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The left's love affair with tyranny terror by peggyaus 9 mon 309

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP8jNwvvLJo ... ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dg51EiQry0&feature=relmfu ... ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uKmDNyKFjw&feature=relmfu ... ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7q13F_enEo [End]

BMJ admits antipsychotic drugs kill far more people than terrorism by befurther 14 mon 333

(NaturalNews) Based on the facts, U.S. Transportation Security Administration pat-downs and naked body scans belong at drug company factories, doctors’ offices, and drug stores, rather than at American airports. A new report published in the British Medical Journal has found that dangerous antipsychotic drugs are responsible for killing at least 1,800 dementia patients a year, which means that more people are killed by U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved dementia drugs every two years than died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. ... ... For their study, researchers from Harvard ... [retrieve this message]

The real terrorism in the United States of America - is the family unit

by #136970 15 mon 573

... ... The real terrorism in the United States of America - is within the family ... unit. Families are becoming obsolete and for good reason. ... ... http://www.forbes.com/sites/crime/2012/02/26/global-terrorism-and-the-world-conference-of-women-in-washington-d-c/?feed=rss_home ... ... Global Terrorism And The World Conference Of Women In ... Washington, D.C. ... ... 2/26/2012 @ 6:47PM ... It’s already Monday in other places like Hong Hong and Sidney, Australia. ... Wherever you live, you can bet someone is weeping and saying prayers over their ... recently buried loved one, kneeling on cold, hard ground over o ... [retrieve this message]

Sick communist propaganda by #143327 15 mon 560

Nothing more. The number one goal of communism is to destroy the family unit, this article proves it. ... 40,000 people a year are killed in auto accidents. The commies want take our cars away also. So keep pushing for these planks of communism and you will wake up one day and your life will be like a prison. The government will schedule your day for you from cradle to grave because you gave up freedom and liberty because of your chicken shit fears and insecurities. [End]

Re: Sick communist propaganda by #136970 15 mon 501

... ... Communist propaganda? Cite just one erroneous part of the ... article. Then point out which item is communist in origin. ... ... Forbes is communist? Walmart is communist? ... ... By the way - Evangelical Christians have the highest divorce rate of ... any religious group in the United States. These are the very ... voices that are for some reason promoting (but not practicing) "family ... values." Barna is a born again Christian who is in the business of ... statistics. Atheists and agnostics have a 20% divorce rate. ... ... Please point out the "communist" p ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Sick communist propaganda by #143327 15 mon 493

Ignorance is a vital part of implementing the ten planks of communism. And if you don’t understand the fascism of the corporate state you will be victim to it. ... Maybe you should get your head out of the boob tube and the main stream media propaganda and learn something. We have the internet now,its all there in black and white. m*o*o*n liberals piss and moan about corporate abuse yet at the same time promote their propaganda, this is why this country is going to the commies. [End]

Re: Sick communist propaganda by #136970 15 mon 530

... ... I pull an up to the minute article on-line from Forbes Magazine - one of the ... most conservative rags in America and you accuse me of having my head in the ... boob tube? ... ... You still haven’t identified anything in that story that has a communist ... origin or that is not factual. ... ... You say that Liberals are m*o*o*ns? ... ... http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981083067 ... ... Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, ... Conservatism ... ... February 02, 2012 ... ... Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? ... A provocative new study from ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Sick communist propaganda by #143327 15 mon 555

The corporate elite are all about destroying the free market and competition and implementing state controlled market. Isn’t that what Walmart does in every community it enters ? ... To push their propaganda ,you become what the commies call a useful idiot. ... ... http://commieblaster.com/nwo-cfr-bilderberg/index.html [End]

You like your ilk can only resort to name calling by #136970 15 mon 530

... ... "To push their propaganda ,you become what the commies call a useful ... idiot." ... ... When you have no facts nor reality to back you up, you do as all neo ... conservatives now do - you resort to name calling just like you did in your ... previous post. ... ... I hope that you are absolutely loving 2012 as I am because it’s only going to ... get better and better. ... ... The only communists left in the world are in North Korea and Cuba and even ... they will be gone within five years. The communist empire literally ... collapsed in the 20th Century and you are still in fear of them? As Dr. ... D ... [retrieve this message]

Lenin coined the term not I. by #143327 15 mon 549

So it is the left you should have a problem with. The useful idiot or communist sympathizer is some who reads Marx, an anti communist is someone who understand Marx.You obviously don’t understand Marx or what you preach which is very useful to the communist agenda. ... Proof? What is your prove ,an article from some corporate fascist magazine? [End]

Re: Lenin coined the term not I. by #136970 15 mon 499

... ... Where in the original story do you find Karl Marx? You are putting ... things there that do not exist. You obviously love paranoia. ... ... Welcome to the 21st Century and 2012. It’s going to get nothing but ... better and better. ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: Lenin coined the term not I. by #143327 15 mon 516

How naive. Do you think the article should sport a communist seal of approval? If you understand the communist agenda it doesn’t take a genius to recognize it. Although it consistently fools the so called educated who have been stewed in leftist propaganda in our government schools. ... It’s easy to remain a sheep and follow the herd but it takes an independent mind to recognize the fact that these government institutes are driving the herd over the cliff into the totalitarian abyss. ... America became great because of the free market and the family unit and it’s high moral values. You and your ... [retrieve this message]

The first Christians practised communism by #136970 15 mon 517

... ... You’re entire thread is the sickest logic I’ve ever seen posted on Cure Zone. ... ... Communism folded decades ago yet you are still somehow hooked into the ... programming that it is going to take over the USA. Actually - just ... the opposite is happening. ... ... When you really learn about real communism you will know that Karl Marx’s ... "...from each according to his ability to each according to his need" ... comes directly from the book of Acts where all of the early Christians were ... practicing communism in its purest form. ... ... Your pretense of guarding women’s rights is nothing ... [retrieve this message]

Communism now Communitarianism by befurther 15 mon 559

COPS, like every other program coming down via the UN Declaration at Rio, is based in the theory of communitarianism. Promoted as the sensible solution to the conflicts posed by too many individual rights and not enough community rights, Communitarians insist there must be a new effort to “shore up the moral, social and political environment.” They “balance” the rights of individuals against the health and safety of the community at large. Amitai Etzioni has told us numerous times that individual rights can only be protected by taking some away. ... ... The fo ... [retrieve this message]

Kibbutz & currency by befurther 15 mon 479

... A kibbutz ( Hebrew: קיבוץ, קִבּוּץ, lit. "gathering, clustering"; plural kibbutzim) is a collective community in Israel that was traditionally based on agriculture. Today, farming has been partly supplanted by other economic branches, including industrial plants and high-tech enterprises. [1] Kibbutzim began as utopian communities, a combination of socialism and Zionism. In recent decades, some kibbutzim have been privatized and changes have been made in the communal lifestyle. A member of a kib ... [retrieve this message]

Labeling the family as terrorists is sick left wing propaganda by #143327 15 mon 497

What a dupe, first you deny Marxism exist then you praise Marx ,truly a misguided and hate filled person and by your lack of acknowledgment to my question I have to assume you also support the genocide being committed by left wing eugenicist’s on the children of this planet.Liberalism is truly a mental disease were the self righteous, self important, egotist looks for causes to prove how caring and kind they are yet lives in a rabid sort of cognitive dissonance that allows them to accept the brutality of infanticide as a casual event. ... Marxist are all around you comrade, they call themselv ... [retrieve this message]

Progressive=Communist. by #143327 15 mon 436

... ... Progressives Are Communists (If You Didn’t Know) ... A really interesting piece at Gallup, ”Americans Unsure About ’Progressive’ Political Label.” ... ... It turns out that a majority of 54 percent aren’t quite sure what a ”political progressive” really is. And a very small percentage, 12 percent, actually self-identifies as ”progressive” (with 45 percent of those identifying as ”liberal” or ”very liberal”). The numbers make sense to me. Traditionally, ideological discussion of the left/right continuum focuses on liberals and conservatives. But liberalism literally has become a dirty word in A ... [retrieve this message]

Re: The first Christians practised communism by #143327 15 mon 476

By the way ”practiced” is spelled with a ”c” Einstein. ... ... Besides your history is revised and misuses words, the correct term was mercantilism, were the land was owned by the queen and the pilgrims who were still subjects of the queen were collected in groups using redistribution of agricultural products that were grown by the able and fit while the unfit or dependent reaped their share for doing nothing, this system failed as usual and many pilgrims died of starvation until the land was parceled off to the family unit and allowed to keep whatever they produced and sell off the surplus. T ... [retrieve this message]

"...from each according to his ability to each according to his need" by befurther 15 mon 553

It works when people have the same values. That is why ECHO-nomics is the major binding force. There are various conflicts when people do not share the same values. One prime example is that of a National Health Care system. Who decides what health care modality an individual utilizes? If a person decides to take toxic vaccines because that is what they value, should individuals that know better have to be burdened by such decisions, and vice versa? ... ... Will the state enforce its will through terror and imprisonment for those whose values differ? ... ... The Authoritarian nature of the systems ... [retrieve this message]

Why Individualism is more compassionate than Collectivism by befurther 14 mon 466

Activist Post ... ... Throughout most of the world people are taught to look at reality in a very polarized way. When certain issues are presented to us through mainstream circles they are usually oversimplified to the point where all concepts are either black or white, and all people are either good or bad, with no in between. ... ... The reality of the situation is that things are much more complicated than that; there are usually many different ways of looking at things and many different sides to the story. This is especially true in the study of philosophy, because terms are consta ... [retrieve this message]

Inverted Totalitarianism and the Corporate State by befurther 14 mon 2,642

"The privatization of public services and functions manifests the steady evolution of corporate power into a political form, into an integral, even dominant partner with the state. " -- Sheldon S. Wolin ... ... www.batr.org/totalitariancollectivism/022612.html ... ... ... [End]

Duplicated by #136970 15 mon 469

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Real terrorism in the USA by befurther 15 mon 465

Kurt Haskell: Witness to Government False ... ... www.infowars.com/kurt-haskell-witness-to-government-false-flag-part-3/ ... [End]

The Norway Bombing and Israel?

by #143327 22 mon 975 Conspiracy Theories / Terrorism

I haven’t quite figured out exactly how to imbed videos yet but thought this was a worthy narrative on the lone gunman fallacy. ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhaOHy43LWg [End]

NWO = Pax Judaica by #89866 22 mon 1,965

... ... ”The Planet should be all Jewish, hey if this is part of the plan I’m for it. RobertBienenfeld 2 hours ago” ... ... I thought this viewer’s comment on that YouTube video’s comments section was revealing, for those who don’t think this is all part of a Master Plan. Hitler wanted a ”Thousand Year Reich”? Once again Jews are guilty of what they accuse. Jews have their ”Pax Judaica”: ... ... ... ”Our control Commissions will, in the interest of peace and wiping out our interracial tensions, forbid the whites to mate with white. The white woman must cohabit with membe ... [retrieve this message]

Re: NWO = Pax Judaica by #143327 22 mon 1,120

USSR-WarFlag.gif (19869 bytes) ... ... Greetings my children, You have been called here to recapitulate the principle steps of our new program. As you know, we had hoped to have twenty years between wars to consolidate the great gains which we made from World war II, but our ever increasing numbers in certain vital areas is arousing opposition to us, and we must now work with every means at our disposal to precipitate World War III. The Third World War...will surpass in destruction all previous contests. Israel [the jews], of course, will remain neutral, and when both sides are devastated and e ... [retrieve this message]

Terror News: Norweigan shooter

by peggyaus 22 mon 1,223 Conspiracy Theories / Terrorism

http://terrornewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2011/07/oslo-bomber-norwegian-shooter.html [End]

Re: Terror Not-News: Norweigan shooter by turiya 22 mon 1,053

I know you are just using the name of the BLOG, ”Terror News”, in the subject line. But this is far from being categorized as news - it is strictly an Opinion piece. ... ... The writer is showing the degree to which he himself is mentally deranged / ill. ... ... ”Anders Breivik deserves a medal and a post of prominence in Norway’s government.” ... ... I’d say this blogger will not last very long at this rate, if he continues to promote violence as the solution to any such problem the way he has. ... ... By saying what he says, he is promoting to have more censorship engulf the internet. So, in a way, he c ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Terror Not-News: Norweigan shooter by refreshed 22 mon 1,017

You state: ”By saying what he says, he is promoting to have more censorship engulf the internet? ... ... If I was you I would not worry about the internet being censored but worry more about the attitude that says a person does not have have a right to speak their mind in fear of censorship. ... ... [End]

Re: Terror Not-News: Norweigan shooter *EDIT* by turiya 22 mon 1,078

Well, refreshed, you are not me... and I thank god for that. I can suggest that you focus on being more yourself, and drop this habit of judgmental comparison. ... ... Its simply an observance, as to where governments are moving toward more these days... Freedom of speech does not exist... Try yelling ’FIRE!’ in a crowded theater. Try denying the holocaust in Italy, and see where that takes you... Try telling the cop that pulled you over that you think he’s an idiot for doing so... and see how free you are to say that. ... ... It is understood, most of the MSM is typically Zionist owned, most politi ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Terror Not-News: Norweigan shooter by #143327 22 mon 1,014

