

Hair loss is another sign of detox. Often skin is the greatest place of toxin release. ... ... I find the lower you get your toxin levels in your body the better your hair will look, and often it will grow back fuller and without grays. ... ... If your scalp is one place your toxins like to release themselves there is very little you can do to prevent this. Your hair changes internally. ... ... I suggest you continue your water fast until you know you have eliminated most of your toxins in your body. Over time your new hair will grow back healthier. ... ... I find water fasting is a long journey, and it can ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Hair loss and water fasting by #167861 17 days 110

Thank you for the info. Never thought of haifall as detox for some reason.... just thought it was a side effect of water fasting. But your explanation makes sense. Will just let the fast run its course and expect good hair later :). [End]

Re: Hair loss and water fasting by Kcirla 17 days 125

In my experience, hair loss is very much related to candida overgrowth. ... ... So you have two possible causes for your hairloss: either it is detox related (candida die off), which could be very much possible as fasting is always beneficial for fighting pathogens, either it is the fasting that induced an increase in candida, which is possible too if the fast was not broken properly. ... ... Fasting rests the body but also stresses the elimination organs at the same time due to the increased release of toxins. If you fasted and stressed your organs , and didn’t break the fast properly, you could ha ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Hair loss and water fasting - Breaking fast to kill the candida by #167861 17 days 98

Yes I had a candida issue that occured after a 40 day master cleanse. Obviously I was high on sugar because I used grade b maple syrup with Cayenne and lemon/lime during the cleanse. I broke that fast with fruit juices and thats when I learned what candida is... had an itch through out my body and it was awful. Since then I have not experienced many symptoms but I though my 10 day water fast would have starved the candida. ... ... Anyway, my question now is that how would you go about breaking the fast the right way if you suffer from candida? Any knowledge you could impart would be helpful. [retrieve this message]

Re: Hair loss and water fasting - Breaking fast to kill the candida by mommytofour 17 days 99

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1424255#i [End]

Re: Hair loss and water fasting - Breaking fast to kill the candida by #167861 17 days 115

Wow thanks!!! ... ... I come here with one question and end up learning so much more. ... ... The sugar from fruit should be okay. The key is to maintain a proper diet with very low fat content. I wouldnt have figured this out in ages. So thank you. [End]

Re: Hair loss and water fasting - Breaking fast to kill the candida by saywhatagain 16 days 94

Just keep in mind this is one person’s opinion. This diet may be beneficial for some people but it will definitely not be right for all people. Try it out and see how you feel. Some people actually do need quite a bit of fat and protein in their diet. Anyone who claims that a certain macro-nutrient (carbohydrates, protein, fat) is bad for you does not have a good understanding of nutrition. It all depends on the specific person and your body type, some people can do very well on a low protein, low fat diet, but not all. Some people actually do better on a somewhat high protein, high ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Hair loss and water fasting - Breaking fast to kill the candida by #167861 15 days 85

I see what you’re saying here. I will see how my body reacts to fruit post fast. Just to be candid there is so much information out there that its too overwhelming. I usually take advise from people on forums who have gone through something similar and most times the advice works surprisingly well. Anyway you make a good point and I will listen to my body cause people are different. Thanks. [End]

Before a water fast - 3 questions

by #167861 18 days 112

I am going to embark on my 2nd water fast journey sometime in the next week. I had planned to do a week of fruits, apple cider vinegar and raw veggies prior to cleaning. But as the date for the cleanse gets nearer I just want to have ”one last good food” experience and I binge. I dont overeat, but I have been eating the wrong foods in okay quantities. ... ... Anyway, Here is the rational behind maintaining a clean diet prior to the fast. The last time, which was my first time water fasting that lasted 10 days. I felt backed up through out the fast. Tried an enema and it did not work. I do ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Before a water fast - 3 questions by burge 17 days 93

