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  • Seborrheic Dermatitis caused by metal toxicity, need help by bjornbjorn   10 days  117  Seborrheic Dermatiti / Ask CureZo / Dental Sup / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    I have never had problems with Seborrheic Dermatitis until I did a detox with zeolite while having amalgams in. This was three years ago and I still have problems. I know this was the cause as my hair was thick and not falling out. When I started the detox, my scalp was itchy and it flared up with Seborrheic Dermatitis. It hasn’t gone away and I am working on it but looking for suggestions. ... ... I am currently on round 7 of the Andy Cutler Protocol and nothing has changed as of yet. The reason the detox with zeolite failed was because I still had amalgam fillings in my mouth, this caused th ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Does the Bob Beck Protocol work for Hair Fungus and Seborrheic Dermatiti... by bjornbjorn   11 days  83  Dr. Beck / Eczema/Exc / Hair Loss / 4
     
    I have seborrheic dermatitis on my scalp with hair loss. I was just wondering if the bob beck protocol will work for this or if anyone has had any success?   [End]
  • bob beck and lyme? by jman2007   23 days  61
     
    does it help kickstart the methylation cycle for toxin release?   [End]
  • sota or klemens super magentic pulser? by #81553   23 days  62
     
    which one?   [End]
    • Re: sota or klemens super magentic pulser? by jaguar57   18 days  59
       
      Klemens claims his pulser is 7 times more powerful than others and that it can pulse as fast as 25 times every second. (see http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~aklemens/magneticpulser.htm) Below are the calculations that disprove his claims. ... ... First let’s examine how ”powerful” his is. ... The coil is 10mH and the capacitor is 22,000uf. If you use the RLC Simulator at http://www.coilgun.info/mark2/rlcsim.htm and use these inputs: 330 volts (same as other pulsers which is common because that is what photo-flash capacitors are rated at), 1.4 ohms (normal for 10mH 18AWG coil), 22,000uf (22mF), ...   [retrieve this message]
  • problem making collidal by jman2007   23 days  36
     
    i have a silver puppy and sota silver maker and they both seem to take longer and longer to make silver with lower and lower ppms ... ... questions ... not sure what im doing wrong ... ... should i be putting a conductor in the water? ... should i be cleaning the wires a certain way? ... Should i be covering the silver as i make it? ... should i be storing them a certain way? ... ... anything else i should do while making or storing the equipment im not sure of?   [End]
  • HELP ME, I have hair loss from Stress by bjornbjorn   27 days  218  Hair Loss / Demodex Mi / Hair / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    My hair is falling out in clumps, I believe it to be from stress. There is nobody in my family that is bald or that has receding hairlines (even 90 year old grandparents). I have been stressed for the past year and have tried to stop stressing about things. As of late I am not as stressed but my hair is still falling out. ... ... It has been falling out for 6 months now mainly on the frontal region. How do I get this to grow back fast? Also I think the stress has caused dermatitis as well, which I am sure is not helping. ... ... Any suggestions are much appreciated.   [End]
    • Re: HELP ME, I have hair loss from Stress by Steve888   27 days  230
       
      http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2057461#i   [End]
    • Re: HELP ME, I have hair loss from Stress by kushy   25 days  167
       
      Have sufficient sleep at night atleast 7 hrs every day.I am applying an oil (mixing almond,coconut and til oils)warming it ... and then applying it to scalp with cotton and massage it well, keep it for minimum an hour and have head bath.   [End]
      • Re: HELP ME, I have hair loss from Stress by christinehrgett   8 days  62
         
        Stress is one common cause of hair loss, we cannot deny that, though we can say hair loss is quite natural but too much hair loss that lead to balding is not good especially for women. We need to have always a good rest, have a healthy diet and don’t immediately use certain hair product.   [End]
    • Re: HELP ME, I have hair loss from Stress by Cre4tive   5 days  38
       
      I’ve read a couple of your posts. Thanks for sharing your journey as you try to resolve this difficult and frustrating condition. ... ... I’ve got the same as you. SD of the scalp causing itching and hair loss all over the scalp but mostly at the front. Also I can see some faint lesions on my scalp. It has recently spread to my eyebrows after being exclusively on my scalp for about 5 years. ... ... Ketoconazole, Terbinafine, Coconut oil, AVC, Tea Tree oil etc have all failed to work. Ketoconazole reduces the symptoms slightly but does not cure it. ... ... I’ve got a couple of questions for you: ... ... 1. Yo ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: HELP ME, I have hair loss from Stress by bjornbjorn   4 days  51
         
        Hi Cre4tive, ... ... I am almost a 100% sure that my Seb Dermatitis is from Mercury. I have never had hair loss, seb dermatitis or eczema before. There is one thing that happened to me that caused it all. ... ... I had amalgams in my mouth and tried to chelate, while chelating I had full body eczema and hair loss from seb dermatitis. ... ... I now have my eczema under control or almost. I have a little eczema on my tricep are on both arms. I also have hair loss on the whole head but mainly the frontal region. ... ... The water fast has done nothing and nothing I have tried has done anything. The only thing t ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: HELP ME, I have hair loss from Stress by Cre4tive   52 h  29
           
          Hi Rob ... ... Thanks for the response. Please report back on the progress you make from the clay. ... ... From my research online I’ve seen that this problem is so common with almost identical symptoms on people so I’m surprised there is still no medical cure for it. ... ... Have you tried the anti-candida approach in the past and failed? i.e. have you taken probiotics and stuff like Oregano oil and Caprylic acid while maintaining a strict anti-fungal diet for an extended period and saw no results? ... ... I have read from some people online they got rid of the condition by eliminating candida from inside. ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: HELP ME, I have hair loss from Stress by bjornbjorn   50 h  32
             
            Thanks for the response, I will let you know my findings. We will get to the bottom of this. I have coverage from a Naturopathic doctor and know I dont have a leaky cut or candida. If you dont know what leaky gut is look it up, it may give some insight on everything. I healed leaky gut as well as candida through supplements and diet. I also have water kefir and sauerkraut. They are cheap, easy and really help.   [End]
  • Bob Beck protocol and inflammation / Candida by seedsower   27 days  187  Dr. Beck / Prostate / Candida Su
     
    Hello all, If you look through this web page, you will find some solid information that points to......” electric / magnetic impulsive...’type stuff’ ... ... Yes....I know that I know that I know VERY LITTLE!! ... ... BUT I want to know more! I have an inflamed epididymis and the doc says chronic inflammation...I say some electrical / magnetic impulse appplied directly to testcile area that is inflammed will help ... ... Can someone substantiate this? Is this a good idea? what is the best equipment? I am very confused but hopeful by this! thank you! ... ... ... http://hulda-clark-quack.com/huldaclarkzapperworks ...   [retrieve this message]
    • PEMF and my inflammation by seedsower   27 days  138
       
      Hello friends ... ... all sorts of cool information out there regarding the efficacy of PEMF But I am new to this (as in just discovered it this morning!!!) ... ... The Bob beck protocol seems to be whole body healing ... ... I have one small area to treat - epididymis is chronically imflammed... BUT ONE huge PAIN ... ... seeing as some make your own and others spend between a few hundred to thousands....I am wondering where to start.. ... ... Thank you all ... ... how does PEMF relate to Bob Beck - same / not same / complementary.... ... ... which unit do you recommend for an issue that the doc says is ”chronically inflam ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: PEMF and my inflammation by dave505   27 days  130
         
        Seeds ... Is your colon flora ok? Usually colon infections pass to epididymis - if not solved continuos inflammation appear . ... It is said that zZapping is helping for bacterial infection and also colloidal silver. ... We use also raw propolis for that   [End]
    • Re: Bob Beck protocol and inflammation / Candida by sans sucre   27 days  134
       
      Don’t know about zapping, but serrapeptase is AWESOME for chronic inflammation. Took away all the arthritic pain and stiffness and trigger fingers in my hands. Nothing else did anything.   [End]
  • Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by mattleecarter   28 days  263  Dr. Beck / CFS, ME, C / Alternativ / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    hey guys, ... ... I have been using all stages of the bob beck protocol ( with SOTA instruments ) for 7weeks to try bet my Chronic Fatigue syndrome I have been dealing with for 8months. ... ... Just need some help and support from anyone that has had success with it and If I should keep going. My goal is to do 4months. ... ... my protocol - 2hr minimum of Blood pulsing / Magnetic pulsing daily , drinking 1-2 L of ozone water and 250ml ( sometimes more on bad days ) of SOTA brewed colloidal silver w/ distilled water. ... ... Thanks!   [End]
    • Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by jaguar57   18 days  171
       
      Colloidal Silver can quickly accumulate in the body and then contribute to your chronic fatigue. I recommend discontinuing it. ... Chronic fatigue in itself means almost nothing because fatigue is a primary symptom of most diseases. You have to know the cause of it. If you have the viral type then it is more than fatigue, it feels like a mild form of the flu. That is what I had and here is a quick version of my story: ... I showed all the classical symptoms of CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome which is caused primarily by a virus such as Epstein Barr) since 1980 when I lived in ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by Hadasah   18 days  184
         
        ... I’m sorry, but I disagree with what you said about colloidal silver. Silver is only technically a ’heavy metal’. It’s actually a transitional metal, meaning that it doesn’t stay in the body for long. ... I have been using it for a long time with beautiful results for my lungs and any infections I’ve had, whether bacterial or viral. ... ... Here is what the EPA says about silver: ... ... According to the EPA IRIS Report on silver (Integrated Risk Information Systems, 5th page, 1st paragraph) it states that a number of tests were completed to test the absorption and retention of ingested silver in a n ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by jaguar57   11 days  98
           
          the following is from the same paper you refer to. Humans retain 4.4% of silver. ... ... The authors used the data from the dog to estimate how much silver ingested by a 70 kg human would be retained. An ”equilibrium factor” of 4.4% was determined by integrating from zero to infinity a retention equation which assumes a triphasic elimination pattern for silver with the initial elimination of 90% coming from the dog data. The first elimination half-time of 0.5 days was used ”arbitrarily”; subsequent half-times of 3.5 days and 41 days were taken from a metabolic study by Polachek et al. (1960). F ...   [retrieve this message]
  • David Delight Pro AVE&CES device - I am looking for anyone's experiences by Diego55   38 days  168  Dr. Beck / Anxiety / Depression / 4 / 5
     
    I have been using your device on and off since September last year (I also used it daily for some time after I purchased it), but unfortunately, I did not recognize any improvement in terms of my social anxiety, mood, or depression. And it definitely didnt help me with my anxiety issues (this is also the main reason for which I decided to buy the device). And even, I didn’t experience any major improvement in terms of better concentration or learnig, for example with aid of SMR/Beta session (13.5 - 18Hz). I really dont know, but it seems like this unit is probably not suitable for my condi ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Rife and Pacemakers. by #151217   38 days  115  Radionics / Body Elect / Dr. Beck / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Does anyone know if it is alright to use a Rife machine when one has a pacemaker? ...   [End]
  • Anyone dealt with bacterial infection with mag pulser? by #170629   39 days  148  Dr. Beck / Prostate
     
    So can anyone honestly say they’ve had success with the mag pulser against bacterial problems? Trying to hit a prostate infection, very difficult area to reach. All else has failed.   [End]
    • Re: Anyone dealt with bacterial infection with mag pulser? by Steve888   39 days  133
       
      The magpulser will get the lymph flowing but will not destroy bacterial infections. The Blood Electrifier combined with colloidal silver 4-8oz/day is the right tool for this job: ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlC-YcWNWAc ... ... ... Steve   [End]
  • Newbie :) Dr R Beck Blood Electrifier by Glowstone   41 days  229  Dr. Beck / AIDS Suppo / Candida Su / 4
     