Methinks refreshed is guilty of her own accusations. [End]

Deciphering Truth by refreshed 22 mon 1,006

I don’t believe peggyaus is inciting anything. She is posting something that seems important to her, just like we all do. No where does it say she is in full agreement with everything it says. Ask her if you have concerns. ... ... Many people do not have your mind set of thinking everything is Zionist ruled but because of the prevalence of such posts here on curezone, few may want to jump in and cause a heated debate. There are bad people everywhere in the world and they are not all Zionists. ... ... Every thought in my mind is a judgement call between right and wrong....so is yours. Try and sti ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Deciphering Truth by turiya 22 mon 1,071

Finding Truth on the internet is just not possible. The same can be said for finding it in any kind of printed material, like a magazine or book (holy or not). You can certainly find it in-between the spoken words, between the lines written on a book page, and in the gaps between the myriad of thoughts that flood your head. ... In this regard remote viewing is very closely related to meditation. But seriously doubt you have yet tasted a moment of meditation to understand what I am talking about here. By all means, seek your comfort zone in whatever suits your understanding. ... ... Perhaps, most ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Deciphering Truth by refreshed 22 mon 1,019

We do have freedom of speech....I most certainly can yell fire in a theater or tell a police officer that he is an idiot......it just matters how important it is to say such a thing and whether I know what my rights are. ... ... I’m just trying to figure out if you really believe in the things you post sometimes. You seem to think peggyaus is yelling fire for no reason. ... ... Sorry, if I interrupted your meditation on this thread. ... ... Cheers :) ... ... ... [End]

Re: Deciphering Truth by turiya 22 mon 978

No, I don’t think Peggyaus is yelling fire for no reason. I think she is feeding on someone else’s vomit and bringing it onto this forum and regurgitating it here. It shows that the author & peggyaus (as well as the Oslo shooter) have a bit of the same dis-ease, the same immaturity & have the same level of an uncivilized irresponsibility. ... ... It certainly is healthy for the author (and shooter) to dispel the puss of a festering sickness that has long deprived him of enjoying a state of physical & mental wellness. Otherwise, why would he be in such a mental state to write such a piece (and ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Deciphering Truth by refreshed 22 mon 1,009

Hmmm, glad I got to read the last part you edited before I replied to you. Trying to bring out the best in me I see. ... ... Since Peggyaus ended her post to me with ”....the fact ofcourse I would never condone using violence as a method of fighting socialists and marxists and other freedom haters.” ... ... ....That doesn’t seem to mean anything to you. Apparently the violence was not what you were talking about. It’s the --I don’t believe in the Zionist takeover party theme-- that you are calling vomit. ... ... I would like to hear what peggyaus has to say as to what she sees coming our way in the US ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Deciphering Truth by peggyaus 22 mon 999

Yes, after coming to this website for many years and seeing the many american members and others finding ”zionist” conspiracies everywhere.. I concluded that they often cannot see beyond their own country’s borders when it comes to assessing or understanding another country’s situation, socially, economically or polically. They see their own situation (not liking the jewish influence in their country) and apply it to every country - and to every sitution, worldwide. This assessment unforunately blindsights them into not being able to see anything else except ”jewish problems”. It is int ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Deciphering Truth by befurther 22 mon 1,005

He was not a terrorist. He was a madman or a lunatic...Not terrorist.(sarc) ... ... Just wondering if anyone else noticed the MSM switch from terror attack to madman assault? [End]

Re: Deciphering Truth by befurther 22 mon 1,000

I get why you see things like you explained however I would like to point out something. ... ... ”They see their own situation (not liking the jewish influence in their country) and apply it to every country - and to every sitution, worldwide. This assessment unforunately blindsights them into not being able to see anything else except ”jewish problems”. It is intellectually lazy and boring.” ... ... First off Zionist does not equal Jewish just ask Joe Bidden. ... Secondly there is an agenda playing out before us, it has been explained, documented, and playing out for hundreds of years. It is based on ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Deciphering Truth by peggyaus 22 mon 1,111

Thanks for pointing it out, but this agenda you speak of does not explain absolutely everything that goes on in the world, and it is not the reason why the shooter went out shooting. I have read the shooter’s manifesto, and his online ramblings. This guy is a nationalist who wrote extensively on the islamic incursions into Europe and the marxist threat of multiculturalism and internationalism. People who are obsessed with zionism cannot easily be lead to understand these issues because they are too obsessed with zionism. [End]

Zionist Obsession or Concern? by befurther 21 mon 923

Zionism is merely a calling card, a name among many, and as distinct a characteristic as one’s nose. The same could be said ...Those who are obsessed with discounting Zionism also too, cannot easily understand the nuances of the over all agenda. ... ... The shooters supposed comments can be rendered, but as has been shown in other posts, his online persona has been tampered with and his supposed manifesto, has portions that have been lifted from the Una-Bomber Manifesto, another sign that all is not as it seems with the Norway incident. [End]

Re: Terror Not-News: Norweigan shooter by peggyaus 22 mon 1,067

I thought you might find this ariticle interesting: ... ... http://warincontext.org/2011/07/26/the-anders-behring-breivik-interview/ [End]

Re: Terror News: Norweigan shooter by #143327 22 mon 1,047

This article and website have no credibility at all and in fact only reinforces the mossad/cia consiracy theory who believe that if they flood the news media with enough lies these lies will be accepted as truth. [End]

Some interesting videos about 9/11 by SmokeAndMirror 22 mon 560

MUST WATCH 9/11 VIDEOS: ... ... 911 Blueprint for Truth ... ... 911 In Plane Site Directors Cut ... ... 911 Mysteries - PART 1 - Demolitions ... ... 911 Revisited - Were explosives used? ... ... Core of Corruption 2009 - In the Shadows ... ... Loose Change - Final Cut ... ... National Security Alert ... ... Painful Deceptions ... ... --- ... And much MORE HERE: ... N WO Survival Guide ... *recently updated with AWESOME artwork. ... --- ... [End]

Poles arrested in connection with the attack on Norway

by befurther 22 mon 925 Conspiracy Theories / Terrorism

A Polish man to be arrested in connection with the terrorist attacks in Norway. The owner operates a company that sells chemicals on the internet. ... ... It reports the number of Polish media Onenet.pl. and Gazeta.pl ... ... The site is suspected of selling chemicals to the 32-year-old, who he allegedly used to manufacture the bomb he blew up in the government building on Friday. ... ... http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/poles-arrested-connection-attack-norway [End]

Don't be so sure we are getting the truth, time will tell WHY the police... by been there done that 22 mon 934

We have become aware of the NWO intelligence agencies stirring up social unrest all across the globe,....why should we not IMMEDIATELY suspect the same thing here??? ... ... ... http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/qrswave/norway-we-will-not-be-naive-watershed-moment ... ... http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/andie531/oslo-survivor-robert-jeppostol-anders-behring-breivik-ties-israel-aj-predicts-oslo-att ... ... They won’t leave ANYBODY alone! ... ... [End]

Why "Special forces" took so long to reach Norwegian island massacre. ...

by befurther 22 mon 2,815 Conspiracy Theories / Terrorism

LOL! The incompetence theorists are going to love this one. ... They are ”special forces” that is for sure! ... ... The wrong helicopter and a sinking boat. ... ... Questions are being raised as to why it took Norwegian police and special forces an hour to reach the island of Utoya - as gunman Anders Behring Breivik indiscriminately opened fire on his unsuspecting victims. ... ... It has emerged that special forces in Oslo did not have an operative helicopter available that could take them straight to the island. ... ... And when they finally arrived after a 28 mile trip by road to Hoenefoss, opposite the islan ... [retrieve this message]

Police guard from massacred Utoya camp missing by befurther 22 mon 3,280

(You would think with the Prime minister about to pay a visit to the island, that there would be a security detail there already. Of course he is a Bilderberger member so he was tipped off to cancel.) ... ... Norwegian police can not find a police guard who was due to be on the Utoya Island where 86 people were killed after Friday’s massacre, Sky News reported on Sunday. ... ... ”There was supposed to be a police officer there,” Sky News quoted Norway’s acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim as saying. The police chief said that it is unclear where the camp’s guard was. ... ... Twin attacks that hit Norwa ... [retrieve this message]

The police guard is dead. by Webmaster 22 mon 2,487

The police guard Trond Berntsen (51) was the second person shot, after Anders shot Monica Bøsei (45). ... ... Trond Berntsen is step-brother of norwegian crown princess Mette Marit: ... ... http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/kronprinsesse-mettemarits-stebror-drept-paa-utoeya-3545468.html ... ... ... picture #7: ... http://www.vg.no/bildespesial/spesial.php?id=8411 ... ... ... ... No government conspiracy here. Just a very sad story. ... ... Webmaster ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: The police guard is dead. by befurther 22 mon 2,166

”No Conspiracy here. Just a very sad story.” ... ... LOL! ... ... Gunman Conspired With “Business and Political Leaders” Before Massacre ... ... ”Anders Behring Breivik said he conspired with “business and political leaders” in London years before he set about planning last week’s massacre, an intruiging connection given the fact that the gunman’s manifesto is datelined “London 2011, suggesting a clear connection to the capital as evidence emerges of a wider plot. ... ... “In the manuscript Breivik describes his “mentor” as an Englishman he identifies as “Richard”, and says his journey into violent extremism ... [retrieve this message]

Gunman Conspired With “Business and Political Leaders” Before Massacre by befurther 21 mon 3,300

"What we don't know is how the police knew the terrorist's name before t... by befurther 22 mon 2,144

jonsnowC4 ... ... https://twitter.com/#!/jonsnowC4/status/95166969032085504 [End]

The police explained that by Webmaster 22 mon 2,412

The police explained that. ... ... They already got his name about 1 hour after the bomb exploded, before he started killing kids on Utøya. ... ... Short time after the explosion, they analyzed videos from the area. The whole area was under video surveillance. ... ... They found the car (bomb) on video, found the plate numbers, found the car was rented Avis, contacted Avis and got the name of the person who rented the car: ”Anders Behring Breivik”. ... ... There are several people in Norway called ”Anders Breivik”, but only one person with the name ”Anders Behring Breivik”. ... ... http://www.1881.no/?Query=%22A ... [retrieve this message]

And, Yet, No mention of the 'Z' word... by turiya 22 mon 2,239

”No government Conspiracy here. Just a very sad story.” http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=53679 ... ... [End]

Re: The police guard is dead. by befurther 22 mon 2,229

Let me know if I’m off base here. ... ... Conspiracy = an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot. ... ... ”Second gunman witnessed ... ... ”Witnesses of Friday’s mass killings in the Norwegian youth camp say there were two terrorists as the shootings were coming from ”two different places on the island at the same time,” Norwegian VG paper reported on Saturday. ... ... ... ... Several young people who survived Utoya’s massacre, told VG paper that the shootings were coming from ”two different places on the island at the same time.” ... ... ”I believe that ... [retrieve this message]

The police still havn't found the second guman by Webmaster 22 mon 2,428

The police still haven’t found the second gunman who was reported by some witnesses. So far only 2 weapons were discovered on Utøya, both in possession of Anders. ... One hand gun, and one automatic rifle. ... ... So far, there is no evidence any other weapon was used. ... There is no evidence of knife being used. ... All victims were shot at close range. ... So far, Anders claims he was alone and majority of ... witnesses who survived have only seen and identified him as shooter. ... ... Other then reports by a very few witnesses, police have no any other tangible evidence of the second gunman. ... ... If the police ... [retrieve this message]

Re: The police still havn't found the second guman by turiya 22 mon 2,308

So far, Anders claims he was alone and majority of ... witnesses who survived have only seen and identified him as shooter. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/187180/20110726/oslo-norway-attack-anders-behring-breivik-acted-alone-insane.htm ... ”Norwegian police BELIEVE that Anders Behring Breivik acted alone, despite Breivik’s claims in court that he was just one of many militant cells involved in the July 22 bombing and shooting in Oslo, Norway.” [Emphasis mine.] ... ... ”Breivik, ...wrote that he was part of a newly re-established Knights Templar, and that he was a part of a ... [retrieve this message]

Breivik - a lone assassin in the tradition of Lee Harvey Oswald by turiya 22 mon 2,433

http://tarpley.net/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/ ... ... ... Norway Terror Attacks a False Flag: More Than One Shooter on Island; Oslo Police Drilled Bomb Blasts; Was It NATO’s Revenge for Norway’s Decision to Stop Bombing Libya? ... ... ... ... [Translate] ... ... by Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D. TARPLEY.net ... ... Washington DC, July 24, 2011 – The tragic terror attacks in Norway display a number of the telltale signs of a false flag provocation. It is reported that, although the world media are attempting to focus on Anders Behring Breivik as a lone assassin in the tradition of ... [retrieve this message]