I read alot about the water fast and refeeding before i started...somehow i never saw anything about PREfeeding. So, I had breakfast burritos, coffee, oatmeal, more eggs/beef, and about 4 pints of stout on the day before my fast. ... ... I am on Day 29, and it has been hard. Why? Could totally be the lack of readying my body. My saliva gives me the dry heaves, water repulses me, and I almost blacked out on the train TWICE! I have been very weak. ... ... If I could go back, I would PREeat better. Listen, if all goes well, you are gonna have a long life to eat all those good foods. [End]

Re: Before a water fast - 3 questions by #167861 17 days 74

Yup, on my initial fast the focus was on the actual fasting process, getting through the first few days and then on breaking it. I too did not give importance to PREfeeding. Common sense says that you are correct. I will eat fruits and raw veggies for a few day and then get into the fast when it feels right - even though its easier for me to just dive into water only. I guess I need to delay the fast by a few more days.... Dont like it, but oh well, its for the greater good. Thanks for the reply. [End]

Re: Before a water fast - 3 questions by burge 16 days 73

Happy to help. Figure if you do it right, it is easier...and since it is one of the hardest things you’ll ever put your body through, best to do it as nicely as possible. [End]

Water fasting to get skinny?

by wr95 19 days 187

I’m on day 12 of my fast. Still haven’t decided how long I’m going to make it last. But I did some research and have come across so much hate on water fasting to lose weight. Stuff like how you will gain it all back and what not. I’m just wondering is it even possible to go from overweight to skinny? I’m 5’11 and at the start of it, my weight was 210 and a 29.7 BMI. Now I’m 190 with a BMI of 26.5. I’m just wondering, can I even get skinny by continuing this? I mean, yes I can gain it back, but only if I go right back to the cheeseburgers right? I don’t plan on doing that at all. I will eat ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Water fasting to get skinny? by saywhatagain 18 days 152

I think it really all depends on the person and how your body is functioning. I do think that some people are able to lose weight by water fasting and not gain it back, or at least maybe gain some back but remain at a lower weight than when you started. Generally, if the fast is going well for you, you feel good you are not constantly struggling with the overwhelming desire to eat while you are fasting, you don’t feel stressed or anxious (this is a big one), then it is very likely you will be able to keep a lot of the weight off. People who are overly stressed while fasting (not just me ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Water fasting to get skinny? by burge 17 days 120

A great question. I think it’s all mental, like the water fast, itself. If you change your lifestyle, you will change. If not, you won’t. [End]

Re: Water fasting to get skinny? by Keto4Life 6 h 9

You could get whats called ”skinny fat”. It’s where the scale will show you the numbers you want but you will be flabby as just doing a water fast to lose your weight will also mean losing pretty much all your lean muscle mass as well, Which in the end will make it a lot harder to get from skinny fat to fit so you’ll look great in clothes but will hate how you look naked. ... I don’t know if you’re a guy or girl, but if a girl you wont get ”bulky” no matter what even if you started lifting heavy. ... If you’re a guy to get ”bulky” would mean A LOT of hard work and years of cutting, building musc ... [retrieve this message]

Dark Urine - Day 3 of WF

by YoungAndBeautiful 19 days 111

Hello everyone..hope all is well. I’m currently on day 3 of my WF and I’ve noticed the color of my urine is quite darker than usual, almost that of an orange color. On my previous fasts, it’s been lighter and not really this dark from what I can remember. I’m not too worried but at the same time, I’d like some insight on this. I have been drinking water according to thirst only and that has been just about 8-10 oz per day. I don’t like to chug water while fasting because I don’t want to overload my kidneys and lose too much electrolytes. I’ve always did it this way while fasting. Can someo ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Dark Urine - Day 3 of WF by saywhatagain 19 days 105

I understand where your coming from on not wanting to drink too much water, but you most likely need to increase your water intake significantly, especially fasting during the summer, don’t know how warm it is where you are. [End]

Re: Dark Urine - Day 3 of WF by YoungAndBeautiful 19 days 101

Thanks for replying. I’m in New York and it has been very hot the past few days. I’m mostly at work in an air conditioned building so I think I should be ok. I’ll try to increase my water intake [End]

