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  • Can Jews Be Saved? / Since when is telling the truth considered anti-sem... by opihikaobob   69 days  235
     
    www.realjewnews.com/ ... ... Hopefully some . ... ... Take Hollywood for example - have you ever seen a movie from those -umm,   people, that doesn’t curse God or Jesus? ... ... Even their comedy’s are all worse than juvenile bathroom humor - pay attention ! As Sun Tuz  would say ”Know Thy Enemy”. ... ... Pay attention to what jews consider funny- as they intend to infect your children’s minds with  their  filth and violent behavior. ...   [End]
    • Image Embedded Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by befurther   69 days  259
       
      According to an article published at the World Zionist Organization’s (WZO) website: ... ... ... " REMARKABLY, the Khazars, a people of Turkic origin, converted to the Jewish religion sometime in the 9th century, beginning with the royal house and spreading gradually among the general populace. Judaism is now known to have been more widespread among the Khazar inhabitants of the Khazar kingdom than was previously thought. In 1999, Russian archaeologists announced that they had successfully reconstructed a Khazarian vessel from the Don River region, revealing 4 inscriptions of th ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by opihikaobob   67 days  237
         
        ... iamthewitness.com/books/Douglas.Reed/The.Controversy.of.Zion/17.The.Destructive.Mission.htm ... ...   ... ... THE DESTRUCTIVE MISSION ... ...  The study of hundreds of volumes, during many years, gradually brought realization that the essential truth of the story of Zion is all summed-up in Mr. Maurice Samuel’s twenty-one words: "We Jews, the destroyers, will remain the destroyer forever . . . nothing that the Gentiles will do will meet our needs and demands". ... ... At first hearing they sound vainglorious or neurotic, but incre ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by befurther   67 days  160
           
          " "All history" means different things to the Jew and the Gentile. To the Gentile it means, approximately, the annals of the Christian era and any that extend further back before they begin to fade into legend and myth." ... ... This statement fLIES in the face of logic. The author believes they know what something means to someone else, how quaint. ...   [End]
          • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by opihikaobob   67 days  219
             
              "All history" means different things to the Jew and the Gentile. To the Gentile it means, approximately, the annals of the Christian era and any that extend further back before they begin to fade into legend and myth." ... ... I would say that the word    " approximately" means just that.,  anyway further investigation at   iamthewitness.com/books/Douglas.Reed/The.Controversy.of.Zion/index.htm   would provide further elucidation ... ...   ... ...   ... ...   ... ... iamthewitness.com/books/ ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by befurther   66 days  151
               
              Douglas Reed has some interesting info, I’ll give you that. However I find there is an air of presumption in his work. Which definitely doesn’t help his arguement. ...   [End]
            • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by befurther   66 days  240
               
              A book on that site that I would more likely recommend would be. ... ... The 13th Tribe by Arthur Koestler ... ... http://iamthewitness.com/books/Arthur.Koestler/The.13th.Tribe.htm ... ... RISE ... ... 1 ... ... ABOUT the time when Charlemagne was crowned Emperor of the West, the eastern confines of Europe between the Caucasus and the Volga were ruled by a Jewish state, known as the Khazar Empire. At the peak of its power, from the seventh to the tenth centuries AD, it played a significant part in shaping the destinies of mediaeval, and consequently of modern, Europe. The Byzantine Emperor and historian, ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Image Embedded Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by opihikaobob   66 days  438
                 
                I don’t like to to post this stuff , but the truth must come out. ... "After the lifetime of Jesus the Old Testament, with the New Testament, was translated into Latin by Saint Jerome, when both came to be regarded by the Church as of equal divine authority and as sections of one Book." ... ... A modern encyclopaedia. ... ... THE TORAH ... ... "And the Lord spake unto me, saying. . . This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of thee . ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by befurther   65 days  135
                   
                  "You decide what you would rather  have .THE NEW TESTAMENT or THE TORAH" ... ... Is that like choosing Coke or Pepsi? Republicrat or Democklicken? ... ... That’s quite a salvo of info, so much so that it is almost unintelligeable...I guess I’ll see where it goes. Collectivising people that don’t exist as such could likely be seen as intellectually dishonest. ... ... It occurs to me that, cloking ones self as a Jew while doing such misdeeds would be a great way to destroy a culture. It works on many levels. For example a satan Worshipper might become an tele-evangelist to fool naive ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by opihikaobob   65 days  138
                     
                      ... ... Is that like choosing Coke or Pepsi? Republicrat or Democklicken? Actually it’s like choosing life or death imho- one is all about love thy neighbor (New Testament) the other is about utterly destroying anyone who is not a jew ... ...   ... ...  "That’s quite a salvo of info, so much so that it is almost unintelligeable...I guess I’ll see where it goes. Collectivising people that don’t exist as such could likely be seen as intellectually dishonest." ... ... Yes, it is a lot of info, but that is what it takes to be informed on a subject "Collectivis ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by befurther   63 days  117
                       
                      " Actually it’s like choosing life or death imho- one is all about love thy neighbor (New Testament) the other is about utterly destroying anyone who is not a jew" ... ... Well I never saw it that way. If you ask me, the New Testament is simply a reaffirmation of the Old Testament. ... ... "Yes , I agree with that statment - sort of a false flagg kind of thing, however who in this case is being cloaked?" ... ... Evil People. The synagogue of Satan ...   [End]
                      • Re: Antisemitic: Khazars convert to Judaism by opihikaobob   63 days  146
                         
                        "Well I never saw it that way. If you ask me, the New Testament is simply a reaffirmation of the Old Testament." ... ... Sorry to say I disagree with you, It is a new testament and in many respects the old has passed away. ... ... I will try to find the scriptural verse to back up this statement as I remember one somwhere , but don’t have the time right now to look , but whenI find it (if) I will [paste it here . ... ...   ...   [End]
  • Israel war crimes by konstantine   12 mon  937
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr2oyODxyKo ...   [End]
  • Most offensive protest anti political shirts against israel by jerry brown   31 mon  2,448
     
    I`m thinking for years already how can we take this protest for a new stage. because that all of the words has been told already and it`s not taking us to anywhere. so i looked for the most popular todays fashion and i found that most of most of the people are wearing shirts and i thought, oh here is a place to start. i started looking for t shirts web site with some provocative under the line ideas. i want them to be offensive, targeting to the button line! i found one place, this is not enough but it`s a start. if now of more places please let me know to cezaris.joe@gmail.com ... ... p.s the ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Video Embedded Israel Admits To Stealing Palestinian Organs (illegal organs harvesting)... by #14123   3 year  1,821  Palestine : Israel / War Crimes / Politics D
     
    Israel Admits To Stealing Palestinian Organs (illegal organs harvesting) ... ... ... ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMHHepvM1Q4&feature=player_embedded   [End]
  • PEACE .... - do it for Your Health !!!! by lifeisfun   3 year  685
     
    Can I be healthy when I am living in a polluted environment? ... Can I be healthy when I am living in an area where people are quarreling? ... ... Same as we discuss at curezone ways to treat migraine, cancer or gallstones, we can discuss here ways for a healthy future in the middle east. ... ... My experience is that the vast majority of Palestinian and Israeli people value (bottom line) friendship and love and want to raise their children in an honorable way. ... ... At my work I experience every day cooperation between people with every possible background (jewish, arab, russian, religious, atheistic, fo ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Burden of proof: Egyptian monotheism tied to Hebrews. by #2040   3 year  2,560
     
    The monotheistic Hebrews were intermingled with middle eastern populations after fleeing northern India’s massive earthquakes and the Arya/n invasion and plundering that brought polytheism, now Hinduism, to India. Ancient cultures were monotheistic, with Egypt’s Ptah, and China’s Shang Ti being typical exemplars. Overthrowing landmarks, i.e., taking land, was common in the cannibal polytheists of the ”patriarchal revolution” of men centering in gang-like lodges and longhouses and turning sacred women into temple prostitutes and killing their children. ... ... Overthrowing landmarks was a viola ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Burden of proof: Egyptian monotheism tied to Hebrews. by #128725   3 year  3,095
       
      ”That Jesus Christ fulfilled the hundreds of prophecies foretelling Messiah’s coming, even the one giving the exact day of His formal entrance into Jerusalem, is not disputed. .......... Embracing the law of unbridled love of God, and love of neighbor as self, takes only common sense and if that’s the modern legacy of monotheism, it is well employed in being the basis for granting Americans inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” ... ... Where are these prophecies? Please give chapter and verse. ... Which part of genocide fulfills the law of unbrindled love? ... Do other ...   [retrieve this message]
  • US Tax payers,Israel is the expensive problem by eldura   4 year  1,915
     
    Here’s some news. ... The main Problem in the mideast is Israel with Arab thickness not far behind. Israel wants to setup an exclusive Jewish state. ... Problem,Their mythology is FLAWED:A land without a people for a people without a land? ... There most certainlty was a people in Palestine,Christian,Muslims and Jews. ... Moving non Jews out of ther homes proved not be easy for the colonial Zionist movement.After the 1948 UN partition better armed Jewish forces moved quickly to dislodge non jews,piosining wells and masscare of civillians.Mythology ofcourse spun at the time:57 Arab states attack weak ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Judaism's dirty little secret by #3506   4 year  1,100
     
    I’ve never met a more racist people than religious Jews and I’ve lived in big cities for many years. They consider everyone in the world that are not Jewish to be animals. They openly refer to us as ”Goyim” in public conversations. I can testify to this from personal experience. Even in big cities they don’t assimilate and only associate with others like them. I think organized religion is the root of all evil! I find it absurd that fundamentalist Christians want to assist Israel in fulfilling a Mideast land grab in order to fulfill the false prophecy of Armeggeden and Jesus second coming. ...   [retrieve this message]
  • It seems like starvation is the preffered method used by Jews to kill th... by #3506   4 year  1,754
     
    It seems like starvation is the preffered method used by Jews to kill their enemies. In Russia the Jewish Bolsheviks killed 30 million Ukrainians by blocking all food shipments. Today the Israelis are starving 1.5 million Palestinians by using a blockade also.   [End]
    • The Hamas Ideology of Hatred and Genocide by peggyaus   4 year  1,866
       
      From: http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=822 ... ... The Hamas Ideology of Hatred and Genocide: Islamic supremacy over the world, destroying Israel and Jews, promoting terror and violence ... ... By: Itamar Marcus ... ... ... Introduction ... In light of the escalating conflict between Hamas and Israel, it’s important to review the Hamas ideology and understand how Hamas views the conflict. ... ... Hamas ideology, as expressed in the Hamas Charter, sees Hamas as part of the worldwide Muslim Brotherhood (Article 2) that seeks world Islamic domination. Israel is said to exist on territory that is ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Who stole the land in the name of false mythological religious writings? by #3506   4 year  1,601
         