Another example of Conspiracy by befurther 22 mon 2,242

Norway suspect ordered held, warns of 2 more cells ... ... http://news.yahoo.com/norway-suspect-ordered-held-warns-2-more-cells-134306412.html ... ... 3 examples+ ... ... ... Definitely Conspiracy of some sort. [End]

Re: Another example of Conspiracy, but not government conspiracy. by Webmaster 22 mon 2,342

Yes, Anders claims there are other terrorist cells, but that is not a proof of government conspiracy. ... Anders claiming there are others out there ready to kill is in no way a proof of government conspiracy. ... ... Several kids shoot on Utøya were kids of active members of Norwegian government. ... ... Some of the people who died in explosion were members of Norwegian government. ... ... Webmaster ... ... [End]

Re: Another example of Conspiracy, but not government conspiracy. by befurther 21 mon 2,096

”Yes, Anders claims there are other terrorist cells, but that is not a proof of government conspiracy. ... Anders claiming there are others out there ready to kill is in no way a proof of government conspiracy.” ... ... You made a blanket denial that there was ”no conspiracy”. ... ... I have illustrated that there was. We can debate about what really happened now instead of whether it was or was not a conspiracy. Because evidence points to collusion. ... ... I still say if he worked with people in the government as he stated, then technically the government is involved, be it distinct factions or otherwise. ... [retrieve this message]

Norway's Terrorism Timed to Coincide with Israel's King David Hotel Atta...

by befurther 22 mon 1,794 Conspiracy Theories / Terrorism

Suspected right-wing terrorist Anders Behring Breivik is reported to have written many posts on the website Aftenposten described as ”Islam-critical and Israel-friendly”. The attack on Oslo came exactly 65 years to the day after the Israeli Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem that left over 90 people dead. The violent blast even killed passers by and people in adjacent neighboring buildings. 91 people of various nationalities were killed and 46 were injured This was an attack directed at British soldiers who just the year before, were still fighting the Nazi’s. ... ... http://salem- ... [retrieve this message]

Mossad, Intelligence and OSLO attack by befurther 22 mon 1,979

Mossad, CIA and NATO Attack Democracy in Oslo, Norway ... ... During the Cold War, secret NATO ‘Gladio’ networks carried out false flags attacks in European cities that were falsely blamed on leftist groups and which were intended to create an atmosphere of fear. ... ... The chief beneficiaries of the terror attacks were government security forces, intelligence agencies, and ruling political coalitions. ... ... But state violence and state terror will not bring down the voice of the people of Norway and its democratic government. After the attacks, Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said: ... ... “ ... [retrieve this message]

Norway Shooter, Israel and Albert Pike by befurther 22 mon 1,836

Albert Pike, one of the Founders of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, and a devoted Luciferian, wrote: ... ... ”The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the ”agentur” of the ”Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economic ... [retrieve this message]

Israel looking into revoking Oslo Accords in response to Palestinian UN ... by befurther 22 mon 1,762

Prime Minister’s Bureau confirmed that the National Security Council is discussing alternatives ahead of September, and would present them to the political echelon for a decision when it is done. ... ... http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israel-looking-into-revoking-oslo-accords-in-response-to-palestinian-un-bid-1.375060 [End]

'British Jews should back English Defence League(EDL)' by befurther 22 mon 1,862

EDL develops ties with American Tea Party movement; invites US Rabbi and Tea Party activist to speak on Sharia in London, reports the ’Guardian.’ ... ... http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=190847 ... ... --------- ... ... Norway killer: many within far-right share Anders Breivik’s ideas ... ... His manifesto suggests that some of his ideas were influenced by groups in Britain, namely the English Defence League (EDL). ... ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8658417/Norway-killer-many-within-far-right-share-Anders-Breiviks-ideas.html ... ... ---------- ... ... The English Defence Leagu ... [retrieve this message]

Norway Terror Attack Is False Flag Operation

/40 1 by befurther 22 mon 2,854 Conspiracy Theories / Terrorism

Terrorist Bomb Attack in Oslo, Norway ... Who Dunnit?2 by befurther 22 mon 2,996

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/terrorist-bomb-attack-in-oslo-norway.html [End]

At least two terrorists behind Norwegian youth camp massacre - witnesses3 by befurther 22 mon 2,853

Witnesses of Friday’s mass killings in the Norwegian youth camp say there were two terrorists as the shootings were coming from ”two different places on the island at the same time,” Norwegian VG paper reported on Saturday. ... ... http://en.rian.ru/world/20110723/165350450.html [End]

Lieberman accuses Norway of promoting anti-Semitism4 by befurther 22 mon 2,605

FM slams Norway for marking 150th birthday of pro-Nazi author Knut Hamsun, attending Durban II. ... ... http://www.haaretz.com/news/lieberman-accuses-norway-of-promoting-anti-semitism-1.282524 [End]

Israel: Norway inciting against us5 by befurther 22 mon 2,560

Foreign Ministry says Norwegian authorities funding anti-Israel film, exhibition, and play. Norway: We support freedom of expression ... ... http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3984621,00.html [End]

US embassy accused of spying in Norway, Oslo demands answers6 by befurther 22 mon 2,544

OSLO: Norway has demanded an explanation from the US embassy in Oslo after a television documentary said it had conducted illegal surveillance of hundreds of Norwegian residents for over the past decade. ... ... According to the TV2 News channel, the embassy had employed between 15 and 20 people, including former high-ranking Norwegian police officers, to monitor Norwegians in a bid to ward off attacks on US interests in Norway. ... ... The surveillance had been going on since 2000, said the report. ... ... http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=4615#.TimknbKFFE8.email [End]

Multiple Terrorist Bombings In Oslo, Norway — Signature Of Zionist False...7 by befurther 22 mon 2,520

Collection of articles. ... ... http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/07/22/breaking-multiple-bombings-olso-norway-signature-alqueda-false-flag-39691/ [End]

Jonas Gahr Store: - The occupation must end, the wall must be demolished...8 by befurther 22 mon 2,676

The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday. ... ... http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpolitisk.tv2.no%2Fnyheter%2Fst%25C3%25B8re-om-israel-palestina-konflikten-%25E2%2580%2593-okkupasjonen-ma-opph%25C3%25B8re-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na%2F [End]

Abbas to meet Norwegian Foreign Minister9 by befurther 22 mon 2,514

Palestinian leader President Mahmoud Abbas is in Norway, Monday, for a working lunch with FM Jonas Gahr Støre to discuss the peace process and the current situation in Palestine. ... ... http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/abbas-to-meet-norwegian-foreign-minister/ [End]

Oslo Blast Days After Norway Palestine Ambassador Deal10 by befurther 22 mon 2,700

Just days after Secretary of State; Jonas Gahr Støre said: “Palestinians can govern themselves”, a blast in Oslo has occurred. There has been no claim of responsibility so far so the strongest link to the middle east or any international tension that is related to Norway recently is the Government signing an agreement which enables Palestina to send an ambassador to Norway. ... ... People dressed in police type uniform started firing guns at a Labour party youth camp at which the Norwegian Foreign Minister was present. Reports are that four people have been shot at the camp. It seems that polit ... [retrieve this message]

Norway to support Palestinians – Norwegian FM11 by befurther 22 mon 2,506

Norway will support Palestinians who are set to press for recognition of the independence of their state by the United Nations, says the Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre. ... ... He was speaking following his talks in Oslo with the Palestinian National Administration Head Mahmoud Abbas. ... ... Støre said he saw a likely recognition of Palestine’s independence by the United Nations as no hindrance to a peaceful settlement in the Middle East. He said the Palestinian-Israeli talks should continue irrespectively of the UN voting results. ... ... http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/07/19/53408557.html [retrieve this message]

Norway backs Palestinian bid for UN recognition in September12 by befurther 22 mon 2,496

Norwegian FM says ‘it is perfectly legitimate’ for Palestinian president to turn to the UN with a proposal for statehood. ... Norway, host of the 1993 Palestinian-Israeli peace accords, said on Monday it was “perfectly legitimate” for Palestinians to take their case for statehood to the United Nations for voting in September. ... “We will consider very carefully the proposed text that’s to be put forward by the Palestinians in the coming weeks,” said Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere, with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas beside him at a press conference. ... ... http://www.shoah.org.uk ... [retrieve this message]

Oslo bomber is a Norwegian Freemason and a super ZIONIST!13 by befurther 22 mon 3,184

He was part of the Jewish anti-Muslim movement in Europe by way of the Fjordman Organization. ... ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fjordman ... ... Quote: ... Fjordman is an anonymous Norwegian blogger. He writes articles critical of Islam and he regards Muslim immigration as posing a threat to Western civilization. ... ... http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2575 ... ... Quote: ... The first day of the Counterjihad Brussels 2007 conference was held in the European Parliament, and the second day of working groups was held in the Flemish Parliament. Selected texts, videos and supplementary documents including charte ... [retrieve this message]

Norway twin attacks toll mounts to 8714 by befurther 22 mon 2,534

OSLO — Twin shooting and bomb attacks left at least 87 dead in western Europe’s deadliest carnage since the 2004 Madrid bombings as a Norwegian gunman opened fire at a youth camp and a bomb tore through central Oslo. ... ... The suspect was a 32-year-old Norwegian who posted anti-Muslim rhetoric online, police commissioner Sveinung Sponheim told the NRK television channel, but added: ”It’s too early to say if this was a motive behind the act.” ... ... Police voiced fears that the toll could rise as they searched for victims of the shootings at a summer school meeting organized by Prime Minister Jens ... [retrieve this message]

Oslo attacks: Death toll rises to 98 as suspect is charged15 by befurther 22 mon 2,542

A Norwegian gunman disguised as a police officer beckoned his victims closer before shooting them one by one, claiming at least 91 lives, in a horrific killing spree on an idyllic island teeming with youths that has left this peaceful Nordic nation in mourning. ... ... The island tragedy Friday unfolded hours after a massive explosion ripped through a high-rise building housing the prime minister’s office, killing seven people in a scene some likened to the aftermath of 9/11. ... ... The same man - a blonde-blue eyed Norwegian with reported Christian fundamentalist, anti-Muslim views - is suspected ... [retrieve this message]

Eyewitness Says 20 to 25 Bodies At Norway Youth Camp16 by befurther 22 mon 2,476

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Explosion damages government HQ in Oslo17 by befurther 22 mon 2,558

OSLO, Norway (AP) — A loud explosion shattered windows Friday at the government headquarters in Oslo which includes the prime minister’s office, injuring several people. ... ... Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg is safe, government spokeswoman Camilla Ryste told The Associated Press. There was no immediate word on the cause of the blast ... ... Witness Ole Tommy Pedersen was standing at a bus stop about 100 meters (yards) from the high-rise at around 3:30 p.m. (1330 GMT) when he saw the blast shatter almost all windows of the 20-floor highrise. He said a cloud of smoke is billowing from the bottom flo ... [retrieve this message]

Patsy:Anders Behring Breivik18 by befurther 22 mon 3,405

Police chief Sveinung Sponheim said his internet postings ”suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views”. ... ... ”But whether that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen,” he told Norwegian broadcaster NRK. ... ... Mr Breivik appears to have created entries on social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter, though the accounts were set up just days ago on 17 July. ... ... On the Facebook page attributed to him, he describes himself as a Christian and a conservative. The Facebook page is no longer available but it also listed interests s ... [retrieve this message]

Anders Behring Breivik's comments with Document.no19 by befurther 22 mon 2,834

This is a complete list of comments Anders Behring Breivik has left at Document.no ... ... http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.document.no%2Fanders-behring-breivik%2F ... ... ”Document.no is run by Hans Rustad, who is Jewish and a pro-Zionist. His blog promotes hate of Muslims and supports restriction on Norwegian immigration of Muslims. ” [End]

Youthcamp Terrorist May Have Pro-Israel Motive20 by befurther 22 mon 2,667

The terrorist was a right wing Christian. Norwegian TV via automated translation: ... ... According to TV2’s sources, the arrested belong to the right-extremist groups in eastern Norway, and the man must have registered two weapons on their name - an automatic weapon and a pistol of the type of Glock. ... Breivik listed in their Facebook profile as a conservative and Christian, and he may have a connection to the extreme right environment. ... ... http://www.moonofalabama.org/2011/07/youthcamp-killer-may-have-anti-palestine-motive.html [End]

Norway to pay for lost years of war children

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Norway’s powerful Justice Committee has ordered the government to compensate thousands of people, many of whom were locked up in lunatic asylums because they were the children of Norwegian mothers and German soldiers. ... ... A statement from the committee said the government should quickly draw up a compensation scheme for an estimated 10,000 claimants. ... ... ”The Justice Committee statement has shown us an exit sign from the tunnel of darkness in which we have moved for over 50 years,” said Thor Brandacher, chairman and spokesman for the Lebensborn Committee, and the son of a Norwegian mother an ... [retrieve this message]