Re: Dark Urine - Day 3 of WF by burge 17 days 73

My urine has been dark pretty much the whole time, though my water intake has varied greatly...the beginning I had 2L or more...recently much less. ... ... Water is good for you. If you sweat, you need more. 8-10oz sounds crazy to me. but even with more, you should have dark urine. [End]

Staggering Water

by Wieters 19 days 103

Hello all; long-time lurker, first-time poster. My sincere thanks for the help that you have already provided, and the counsel that you might be able to provide here in the particular. ... ... I’m a 21 year-old college grad undertaking a 14-day water fast. I don’t have any glaring medical issues, but rather I’m fasting so as to achieve optimal mental (and physical) health. The LSATs loom large for me this fall and so I’m hoping to have my mind and body at peak performance. ... ... While I’ve read both sides of the distilled vs. spring (or at least non-distilled) debate on this forum and elsewhere, m ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Staggering Water by #158068 18 days 72

It is good that you want to fast to improve your physical and mental health. ... ... Fasting is difficult. Don’t make it more difficult than it has to be. Why create more stress by focusing so much on the type of water that you drink? It does not really matter what type of water you drink as long as it is clean and free of certain chemicals, especially chlorine and fluorine, if possible. I have fasted on distilled water, spring water, reverse osmosis water, and even filtered tap water and there really was no difference. I know people who have fasted on unfiltered tap water and they did just fin ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Staggering Water by burge 17 days 58

I am on Day 29, and I tell you this, at this point ALL water tastes bad. I hate it. ... ... It doesn’t matter, but Volvic worked well as it had the highest potassium I could find. But for 2 weeks, it’s all good. Good luck! [End]

Blood pressure issue on Day 13

by GooseHinson 21 days 117

Before the fast, my BP is around 156 95, heart rate 67 somewhere around there. I read all the time BP goes down during and after a fast, which is one of my motivation for doing this. Now, my BP is 140 98, heart rate 80. So yes, my systolic went down, not as much as I like, but my diastolic went up a bit. ... ... Is this normal? Any explanation of this? A little discouraging. [End]

Re: Blood pressure issue on Day 13 by burge 20 days 93

Blood pressure changes easily, depending on stress, etc. ... ... I also had slightly high BP, which is a main reason I started this. But, mine went down. Keep at it, it will go down. ... ... 1 thing to be mindful of...Potassium is a water soluble mineral, which regulates blood pressure. If your blood pressure continues to rise, stop, get some potassium (NATURALLY, of course). It ain’t worth dying over. [End]

Re: Blood pressure issue on Day 13 by rainy3 19 days 90

When I fast my blood pressure goes up at first for a few days and then goes down to normal. Burge gave good advice. If it does not go down you may need to break it. [End]

Healed my Thyroid through water fasting

by mommytofour 21 days 190

Okay everyone...I got the news this morning. I did it ... I healed my Hashimotos. ... ... It started last year in March 2012 I did an extended fast and stopped taking my Synthroid. ... ... I spent the past 13 months doing water fasts between 5 - 10 days. I did not take my synthroid during this time frame. ... ... Last year April 2012 my TSH = 5.29 ... Today’s lab results TSH = 2.2 (normal range is 0.5-4.5) ... ... So my TSH is now within the normal range. ... ... I am so happy with Water fasting I can’t explain my excitement. I look forward to more continued health benefits. ... ... Now it’s onto cellulite and stretchma ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Healed my Thyroid through water fasting by burge 20 days 121

ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! Congrats! [End]

Re: Healed my Thyroid through water fasting by chirontherainbowbridge 20 days 120

Great news! really exciting, isn’t it, to be able to take responsibility back into your own hands and get rid of the meds. It’s very simple, when is said and done; undo the damage... Eat clean, and re-mineralize with whole foods. ... Heal and have time for truly living. Our potential is limitless. ... ... ... ... C [End]

Re: Healed my Thyroid through water fasting by Cilantro88 19 days 113

How many days or weeks did you wait between fasts? [End]
- Re: Healed my Thyroid through water fasting by mommytofour 19 days 103
  