        Who stole the land in the name of false mythological religious writings? The Bible is a cultural mythological interpretation of God. God NEVER chose the Jewish people! Jewish people wrote the Bible choosing themselves! Obviously they have delusions of grandeur and narcissistic tendencies to believe that they are above everyone else in the human race! Actually if you study history all peoples in the region lived together in peace before 1948. When the Zionists stole the land and kicked out the indigenous population that caused all the problems we still have today!   [End]
        • Islamic Expansion and Imperialism by peggyaus   4 year  1,935
           
          The fight which much of current media portrays as being between Israeli’s and Palestinians is actually the struggle between Islamic imperialism and its expansion into the west. ... ... ’You stole our land’ is an old catch cry for Muslims who lay claim to the whole world, not just Israel: ... ... ... http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/the_truth_about_islamic_crusad.html ... ... ... ... Islam already occupies 99 percent of middle eastern land and will not stop until Israel is taken; nor will it stop its colonialism of the west as seen in Europe in current times. They will use lies as tactics, such as the a ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Israeli war crimes by BlackMagic   4 year  2,053
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIihOUYByBY ...   [End]
  • western wall demolished by israeli troops by Newport   4 year  1,662  Conspiracy Theories / Palestine
     
    WESTERN WALL DEMOLISHED BY ISRAELI TROOPS ... ... Early Saturday morning, Israeli troops entered the Western Wall Plaza in Jerusalem’s Old City and cleared the area of it’s usual Shabbat worshipers. They then proceeded to demolish the centuries old structure. ... ... Apparently they were given orders to demolish any structure that was built without a permit in East Jerusalem. King Herod was responsible for the construction of the wall around 1900 BCE. He neglected to obtain the proper building permits. ... ... ... ... ...   [End]
    • Video Embedded IDF dogs attack 99 year old Palestinian man by Newport   4 year  1,758
       
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5irjxfVCNV4&feature=player_embedded ... ... ... ... ..... ... ... Imagine if it was a Jew who was attacked in Iran. It would be all over the news. But this as we know will go unmentioned.   [End]
      • Notice how the Jewish Zionist lady blamed the 99 year old victim? by #3506   4 year  1,678
         
        Notice how the Jewish lady blamed the 99 year old victim? It’s so typical of Zionists to blame the victim. According to the Zionist mentality Jews are always blameless for any destructive deeds! They always murder people for self defense or Israeli security!   [End]
    • Greetings for Israel by Michealjones   4 year  1,929
       
      I would like to extend my greetings to the people of [B][url=http://samsonblinded.org/news/Israel [/url][/B] ... on her 61st independence day on the May 14th. Israel’s existence has been full of struggle and aggression and all at the cost of innocent lives.I love Israel and wish she can be at peace someday!   [End]
  • Image Embedded Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this website... /70 1 by ilanar49   4 year  3,436  Webmaster Debate / Palestine / Politics D
     
    As a first-time viewer of curezone, I’ll have to think about this site. ... ... Do you sanction anti-Semitic and anti-Israel postings? Do you sanctioin political postings at all? I thought this was for information about healing... ... ... I opened up your web-site and here is what I was greeted with!!! Someone proposing to boycott Israeli products. WHAT is that all about?? ... ... ...   [End]
    • CureZone's Dirty Little Secret2 by rudenski   4 year  3,514
       
      I don’t know if you know CureZone.com’s dirty little secret but not only is anti-antisemitism allowed but many of CZ’s main contributors do not believe that Israel even has a right to exist. Others in CureZone claim that those in power in Israel are not ”real Jews” but instead descend from the Khazars, supposedly a Turkish, non-semitic race. Those who hold this view even include forum owners of CureZone. Most of the Anti-Semites in CureZone would not claim to be such even if they claim that Israel does not have a right to exist. Imagine if there were an Alternative Health Site where most o ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: CureZone's Dirty Little Secret3 by TheObserver   4 year  3,404
         
        Over the years, I have been greatly disappointed that those who come to CureZone seeking health advice end up being seduced into the dark side of CureZone. We end up with people who are learning to cure their bodies while their soul and mind are constantly attacked by the so called healers of CureZone who foist fear of Jews, Blacks, Hispanics on anyone not believing in their White Nationalist world-view. ... ... Thank you for posting your concerns. For a while, the debate side of CureZone was at another Website called CureZone.org . The health side was much less frequented by open racists. I ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: CureZone's Dirty Little Secret4 by blubruddah   4 year  3,142
         
        I see the Webmaster is alerted on this message ... ... But C’mon boys and girls the Webmaster knows his forum owners, they know the TOS, and frankly while he will always respond that he needs the link ... ... This is the microscopic view of a larger issue- it is the posters and the posters of the past who did finally make his own forum, he still frequents this one ... ... So here is the irony, and God does have a sense of humor- warped maybe or perhaps PERFECT! ... A health site who does not to push product ... A health site that has really unhealthy and spatting heirarchy ... A health site that allows destructio ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: CureZone's Dirty Little Secret5 by JesseCured   5 mon  514
         
        ... ... The people who created and the people who regularly visit Curezone are only about truth. If truth bothers you, then maybe you should go somewhere else. There are many aspects to truth. The truth of the Isreali’s is different than the truth of the Palestinians. The truth of the Palestinians is different that the truth of the rest of the Arab world. It is only when all truths are embraced is there any resemblance to REAL TRUTH. Is not the Palestinians or the Arabs truth equally as important as the Isreali’s truth? Or do you consider all others outside of Isreal animals that deserv ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Webmaster, why not create an gaza debate forum?6 by blues   4 year  3,086
       
      There are people posting their views on different forums about the conflict in gaza. I am sure there are some people that would prefer to not know what these people think about that issue when they are going to a forum to get advice about a particular health issue. You don’t even have to read the thread, just the title to know the jist of the message. Knowing that a person has a totally different view from yours on such contenuous issue could make some people think twice on the validity of their health advice. ... ... Why not just create a forum for the israeli/palestinian conflict and just mov ...   [retrieve this message]
      • He did...7 by alikat   4 year  3,009
         
        http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=455 ... ... It looks like people either don’t bother to look for what forums are already in existence, or they would just rather polute the  support forums.  At any rate, the only ones who can move posts from the forums that have an owner are the owners themselves.  It’s up to them what they allow or get involved into in the first place. ...   [End]
        • There you go folks8 by blues   4 year  3,052
           
          Hash out the israel/palestian debate in the forum created for it. ... ... ... Thanks for the link alikat. Had no idea the forum existed since no one was posting in it for eight months.   [End]
    • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...9 by mo123   4 year  3,206
       
      there is a new thread in the conspiracy forum about Israel hiring ... An Army of bloggers to combat anti zionist posting. ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1350986#i ... ... ... I wonder if this is what this is really about? ... ... As Muslims we are seeking a peaceful end to the war thru financial sanctions. This was a piece from the newspaper not something I have written. If you want to pick on me then why not post of the tons of threads I have written about forgiving Israel and not being revengeful towards innocent people. I find that with the hundreds of post on people disliking the gov’t yo ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Freedom of speech? What is Freedom?10 by Webmaster   4 year  3,263
       
      Dear Ilana, ... ... ”I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Evelyn Beatrice Hall, writing as S. G. Tallentyre in 1906. ... ... ... ”Besides learning to see, there is another art to be learned--not to see what is not.” ~ Maria Mitchell ... ... ... Let me answer your questions with my questions: ... ... Do you know what freedom is? ... ... Do you know what freedom of speech is? ... ... Do you know what freedom of press is? ... ... Do you know why freedom of speech and freedom of press are important? ... ... Do you think that censorship is heathy? ... ... There is no freedom where censorship rul ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Freedom of speech? Ever heard about it?11 by mo123   4 year  3,064
         
        thank you so much Webmaster. This is so appreciated to be supported by you. ... ... SARA   [End]
        • Freedom of Speech? Support or Debate?12 by Webmaster   4 year  3,096
           
          Sara, ... ... The appropriate forums for any message related to Gaza War would be (should be!): ... ... Palestine : Israel ... Politics Debate ... Conspiracy Forum ... History ... Terrorism Debate ... War Crimes Debate ... ... ... We also have many other forums where Political debates are allowed: ... ... Iraq War Debate ... Abortion Debate ... Gay/Lesbian Marriage ... Courts & Justice ... Islam Debate ... Gun Control Debate ... Death Penalty ... ... Why is it inappropriate to post political content into a support forum? ... ... "Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Freedom of Speech? Support or Debate?13 by mo123   4 year  3,020
             
            All Gaza posting has been removed from my forum. ... ... SARA   [End]
          • Video Embedded Personally Speaking...14 by UserX   4 year  3,133
             
            I have NEVER agreed with the separation of forums into Support Forums and Debate Forums... nor do I agree that spiritual, social, economic and political issues can be separated from health issues. We are HOLISTIC beings and every aspect of life contributes to our overall health and wellbeing. ... ... The reason that I have posted a great deal of the subject matter that is on my forum is to invite DISCUSSION about these issues. As adults... we should ALL be able to engage in a reasonable exchange of opinions, ideas, creative solutions, etc.... that just MAY contribute to the RESOLUTION of so man ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Personally Speaking...15 by Newport   4 year  2,877
               
              I have NEVER agreed with the separation of forums into Support Forums and Debate Forums ... ... I know I am six days late to this but I totally agree that support and debate MUST be kept separate. I don’t want someone in a dire physical\mental state to have to even think about some of the things posted in the debate forums. ... They should feel save clicking the Support Mosaic link... ... ...   [End]
              • Re: Personally Speaking...16 by blackngold   4 year  2,890
                 
                ... Hey Newport, ... This is a touchy subject. What O was saying was that support and debate forums should be one and the same - what you believe is that they should be kept separate. In my experience, there are arguements made for both. There are plenty of newbies who come along who probably would be overwhelmed by a free for all support forum, yet the drawback of the concept (as we know it now) of a support forum is that most tenets can’t be challenged. And we all know the amount of bull that gets slung around here (me hiding off in the corner....)   [End]
                • Re: Personally Speaking...17 by Newport   4 year  3,003
                   
                  bull that gets slung around here ... ... Doesn’t compare to the full time word smiths that would completely destroy the whole point of this site...then again that might be why it is being suggested. ... ... Perhaps we should contact the FDA to get an OK for what can be posted...you on board for that? ...   [End]
                  • Re: Personally Speaking...18 by blackngold   4 year  3,030
                     