MKULTRA: Government Mind Control Experiments22 by befurther 22 mon 2,541

The September 4, 2000 issue of the Norway Post revealed that even the government of Norway was injecting children, psychiatric patients, and others with LSD in the 1950s and 1960s. Ten of its subjects died. ... ... http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xSlUr_u0ncYJ:forwardamerica.blogspot.com/2007/04/mkultra-government-mind-control_28.html+mk+ultra+norway&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk [End]

Anders Breivik, Norwegian Terror Suspect, Admirer of Israel, Avigdor Lie...23 by befurther 22 mon 2,456

Ali Abunimah notes he especially admires Avigdor Lieberman and his Yisrael Beitenu Party. Outside Israel, he also follows the writing of Pam Geller, Robert Spencer (referenced 46 times in the Breivik manifesto) and Daniel Pipes (11 times). Yesterday, I quoted a Norwegian website which claimed that Breivik had identified himself as Fjordman, a regular contributor to the anti-jihadi blogs mentioned above. Geller has denied a connection, as has Gates of Vienna, and it’s possible they are right. I haven’t seen definitive evidence that either proves Breivik and Fjordman are the same or that ... [retrieve this message]

Norway government-run pension fund drops Africa Israel group shares24 by befurther 22 mon 2,495

Oslo says EUR450bn oil fund has excluded two Israeli firms for ethical reasons. ... ... http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/business/norway-government-run-pension-fund-drops-africa-israel-group-shares-1.309874 [End]

Norway to quit Libya operation by August25 by befurther 22 mon 2,535

OSLO, Norway (AP) — Norway will scale down its fighter jet contribution in Libya from six to four planes and withdraw completely from the NATO-led operation by Aug. 1, the government said Friday. ... ... http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/norway-quit-libya-operation-august [End]

Norway looks to curtail Libya air strike role – other European NATO alli...26 by befurther 22 mon 2,584

Norway will scale down its role in NATO-orchestrated air strikes on Libya after its current three-month commitment ends on 24 June, Defence Minister Grete Faremo said on 9 May. Norway was one of the first European states to signal its willingness to implement a UN resolution aimed at protecting Libyan civilians and has six F-16s flying sorties. ... ... ”If NATO continues operations in Libya after June 24, a possible Norwegian contribution will be different and less comprehensive than the current one,” Faremo told parliament. “There is no military solution to the situation in Libya,” she added. ... [retrieve this message]

The proposal deals with Norway's participation in the Libyan war27 by befurther 22 mon 2,516

The world’s credibility in the confrontation with Gadafi regime is weakened when the reaction to other states in the region who commit abuses against civilians fail. Verdenssamfunnet må derfor også reagere mot israelske fly angrep på Gaza-stripen, heter det i forslaget til uttalelse. The world community must also act against Israeli aircraft attack in the Gaza Strip, said the proposal for comment. ... ... http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=no&tl=en&u=http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4073714.ece [End]

Norway Oil Fund divests from Israeli companies28 by befurther 22 mon 2,473

Norway’s Ministry of Finance announced that the Norway Oil Fund divested from Africa-Israel Investments and Danya Cebus Ltd. on Monday. ... ... The reason given is the companies’ construction in the West Bank. ... ... The Norwegian Finance Ministry said, ”The ethics council stresses that construction of settlements in the occupied territories violates the decision of the Geneva convention regarding defense of civilians during war time. Several decisions of the UN Security Council and the International Court of Justice have reached the conclusion that construction of Israeli settlements in the Palest ... [retrieve this message]

Second suspect arrested29 by befurther 22 mon 2,551

Norwegian police arrested a second man this morning at a hotel in Sundvolden, where the survivors from the Utoya Island massacre had gathered and where Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg was due to visit. ... ... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3710902/At-least-92-people-are-killed-in-two-gun-and-bomb-attacks-in-Norway-by-a-crazed-hunting-fan.html [End]

Re: Second suspect arrested30 by befurther 22 mon 2,527

No False Flag, just an idiot freemason31 by pez 22 mon 2,423

serving his zionist/Talmudic/cabbalist masters. [End]

Norwegian police arrest six in Oslo raids32 by befurther 22 mon 2,485

Police in Norway have arrested six more people in connection with Friday’s twin terror attack which killed at least 92 people. ... ... Police carried out a raid on properties in Oslo earlier this morning. It is unclear why the raids are happening. ... ... Already a 32-year-old Norwegian Christian Fundamentalist, named Anders Bahring Brevik, has admitted responsibility for carrying out the mass shooting and bomb attack. ... ... He is due to appear in court tomorrow. ... ... He claims he alone planted a bomb which exploded at Government Buildings in Oslo, killing seven people. ... ... Hours later and disguised as a ... [retrieve this message]

Shooters used untraceable dum-dum bullets33 by befurther 22 mon 2,862

A chief surgeon treating the wounded from Friday’s mass shooting, meanwhile, said he believes the attacker used special ”dum-dum” bullets that cause massive internal injuries. The doctor told The Associated Press that the killer’s chosen ammo ”exploded inside the body.” ... ... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_NORWAY_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-07-24-13-06-29 ... ... ”These bullets more or less exploded inside the body,” Poole said. ”It’s caused us all kinds of extra problems in dealing with the wounds they cause, with very strange trajectories.” ... ... Ballistics ... [retrieve this message]

Motive for a false-flag terror attack in Norway.34 by befurther 22 mon 2,733

By Mike Rivero ... ... Here is what I think went down. ... ... 1. Israel decides the best way to halt Norway’s leading of Europe away from Zionist domination is to stage a terror attack to be blamed on Muslims, in order to put public pressure on the government of Norway to abandon BDS and support for Palestine. Why Israel would think anyone will believe Muslims would attack nations that support them betrays Israel’s presumption that non-tribe people are really stupid, but that is the subject for another article. ... ... 2. Israel’s agents in Norway locate a patsy, Anders Behring Breivik, through the docu ... [retrieve this message]

Norway police arrive 90 minutes after firing began35 by befurther 22 mon 2,445

Police arrived at an island massacre about an hour and a half after a gunman first opened fire, slowed because they didn’t have quick access to a helicopter and then couldn’t find a boat to make their way to the scene just several hundred yards (meters) offshore. The assailant surrendered when police finally reached him, but 82 people died before that. ... ... http://www.kctv5.com/story/15134237/norway-horror-80-die-in-camp-shooting-7-in-blast ... ... ....A SWAT team was dispatched to the island more than 50 minutes after people vacationing at a campground said they heard shooting across the lake, a ... [retrieve this message]

Man Who Knew Anders Behring Breivik Says He Was Brainwashed36 by befurther 22 mon 2,935

Parts of Manifesto lifted directly from Una-bomber37 by befurther 22 mon 2,605

The example below shows some of Anders Behring Breivik has copied. ... ... From Una-bomb’s manifesto: ... One of the most wide spread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism Can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general. ... ... 7. But what is leftism? Hum the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically Identified with Socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear WHO Can pray properly called a leftist. When we speak of leftist in this article we garden in ... [retrieve this message]

Jens Stoltenberg... Bilderberg attendee38 by befurther 22 mon 2,955

http://www.bilderberg.org/2002.htm [End]

And Norways Prime Minister39 by befurther 22 mon 2,376

“Today we are mourning,” an emotional Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg told the congregation. “Each and every one of those who’ve left us is a tragedy. Together, it’s a national tragedy. You should know that we are crying with you, we feel for you.” ... ... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-23/norwegian-authorities-mine-online-postings-for-clues-to-breivik-s-motives.html [End]

Police Guard 'Was Meant To Be On Island'40 by befurther 22 mon 2,517

A police guard had been due to be on the Norwegian island where a gunman massacred at least 86 people but detectives do not know where he was, they reveal. ... ... http://www.iwradio.co.uk/news/world/norway-suspect-confesses-to-twin-attacks-16036361/ [End]

Most Convincing Website That 911 Was an Inside Job by #69242 22 mon 694 Conspiracy Theories / Terrorism

... ... http://patriotsquestion911.com/ [End]

Inside the mind of Anders Behring Breivik (32)

by Webmaster 22 mon 4,157 Politics Debate / Conspiracy / Terrorism

Inside the mind of Anders Behring Breivik (32) ... ... Anders Behring Breivik purchased 6 metic tones of artificial fertilizers few months ago. ... ... Here are the original writings of Anders Behring Breivik, as published on document.no ... ... http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/ ... ... ... Anders Behring Breivik was not hiding his anti-immigration views. ... ... ... Parts of the document.no page translated by software ( http://translation.babylon.com/norwegian/to-english/ ... ) ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 2010-09-01 08:19:15 ... ... Lasse Moer, ... Japan and South Korea are much clearer examples of in-country which has consi ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Inside the mind of Anders Behring Breivik (32) by Webmaster 22 mon 3,953

... ... ... ... ... ... ... Message posted on document.no by Anders Behring Breivik ... on 2010-02-17 10:56:52 ... ... The problem is that it often does not help that about 80% of Muslims are ”moderates”, if they ignore the Quran. ... ... ”It takes very few people to blow a plane.” ... ... What percentage of Pakistan’s population are Taliban? ... ... 1%, 3%, 5%? ... ... And how much chaos is there today? ... ... In every society where Islam exists there will be a certain percentage of Muslims who actually follow the traditional interpretations of the Koran. ... ... And then we have the relationship between conservative Muslims and so-call ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Inside the mind of Anders Behring Breivik (32) by Webmaster 22 mon 3,338

2010-02-16 19:25:24 ... ... ... According to two studies, 13% of young British Muslims between 15 and 25 support Al Qaeda ideology. ... ... UK is representative for Norway, so I would guess that at least 15-20% of Norwegian Muslims support murder of homosexuals. ... There is certainly no fewer who support killing of homosexuals, than those who support Al Qaeda. ... ... ... ... 2010-02-02 13:35:11 ... ... I completely agree that Obama is a brilliant retoriker and communicator, one of the best we’ve seen over the past 30 years. ... ... But firstly, we can not and should not compare the cultural struggle in the U.S. with that ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Inside the mind of Anders Behring Breivik (32) by Webmaster 22 mon 3,616

2010-01-25 05:20:24 ... ... Public Enemy, Carl Christian, ... ... What you manage to come up with here is nothing but very nasty power control techniques. ... ... You claim that all Norwegians who do not follow Landsmo’s container Gro Harlem Brundtland definition, are racist: ... ... ”Everyone who has a Norwegian passport is fully valued Norwegian” ... ... ... Which means that even a Somali (with a Norwegian passport) who chews khat all day, who beats his wife and sends half of his money to al-Shabaab should be viewed as a full-blooded Norwegian? ... ... According to you, anyone in this country who dares to look at th ... [retrieve this message]

Witnesses of Utøya masacre by Webmaster 22 mon 3,731

Witnesses of Utøya masacre ... ... An excerpt from Prableen Kaur’s blog ... ... http://prableen.origo.no/-/bulletin/show/672218_helvete-paa-utoeya?ref=mst ... ... ... ”I decided that if he comes, I would play dead. I would not run or swim. I can not describe the fear, all of my thoughts, what I felt. ... ... One man came. ”I’m from the police.” ... I was lying. Some shouted back that he had to prove it. I do not remember exactly what he said, but the killer started shooting with gun. ... He reloaded his gun. He was shooting more. He shot those around me. I was lying. I thought: ... ... ”Now it’s over. He’s here. He is ... [retrieve this message]

Oslo Attacks Have Characteristics of False Flag Operation by turiya 22 mon 3,112

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- Parts of Manifesto lifted directly from Una-bomber by befurther 22 mon 3,039
  
  http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1838626#i [End]

Video uploaded by Anders Behring Breivik: Knights Templar 2083 by Webmaster 22 mon 3,718

Video uploaded by Anders Behring Breivik ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOfH8Dj1mw ... ... Knights Templar 2083 ... ... [End]

Manifesto by Anders Behring Breivik: 2083 A European Declaration of Inde... by Webmaster 22 mon 11,491

Manifesto by Anders Behring Breivik ... ... 2083 A European Declaration of Independence ... ... ... http://curezone.com/upload/_O_P_Forums/Politics/2083+-+A+European+Declaration+of+Independence.pdf ... ... ... 2083 A European Declaration of Independence.docx ... ... About the compendium - 2083 ... ... ... “The men the European public admires most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.” ... ... ... ... You can see a movie presentation of the compendium by visiting the below links. It will not be available for a long period so consider taking a backup ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Inside the mind of Anders Behring Breivik (32) by peggyaus 22 mon 3,135

He didn’t like islamic incursions into Europe and socialist/marxist ideology. The kids he shot were attending a leftist camp. It will be very interesting to hear what he has to say for himself. [End]

Re: Inside the mind of Anders Behring Breivik (32) by peggyaus 22 mon 3,150

Here is his manifesto: ... ... http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-content/uploads/2083+-+A+European+Declaration+of+Independence.pdf ... ... ... http://curezone.com/upload/_O_P_Forums/Politics/2083+-+A+European+Declaration+of+Independence.pdf [End]