  Average every two months. [End]

Re: Healed my Thyroid through water fasting by #157583 17 days 76

Wow! This is very encouraging news! May I please ask what was your regimen exactly? When and how often did you fast? So it took a year of how many fasts of what length to heal from your thyroid disease? This is truly amazing. [End]

Re: Healed my Thyroid through water fasting by chirontherainbowbridge 17 days 82

It IS encouraging, for people to see/hear. I ”GOOD” alerted on the original post--Can someone please respond and give it an R? ... ... ... Chiron [End]

Who wants to start a 50 day fast with me tomorrow!! And how much would I...

by NayB 22 days 226

I weigh 193 pounds I’m. Girl 15 years old and if I do it for 50 days how much would I weight?? And does anyone want to support me and join me?? [End]

Re: Who wants to start a 50 day fast with me tomorrow!! And how much wou... by InCharge 22 days 205

Normally I would be the last one to discourage anybody from achieving their goals,. but fasting and permanent weight loss won’t work. Even if you did manage to fast the 50 days, all the weight you will lose will come back plus extra. ... ... The reason is your metabolism will have slowed down because you aren’t eating. The amount of food you used to burn for energy will be cut in half, then when you do start eating your body will store food in the fat cells in case for any number of reasons you won’t be able to eat again. ... ... I can’t personally recommend either of these links because I h ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Who wants to start a 50 day fast with me tomorrow!! And how much wou... by burge 21 days 156

50 days is a crazy first goal. Start with a smaller goal, like 10 days...and when you get to 10 days, and all is well, say 15 days. then 21 days.... ... ... I am on Day 25 right now, and I cannot imagine going another 25. And I outweighed you by 100 lbs! I’ve lost 40 lbs so far, but it is not easy...or pleasant. and this foul taste in my mouth just won’t die! ... ... Good luck, but take it slow and easy. stay healthy! [End]

Re: Who wants to start a 50 day fast with me tomorrow!! And how much wou... by natway 21 days 182

No! No! No! Starving yourself is NOT the answer. That is not what you want to do. InCharge is correct in that fasting will slow your metabolism down and cause you to gain MORE weight in the end. See here: ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2062219#i ... ... ... ... You want to EAT your way thin with the right foods. No other species on earth calorie-restricts. The reason humans find they need to is because most humans are eating an unnatural diet. Animals who are given an unnatural diet by humans, like livestock animals, become fat and obese too. ... ... I recommend checking out the advice from Free ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Who wants to start a 50 day fast with me tomorrow!! And how much wou... by lauray 19 days 145

i support you and I’m in with you. Have you started fasting? I have just begun a fast I hope to do for at least 14 days. The others who responded to you are incorrect. It’s all very false thinking/mistaken ideas. Do fast, ... it will help and heal you... the only thing you have to make sure and do is commit to living and eating differently after the fast. It is in this sense that a lack of realism in your thinking may hurt you. Make sure you have a lot of support to change. Do you want to lose the weight permanently, or just temporarily? If you return to your old foods, the weight ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Who wants to start a 50 day fast with me tomorrow!! And how much wou... by natway 19 days 131

She’s not wanting to do just a simple short couple day fast, or a long 14 day fast, but an EXTREMELY LONG 50 DAY fast!!!!! To support a 15 yr old MINOR in doing that is extremely irresponsible. Only extreme morbidly obese people with doctor supervision should do any type of long fast. ... ... And caution about that Liferegenerator guy, Dan McDonald. Have you ever noticed he’s not very happy in any of his videos? It’s because he’s under-carbed and calorie-restricted which makes him depressed. It’s what happens when you try to live off vegetable juice which is low in carbs and calories. He says h ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Who wants to start a 50 day fast with me tomorrow!! And how much wou... by chrisb1 19 days 154