                    Newport, ... I am only putting forth my views on what you (and O) were discussing... The concept of the separation of the debate and support forums. As I said, I can see both sides of the coin. There is no perfect answer. I actually support the separation. However... it comes at a cost. Which should be seen by everyone, even if it is warranted. And that is that the freedom of expression/information is stifled. Support forums are a one party line of information. That is a fact. I will not argue that in some (maybe most) cases that is for the better - but it is still a one party line. And that ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • You're Out Of Line.19 by UserX   4 year  2,937
                     
                    ”Doesn’t compare to the full time word smiths that would completely destroy the whole point of this site...then again that might be why it is being suggested.” ... ... Newport... I would suggest that you think long and hard about that... and the implications that you are making. ... ... As B&G pointed... and I stated very clearly... there is PLENTY of unsupportive garbage in the Support Forums... and an awful lot of it comes in the form or products that are being peddled on this website all over the place! I have said this loud and clear... JUST because something is natural... be it a supplement or ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • Re: You're Out Of Line.20 by Newport   4 year  2,931
                       
                      because you are going to feel INCREDIBLY FOOLISH when I REALLY start talking about what I KNOW! ... ... You been drinking? ... ... ...   [End]
                      • Have I Been Drinking? /70 21 by UserX   4 year  3,029
                         
                        No Newport. There’s no alcohol allowed on my reservation at the moment. ... ... Would you care to comment again?   [End]
                      • Re: You're Out Of Line.22 by FromOz   4 year  3,069
                         
                        This is getting out of control. Keep it nice and polite guys! What’s this threatening? If you’re trying to be funny, I’m sure no posters are laughing with you, but at you.   [End]
      • For all the ilanar's and those who got out of CureZone with their soul i...23 by rudenski   4 year  3,222
         
        ilanar, ... ... The sponsors and donors of CureZone.com are also caught up in the same web of Aryan White Nationalist propaganda as the web of propaganda that many of those who come to CureZone.com are caught up in. Those who do not agree with the White Nationalist views of CureZone.com and the majority of its Forum Owners are free to go somewhere else. Your post was very timely and it might amount to something if several posters were to say something but the problem to me is that most people see the open racism in CureZone and just go away, never to return. Yours is one vote against racism whi ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: For all the ilanar's and those who got out of CureZone with their so...24 by #64805   4 year  3,040
           
          Ron Paul is not racist your obviously have read some false accusations about him on, however there is allot of mean spirited people here. If Ron Paul was a racist he wouldn’t be involved with some of the people/organizations that he is. Its just media lies to give him a bad name. He has spoken against predjuce many times.   [End]
          • Re: For all the ilanar's and those who got out of CureZone with their so...25 by rudenski   4 year  3,074
             
            I have been a researcher of history for all of my adult life and even as a teen I studied history. I don’t just read what is comfortable to read that always agrees with what I believe anymore. Critical thinking requires the critical thinker to play the devil’s advocate and look at both sides of an argument. The only people who don’t know that Ron Paul is a racist fearmonger are those who don’t want to know the truth. Ron Paul wrote racist, homophobic, and apocalyptic far right rants in the Ron Paul Survival Report and other newsletters in his name. Ron Paul wrote about the coming civil rac ...   [retrieve this message]
        • "The price of freedom of speech is that we must put up with a good deal ...26 by Webmaster   4 year  3,201
           
          Rudi, ... ... Unfortunately, ”The price of freedom of speech is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish.” ... ... ... ”After all, if freedom of speech means anything, it means a willingness to stand and let people say things with which we disagree, and which do weary us considerably.” ... Zechariah Chafee; in Chafee (1920). Freedom of Speech, p. 366, Harcourt, Brace and Howe. ... ... ... ... Demographic Profile of CureZone Audience is NOT different from the Demographic Profile of countries where CureZone Audience come from. ... ... 88.17 % of all curezone visitors come from English Speaking Countries like USA, ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: "The price of freedom of speech is that we must put up with a good d...27 by Miss Helfinger   4 year  3,046
             
            This was very interesting - I’m juiced to see these numbers - I have to go look for the survey. I knew there were ones for symptoms and protocol experience - but not race, location and demographic.   [End]
          • Re: "The price of freedom of speech is that we must put up with a good d...29 by #110832   4 year  2,936
             
            Dear WebMaster, ... ... Your fancy demographic graphics notwithstanding, there is such a thing on most lists as OT (OFF topic). This isn’t about freedom of speech. That is a smoke-screen. ... ... If this site claims to be about healing (CURE???) then there shouldn’t be posts - let alone anti-Semitic, anti-Israel or any kind of racist posts. Either it’s about curing or it’s about politics. ... Why is this site a haven for the sort of rubbish I’m seeing on this site. That isn’t free speech at all. ... ... Do your sponsors sanction this?? ... ... Ilana   [End]
            • Re: "The price of freedom of speech is that we must put up with a good d...30 by #108005   4 year  3,022
               
              Why is discussing the horrors of war racist ? Why is censoring of discussion being demanded? This is still America.   [End]
            • Video Embedded Is This YOUR Idea Of A CURE?!!!33 by UserX   4 year  2,955
               
              ... ... ... ... CONFIRMED! ... ... ... ... ISRAEL... with the help of the U.S.... are the TERRORISTS!!! ... ... ... ... ... ... Does YOUR GOD sanction THIS?!!!!! ... ... ... ... What happened to YOUR HUMANITY?!!!!!!!!! ... ... ... ... WAKE UP. ...   [End]
            • One notes the timing of your appearance - did you come here for healing?35 by Dquixote1217   4 year  2,936
               
              One notes the timing of your sudden appearance at CureZone, the posts you zeroed in on and the story a few days ago about israel recruiting an army of bloggers to counter their crimes in Gaza. ... ... In all of last year right up to the day of the Israeli invasion of Gaza, the total deaths due to rockets was 4.  One is too many, but how does that compare to the huge loss of life and mass destruction in Israel’s genocidal response? ... ... Yes, CureZone is about healing and about freedom of speech too.  Thanks to a long line of political leaders which were the original ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: One notes the timing of your appearance - did you come here for heal...36 by FromOz   4 year  2,972
                 
                Thanks you for putting all this into wise words. ... What I can’t understand either, how Ilana turned up just now, opening this particular thread. Amazing! First timer, starting with a complaint, would not move on, even though discussions are upsetting to her/him. ... susan   [End]
              • Re: One notes the timing of your appearance - did you come here for heal...37 by mo123   4 year  2,902
                 
                tony, don’t you find it funny that they are picking on the article concerning money. Money out of Israel’s pocket. There are tons of articles on the masacre of children by Israel, the genocide of Israel, the blah, blah, blah. so why choose to attack a Muslim woman posting about money in a peaceful protest. We are not avocating guns and bombs and in no way is it attack on their security but a attack on their pocketbook. If America is supplying them with weapons let us cost them to loose a few penneys or a few billons for the damage they are doing to their homes, their livelihood and th ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: One notes the timing of your appearance - did you come here for heal...38 by Dquixote1217   4 year  3,044
                   
                  I know a couple of sponsors who know and agree wholeheartedly.  I rather imagine that the large majority of sponsors keep tabs on CureZone.  The numbers appear to me to be growing steadily. ... ... If the four deaths due to rockets are wrong, which they surely were, then divide that number into the thousands of casualties from the Gaza invasion and see how many more times wrong that was.  BTW, who was it that first introduced terrorist bombing in the Mid-east in order to get their own country? ...   [End]
            • Re: "The price of freedom of speech is that we must put up with a good d...39 by #89866   4 year  2,964
               
              ... You do not have a right to not be offended. ... ... People do have a right to freedom of speech/press/assembly. ... ... You still don’t seem to get it after tedious spoon feeding. ... ... I think you need to admit to what you are up to. ... ... Only a few posts, for Israel... ... ... Are you here because of Megaphone software or ”Army of Bloggers” or JDIF or other manipulation machine? ... ... And antisemitism? The most accurate antisemitism here would be to censor criticism about Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in Gaza. Palestinian Arabs are more semitic than Israelis, and it is questionable whethe ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Image Embedded And Speaking Of Judea Pearl...40 by UserX   4 year  2,964
               
              ... ... ... ... For the sake of peace, Israel and Palestinians should apologize to each other ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... By Judea Pearl ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Tags:  Israel News,  Daniel Pearl  ... ... ... ... It now seems clear that no peace agreement, not even on principles, will be signed by the Israeli-Palestinian negotiating team before some time in 2009.  The two sides are locked in a fundamentally immobile stalemate.  ... ... ... Israel cannot accommodate a sovereign neighbor rocket-range away from its vital airports while militant elements can and vow to use the shelter of sovereignty to accomplish their aims. And ...   [retrieve this message]
            • It goes sooo much deeper than antisemites /70 41 by blubruddah   4 year  2,974
               
              The smoke screen cannot even begin to cove rwhat lurks in the hindsight of this site   [End]
            • Re: "The price of freedom of speech is that we must put up with a good d...42 by FromOz   4 year  2,863
               
              Ilana, let it go. You said, you’re first time user, yet complaining already. First have a feel of these boards, discussions. You do not have to return if you’re not liking what you see. ... I believe your complaint has been looked into, WEbmaster has treated it superbly, yet, you still carry on. ... People here are long-time users, I am relatively a newbie. Posters here are past of discussing only health-relaed issues. Through discussions, even off topics, we learn, grow together. Obviously, this is not your aim. If you’re here to receive help, comfort, perhaps even friendship, please stay ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: "The price of freedom of speech is that we must put up with a good d...43 by JesseCured   5 mon  695
               
              Sorry, but I must respond. Although I haven’t searched the whole site to determine if your accusations are true. I am sure that truly racist or anti-semitic statements wouldn’t be allowed on here. Criticising a government’s behavior can hardly be called anti-semitic or racist. If you know of actual anti-semitic or racist posts please let me know. Till then I will continue to search to see if what you say is true. It does seem strange to me that those that scream anti-semitism have nothing to say about anti-arab racism though. They usually seem perfectly willing to scream ugly remark ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: For all the ilanar's and those who got out of CureZone with their so...44 by UserX   4 year  2,963
           
          Its a health site, and those desiring to come here for that , can. The testimonies are plethoric. Interpreting them correctly is challenging.   [End]
      • Re: Freedom of speech? What is Freedom?45 by blubruddah   4 year  3,080
         
