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  • protocols of the elders of fountaigne   gerbil   4mo
     
    ... ... http://theunhivedmind.com/UHM/a-very-old-the-unhived-mind-interview/ ... ... ... Q: Could you talk little about how the Freemasons, Illuminati, and Zionists are involved in this? Is the supposed Priory of Sion involved at all? ... ... I cannot comment on the Sion to be honest but all the groups work together in the Pyramid command control structure. There are some in the Illuminati who are in Freemasonry and Black Nobility etc etc. Zionism is nothing to do with legit Hebrews (Dark skinned). Zionism is nothing more than Jesuit White controlled tyranny veiled in a Jewish conspiracy. The Jesuits are ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ’’ This is why you learn the truth from 30th degree and nev...   panoslydios   4mo
       
      ’’ This is why you learn the truth from 30th degree and never rise above 33’’ ... ... this is going to be a silly question,but are there any exposed teachings of these last degrees covered in books or video?   [End]
      • ... ... http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Misc/deadly.htm .....   ohfor07   4mo
         
        ... ... http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Misc/deadly.htm ... ... ... ... Jim Shaw is one of the highest ranking Freemasons to ever defect to Christianity. Billy Graham took part in Rev. Jim Shaw’s 33rd Degree Masonic initiation. This was before Shaw left the Lodge for Christ. Only 33rd Degree Masons and candidates participate in that initiation. Jim Shaw refers to Billy Graham’s presence at this Masonic ritual on page 104 of his book co-authored with Tom McKenney titled ’The Deadly Deception’ Lafayette, LA: Huntington House, Inc. 1998. Huntington House refused to print this book unless they took out B ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Israel proposes law to tax NGOs criticising its treatment o...   Newport   4mo
     
    An Israeli government committee approved a draft law on Sunday that will impose an additional 45 per cent tax on the external donations of those Israeli NGOs that criticise Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. ... ... According to media reports, the extreme right wing political allies of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu proposed the bill. ... ... https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/8846-israel-proposes-law-to-tax-ngos-criticising-its-treatment-of-palestinians ... ... -- ... ”All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” ... --George Orwell ...   [retrieve this message]
    • The draft law reportedly targets NGOs that support boycotti...   shlosmem   72d
       
      The draft law reportedly targets NGOs that support boycotting Israeli institutions, imposing sanctions on Israel and prosecuting Israeli soldiers before international tribunals. ... ... Do you know any country that must deal with similar situation? I’m sure that all the countries will do mach worse if they fell threaten. For example see what US did to the communists supporters.   [End]
  • "Memory Holes"   Newport   6mo
     
    Supreme Court to Israel: ”Stop Robbing” ... http://www.roitov.com/articles/jehoash.htm ... ... Unlike in Greece, in Israel archeology is considered more than a tax-generating business by the state. It offers the opportunity to rewrite history, to delete Palestinians and recreate Biblical Israel. Recently, two events provided colorful reminders of these industrious fabrications. ... -- ... Israel systematically attempts to create what George Orwell called in 1984 ”Memory Holes,”+ a fairytale that the state calls ”history” while selling tickets to its national parks.   [End]
  • Image Embedded All Israeli settlements on Palestinian land are illegal, US...   trapper/kcmo   8mo
     
    ... All Israeli settlements on Palestinian land are illegal, US says ... ... ... US Secretary of State John Kerry speaks during a news conference with Brazil’s Foreign Minister Antonio Patriota in Brasilia on August 13, 2013. ... ... ... Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:8PM GMT ... ... 71 ... ... ... ... ... 927 ... ... ... ...   ... ... ... ... ... 117 ... ... ... ...   ... ... ... ... ... More than half a million Israelis live in over 120 illegal settlements built since Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and East al-Quds. ... ... ... ... Related Interviews: ... ... ... ... ‘Talks meant to buy time for Israe ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Just hot air due to this: ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm...   Newport   8mo
       
      Just hot air due to this: ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2094036#i   [End]
    • ”Once you have security and borders solved, you have resolv...   johng   8mo
       
      ”Once you have security and borders solved, you have resolved the question of settlements,” he added. ... ... Kerry is a liar. people hear the part about settlements being illegal, and think that the US government may actually do the right thing... but they are wrong. ... ... the quoted part above makes clear... the talk of illegal settlements is just talk... once they force the Palestinians to agree to new borders, the formerly ’illegal’ settlments ’poof’ become legal, inside the new borders. ... ... liars....   [End]
      • Israeli Army Seeks to Evict Villagers to Expand Firing Zone   Newport   8mo
         
        http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/262252 ... ... WRH comment ... This is one of Israel’s ongoing tricks. They will DE CLARE a ”buffer area” or ”firing zone”, move the Palestinians out, then over time, move Israelis in, then DE CLARE the need for yet another ”buffer area” or ”firing zone”, move the Palestinians out, then over time, move Israelis in, then DE CLARE the need for yet another ...   [End]
    • Re: All Israeli settlements on Palestinian land are illegal...   homosex   8mo
       
      who pays your bills ... so you can be on the internet   [End]
  • Image Embedded Video Embedded Palestinian children continue to be targeted by Israel   johng   8mo
     
    ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... International rights bodies have time and again warned about the violations of the rights of Palestinian children and teenagers by Israel. However, Israel seems to be turning a blind eye to all warnings, with its forces and settlers carrying on targeting Palestinian youths. ... ... Atta Muhammad Atta Sabah is one of these victims. The 12-year-old boy was shot and wounded by Israeli soldiers in May this year. Nearly three months on, he’s still suffering. We met Atta Muhammad and his family from Jelazoun refugee camp near the West Bank city of Ramallah. He exp ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Israeli children continue to be targeted by Hamas   InCharge   8mo
       
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1qKC-soEQ ... ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQNtNuCgyMQ ... ... It’s a war zone. What’s your point? ... ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBlVcHJgZjA ... ... Hamas kills their own children. ...   [End]
      • Image Embedded war zone? you mean the occupied apartheid gulag?   johng   8mo
         
          ... ... ... ... the point is obvious enough, the occupation is the epitome of evil. ...   [End]
        • Re: Nobody wanted to live there until the jews made it habi...   InCharge   8mo
           
          In 1854, according to a report in the New York Tribune, Jews constituted two-thirds of the population of that holy city. (The source: A journalist on assignment in the Middle East that year for the Tribune. His name was Karl Marx -- yes, that Karl Marx.) ... ... In 1867, Mark Twain took a tour of Palestine. This is how he described that land: "A desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds. A silent, mournful expanse. We never saw a human." ... ... In 1882, official Ottoman Turk census figures showed that, in the entire Land of Israel, there were only 14 ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Image Embedded Re: Palestinian children continue to be targeted by Israel   Newport   8mo
       
      warned about the violations ... The Lapdog will Veto no matter what! ... ... Actually anyone that dumps White Phosphorus on a civilian population can’t be bargained with.. ... http://www.r-sw.com/custimages/dd395-Phos%20(site).jpg   [End]
  • Image Embedded Children detained by Israeli army as young as 6 years old: ...   trapper/kcmo   10mo
     
    http://www.palestinemonitor.org/userfiles/20130610023633.jpg ... ... http://www.palestinemonitor.org/details.php?id=ouilj9a4284ys5pej3pk4 ... ... ... A child being arrested in Nabi Saleh. Photo by Lazar Simeonov. ... ... ... Children detained by Israeli army as young as 6 years old: a new trend? ... ... Children younger than 12-years old can’t be charged or sentenced, according to the Israeli military law to which Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem are subjected; however, the Israeli army has repeatedly violated this law over the years and reports show an increase in the number of children detained ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Outrageous_ Let me add to the stupidity of the far east...   InCharge   10mo
       
      ... ... ... ... ... Islamic Terror Attacks on Christians ... (Since 9/11) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... This is a list of targeted acts of terrorism on Christian civilians and church workers by religious Muslims since September 11th, 2001. These attacks have nothing to do with war, combat or insurgency. The victims are innocent Christians who were specifically targeted and abused solely on account of their faith by those who claim their own religion as a motive. ... ... There may be a few anomalies on the ...   [retrieve this message]
      • funny that your little chart thing there doesn’t mention th...   johng   10mo
         
        funny that your little chart thing there doesn’t mention that many of those so called islamic terror attacks were staged by mercenaries or puppets of western or israeli intelligence agencies... so its really zionist terror... if you want to be accurate. ... ... or, do you really expect people to believe that a small group of muslims living in caves in afghanistan brought down three skyscrapers with magic box cutters on 911, after mysteriously shutting down all North American air defense that day? and somehow hijacking magic planes that can penetrate steel columns all the way through the build ...   [retrieve this message]
        • As usual the point I was trying to make flew right over you...   InCharge   10mo
           