    Hello everyone! ... ... Im new here and would to build a blood electrifier. Has anyone here done this? ... ... Has anyone used one yet?.. or have any more information other than what can be found in the discussion paperwork/ field manual that I have..its pretty old. ... ... Great website!Thank you all ... ... Glow   [End]
  • New Free PDF on how to zap by parazapper   44 days  392  Zapper Support / Dr. Beck / Parasites / 4 / 5
     
    While this is nowhere near as complete as the 80 page booklet ”Parasite Zapping and the Zapper”, available at http://paradevices.com it does provide good information on zapping. ... ... http://paradevices.com/how_to_zap.pdf ...   [End]
    • Re: New Free PDF on how to zap by david1o1   19 days  112
       
      I have read you pdf. ... ... You have made a pdf which helps to people to understand this tech, so kudos for that. ... But ! I have found several inaccuracies, unproven statements : ... ... [quote] ... All Hulda Clark Parasite Zappers produce a square wave output. This square wave is composed ... of all odd harmonics of the main frequency. These harmonics effectively stretch up into the ... megahertz range, which is where parasites are affected. The 30 kHz frequency produces a range of ... frequencies that are 60 kHz apart. The 2.5 kHz range produces harmonics that are 5.0 kHz apart. ... [/quote] ... So how do expect to ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: New Free PDF on how to zap by parazapper   19 days  111
         
        - So how do expect to damage/stun helminths by using frequencies which are 5000Hz apart when Hulda Clark mentionned in her first book that depending on their growth state, the parasite has a specific set of frequencies of a few Hz ? It does not make sense to me. Eggs, larvaes, adults worms do not necessarily share the same frequencies. ... ... If you observe the video ParaZapper Works , you can see many different microbes in the mix, and some that you can not see. By the end of the video, All are dead. Of course, this is in a confined situation. But it goes to the point that when applied for a ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: New Free PDF on how to zap by david1o1   18 days  144
           
          Please forgive my words if they were a bit harsh. But i think that if i sometimes question your concepts and claims and if you do the same with what i post here, we will make more progress. ... ... ... ... [quote] ... If you observe the video ParaZapper Works , you can see many different microbes in the mix, and some that you can not see. By the end of the video, All are dead. Of course, this is in a confined situation. But it goes to the point that when applied for a long enough period of time, any single frequency between 10 Hz and 500 kHz will kill many microbes. ... [/quote] ... What do you mean by ”mic ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: New Free PDF on how to zap by parazapper   18 days  105
             
            - DA? ... ... District Attorney ... ... ... ... ...   [End]
            • Re: New Free PDF on how to zap by david1o1   18 days  116
               
              [quote] ... It is not the multicellular form that is the problem, but the flexibility and lower level of polarization that is present in higher organisms. It is the combination of polarization and rigidity that allows the effects of resonance to be used. ... [/quote] ... The elasticity of the membrane of the cells or the way they attach to each others to form tissues may limit the impact of an electric signal. ... But what i meant by a multi cells organism being more tough is that if some cells of a helminth body are damaged either by the electric signal, or by the immune system cells once the helmint ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Bob Beck Protocol Testimonials by mattleecarter   51 days  291  CFS, ME, CFIDS / Dr. Beck / Fibromyalg
     
    Hey guys! ... ... Just wondering if anyone can share some good bob beck testimonial links. ... ... Thanks! ... ... Ps. Im in my 4th week of the bob beck protocol to try beat chronic fatigue syndrome. I have noticed the past week or so my energy has been even lower than usual. Which is a good sign the protocol is doing something. :) ... ... Talk soon!   [End]
  • Does Magnetic pulser worsen a Inguinal hernia? by tigerbirdy456   52 days  247  Dr. Beck / Hernia / Diet & Nut / 4 / 5
     
    I was wondering if you have any advice about using the magnetic pulser on hernias? ... My brother had a hernia situation since childhood..where if he coughed too hard or sneezed too hard, he would get a bump in the groin area..then he could easily push it back down..and it was never really painful. I let my brother use the magentic pusler machine for 1 month (he also used silver pulser), and now his hernia hurts. ..as in when he standing it hurts the hernia.... ... ... ... Im sure it could have been some recent straining or whatever that caused it...... but he used to strain a lot and it never happe ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Mazzilli zvs flyback to power Dr. Beck's blood electrifier circuit. by Freeformcreation   53 days  227  Dr. Beck / Electro-Me
     
    Hello all builders and experiments. I have tried out the very simple Mazzilli zvs to power Dr. Beck’s blood electrifier circuit. It works well and can be modified easily to adjust to input voltages. Mine is running off 12v and steps it up to 33v. You will need to wind your own transformer which is a very small task. To give you an idea the primary is 10 turns center tapped and secondary is around 20. You’ll need a voltmeter to test your voltage. Also the zvs flyback is good for capacitor bank charging for the magnetic pulser. Just wind to output desired voltage 400v, 500v ect. Charges up m ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Mazzilli zvs flyback to power Dr. Beck's blood electrifier circuit. by kscmac   53 days  206
       
      Can you show us a schematic? Would like to try your circuit. Thanks for sharring. I have a circuit that takes a 9volt battery to 333VDC to use with the Beck electrifier. Will share.   [End]
      • Re: Mazzilli zvs flyback to power Dr. Beck's blood electrifier circuit. by Freeformcreation   52 days  219
         
        http://attemptedmaker.blogspot.com/2012/06/zvs-flyback-driver.html?m=1 ... There is a link to the circuit. It is well known in the high voltage community. I used a transformer that I did the secondary windings on. That is the only change i’ve made from the linked circuit. Ferrite core of about 1/4 inching thickness. As started it took about 20 turns on the secondary to achieve desired output. The ferrite core does get a little warm, but the other components stay cool without a heatsink on the irfp250s. The output is ac and needs to be rectified. I use a full wave bridge rectifier to make it d ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by mattleecarter   56 days  609  CFS, ME, CFIDS / Dr. Beck / Colloidal / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Hey everyone. ... ... Just need some help and insight. ... ... Ive had chronic fatigue for about 8 months now ( also got elevated LFT test, which im in the process of finding out why ) ... Been doing the bob beck protocol ( minus the ozone water ) for almost 4 weeks. ... ... Ive only noticed in the last few days I have lost even more energy to do my daily things ( 10min walk - 1-4 hours of activity on the computer ) - Cant do that, mostly bed ridden & light movement around the house. ... ... Is this normal? ... ... Im wondering if it could be caused by the bob beck protocol or if my LFT are constantly elevated ca ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by Johny Apple Bomb   56 days  453
       
      The ozonated water is meant to clean out the die off and elimination channels so you will feel better while doing the protocol. You can get a cheap one on ebay. ... ... Maybe you don’t have an infection. Something else could be wrong.   [End]
      • Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by mattleecarter   55 days  392
         
        Yeah my Liver Function Tests are elevated and have been while i’ve been ill, So I feel that the chronic fatigue is due to the problem with my liver. ... ... Do you also this chronic fatigue is due to a problem in the body that doctors cant find? ... ... Do you think it would be worth my wild getting a Ozonated ? Do you know any good brands? How much should I be spending do you think? ... ... ... I havent experienced any bad die off stages yet - fourth week in ... ... Do you think I should continue the bob beck protocol till the doctors find a cause for my chronic fatigue, that way I havent wasted time and ju ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by mattleecarter   55 days  374
         
        http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/600mg-OZONE-Generator-Ozonizer-Ozonator-Purifier-Corona-/320623677299?pt=AU_Home_Environmental_Solutions&hash=item4aa6a90f73&_uhb=1#ht_14372wt_1115 ... ... Do you think that is a good ozone generator? ... ... Do you have any good videos or links on Ozone Water ? Im interested in doing more research.   [End]
        • Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by wateroflife   54 days  363
           
          I cannot help you specifically, but a great video spoke about how the liver metabolizes sugars and it was surprising to know how stressed it can become with ordinary foods. It just might increase your knowledge and could cause you to think of triggers. ... ... Google it: Sugar, the bitter truth - 1.5hrs.   [End]
        • Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by Johny Apple Bomb   54 days  410
           
          http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/600mg-OZONE-Generator-Ozonizer-Ozonator-Purifier-Corona-/320623677299?pt=AU_Home_Environmental_Solutions&hash=item4aa6a90f73&_uhb=1#ht_14372wt_1115 ... ... ... Do you think that is a good ozone generator? ... ... Do you have any good videos or links on Ozone Water ? Im interested in doing more research. ... ... ... JAB ... ... Looks like a good ozonator to me. ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fDlxTAi8sF0&feature=endscreen   [End]
  • Finally feeling some die-off. by Elliemare   59 days  348  Dr. Beck / Zapper Sup
     
    I have been using my Bob Beck blood purifier for the past several days. I’ve been using it for about 2 hours each day, sometimes more but not always 2 hours continuously, although that is what I shoot for. ... ... I haven’t felt much die-off, no herx reaction at all... until today. Ugh, I feel terrible. ... ... I did my usual routine, I pulsed for 2 hours while I read. I’ve been drinking plenty of silver and water, I had a smoothie for breakfast and now I feel like crap. I’m headachy, dizzy and nauseous. ... ... Any ideas why it took so long to catch up with me? How long does it take for these sympt ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Finally feeling some die-off. by Johny Apple Bomb   56 days  274
       
      Any ideas why it took so long to catch up with me? How long does it take for these symptoms to subside? I’m glad something is finally happening, but I just feel awful. ... ... ... JAB ... ... That smoothy you drank may have something slightly toxic in it that is being amplified by the pulsing. ... ... Should be drinking ozonated water before and after pulsing. I would usually stop and wait until I felt better. To give the body time to detox.   [End]
    • Re: Finally feeling some die-off. by jaguar57   43 days  235
       
      Probably due to the slow movement of lymph fluid. Could be that it took you 3 days to get it moving and to start dumping its trash into the bloodstream. ... everyone is completely stupid about the all important functions of the lymph. please read http://www.dragonfly75.com/eng/lymph.html ... People get stupider as technology increases because we rely on it instead of exploring and learning how to think.   [End]
  • suggestions please, what to buy by Cassidy336   62 days  194
     
    I found Hulda Clark info a few months ago and bought a cheap zapper which has worked pretty well. Then, I found the info on Bob Beck. When you Google it, so many things come up and I don’t want to re-invent the wheel. What should I buy and from where? I don’t have any major issues to deal with, just want to maintain health for my family (which includes little kids who pick up colds & things). Thanks! ...   [End]
    • Re: suggestions please, what to buy by Johny Apple Bomb   62 days  176
       
      If no serious illness I would just get a Vitamix and maybe a good juicer like an Omega 8004. Drink some fresh juice every other day. Plenty of fruits. ... ... Then get a silver maker like a Silver Puppy Just in case you get a stomach flu or sore throat. ... ... Take a few supplements like Lugols Iodine, and D3 in the winter. You won’t get sick.   [End]
      • Re: suggestions please, what to buy by Johny Apple Bomb   62 days  196
         
        I use the Sota brand for the Blood Cleanser and Magnetic Pulser. For the ozonator you can get something cheap off ebay. ... ... When I was on the protocol I drank 8 ounces of silver per day made with a silver puppy in distilled water. The silver puppy is less trouble with the auto shut off and stirrer.   [End]
    • Re: suggestions please, what to buy by jaguar57   61 days  186
       
       please take a look at my Microbe Electrifier. I am sure you will see why it is the most advanced Beck device. ...   [End]
  • Beck and clark by #68716   67 days  218  Dr. Beck / Hulda Clar
     