        Then by this description or perhaps this should be in the TOS to remind certain persons that have the power, given by you, that there is freedome on CZ ... ... But I know better, not only is there not freedom of speech, but there are flame wars with the same character (s) involved and you allowed it, you allowed it and joined in. ”Hallo” in this very forum ... ... It is a pipe dream of CZ that states one thing in TOS and quite another in practice and you know this but NEVER accept your own responsibility within this context ... ... It is always - Oh we have to let them there is freedonm of speech ... ... But ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Video Embedded Care To Comment: WHAT Is THIS About?46 by UserX   4 year  3,143
       
      ... ... And you can give it a rest with a the talk of anti-semitism! The inclusion of Zionism is the Global Anti-Semitism Review Act of 2004 was written by one of the primary members... along with others in his administration... that stand to profit... along with Israel and the other ZIONISTS... from continuing these idiotic wars! ... ... http://www.house.gov/waxman/pdfs/pdf_hr_4230.pdf ... ... ... Zionism is a POLITICAL MOVEMENT... ... ... http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/2000_2009/2001/8/Zionism+-+an+Introduction.htm ... ... ... NOT a race or religion... ... ... http://www.realnews247.com/spec_rpt_jews_against_zi ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Image Embedded Video Embedded Well? Are You REALLY Interested In Healing?47 by UserX   4 year  3,153
       
      How about THIS? ... ... ... ... ... ... And how about HIM? ... ... ... ... ... ... ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu ... ... ... http://www.vanunu.com/ ... ... ... http://www.vanunu.org/ ... ... ... http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/mordechai-vanunu-photos-of-dimona/ ... ... ... IRAQ DIDN’T HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION... ISRAEL DOES!!!!! ... ... ... ... ... ...   [End]
      • Re: Well? Are You REALLY Interested In Healing?48 by mo123   4 year  2,991
         
        O, you are just fabulous. too bad there are not more like you. ... ... SARA   [End]
        • Re: Well? Are You REALLY Interested In Healing?49 by UserX   4 year  2,993
           
          Thanks Sara... but I have very little to do with it. I am forever stumbling upon these things at just the opportune time.... and have a mouth that is just too damn big to keep shut! As for there being more... they are rapidly rising in numbers because any sane person with an ounce of humanity wouldn’t sit back and allow what is going on in Gaza... AND WITH THE FIRST NATIONS PEOPLE... or any other group that is the target of GENOCIDE... to happen without speaking out against it!   [End]
          • Re: Well? Are You REALLY Interested In Healing?50 by mo123   4 year  3,072
             
            O, this message is a threat to curezone. Notice her wording, do your sponsors know? so in other words change or I will notify them. I find it amazing that she did not post the entire thread. Newport reports it is illegal to boycott in America and my response was with a list of reasons not to consume these products as they are bad for your health and we laugh it off. ... ... Muslims are doing a peaceful process, while Israel is committing genocide we are simply not buying their products. The best way to attack Israel is thru money. They are a money nation. So we did this with Denmark, and ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Iran will never attack Israel....51 by rokybird   4 year  3,212
               
              The US will never attack .... ... The Russians will never invade.... ... The French will never attack..... ... The Germans will never attack.... ... The English will never attack ,invade,colonize.... ... The Portuguese will never attack,invade,colonize.... ... The Spanish will never attack, invade,colonize... ... The Japanese will never attack, invade ,colonize.... ... The Chinese will never attack ,invade ,colonize.... ... The Koreans will never attack, invade , colonize.... ... The Serbs will never attack,invade,...... ... The Christians will never attack,invade colonize.... ... The Muslims will never attack,invade,coloniz ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: Iran will never attack Israel....52 by Megabite   4 year  3,043
                 
                Well in all seriousness, Iran will never attack Israel. Iran would certainly DEFEND themselves by striking back if Israel attacked them, I’m sure. ... ... Who wouldn’t? ... ... Aggressor - Defender. It’s important to be aware of who is in which position because it makes all the difference in accountability. ... ...   [End]
            • Image Embedded Genocide Is Genocide.53 by UserX   4 year  3,056
               
              Yea Sara... I know. And when I post messages like I did in this case... it is with the full awareness that the person is most likely not going to return and has no interest in having a discussion. The reason why I post sometimes is because I know that OTHER people will read the thread and that way they will have more to think about. ... ... It was very apparent to me that it was meant as a thinly veiled threat... nothing like a little economic blackmail to try and get people to come around to your way of thinking. Yea.. I got it. ... ... I had not seen your post about the boycott... so I had not mad ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: Genocide Is Genocide.54 by mo123   4 year  2,989
                 
                O, I really love your passion. No, it is not just about me but I am part of the scheme. I suffer nothing compared to others such as your ancestors or mine. I feel so passionate about the plight of the Muslims not to create fear mongering but to tell of the genocide of the innocent. ... ... I was a constant target in America, O, not because of my color and I am white but because I dare to wear a scarf. I had people walk off the register and refuse to serve me, I had people who tried to kill me, I was run over with shopping carts and many other horific things. ... ... During the Oklahoma bombing, ...   [retrieve this message]
    • People are no good.....55 by rokybird   4 year  3,066
       
      but some are worse than others. There are a small number of Neo Nazis here who post their holocaust denial stuff they copy and paste from Neo Nazi websites. They are sick people with an evil agenda. ... ... Unfortunately as we know sickness is often contagious and their version of a cure for themselves is the murder of everyone who doesnt agree with them. ... ... The Neo Nazis here in the US have in fact been used by the NWO (New World Order),to further their agenda of the feudalization of the USA. ... ... The NWO has done this by claiming that anyone who defends white america is like the Neo Nazis;an e ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Image Embedded Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...56 by peggyaus   4 year  3,059
       
      Wow how did I miss this thread! ... ... Unfortunately (my view) Curezone doesn’t really have a balance either in the type of views shown here and the number; just watch at how many will disagree very quickly at my post; when it comes to matters of Israel or judaism. ... ... Politcal correctness at this point in history means lashings of sympathy for Islam and none for its natural ’enemies’ (i,e rationality, athiesm and any other religion). When you have large numbers influencing public opinion the outcome is always going to be one sided. I do not believe many here have even bothered to view a map ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...57 by FromOz   4 year  2,936
         
        I am not here to agree or disagree with you. What bothers me is Holocaust wasn’t mentioned for a good 40 years. Now in the last 10, whereever you turn, any media, it is constantly brought up, shown. Why? For future generations? They would learn about it, through history if interested. In Oz, if a jewish person gets offended by a non-Jew, part of the ”punishment” is that person, young or old has to endure history lessons re Holocaust, visit the Jewish Museum, and of course, blowing the original offence out of proportion in all types of available media. Not to mention leagal proceedin ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...58 by peggyaus   4 year  2,867
           
          ... ... I’m not sure why you are hearing more about the holocaust now, more than ever; but I know in the west we hear about it alot because it is part of our european history, in the same way we hear alot about the stolen generation (aboriginal) here in Oz. By contrast, people in Asia, I can’t imagine would have it in their consciousness. ... ... I’ve been hearing about it (holocaust) for a long time and i’m over 40; but I’ve also been hearing about the plight of all sorts of people in all different places around the globe as there is so much horror, everywhere, and I also do suspect we are all su ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...59 by FromOz   4 year  2,908
             
            Thanks for posting your opnions. ... I am 47, lived first 14 years in Europe. Under Communism, or maybe had nothing to do with it, being Jewish meant, you were a different race. I have asked older Jewish people about it, who lived in Europe in the same timeframe, they agree with it. Living in Australia, I always heard, being Jewish, means, following different religion, until now. It seems, being Jewish is viewed all over the world as a different race, now. Any view on this?   [End]
      • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...63 by Dquixote1217   4 year  2,908
         
        Peggy, does any of that excuse the atrocities in Gaza?  Or the crimes and schemes of Zionism? ... ... That is an impressive map.  Given Israel’s hospitality towards it’s neighbors I do not see it changing very much in the forseeable future, do you? ... ... Would you have us believe that all that huge area of "irrational" Muslims are wrong and the the tiny speck of Israel is rational and right?  I am not so sure that I would call Israel’s behavior rational, though I can see why they would be so protective.  It would be kind of like me moving deep into an urban ghetto, ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...64 by FromOz   4 year  2,929
           
          ”tiny speck of Israel”, you write Tony. ... Don’t forget, it is not Israel only at work, but the large number of Jews outside of Israel. They are the ones, who provide backing, financial, religious etc. Talking here to some old Jewish members of the community, (most of them never been to Israel) they agree more to this slaughter, see it as their right, as necessity, than Israelis themselves. ... ... ”Given Israel’s hospitality towards it’s neighbors I do not see it changing very much in the forseeable future.” ... Neither do I, neither do many people. ... ... Interestingly, here, in Melbourne, Australia, ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...65 by mo123   4 year  2,881
           
          Well apparently it is not illegal to harass or talk about Muslims as that is allowed what the thread is about not saying one word of any kind about Israel. So speak badly all you want about Muslims and Islam just don’t talk about the Jews. ... ... But then again, if we can’t talk about the Jews and Israel, why then is not talking about Islam and budist and Mormons and all organized religions not stopped also. The rule has to be and should be for all not just the Jews. ... ...   [End]
          • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...66 by FromOz   4 year  2,871
             
            Sara, I am posting here not for religious or political reasons. I work in Community Care, mainly with Jewish clients, in dominantly Jewish area. Self-created, very tightly knit, christian neighbours not so welcome, (sell your property to us) by the Jewish residents. I can’t help to notice it is the Jewish people who are saying, hey, we are different than the rest of you (better!), we want/demand/deserve different (better) treatment than the rest of community. Living with Jews under Communism and in the West, I do have questions, and yes, I do ask my clients too. We receive training on ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...67 by mo123   4 year  2,913
               
              Oz, I am confused by your message but it could be because it is 9am and I have not been to bed yet. lol. I think it is a great misunderstanding about me. I am not anti-jewish. I am pro Muslim. A big difference. My gripe is I think I should be able to post my opinions especially if it is the truth and backed up by newspaper articles such as the one I posted at the top of the thread. Informing people about what is going on is not anti jewish. I don’t like the gov’t but love the people. I have had tons of clients and yes they want to be treated like royalty but so do many other people ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...68 by FromOz   4 year  3,031
                 
                ”I want fair and equal billing with each one. Am I asking for too much?” ... ... Sara, I understand what you’re saying, want. No, you’re not asking for too much, only for fairness. ... My post didn’t mean to confuse you. I’ve posted my thoughts, opinions, observations on Jewish living, so that people who think they’re discriminated against, in every day life, might understand, how, what and why other people maybe thinking in the community about this matter. ... ... ”I am against genocide, the killing of innocent people, like the people of the world trade centers.” ... I fully agree 100%. If you remembe ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...69 by mo123   4 year  2,884
                   