          As usual the point I was trying to make flew right over your head. ... ... Everything your tag team rails about that the jews have done can be shown to be insignificant in comparison to what the Islamist are doing in the name of religion. They have in the past murdered whole villages of their own just because they were a different sect that didn’t tow the line.  Remember Chemical Ali? ... ... So your tag teams constant one sided nitpicking besides being old is becoming comical. ... ... As for "that a small group of muslims living in caves in afghanistan brought down three skyscrapers with m ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Video Embedded Wishing you luck and strength :) ... ... Its awesome that ...   johng   10mo
             
            Wishing you luck and strength :) ... ... Its awesome that you got through the first and second day. Now the hard part is almost over !!! ... ... In my opinion not telling coworkers or friends about the fas ...   [End]
            • You call that proof? ... ... That was an anti Israeli ad...   InCharge   10mo
               
              You call that proof? ... ... That was an anti Israeli advertisement for the brain dead sheeple of the world. ... ... Innuendos, and conjecture do not equal proof. ... ... Why do we have muslims sitting in prison for the 1993 attempted bombing of the towers? ... ... Because they used a van which was proved to be rented by them.  Capish? ... ...   ...   [End]
  • Can Jews Be Saved? / Since when is telling the truth consid...   opihikaobob   13mo
     
    www.realjewnews.com/ ... ... Hopefully some . ... ... Take Hollywood for example - have you ever seen a movie from those -umm,   people, that doesn’t curse God or Jesus? ... ... Even their comedy’s are all worse than juvenile bathroom humor - pay attention ! As Sun Tuz  would say ”Know Thy Enemy”. ... ... Pay attention to what jews consider funny- as they intend to infect your children’s minds with  their  filth and violent behavior. ...   [End]
    • Image Embedded Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism   befurther   13mo
       
      According to an article published at the World Zionist Organization’s (WZO) website: ... ... ... " REMARKABLY, the Khazars, a people of Turkic origin, converted to the Jewish religion sometime in the 9th century, beginning with the royal house and spreading gradually among the general populace. Judaism is now known to have been more widespread among the Khazar inhabitants of the Khazar kingdom than was previously thought. In 1999, Russian archaeologists announced that they had successfully reconstructed a Khazarian vessel from the Don River region, revealing 4 inscriptions of th ...   [retrieve this message]
      • ... iamthewitness.com/books/Douglas.Reed/The.Controversy.o...   opihikaobob   13mo
         
        ... iamthewitness.com/books/Douglas.Reed/The.Controversy.of.Zion/17.The.Destructive.Mission.htm ... ...   ... ... THE DESTRUCTIVE MISSION ... ...  The study of hundreds of volumes, during many years, gradually brought realization that the essential truth of the story of Zion is all summed-up in Mr. Maurice Samuel’s twenty-one words: "We Jews, the destroyers, will remain the destroyer forever . . . nothing that the Gentiles will do will meet our needs and demands". ... ... At first hearing they sound vainglorious or neurotic, but incre ...   [retrieve this message]
        • " "All history" means different things to t...   befurther   13mo
           
          " "All history" means different things to the Jew and the Gentile. To the Gentile it means, approximately, the annals of the Christian era and any that extend further back before they begin to fade into legend and myth." ... ... This statement fLIES in the face of logic. The author believes they know what something means to someone else, how quaint. ...   [End]
          •   "All history" means different things to ...   opihikaobob   13mo
             
              "All history" means different things to the Jew and the Gentile. To the Gentile it means, approximately, the annals of the Christian era and any that extend further back before they begin to fade into legend and myth." ... ... I would say that the word    " approximately" means just that.,  anyway further investigation at   iamthewitness.com/books/Douglas.Reed/The.Controversy.of.Zion/index.htm   would provide further elucidation ... ...   ... ...   ... ...   ... ... iamthewitness.com/books/ ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Douglas Reed has some interesting info, I’ll give you that....   befurther   13mo
               
              Douglas Reed has some interesting info, I’ll give you that. However I find there is an air of presumption in his work. Which definitely doesn’t help his arguement. ...   [End]
            • A book on that site that I would more likely recommend woul...   befurther   13mo
               
              A book on that site that I would more likely recommend would be. ... ... The 13th Tribe by Arthur Koestler ... ... http://iamthewitness.com/books/Arthur.Koestler/The.13th.Tribe.htm ... ... RISE ... ... 1 ... ... ABOUT the time when Charlemagne was crowned Emperor of the West, the eastern confines of Europe between the Caucasus and the Volga were ruled by a Jewish state, known as the Khazar Empire. At the peak of its power, from the seventh to the tenth centuries AD, it played a significant part in shaping the destinies of mediaeval, and consequently of modern, Europe. The Byzantine Emperor and historian, ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Image Embedded I don’t like to to post this stuff , but the truth must com...   opihikaobob   13mo
                 
                I don’t like to to post this stuff , but the truth must come out. ... "After the lifetime of Jesus the Old Testament, with the New Testament, was translated into Latin by Saint Jerome, when both came to be regarded by the Church as of equal divine authority and as sections of one Book." ... ... A modern encyclopaedia. ... ... THE TORAH ... ... "And the Lord spake unto me, saying. . . This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of thee . ...   [retrieve this message]
                • "You decide what you would rather  have .THE...   befurther   13mo
                   
                  "You decide what you would rather  have .THE NEW TESTAMENT or THE TORAH" ... ... Is that like choosing Coke or Pepsi? Republicrat or Democklicken? ... ... That’s quite a salvo of info, so much so that it is almost unintelligeable...I guess I’ll see where it goes. Collectivising people that don’t exist as such could likely be seen as intellectually dishonest. ... ... It occurs to me that, cloking ones self as a Jew while doing such misdeeds would be a great way to destroy a culture. It works on many levels. For example a satan Worshipper might become an tele-evangelist to fool naive ...   [retrieve this message]
                  •   ... ... Is that like choosing Coke or Pepsi? Repu...   opihikaobob   13mo
                     
                      ... ... Is that like choosing Coke or Pepsi? Republicrat or Democklicken? Actually it’s like choosing life or death imho- one is all about love thy neighbor (New Testament) the other is about utterly destroying anyone who is not a jew ... ...   ... ...  "That’s quite a salvo of info, so much so that it is almost unintelligeable...I guess I’ll see where it goes. Collectivising people that don’t exist as such could likely be seen as intellectually dishonest." ... ... Yes, it is a lot of info, but that is what it takes to be informed on a subject "Collectivis ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • " Actually it’s like choosing life or death imho- one...   befurther   13mo
                       
                      " Actually it’s like choosing life or death imho- one is all about love thy neighbor (New Testament) the other is about utterly destroying anyone who is not a jew" ... ... Well I never saw it that way. If you ask me, the New Testament is simply a reaffirmation of the Old Testament. ... ... "Yes , I agree with that statment - sort of a false flagg kind of thing, however who in this case is being cloaked?" ... ... Evil People. The synagogue of Satan ...   [End]
                      • "Well I never saw it that way. If you ask me, the New ...   opihikaobob   13mo
                         
                        "Well I never saw it that way. If you ask me, the New Testament is simply a reaffirmation of the Old Testament." ... ... Sorry to say I disagree with you, It is a new testament and in many respects the old has passed away. ... ... I will try to find the scriptural verse to back up this statement as I remember one somwhere , but don’t have the time right now to look , but whenI find it (if) I will [paste it here . ... ...   ...   [End]
  • The Israel-Palestinian Conflict: Each Side’s Contrasting Na...   Johny Apple Bomb   16mo
     
    http://ethicalfocus.org/the-israel-palestinian-conflict-each-sides-contrasting-narratives/ ... ... ... ... Because this is a very difficult and emotional subject, I think it’s helpful for you to know something about my background. It is, at least in part, a basis for my point of view. I grew up in Antwerp, Belgium, and lived there until the age of 11. I came to New York in 1940 in what I think was the last boat before Germany invaded. The reason I’m alive and here is because of my mother. She was organizing a soup kitchen feeding refugees from Germany, and she heard the stories and convinced my fat ...   [retrieve this message]
  • The Qassam rocket only has a range of 7.5 miles   Newport   17mo
     
    Pictures and updates at source: http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/202096 ...   [End]
    • Re: Can you say Bullsh*t?   InCharge   17mo
       