    Hi! I did Beck protocol for almost 2 months now, I have a week left. I see some results but I want to try Clark’s cleanse for more results . I received my mini zapper and herbs to do a parasite, kidney, bowel and liver cleanse but I’m not sure when to start. I want to continue with the colloidal silver twice daily. Any advice please? ...   [End]
    • Re: Beck and clark by jaguar57   61 days  194
       
      yeah, stop taking the silver. It is only safe to take for a short period during crisis unless you want to have an overabundance of silver (which some people consider a heavy metal) in your body. If you don’t believe me go ahead and do a hair mineral analysis right now to see you’ve probably already absorbed too much.   [End]
      • Re: Beck and clark by Ahokok   59 days  152
         
        Cool thanks! I’ve notice my hair have a lot more split ends now I thought maybe it was because of the electrification but maybe it’s the silver? And also maybe I didn’t get much result because I wasn’t eating enough and I only use the magnetic pulser for 2 and a half hour only once a day instead of twice. Anyways I’m glad I’m finally done with the beck stuff. I dont think it was a waste of time but from now on I’m gonna keep things simple and let the ”Power of God”do the rest.   [End]
  • BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by mattleecarter   68 days  783  CFS, ME, CFIDS / Dr. Beck / Colloidal / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Hey everyone! ... ... Im suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome for about 7 months now ( my full story is here. http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2044138 ) ... ... Just started the Bob Beck Protocol a week ago. Just want to know if it has helped anyone with chronic fatigue or fatigue in general? I havent feel any side effects but today I have been hit hard with some fatigue. ... ... Love to hear your stories. Length of treatment / side effects / success? ... ... Thanks! ... ... ps. I have elevated LFT blood results ( liver function tests ). Im seeing a gastroenterologist soon but they have been rising since ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by Telman   67 days  521
       
      Tell your gastroenterologist that you have fibromyalgia because 40% of people with fibromyalgia will get IBS type symptoms. Only 2% have IBS in the general population. A gastroenterologist will usually concentrate of the gastric problems and not take into account fibromyalgia. ... ... I have also trialled the Bob Beck protocol: ... ... The blood cleaning didn’t appear to have any benefit in me. ... ... However, I did build a high power electro pulse zapper and the family were amazed that when it was applied to some moles on my neck which I had had for years they dried out and disappeared with 2 weeks. So ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by mattleecarter   67 days  445
         
        Thanks for your reply ... I understand that CHRONIC FATIGUE AND FIBRO are very similar, But I dont have joint pain only muscle pain after I do exercise or push myself. I also dont get most of the IBS symptoms. ... ... Why should I tell him I have FIBRO? ... ... How long did you do the BOB BECK PROTOCOL for ? ... ... I imagine that the bob beck protocol is going to take a few months to beat chronic fatigue as it is a very tuff illness. ... ... Thoughts?   [End]
        • Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by Telman   66 days  499
           
          I sorry that my post was imprecise. I too was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in 1994 but another doctor on another day may have diagnosed fibromyalgia. ... ... I have followed a treatment plan for fibromyalgia which was very similar to CFS. ... ... I suffered from all 5 types of CFS over time including gastric but there wasn’t any cure available through my doctor, although I did find help here on curezone. ... ... The tools that helped me most were: ... ... A good not taxing Diet (I chose the HAY diet) ... Plenty of rest ... Relaxation in the afternoon ... Stretch and rhythmic exercise ... Dumping medication for ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by JrDavis   67 days  456
       
      Diet, Gluten, etc. ... ... The fatigue could be caused by rouleaux. ... ... Which the protocol would address. ... ... Make sure though that you are getting ozonated water. The water removes the toxins from the blood. ... ...   [End]
      • Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by mattleecarter   67 days  420
         
        I do not have a water Ozonator. ... ... Could I just have Distilled water or Filtered Water, That way its basically pure water? ... ... Do you use Ozonator ? Have you experienced a change ? If so how long till it take?   [End]
  • Becks Opinion on Vitamin A and other Substances on the Protocol. by JrDavis   68 days  244  Dr. Beck / Diet & Nut / Diet & Cli
     
    Would anyone know what substances to stay away from while doing this protocol. ... ... I’m going shopping soon (Gluten Free, GMO free, Low Protein/Fat) and I need to make sure my diet is suited for this protocol. ... ... Due to the fact that Beck said NO VITAMIN A OR GARLIC FAMILY. ... ... ... So what else was it that you can’t have? ... ... I don’t take any prescription drugs, Other than Cannabis which I don’t think is. ... ... I know that wont be an issue. ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkiX0jJJozk ... ... In the video he says ”No Vitamin A” you can hear someone else go ”What about Vitamin C?!” and he says ”We fo ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Becks Opinion on Vitamin A and other Substances on the Protocol. by Johny Apple Bomb   68 days  217
       
      He said to not use any supplements except for maybe a mineral supplement if you must. ... ... Eat enough meat. Don’t eat anything that could be toxic in larger amounts. ... ... And if you must use something toxic take it right after pulsing so you will have 24 hours to detox it. ... ... It depends on the individual. I didn’t have any problem eating whatever I wanted.   [End]
  • Would one large bout of diarrhea deplete electrolyte levels? by ferisong   69 days  294  Ask CureZone / Fasting: G / Fasting: W / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    I’d like to try water fasting, and I’ve read all of the dangers of electrolyte disbalance that go along with it. ... ... Today was supposed to be day 1 of a 2 week fast, but I had a large series of liquid stools upon waking, and now I’m thinking that I’ve depleted my reserves before I even got started. ... ... I’m not trying to lose weight, I’m not even overweight so I’m concerned that maybe my reserves arent very high to begin with. ... ... How much would one day of diarrhea effect electrolyte levels (potassium, sodium, etc) ... ... ...   [End]
  • treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by mattleecarter   71 days  630  Dr. Beck / CFS, ME, C / Body Elect / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Hey Everyone, ... ... Ill keep this as short and sweet as possible. ... ... MY STORY: ... Matt Carter, 23years old, 75 kg, Professional working DJ / MUSICIAN, Healthy Lifestyle & Outgoing, From Sydney Australia. ... ... My Chronic Fatigue: ... Suffering from a Unknown Cause of Chronic Fatigue since 2012 Aug. - 6 months prior to that I was sick on a fortnightly basis. ( flue, fatigue, low energy, really bad hangovers, Mind fog. ) ... ... Before I was in a chronic state of Chronic fatigue, I was working as a parttime dj 3-times a week ( usually late nights 9-12pm and later ) / studying a few days a week/ playi ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by Johny Apple Bomb   71 days  508
       
      BOB BECK PROTOCOL: ... ... I recently started the bob beck protocol in MARCH 2012 - Using the SOTA Silver Pulser & Magnetic Pulser and drinking Collodial Silver w/ distilled water. 250ml a day ( 8 oz ). Doing each for 2 hours a day. ... ... Im on this forum to see if anyone has any GOOD RESULTS from using the BOB BECK PROTOCOL Or Suffers from chronic fatigue or can help me in anyway. ... ... ... JAB ... ... Countless have had good results. Including me. Maybe it isn’t a 100% cure but it will help rid the body of infections and get the numbers down. ... ... ... Since: ... May 2012 ALT - 60 ... Oct 2012 ALT - 72 ... Jan 2012 ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by mattleecarter   71 days  478
         
        JAB: ... ... Thanks for replying but when your ALT / AST is up above 40, that isnt normal. Far from normal. ... ... I have also been tested for the HEP’s and they are so far came back negativity. ... ... I only started the BOB BECK PROTOCOL last week and thous tests were taking before I started. Its going to good to see if my ALTS go down. ( I find out tomorrow ) ... ... Thanks. ... ... How long till you noticed a difference in energy levels etc? ... ... From what I have read, people have been treated n seen great results in 3-4 weeks. Thoughts?   [End]
        • Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by mattleecarter   71 days  466
           
          SORRY I HAVE ALSO STATED THIS WRONG IN MY ORIGINAL POST: ... ... My BLOOD RESULTS: ... ... ... May 2012 ALT - 60 ... ... Oct 2012 ALT - 72 ... ... *** 2013 Jan ALT - 264 AST - 79 GGT -49 ... ... *** 2013 Feb ( early ) ALT- 328 AST- 94 ... ... *** 2013 March blood test - recieveing soon. ...   [End]
          • Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by Johny Apple Bomb   71 days  746
             
            So you have been steadily getting worse. If it’s an infection the Beck Protocol should help. ... ... The colloidal silver is known to get in the liver and kill hepatitis C. ... ... According to the first post in the link below. ... ... http://silverpuppy.com/testimonials.html ... ... One thing that’s good for the liver is to get a juicer and juice 1/2 a beat with a couple apples.   [End]
        • Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by Johny Apple Bomb   71 days  617
           
          How long till you noticed a difference in energy levels etc? ... ... From what I have read, people have been treated n seen great results in 3-4 weeks. Thoughts? ... ... ... JAB ... ... I don’t think it effects your energy levels much. Coconut oil and white cane sugar will raise energy levels. ... ... ... You might get flu like symptoms and have to back off the Beck Protocol especially if you don’t use ozonated water to detox. It basically sterilizes your blood and lowers the pathogen levels throughout the body. ... ... After you build up to 2 hours per day it should only take a month. ... ... Sometimes the tests are faul ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by JrDavis   68 days  439
             
            Yeah really weird he has gotten worse right? ... ... I used my Sota machine for about 2 weeks. ... ... My ALT and AST levels went down from 93 and 91 to 64 and 61. ... ... That’s a really good drop. ... ... I almost thought OP was getting the same results I had. ... ... I wonder why his levels are elevated anyway? ... ... Deodorant? Environmental toxins? What’s the deal? ... ... OP I request you get a Viral load count. ... ... Also drink lots of water. If you can’t get Ozonated get poland springs for the time being. ... ... I’ll follow. ... ... 2009 ALT 91 AST 94 ... 2013 ALT 64 AST 61 ... ... Use beck protocol from ... ... Dec 2012 - Jan 2013 ... ... I st ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Making Silver by littllemel   3 mon  278
     
    I am making silver with my SOTA pulser. How can I get smaller particle size? How can I measure the size of the particles? I have the meter that measures PPMs but not size.   [End]
    • Re: Making Silver by kscmac   3 mon  261
       
      If you are making colloidal silver the color will tell you the size, if you are making ionic silver it should be clear and you would have to send off to a lab to have size checked, Expensive   [End]
  • Blood Electrification by #168130   3 mon  300
     
    I know we are supposed to give up all drugs but what happens if I stay on my progesterone cream? If I go off this stuff its pretty ugly and it stays that way for months. My hormones take a long time to balance.   [End]
    • Re: Blood Electrification by Johny Apple Bomb   3 mon  270
       
      progesterone cream ... ... JAB ... ... That’s not really a drug. If you have to take anything just do it right after pulsing so you have 24 hours to detox it.   [End]
  • Becks opinion of Clark Zappers /35 1 by jaguar57   4 mon  542
     
    ”they don’t work” is what he said. ... I wouldn’t go that far. I think they do have some stimulatory effect on the immune system and so do help but I think they are a far cry from what Hulda Clark claimed about them. And I think in a contest with the Beck devices they would get the snot beat out of them. ... It bugs me that a certain seller of these weak devices is all too often posting on this forum which is about Beck devices. Beck would never ever use or promote a Clark device. Zapper posts should be kept on the zapper forums.   [End]
    • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers2 by parazapper   4 mon  477
       