                  Sorry Oz, I was responding to Tony’s post not yours, actually only read one or two of yours. Tony’s my friend as you are too. I never saw any post on what you are talking about. I saw the post on why is it illegal to harrass Muslims and I feel it is the other way round. See you thought I was targeting you,. lol, girl. I have not had any sleep and going to visit my friend that is in town from Amman, but I am feeling great. ... ... SARA   [End]
        • Re: Is anti-Israel and other political messages appropriate for this web...70 by #101007   4 year  3,020
           
          ’Would you have us believe that all that huge area of ”irrational” Muslims are wrong and the the tiny speck of Israel is rational and right? I am not so sure that I would call Israel’s behavior rational, though I can see why they would be so protective. It would be kind of like me moving deep into an urban ghetto, putting a rebel flag and white cross in my front yard and wearing sheets.’ ... ... ... I disagree with your analogy. It is like being the only white person in a black ghetto. ... ...   [End]
  • Look at what these savages get away with by #3506   5 year  2,032
     
    Look at what this democracy of Satan gets away with! ... ... http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/230508Reuters.htm ...   [End]
    • Re: Look at what these savages get away with by kmtina   4 year  2,029
       
      Israel continues to get shelled by Gaza on a daily basis and Hamas continues to endanger its own civilian population when it launches those rockets from hospitals, churches, and schools in heavily populated areas. http://samsonblinded.org/news/rocket-from-gaza-hits-israeli-school-8227 ... At the same time, the EU and our country continues to provide $1.5 billion in foreign aid to Gaza when the economy is collapsing.   [End]
  • Professor Finkelstein arrested in that fake deomocracy called Israel by #3506   5 year  978
     
    Why do American taxpayers put up with giving billions of dollars to this terrorist state called Israel? ... ... ... http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/norman-finkelstein-arrested-in-israel/ ...   [End]
  • ???? by #91513   5 year  1,130
     
    ::::What I don’t understand is:::: ... ... WHY THE ARAB COUNTRIES DON’T ABSORB THE REMAINING PALESTINIANS. ... eND OF prOBLEm oR wOULd iT bE?   [End]
  • How come when Arabs defend their country against illegal invaders they a...   R by #3506   5 year  1,191
     
    How come when Arabs defend their country against illegal invaders they are called terrorists or insurgents? The American media always refers to the invaders and occupiers, Israel and America, as being the good guys. What a twisted world we live in. Can you imagine if China or Russia invaded America would the Americans then be ”terrorists” or ”insurgents” for resisting an invading foreign power? Americans are such ethnocentric hypocritical people. They can’t see a situation from another point of view.   [End]
  • Israeli Mossad, the real terrorists! by 2Sirius   5 year  1,905
     
    http://judicial-inc.biz/False_Flags_summary.htm ...   [End]
    • Re: Israeli Mossad, the real terrorists! by #58095   5 year  1,849
       
      Are you ready to pick up your koran and join the HAMAS group and fire more missiles into israel or become a suicide bomber, and shout ”death to infidels”!? ... ... So when israel hits back you can cry foul and call them terrorist! ... ... Why don’t you just fly overseas and become a member of hezbollah, iran, syria or hamas?   [End]
      • Re: Israeli Mossad, the real terrorists! by 2Sirius   5 year  1,932
         
        Pathetic! I’m amazed skin head or redneck isnt in your post somewhere! You’re slippin Ms. Stalin! ... But I suppose someone who is controlled by a bolshevik mentality does’nt give a hoot who it was that tried to sink the USS Liberty! Eyes witness testimony from the survivors, pictures of Israeli aircraft mean little. They told you it was a bunch of slimy arabs from Libya and thats what you gonna believe! ... The stupidity of some people on this subject is incredible!   [End]
  • open letter to the us congress by the survivors of the uss liberty by 2Sirius   6 year  987
     
    OPEN LETTER TO THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS BY THE SURVIVORS OF THE USS LIBERTY ... December 26, 2007 ... ... I have been writing letters to our elected officials for the past 20 years, trying to get a congressional investigation into the deliberate attack on the USS LIBERTY on June 8, 1967 by the government of Israel. This atrocity and cold-blooded murder of America’s sons on the high seas was an act of war against the United States of America, not to mention the numerous war crimes committed against the crew of the USS LIBERTY. ... ... Being that this is America where there exists at least a small shre ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Tillawi on Ritter on Israel by 2Sirius   6 year  989
     
    Beam Me Up Scotty, I’m a Palestinian! ... Posted December 20, 2007 ... ... “Did you read the latest article by Scott Ritter?” my friend excitedly asked. Not wanting to rain on his parade, nevertheless I was as frank as possible in my answer–“I don’t like political prostitution.” I calmly answered. “What do you mean?” my friend asked, half-surprised and half-not. “I don’t like people going on at length with how much they admire Israel before they critique her.” ... ... As much as I am glad to see him finally seeing and stating the obvious, nevertheless there are a few things I would like to ask Ritter w ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Post-Attack on the USS Liberty–Israel’s Blood Bath by 2Sirius   6 year  1,175
     
    Post-Attack on the USS Liberty–Israel’s Blood Bath ... December 15, 2007 ... ... On the horizon we could see another helicopter coming at our ship. We thought to ourselves “Oh no, here we go again…more bloodshed from our so-called “friends” in Israel.” ... ... The helicopter hovered above the main deck of the ship and then, to our surprise, dropped a brown paper bag containing an orange and, to our even greater surprise–a business card. On the front of the card read ‘Commander Ernest Castle, Naval Attaché USN’ and on the back of the card, handwritten it asked ‘Have you casualties?’… ... ... As if the dummie ...   [retrieve this message]
  • No American President Can Stand Up to Israel by Celcius   6 year  1,474
     
    ... http://www.rense.com/general77/nus.htm ...   [End]
  • Jewish Peace Activist - Don't Fear 'Anti-Semite' Label by Celcius   6 year  1,310
     
    ... Jewish Peace Activist - Don’t ... Fear ’Anti-Semite’ Label ... 7-10-7 ... ... Dr. Mark Braverman, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace who serves on the Boards of Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, Partners for Peace and the Washington Interfaith Alliance for Middle East Peace. He states: ... ... If you be a USA Christian. I hope you will listen to his plea and be encouraged to DO SOMETHING and also speak out: ... ... ”To our Christian sisters and brothers I say - do not, out of a sense of guilt for anti-Semitism, give the Jewish people a free pass. Do not confuse anti-Semitism with critique of Israe ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Results of Israel co existing with Muslims. by #54894   6 year  2,612
     
    http://www.adl.org/Israel/israel_attacks.asp ... ... ... ... http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+before+2000/Fatal+Terrorist+Attacks+in+Israel+Since+the+DOP+-S.htm ... ... ... ... http://lindasog.com/public/terrorvictims.htm ...   [End]
    • Re: Results of Israel co existing with Muslims. by Celcius   6 year  2,244
       
      The ADL known liars and scoundrels, also a Zionist propaganda stonghold hardly a trustworthy news source! Like the fox complaining about the treatment from the hens!   [End]
      • Re: Results of Israel co existing with Muslims. by #54894   6 year  2,358
         
        And you would have me believe the Jews did this also? ... ... ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6900553.stm ...   [End]
        • Re: Results of Israel co existing with Muslims. by Celcius   6 year  2,442
           
          Well the BBC is a little more dependable as a news source but not much ! Im not saying there isnt a lot of violence on everybodies part but its the zionist and the Isreali mossad that are reponsible for many many false flag attacks ,its what they do, they found some success in doing so when the mossad blew up the USS Liberty and got away with it, so I beleive they are capable of anything! They no doubt are the biggest scum on this planet!   [End]
  • Palestine: Zionist Starvation Plan by Celcius   6 year  1,141
     
    ... http://www.rense.com/general77/pall.htm ...   [End]
  • Why We Should Fear Zionism More Than Islam by Celcius   6 year  2,111
     
    ... http://www.rense.com/general77/zovislam.htm ...   [End]
    • Re: 1000 year millenium is Zionism by 2ss   6 year  2,241
       
      They’ve done a good job. They even have the Christians beleiving in this phoney 1000 year fantasy. The 1000 year story dates pre-Egyptian. Its NOT Christian or even Jewish for that matter. To paraphrase Hitler ”A big lie is easier to sell to the public than the truth”. People will believe a big lie easier than any truth. ... I think Sutter covered that in his ”Next five years” article. ... ... Zionisms the problem I keep trying to tell people but they don’t believe it. You ain’t going to like what they have planned for us.   [End]
  • If Americans only knew.... by Celcius   6 year  1,395
     
    ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVBIzu4YvnE ...   [End]
  • The Universal Jew by Celcius   6 year  2,174
     
    Through out the modern world the Universal Jew rises to positions of authority, become elected officials and take oaths that are previously nullified by their allegiance to Kol Nidre! ... ... ... ... http://yannone.blogspot.com/search/label/Kol%20Nidre ...   [End]
    • Re: The Universal Jew by #27054   6 year  2,169
       
      the jewish are a trojan virus when allowed into a democratic system, history has shown that, tomi.   [End]
  • What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by Celcius   6 year  2,285
     
    What If Israel Had Never Been Created? ... William Hughes ... ... ... ... ... William Hughes ... July 11, 2006 ... ... ... Thanks mostly to U.S. President Harry S. Truman and his “susceptibility to Zionist influence,” Israel came into existence in 1948. (1) Humanity, and in particular, the Palestinians, have paid dearly for his decision. The land on which the Palestinians had been living for centuries, in peace, with a minority Jewish population, has been gradually transformed into an Apartheid state by the machinations of the Zionist Movement. That Apartheid state, in turn, is today dominated by Israel’s Death-M ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Agreed. And On That Note: by Megabite   6 year  2,251
       
      Bush pledges to increase funding to Israel: ... ... ... http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3415479,00.html ... ... ...   [End]
    • Re: What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by #1844   6 year  2,232
       
      ... Long before Israel and with the same faith in their ignorance,greed and jealousy the self anointed master race cowardly murdered and robbed millions of defenseless men,women and children.Just a continuation of ingrained religious hate extending back from early western and mid-eastern history.Israel is a first line of defense for democratic secular Arabs and Jews. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...   [End]
      • Re: What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by Celcius   6 year  2,206
         