      "This is a detailed list of Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel in 2012. All the attacks originated in the Gaza Strip , unless stated otherwise. ... ... As of October 2012, over 800 rockets had been launched at Israel from Gaza since January 2012. [1] ... ... ... " ... ... ... January 1 ... ... ... Palestinians fired two mortar shells containing ... ... ... phosphorus into Eshkol Regional Council . The shells landed in open fields, causing no injuries or damage. [3] The Eshkol Regional Council filed a formal complaint with the United Nations, noting that the Geneva Convention ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Video Embedded ... Maybe maybe not... ... ... ... It is not me or my id...   Newport   17mo
         
        ... Maybe maybe not... ... ... ... It is not me or my ideas that you must question, it is the Absolute Will of God! ... ... Now I went back and read your reply’s and comments : ... ... So know you are an agnostic a ...   [End]
        • More Bullsh*t is just that, More BS. ... ... Get real, a ...   InCharge   17mo
           
          More Bullsh*t is just that, More BS. ... ... Get real, a video made by a jerk that hasn’t got the cojones to put his real name so he uses a well known poet who died in 1972. ... ... Sets up a young girl who answers telephones. Starts off with offering to donate a $1000.00 to make her believe he supports the organization that she answers telephones for. Then proceeds to deceive her knowing that she isn’t going to hang up, or jeopardize her job for saying anything other than trying to appease a liar who wants to donate money. ... ... In addition he works for a website that claims to be "Stop fundin ...   [retrieve this message]
          • look for the truth?   johng   17mo
             
            ... then have a good long look: ... ... http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/GazaHolo/index.html ...   [End]
            • You haven’t a clue what the truth is. Posting photographs w...   InCharge   17mo
               
              You haven’t a clue what the truth is. Posting photographs with no links as to where they are from, or labled as to what they are supposed to represent albeit that you are trying to compare Israel to the nazi’s by dates at the top of each column don’t make it true. ... ... Your ignorance is showing that you expect anybody with a functioning brain to accept that as truth. ... ... The nazi’s were building fences to keep Jews in the ghetto’s, and concentration camps. ... ... The Jews [If in fact they are] built walls to keep the jerks that believed they would collect 72 virgins if they blow up buses, rest ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Video Embedded Posting photographs with no links as to where they are from...   johng   17mo
                 
                Posting photographs with no links as to where they are from ... ... if you need links to explain those photos, i don’t think i’m going to be able to do much for you, sorry. ... ... perhaps an Israeli voice?: ... ... ... ... then again, he is probably just lying too... to malign his father and grandfather... or something...   [End]
                • Not sure what your post proves, although I have to admit I ...   InCharge   17mo
                   
                  Not sure what your post proves, although I have to admit I only watched about half. The messages I got from that amount" ... ... He’s pumping his book, and having parents who lived in Israel gives him a leg up from the average person doing the same thing. ... ... The Egyptions made the first agressive move by throwing the peace keeping forces out of the buffer zone. ... ... Then put their own army in the same buffer zone. [Could be and was deemed to be an aggressive move.] ... ... Then they moved this army closer to the Israeli border. Definately an aggressive move, that would prompt any reasonable p ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Video Embedded leading rabbi calls death by plague of Palestinians   johng   17mo
                 
                a model of tolerance and justice... who would believe that anyone with this mentality could possibly be the underlying issue: ... ...   [End]
          • Video Embedded Re: Can you say Bullsh*t?   Newport   17mo
             
            ... Maybe maybe not... ... ... ... It is not me or my ideas that you must question, it is the Absolute Will of God! ... ... Now I went back and read your reply’s and comments : ... ... So know you are an agnostic a ...   [End]
    • Rivero needs to get educated on the subject   Tizona   17mo
       
      The commander, Ahmed al-Jabari, had shifted Hamas’s low-grade militia into a disciplined force with sophisticated weapons like Fajr-5 rockets, which are named after the Persian word for dawn and have significantly increased the danger to Israel’s major cities. They have a range of about 45 miles and are fired by trained crews from underground launching pads. ... ... http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/18/world/middleeast/arms-with-long-reach-bolster-hamas.html?_r=1& ...   [End]
      • IDF admits knowingly bombing house with journalists inside   johng   17mo
         
        because anyone in Gaza is apparently fair game... collective punishment as refined by fascist regimes, including the Nazis, and now the criminal syndicate operating ans the state of is-ra-el: ... ... ... ”IDF admits knowingly bombing journalists in Gaza ... ... ... The IDF says it knew there were foreign media at least in one of the two buildings they bombed overnight. However it stressed that the journalists were not target of the attack, a spokesperson told BBC.” ... ... ... http://rt.com/news/line/2012-11-18/#id40592   [End]
        • the subject of the thread is whether or not Hamas has missi...   Tizona   17mo
           
          the subject of the thread is whether or not Hamas has missiles capable of hitting Jerusalem ... ... Or, as Mike Rivero@whatreallyhappened.com seems to suggest, Israel is actually bombing itself and then trying to blame it on Hamas ... ... I’m showing you very clearly that Hamas does in fact have the missiles capable of hitting Israel ... ... I think it’s just kind of silly to conjure up a conspiracy theory every time you are a bit low on facts ... ... also,it makes me think that Rivero has a tendency to just make stuff up as long as it suits his preconceived biases   [End]
          • talk about a non issue... unarmed innocent palestinians ar...   johng   17mo
             
            talk about a non issue... unarmed innocent palestinians are being murdered daily, and you are concerned about whether Mike Rivero’s theories are correct? honestly, i don’t care one way or another whether those missles originate in Gaza. Israelis are delusional if they believe that they can keep Gaza under embargo, continue illegal colonial settlement expansion, starve the population, assassinate palestinians with impunity and not expect the Palestinians to fight back. zionists made the mess, now the consequences come home to roost as people around the world are waking up to the horror ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Image Embedded Innocent victims: Children among dozens killed by Israeli a...   johng   17mo
             
            Innocent victims: Children among dozens killed by Israeli airstrikes ... ... ... permalink ... ... Published: 18 November, 2012, 17:57 ... ... ... ...   ... ... ... TAGS: ... Arms, Conflict, Military, Israel, Army, Clashes, Violence ... ... TRENDS: ... Israel-Gaza strikes ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... A Palestinian rescue worker carries the body of a child from the al-Dallu family into the hospital in Gaza City.(AFP Photo / Mohammed Abed) ... ... ... ...   ... ... ... Israeli airstrikes killed seven children and wounded many others in Gaza on Sunday. At least 13 children have been killed since Operation Pillar of Defense ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Israel tries to lay the blame on Iran!   Newport   17mo
         
        Some critical thinking is lacking, less believing more investigation would help.. ... ... http://whatreallyhappened.com/node/201957 ... ... ... Israel is claiming that Iran has supplied Fajr-5 rockets to whoever inside Gaza is launching them at Israel. ... ... BULL BISCUITS! ... ... Israel’s blockade of Gaza is so tight that crayons and musical instruments for Gaza’s children cannot get through. The Fajr-5 is 6 1/2 meters long, and weighs 915 Kilograms. It requires a launcher, which is 10 1/2 meters long. ... ... Think something that big and heavy gets smuggled in through a tunnel? ... ... And common sense applies here. ...   [retrieve this message]
  • attention aaaaaaba   glaxony   20mo
     
    My great great grandfather was a yankee who fought to free the slaves. ... He was captured and detained by the confederate soldiers and put in a prisoner of war camp. They gave him one pint of dry corn to eat every 30 days, or was it a week? Whatevers... ... ... He weighed 160 pounds when he went he went to war and 87 pounds when it was over. He was not the only person who was starved. But the soldiers who fought the civil war did not use their starvation as a tool for political gain. ... ... War is war. It is what it is. ... ... Unless it is contrived to be used for an ulterior purpose. ... ... How long is the ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Civil war wasn’t about freeing black slaves, it was to crea...   Mike1953   20mo
       
      Civil war wasn’t about freeing black slaves, it was to create a more perfect union of all of u s slaves   [End]
      • Aho!   glaxony   20mo
         
        But my Great Great Grandaddy thought it was. The whole family took pride in him helping out.   [End]
    • Re: attention aaaaaaba   Hidden Username   20mo
       
      Sometimes your conversations are so lifelike, it is hard to remember you are not a real girl.   [End]
    • Ok. Then a question. At what point would you be offended or...   aaaaaaaaba   20mo
       
      Ok. Then a question. At what point would you be offended or upset and when would you respond if people started to accuse your grandfather of being of a hoax?   [End]
      • I wouldn’t. The war was horrible. What happens to people in...   glaxony   20mo
         