NayB, ... before undergoing a fast you should at least have done some rudimentary research into the subject. ... ... I agree with the theme of the thread from the other posters: 50 days will most likely allow you to enter the starvation stage with a deficiency of electrolytes and insufficient muscle tissue in catabolizing some of this for amino acids to manufacture glucose, required by some organs during fat-burning (ketosis). Insufficient glucose from muscle can lead to cardiac arrest or heart-failure. ... ... Fat is not the only food reserve that you live from on a fast. ... ... Your very best way to lose ... [retrieve this message]

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Re: Who wants to start a 50 day fast with me tomorrow!! And how much wou... by joyinmyspirit 9 days 41

The problems is that it takes TIME to make diet changes and to see what works with your body. It is important to have a very healthy diet before and after your fast...it is literally impossible to ”start eating healthy overnight”, because it includes trial and error as well as educating yourself. ... ... Secondly, health is a lifestyle. So you need to learn over time to exercise regularly as well as get good quality and adequate sleep. Go to 30bananasaday.com for more information. Until you fully UNDERSTAND the factors that got you overweight in the first place, it doesn’t matter how much you ... [retrieve this message]

Beginner

by Goodvib3s 22 days 152

I’ve failed for weeks on end. I always make it to the end of the day and then crazy binge so maybe by talking to some folks on here ill stay strong and do it? I want to do this for not only weightloss but to purge some of this anxiety and negativity and gain mental clarity. I don’t have a number of days in mind but I know that when i get there ill know .... That is, if I can ever make it past the first day. This morning I also had a natural herbal laxitive tea. If anyone has any tips let me know! [End]

Re: Beginner by thrill09 22 days 119

I understand how you feel...I am starting mine today. Last night I had my final super and a laxative. This morning I’m going strong on water only. I’m here if you need someone to chat with.. [End]

Re: Beginner by burge 22 days 122

Maybe I did not read what you guys read, but a laxative? trust me (on Day 24 now), your body will get the crap out...MAN, will it ever! ... ... listen, I am currently at about 250...and it’s the smallest I’ve been for like a decade and a half. It’s all about will power...welllll, it’s all about setting a solid goal and focussing on that goal. I set a goal, and I have not reached it yet, so I keep on. It has mostly sucked. I have been lacking energy every damn day. more than a bit lethargic, absolutely exhausted...even washing my hair takes too much energy. ... ... but, i have that goal. and i ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Beginner by moltten 22 days 223

Here are some fasting tips that I’ve put together that you may find helpful. :-) ... ... To get through tough moments of hunger and detox symptoms, try these water fasting tips: ... ... Keep a gallon of water with you at all times and constantly drink from it. To be sure, you will be taking many trips to the bathroom, but that is fine: The kidneys thank you for the awesome detoxification that is taking place. ... ... In the measure that you can, remove food from your surroundings. If you do not live alone, then it is crucial to have the support of at least one member of your household, to keep t ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Beginner by burge 21 days 101

Dude, you are a rock star! [End]
- Re: Beginner by lauray 19 days 107
  
  Amen! [End]

Am I Dying?

by Auraboros 23 days 210

This post will tell you what happened in the past three days, the next will give you some medical history*** ... ... Good day everyone, ... ... I am posting her with the hope that some with experience will be able to give me some advice or explain what has been happening to me. ... ... I broke my fast on the end of day7 because I had this desperate feeling that I was going to die. All I had at the time were bananas and so I blended them with water. After drinking I only felt worst but I was able to get some much needed sleep. After waking the feeling of approaching death was gone. ... ... On the night of day ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Am I Dying? by saywhatagain 23 days 181

My initial thoughts are that it could be severe anxiety, which can cause people to feel like they are going to die. The other possible cause is a severe electrolyte imbalance, however this shouldn’t happen from only a 7 day fast unless you were doing a lot of enemas and sweating a ton. Also if you were taking any salt or taking epsom salt baths could cause an electrolyte imbalance. Could be worth going to a doctor to check your electrolytes, as a severe electrolyte imbalance can cause heart attacks but probably at this point you should be okay. Eating vegeatables that have good ratios ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Am I Dying? by dee101 10 days 64

i must admit the bananas made me sick after that. I guess my body was saying no more! After that I had vege broth, orange juice, coconut water, green juices pakchoi salads, steamed cabbage and bulghur, rice and beans. I did refeeding for about 5 days. I did stupidly break my vegan diet 12 days after refeeding... :( make me feel very sick to the stomach and what is worst I was constipated so I couldn’t get it out. ... ... PLEASE see my new post which updates :(. Sorry for worrying you. [End]