        I like your optimism #1844 but you’re talking about a dream, a utopian vision of the Altnueland a multicutural country long since forgotten by the modern warstate of zionist israel! I dont know how this utopian vision can ever be realized with all the blood spilled in this region of the world ! Its similar to the American dream vanishing before our eyes! ... When men make plans god laughs!   [End]
  • ethnic cleansing by #27054   6 year  2,297
     
    can someone out there tell me why the super nations allow ethnic cleansing take place in jerusalem? tomi.   [End]
    • Re: ethnic cleansing by Corinthian   6 year  2,241
       
      Because the Palestinians do not have effective political lobbyists in Washington, or the support of the rapture nutburgers, or very much money.  ...   [End]
      • Re: ethnic cleansing by #27054   6 year  2,259
         
        what a great treasure the temple mount must be to risk so many lives.   [End]
        • Re: ethnic cleansing by #27054   6 year  2,211
           
          tonight i see the ’ark of the convenant’. there were no cherubs on the lid, no, just two hawks olmert/bush, just sat there with their sickly smiles. ... it was the most sickening sight that i’ve witnessed for many a year. ... i am not going into politics for this is about their power and the glory of god. ... the israelis have only their destiny in mind,that destiny is being assisted by their closest ally,the usa. ... i just hope they dont carry out their mindless deeds for the sake of humanity,tomi. ...   [End]
          • Re: ethnic cleansing by Celcius   6 year  2,202
             
            These atrocities are allowed to occur because of the lies perpetuated by the terrorist state of Israel, the most powerful lobby in DC! They will continue to occur unless the american people wake up and stop supporting the genocide being committed by jewish influence in america today!   [End]
      • Re: ethnic cleansing by Celcius   6 year  2,182
         
        Yes Corrie even I gave you a yes vote on pour post, even though you have it only partially correct and forget to mention the zionist influence on the christian fundamentalist movement in this country!   [End]
        • Re: ethnic cleansing by Corinthian   6 year  2,226
           
          I agree that the Zionist lobby is a powerful negative influence on American politics ...   [End]
    • Re: ethnic cleansing by #54894   6 year  2,250
       
      The same as it is tolerated in all Arab lands. If you aren’t a Muslim you are taxed, robbed and persecuted out of the country. Unless you are killed first. Nobody seems to notice that. ... ... ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands ... ... ... ... Wake up wanna be Muslim slave.   [End]
      • Re: ethnic cleansing by Celcius   6 year  2,214
         
        You have a lot of lame reasons to excuse the genocide of innocent women and children! Just does’nt cut it !You seem to think everyone except the jews are guilty of something and deserve the worst of fates! This type of hypocrisy is unacceptable! However at least I understand where you are coming from now. Its all getting clearer by the moment!   [End]
  • The High Cost of Subservience to Israel by Celcius   6 year  2,349
     
    ... http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/06/high-cost-of-subservience-to-israel.html ...   [End]
    • Re: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel by #54894   6 year  2,267
       
      Money and aid is given to both Israel and the Palestines without any vote. Crooks everywhere stealing our money , work and time. Arafat rich profiting off of the building of the wall as the focus of attention is on Israel.   [End]
      • Re: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel by Celcius   6 year  2,321
         
        lol O really bill, fair and balanced, billions to Israel and a few scheckles to Palestine! Pathetic! ... ... ... http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ ...   [End]
        • Re: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel by Megabite   6 year  2,231
           
          Celcius, I certainly cannot debate any of your posts! It’s the truth it truely disgusts me.   [End]
        • Re: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel by #54894   6 year  2,281
           
          Duh. The Paletines are now run by a terrorist organization. I don’t want a dime of my money going to either one of them. ... ... They may be giving some aid to Israel to offset the billions going to buy the oil controlled 100% by Arabs. Why isn’t some of that money going to the poor Palestinians?   [End]
          • Re: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel by Celcius   6 year  2,217
             
            duh ,one mans terrorist group is another mans freedom fighters! Israel and their communist socialist agenda has a thousand fold effect on american freedoms compared to the miniscule threat we face from palestinian terrorist! Unless you are gullible enough to believe 19 incompetent arabs pulled and imploded the wtc buildings! ... But I agree, to give any of these countries a penny is a crime against the American wage earner and it totally disgust me that there are Americans stupid enough to give OUR money away! We are being betrayed by our own government leaders and our so called representatives!!   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel by #54894   6 year  2,184
               
              Don’t worry. Get the pop corn out! The Palestinians will have plenty of money to launch missiles into Israel cities. Just in time for the 4rth of July! Now this summer the predictable the ”Palestinians are launching missiles into Israel” news programs. Yawn. ... ... ... ... ... http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1180527987631 ...   [End]
              • Re: The High Cost of Subservience to Israel by Celcius   6 year  2,272
                 
                Great! Israel is the real threat to us! They have infiltrated our government and are bringing us down the tubes as we speak! I think Israel should be dismantled as should be the UN along with any other communist organization! Palestine is no threat to America whatsoever! Hell we kicked the Russians ass and they where one of the mightiest nations on this planet at the time and now we are suppose to fear some puny little country with no real army or navy at all ,still living in the dark ages lol! Im shaking in my boots !   [End]
  • Peace Loving Arabs Living in Harmony by #54894   6 year  2,233
     
    ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6739691.stm ...   [End]
    • Re: Peace Loving Arabs Living in Harmony by Celcius   6 year  2,177
       
      Yes attrition and total poverty causes human beings to do despicable things! So whats your point? Is this a reason to commit genocide against them ! Sicko logic!   [End]
      • Re: Peace Loving Arabs Living in Harmony by #54894   6 year  2,466
         
        Blaming others for your own self made problems is the real reason. They have plenty of money for rockets, guns, bullets and bombs. ... ... ... http://tundratabloid.blogspot.com/2006/01/eu-suspends-35-millions-of-aid-to.html ... ... ... ... Why during the years that Israel was establishing itself domestically, building infrastructure etc., did the Arab world allow the Palestinians to live in the squalor of camps and not build the state that they were designated? ... ... ... http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/08/01/093335.php ... ...   [End]
  • Image Embedded Zionist state or hell on earth? by Celcius   6 year  1,336
     
    ... Palestine -The Invisible Holocaust ... By Mary Sparrowdancer ... ©. 2007 Mary Sparrowdancer ... 6-10-7 ... ... As we celebrate Israel’s 40th anniversary of their illegal military ”occupation” of Palestinian homes and lands, it is perhaps time for the world to take a good, close look at Israel-an experimental, communist war camp that is posing as a religious state in need of protection. The entire world is afraid to even question the activities of the state of Israel, or hold it to international human rights laws. It is time for the world to spend a few hours with the invisible Palestinian refugees. Th ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Who is really behind the Gaza war? by #54423   6 year  2,302
     
    Would Palestinians blow up their own university? Who is really behind the Gaza war?   [End]
  • rabbi calls for murder of arabs by #54423   6 year  2,162
     
    Israeli rabbi calls for annihilation of Arabs. ”It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable,” the racist rabbi was quoted as saying in a speech delivered on Monday to mark the Jewish festival of Passover.   [End]
    • Re: rabbi calls for murder of arabs by White Tiger   6 year  2,106
       
      So what!! Arabs have been teaching the same kind of hate and killing of Christians and jews in their madrassa schools for centuries, and most muslim leaders teach the same thing.   [End]
  • Israeli saboteurs undermine holy Moslem shrine by #54423   6 year  2,452
     
    Israel Occupation Authority Digging Secret Tunnel Under the Aqsa Mosque ... ... palestine-info.co.uk – January 18, 2007 via uruknet.info ... ... Officials in the Aqsa foundation that caters for Muslim holy shrines in occupied Palestine have unveiled that the Israeli occupation authority (IOA) was secretly digging a tunnel under the Aqsa Mosque that jeopardizes its foundations. ... ... Director of the foundation Farid Al-Haj Yahya affirmed that his institution possesses audiovisual evidence to substantiate the charges, and that it will distribute this evidence to the media in a press conference it will h ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Israeli saboteurs undermine holy Moslem shrine by White Tiger   6 year  2,278
       
      I hope the Al-Aqsa mosque does collapse! The IOA (islamic occupation Authority) had no business building a mosque on top of a jewish Holy site, just liker the muslims made it a point to build mosque on top of many Christian Holy sites as an insult! ... ... Now the muslims want to take over all the Holy Land in jerusalem, because they already have plans to build the largest mosque in the center of Christian Holy Land and blast the call to prayer 5 times a day within a few feet from the Holy Sepulchre.   [End]
      • Re: Israeli saboteurs undermine holy Moslem shrine by John Cullison   6 year  2,401
         
        God created all the space and all the dirt. Doesn’t that make them holy or sacred already? ... ... If only you folks would learn to cherish all of God’s gifts... ... ... The insanity of religion is to believe that God likes some space and some dirt better than other space and other dirt. Is God somehow lacking in properly diginified space and dirt to claim for Himself? Can God not designate any additional dirt and space that He wants to as holy? ... ... I know, let’s limit the holy space and the holy dirt to keep it scarce so we can all fight over it! Just like oil, money, gold, water, food, and ever ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Nuke it all! by Corinthian   6 year  2,353
         
        I’ll do you one better and say the whole shebang should be nuked.   It’s the only way reasonable people will find some peace.  Otherwise you religious fanatics (Christian/Muslim/Jews) will continue to drag us into their ideological wars. ... ... ... ... It is very convenient how you ignore the travesties you fanatics have brought upon Muslims and Arabs.  Christians too built or took over Jewish and Muslim sites - but just like you not to mention this. ...   [End]
  • Video Embedded If Americans knew .... by #54423   6 year  1,217
     
    If Americans knew ... ...   [End]
  • The Thirteenth Tribe by #54423   6 year  1,305
     
    The Thirteenth Tribe by the jewish author Arthur Koestler, proves that jews are not ”semites” at all, but Asiatic Khazars, related to Ghenghis Khan perhaps; but modern-day jews are NOT descended from Abraham. Their charge of ”antisemitism,” which they hurl at anyone who criticizes them is a ludicrous, baldfaced lie. The great irony in occupied Palestine is that the suffering Palestinians ARE descended from Abraham, through Ishmael. So why do the lying ”dispensationalist” whores like Falwell and Robertson side with the Christkilling jews, and condemn the Palestinians? ... ... Jewish author Arth ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Israeli vs. Arabs(Palestians)? by #64732   6 year  1,325
     