        I wouldn’t. The war was horrible. What happens to people in war is horrible. Everyone was afraid Fascism was going to spread to the whole world and HItler would the Lord of all. He did what he thought he needed to do, help to prevent that. But it didn’t. Because as soon as that war was over, the same thing started happening to the Palestinians and Corporate America began to show it’s true colors by controlling the men in Washington. I would simply understand that he was ignorantly taking part in a grand illusion that was in the process of unfolding, which would have the opposite effect. In ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Video Embedded The History of the Middle East Conflict in 11 Minutes   trapper/kcmo   21mo
     
    Ive had the same issues after 30day Humaworm, I did a liver flush (Hulda Clark) on the 2nd week..gave me terrible headaches on the 2nd day of the flush, but on the 3rd day, it seems like the heavy ...   [End]
  • Obama hands Israel another $70 Mil in military aid..   johng   21mo
     
    well that is whey they appointed him afterall... you U.S. taxpayers are just going to have work harder to support Israeli expansion and theft of palestinian and arab lands. From PressTV: ... ... ... US President Barack Obama has signed a piece of legislation ratified by Congress that gives Israel another $70 million in military assistance, on top of the $3 billion the United States had already pledged to provide to the Israeli military this year. ... ... ... On Friday, Obama signed the United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012, which provides more US taxpayer dollars to help Israe ...   [retrieve this message]
    • isn't that special........nfm   wen   21mo
      • 100 million poor people in america...   johng   21mo
         
        but I am sure that each and every one of those poor people will sleep better tonight knowing that the U.S. government does such great job protecting Israel with U.S. tax dollars: ... ... http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/253108.html ... ... ... Every single day more Americans fall into poverty. This should deeply alarm you no matter what political party you belong to and no matter what your personal economic philosophy is. Right now, approximately 100 million Americans are either ”poor” or ”near poor”. For a lot of people ”poverty” can be a nebulous concept, so let’s define it. The poverty level as defi ...   [retrieve this message]
    • not even a tiny bit of joy for 10 seconds?   nothinghappened   21mo
      • Are you feeling upset because you are having a hard time fi...   glaxony   21mo
         
        Are you feeling upset because you are having a hard time finding a power of positive thinking abraham hicks forum at Cure Zone?   [End]
        • I dont know what that is.   whatiswrongwithyou   21mo
           
          I dont know what that is.   [End]
          • have you ever noticed the message of the day posts? ... or ...   glaxony   21mo
             
            have you ever noticed the message of the day posts? ... or the bible interpretation posts? ... or that handbook Trapper has been posting page by page that tells people ... how to lead a balanced, happy, and respectful life? ... i see lots of positive things here ... ...   [End]
            • No I have not. Only this forum. Where is the handbook for a...   pandabears   21mo
               
              No I have not. Only this forum. Where is the handbook for a respectful life? I left a reply but was blocked which is expected. I answered to mainly why I am angry. I cant re create it but the simple answer is I resent the treatment of Jews. There is a group that watches sites and I became aware of this what now seems long time ago and this forum was studied. I took a personal anger at the treatment of Jews but the overwhelming negative attitude about everything is impossible to ignore so that is easy to pick at to. I and many others resent the representation of Jews. Who are these people w ...   [retrieve this message]
              • I called it handbook for balanced life, it was an interpret...   glaxony   21mo
                 
                I called it handbook for balanced life, it was an interpretation of the contents. The name of the article series was The Little Scroll. ... ... I am sure the people here are equally opposed to tyranny regardless of which country or race is committing the atrocity at any particular time. ... ... Here is one segment of the Little Scroll series that Trapper posted recently- ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1961009#i   [End]
    • Re: Feeding the Death Star - nfm   Megabite   21mo
  • Image Embedded Video Embedded Video: Border policeman kicks Palestinian child in Hebron   trapper/kcmo   21mo
     
    http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=500633 ... ... ... ... Border policeman kicks Palestinian child in Hebron ... Published yesterday (updated) 02/07/2012 17:18 ... ... ... ... ... Israeli border policemen walk near a building occupied by Jewish settlers ... in the West Bank city of Hebron April 4, 2012. (Reuters/Ronen Zvulun) ... BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) -- An Israeli border police officer kicked a Palestinian child lying on the ground in central Hebron, according to footage released by Israeli rights group B’Tselem on Monday. ... ... A B’Tselem spokeswoman said the group would file a complaint with the Israeli arm ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Israel war crimes   konstantine   23mo
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr2oyODxyKo ...   [End]
  • israel rejects palenstinian unconditional offer of peace ta...   johng   28mo
     
    ... http://news.antiwar.com/2011/12/28/report-israel-rejects-palestinian-offer-for-peace-talks/ ... ... Top Israeli officials surprised everyone today when they revealed that the Palestinian Authority had offered new peace talks without their usual precondition of a settlement freeze, and shocked everybody by revealing that Israel had turned down the offer. ... ... No peace talks have taken place between the two sides since Israel cancelled the last settlement freeze in September 2010, and Israeli diplomats often make a big show of insisting that it is only the “Palestinian refusal” preventing such ta ...   [retrieve this message]
  • can i just say i'm a little surprised?   wen   29mo
     
    http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/208548.html ... ... A contingent from the Occupy Boston protesters marched late Friday to the building that houses the Israeli consulate in Boston and briefly occupied the building’s lobby where they held a sit-in. ... ... ... They chanted various slogans, including, ”hey hey, Ho ho! Israeli apartheid’s got to go!,” ”long live the intifada! intifada intifada!,” ”not another nickel! Not another dime! No more money for Israel’s crimes!,” and ”Viva viva Palestina!”. ... ... The anti-Israel protesters said they aren’t anti-Semites, they are just anti-Zionist or critical of the ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Straight from the horse's mouth.   Newport   29mo
       
      Ultra-Orthodox spitting attacks on Old City clergymen becoming daily ... ... ... ... Ultra-Orthodox young men curse and spit at Christian clergymen in the streets of Jerusalem’s Old City as a matter of routine. In most cases the clergymen ignore the attacks, but sometimes they strike back. Last week the Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court quashed the indictment against an Armenian priesthood student who had punched the man who spat at him. ... ... ... Webmaster’s Commentary:  http://whatreallyhappened.com/fr/node/142653 ... ... ... ... One might have thought, after the horrors of World War II, that the heritag ...   [retrieve this message]
      • I was surprised that OWS is actually speaking out against a...   wen   29mo
         
        I was surprised that OWS is actually speaking out against apartheid with all the criticism that they OWS aren’t organized or just plain uninformed it seems they are moving in a very valid direction to me? ... I suppose it has a life of its own...   [End]
    • Re: can i just say i'm a little surprised?   trapper/kcmo   29mo
       
      thats amazing. about time.   [End]
  • Most offensive protest anti political shirts against israel   jerry brown   4y
     
    I`m thinking for years already how can we take this protest for a new stage. because that all of the words has been told already and it`s not taking us to anywhere. so i looked for the most popular todays fashion and i found that most of most of the people are wearing shirts and i thought, oh here is a place to start. i started looking for t shirts web site with some provocative under the line ideas. i want them to be offensive, targeting to the button line! i found one place, this is not enough but it`s a start. if now of more places please let me know to cezaris.joe@gmail.com ... ... p.s the ...   [retrieve this message]
  • A Letter to Gaza   peggyaus   4y
     
    OK... since your forum has becoming alot about the middle east I thought you wouldn’t mind me posting this recent find. I’m interested to know your thoughts are. What do u think of it? Zionist propaganda? ... ... A letter to GAZA: ... ... http://arabsforisrael.blogspot.com/2010/04/letter-to-gaza.html   [End]
    • Pretty clever spin piece alright  Attempting to essent...   Dquixote1217   4y
       
      Pretty clever spin piece alright  Attempting to essentially absolve Israel of virtually all wrongdoing and place all the blame on the Arabs is a pretty tall order though.  I note that ,  "Arabs for Israel" was founded and is run by Nonie Darwish, an Arab American who converted to Christianity and whose claim to fame is her pro-israel stance and writings. ... ... Contrast her letter with this page from a site founded and run by Jews ("Jews for Justice in the Mideast"): ... ... http://www.ifamericansonlyknew.org/history/origin.html ... ... There may be some A ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Liar Liar Pants on Fire   Newport   4y
     