Re: Am I Dying? by saywhatagain 22 days 131

Could you give us an update on how you are feeling. I was a bit worried about you after your last post. [End]
Re: Am I Dying? by burge 22 days 123

Yeah, I gotta say it would be hard on my to be a woman fasting. Hang in there...and update us. [End]

Re: Am I Dying? by moltten 22 days 131

I had a somewhat similar experience on day 27 of a 40-day fast. I did not feel like I was dying, but I was suddenly convinced that the devil was coming for me, and I kept having horrible nightmares with demons, blood and fire. I’d constantly wake up in a panic, my heart beating rapidly. Anytime I’d start to fall asleep, I’d feel this strong vibration all through my body and felt I was floating away from it. When I was floating slightly above the body, I recall hearing malevolent laughter on one occasion. What does all of this mean? I know that fasting opens certain doors in the mind and sp ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Am I Dying? by burge 21 days 95

I am on Day 25, and the past 2 nights I, too, have had some strange, unenjoyable dreams. Not nearly as morbid and dark, but I think my mind is trying to answer some questions, nay problems I have had.......and seeing inside yourself is not always lollipops and rainbows. [End]

Re: Am I Dying? by rgk 19 days 88

were you sick before the fast? [End]

Re: Am I Dying? by dee101 10 days 55

Hi everyone. I posted this question several days ago from my phone but the antirobot question failed over and over again and so I gave up. I have given an update in my new post under this name (i forgot my login) ... ... I am not dead yet, so if I gave anyone a scare. I did not know that this post went through. ... ... My apologies. [End]

Need Advise: Length of fast for skinny people health reasons

by susanina 23 days 107

Hello, ... I need advise as to for how long a 5’ 100lb person should go on fasting to try to resolve some health issues. I would appreciate any valuable feedback. [End]

Re: Need Advise: Length of fast for skinny people health reasons by moltten 22 days 87

Hi Susanina: You are certainly quite thin, so you must practice fasting with much caution. I’d say that juicing might be more appropriate because, while still undergoing calorie restriction, the body does receive some kind of nourishment, which reduces the speed at which fat is burned. However, if you wish to do strictly water fasting, then I would suggest that you do Intermittent Fasting, each fast no longer than seven days. I’d say no longer than three day for starters, at least until you become accustomed to how your body responds. If you can work your way to seven days of water fasting ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Need Advise: Length of fast for skinny people health reasons by susanina 21 days 83

Dear Moltten! Thank you very much, this information is very helpful to me! I have done small 3-day fasts in the past, so I am more or less familiar of what to expect. I am on my day 10 of fasting now, I plan on sticking with 14 days (originally planned for 21, but I am afraid that really is too much), but as you said, I will watch for those ”second hunger” signs. Thank you again for this useful information! [End]

Day 23 Dry Heaves

by burge 23 days 144

Last 2 days, I have had some dry heaves...nothing to come out...because there’s nothing inside. ... ... Let me just say, this is extremely unpleasant...especially on the walk home from work. I turned down an alley, so at least I looked like a bum...but it was only 8pm... ... ... But, I am in it to win it, so i will be here tomorrow, too...and the next day...no food till June! [End]

Re: Day 23 Dry Heaves by chirontherainbowbridge 23 days 103

That’s rough. Fasting can be really humbling. hope you feel better soon. In the ”Essene Gospel of Peace” the descriptions of some of the sufferings of fasters is pretty heart-wrenching. It’s findable, online, if you’re interested in reading it at some point. (if you haven’t) ... ... ... best, ... ... C [End]

Re: Day 23 Dry Heaves by burge 22 days 75

well, tonight’s dry heaves brought up some lemon-tasting acid. did not burn the throat, which is nice. clear in color, which is great. And that mostly seemed to stop it...well, until tomorrow night, at least. ... ... [End]