      If that were so, based on your ideology, Beck protocol and Beck proponents should be kept out of the zapper support forum. ... ... That aside, While Beck was entitled to his opinion, I have heard very few who felt that the Beck Zapper was more effective than some of the better Clark zapper offshoots. ... ... If nothing else, Beck and Clark had their personal prejudices. These things often come naturally out of pride. ... ... It seems to me that as a follower of Beck, that you prefer to hide Clark from other potential followers rather than to have each person make a well informed decision. ... ... The Beck pr ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers3 by jaguar57   4 mon  427
         
        yes the Beck stuff should be kept out of the Clark Zapper forum. ... I get customers all the time telling me what great results they got with the Beck devices after failing with the Clark devices. ... Actually I do sell a modified Clark Zapper for use against candida. I used to sell one for general infections too but it was ineffective so I discontinued it. I go with whatever works and generally Clark and Rife don’t work.   [End]
        • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers4 by parazapper   4 mon  453
           
          see the following post. ...   [End]
        • Re: Becks tainted opinion of Clark Zappers5 by parazapper   4 mon  468
           
          I have had a number of customers come and buy zappers after Beck failed them. ... ... The original Clark zapper was limited but the serious technological improvements that have become available since 2000 have made a definite difference. ... ... The one part of the Beck protocol that makes the most difference is colloidal silver. ... ... As for zappers, the best part? Coming soon. ... ... As for the BBBE and the Pulser, They are both technically simple and cheap enough to build, especially when compared to the ParaZapper UZI or the ParaZapper MY, and if either the pulser or the BBBE was in any way noticeably ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Becks tainted opinion of Clark Zappers6 by jaguar57   4 mon  456
             
            What clouds the issue of effectiveness is that almost all Beck blood purifiers are of Becks last design which utilizes both electrodes on one wrist. Of course the results will be terrible because most of the electric current just crosses over right there at the wrist instead of coursing through the arteries. I stick to Becks original method which is both electrodes on both ankles or both wrists. That makes sure all the electric current goes through the arteries and affects the maximum amount of blood. My customers report success because they use it on both wrists. You hear stories of ineff ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Becks tainted opinion of Clark Zappers7 by kscmac   4 mon  428
               
              All the blood in your body passes that point on the wrist in just about 45 seconds. As long as the voltage is correct you will get the approx 100 to 200uA of current flow in the blood. Getting the electrodes in the right spot is critical. Going accross the heart could cause problems especially if you have an undiagnosed heart condition. The currents that Dr, Beck talk about are just for going the short distance on the wrist. If I was going the larger distance I would do it on the same side (ex:on right hand & right foot)just to be safe. Its too bad no one will do the research on different ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Becks tainted opinion of Clark Zappers8 by parazapper   4 mon  434
               
              - My customers report success because they use it on both wrists. ... ... That makes sense, just like many zapper customers use more up to date methods such as Augmentation electrodes where they have an electrode at each of the 4 extremities with 3 being positive and only one being negative. ... ... Early on when I first started promoting zappers, I found that the people who reported the least success were the ones who used wrist straps. This was mostly because of small contact area. ... ... As a result of what I found out, I became aware of limitations and worked to overcome those limits. ... ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: Becks tainted opinion of Clark Zappers9 by kscmac   4 mon  392
                 
                what voltage and currents are you using? the standard beck 27vpp and about 100uA current or the other which I think is just under 9vdc square wave with a 0.6vdc offset? Nit sure what the current is on that one.   [End]
                • Re: Becks tainted opinion of Clark Zappers10 by parazapper   4 mon  407
                   
                  Depends on the model. ... ... The UZI has an output of 10.5 volts and 8 ma. Roughly 84 mw compared to 13.5 mw for the BBBE at 50 ua and 27 volts. ... ...   [End]
                  • Re: Becks tainted opinion of Clark Zappers11 by kscmac   4 mon  418
                     
                    I think a VCO will cover a large band of frequencies while still having the square wave output. I will have to think on how long to give the sweep through the frequencies. Like 50KHz per square wave, which depending on the upper end of frequencies used may only take 10 to 15 seconds to sweep through them. You still need enough voltage to get through the skin to get to the bugs/virus/bacteria. Whats the highest frequency needed? The 555 is stable at 500KHz but some can go to 1MHz.   [End]
            • Re: Becks tainted opinion of Clark Zappers12 by tilltherewasyou   3 mon  420
               
              Hi, please can you elaborate on what you mean by placing both electrodes on both ankles or both wrists, does this mean an extra blood cleaning unit is required? also is there any other way to stop the current from the BBBE going across the skin instead of into the arteries? ... I was thinking of cutting a strip from a piece of thin rubber and placing it between the electrodes to minimise the chance of the current crossing the skin. ... I also have a Sota pulser and was thinking of taping it to my wrist so it covers both arteries and letting it run a few 20 min cycles after I had finished with th ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers13 by Johny Apple Bomb   3 mon  443
       
      Beck believed the Hulda Clark Zappers disabled the radionics of the pathogens. So Hulda Clark mistakenly believed that all the pathogens were themselves killed. ... ... Many are confused between the 2 zappers. Becks is a blood cleanser with specifications designed to penetrate to the arteries and deliver a certain electrical current. Only a Beck Approved device should be used for the Beck Protocol. ... ... The ankle area was one of the first areas that Beck applied the device. But later he thought the wrist area was better as it has much more blood flow closer to the skin. High blood flow is necessa ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers14 by tilltherewasyou   3 mon  390
         
        Hi, I am new to Electromedicine and would like to know if it is safe to put one electrode from my BBBE on each wrist during treatment, I have heard some people say that this could be dangerous as it could cause fibrillation by `crossing the heart`, is this true? ... Also is this a much more effective way of delivering the current into the blood as the electricity cannot take the shortest route across the skin, like if you had two electrodes close together on one wrist? Please help! Many thanks.   [End]
        • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers15 by kscmac   3 mon  392
           
          I would do the same side wrist & ankle. If you have a heart condition or pacemaker going across could cause some issues. Try it across the wrist first to see how it works for you, Going across the heart just is not a good idea. But using the electrodes on the same side does not go through the heart.   [End]
          • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers16 by jaguar57   3 mon  435
             
            Assuming that most of the current is traveling inside the arteries leaves no possibility for the current to enter the heart. That is due to the left and right branch of the arteries joining not at the heart but above it. Go to dragonfly75.com/eng/safety.html to see the explanation.   [End]
            • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers17 by kscmac   3 mon  350
               
              The voltage and current required to go that distance is not the same as it is just for the wrist. I have not seen any research for going farther into the body. Beck just did on the wrist. So he knew there was was a electric/magnetic field arounf the wrist area. Any bigger distance don’t know if the fields form or make the fields complete? I am always looking for any research that would give an answer. I would put a set on each wrist to double the blood flow coverage. If anybody has seen any other reaearch I would love to read it.   [End]
            • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers18 by david1o1   5 days  23
               
              [quote] ... Assuming that most of the current is traveling inside the arteries leaves no possibility for the current to enter the heart. ... [/quote] ... I have had really bad experiences by using one positive electrode on one hand and one negative electrode on the other hand, with a ”risky” intensity (more than 20ma) during a too long time (more than 30min). It definitively disturbs the heart beat and i think it can be fatal if your heart or beating mechanism is too weak. ... If the bob beck blood purifier is 36V, and if there is enough contact surface between the electrodes and the skin, and if the ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers19 by Johny Apple Bomb   3 mon  404
           
          Hi, I am new to Electromedicine and would like to know if it is safe to put one electrode from my BBBE on each wrist during treatment, I have heard some people say that this could be dangerous as it could cause fibrillation by `crossing the heart`, is this true? ... ... JAB ... ... I wouldn’t do it. Beck has already experimented and found the best ways to use the device. Why reinvent the wheel? ... ... Also is this a much more effective way of delivering the current into the blood as the electricity cannot take the shortest route across the skin, like if you had two electrodes close together on one w ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers20 by tilltherewasyou   3 mon  377
             
            Hi, many thanks to all of you who have very kindly responded to my questions, after much research I have decided to go along with Jaguars advice and place the electrodes wrist to wrist. I have so far had remarkable results using this method and now truly believe and accept that it is impossible for any electricity to cross over and affect the heart due to the inescapable fact that electricity always follows the path of least resistance. ... This method of wrist to wrist absolutely has to be the most effective way of applying current into the bloodstream as Beck himself admitted that most of t ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers /35 21 by parazapper   3 mon  397
               
              - I was having terrible results using the the 2 electrodes on 1 wrist method ... ... I would have to agree with this on either type of zapper, either Clark or Beck. The further apart that the electrodes are, the better the results. Someone should try using both wrists and both ankles with the BBBE, in a manner similar to the use of footpads with the Clark zapper. ... ...   [End]
              • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers22 by kscmac   3 mon  410
                 
                The only way to know for sure is to put the insulated probes/electrodes into the vessels/veins about 6 inches apart and measure the current and voltage directly! This will give a definite result in the current and voltage present. If both give readings, look for the 50 to 150 nanoAmps current flow. You don’t want too much current and not to little. This will give the answer if the wrists or crossbody works and what level of current is present.   [End]
                • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers23 by jaguar57   3 mon  364
                   
                  Since you think that is such a great idea then why don’t you do that and let us know how it goes! ;-) ... ... PS- I WON’T BE HOLDING MY BREATH   [End]
                  • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers24 by kscmac   3 mon  337
                     
                    That was the origional idea along with implanting small batteries! If I could find a doctor who would, I would put the beck device on and let the doc take the readings and then put the other zappers on and see what the readings would be. I would do in a heart beat just to know which one gives the results so you would know! I did one of the experiments out at the space center on muscle tissue where they used a needle actually a tissue core sampler into the upper thigh to take a sample so this would be a breeze. Jusy get each differe nt zapper and a doctor anf the insulated electrical probes.   [End]
                    • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers25 by Johny Apple Bomb   3 mon  347
                       
                      Well. Beck used a Dark field microscope to check the blood before and after the Beck Protocol. The blood was sterile afterwards. And he was using it on the wrist. So that pretty much proves his methods worked.   [End]
                      • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers26 by kscmac   3 mon  331
                         
                        People don’t like to read the whole story!!   [End]
                      • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers27 by parazapper   3 mon  358
                         
                        - So that pretty much proves his methods worked. ... ... Yes, but it did not prove or disprove that other methods might have worked better. ... ... Sometimes, when we feel like we have found the answer, we do not venture to look further to see if there might be an even better answer. One thing that dark field microscopy does not show is what microbes may be clinging to the walls of the arteries, veins, and capillaries or what may be lurking in the lymph nodes. ... ... Also, wrist straps were, for a while, popular for use with Clark zappers although they are among the worst possible electrodes. This is o ...   [retrieve this message]
                        • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers28 by kscmac   3 mon  360
                           
                          Not if the current does not meet the range required! And if anything sticks to the blood vessel wall further treatments get those. As Beck said in making sure you do it long enough to get the bugs. Plus the protocol to follow to help clean out!   [End]
                          • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers29 by parazapper   3 mon  349
                             
                            The reason for using the augmentation pads is to increase the current as well as providing better over-all coverage. ... ... Yes, I have shown that under the microscope, you can take them to the point of starting to explode, turn off the power, and they will recover and swim off as if nothing had happened. ... ... While Dr. Clark said that 7-20-7-20-7 would work, I found that 10-20-10-20-10 worked better and that 10-20-10-20-10-20-10 was even better. ... ...   [End]
                            • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers30 by kscmac   3 mon  374
                               
                              Under dark field microscope Beck showed that after cuurent application and then power turned off, the bugs could no longer attach to cells or reproduce. Then they would die.   [End]
                              • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers31 by parazapper   3 mon  361
                                 