    Gaza flotilla attack: activist releases new footage ... ... ... ... New footage has emerged of the Israeli assault on a convoy of aid ships headed to Gaza in which nine activists were killed. ... ... The high-quality film was reportedly recorded by New York-based documentary maker Iara Lee aboard the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish ship that bore the brunt of the Israeli attacks. ... ... Israel attempted to confiscate all footage recorded by participants in the Gaza Freedom flotilla – including taking away mobile phones – but Lee managed to smuggle one hour of video out of the country by hiding it in ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Worse than Child Labor...   Newport   4y
       
      Torture Of Palestinian Child Prisoners ”Widespread And Institutionalised” ... ... ... ... Each year around 700 Palestinian children are arrested, interrogated and prosecuted in the Israeli military court system. From 100 testimonies, from different age groups and locations, DCI found that 69% were beaten or kicked and 81% made forced confessions during interrogations, which would commonly take place with the prisoner blindfolded and handcuffed. 32% signed confessions in Hebrew. ... ... DCI also submitted 50 cases of children suffering extreme abuse. These include ’M.S’, 16, who was ”arrest ...   [retrieve this message]
      • You Antisemitist you! ... ...   Megabite   4y
         
        You Antisemitist you! ... ...   [End]
        • You forgot to add Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust.... ... ...   Newport   4y
           
          You forgot to add Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust.... ... ...   ... ... The Banality of Occupation ... ... ... ... While the world has been rightfully focused on the Gaza Flotilla, the banality of occupation goes on. In this video (originally posted on Coteret), a twelve year old boy is arrested in Bil’in. An international activist and the boy’s mother plead with the soldiers to release him, but the soldiers ignore them completely, with the complete power of the occupier. The child was apparently working in his olive groves with his family. As the boy is taken away, you can see, not far a ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Liar Liar Pants on Fire   Newport   4y
       
      Shocking Testimonials from the Mavi Marmara survivors. And one Israeli fembot by Lauren Booth ... ... ... ... One of the most striking trends following the flotilla attack has been how quickly Israeli hasbara is being exposed by internet journalists. The doctored IOF audio clips, where amateurs with mock Arab accents hiss ‘Go back to Aushwitz’ to Israeli naval officers. Well they didn’t take long to pull apart did they? Then there are the (so-pathetic-they’re-almost-funny claims the flotilla was linked to Al Quaeda. I laughed out loud to read in an Israeli paper that human ...   [retrieve this message]
    • All they have to do is open their mouths and lies come out....   Megabite   4y
       
      All they have to do is open their mouths and lies come out. ... ...   [End]
      • I don’t like to make those kind of calls, I leave that up t...   Newport   4y
         
        I don’t like to make those kind of calls, I leave that up to you: ... ...   ... ... It’s Official: There was No Humanitarian Aid on Mavi Marmara ... ... The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has informed Israel’s representatives the world over that there were never any humanitarian supplies or equipment aboard the Mavi Marmara ... ... The equipment includes: ... ... 1. 300 wheelchairs 2. 300 new mobility scooters 3. 100 special mobility scooters for the disabled 4. Hundreds of crutches 5. 250 hospital beds 6. 50 sofas 7. Four tons of medicine 8. 20 tons of clothing, carpets, school bags, cloth and shoes 9. Variou ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Video Embedded Israel Admits To Stealing Palestinian Organs (illegal organ...   #14123   4y  C
     
    Israel Admits To Stealing Palestinian Organs (illegal organs harvesting) ... ... ... ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMHHepvM1Q4&feature=player_embedded   [End]
  • PEACE .... - do it for Your Health !!!!   lifeisfun   4y
     
    Can I be healthy when I am living in a polluted environment? ... Can I be healthy when I am living in an area where people are quarreling? ... ... Same as we discuss at curezone ways to treat migraine, cancer or gallstones, we can discuss here ways for a healthy future in the middle east. ... ... My experience is that the vast majority of Palestinian and Israeli people value (bottom line) friendship and love and want to raise their children in an honorable way. ... ... At my work I experience every day cooperation between people with every possible background (jewish, arab, russian, religious, atheistic, fo ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Burden of proof: Egyptian monotheism tied to Hebrews.   #2040   4y
     
    The monotheistic Hebrews were intermingled with middle eastern populations after fleeing northern India’s massive earthquakes and the Arya/n invasion and plundering that brought polytheism, now Hinduism, to India. Ancient cultures were monotheistic, with Egypt’s Ptah, and China’s Shang Ti being typical exemplars. Overthrowing landmarks, i.e., taking land, was common in the cannibal polytheists of the ”patriarchal revolution” of men centering in gang-like lodges and longhouses and turning sacred women into temple prostitutes and killing their children. ... ... Overthrowing landmarks was a viola ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ”That Jesus Christ fulfilled the hundreds of prophecies for...   #128725   4y
       
      ”That Jesus Christ fulfilled the hundreds of prophecies foretelling Messiah’s coming, even the one giving the exact day of His formal entrance into Jerusalem, is not disputed. .......... Embracing the law of unbridled love of God, and love of neighbor as self, takes only common sense and if that’s the modern legacy of monotheism, it is well employed in being the basis for granting Americans inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” ... ... Where are these prophecies? Please give chapter and verse. ... Which part of genocide fulfills the law of unbrindled love? ... Do other ...   [retrieve this message]
  • US Tax payers,Israel is the expensive problem   eldura   5y
     
    Here’s some news. ... The main Problem in the mideast is Israel with Arab thickness not far behind. Israel wants to setup an exclusive Jewish state. ... Problem,Their mythology is FLAWED:A land without a people for a people without a land? ... There most certainlty was a people in Palestine,Christian,Muslims and Jews. ... Moving non Jews out of ther homes proved not be easy for the colonial Zionist movement.After the 1948 UN partition better armed Jewish forces moved quickly to dislodge non jews,piosining wells and masscare of civillians.Mythology ofcourse spun at the time:57 Arab states attack weak ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Protesters call for end to Israeli human rights abuses. Tha...   #3506   5y
     
    That’s the headline that should be reported but Zionist owned media only makes Israeli enemies look bad to further esacalate their desire to go to war with Iran. ... ... ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090725/ap_on_re_eu/iran_global_protest   [End]
  • Judaism's dirty little secret   #3506   5y
     
    I’ve never met a more racist people than religious Jews and I’ve lived in big cities for many years. They consider everyone in the world that are not Jewish to be animals. They openly refer to us as ”Goyim” in public conversations. I can testify to this from personal experience. Even in big cities they don’t assimilate and only associate with others like them. I think organized religion is the root of all evil! I find it absurd that fundamentalist Christians want to assist Israel in fulfilling a Mideast land grab in order to fulfill the false prophecy of Armeggeden and Jesus second coming. ...   [retrieve this message]
  • It seems like starvation is the preffered method used by Je...   #3506   5y
     
    It seems like starvation is the preffered method used by Jews to kill their enemies. In Russia the Jewish Bolsheviks killed 30 million Ukrainians by blocking all food shipments. Today the Israelis are starving 1.5 million Palestinians by using a blockade also.   [End]
    • The Hamas Ideology of Hatred and Genocide   peggyaus   5y
       
      From: http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=822 ... ... The Hamas Ideology of Hatred and Genocide: Islamic supremacy over the world, destroying Israel and Jews, promoting terror and violence ... ... By: Itamar Marcus ... ... ... Introduction ... In light of the escalating conflict between Hamas and Israel, it’s important to review the Hamas ideology and understand how Hamas views the conflict. ... ... Hamas ideology, as expressed in the Hamas Charter, sees Hamas as part of the worldwide Muslim Brotherhood (Article 2) that seeks world Islamic domination. Israel is said to exist on territory that is ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Who stole the land in the name of false mythological religi...   #3506   5y
         
        Who stole the land in the name of false mythological religious writings? The Bible is a cultural mythological interpretation of God. God NEVER chose the Jewish people! Jewish people wrote the Bible choosing themselves! Obviously they have delusions of grandeur and narcissistic tendencies to believe that they are above everyone else in the human race! Actually if you study history all peoples in the region lived together in peace before 1948. When the Zionists stole the land and kicked out the indigenous population that caused all the problems we still have today!   [End]
        • Islamic Expansion and Imperialism   peggyaus   5y
           
          The fight which much of current media portrays as being between Israeli’s and Palestinians is actually the struggle between Islamic imperialism and its expansion into the west. ... ... ’You stole our land’ is an old catch cry for Muslims who lay claim to the whole world, not just Israel: ... ... ... http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/the_truth_about_islamic_crusad.html ... ... ... ... Islam already occupies 99 percent of middle eastern land and will not stop until Israel is taken; nor will it stop its colonialism of the west as seen in Europe in current times. They will use lies as tactics, such as the a ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Video Embedded More Antisemitism....   Newport   5y
     
    ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...   [End]
  • Criminalizing criticism of Israel:   #54423   5y
     
    ... Criminalizing Criticism Of Israel ... By Paul Craig Roberts ... Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary ... of the Treasury in the Reagan administration ... 5-9-9 ... ... ... On October 16, 2004, President George W. Bush signed the Israel Lobby’s bill, the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act. This legislation requires the US Department of State to monitor anti-semitism world wide. ... ... To monitor anti-semitism, it has to be defined. What is the definition? Basically, as defined by the Israel Lobby and Abe Foxman, it boils down to any criticism of Israel or Jews. ... ... Rahm Israel Emanuel hasn’t been mopping f ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Israeli war crimes   BlackMagic   5y
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIihOUYByBY ...   [End]
  • western wall demolished by israeli troops   Newport   5y  C
     
    WESTERN WALL DEMOLISHED BY ISRAELI TROOPS ... ... Early Saturday morning, Israeli troops entered the Western Wall Plaza in Jerusalem’s Old City and cleared the area of it’s usual Shabbat worshipers. They then proceeded to demolish the centuries old structure. ... ... Apparently they were given orders to demolish any structure that was built without a permit in East Jerusalem. King Herod was responsible for the construction of the wall around 1900 BCE. He neglected to obtain the proper building permits. ... ... ... ... ...   [End]
    • Greetings for Israel   Michealjones   5y
       
      I would like to extend my greetings to the people of [B][url=http://samsonblinded.org/news/Israel [/url][/B] ... on her 61st independence day on the May 14th. Israel’s existence has been full of struggle and aggression and all at the cost of innocent lives.I love Israel and wish she can be at peace someday!   [End]
  • Image Embedded Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for...   ilanar49   5y  C
     
    As a first-time viewer of curezone, I’ll have to think about this site. ... ... Do you sanction anti-Semitic and anti-Israel postings? Do you sanctioin political postings at all? I thought this was for information about healing... ... ... I opened up your web-site and here is what I was greeted with!!! Someone proposing to boycott Israeli products. WHAT is that all about?? ... ... ...   [End]
    • Webmaster, why not create an gaza debate forum?   blues   5y
       
      There are people posting their views on different forums about the conflict in gaza. I am sure there are some people that would prefer to not know what these people think about that issue when they are going to a forum to get advice about a particular health issue. You don’t even have to read the thread, just the title to know the jist of the message. Knowing that a person has a totally different view from yours on such contenuous issue could make some people think twice on the validity of their health advice. ... ... Why not just create a forum for the israeli/palestinian conflict and just mov ...   [retrieve this message]
      • He did...   alikat   5y
         
        http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=455 ... ... It looks like people either don’t bother to look for what forums are already in existence, or they would just rather polute the  support forums.  At any rate, the only ones who can move posts from the forums that have an owner are the owners themselves.  It’s up to them what they allow or get involved into in the first place. ...   [End]
        • There you go folks   blues   5y
           
          Hash out the israel/palestian debate in the forum created for it. ... ... ... Thanks for the link alikat. Had no idea the forum existed since no one was posting in it for eight months.   [End]
    • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate...   mo123   5y
       
      there is a new thread in the conspiracy forum about Israel hiring ... An Army of bloggers to combat anti zionist posting. ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1350986#i ... ... ... I wonder if this is what this is really about? ... ... As Muslims we are seeking a peaceful end to the war thru financial sanctions. This was a piece from the newspaper not something I have written. If you want to pick on me then why not post of the tons of threads I have written about forgiving Israel and not being revengeful towards innocent people. I find that with the hundreds of post on people disliking the gov’t yo ...   [retrieve this message]
    • It is called democracy.   Webmaster   5y
       
      Dear Ilana, ... ... It is called democracy. ... ... ... In a trully democatic country you are allowed to expess your opinion about politics of any country, including countries that are considered to be frineds of USA. ... ... ... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110404103148AAYZsLN ... ... ... ... Is USA a trully democatic country? No ... ... ... On CureZone: ... ... It is ok to criticize government and politicians of any country, including but not limiting to USA, Russia, UK, Israel, Palestina, Canada, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, China, North Korea etc ... ... BUT, ... you have to take equl share on both sides. ... ... You can ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Freedom of speech? Ever heard about it?   mo123   5y
         
        thank you so much Webmaster. This is so appreciated to be supported by you. ... ... SARA   [End]
        • Freedom of Speech? Support or Debate?   Webmaster   5y
           
          Sara, ... ... The appropriate forums for any message related to Gaza War would be (should be!): ... ... Palestine : Israel ... Politics Debate ... Conspiracy Forum ... History ... Terrorism Debate ... War Crimes Debate ... ... ... We also have many other forums where Political debates are allowed: ... ... Iraq War Debate ... Abortion Debate ... Gay/Lesbian Marriage ... Courts & Justice ... Islam Debate ... Gun Control Debate ... Death Penalty ... ... Why is it inappropriate to post political content into a support forum? ... ... "Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat ...   [retrieve this message]
          • All Gaza posting has been removed from my forum. ... ... S...   mo123   5y
             
            All Gaza posting has been removed from my forum. ... ... SARA   [End]
          • Video Embedded Personally Speaking...   UserX   5y
             
            I have NEVER agreed with the separation of forums into Support Forums and Debate Forums... nor do I agree that spiritual, social, economic and political issues can be separated from health issues. We are HOLISTIC beings and every aspect of life contributes to our overall health and wellbeing. ... ... The reason that I have posted a great deal of the subject matter that is on my forum is to invite DISCUSSION about these issues. As adults... we should ALL be able to engage in a reasonable exchange of opinions, ideas, creative solutions, etc.... that just MAY contribute to the RESOLUTION of so man ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Personally Speaking...   Newport   5y
               
              I have NEVER agreed with the separation of forums into Support Forums and Debate Forums ... ... I know I am six days late to this but I totally agree that support and debate MUST be kept separate. I don’t want someone in a dire physical\mental state to have to even think about some of the things posted in the debate forums. ... They should feel save clicking the Support Mosaic link... ... ...   [End]
              • ... Hey Newport, ... This is a touchy subject. What O was s...   #69242   5y
                 
                ... Hey Newport, ... This is a touchy subject. What O was saying was that support and debate forums should be one and the same - what you believe is that they should be kept separate. In my experience, there are arguements made for both. There are plenty of newbies who come along who probably would be overwhelmed by a free for all support forum, yet the drawback of the concept (as we know it now) of a support forum is that most tenets can’t be challenged. And we all know the amount of bull that gets slung around here (me hiding off in the corner....)   [End]
                • bull that gets slung around here ... ... Doesn’t compare t...   Newport   5y
                   
                  bull that gets slung around here ... ... Doesn’t compare to the full time word smiths that would completely destroy the whole point of this site...then again that might be why it is being suggested. ... ... Perhaps we should contact the FDA to get an OK for what can be posted...you on board for that? ...   [End]
                  • Newport, ... I am only putting forth my views on what you (...   #69242   5y
                     
                    Newport, ... I am only putting forth my views on what you (and O) were discussing... The concept of the separation of the debate and support forums. As I said, I can see both sides of the coin. There is no perfect answer. I actually support the separation. However... it comes at a cost. Which should be seen by everyone, even if it is warranted. And that is that the freedom of expression/information is stifled. Support forums are a one party line of information. That is a fact. I will not argue that in some (maybe most) cases that is for the better - but it is still a one party line. And that ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • You're Out Of Line.   UserX   5y
                     
                    ”Doesn’t compare to the full time word smiths that would completely destroy the whole point of this site...then again that might be why it is being suggested.” ... ... Newport... I would suggest that you think long and hard about that... and the implications that you are making. ... ... As B&G pointed... and I stated very clearly... there is PLENTY of unsupportive garbage in the Support Forums... and an awful lot of it comes in the form or products that are being peddled on this website all over the place! I have said this loud and clear... JUST because something is natural... be it a supplement or ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • because you are going to feel INCREDIBLY FOOLISH when I REA...   Newport   5y
                       
                      because you are going to feel INCREDIBLY FOOLISH when I REALLY start talking about what I KNOW! ... ... You been drinking? ... ... ...   [End]
                      • Have I Been Drinking?   UserX   5y
                         
                        No Newport. There’s no alcohol allowed on my reservation at the moment. ... ... Would you care to comment again?   [End]
                      • Re: You're Out Of Line.   FromOz   5y
                         