Re: Inside the mind of Anders Behring Breivik (32) by Mira528 22 mon 2,990

Deepest sympathies to you and all the people of Norway. It makes me wonder how low can someone go. I hope that the good people of your country can find peace and hope amidst the trauma. [End]

Victms faces by Webmaster 22 mon 3,131

Victms faces22 07 2011 Victms faces ... ... http://curezone.com/upload/_O_P_Forums/Politics/22_07_2011_Norway_masacre_victoms_faces.jpg [End]

Right Wing Nut suspect in Oslo bombings by gaving 22 mon 752 Politics Debate / Conspiracy / Terrorism
- Re: Right Wing Nut suspect in Oslo bombings by peggyaus 22 mon 845
  
  Its a facinating and tragic development so coincidentally soon after the government propaganda comes out with ”white terrorist” alerts yesterday. [End]
  - Re: Right Wing Nut suspect in Oslo bombings by gaving 22 mon 768
    
    Do you see conspiracy coincidence in every right wing act? [End]
- Re: Right Wing Nut suspect in Oslo bombings by Dquixote1217 22 mon 875
  
  Better stated as an "anti-Islam wingnut". Like the Oklahoma City bombing, initial reaction was that it was somehow a Muslim terrorist act. ... [End]
  - Re: Right Wing Nut suspect in Oslo bombings by gaving 22 mon 715
    
    News says ”righ wing Christian Fundamentalist.” ... ... Terrorism/extremism comes in all stripes, colors and, sadly, religions. [End]
Forgotten Facts by Johny Apple Bomb 4 year 800

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6517776133137328105&ei=i6vrSpe1KqLwqAOZz8HlDg&q=alex+jones+&hl=en [End]

The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror by peggyaus 4 year 4,974

... http://frontpagemag.com/?p=22939 ... ... Ahmadinejad’s Lust for Blood – by Jamie Glazov ... ... Glenn Beck did a superb job on his program last night discussing the horrifying belief system that shapes Ahmadinejad’s lust for wiping Israel off the face of the earth. ... ... Beck refers to the Iranian despot as “the Twelver” because Ahmadinejad believes that he must purify the earth with as much human blood (and preferably the Jewish variety) as possible in order to hasten the return of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi, who is the much-anticipated Islamic messiah. This is precisely what Ahmadinejad was talking a ... [retrieve this message]

“The Secret History of 9/11,” SBS TV, 12:00-1:00 a.m. 11 September 2008.... by RonPrice9 5 year 2,941

A NEW-OLD WAR ... ... In my last weeks in the classroom as a full-time teacher and the first weeks of my early retirement, in what was the spring of 1999, a series of meetings finalized the organization, the leadership and the financial backing for a coordinated suicide attack that had been initially proposed to Osma Bin Laden and al-Qaeda in 1996. That attack was centred on the crashing of two airliners into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. Five years and five months after that series of meetings, on 9 September 2001, two hijacked airliners crashed into the Twin Towe ... [retrieve this message]

the five dancing israelis by 2Sirius 6 year 1,465

”they where just there to record the event” ... ... ... http://beirut.indymedia.org/ar/2006/12/6287.shtml ... [End]

Ron Paul on Health Freedom by #16098 6 year 1,113

Here are a few videos with Ron Paul Discussing his views on Health Care.... ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWLwJyc0ZqI ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rqcDfrxKIE ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuEdJ0DAGc ... ... ... ... If you like what he has to say, consider participating in the Boston Tea Party 2007 ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3M2D3V94M ... [End]

The Kennebunkport Warning And The Rogue B-52-Confirmation

by Zoebess 6 year 2,442

This proves we *can* do something~~ ... ... ```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ... The events of August and September now allow us to evaluate the accuracy of the August 26 Kennebunkport Warning, which generated much attention and controversy from the moment it was issued. The preliminary verdict of history is now in, and establishes the Kennebunkport Warning as one of the most remarkable successes of open source intelligence forecasting in recent decades. It may even have directly helped to disrupt Cheney’s plan for a nuclear sneak attack ... [retrieve this message]

Re: The Kennebunkport Warning And The Rogue B-52-Confirmation by ei1321 6 year 1,851

do u thinkif the iranians start drinking their own urine (urine therapy 143,000 web-pages on google) they will stop doing rogue things. ... ... thanks, ... Erach ... [End]

Re: The Kennebunkport Warning And The Rogue B-52-Confirmation by Zoebess 6 year 1,886

ummm....no, do you?? ... ... I am not convinced that the Iranians are not ... protecting their interests just as we might if ... our sovereignty might be jeopardized. ... ... It is a more complex problem which I doubt ... will be solved by passing around a bottle of piss. ... ... be happy, be well, ... Zoe ... ... -_- [End]

Re: The Kennebunkport Warning And The Rogue B-52-Confirmation by Celcius 6 year 1,985

Thanks Zoe ! ... This is a great article and so uplifting! Brooohah for our military patriots! ... I havent been to Rense .com in a while because it became so disheartening and dark , its so good to hear about such a propositive event such as this one! ... ~C~ [End]

Bra check upsets court visitor by Zoebess 6 year 1,212

This situation reminded me of the airport security ... checking out Donna’s grandbaby’s diaper for weapons. ... Ladies, you may consider that your underwire bra may ... be considered a weapon and decide to wear a bra to ... court which would not be considered potentially ... weaponized! ... ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ... ... ... ... Bra check upsets court visitor ... ... Taryn Hecker ... Staff writer ... October 4, 2007 ... ... A Bonners Ferry woman says she was humiliated when security guards at the federal courthouse in Coeur d’Alene told her she’d have to remove her ... [retrieve this message]

let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university..

by trapper/kcmo 6 year 2,712 News / Politics D / Terrorism

just delivered the most asinine introduction for the iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad i have ever heard in my life. he called him a petty dictator, a human rights violator, a holocaust denier and a terrorist supporter. i tell you now, the world should embrace such a brave man as this instead of trying so hard to demonize him. but more importantly, they should listen to him and consider what he says. ... ... this man is an educator too. he is no fool. that he makes claims to his own people to appeal to their emotions is no different than politics in the rest of the world. ... ... he says th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by InCharge 6 year 2,402

The fact that you can’t read the forum topic for posting here indicates who the real fool is. ... ... Considering the garbage that you posted, it is no surprise. ... ... [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by trapper/kcmo 6 year 2,380

as a forum owner, i cant post it in the right forum. but surprise, surprise. the webmaster must have crossposted this for me to get the attention of those who obviously dont get the significance of it all. thank you for confirming that with the voluminous substance of your rebuttal. [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by Dquixote1217 6 year 2,312

The votes aren’t looking good here for you - better stop the count and take it to the Supreme Court. ... ... [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by squish your spiders 5 year 2,139

Considering that Iran is part of the Axis of evil, and the aggressive policy toward Iran by our administration, I think that talking about Iran in a terrorism forum is appropriate. ... ... I happen to agree that what ever you think about a man, you should hear his arguments out. I don’t happen to think you are right here, but, obviously, I am willing to hear you out. Why is his post asinine? [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by Newport 6 year 2,377

Something has got to make the headlines tonight...best it NOT be Ahmadinejad’s words...national security and all that... ... [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by trapper/kcmo 6 year 2,218

it is shameful the way people act in this country. to think that the words of a bozo like bush can still resonate with the people of this country. it shows just how owned we really are. i would like to se some headlines from around the world tomorrow. [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by Newport 6 year 2,268

Don’t worry the megaphone campaign is already in full swing: ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_tool ... ... ... Message boards and call-in shows will be/are targeted today... ... ... War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength ignorance is strength gnorance is strength ... [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by trapper/kcmo 6 year 2,207

oh well, orwell. [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by LuellaMay 6 year 2,323

"i dont care how you slice it, what kind of mental disease do people have to have to think iran is a threat to the US? its got to be one deep, deep psychosis." ... ... Everybody believes the propaganda Trapper. I think we have reached a new low in our country when we invite somebody to speak and then demean them publicly. He should not have been invited in the first place. ... ... The sheeple only believe what they are spoon fed as they watch the controlled media day in and day out. Talk shows have reached a new low as they talk about nothing productive and merely ... [retrieve this message]

Does that mean we would have to read? by Dquixote1217 6 year 2,241

Research? But that would involve "shudder" reading and "gasp" forming our own opinions instead of having them formed for us. ... ... DQ ... [End]

Re: Does that mean we would have to read? by LuellaMay 6 year 2,207

LOL I know DQ, it’s an interesting concept. Maybe while doing research people wouldn’t have the time to watch the news. ... ... Hugs, ... ... Luella ... [End]
- Re: Does that mean we would have to read? by Dquixote1217 6 year 2,232
  
  News? It’s missing Jerry Springer and the reality shows I’m worried about having to miss. ... ... [End]
  - Re: Does that mean we would have to read? by LuellaMay 6 year 2,269
    
    LOL! Oh! Well, in that case...........\ ... ... Hugs, ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: Does that mean we would have to read? by squish your spiders 5 year 3,116

I think that the way that our economy is set up, reading time for non-job related stuff is a bare minimum for the vast majority of our country. Thats even before we talk about the people who don’t enjoy reading. [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by trapper/kcmo 6 year 2,230

the little hitler, as he is called, is no boy scout, but then who in charge is? putin used to run the old kgb in the soviet regime. george bush practically licked his boots. go figure. ... ... btw, one of the platforms upon which putin won his position was that he would get alaska back, even if it meant war. thank god politicians lie. [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by Ohfor07 6 year 2,296

Trapper, thanks for your report. Prior to reading your post, I was not aware of this story and it’s goings on ....oh the bliss of being TV-less ! :) It was about 2 hours later that I then did the routine daily weather check by way of a local MSM web site, where their variant of headline to this same situation was predictably glaring.... so I sampled. What a differnce two perspectives make! It took about 30 seconds of getting into the MSM version to get to the gist of what this Bollinger character was all about; minion ringmaster pumping up an audience of mental robots with a passionate ro ... [retrieve this message]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by trapper/kcmo 6 year 2,237

yea, kent state sure took the steam out of college students. the lesson lingers on. [End]

Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by Hidden Username 6 year 2,183

flapper, it sounds like u’d like to move to iran. if so, i’ll buy your fare and immigration costs. let me know. [End]
Re: let me break some news to you - the president of columbia university... by simplify 6 year 2,235

...the good christians were protesting outside. ... ... trapper, it’s a good thing it wasnn’t just the other around, otherwise lots of people would have died. [End]

Airline Profiling by Zoebess 6 year 1,186

Wow, I did not realize the airlines were ... profiling by race and made notes on what ... you are reading or carrying in your carry ... on’s. I am sure I am listed as a health ... nut who watches adventure DVDs on my ... laptop~~and reads alternative healing books! ... ... http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/09/flight_tracking ... ... blessings, ... Zoe ... ... -_- [End]

Zeitgeist movie by #81599 6 year 1,187

Wasn’t Greenspan wonderful? ... ... ... http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com ... ... ... The truth will set you free. [End]

Alan Greenspan Admits

by Zoebess 6 year 2,734 Iraq War Debate / Politics D / Terrorism

From The Sunday Times ... September 16, 2007 ... ... Alan Greenspan claims Iraq war was really for oil ... Graham Paterson ... ... AMERICA’s elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil. ... ... In his long-awaited memoir, to be published tomorrow, Greenspan, a Republican whose 18-year tenure as head of the US Federal Reserve was widely admired, will also deliver a stinging critique of President George W Bush’s economic policies. ... ... However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke ... [retrieve this message]

Is there really anyone today so stupid ... by White Shark 6 year 2,981

Is there really anyone today so stupid to believe Bush’s and Blair’s version of the ”reason for war”? ... ... ... All you need to do is watch Fahrenheit 9/11. ... It is all clear and supported with recordings. ... ... Bush and Blair never believed that Saddam has any weapons. They just knew how to make stupid people believe a lie. The USA ”independent media” helped them a lot. ... ... There is no such a thing as ”Independent media” in The USA. ... There is no such a thing as ”Real Democracy” in The USA. ... The naive people of US are just manipulated poppets. ... ... Oh my god ... humans are so stupid creatures somet ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Is there really anyone today so stupid ... by Zoebess 6 year 2,823

There are many people (sheeple) who cannot see anything ... which is not right before their very eyes, and even if ... it is before their eyes, they will insist it is not what ... it is. ... ... One of my neighbors told me she votes Republican ... no matter what. It does not matter whose name it ... is or what they stand for...if it is Republican, ... she will vote for it. In my mind I think she is too ... lazy to decide who would be best as a voicepiece for ... our country, and then to remember his or her name ... at the voting booth. (although with the voting ... corruption, I wonder myself, if we do have a choice) ... ... Sti ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Alan Greenspan Admits by #54894 6 year 2,816