                                Hmmm, funny thing is that I showed that they could recover after a period. Perhaps Beck did not observe for a long enough period of time? Perhaps he had completely killed them already rather than stopping to see what would happen if they were not completely killed? ... ... Perhaps, it may have been because I tried with water borne organisms which may have been stronger and more resistant? ... ... I can not provide the reason but I can definitely state that a organism that is not completely killed can and sometime does recover after incomplete zapping. This is one reason that some people may get recu ...   [retrieve this message]
                                • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers32 by kscmac   3 mon  372
                                   
                                  Thats why you do it every day for a long time. Plus use the magnetic pulser to get the stuff moving out od the lympth system. And drink CS water and ozone water to flush out the system.   [End]
                      • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers33 by david1o1   5 days  24
                         
                        It only proves that some harmful organisms living/traveling in the blood can be damaged/killed this way, it does not mean that others harmful organims living in others parts of the body can be damaged/killed this way. ... ... I have used the Sota silver pulser during one month almost 16hours per day and it has not even disturbed the adult parasites (helminths). But maybe it kills the eggs/larvaes in the blood.   [End]
            • Re: Becks opinion of Clark Zappers34 by david1o1   5 days  21
               
              [quote] ... I also now firmly believe that it is impossible to cause any heart problems using the 2 wrist method. ... [/quote] ... If the intensity is low enough, you probably won’t have heart problems, but if the intensity is too high, you will have heart problems, i have had that. Too much intensity from one hand/wrist to the other hand/wrist can dangerously alter the heart beat. Fortunately it goes back to normal after some hours, but if the heart beat stops or beats not strong enough or beats not fast enough, or beats irregularly, you will see why i explain don’t do that ! It is as if you fall ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Progesterone Cream & Uclers & Candida Feeder by Aliciajb   4 mon  461  HRT / Candida Su / Dr. Beck / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    I have fibromyalgia, candida and hormone imbalances. When I use progesterone cream (which really helps with my pain) I get really dry eyes and bleeding vaginal ulcers (confirmed by a Dr). I am positive it is the progesterone doing it. If I lower my dose of progesterone I am in more pain than if I don’t. Anyone have this problem? Any suggestions? ... ... Also is progesterone cream a candida feeder or killer? ... ... Thanks so much!!! ... ... Alicia   [End]
    • Re: Progesterone Cream & Uclers & Candida Feeder by kcbmmxi   4 mon  408
       
      According to ray peat, any form of estrogen and many similar hormonal-type substances will slow down thyroid, thalmus and liver functions, all of which are nedessary to combat candida and similar maladies.   [End]
  • can I take lugol's iodine while I'm on the protocol by #68716   4 mon  348  Dr. Beck / Iodine Sup
     
    Can I take lugol’s iodine while I’m on the protocol?   [End]
  • I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by JrDavis   4 mon  1,097  Liver Flush Support / Hepatitis / Hulda Clar / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Okay so I have a doctors appointment next Thursday the 10th. ... Going to get blood work down to check for Thyroid problems as I’m struggling to gain weight at the moment. ... ... But I am starting to think everything is getting clogged/backed up. ... ... For awhile I was getting pain under my right rib cage. I thought it was my liver since I have Hep C but now realizing it might of been gallbladder pain. ... ... ... I have dark bags under my eyes regardless of how much I sleep and feel out of it. ... ... I started pulsing with my silver pulser and had some success with removing something (Candida?) from my bowels ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by Steve888   4 mon  921
       
      2 squeezed lemons mixed with an equal amount of olive oil will be much gentler than the epsom salts if you are concerned about it. Take it on an empty stomach, lie on your right side with a heating pad. Pulling your knees up like the fetal position will open up the ducts to let any stones through. Take it before you go to bed and you should get relief from the gallbladder pain. I have done many epsom salt flushes and it does get rid of the pain within an hour. It is rather rough on the digestive tract though and you will need to be near a toilet for a day or two. Either one will be helpful ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by crane23   4 mon  808
       
      You really don’t need to purchase that expensive kit. Three of the items are for the parasite cleanse (cloves, wormwood, blk walnut) and you can buy those mixed together and get all 3 for about $20. Epsom salts is a very common laxative available in a big bag in any grocery store for about $2 and people have been taking it for this purpose for decades, so while it tastes nasty it won’t hurt you. I’ve done many successful flushes and never taken ornithine, so apparently that’s not necessary for good results. ... ... My first flush (7 day apple juice, epsom salts, olive oil and grapefruit) made m ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by crane23   4 mon  841
         
        I should add that I didn’t answer your other questions as I don’t know the answers. In general you don’t want to take anything else at all, including supplements, while you’re doing the flush.   [End]
        • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by JrDavis   4 mon  773
           
          Thanks Crane. ... ... Would you be able to direct me to where I can find the ingredients cheaper? ... ... If not I’ll grab that kit and follow Clarks flush to a T. ... ... The only thing I might change up a little is the epsom salt or try something else to relax the gallbladder. ... ... Maybe start with 2 TBSP. ... ... I know for sure that I’m experiencing SPRUE my body isn’t absorbing nutrients the way it’s supposed to and I wanted to remove metals from the body. ... ... This is why I wanted to incorporate the Chlorella. Vits/Mins etc. ... ... ... I also was reading that drinking RO water can actually rob your body of nutrie ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by FocusOnHealth   4 mon  800
       
      realizing it might of been gallbladder pain. ... ... I suggest you start drinking apple juice, and a few days from now, you do a liver flush. ... ... And DON’T tell your doctor about gall bladder pain. ... I myself wouldn’t say anything about it. ... Because then, using fear, he will likely RUSH you to surgery, to surgically remove your gall bladder. ... ... And then, you’re going to be handicapped for the rest of ... your life. You won’t be able to process any lipids (fat). ... ... I hope this helps. ... ... FocusOnHealth   [End]
    • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by FocusOnHealth   4 mon  753
       
      I think it’s time now =[. ... ... Don’t think too much about it... ... Just do it! ... ... It is simple and easy! ... And you can do it, too! ... ... I hope this helps. ... ... FocusOnHealth ...   [End]
      • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by JrDavis   4 mon  745
         
        There’s Alcohol in the walnut tincture.. ... ... I have never had alcohol not even a sip of alcohol due to my Hep C. ... ... Alcohol is really bad for the liver, Especially with Hep C ... ... It’s something we stay away from. ... ... ... Is there an alternative to the Walnut I can do due to the Alcohol in the tincture? ... ... Idk why they don’t just use clarified butter. It’s far superior to Alcohol anyways and you lose potency using alcohol.   [End]
        • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by JrDavis   4 mon  734
           
          Will this be good to replace the alcohol? ... ... http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Black-Walnut-Hulls-Alcohol-Free-1-fl-oz-30-ml/5444 ... ... ... Is it the same? Just without alcohol?   [End]
          • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by JrDavis   4 mon  729
             
            ... This kroeger wormwood has all the stuff in it for the Clark flush. ... ... http://www.iherb.com/Kroeger-Herb-Co-Wormwood-Combination-100-Veggie-Caps/5830 ... ... Should I just buy the combination or should I get everything separately for dosage?   [End]
            • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by FocusOnHealth   4 mon  723
               
              I get everything separately for dosage? ... ... This ”wormwood” product appears to be a red herring/distraction with the potential of making you postpone your liver flush you badly need. ... ... Yes, I agree. There are many wormwood products on the market. Some are tinctures, some are not. And takes time to make the right choice to get the right product, and to pay the right price. ... ... My first choice would be no wormwood at all. Regardless who wrote the http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp page, I would simply ignore the part where it says ”wormwood”. ... ... A) I would ignore it partly be ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by JrDavis   4 mon  759
                 
                Sorry my bad. I want to do the parasite cleanse first. ... ... That’s why I posted the Kroeger WormWood combination. ... ... For the parasite cleanse it asks for Wormwood, Cloves, And Black Walnut. ... ... Clark says ... ... Black Walnut Hulls (from the black walnut tree) ... Wormwood (from the Artemisia shrub) ... Common Cloves (from the clove tree) ... ... ... For the Parasite cleanse. ... ... So instead of individually buying them. Does the Kroeger give the correct amounts and stuff I need to parasite cleanse? ... ... http://www.iherb.com/Kroeger-Herb-Co-Wormwood-Combination-100-Veggie-Caps/5830 ... ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by FocusOnHealth   4 mon  725
                   
                  JrDavis ... ... It sounds like you want to postpone the flush, and do it ONLY until after the full parasite flush, which can take several months. ... ... However, unless you buy every herb and every tincture from the site of a specialist --- like the late Hulda Clark and/or any of her family members or associates -- you can’t expect the sellers/vendors to give you any guidance or customization as to what you need and why and in what quantities. ... ... I’m not trying to suggest you give your business to Hulda Clark and Company. I don’t benefit from this plug in any way or shape. ... ... If you wish I could c ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by JrDavis   4 mon  736
                     
                    Yeah I want to follow the protocol to a T. I don’t want to have problems from flushing due to parasites being in the bowels or Liver.. ... ... I will be doing the flush. I know I need it. ... ... I ended up buying ... ... Wormwood 200-300 mg 90 Capsules Parasites Cleanse (Artemisa Absinthium), Organic from RBC ... Cloves 100 Veggie Caps, Kroeger Herb Co from RBC ... ... And Nature’s Answer, Black Walnut Hulls, Alcohol-Free, 1 fl oz (30 ml)from IHERB ... ... Once I get them in the mail I’m going to start doing the parasite cleanse. ... ... The protocol seems pretty straight forward up for 14 days. ... ... Then it looks like it ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by FocusOnHealth   4 mon  739
                       
                      The same numbers can be found in ”The cure for All Diseases. Quote Parasite Program Handy Chart Strike out the doses as you take them. | Black Walnut Hull | Wormwood Capsule | Clove Capsule Dose | Tincture Extra | Dose (200-300 mg) | (Size 0 or 00) | Strength Dose | | ---+---------------------+-----------------------+------------------------- Day|1 time per day, |capsules 1 time per day|capsules 3 times per day, |like before a meal |on empty stomach |like at mealtime ---+---------------------+-----------------------+------------------------- 1 | 1 | 1 | 1, 1, 1 2 | 2 | 1 | 2, 2, 2 3 | 3 | ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by FocusOnHealth   4 mon  728
             
            JrDavis, ... ... We want to be perfectionists, but we don’t have to be. ... ... Step 1. IDEALLY we do the parasite cleanse first, and it can take anywhere from one to several months. ... ... Step 2. THEN ideally we drink apple juice for up to two weeks, which is another 2 weeks. ... ... Step 3; THEN ideally we do not eat any fats for a few days, followed by a fast of up to 10 hours. And this means another 2-4 days. ... ... Step 4: AND THEN and only then would we do the liver ... flush. ... ... However, if everyone did the first 3 steps I’ve just described, very few of us would have the resolution and will power to follow ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: I'm ready to start flushing... Well not yet. Need serious advice. by JrDavis   4 mon  582
               
              So I got my parasite cleanse stuff today.. ... ... I found out Wormwood is a neurotoxin and not good to use at all. ... ... ... So now I have cloves and Black Walnut hulls. Which I haven’t fully researched yet. ... ... ... However I’m starting to take your advice and think I should flush my liver asap. ... ... I noticed I have Arcus Senilis - Cholesterol build up around the edges of my brown eyes (In the inside around the whites, It’s a blue ring) ... ... So I assume my liver isn’t digesting cholesterol correctly. ... ... Also, I noticed I have absolutely no body fat and my stools are floating (Sign that fat is not being d ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Can viruses be killed? by jaguar57   4 mon  830  Dr. Beck / AIDS Suppo / EBV Epstei / 4
     