    Do arabs want to control all the middleast and in essence control the world with their power of wealth and force Islamic beliefs on everyone as well?? You decide. DO you see them evading all over the world. Surely you do. Do they really want peace if they get land and still bombs away at Israel? You decide. Is Israel just a scapegoat for them to fulfill their evil on the world? You decide. DO they buy our american buisnesses for 3 times what their worth for nothing. Nope I think not, they are in it for power and control. Wake up people. Post a comment@ ... ... ... http://blogs.usatoday.com/onde ...   [retrieve this message]
  • What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by Celcius   7 year  2,133  Politics Debate / Palestina
     
    What If Israel Had Never Been Created? ... William Hughes ... ... ... ... ... William Hughes ... July 11, 2006 ... ... ... Thanks mostly to U.S. President Harry S. Truman and his “susceptibility to Zionist influence,” Israel came into existence in 1948. (1) Humanity, and in particular, the Palestinians, have paid dearly for his decision. The land on which the Palestinians had been living for centuries, in peace, with a minority Jewish population, has been gradually transformed into an Apartheid state by the machinations of the Zionist Movement. That Apartheid state, in turn, is today dominated by Israel’s Death-M ...   [retrieve this message]
    • np by Hidden Username   7 year  1,953
       
      np   [End]
      • Re: What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by Celcius   7 year  2,022
         
        Love they neighbor my friend, its a better alternative then killing them!   [End]
        • While I May Agree With Your Statement by #13594   7 year  2,137
           
          ... Reality is different. ... ... ... http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2006/06/islamic_jihadis_1.php ...   [End]
          • Re: While I May Agree With Your Statement by Celcius   7 year  2,012
             
            Tit for tat! I think this is besides the point! My dog is better then your dog is dogmatic and stale! There are most assuredly extreme radicals on both sides I think we all should realize who they are and if we are unwittingly part of it. I think there are way too many that think its them and never really examine what they support and are a part of! The self rightious usually have the most to learn, and are the most feared!   [End]
            • Re: While I May Agree With Your Statement by #13594   7 year  2,005
               
              ... I am not arguing about my dog is better than your dog, etc. I totally agree that I wish peace and love could be the thing. Hell, we cannot accomplish that here on CZ. We invade someone’s country and when they resist we call THEM insurgents (1. a person who rises in forcible opposition to lawful authority, esp. a person who engages in armed resistance to a government or to the execution of its laws; rebel. ... 2. a member of a section of a political party that revolts against the methods or policies of the party). One Koran scholar said that if a person could not be converted them it is OK ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: While I May Agree With Your Statement by Celcius   7 year  2,015
                 
                One Koran scholar said that if a person could not be converted them it is OK to slay them. ... ... The bible says,eye for an eye tooth for tooth! ... ... dogma! ... ... This is the first thing we have to be aware of, the fundamentalist viewpoint with extremist reactionary motives! If we cannot get past the dogma of our ancient text we are lost! ... ... Either side, these are the people who instill fear and loathing apon the world today!   [End]
    • Re: What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by brewspad   7 year  2,035
       
      That nation in the Middle East calling itself ”Israel” - isn’t. Israel, the biblical Northern Kingdom, was conquered by Assyria, and the people were deported in 72 BC. Since that time and to this day, Israel has never existed and they are referred to as the ”lost tribes” of Israel. ... ... The nation today which has misappropriated the name of ”Israel” is really biblical Judah. The Left Behind folks who think that today’s Judah is Israel, are drinking something that is more powerful than alcohol because it really affects their minds. ... ... ... From Wikipedia: ... ... ”Israel is often referred to as th ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by Ohfor07   7 year  1,971
         
        While I agree in large part with your post, just a friendly reminder that the folks at Wiki, of all places, are, in general, an increasingly biased and therefore unreliable and not-credible source, and in specific, especially so when it comes to discussion of the particular topic at hand - Israel.   [End]
        • Israel is really Judah by brewspad   7 year  2,157
           
          You don’t need Wikipedia. All you have to do is read the bible. Anyone who knows the bible knows that Israel ceased to exist 2100 years ago and that country that stole their name is really Judah. It isn’t rocket science. ... ... ”While I agree in large part with your post, just a friendly reminder that the folks at Wiki, of all places, are, in general, an increasingly biased and therefore unreliable and not-credible source, and in specific, especially so when it comes to discussion of the particular topic at hand - Israel.” ...   [End]
    • Re: What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by UserX   6 year  1,861
       
      That’s a lot of work by one Mr. Hughes, but misses the root cause. Truman isn’t the culprit, although that is why we have presidents, to take the focus off of the true criminals.   [End]
      • Re: What If Israel Had Never Been Created? by #67812   6 year  1,980
         
        I don’t know about that.   [End]
        • impossible by UserX   6 year  1,905
           
          Thank you.   [End]
          • Re: impossible by #67812   6 year  1,940
             
            You’re very welcome?   [End]
            • Re: impossible by UserX   6 year  1,840
               
              Freudian, you have confused me with someone else, for, I will reveal that I have not a mirror. The reflection you see of the damage of which you write comes from another quarter, where I stand not. ... ... ...   [End]
  • Kurds have Jewish roots by lamikin   7 year  1,318
     
    This could be why Saddam hated the Kurds so much: ... ... http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/kurds.html   [End]
  • Pierre Gemayel dies in a car ambush by gypsy13princess   7 year  1,067
     
    Pierre Gemayel dies in a Beirut hospital. ... ... Pierre Gemayel- a Christian cabinet member, was basically assassinated in Beirut today. His father is Amin Gemayel and his uncle is the great Bashir Gemayel- a crusader, fighter, liberator of his people. ... ... Go to cnn.com for more info.   [End]
  • Adam Sandler knows what's really important by John Cullison   7 year  2,348  Palestina : Israel / Addiction:
     
    Sandler donates Playstations to Israel ... ... By NATHAN BURSTEIN ... ... Adam Sandler is doing his part to help Israel following its 34-day war with Lebanon. The 50 First Dates star announced earlier this week he would donate 400 Sony Playstations to Israelis whose homes were damaged in the fighting. The 39-year-old made the pledge during a meeting in Hollywood with Ehud Danoch, Israel’s consul general in Los Angeles. ... ... It’s a good thing I didn’t have any respect for Adam Sandler before, because this would have clinched it. While he’s at it, why not include copies of Grand Theft Auto? I can’t sp ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Mark Twain on the Holy Land by John Cullison   7 year  2,016
     
    From the book Tom Sawyer Abroad: ... ... ”Huck Finn, do you mean to tell me you don’t know what a crusade is?” ... ”No,” says I, ”I don’t. ... ”A crusade is a war to recover the Holy Land from the paynim.” ... ”Which Holy Land?” ... ”Why, the Holy Land -- there ain’t but one.” ... ”What do we want of it?” ... ”Why, can’t you understand? It’s in the hands of the paynim, and it’s our duty to take it away from them.” ... ”How did we come to let them git hold of it?” ... ”We didn’t come to let them git hold of it. They always had it.” ... ”Why, Tom, then it must belong to them, don’t it?” ... ”Why of course it does. Who said it ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Ingrained,washed brains,well trained by #69242   7 year  1,729
       
      Click on the video player for ”Planet of the Arabs” a film based on the book entitled ”Reel Bad Arabs”. A brief account of the years of anti Arab/muslim stereotyping, instilling fears, phobias and lies. ... ... http://www.jsalloum.org/films.html ... ... ... You see its easy to hate when your pre-programmed to do so. ... ... ... ...   [End]
  • Hezbollah: The Saviors of Lebannon by John Cullison   7 year  1,136
     
    Not only did this ragtag army with outdated equipment fight Israel to a standstill, this same group is now the one picking up the pieces and rebuilding southern Lebanon. Way to ensure Hezbollah’s popularity, Israel! Which is, of course, exactly what Israel wants -- an enemy that Israel can continue to use for false-flag operations to justify Israeli terrorism of the Middle East. ... ... ”Terrorist organization” is an ad hominem attack, by the way, and only three countries in the world consider Hezbollah terrorists. Israel, of course, and its patsies, the United States and Canada, are the onl ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Peace by #69242   7 year  860
     
    To the peacemakers.... ...   [End]
  • From Beirut: To those who love us by #69242   7 year  961
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCf1gkdNGho   [End]
  • Sons of Adam by #69242   7 year  957
     
    Love is all you need ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dSHl3C9kgY ... ... ... Everyone is a brother of another, from the same father Adam. ... We share the same earth, feel the same sun, gaze upon the same stars. ... ... Oh yes, we have the Same Creator, only One. ... ... We are one, but we are not the same ... ... ... ...   [End]
  • Israelis bombing shelters? by John Cullison   7 year  1,677
     
    Mothers wail, ‘What human would ever do this?’ ... ... Dahr Jamail and Arkan Hamed ... ... Updated Aug 9, 2006 ... ... BEIRUT (IPS/GIN) - About 55 percent of all casualties at the Beirut Government University Hospital are 15 or younger, hospital records show. ... ... ”This is worse than during the Lebanese civil war,” Bilal Masri, assistant director of the hospital, one of Beirut’s largest, told IPS. ... ... Not only are most of the patients children, but many of the injured are in serious condition, he said. ”Now we have a 30 percent fatality rate here in Beirut. That means that 30 percent of everyone hit by Isra ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Israeli pilots deliberately missing targets by John Cullison   7 year  1,112
     
    An excerpt: ... ... Israel’s chief of staff, Major-General Dan Halutz, had vowed to wipe out Hizbollah’s missile threat within 10 days. These claims are now being mocked as rockets rain down on Israel’s north with ever greater intensity, despite an intense and highly destructive air bombardment. ... As one well-connected Israeli expert put it: ’If we have such good information in Lebanon, how come we still don’t know the hideout of missiles and launchers?... If we don’t know the location of their weapons, why should we know which house is a Hizbollah house?’ ... And another: ... ... Some IDF official ...   [retrieve this message]
  • “You can tell them that I’m not leaving.We love Lebanon.” by #69242   7 year  929
     
    July 25, 2006 ... ... “You can tell them that I’m not leaving.We love Lebanon.” ... ... From ZENA EL-KHALIL ... ... BEIRUT -- I have started coughing, but I don’t know why. I am not sick. I don’t have a cold. I think it’s a reaction I’m having to stress. My body feels weak. My mouth is always dry, no matter how much water I drink. And I’m afraid to drink too much water because I don’t want it to run out! ... ... Last night was probably the most frightful night I have ever experienced in my whole entire life. I was so tired and exhausted... have not slept in days. When there is finally a quiet moment, the te ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Another Point of View: Evangelical Blindness on Lebanon by #69242   7 year  811
     