Stabilizing the world oil supply was one reason but it wasn’t at the top of the list. Saddam obviously supported and allowed the training of terrorists. After 911 it became clear he had to go, along with many others. If not, he would have surely caused endless trouble down the road. Instead, he is where we all need him. Dead. ... ... ... http://www.husseinandterror.com/ ... ... ... ... If you believe the US only went to Iraq for oil you are truly a sheep led by leftist wacko’s. Just as the blind right wingers are in other cases. [End]

Re: Alan Greenspan Admits by Zoebess 6 year 2,736

Sure, there are more than a few reasons ... this war was started. I was in Fayetteville, ... North Carolina, where Fort Bragg is, being a ... nanny for a military family, and remember ... sitting in a room with more than a few women, ... Army soldiers, and the announcement came they ... were being called up to deploy to the *operation* ... Iraqi Freedom. They had been expecting it and ... of course, at that time, the women were saying, ... oh, they expect this to be 2 weeks, a month, no ... more. I said, HA~! look for it lasting over a ... year. Then within days the looting began; local, ... corporate, and administrative lev ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Alan Greenspan Admits by #81599 6 year 2,875

You need to watch zietgeist. ... ... ... http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com ... ... ... The whole terrorist thing is a scam. Here’s proof. [End]

Re: Alan Greenspan Admits by Infinitelove 6 year 2,781

’AMERICA’s elder statesman of finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the White House by declaring that the prime motive for the war in Iraq was oil.’ ... ... ’ Bush said the aim was to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction and end Saddam’s support for terrorism.’ ... ... ... This admission will hopefully plummet the 36% approval rating of BushCo. Methinks that this will effectively re-route the popular vote more to Hill-acious Clinton...this effect may have been the reason why this statement was made. [End]

Re: Alan Greenspan Admits by #54894 6 year 2,706

Hillary Clinton voted for the War and all money for the War. So why would this help her? Ron Paul voted against the War. It should only help him. [End]
Re: Alan Greenspan Admits by Zoebess 6 year 2,830

Yeah, it makes it a little confusing wondering ... if, at age 81, he decided to care, or not care. ... ... blessings, ... Zoe ... ... -_- [End]
- Re: Alan Greenspan renegs by Raynbo 6 year 2,692
  
  Not to care... ... ... ... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/17/the_skinny/main3267685.shtml ... [End]

The Iraq war was really about Israel who are you kidding? by #3506 6 year 2,854

Very few Jews would admit to this established fact. ... ... http://nowarforisrael.com/ ... [End]

No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?

/104 1 by LuellaMay 6 year 5,417 Politics Debate / Conspiracy / Terrorism

I have just been informed that Hal Turner is anti semetic. My opinions in no way coincide with his. I just thought that this article was very interesting in view of the fact that the Air Force command structure had been ordered to stand down on September 14th. ... ... ... From Hal Turner: ... ... ... ... Updated 10 September 2007 at 2030 HRS EDT ... ... ... ... ISRAELI AIRLINE HAS ”NO FLIGHTS” DEPARTING NEW YORK ON FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 14: ... ... NOTE THEY AREN’T SAYING ”NO SEATS AVAILABLE” BUT INSTEAD ”NO FLIGHT” ... ... ... ... Strange that the main airline in Israel suddenly has ”no flight” from the biggest jew population c ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?2 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,973

When I tried to fly to Kentucky I noticed on certain days there are no flights ... ... You have to remember that Hal Turner is into senationalism. By his own writing, here is an excerpt: ... ... Outspoken, opinionated and brutally blunt, Hal Turner has been called one of the Founding Fathers of the talk radio revival. Hal brings the kind of intellect, humor and a candidness to talk radio which hasn’t been heard in years. His biting commentary drives Leftists nuts and makes the politically-correct crowd run for cover. ... ... "Jews seemed to "know" some big attack ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?3 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,858

Torrie, I wrote a disclaimer that I did not agree with this man but that I thought this article was interesting in light of the order to ground all United States Air Force Planes on September 14th. I am not familiar with this man and when I was told who and what he was, since I could not delete the post, I put in the disclaimer. ... ... If this article does offend anyone I sincerely apologize. ... ... ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?4 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,961

Ok. But you might want to see if anyone more credible says same thing about the no flights by Jews on the 14th. It’s pretty easy to test, though. Don’t we just wait until the 14th and see if anything happens? ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?5 by Zoebess 6 year 5,003

I agree, especially in light that our entire ... American Air Force is also on stand down. It ... is with hindsight, we can see there were red ... flags across the globe as certainly there were ... people who knew that on 9-11 something was going ... down. Thanks for highlighting another thread ... which may be part of a bigger picture...keep ... digging~! ... ... http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_standdown_070807/ ... ... blessings, ... Zoe ... ... -_- [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?6 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 5,039

I know I am in the minority, at least in here anyway, but I believe everyone found out about 9/11 at the same time as I did, at roughly 10 in the morn when it happened. [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?7 by Zoebess 6 year 5,146

No, I am in the minority who believe that it was ... our generation’s Pearl Harbor... ... ... http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=188218 ... ... http://www.rense.com/Datapages/ess911.htm ... ... blessings, ... Zoe ... ... -_- [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?8 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,950

Uh....... Not everybody. ... ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=i6QLnvvyIzg ... ... Luella ... [End]

Debunking 9/11 Myths9 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 5,352

Here is a very good book by an Expert: ... ... ... ... Editorial Reviews ... ... From Booklist ... ... Expanding on an article published in Popular Mechanics in March 2005, the staff of the highly regarded magazine painstakingly deconstructs many of the myths surrounding the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Drawing on interviews with engineers, aviation experts, military officials, eyewitnesses, and investigators, this book addresses only those questions raised by conspiracy theorists, mostly that somehow the U.S. government was behind the attacks, and puts forth no theory of its own. Each section announces a t ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?10 by phxvalleygirl 6 year 4,802

Lotsa important names, some with ’letters’ after them...but it’s BUNK! WTC-7 was pulled by a controlled demo - as were the others. There is PROOF of it that no one can de-bunk! [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?11 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,680

I love that lampshades pic. I voted on it. ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?12 by rabbitears 6 year 4,980

Hi LuellaMay! ... ... Thanks for this post. IF something happens at least we all have a heads up. Let’s hope that nothing occurs -- we don’t need Martial Law implemented in full-force. [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?13 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,805

The guy is saying that Jews have something to do with terrorism and that is why there are no flights for them that day. I do not believe it. ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?14 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,812

By all means, no we don’t need martial law implemented. I have noticed that when something like this leaks out, that their plan is foiled and nothing happens. Hopefully, this is one of these instances. We know that this order has been made. However, the public, or enough of us know about it now. Would they be so blatant as to pull it off anyway? ... ... My guess is that this is another plan that has been foiled again. ... ... Hugs, ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?15 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,855

... ... ... ... ... WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A B-52 bomber mistakenly carried six nuclear warheads on air-launched cruise missiles on a flight from North Dakota to Louisiana last week, prompting a major investigation, military officials have confirmed. ... ... ... ... The plane took the cruise missiles last Thursday from Minot Air Force Base to Barksdale Air Force Base for decommissioning, but the warheads should have been removed from the missiles before they were attached to the B-52, according to military officials. The crew was unaware that they were carrying nuclear weapons, the officials said, speaking o ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?16 by phxvalleygirl 6 year 4,762

I’m with you in that our Air Force does have no-fly days periodically, and it doesn’t have to mean that we are going to have a catastrophic event. I’m told that it doesn’t mean that they can’t defend us if something happens. ... The thing that bothers me is that someone told me this: ... "If they crash our economy, as someone has bet on (using 6 BILLION in put options) by Sept. 21’s, we will have no choice but to accept the Amero as a "only thing that can save us"." [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?17 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,748

Don’t believe everything someone tells you. As the Webmaster says, ... ... "Some people just love crap." ... ... See: ... ... Re: Axis Shift = Bull Shift by Webmaster ... ... North American Union ... ... Deception Of The Masses Or... ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?18 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,740

There was an airforce stand down on 911. Nobody defended us on that day. ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?19 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,688

yes, this is what happened: ... ... WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A B-52 bomber mistakenly carried six nuclear warheads on air-launched cruise missiles on a flight from North Dakota to Louisiana last week, prompting a major investigation, military officials have confirmed. ... ... ... ... The plane took the cruise missiles last Thursday from Minot Air Force Base to Barksdale Air Force Base for decommissioning, but the warheads should have been removed from the missiles before they were attached to the B-52, according to military officials. The crew was unaware that they were carrying nuclear weapons, the officia ... [retrieve this message]

SIX BILLION is chickenfeed.20 by been there done that 6 year 5,183

The US government doesn’t play with small amounts of money anymore. ... ... The Bush administration took old fashion corruption to new levels. ... ... http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-05-28-federal-budget_N.htm?csp=34 ... ... ... ... ... At this site, press CTRL F, enter TWELVE, and press enter. ... ... http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_10_24/cover.html ... ... ... [End]

Re: SIX BILLION is chickenfeed.

/104 21 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,963

When you have Capitalism and a Government, that is what happens. You can’t have the fox guarding the hen house. ... Profits Before Health ... ... How Capitalists look out for their bottom line instead of your health... ... ... http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=218 ... ... State Of The Country ... ... Who’s On First? ... ... http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=238 ... ... ... Deception Behind The Mattel Recall ... ... Par for the course... ... ... http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=217 ... ... The Goal of Humans ... ... Is destruction our goal? ... ... http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=1184&i=201 ... ... Cigaret ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?22 by detour 6 year 5,551

I don’t think that El Al flys Fridays out of U.S.(NY/L.A.) , anyway-so that rumor ... is true...they are not flying out of US on the 14th. I could be mistaken though... ... ... ... http://booking.elal.co.il/ebooking/action/set-home?LANG=EN ... ... ... As far as 4000 Jews with the blue flu on 9/11... ... ... ... http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/w/wtcisraelis.htm ... ... ... http://www.adl.org/ADL_Opinions/Anti_Semitism_Global/911_Conspiracies.htm ... ... ... Believe what you will...Pretty sad when Americans fall into or even consider ... rumors like these. ... ... A total of 2,071 occupants of the World Trade Center died on Sept ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?23 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,845

Excellent post and I agree with you 100%. ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?24 by Raynbo 6 year 4,927

A few days before 9/11 there was some unusual stock trading on the airlines involved. That is another place to look. [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?25 by Newport 6 year 4,846

Apparently this is too complicated for the authorities to figure out :) ... ... ... Funny because my taxman knows exactly what trades I did... ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?26 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,825

Also the stock market. Hmmmm...... Are we connecting dots yet? ... ... Hugs, ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?27 by detour 6 year 4,776

The dots are there, just like the JFK cover up. ... ... The American public in general, it seems , turns ... the other cheek, usually with the excuse, ”what can I do?” ... ... Most or at least 51%, anyway, say,” George W would never do ... anything like that...” ... ... Or blame it on the Jews or whatever, God forbid our gov had ... anything to do with it... ... ... I have my assumptions that 9/11 WAS very possibly an inside job. ... ... ... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fema_report.html ... ... ... If anyone out there thinks this government and the ... powers to be are beyond a scheme like this then good ... luck. ... ... Not that it is ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?28 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,783

... ... The Gov’t has been scheming and junk since it has been around. But a line is drawn at blowing up it’s own cities. .0001% of the population believe all the 9/11 conspiracy theories. ... ... In 50 years, if the polar ice caps haven’t flooded us, all the conspiracy theorists will be playing shuffleboard in Florida and will have forgotten all about their thoughts about all these evil Government people and evil forces. ... ... It actually reminds me of sitting around the campfire back at 6th grade camp, telling boogeyman stories. ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?29 by detour 6 year 4,722

I hope I’m playing shuffleboard in 50 years! I’ll be 100 then! And if I make it that long, without getting hit by a truck or the like prior,then I’ll attribute my longevity to being a very conscious person-healthwise, mentally,worldly and spiritually , questioning the powers to be and all the things they strive for us to perceive as gospel. ... ... As for boogeyman stories...reality is scarier to the aware & those that ... question the reality they are led to believe,yet the truth,or the possibility that their ’world’ may not be what it has appeared to be, can be too frightning ... for many to deal w ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?30 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,707

I know, I learned that in College. But, I don’t have the gold and don’t make the rules. And, if you worry yourself over all that you cannot change, you won’t have a happy life. People love the thrill of being a part of something that seems taboo. ... ... "If one thinks this country is better off after the last 7 years on a local and world wide basis, then I’d love to hear where,how and why?" ... ... You and me both, because it isn’t. ... ... [End]

I never let my schooling get in the way of my education~Twain31 by detour 6 year 7,599

That was one very interesting school... ... ... I guess my alternative school that I attended taught me different views. ... ... I pity those that feel they are powerless,helpless and who can make no contribution for the overall good. The people that always consider themselves victims. Sounds 12 steppy to me. Not that that is wrong, just not for me to ever be powerless or to ever fall victim,knowingly or willingly. Sorry, I just can’t give in ... my spirit, my being, my conscience, my morality , my upbringing won’t allow it. ... ... Being ”a part of something that feels taboo is thrilling” is not the way ... [retrieve this message]