Ingesting mucus on water fast?

by wr95 24 days 112

So my nose is pretty much stuffed up all day and I’m constantly coughing up phlegm. I hate getting up to go to the bathroom constantly, so I’ve been swallowing it. Not all of it, just on occasion. Is this bad? Also, I use normal tooth paste. I try not to swallow that, but it’s never certain if I swallow any or not. I’m on day 8 of my fast. Still not sure how long I’m going to make this last. I used distilled water btw. [End]

Re: Ingesting mucus on water fast? by applecore 23 days 97

I don’t know if it’s detrimental or not to swallow mucus. Probably not, but what I do now- I use a small tub, like one that hummus comes in, and spit into that if anything comes up. At the end of the fast, I just pop the lid on and throw it away. I feel better expelling the stuff that is coming out of me, rather than swallowing it back down. You can always wash the residue away every few hours if there is a lot. ... ... e2a- the stuff is coming up and out for a reason, so it is probably better to spit it out. But I doubt it matters greatly if you swallow some back down. ... ... [End]

Question..:)

by stellalittlehat 25 days 138

Hey everybody...I water fasted for almost 9 days and then I juice fasted, have been juice fasting for another 5 and tomorrow I will go back to water only...I regretted breaking my fast, it was more mental than anything else, and all I could think sbout was a latte...darn my addiction lol ... I weigh 121 at the moment, and what I want is to lose 10 pounds of fat...I know we lose water and fat when we fast, and I really want to ask you better fasters this: how many days should I water fast for 10-12 pounds of pure fat to be lost? ... I would guess around two weeks...am I right? ... thank you all:) ... S ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Question..:) by chirontherainbowbridge 25 days 128

so, didja drink the latte??????? (as ”juice”) Just kidding, that’s between you and You. what a great thing to do at the ripe old year of 28. I would think about two weeks--but bear in mind, a lot has to do with your reserves, and also, the body will prioritize house-cleaning, safe dumping of toxins, and other kinds of healing you might not ever be aware of. That is, ”losing fat” is not its total M.O. But if you are doing some good juice feasting (lots of greens for building up the minerals), try it out and see. You are your own best experiment. :-) ... ... Chiron [End]

Re: Question..:) by stellalittlehat 24 days 121

...oh Chiron, not only did I drink that soy latte with honey, ... I also ate fava beans and banana and to top it off dark chocolate...:(((( ... ...it was bad...fortunately I didn’t feel horrible, or gain too much...as far as the juicing goes, I am done with it for now and so today I started my water fast and I will try to go for 2 weeks and lose that 10 pounds of fat...I don’t know about my fat percentage but I do eat a lot more than girls my size and I don’t gain weight in my normal eating days...maybe it has to do with what I eat, I only like good foods..my favourite thing in the world, other ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Question..:) by chirontherainbowbridge 24 days 101

thank you! you just helped me decide something about a birthday dinner, by mentioning tahini. :-) ... all the best ... ... C ... ... ... [End]
- Re: Question..:) by stellalittlehat 23 days 83
  
  same to you C.tahini is delicious in any recipe!! ... :) [End]

Broke my fast!!

by snowflowr82 25 days 151

So I was feeling fantastic yesterday afternoon no tooth pain no sore throat tons of energy though still weak more of a mental state I guess lol talking a lot out in the sun.. So I decided to break my fast I felt I was over the hump of my health crisis. I got to eat my watermelon at 4pm then I made a homemade veggie broth which I had about 6:45 then another small piece of watermelon before bed :) guess what no teeth pain last night yay!!! It’s all gone I could jump up and down!! I’m not dizzy or anything whiteness is gone from tounge and roof of mouth you name it!! And I’m good to go ;) I’ ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Broke my fast!! by burge 23 days 90

well done [End]

Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays

by snowflowr82 26 days 196

I will be starting intermittent fasting every Monday and Thursday, I was wondering if anyone else does this and what the best way to refeed is after a 24 hr fast? Thanks [End]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by InCharge 26 days 150