                        This is getting out of control. Keep it nice and polite guys! What’s this threatening? If you’re trying to be funny, I’m sure no posters are laughing with you, but at you.   [End]
      • Re: Freedom of speech? What is Freedom?   blubruddah   5y
         
        Then by this description or perhaps this should be in the TOS to remind certain persons that have the power, given by you, that there is freedome on CZ ... ... But I know better, not only is there not freedom of speech, but there are flame wars with the same character (s) involved and you allowed it, you allowed it and joined in. ”Hallo” in this very forum ... ... It is a pipe dream of CZ that states one thing in TOS and quite another in practice and you know this but NEVER accept your own responsibility within this context ... ... It is always - Oh we have to let them there is freedonm of speech ... ... But ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Video Embedded Care To Comment: WHAT Is THIS About?   UserX   5y
       
      ... ... And you can give it a rest with a the talk of anti-semitism! The inclusion of Zionism is the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act of 2004 was written by one of the primary members... along with others in his administration... that stand to profit... along with Israel and the other ZIONISTS... from continuing these idiotic wars! ... ... http://www.house.gov/waxman/pdfs/pdf_hr_4230.pdf ... ... ... Zionism is a POLITICAL MOVEMENT... ... ... http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/2000_2009/2001/8/Zionism+-+an+Introduction.htm ... ... ... NOT a race or religion... ... ... http://www.realnews247.com/spec_rpt_jews_against_zi ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Image Embedded Video Embedded Well? Are You REALLY Interested In Healing?   UserX   5y
       
      How about THIS? ... ... ... ... ... ... And how about HIM? ... ... ... ... ... ... ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu ... ... ... http://www.vanunu.com/ ... ... ... http://www.vanunu.org/ ... ... ... http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/mordechai-vanunu-photos-of-dimona/ ... ... ... IRAQ DIDN’T HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION... ISRAEL DOES!!!!! ... ... ... ... ... ...   [End]
      • Re: Well? Are You REALLY Interested In Healing?   mo123   5y
         
        O, you are just fabulous. too bad there are not more like you. ... ... SARA   [End]
        • Thanks Sara... but I have very little to do with it. I am f...   UserX   5y
           
          Thanks Sara... but I have very little to do with it. I am forever stumbling upon these things at just the opportune time.... and have a mouth that is just too damn big to keep shut! As for there being more... they are rapidly rising in numbers because any sane person with an ounce of humanity wouldn’t sit back and allow what is going on in Gaza... AND WITH THE FIRST NATIONS PEOPLE... or any other group that is the target of GENOCIDE... to happen without speaking out against it!   [End]
          • O, this message is a threat to curezone. Notice her wordin...   mo123   5y
             
            O, this message is a threat to curezone. Notice her wording, do your sponsors know? so in other words change or I will notify them. I find it amazing that she did not post the entire thread. Newport reports it is illegal to boycott in America and my response was with a list of reasons not to consume these products as they are bad for your health and we laugh it off. ... ... Muslims are doing a peaceful process, while Israel is committing genocide we are simply not buying their products. The best way to attack Israel is thru money. They are a money nation. So we did this with Denmark, and ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Iran will never attack Israel....   rokybird   5y
               
              The US will never attack .... ... The Russians will never invade.... ... The French will never attack..... ... The Germans will never attack.... ... The English will never attack ,invade,colonize.... ... The Portuguese will never attack,invade,colonize.... ... The Spanish will never attack, invade,colonize... ... The Japanese will never attack, invade ,colonize.... ... The Chinese will never attack ,invade ,colonize.... ... The Koreans will never attack, invade , colonize.... ... The Serbs will never attack,invade,...... ... The Christians will never attack,invade colonize.... ... The Muslims will never attack,invade,coloniz ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Well in all seriousness, Iran will never attack Israel. Ira...   Megabite   5y
                 
                Well in all seriousness, Iran will never attack Israel. Iran would certainly DEFEND themselves by striking back if Israel attacked them, I’m sure. ... ... Who wouldn’t? ... ... Aggressor - Defender. It’s important to be aware of who is in which position because it makes all the difference in accountability. ... ...   [End]
            • Image Embedded Genocide Is Genocide.   UserX   5y
               
              Yea Sara... I know. And when I post messages like I did in this case... it is with the full awareness that the person is most likely not going to return and has no interest in having a discussion. The reason why I post sometimes is because I know that OTHER people will read the thread and that way they will have more to think about. ... ... It was very apparent to me that it was meant as a thinly veiled threat... nothing like a little economic blackmail to try and get people to come around to your way of thinking. Yea.. I got it. ... ... I had not seen your post about the boycott... so I had not mad ...   [retrieve this message]
              • O, I really love your passion. No, it is not just about me...   mo123   5y
                 
                O, I really love your passion. No, it is not just about me but I am part of the scheme. I suffer nothing compared to others such as your ancestors or mine. I feel so passionate about the plight of the Muslims not to create fear mongering but to tell of the genocide of the innocent. ... ... I was a constant target in America, O, not because of my color and I am white but because I dare to wear a scarf. I had people walk off the register and refuse to serve me, I had people who tried to kill me, I was run over with shopping carts and many other horific things. ... ... During the Oklahoma bombing, ...   [retrieve this message]
    • People are no good.....   RR Educational rokybird   5y
       
      but some are worse than others. There are a small number of Neo Nazis here who post their holocaust denial stuff they copy and paste from Neo Nazi websites. They are sick people with an evil agenda. ... ... Unfortunately as we know sickness is often contagious and their version of a cure for themselves is the murder of everyone who doesnt agree with them. ... ... The Neo Nazis here in the US have in fact been used by the NWO (New World Order),to further their agenda of the feudalization of the USA. ... ... The NWO has done this by claiming that anyone who defends white america is like the Neo Nazis;an e ...   [retrieve this message]
  • israel is finally cleaning house.   John McCain 2008   5y
     
    wars are needed in this world, you know. yes. you can only accept missiles fired into your marketplaces and suicidal human beings crossing in so many times before you stand up straight and tall and attack your enemies. this seems so crystal clear...anybody not see the simplicity of it? the difference between israel when it fights and the usa when they fight is that israel understands civilians will be killed but the greater good is at stake. america dilutes its missions because they care too much about civilian losses. thus, putting our soldiers at a disadvantage. this is simple st ...   [retrieve this message]
    • war is not necessary and every human being deserves the dig...   #2853   5y
       
      war is not necessary and every human being deserves the dignity to live without it. those that shoot missiles and drop bombs do so because they believe it is necessary but they are wrong. the schoolyard bully is not a necessary evil but they end up starting the fights that others have to end. the bullies are the children who were not loved as a child and not ever told to treat others with kindness. the general and uber racist politicians flock to wars like cockroaches flock to grime and grit. it takes much more grit to be peaceful in a world where the schoolyard bullies drop bombs and shoo ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Those who define themselves on things which they have littl...   #89866   5y
       
      Those who define themselves on things which they have little or no control over, such as race/nationality/heritage and even religion, must resort to labeling others the same way. This is how you get true racism/wars/discrimination towards others and self destructive false attachments and loss of identity and authenticity. ... ... Never give yourself (or others) credit (or blame) for things not personally achieved. ... ...   [End]
    • You call it house cleaning~~ ... ... http://www.sundayher...   Zoebess   5y
       
      You call it house cleaning~~ ... ... http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2479028.0.gaza_ghetto_is_destroyed_and_the_world_stays_silent.php ... ... I call it a holocaust~~ ... ... Truth is also a victim of war. You ... seem more than ready to eat lies ... and try to shove it down our throats ... by saying how good it is. ... ... No, its not~~ ... ... blessings, ... Zoe ... ... -_- ... ...   [End]
    • Having a ”huge trust fund” has certianly shaped your views ...   #89866   5y
       
      Having a ”huge trust fund” has certianly shaped your views towards others. ... ... What if... ... ... You didn’t have a ”huge trust fund”, your family was forced into a ghetto, your economic livelihood was strangled, your land was leveled to prevent you from growing food and imported food was intentionaly cut off, medical assistance and international relief efforts were blocked, and a web of deception and lies were spread around the world by a massive propaganda machine to make everyone think that it was YOU who brought your suffering to your oppressor and what they did to you was merely self defens ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Any arab will tell you, as they have told me; the arab worl...   peggyaus   5y
       