Re: I never let my schooling get in the way of my education~Twain32 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,843

yeah, the colleges are filled with those who want to get in and out and get the degree so they can go to work and buy a car. i feel as powerless as anyone else though. the older one gets, the more they learn to go with the flow and not worry about what they cannot control. ... ... I was raised to believe the government is corrupted by money and have their own best interests and those of corporations in mind, not ours. So, I don’t fall for all the good they say they are doing. But, I also was raised to know that the one with the gold makes the rules. ... ... We ... [retrieve this message]

Re: I never let my schooling get in the way of my education~Twain33 by detour 6 year 5,039

I truly hope that ’God’ grants you that... ... I think you either have it or you don’t. ... ... I find it degrading that the word ’power’ is ... not mentioned in that ’best way to live’. Wonder ... who power WAS meant for in that ’way to live’? ... ... However, not everyone feels powerless, otherwise no change ... would ever happen and things would get worse. That powerless ... feeling is not your fault though. It was the way WE have been ... ’raised’. ... ... We are very different on our approach and I respect yours. ... ... The way I was ’raised’ and the way I govern my life are TWO different ... things. ... ... I love having my own ... [retrieve this message]

Re: I never let my schooling get in the way of my education~Twain34 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,753

Well, powerless in the sense that I am not going to change the way drs give drugs like candy and use chemo and radiation for cancer..and things like that. But I accept that, so it is not stressful. It is only stressful when the drs get a hold of someone I love and do it to them; but I have to let that go, too, because neither drs nor the patient will listen. I do give it the old college try, though with my loved ones, just as I recently did with my cousin. it was to no avail. he decided the drs were right and he is now dying ... [retrieve this message]

Re: I never let my schooling get in the way of my education~Twain35 by detour 6 year 4,911

Fights that may never be truly won are not truly fought. ... ... It doesn’t have to be a fight or war,though...that is another thing ... we were ’raised’ on. ... ... Just one individual allieviating prescribed drugs from their ... routine and passing that way of life on to their children is a start. Their ... children will raise their children the same, and so on and so on...a positive ... thought goes on forever...at least in my universe. ... ... Change rarely happens overnight and there are sacrifices and many if not most times no immediate rewards. Parable to doing a kind act and never hearing, ’thanks’, we still ... [retrieve this message]

Re: I never let my schooling get in the way of my education~Twain36 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,972

Yes, I agree, but instead what most are passing on to their children are Wal*Mart, donuts, cell phones, pop, and McDonald’s. The media does quite a number on people. That is why I say there will likely always be the majority doing all this stuff and a small minority of us paying exhorbant prices for organic food and such. ... ... Yes, it is always a tear-jerker for me when I see kids taking on the values of their parents (when they are good values). I share most of my parent’s ideals and am lucky they had them. ... ... I Am Your Child ... ... Wherever you go, you take me, too... ... ... ”Real ... [retrieve this message]

The truth about Walt Disney37 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 5,420

... Bosses from Hell ... ... Manipulative, abusive, grandiose -- and downright crooked -- executives who have strutted their way across the stage of American business. ... ... ... ... ... The man behind the Mouse was a suspicious control freak -- a dictatorial boss who underpaid his workers, clashed with labor organizing efforts, made anti-Semitic smears about the other Hollywood studio heads, and wouldn’t give due recognition to Mickey’s real creator, animator Ub Iwerks, who was supposedly his oldest friend. He also spied prodigiously for J. Edgar Hoover and cooperated with Senator Joseph McCarthy in t ... [retrieve this message]

definitely a 'college' comeback! n/t38 by detour 6 year 4,622

c: [End]
- Hey!39 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,780
  
  I resemble that remark! ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?40 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 5,008

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?

/104 41 by Dquixote1217 6 year 4,784

You sure did open up a can of poop-worms with that post! Or almost did anyway. ... ... I thought I was supposed to be the controversial one? ... ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?42 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,745

The owner or mods took a couple threads and cross-posted them with debate rooms. We are not allowed to cross-post debate and support rooms..but, they will do it ever once in a while. Of course I think of the news forum as neutral, neither debate or support, so maybe they think of it that way too, and that is why they combine it with debate sometimes. I don’t know. ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?43 by Zoebess 6 year 4,765

Ah, be sweet to Luella~ :) ... There are many of us who look at the coincidences ... of events and have the uncommon sense to begin to ... build a picture of the real agenda behind them. ... ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coincidence ... ... For example, imagine the coincidence of ... Larry Silverstein saying they would have to ... ”pull” building 7 on 9-11 and the building ... falling down into its footprint when it never ... was even hit by a plane. The government would ... have us believe that it just happened sort of ... magically. Coincidentally, all the wreckage and ... debris of the damage was sent to China post-haste ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?44 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,704

HEY, did you just edit that coincidence definition? I saw 9/11 on it! [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?45 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,756

One would have to live in some fantasy world to believe that Bush is going to kill massive innocent people by having the towers blown up. ... ... Even more absurd is Bush working with the terrorists to fly the planes into them. Because that is what he would have to do. ... ... I suppose there are those who say planes never hit the towers; I guess it was all my imagination when I saw it on the tv shortly after it happened. ... [End]

Re: truthseeking46 by Zoebess 6 year 5,029

You know, for someone who has complained that ... others have not treated you supportively, ... and for posting in a *support* forum, you ... are really being passively aggressive in defending ... your belief, and inferring that I am fantasying ... that people in power are capable of heinous ... acts on their populace. ... ... I am not going to debate my opinion in a *support* ... forum beyond this post. I challenge you to prove ... that I am fantasizing and that a significant number ... of people, globally, who also are of the mind that ... something with a huge stink went down, are also ... logically deficient. ... ... I, for one ... [retrieve this message]

Re: truthseeking47 by detour 6 year 4,687

Aloha Zoe... ... ... Save your breath for the cause!!!!!! ... ... ... Lava ya! ... Detour [End]

Re: truthseeking48 by Zoebess 6 year 4,891

... ... ... Ah D... ... ... just calling them as I see them...want a nice ... cup of tea? We would have a great discussion... ... ... Thanks for your support~! ... ... blessings, ... Zoe ... ... -_- ... ... [End]

Re: truthseeking49 by detour 6 year 4,860

In the interim ,I’ll bite my lip and save my breath. ... ... detour ... ... [End]

Re: truthseeking50 by Zoebess 6 year 4,847

... ... ... ... me too... [End]

Truthseeking51 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,812

... [End]

Re: Debunking 9/11 Myths52 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,719

"By the way, I don’t know any Conspiracy Experts on Curezone that you claim are putting their reputations on the line, but here is a very good book by an Expert:" ... ... I believe she meant Conspiracy Experts everywhere, not just in Curezone. Although I would classify DQ as a Conspiracy Expert. ... ... About the book..... Sounds like a bunch of propaganda tripe to me. However, I do agree with one thing it says. ... ... "Popular Mechanics itself was accused of being part of the conspiracy to support the administration." ... ... I believe this is the case. ... ... By t ... [retrieve this message]

Debunking 9/11 Myths53 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,813

On this subject, there are two types of people: ... ... 1. Those who believe the US was somehow involved in the terrorist attack on 9/11 ... ... 2. Those who don’t ... ... I am the latter ... [End]

Ah, now I know why you are a part of this thread..54 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,910

You love conspiracy debate. I thought, what is she doing here. But now I know. Like I said, everyone needs a hobby. ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=962689#i ... ... ... [End]

truthseeking55 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,769

... [End]

Debunking 9/11 Myths56 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 5,107

Re: truthseeking57 by Zoebess 6 year 4,813

You should be posting in debate forums, you have ... developed a knack for it.... [End]

Clean up your own backyard58 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 5,138

You were the first one who got mean about it. ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=962777#i ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: Clean up your own backyard59 by Zoebess 6 year 4,829

You *were* passively-aggressively debating in ... a support forum. Someone had to be the first ... one to tell you it was not appropriate... ... ... Yes, you were/are being a bully about it. ... No, I did not claim abuse and any other garbage ... whatever you mean by that. ... ... Obviously the Webmaster himself thought you ... were DEBATING and so moved the thread to where ... your posts would be more appropriate. ... ... As far as cleaning up my backyard...I did nothing ... I would not say or do again under the same circumstances. ... I also do not *launch* an attack at you, but defended ... my right to my opinion in a support f ... [retrieve this message]

Clean up your own backyard60 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,852

"Obviously the Webmaster himself thought you ... ... were DEBATING" ... ... No, he thought you were: ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=963330#i ... [End]

Re: Clean up your own backyard

/104 61 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,753

Torrie, please stop now. I am reading your posts throughout and you are insulting and out of line. While you accuse others of being demeaning it is you hurling insults towards everybody. Despite any material given for you to review you dismiss it and continue with the same replies. You are the one that began with you little barbs and I see it escalating into an ugly fight. Your replies to Zoebness are actually childish and frankly deserve no further response. [End]

Truthseeking62 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,788

... [End]

Re: Clean up your own backyard63 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,686

"Luella mind your own business, who cares what your opinion is. I happen to think you are nosey and controlling, but you don’t see me posting in a forum and saying that to you, do you?" ... ... LOL LOL LOL! You just did. ... ... Nope, you don’t have to swallow my opinion at all. You can continue to believe the government and all those that will defend their propaganda. You will still be defending them after you have a RFID chip inserted in your right hand. ... ... Luella ... [End]

Clean up your own backyard64 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,815

The only question about 9/11 I have is why didn’t we better protect ourselves. ... ... The only chip that goes in my hand is this: ... ... [End]

Re: Clean up your own backyard65 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,924

There were two kinds of Jews during the atrocity of the Third Reich: ... ... 1. The vast majority who did not believe that millions of their fellow citizens were being rounded up and led to death camps, even as they saw it happening right under their noses and even all the way to the gas chamber and up until the cyanide pellets dropped from the ceiling. . and ... ... 2. The small minority who took measures to escape the evil plot. ... ... Guess which ones avoided having their freedoms and lives taken away?. ... ... And btw, you DO know that it is historical fact that the B ... [retrieve this message]

Wow66 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,721

You really are into Conspiracy Theory aren’t you. ... ... Why don’t you write a letter to President Bush and let him know you are concerned his family has Nazi connections. What exactly does that mean, anyway, that Bush is Hitler? He won’t be in office long enough to worry about it. Elections are coming up. ... [End]

Re: Wow67 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,856

Torrie. You are repeating yourself. This is getting boring. Yawn. ... ... Luella ... [End]
- Haters are filler68 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,657

And, that has to do with...69 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,669

... [End]

Re: Revising Posts70 by Zoebess 6 year 4,736

Ah, I knew I was not wrong in thinking that ... derogatory statements were being made and then ... edited out by the poster...I saw the original ... post which was derogatory towards you and now ... that line has gone missing. There were more ... than a few edits I was noticing yesterday too ... but of course my asking about this was met ... by denial by Torrie. ... ... This is a despicable practice [imho] of revising ... posts to make it appear that responses are not ... appropriate. While revising a post is certainly ... allowed, it is common courtesy to put the word ... [edited] in the subject line. ... ... No matter, now that w ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Revising Posts71 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,728

Unfortunately some people resort to these tacticts as they try to mimic the chameleon. Would you say this is dishonest, is it cheating? And what does it say about the character of a person who does this? At the very least it is lack of common courtesy. ... ... Hugs, ... ... Luella ... [End]

Clean up your own backyard72 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,702

No, it is still there, it is quoted on her post. ... [End]

Re: At least I am not a Jew basher73 by Zoebess 6 year 4,808

Who are you accusing of being a Jew Basher?? ... ... I am not whining either, just observing the ... subtrefuge you are willing to stoop to in ... order to make yourself appear not to be the ... bully you are. ... ... be well, ... Zoe ... ... -_- [End]

Clean up your own backyard74 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,910

Poppycock. And, I have seen some of your posts on debate forums, so that is like the pot calling the kettle black. I don’t post in them unless the moderator moves the thread..as in this case. ... ... This post is anti-semite and that is why it was moved: ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=962191#i ... [End]

Re: At least I am not a Jew basher75 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,903

Of course you and everybody else believes in the holocaust NOW. Because it has already happened. It’s kind of hard to deny since after the war ended that’s when the death camps full of dead bodies and walking skeletons were found. But while it was going on most people did not believe it. ... ... Here are two more links for you to read. ... ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAUQeHykXY ... ... This is the end. I’m out of here and will not respond further. This has gotten ugly. ... ... Luella ... [End]

Again, I ask..that has to do with..76 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,613

... ... [End]

Good Book77 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,820

Clean up your own backyard78 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,876

That was rude and nasty. [End]

Re: truthseeking79 by Zoebess 6 year 4,824

Rude and nasty?? Hardly~~ ... ... Rude and nasty was you posting ... in retort to one of Tony’s posts ... in a derogatory fashion, putting ... a picture of soiled underwear in ... the response. That was disgusting ... and offensive. I did notice that ... the moderators or the Webmaster ... have cleaned up those posts which ... made me glad since it also was in ... a SUPPORT forum. ... ... I stand by my observations too... ... relative to your posts in Luella’s ... thread. ... ... blessings, ... Zoe ... ... -_- [End]