I posted a Mercola article on the news forum re: intermittent fasting a couple of months ago, but I can’t find it, and I am busy loading data in a spread sheet. Maybe you can find it there, or on mercola.com. ... [End]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by InCharge 26 days 176

http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/05/17/intermittent-fasting-diet.aspx ... [End]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by snowflowr82 25 days 137

Thanks for the link :) I read it. I’m excited I believe it will help me prevent disease have longevity (doesn’t run in my family though breast cancer, cervix cancer, enphasema, high cholesterol, high BP and diabetics does) and give me energy and the bit of weight loss I need (about 20lbs) I’m really curious how to break a 24 fast if its the same as a 7-9 day fast just shorter or if it doesn’t tax the body to go straight into food since nits only 24 hrs if you have any insight into that I’d be most grateful :) [End]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays warning: food talk by chirontherainbowbridge 25 days 161

... Hi snowflowr (lovely visual) ... ... well, looking at google,it appears to have become the latest fad, so most people will abuse it: people are always looking for a way the ’cheat’ Nature, to binge and purge or do penance -- to put it bluntly. Nature would advise a plant-based lifestyle,(not ”diet” as people think if that), meaning, you would be eating raw-ish and organic if possible fruits and vegetables, and soaked, germinated (very important) nuts and seeds, not the dead, roasted and such. ... ... So, if you are intermittent fasting, then when you break fast, you would just eat what your body w ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by InCharge 25 days 133

I didn’t reread the link I gave you so I guess they didn’t say anything about it. ... ... This is just my personal opinion. I don’t think breaking a 24 hr fast is a big deal as your digestive system hasn’t shut down completely, but maybe cut it some slack and go lightly. Soup, fruit,etc. ... [End]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by snowflowr82 25 days 121

I grew up and still live in Alaska not much of anything is grown up here other than potatoes, carrots, some cabbage, heads of lettuce and pumpkins (mostly for size for the fair they get like 1,000lbs here from all the daylight) ohh and zucchini grow fantastic here thats about it no fruits other than some people can get strawberries to grow and of course berries salmonberries, blueberries, cranberries. So for much more of a variety i have to purchase food brought in from other places downstates. Alot of people here rely on red salmon, moose, caribou, goat and deer here for meat or halibut a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by InCharge 25 days 120

another note you can spend 7$ on 2 apples here where i live!! eek ... ... So How many apple trees did you plant? ... [End]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by chirontherainbowbridge 25 days 129

Indeed. It seems like that’s the future. We have to start growing our food. Food forests, berry bush fences. Nettles to keep out bandits. I live in zone 5, so can’t grow my favourite lemon trees. I keep fantasizing over a pyramid-shaped greenhouse with three floors. third floor for the tropicals. ... :-) ... ... ... C ... [End]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by chirontherainbowbridge 25 days 118

Ah, Alaska. ... ... Pumpkins! sounds great. I like them small and sauteed with the skin on. And berries...they would be like a ”superfood” for you, if they are local. I would be making a lot of cultured cabbage sauerkraut and kimchi in the fall. Quinoa, black beans, millet too is a really good seed/grain, as everything gets more expensive. ... ... ... C [End]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by snowflowr82 24 days 118

They don’t sell the pumpkins they grow up here not that I’ve seen its all for show lol I haven’t planted any apple trees I travel to the big city to buy in bulk lol buttttt I should do some research to see if I could. I’ve had a garden z few years one year was great!! Potatoes, zucchini, lettuce, green onion, turnips, cucumber(in small greenhouse) carrots, snap peas ”tried” spinach nope but got some broccoli and cauliflower and a cpl small cabbages it was awesome!!! Next year :( a lot of rain and I had millions of slugs it was bad. This year is turning out bad I could maybe start this next ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Intermittent fasting Mondays and Thursdays by burge 23 days 105

You can easily pay $7 for 2 apples here, too. You do NOT want to know how much a small watermelon will run! [End]

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