    A possible client just hung up on me after I made the statement that nothing can kill a virus. He did so without giving me a chance to explain. Nothing can kill them because they are not living organisms. If you think I’m crazy then read on to see what this site has to say: ... http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/ ... ... Are Viruses Living? ... 9 JUNE 2004 ... Let’s first define life. According to the online Merriam-Webster Dictionary, life is “an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction.” ... ... Viruses are not living things. ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Can viruses be killed? by parazapper   4 mon  767
       
      While not officially living, a virus contains the necessary information that is required for it to become a living system if it is able to infect the correct host. Whether independently living or not, a virus is an obligatory parasite, it must find a suitable host cell in order to replicate. ... ... A virus, however, can be destroyed and that is possibly the correct term to use. Electricity can easily be used to destroy a virus. This has been scientifically established time and again using different methods. The use of electricity to destroy a virus is recognized by the FDA. ... ... Even cheap weak ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Can viruses be killed? by jaguar57   4 mon  665
         
        You’re making an assumption about electricity ”destroying” viruses just because a 30kHz zapper stops the cold or flu. Maybe it just stimulates the immune system. Best to just stick to the facts. In the research paper about direct current and HIV it said that the electricity had the effect of preventing the viruses from infecting cells. It didn’t say it destroyed them. Beck said his blood electrifier prevented viruses from attaching to human cells (the first stage of infection). ... Now there is research showing that electricity kills bacteria but that shouldn’t be confused with virus. Anyone ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Can viruses be killed? by parazapper   4 mon  643
           
          - Best to just stick to the facts. In the research paper about direct current and HIV it said that the electricity had the effect of preventing the viruses from infecting cells. ... ... That would only be while the DC was being applied. If the Viri did not attach even after the electricity was turned off, then the virus has been debilitated, or otherwise destroyed. If the virus was only disabled, then removal of the signal would result in restored ability to infect rather than being disabled. This is why it is important that a signal be applied for a sufficient length of time and amplitude to ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Can viruses be killed? by jaguar57   4 mon  528
             
            That would only be while the DC was being applied. If the Viri did not attach even after the electricity was turned off, then the virus has been debilitated, or otherwise destroyed.   [End]
            • Re: Can viruses be killed? by JrDavis   68 days  314
               
              By Scientific definition Virus’ are not living. ... ... So they cannot be killed. ... ... By Scientific nature, They appear to have life like characteristics. ... ... So they can be De-activated. ... ...   [End]
              • Re: Can viruses be killed? by parazapper   68 days  325
                 
                Actually, they can be destroyed. ... ... There are several known ways to destroy a virus. ... ... Deactivation implies the possibility of reactivation, destruction highlights the lack of that possibility. ...   [End]
                • Re: Can viruses be killed? by jaguar57   61 days  293
                   
                  I know they can be destroyed. That is what the immune cells do to them. But they cant be killed because they arent alive. Sounds like splitting hairs but really people biology is a science and so we might as well use the correct words that convey the most accurate thought.   [End]
                  • Re: Can viruses be killed? by JrDavis   60 days  274
                     
                    They have many characteristics of being alive. ... ... I would like to say that if you argued with a patient over whether or not virus’ are alive is kind of immature. ... ... The important thing is that the patient should be helped. Not argued with to the point where they hang up the phone. ... ... Another thing is. ... ... Just because scientifically they are not recognized as being alive. Doesn’t mean they are not. ... ... Science has changed many many many times throughout history. Just because something is assumed to be scientifically proven today. Does not mean the mechanism to change that hypothesis cannot b ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • Re: Can viruses be killed? by david1o1   10 days  88
                       
                      [quote] ... Just because scientifically they are not recognized as being alive. Doesn’t mean they are not. ... ... Science has changed many many many times throughout history. Just because something is assumed to be scientifically proven today. Does not mean the mechanism to change that hypothesis cannot be found tomorrow. ... ... They very well could be considered to be alive once a mechanism is found to prove this.. ... ... Maybe our knowledge is not advanced enough yet to realize this... ... [/quote] ... I agree. The scientists interpretation of things/events/results is their interpretation depending on their ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • Re: Can viruses be killed? by kscmac   60 days  268
                     
                    Are you sure you are not confusing being ”alive” and being ”conscious”?   [End]
                  • Re: Can viruses be killed? by parazapper   60 days  281
                     
                    While a virus is not a fully functional living organism, it is not dead because it has the ability to cause its own reproduction in the proper medium. This is what makes it an obligatory parasite. It must invade a host in order to carry out its life cycle. ... ... Yes, there are many biologist who agree with your line of thinking. There are others who do not. Other biologist consider a virus to be a dormant code carrying cyst. ... ... If the virus was truly dead, then it would not be able to carry out its mission. ... ...   [End]
                  • Re: Can viruses be killed? by parazapper   59 days  293
                     
                    Isn’t it odd that the scientific community refers to vaccines as having ”live virus” and ”killed virus”? Or is that only the news media? ... ... ... ...   [End]
  • Did I use my Silver Pulser wrong =\. by JrDavis   5 mon  645  Dr. Beck / Neurology / Dreams / 4 / 5
     
    I have been having these weird issues after falling asleep. ... ... I will wake up and it almost feels like the nerve on my right side of my head lights up and pulses instantly and then I fall back asleep. ... ... I can’t say for sure if it hurts or not because I come right out of my sleep cycle and feel it, and then I fall right back asleep. ... ... I noticed it happening after I used my Sota Silver Pulser. ... ... However the first time I noticed it I put my pulser on my left arm. But this time I didn’t add salt to the water I was using. I used plain water. ... ... The pulser started to hurt and so I changed ar ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Did I use my Silver Pulser wrong =\. by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  647
       
      Did not adding salt to the solution on the electrodes really cause this? ... ... JAB ... ... No. Tap water usually has enough minerals to be sufficient. You might be using too much water though. Causing the electricity to spread out across the skin. I have less irritation using silver electrodes. Maybe you’re turning up the power a little too high. Switch arms every day for healing. With time it won’t bother you as much. ... ... Is my body trying to heal that nerve or something while I go into REM? ... ... JAB ... ... We can only guess. ... ... ... ... I heard that some lady had neuro problems from using it improperly ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Did I use my Silver Pulser wrong =\. by jaguar57   4 mon  465
         
        It may be a nerve reaction to the die-off of bacteria and fungus, or to excess blood cell absorption of chemicals that you shouldn’t of ingested before doing the blood electrification.   [End]
  • Bob Beck Protocol info/experience by #161389   5 mon  842  Dr. Beck / Cancer Sup / Candida Su / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    My wife just started the Beck protocol using SOTA electronics on her breast cancer. We’re looking for input from anyone with any experience they can share, especially on results and time frames and how it feels going through the protocol day-by-day. Also, is there another site which deals with these questions? ... ... Thanks...   [End]
    • Re: Bob Beck Protocol info/experience by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  972
       
      Should be taking 50 mG of Lugols Iodine ( in water) per day if you have breast cancer or cysts. Breast Cancer is at least partially caused by lack of Iodine. ... ... Might look at this site. ... ... http://www.cancertutor.com/Other/Breast_Cancer.html ... ... I have used the Beck Protocol to help get an infection under control and know others who have benefited greatly from it. If you have any specific questions we will answer them. ... ... You might try using the search feature to find others with similar problems. ... ...   [End]
  • day 11 by #68716   5 mon  499
     
    Hi!! ... I’ve been following the protocol for 11 days now. My eyes are red, I have acne and I feel pain in my liver, spleen and stomach. My eczema was already dissapearing with cs alone (I’ve had all those problems before the protocol). The only new thing is when I have a bowel movement I see white stuff mix with it.??? I’m doing 2 hours a day of silver pulsing but I think I should do more.??? Wasn’t I suppose to get really sick like having the flu for 2 months?? It makes me wonder if I’m doing it right. ... ... Here’s what I do when I wake up on a empty stomach ... - 1 glass of ozonated water ... - 40 ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: day 11 by #68716   5 mon  489
       
      Lol yesterday, I used the silver pulser for maybe 4 hours. Later at night I felt like I had a fever and my neck was hurting. So finally it does seem to do something to my body. Now I have a headache.   [End]
    • Re: day 11 by fety   5 mon  458
       
      FYI eating raw egg whites can contribute to a Biotin deficiency. Google it.   [End]
      • Re: day 11 by #68716   5 mon  450
         
        Yes thanks! I only eat the yolk and it taste really good!   [End]
    • Re: day 11 by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  478
       
      You are doing too much too quickly. Should ramp up the blood pulsing, starting at something like 10 minutes and then increase every day until you reach 2 hours. Same with silver and magnetic pulser. ... ... When you reach the 2 hours and one glass of silver per day without die off symptoms continue for a month. Then ramp down. ... ... The ozonated water will help with detox. So drink a glass before and after pulsing.   [End]
      • Re: day 11 by #68716   5 mon  456
         
        Sorry I meant disconfort not pain. I don’t feel worse than before I started. Yes I should drink more ozonated water, I see the difference in my eyes. Other than that I really don’t feel I’m doing too much. The times I had a fever or headache it only lasted for a couple minutes. I have two months free so I want to do the more I can. Is there another reason I should do less then the die off symptoms? ’Cause it’s nothing to me.   [End]
        • Re: day 11 by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  445
           
          If you can handle the detox then their is no reason to ramp up. Go at your own speed. ... ... If your system is loaded with pathogens, you should ramp up so you won’t overwhelm your kidney’s, liver etc.   [End]
  • Image Embedded Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic by JrDavis   5 mon  1,452  Parasites Support / Candida Su / Hepatitis / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    So I have had some discomfort in my left temple. Temporal Artery protruding, hair kinda itchy near the vain. Shooting ear pain. ... ... Thought it was a cold. So I made some CS.. ... ... ... First night I got agitated and went to sleep. Second night trying it I started to Herx. Like a 6/10 herx. ... ... So I stopped using it. ... ... Today I had 3 small bowel movements. One had some mucous in it like Candida. The second one the mucous was stringing to the stools. ... ... And the third one, My bottom half started talking and I thought I was going to have diarrhea. So I darted to the bathroom lol. ... ... To find that ther ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic by Esstee   5 mon  1,095
       
      I’m not specialist BUT... from what I understand the digestive tract is lined with a mucus membrane. However, there several numerous reasons why this membrane can come off. Some due to treatments and others due to illness. And though I won’t claim to know them all, I do know that treatments such as MMS or CDS can do this. Though I’ve never heard of colloidal silver doing it myself. ... ... On the illness side, I’ve read that certain conditions or illnesses such as; inflammatory bowel disease, Bacterial Infections, IBS and Crohn’s could cause this to happen. ... ... Whatever the case, I’d add that ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic by JrDavis   5 mon  1,023
         
        Already flushed it =[. ... ... I really don’t know what it was. After that I had another bowel movement with mucous again. Wasn’t anything like this and I did have stools this time. Small amount though. ... ... So you would rule out parasite or pathogen? ... ... I didn’t strain when this occurred it was more of it forcing itself out. ... ...   [End]
        • Re: Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic by Esstee   5 mon  985
           
          I have no idea whatsoever. ... Though I’d definitely say that you have good cause for concern at this point. That being said, if you do pass more, then perhaps you’d be better off bringing it in for analysis. ...   [End]
    • Re: Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic by stilljillofark   5 mon  1,018
       
      That is classic candida albicans,....come on folks,...we don’t need to be so scared that we say NOTHING,...in hopes people will go see the Almighty Doctor! ... ... The blood tinge is common when candida dislodges. If you get fresh blood,...then we’ll talk. ... ... You are doing GREAT! I think the CS did this,....and I would keep going! A 6/10 is manageable, Yes? ... ... Jill   [End]
      • Re: Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic by Esstee   5 mon  981
         