      Any arab will tell you, as they have told me; the arab world does not want Israel in the middle east. It is a real shame with the incredible resources the arab world has; that nothing is done to help their own people in Gaza. ... ...   [End]
    • War & violence: the 1st & last resorts of bullies & moral c...   Dquixote1217   5y
       
      wars are needed in this world, you know ... ... What exactly are they needed for?  Greed? Avarice?  Lust for power and control? Rape and pillage? Bloodlust?  Religious zealotry? Subjugation of the weak by the strong? ... ... War and violence are the first and last resorts of bullies and moral cowards. ... ... If Israel is so correct to respond to a total of 4 deaths for all of 2008 (before the Israeli offensive) due to the ragtag rockets by killing over 400 Pasestinians and wounding thousands more in a matter of days, why is world condemnation almost universal outside the ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Edited   #28187   5y
         
        The pyramid of population incr   [End]
        • Image Embedded Maybe the Israeli land grabbers should give back some of th...   Dquixote1217   5y
           
          The pyramid of population increase will insure that there is no peace anywhere. ... ... More likely the pyramid of the Iraeli conquests of Arab lands will insure there is no peace anywhere. ... ... ... ... (click image to enlarge) ... ... And if you think that is the end of the Israeli land grab, think again: ... ... ... ... A number of discrepant versions of Biblical borders of the Land of Israel, which rabbinical authorities interpret as ideally belonging to the Jewish state, are in circulation. The most far-reaching among them include the following areas within these borders: in the south, all of Sinai and a ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Edited   #28187   5y
             
            """From the Cabala: ... The duty   [End]
            • Re: Maybe the Israeli land grabbers should give back some o...   Dquixote1217   5y
               
              ... Foreword ... ... ... Sometime in the late 1950s, that world-class gossip and occasional historian, ... ... John F. Kennedy, told me how, in 1948, Harry S. Truman had been pretty much ... ... abandoned by everyone when he came to run for president. Then an American ... ... Zionist brought him two million dollars in cash, in a suitcase, aboard his whistle-stop ... ... campaign train. ’That’s why our recognition of Israel was rushed through so fast.’ As ... ... neither Jack nor I was an antisemite (unlike his father and my grandfather) we took ... ... this to be just another funny story about Truman and the serene cor ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Anti-semitism or a 5000 year history of screwing up?   Dquixote1217   5y
               
              From a post at antiwar.com ... ... Sadly, the Jews have a comprehensive five-thousand year record of screwing up. They go someplace, settle in, do real well for themselves and everyone else. And then something happens, and they’re out of town, on the run, just steps ahead of the lynch mob,…if they’re lucky. First it was the Egyptians, then the Romans, then, during the dark ages, the Roman Catholic church. Then all of Europe. Then Spain and Portugal during the inquisition. Then most recently, the Nazis wipe out ninety percent of Europe’s Jews. ... ... See a pattern here? Bu ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Mark Twain:Concerning The Jews   rokybird   5y
                 
                Mark Twain:The Jews are persecuted because they are smarter and more educated than Christians and they use their brains to obtain money and power. ... They hate you if your clever,they despise a fool.-John Lennon. ... ... When it comes to capitalist business it is the survival of the fittest. The second best usually doesnt survive. So what would the above poster have the Jews do, help their business adversaries put themselves out of business? RB ... ... ... Title: Concerning The Jews ... Author: Mark Twain [Titles by Twain] ... ... Some months ago I published a magazine article[1] descriptive of a remarkable ...   [retrieve this message]
                • When it comes to capitalist business it is the survival of ...   Dquixote1217   5y
                   
                  When it comes to capitalist business it is the survival of the fittest. The second best usually doesnt survive. ... ... When it comes to capitalism it is most often survival of the most ruthless and corrupt.  At any rate, one can hardly ascribe success in commerce and capitalism as the sole reason for the persecution of the Jews for 5000 years.  ... ... So what would the above poster have the Jews do, help their business adversaries put themselves out of business? ... ... I would suggest that perhaps they would be better served by contenting themselves with being both successful b ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • An eye for an eye, makes the whole world blind   csb   5y
                     
                    An eye for an eye, makes the whole world blind   [End]
                  • Edited   #28187   5y
                     
                    Mark Twain:Anti Christian ... ... Y   [End]
                    • Read the book   Dquixote1217   5y
                       
                      Twain defended everyone, including Satan himself.  At any rate, whatever Twains homilies and apologies, hwe was around over 100 years ago and did not have the benefit of the past century plus of Jewish history, nor was likely aware of the revelations detailed in the book I recommended you and anyone else who would apologize for Jewish leaders’ activities should read: ... ... http://iamthewitness.com/books/Israel.Shahak/Jewish.History.Jewish%20Religion-The.Weight.of.Three.Thousand.Years.pdf ... ... As noted earlier, the book was written by an Israeli Jew of indisputable cha ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Ted Turner, Nelson Rockefeller, Jacques Cousteau, Prince Ph...   #2853   5y
           
          ”A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” ... - Ted Turner - CNN founder and UN supporter - quoted in the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, June ’96 ... ... Ted Turner used his Southern charm to calm worries that he longed for 95% decline from current population levels during a question and answer session– as the billionaire eugenicist was quoted in Audubon magazine more than a decade ago. ... ... “That’s not really true,” Turner told members of Philly 9/11 Truth. He instead cited 2 billion as the target– a mere 2/3 reduction of the human population ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Edited   #28187   5y
             
            mass production,fossil fuels,m   [End]
        • Ca Ca RB! - The Myth Of Scarcity...   UserX   5y
           
          http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/783 ...   [End]
          • Edited   #28187   5y
             
            Without all the modern technol   [End]
      • i notice, dq, you always weep for "the other side"...hmmmmm...   John McCain 2008   5y
         
        strange that one so bright tends to always side with the enemy. i suppose enemies need love, too.   [End]
        • I admit to having an affinity for the oppressed and downtro...   Dquixote1217   5y
           
          I admit to having an affinity for the oppressed and downtrodden, but I would still say it depends on who you define as "the enemy". Do you look upon  someone who would spy on you, steal your military and technology secrets, buy off your political leaders, wrest control of your money and finances, and attack you both overtly and covertly as a "friend"? ... ... DQ ... ...   ...   [End]
  • Russia calls on Israel to lift blockade   Newport   6y
     
    Russia calls on Israel to lift blockade ... Russia called on Israel to end its blockade of Gaza and allow aid to reach the isolated strip. ... A senior Russian diplomat made the statement Thursday during a meeting of the United Nations Security Council. ... On Monday, Israel’s navy turned back a Libyan vessel carrying humanitarian aid bound for Gaza. ... Webmaster’s Commentary:  http://whatreallyhappened.com/ ... Russia has picked up the mantle of moral leadership the US threw away. ... ... ... ... ...   [End]
    • Soooo ashamed that America considers israel an ally. Its ti...   #36276   6y
       
      Soooo ashamed that America considers israel an ally. Its times like these I fantasize about being a flying, indestructible super hero that’ll come to the rescue.... Shame shame shame. Makes me sick to my stomache. The asses in power deserve vomit in their shoes for allowing such inhumanity.   [End]
      • Revoking Israel’s UN Membership ... The Gaza Strip is now...   Newport   6y
         
        Revoking Israel’s UN Membership ... The Gaza Strip is now the largest concentration camp in the world. The situation grows steadily more insufferable for the 1.5 million Palestinians who live there. Deliveries of food, medicine and fuel are made difficult or stopped altogether. Child malnutrition is increasing. Water supplies and drainage have ceased to function. Children die for lack of healthcare. Tunnels to Egypt, dug by hand, are the only breathing space. Journalists and diplomats are denied entry. Israel is planning more military efforts. ... ...   [End]
  • Look at what these savages get away with   #3506   6y
     
    Look at what this democracy of Satan gets away with! ... ... http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/230508Reuters.htm ...   [End]
    • Israel continues to get shelled by Gaza on a daily basis an...   kmtina   5y
       
      Israel continues to get shelled by Gaza on a daily basis and Hamas continues to endanger its own civilian population when it launches those rockets from hospitals, churches, and schools in heavily populated areas. http://samsonblinded.org/news/rocket-from-gaza-hits-israeli-school-8227 ... At the same time, the EU and our country continues to provide $1.5 billion in foreign aid to Gaza when the economy is collapsing.   [End]
  • Professor Finkelstein arrested in that fake deomocracy call...   #3506   6y
     
    Why do American taxpayers put up with giving billions of dollars to this terrorist state called Israel? ... ... ... http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/norman-finkelstein-arrested-in-israel/ ...   [End]
  • ????   #91513   6y
     
    ::::What I don’t understand is:::: ... ... WHY THE ARAB COUNTRIES DON’T ABSORB THE REMAINING PALESTINIANS. ... eND OF prOBLEm oR wOULd iT bE?   [End]
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