    Christianity Today, Week of July 17 ... ... Another Point of View: Evangelical Blindness on Lebanon ... The academic dean of the Arab Baptist Theological Seminary is angry at evangelical Christians, Israel, Hezbollah, the U.S., and the international community. ... by Martin Accad | posted 07/20/2006 09:30 a.m. ... ... ... • Related articles and links ... ... ... Note: When covering international crises, such as the current fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, Christianity Today takes care to listen to evangelical Christian leaders in the places most affected. We may find their views corrective, provocative, or e ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Hizbollah just hit Nazareth with missiles. Is it safe to say that Islam ... by white tiger   7 year  1,728
     
    Hizbollah just hit Nazareth with missiles. Is it safe to say that Islam just declared war on Christianity? ... ... Wormwood in sleek aluminum containers. ... ... Ismael: A wild ass of a man, with his hand set toward everyone, and everyone’s hand set toward him. ... ... ... ”Behold, you are with child, and shall bear a son; you shall call his name Ishmael; because The Lord has given heed to your affliction. He shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against every man and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen.” (Genesis 16:11-12 RSV) ...   [End]
    • Re: Hizbollah just hit Nazareth with missiles. Is it safe to say that Is... by John Cullison   7 year  1,622
       
      ”Just” hit Nazareth? ... ... News on the 19th of July reported that Nazareth was ”just” hit then for the first time, killing two Arab boys. ... ... How many times are you going to prove how misinformed you are? I mean, after awhile, it’s comical. ... ... If you read the article I’ve linked to, you’ll see that Nazareth is an Arab town in Israel. Alert readers would wonder why Hezbollah’s rockets seem to favor killing Arabs, given Hezbollah’s beef with Jews, but I certainly won’t accuse you of being an alert reader. ...   [End]
      • Re: Hizbollah just hit Nazareth with missiles. Is it safe to say that Is... by #69242   7 year  1,598
         
        It would be safe to say ... ... ... We dont know the entire truth? ... ... ... ... It would be safe to say ... ... ... Hezbillah does not have the capability to pinpoint as does the Israeli army? ... ... ... It would be safe to say ... ... ... Read up on the history of this conflict?   [End]
      • Re: Hizbollah just hit Nazareth with missiles. Is it safe to say that Is... by white tiger   7 year  1,565
         
        In the New Testament, it is described as the childhood home of Jesus, and is a center of Christian pilgrimage, with many shrines commemorating biblical associations. ... ... Almost half the population of Nazareth are Christians   [End]
        • Re: According to this: Arab Nazareens call God ALLAH by #69242   7 year  1,756
           
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazareth ... ... ... there are more Muslims, but ALL ARAB. ... ... So does an Arab Christian finally make it to human status now? ...   [End]
          • Re: According to this: by John Cullison   7 year  1,556
             
            This part is informative: ... ... Some historians have called the city’s traditional association with the life of Jesus into question, suggesting instead that what was originally a title was corrupted (Nazarene) into the name of his hometown (alternately, Nazara or Nazaret or Nazareth). Alfred Loisy, for example, in The Birth of Christianity argues that Iesous Nazarene meant not ”from Nazareth”, but rather that his title was ”Nazarene.” ... Frank Zindler, managing editor of the American Atheist Press, has asserted that Nazareth did not exist in the first century. His arguments include the foll ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Image Embedded Re: According to this: by white tiger   7 year  1,713
               
              From Wikipedia ... ... ... St. Mary’s Well - This shrine, commemorating the Virgin Mary, is a symbol of Nazareth located at an ancient spring which is the only site definitely identified as dating from New Testament times. ... ... ... Nazareth (Arabic الناصرة an-Nāṣirah; Hebrew נָצְרַת, Standard Hebrew Náẓərat, Tiberian Hebrew Nāṣəraṯ) is an ancient town in the North District in Israel. In the New Testament, it is described as the childhood home of Jesus, and is a center of Ch ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: According to this: Arab Nazareens call God ALLAH by JesseCured   5 mon  750
             
            ... ... ... Yes, it seems that Arab Christians are looked at as ARABS first and foremost by the christian and Isreali communities. They are considered animals even though they are christians. It is very sad indeed when a brother is treated in this way. Such a lack of respect....God did not want us to be this way....I know that for SURE! Men are equal! The race you belong to doesn’t make you superior or inferior. Men have a choice to either live up to God’s precepts or not! Men who treat other men like animals are NOT living up to God’s precepts! Anyone who doesn’t understand this doesn’t ...   [retrieve this message]
  • News from around the world by #69242   7 year  672
     
    http://sabbah.biz/mt/   [End]
  • Galloway skewers Sky News on Sky News by John Cullison   7 year  1,562
     
    I really admire George Galloway. He says it like it is. See here.   [End]
  • The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by #69242   7 year  1,567
     
    I found a somewhat summary of the situation regarding Israel, Moses and the Land of Canaan. For the interested with open minds its well written with proof from the Bible. ... ... http://www.samsloan.com/isaac.htm   [End]
    • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by white tiger   7 year  1,589
       
      with proof from the Bible?!?!?! ... ... You don’t believe in the Bible ... ... the Qur’an does not explicitly mention whether the son whom God commanded to sacrifice was Ishmael or Isaac. ... ... Genesis 16: ... ... 11 ”You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael (God hears), for the LORD has heard of your misery. ... ... 12 ”He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers. ... ... The well of Hagar in ... Genesis 16 was named Beer lahai-roi (”Well of the Living One who Sees Me” or as ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by #69242   7 year  1,554
         
        The bible has some truth, but has been TAMPERED WITH over the centuries, and the high Priests acknowledge this, but you dont? ---thats funny---- ... ... ... ... ... ... BOOK AUTHOR INFO ... ... ... Matthew Unknown 100 – 140 CE ... Mark Unknown 90 CE + ... Luke Unknown 100 – 140 CE ... John Unknown 100 – 140 CE ... Acts Unknown 120 – 160 CE (same author that wrote the final version of Luke) ... Romans Paul 60 CE ... 1 Corinthians Paul 55 CE ... 2 Corinthians Paul 55 CE ... Galatians Paul 51 CE ... Ephesians Uncertain 85 CE; Attributed to Paul ... Philippians Paul 59 CE ... Colossians Paul 78 CE ... 1 Thessalonians Paul 49 CE ... 2 Thessalonians ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by #69242   7 year  1,504
           
          http://www.islamdenouncesantisemitism.com/article6.htm ... ... ... It does not matter anymore. If you want to believe , then believe how you will. ... But the truth is out there, and people have open minds and can see, regardless of their faith. ... ... My time is up here, I have other things to do, there is no torch to hand to another, but the fresh breeze of truth will continue to fill the earth, no matter how many smoke stacks children build. As with all things, the truth will be known. ... ...   [End]
          • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by white tiger   7 year  1,629
             
            Everybody finds what is truth to them. ... ... Because someone does not believe your truth, does not mean you should have anger and hate for all who believe different than you. ... ... I have read and compared the koran and the Bible. I have studied the histories and origins of both before making the decision that was right for me. ... ... Our paths are different, but we came from the same family   [End]
            • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by #69242   7 year  1,528
               
              The only anger you sense is your own then, because I already stated, it doesnt matter to me whether you see the way I do or not. Dont twist words on purpose, it gets old. ... ... ... ... And it does not matter if you studied the Quran or not, if you are against it from the beginning then.......well what is the point only to say ”I know!” ... ... people, just look at them across the world killing and lying and thieving. ... Then look at a sparrow. By the One who gave me life, some animals are better than humans. ... ... ... Do not disregard all life. Every human is equal unto the Sight of God, the only Creator. Wh ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by white tiger   7 year  1,553
           
          Don’t forget that Muhammad claimed in Suras 2:87, 29:46, 32:23, 5:44, 6:154, 6:155 that Allah confirmed the Torah (Taurat) and Christian Gospel (Injeel) (Sura 2:87, 5:46, 5:68, 29:46 and 43:63). So, if the Torah and Gospel are correct, all the errors in the Qur’an shown below make the Qur’an false. ... ... A tenet of Islam is that both Mohammed and Jesus of Nazareth were both Muslims. Islam says both were prophets sent by Allah. If this were true, then it is mandatory that these two great prophets must coincide exactly in all points and never contradict each other. Did not the same Al ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Image Embedded Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by white tiger   7 year  1,599
           
          Islam doesn’t even have an original Qur’an. It was made up supposedly from ”memory” and a few scraps found under a bed. This was about 150 - 200 years after Muhammad died at his wife Ayish’s home in Medina, and he was lowered into a hole in the ground, where he remains. ... ... Zaid b. Thabit said: “The Prophet died and the Qur’an had not been assembled into a single place.” (p. 118, Ahmad b. `Ali b. Muhammad al `Asqalani, ibn Hajar, ”Fath al Bari”, 13 vols, Cairo, 1939/1348, volume 9, page 9) ... ... Zuhri reports, ’We have heard that many Qur’an passages were revealed but that those who had memo ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by #69242   7 year  1,503
             
            blah blah blah blah blah blah ... ... it took you that long to reply? ... ... work harder than that, dont you have more? fill up the entire page! There is enough hate in cyberland! ... ... I am content, happy, peaceful... ... ... ... I dont read christian propaganda towards muslims, Arabs, Quran- no credibilitiy.   [End]
            • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by white tiger   7 year  1,506
               
              The ancient Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagent proves the Bible has never changed   [End]
              • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by #68716   7 year  1,464
                 
                Actually the dead sea scrolls, paint a much different story than the racist Bible and Torah, which have been changed to include a false racism not attributed to G-d.   [End]
                • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by white tiger   7 year  1,620
                   
                  ”They” could not have changed the Christian Gospels after Muhammad, since there are around 5,300 manuscripts of the whole or part of the Greek text of the New Testament (Injil) pre-dating Muhammad still in existence. Worldwide, there are 24,800 copies of these original manuscripts. These include the Codex Vaticanus (325-350 AD) located in the Vatican library and the Codex Siniaticus (350 AD) located in the British Museum. There are also 80,000 quotations in the works of early Christian writers which are so extensive that the New Testament could virtually be reconstructed from them without ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by venkvelaga   7 year  1,612
                     
                    Hey great research White Tiger. My findings are pretty much the same. ... As far as what is going on in the middle east. I just see it as two brothers going at it and killing each others. Definately not what GOD wants. NoOne is in the right. I just stay away from them. ... ... -Venk   [End]
              • Re: The Land of Canaan, who does it belong to? by #69242   7 year  1,480
                 
                Again I dont mind we dont agree! ... ... Live and let live. ... ... Have a good day.   [End]
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