        TBH. I’ve never seen anything like this during the course of research on Candida. ie. if memory serves, I recall seeing candida having different characteristics, texture etc. than that of mucus. ... ... That being said, do you have any references such as; experience or images that we could compare with to help determined what similarities this might have with classic candida? ... ... PS. It also appears as though the OP hadn’t used colloidal silver prior to taking the image.   [End]
    • Re: Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic by glaxony   5 mon  1,009
       
      It’s a big ol jellly fish. ... Don’t worry about him. ... Hep C nearly killed me in 2000. ... Still fighting to stay alive but feel better than I felt when I was in HS, most of the time. Was a sickly child. Mostly likely due to a combination of hooks, pins and ascaris. Allergies, itchy butt, asthma, itchy skin, tired all the time, etc. ... ... For Hep C people- ... ... Liver flushing is good. ... Bloodroot is good. ... Herbal Detox by Herb PHarm is good. ... Colloidal silver is good. ... SSKI and Iodine are good. ... Methylene Blue is good. ... Enzymes like Neprinol and the like are good. ... Oregano Oil is good. ... Wo ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic by JrDavis   5 mon  934
       
      I haven’t been able to check this for about a day. ... ... ... It is Candida! I have had numerous BM since the post and ALL of them have had Candida. ... ... I personally know it’s Candida because the strings and mucous around my BM’s are white and very stringy! ... ... I had to boost my CS intake because I think I have Candida really bad in my mouth. ... ... My tongue has the classic white, However the white is frosty and hard to scrape off. So I fear it’s more poor digestion due to organs or something. Someone on here was discussing it. ... ... But I’m 25. However it could be my crappy diet throughout the years ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Need help Identifying. Fluke? Parasite? Warning-Pic   R by dpk   5 mon  1,063
         
        For candida I learned alot about it from a chiropractor named dr. combs.. ... ... http://drmccombs.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/10-candida-myths/ ... ... You can make your own protocol.. iherb sells the Thorne product of undecenoic acid labeled as formula sf722.. ... ... also, candidase enzymes completely breaks down the yeast altogether reducing the populations. You still have to deal with the contents being dumped into your intestines nd the herx reaction from it. But, you can build an anti candida protocol rather easily. Biotin from what i understand is what healthy bacteria produce to fight against bad ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by JrDavis   5 mon  1,351  Dr. Beck / Hepatitis / Colloidal / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Just got my Sota silver pulser today. Would like to know if I do 500ml distilled (Walmart water) for 2 hours. What should be my dosage for ionic silver? ... ... Should it be 8 ounces or lower? ... ... The rest should just be stored? ... ... Combating sinus infection and Hep c. ... ... Also is it bad to use Opiates/Cannabis after pulsing and colloidal silver? ... ... Thank you. ...   [End]
    • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  1,167
       
      Get a nasal sprayer and ultrasonic nebulizer. That’s what I did for my wife! Since she has had these -she uses the nasal sprayer as she feels - filled with CS(colloidal silver), She uses the nebulizer with CS when she thinks/feels/see’s that she has an infection starting. If my wife gets an upper resp infection she ends up in the ER or in ICU. So the CS has kept her out of the hosiptal for over two years!! I also use it if I feel something cold/flu comming on. You can get an ultrasonic nebulizer from flea bay that runs on 12VDC. The nasal sprayer can be bought on several sites.   [End]
    • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  1,095
       
      If cold/flu something in the sinus/lungs using CS(colloidal silver) to get to the lungs and sinus directly gets more silver where it needs to be to knock out cold/flu. If taken by mouth it has to go through the whole body and that takes time and more CS! Putting the CS right at the site of infection/virus/bacteria puts a higher level of CS right where it is needed. Drinking it will take more and longer to effect.   [End]
      • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by JrDavis   5 mon  1,077
         
        Do you know how much I should use at first if I have no nebulizxer yet? I have been on antibiotics(clyndomicin) for a week now will it hurt changing over? ... ... I just dont want to run into argyria. ... ... would 8 ounces starting off be a concern? Or should it be lower with ionic silver   [End]
        • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  1,117
           
          Use a spray bottle to inhale the mist as you breath in. Empty and wash out an old nasal spray bottle(sterlize and clean it) and put CS(colloidal silver) into it. Go to cgcsforum and this site will help you to make CS silver out of IS(ionic silver) IS silver is more likely to give the blues to you than CS. Read info on the site, will help you a lot!! Spraying the CS into lungs and sinus put more silver at where you need it with out wasting it elsewhere in the body. You wont get the same mg’s at your lungs and sinuses by drinking the CS/IS, you would have to take in large amounts. Much easie ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by Esstee   5 mon  1,118
             
            I understand why you’re saying that ionic silver is more likely to cause Argyria than metallic silver. But... there is absolutely no proof of this beyond belief. In fact, there are already report of people who have developed Argyria using mixed ionic/metallic silver solutions and so I’d say such beliefs are most likely unsubstantiated. Not to mention where recent research has shown that people can and will develop Argyria from any form of silver and that the conditions is likely based on product quantities rather than type. Which was likely seen long ago as cases of the condition were repo ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  1,019
               
              The site is where I pass along what has worked and how CS/IS was made. Just info that has worked for people and methods for making CS/IS. Everyone can give their own view unlike most sites. I know what works since my wife died 3 times and brought back and since CS/IS she has not even been to the ER in over 2 years!   [End]
              • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by Esstee   5 mon  1,070
                 
                Hi kscmac, ... ... I’m really not sure what you’re trying to say, though after a little investigating, it seems as though the cgsforums are fine with opinions so long as they coincide with the owners own beliefs. For example, there have been numerous instances where people have been treated poorly after disagreeing with the administrators POV. This in spite of the fact that he is often wrong. Which is likely why the site became so tightly wrapped under lock and key since it began. ... ... As for your testimony, I’d simply state that there is ample research to support the advantages and disadvantages ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  1,036
                   
                  To bad there is no site where people can just put their experiences with silver in healing. And to add what they did exactly and what the outcome was/is. Everybody is not going to have the same result. But to have a site with a large block of info could be very helpful. There is so many people trying to discredit or to take credit. And then those out just to make money into the mix!   [End]
                • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  1,004
                   
                  Right now I am cutting up Silver Cloth to make powered bandaids. A strip of silver cloth wetted down with IS/CS and applied over wound area, then a small 0.09VDC to 1.1VDC @ 300 nanoAmps(depending on length) Positive cliped to silver cloth, on opposite side(like arm, leg, chest, etc.) negative(cathode)on a copper or silver sheet film is where the negative is applied. Silver ions flow from the cloth into the wound area helping to heal and stop infection, Dr. Becker was just on the edge of a great idea when they ashut him down. I have used this ”powered silver bandaid” on several friends who ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by #160878   5 mon  1,070
                   
                  Estee, ... ... I am the owner of cgcsforum.com and the silver-tron store. First, I do indeed have an agenda. It is to provide the best SCIENTIFIC data about silver and gold colloids. Yes, I do indeed have my opinions, and they are based on solid science and logic. Just because someone else does not know the real science does not mean that I do not. It is plentiful if you know where and how to look. Most of the information on the net is wrong and much of it nothing but scams. For instance, the silver lungs guy makes the claim that his silver water has a pH of 10. Any chemist worth his sal ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  1,014
                     
                    Hear! Hear!! Thats the reply for the people who do complain and everthing else except contribute!!!!!!!!!   [End]
                  • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by Esstee   5 mon  1,009
                     
                    You are right about one thing. I have formed my opinion of you. ... ... You may now go back to the hole from which you came from. :) ...   [End]
                    • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  970
                       
                      When confronted with facts and scientific knowledge they respond by stating their lack of understanding that comes with intelligent discourse. A group that shares info and ideas leads to new understanding and formation of hypothesis that explain actions not understood. By the way our ”hole” is into the light as to yours into the darkness that mirrors your small mind.   [End]
                      • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by Esstee   5 mon  998
                         
                        There’s no need for childish remarks kscmac. Besides, I’m confident your light barer is mature enough to handle personal criticism all his own, don’t you? :)   [End]
                  • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by Esstee   5 mon  1,051
                     
                    I’d like to take this opportunity to set the record straight on a matter that has been brought-up in our forums recently. ... ... Following allegations made by a colloidal silver machine seller named Kephra, I took the liberty of contacting James Davis from Silverlungs to follow-up on the charge that he was somehow unqualified to publish reports and information on the use and production of colloidal silver as shown bellow: ... ... -- Posted by: Kephra -- ... For instance, the silver lungs guy makes the claim that his silver water has a pH of 10. Any chemist worth his salt knows that the pH of solutions ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by kscmac   5 mon  1,032
           
          A normal dose for nebulizing is 5ml to 10ml, 0.16907oz to 0.33814022oz. So a normal dose would be about 1/3 of a oz. A spray bottle or a nasal spray bottle would be the best untill you can get the other items. Nasal spray bottles have what each squeeze puts out in ml/oz, so you would know how many to do.   [End]
        • Re: Ionic Colloidal Silver dosage. by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  1,011
           
          Do you know how much I should use at first if I have no nebulizxer yet? I have been on antibiotics(clyndomicin) for a week now will it hurt changing over? I just dont want to run into argyria. would 8 ounces starting off be a concern? Or should it be lower with ionic silver ... ... JAB ... ... I would ramp it up over a couple weeks until you get to a dose that is effective. I have taken ionic EIS silver in doses of 8 ounces per day for months without any side effects. ... ... If you have enough vitamin C, Selenium and other detox nutrients, argyria shouldn’t be a problem. Read the 1st tale in the link b ...   [retrieve this message]
  • fasting and beck's protocol by #68716   5 mon  506  Dr. Beck / Fasting: G
     
    Hi!! ... it’s my second day on the protocol. Today, I started a 3 day apple fast and will do an enema for maybe 2 or 3 days also. I will do a liver flush on the third night. I’ve done water fasting in the past and was wondering if it was ok if I water fast while on a protocol?   [End]
    • Re: fasting and beck's protocol by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  479
       
      You’re suppose to eat normal food during the protocol. Without heavy spices or garlic. Your body has to rebuild blood cells etc. ... ... No fasts. ... ... ... only supplement Beck recommended was a mineral supplement if anything. Other supplements can be toxic.   [End]
      • Re: fasting and beck's protocol by #68716   5 mon  411
         
        Thanks!!!! but OH NOOOOO!! lol I want to continue to eat apples and do my flush tomorrow but I don’t want to stop the protocol cuz today, out of nowhere, I woke up with a cold sore ... Is it really bad if I continue the apples? I only have one day left.   [End]
      • Re: fasting and beck's protocol ok ok by #68716   5 mon  427
         
        I’ve decided to do one last enema tonight,eat apple as the non fat breakfast tomorrow, then stop eating and do the liver flush at night(epsom salt-olive oil-lemon). I will only drink colloidal silver and ozonated water and stop the rest of the protocol for now. But I’m wondering if it’s bad to do a liver flush cuz my stomach will be almost empty because of the enema I will only have 6 apples in the morning. Any advice please ? Maybe I should use less epsom salt?(I know im in the wrong forum lol)   [End]
  • guidance needed using the protocol by #68716   5 mon  413
     
    Hi! ... I started doing Beck’s protocol today, but I’m not sure how to use it. ... ... - I started by drinking one glass of ozonated water ... - then I use the magnetic pulser for 20 minutes on different places(around the jaw, liver, elbow knees, armpit and chest and stomach area) ... - after that I used the silver pulser for 1 hour ... - then I drank a glass of colloidal silver ... - and finally another glass of ozonated water ... ... Later tonight I will do another 20 min. of magnetic pulsing, drink a glass of colloidal silver and finish with a glass of ozonated water. ... ... Is there a better way?? and I was thin ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: guidance needed using the protocol by #68716   5 mon  377
       
      Maybe if anyone has a pic of where I should use the magnetic pulser if not just tell me where please. I’m tryng to get the best out of these units. Thanks!!   [End]
      • Re: guidance needed using the protocol by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  388
         
        Maybe if anyone has a pic of where I should use the magnetic pulser if not just tell me where please. I’m tryng to get the best out of these units. Thanks!! ... ... ... JAB ... ... The Lymph is what you mainly use the pulser on. Unless you suspect an area of the body is infected. ... ... http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&gs_rn=0&gs_ri=hp&cp=7&gs_id=57&xhr=t&q=lymph+system&pf=p&tbo=d&biw=1366&bih=625&sclient=psy-ab&oq=lymph+s&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=e4732e036cc9a29f&bpcl=39650382   [End]
    • Re: guidance needed using the protocol by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  394
       
      Hi! ... I started doing Beck’s protocol today, but I’m not sure how to use it. ... ... - I started by drinking one glass of ozonated water ... - then I use the magnetic pulser for 20 minutes on different places(around the jaw, liver, elbow knees, armpit and chest and stomach area) ... - after that I used the silver pulser for 1 hour ... - then I drank a glass of colloidal silver ... - and finally another glass of ozonated water ... ... Later tonight I will do another 20 min. of magnetic pulsing, drink a glass of colloidal silver and finish with a glass of ozonated water. ... ... Is there a better way?? and I was thinki ...   [retrieve this message]
  • making colloidal silver by thebigg   5 mon  488  Dr. Beck / Colloidal
     
    Help! I have a Bob Beck machine that I have not used for awhile. It has an apparatus that makes colloidal silver. I cannot find the instructions and want to make the silver. Can someone help me??   [End]
    • Re: making colloidal silver by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  486
       
      What machine do you have? ... ... Beck would just use tap water. We use distilled water instead to lower the chances of Argyria. Unlike tap water, distilled water takes hours instead of minutes to make the silver solution.   [End]
  • What happens to a tumor when it dies? by NeedInnerPeace   6 mon  1,016  Cancer Support / Candida Su / Dr. Beck / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    I’m getting mixed information about killing cancer cells vs reverting cancer cells back to normal. What is the difference here and what is the end result? It sounds like those are 2 different things, yet I’m also reading cancer cells are reverted back to normal cells after the microbes in those cells are killed which makes them sound like the same thing. I’m also reading some stories about cancer being cured but a dead shrunken tumor is left behind. Do tumors completely turn back into normal cells after the cancer causing microbes in those tumors die?   [End]
    • Re: What happens to a tumor when it dies? by parazapper   6 mon  990
       
      There are many claims about what happens to cancer. It is possible for many of them to be true in given situations. ... ... If a cancer is actually killed, then the tumor must go through the process of necrosis and decay, leaving the body a mess to clean up. This can result in a void, a sunken area, or a mass of scar tissue. ... ... However, if the cancer is reverted to normal cells, there is not going to be much evidence of the tumor left behind. ... ...   [End]
    • Re: What happens to a tumor when it dies? by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  831
       
      Ideally you want to revert the cell back to a normal cell so it will take less time to get back to normal health. I guess that may be possible but I don’t know for sure. ... ... Otherwise your body will have to break it down and rebuild with enzymes etc.   [End]
    • Re: What happens to a tumor when it dies? by Johny Apple Bomb   5 mon  787
       
      Ideally you want to revert the cell back to a normal cell so it will take less time to get back to normal health. I guess that may be possible but I don’t know for sure. ... ... Otherwise your body will have to break it down and rebuild with enzymes etc. The more enzymes and nutrients available in your body, the faster the body will break down bad tissue and rebuild.   [End]
    • Re: What happens to a tumor when it dies? by chrisb1   5 mon  945
       
      Autolysis can absorb tumors via water-only-fasting as clumps of cells that are foreign to the body. New cells are born everyday to replace them, and where the entire body is reported to replace its cells every 7 years or less. ... ... Chrisb1.   [End]
    • dry fasting by Pamela Viktoria   5 mon  857
       
      I’ve read about how dry fasting (no food or water) will make your body use up dying tissue, tumors, even wrinkles. I’m guessing the useless stuff is just broken down and sent to the colon.   [End]
      • Re: dry fasting by Kcirla   78 days  352
         
        Dry fasting or water fasting are in my opinion very dangerous to do for a cancer patient. You need good nutrition in order to fight cancer. I believe cancer is very linked to candida and/or parasites, and a water or dry fast just won’t touch them. Also, any proven therapy will place a great stress on the liver, as toxins from cancer cells or dead microbes are released. Juice-fasting with the proper juices is in my opinion far more beneficial for that matter.   [End]
        • Re: dry fasting by chrisb1   78 days  384
           
          Dry/water fasting is not dangerous to someone with cancer, as the body will use its process known as Autolysis in shrinking and eliminating tumors and other growths very efficiently. ... Fasting would be not recommended though in cases of stage 1V cancers where tumors have metastasized widely. ... ... Chrisb1   [End]
        • good point by Pamela Viktoria   74 days  304
           
          I’m not recommending it for someone really sick; I only have experience on myself. I really agree that nutrition has to be addressed before asking the body to detox/house clean.   [End]
  • Comparing zapper signal strength using different electrodes by parazapper   6 mon  661  Zapper Support / Rife / Dr. Beck / 4
     
    This is important in that it shows the difference in the signals at various points on the body as produced by different electrode combinations. ... ... Zapper Electrodes   [End]
    • Re: Comparing zapper signal strength using different electrodes by AnalogKid   4 mon  435
       
      Just saw this, and (gasp) I have some comments. But first I want to confirm some things. I have to ask this first because there is nothing on the page that ties together positive, negative, output, ground, red, and green to present a comprehensive picture of the test setup. (tks). ... ... 1. Green wire is the signal generator circuit return (ground). ... ... 2. Red wire is the circuit (555?) output. ... ... 3. Scope ground is connected to the green wire at the contact point (paddle, footpad, etc.). This is a direct copper connection between the scope probe return and the signal generator return. ... ... If ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Comparing zapper signal strength using different electrodes by parazapper   4 mon  419
         
        - If these are all correct, then I think your interpretation of the results is in error in two ways, the reasons for overall amplitude changes with location and the significance of the differences in frequency response. ... ... Frames 1through 4 show that the closer to the green electrode that you measure, the lower the overall DC amplitude. This fits Ohm’s Law if you view this as a resistive divider. However, the attenuation of high frequency appears to be even greater which indicates additional capacitive shunting. ... ... I believe that both of these phenomena are fairly well established. The sig ...   [retrieve this message]
  • PLEASE Help, I have a bad toothache!!!!!! by bjornbjorn   6 mon  1,103  Root Canals / Dr. Beck / Amalgam Re / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    I just saw the dentist last week, a very good dentist with lots of experience. She is great at safely taking out amalgam fillings and thats what I had done. I removed 3 amalgam fillings on my lower left side. The cavity’s were deep and she said I would probably need a root canal in the next 6 months or so. I am not getting a root canal that is for sure. I had these teeth done 7 days ago, the first 2 days were tolerable and then just sensitivity which is what I expected. Now the pain is intolerable and hurts, this is my first toothache. Is it the root acting up? What can I do I am de ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: PLEASE Help, I have a bad toothache!!!!!! by wateroflife   6 mon  893
       
      Before trying anything else I would try urine for 15 mins in the mouth twice a day if you can or more. I would also use the Sota magnetic pulser about 50 times around the jaws and mouth including the ear and you can do this while holding the urine. ... ... If there was no change after 24 hrs my guess is you need to do something else. The only thing I can think of is silver water held for 5-10 minutes in the mouth a couple or more times a day. If you did all three you should see a result within 24 hrs of beginning. None of those things will do any harm, that is important. I do not like the prosp ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: PLEASE Help, I have a bad toothache!!!!!! by jaguar57   5 mon  907
         
        sounds like the nerve in the tooth is infected. you can kill that infection with direct current from a battery. go to the Yahoo group microelectricitygermkiller to see instructions on how to make such a device. see my site http://www.dragonfly75.com/eng/DCbacteria.html to read about DC effectiveness against bacteria.   [End]
    • Re: PLEASE Help, I have a bad toothache!!!!!! by SandyG   5 mon  1,023
       
      Make an appointment with your dentist. But in case you are afraid of seeing a dentist, you can try home remedies. http://www.top10homeremedies.com/home-remedies/home-remedies-for-toothache.html   [End]
    • Re: PLEASE Help, I have a bad toothache!!!!!! by hanrypaul   4 mon  668
       
      You need a experienced dental surgeon which provide you proper treatment and tips for pain relief so take help here. ... ... Trinity Endodontics ... ...   [End]
  • Latest data support for zapping by parazapper   6 mon  855  Zapper Support / Dr. Beck / Rife / 4
     
    ... ... Parasite Zapper Hoax, Scam, or Real? ... ...   [End]
    • Re: Latest data support for zapping by jaguar57   4 mon  547
       
      This is a classic example of how Clark Zapper sellers stretch the truth. ... In the quoted zapper study by Thiel (where zapper use was combined with nutritional changes) this is the conclusion he made: ... ”I am not at all certain that zapping actually kills any invading microorganism. This trial suggests that since only 48.3% improved substantially, zapping probably did not kill ”all bacteria, viruses and parasites”   [End]
      • Re: Latest data support for zapping by parazapper   4 mon  513
         
        Exactly! ... ... Did not kill All. The point? He used old antiquated 1996-1998 version zappers. ... ... Even on the referenced page, I include percentages that reflect less than 100 percent effectiveness. The same is very true of Beck devices. I have heard complaints of ”No results from Beck”. ... ... The Thiel study definitely shows a significant improvement by the group that used the zappers combined with nutritional changes over those who made nutritional changes only. ... ... No truth stretching what-so-ever. Links to full documentation are on the referenced page. ... ... ...   [End]
        • Re: Latest data support for zapping by kscmac   4 mon  506
           
          Even with an only 10% rate of disabiling a virus or bacteria will with time give you a clean out, just will take longer. A 50% rate will work pretty fast either way this is better than radioisotopes being injected in your body killing off good tissues! Not to mention the other drugs with their very bad side effects(including death!) A slow recovery without killing your body is preferable. In cancer they dont take count of who is alive after 5 years when they figure their statistics, so when you look at what they are telling you ask how many are alive after 5 years, they will ignore you or ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Latest data support for zapping by parazapper   4 mon  529
             
            You will likely never get a straight answer from an oncologist because maintaining their income requires perpetuating a scam. ... ... When there was a 3 percent survival rate of cancer patients, those who underwent surgical-chemo-radiation therapy had a 4.5 percent survival if they managed to complete the therapy ( a 50 percent approval ). The catch is that the ones who were the least likely to survive could not complete the therapy, so they were excluded from the test group. A basic ”fingers on the scale” approach. Even worse, on many occasions, the ones who could not finish the chemo-radiatio ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Latest data support for zapping by kscmac   4 mon  560
               
              Look at what is in our ”so called fod oops! Food” We don’t eat raw food anymore we consume chemical bundles! If ”they” would chart what’s in our food with the cancer rate(allowing for 5 years of the crap getting in!) there would be a most interesting coincidence! Of course they will never allow this to be put out there. Eating better and moderate excerise does wonders for helping the body to recover. That’s why any protocol will work so much better with raw food/ or at least try to reduce the processed food intake. You are right that no oncologist is going to give you the truth! It would c ...   [retrieve this message]
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