Clean up your own backyard80 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,869

Nothing was cleaned up by the webmaster. Luella’s post was simply moved to political, conspiracy theories and Terrorism debate forums. ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=962728#i ... ... I think you like to make a mountain out of a molehill ... ... ... [End]

Re: truthseeking

/104 81 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,767

Hello Zoe, ... ... I just want you to know that I received your message and I agree with you 100%. If you notice, I have been doing the same thing. ... ... Forgive me for not getting back to you sooner, I am running here and there, and my email was a bit behind. ... ... Hugs, ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: truthseeking82 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,747

I also received an email and I agree 100% as well. Thank you for taking the time. [End]

This needs to end83 by Dquixote1217 6 year 4,838

Actually given the rant you are on, I find it appropriate and if anything, restrained. Probably restrained for the same reason that many of us bite our tongue and tread softly when replying to you - first of all it is obvious to many of us how important this forum is for you to interact with other people and secondly, we never know what imagined slight might set you off on an endles string of posts that never end until you get the final post in and we stop. ... ... You really should stop. Forget about my posts - you are attacking two of the people I consider to be the most respecte ... [retrieve this message]

Re: It was moved84 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,779

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=962191#i ... ... It was moved to debate, so that is why people contined to post. ... [End]

Clean up your own backyard85 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,724

... 1. Bush, nor the Government of the US, blew up the Trade Centers or had anything to do wth it ... ... ... ... 2. Most every person believes this ... ... 3. No one has ever been able to prove otherwise ... ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: bullying86 by Zoebess 6 year 4,737

You know, I am not trying to convince YOU ... of anything. I do expect not to have to engage ... in debate in a support forum and I would hope ... that Spirit and I agree on that... ... ... Stop your bullying~~~~or take it to the debate ... forums.... ... ... Where the ’ell is a moderator when you need one?? ... ... be well, ... Zoe ... ... -_- [End]

Clean up your own backyard87 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,852

This Jew thread was not started by me. ... ... No one bullied you: ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=962777#i ... [End]

Re: bullying88 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,757

Bless your heart Zoe, I see we ARE in the debate forum. Sigh! Okay, let me get up to speed here. Hang on girlfriend, reinforcements just arrived. ... ... Hugs, ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?89 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,851

Torrie, ... ... I read Zoebess’s post and then I went and read the reason for her post. First of all, we all have opinions here. At the very least we need to respect each other’s views. I am rather new to these forums and in the short time I have been here I like to think I have made friends, you included. However, as you have just insulted Zoebess, I also felt that your posts last night were demeaning and I still have not figured out that Judge Judy cartoon. Maybe I need someone to explain it to me because I don’t understand it. Was that supposed to be a jo ... [retrieve this message]

Re: respect90 by Zoebess 6 year 4,780

... ... ... Respect is important in support forums~~thanks ... for pointing this out. ... ... Fortunately, for me, I have never been ridiculed ... for my views, well for the most part since I do ... consider the posts we are talking about rather ... inflammatory. For the most part, my mother worked ... in government and instilled in me a sense and need ... to speak up and support what I believe in. It has ... gotten me in trouble in that certainly my high ... school records were supposedly laced with reports ... of my political protest. For the most part, I do ... not care to fight with friends or family over my ... views and so ag ... [retrieve this message]

Clean up your own backyard91 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,830

Ditto [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?92 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,689

Judge Judy is self explanatory, don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining. ... ... If you do not want to debate people about 9/11, then don’t make posts about it. That’s all I can say. ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?93 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,702

The controversy all began with this news post about the North America Union. It was moved to debate, also: ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=961807 ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?94 by Ohfor07 6 year 4,755

While it is admirable that you went the extra mile to include the disclaimer with your comments, bear in mind that the term ”....is anti semetic...” itself is an intended misnomer, a red herring for creating division while also serving to dismiss a person or topic merely by mouthing a catch phrase that, as we speak, is a phrase that has historically avoided meaningful, adequate definition. In stead it is a loosley-defined idea that defines little other than a broad mind game intended to appeal to people’s feelings and sense of habit for speaking/feeling/reacting to open-ended enflamatory l ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?95 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,712

Absolutely. Two of my parents best friends are Jews. I am White. If someone hates Whites, I would find nothing they had to say interesting. ... ... Here is more info on Warburg: ... ... http://tinyurl.com/2bv6jp ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?96 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,732

Ohfor07, ... ... I will admit I was wrong and again, I apologize. I will also admit my ignorance as to jewish history and now you have taught me something brand new and I will take it under advisement. ... ... Hearing of the standown of the United States Air Force, I came upon the article and thought it a huge coincidence. I was also not aware of the source’s reputation, I had never heard of him. ... ... After posting, it was brought to my attention what I had done. That is when I went back and inserted the disclaimer as I in no way intended to offend anybody. And now I find ou ... [retrieve this message]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?97 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,779

... He wrote about only Jewish flights because he is anti-Jew. But, I can understand it was a mistake. Still, I don’t find what he has to say interesting. ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?98 by Ohfor07 6 year 4,673

Luella, I apologize for not being more clear. In the context you said it, you did nothing wrong as far as I am concerned; nothing for you to apologize for from my view :) ... ... Using a common disclaimer is just one of countless ways we’ve we’ve all been conditioned, knowingly and or not, to do something..... 9000 ways to Sunday (or Saturday, pun intended ;) ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?99 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,810

Thank you Ohfor07, that means a lot to me. And I see your point with regard to the generic disclaimer. ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?100 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 4,698

It was a simple oversight. The term Jew didn’t stand out. I understand that. But, the reason it ended up in debate is because after you found out he is an Anti-Semite, you did not take off the article. Instead, you said I know he is an anti-Semite, but it is an interesting view. Well, that is why it is here, anyway. ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?101 by rabbitears 6 year 4,826

Hi Luella~ ... ... I went to News... your post moved... oh my, what a ruckus you started with such as simple post! LOL (I haven’t read most of it, but WOW!) [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?102 by LuellaMay 6 year 4,792

Hi rabbitears, ... ... To my dismay, yes I did. I’m more careful with what I post now. LOL ... ... Hugs, ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: No Jewish Airline Flights on September 14th?103 by Celcius 6 year 4,707

LOLOL~ This is possibly the most naive string of posts I’ve ever read on the Conspiracy forum! With the exception of Zoe and 0hfor7 of course and a few others it sounded more like a high school lunch room chat! ... ... The trade center was of course imploded and by the Zionist Mossad!!! ... For example why was building number 7 found imploded in its own footprint? It was’nt hit by no 747 driven by some wild eyed crazed Arab!!! ... This string of post should be removed and placed in the ”My Favorite TV and Movie forum! ... ANTI SEMETIC??? Oh my god what a filthy word, so say the Zionist! Did you guys kno ... [retrieve this message]

The War of the Worlds: Part Deux?

/31 1 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 3,024 Politics Debate / Conspiracy / Terrorism

Call me a sheep, call me a follower, but I have been studying this all day, and at this time, I am believing the following statements by our Government. Now, I don’t know exactly what the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SSP) (what is being referred to by some as the North American Union) is, because it is written in a political fashion and it would take me a while to read and decipher it (if I can); But, I don’t want to jump to conclusions until I have given it a fair read. Now, I’m not saying the U.S. and the world is not headed in a downward s ... [retrieve this message]

Re: The War of the Worlds: Part Deux?2 by LuellaMay 6 year 2,867

Torrie did you read all of Dq’s post, together with the links? ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=961807#i ... ... ... ... And Chris’ post, together with all his links? ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=961935#i ... ... ... ... You have read the government’s side. Go through and read the other side. Look at the links. Then weigh the evidence. It is obvious that the government is blatantly lying to us. ... ... This is why we are up in arms, because as they lie to us, behind our backs they are indeed busy forming the North American Union. ... ... I am not going to give you examples, as you have t ... [retrieve this message]

Re: The War of the Worlds: Part Deux?3 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,787

Yes, I have been reading all day. That is exactly why I came to the conclusion and posted what I did. ... ... [End]
Re: The War of the Worlds: Part Deux?4 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,787

... Paranoia Will Destroy Ya... ... [End]

The War of the Worlds: Part Deux is a good analogy5 by Dquixote1217 6 year 2,973

Do you base your faith in the government website information on the govenment’s long history of honesty or in it’s record of putting the concerns of citizens above those with money and power? ... ... We ARE talking about the same people that told us Vioxx was safe until it had killed more of our citizens than lost their lives in the Viet Nam war? The same ones that lied about how much radioactive fallout there was from the above ground nuclear tests for decades? Who trotted out doctors and scientist to testify before Congress for four decades that vitamins had no health benefit ... [retrieve this message]

Re: The War of the Worlds: Part Deux is a good analogy6 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,843

These posts actually belong in the conspiracy debate forum. ... ... For me to believe that there probably is no real plan in action to combine the economies of the three nations, does not require I believe in the Government or what it tells me. It only requires that I believe those who speak of the North American Union, less. I am looking at it as a preponderance. ... ... ... [End]

Re: The War of the Worlds: Part Deux?7 by Johny Apple Bomb 6 year 2,806

I am believing the following statements by our Government. ... ... JAB ... ... That’s the problem. They aren’t our elected government. They have bi- passed our elected officials. ... ... The monopoly world corporations are trying to move goods through our country bi-passing our truckers. Moving Americans off of their land in order to construct huge toll highways for China and Mexico. What’s in it for us? ... ... ... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/american-independence-and-sovereignty/ ... [End]

Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie8 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 3,005

That is a far stretch from trucks to intertwined economies. ... ... I found this interesting: ... ... May 22, 2007 ... ... Ron Paul Boomlet To Implode In 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... ... ... I have watched with some amusement as centrist, liberal and uncategorizable blogs attempt to herald Ron Paul as a reasonable conservative, especially after his statement in the last debate that claimed that American foreign policy invited the 9/11 attacks. That blame-America, 18th-century isolationist thinking appeals to a large subset of the voting population, and for the past week we have been treated to an av ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie9 by LuellaMay 6 year 2,886

I am not going to give this article the time of day. Suffice it to say that it is only part of the smear campaign against Ron Paul. If they can’t find dirt on somebody they will make it up. ... ... The title itself shows the mentality of the person that wrote it. ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie10 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,750

I don’t know the guy, just thought the post was funny. All I have heard about Paul is that people think he thinks that 9/11 was an inside job. But, he says he doesn’t believe that. He has to have some smarts, he’s been a Congressman for 10 yrs. I think it is interesting how some say they don’t like Government or trust anything they say, but they like this Paul guy. He is Government, isn’t he? ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie11 by LuellaMay 6 year 2,858

The post is not funny Torrie. I am passionate about him and he is the only one who can save us. How I wish you could see this. ... ... By the way. I stand behind him in saying that 911 was an inside job. I stand behind him in everything he says. ... ... Luella ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie12 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,770

... Well, I don’t believe 9/11 was an ... inside job, and neither does Ron Paul, he says: ... ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie13 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,796

The only one? If he doesn’t make President, then what? We are doomed? ... [End]

It is only silly to those who do not know serious14 by Dquixote1217 6 year 4,399

No, it is deadly serious talk from one of the few who know what is going on in the world and who it is that really controls much of the world, including our country. The silly talk comes from the blind masses who have been lulled to sleep while their countr, their freedoms and their wealth have been stolen right from under their noses while they are entertained and fed an unreal reality one soundbite and planted news story at a time. You know, the ones the government keeps lying to and they KNOW they have been lied to, but keep believing the government is now telling the truth. ... [retrieve this message]

Re: It is only silly to those who do not know serious15 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,810

... ... ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie16 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,780

Wow..the only one I have that kind of blind faith in is Manilow. ... ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie17 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,776

A moderator stuck this thread in politics debate immediately after I posted it. ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie18 by Johny Apple Bomb 6 year 2,702

Who are you going to vote for Torrie? I will then tell you exactly what is wrong with them. [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie19 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,718

I feel we have no choice, but the election will come down to O’bama or Clinton on the democratic side, so I will vote for Clinton because she is experienced in the White House and female. We have always had male presidents, so females should have chances at it, too. It won’t matter what is wrong with her or him, those will be our choices at the polls. ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie20 by LuellaMay 6 year 2,748

... "I feel we have no choice, but the election will come down to O’bama and Clinton, so I will vote for Clinton because she is experienced in the White House and female. We have always had male presidents, so females should have chances at it, too. It won’t matter what is wrong with her or him, those will be our choices at the polls." ... ... LOL LOL LOL! Now that’s an intelligent decision! ... ... Luella ... ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie

/31 21 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,816

I was answering this question from Johnny Apple Bomb: ... ... "Who are you going to vote for Torrie? I will then tell you exactly what is wrong with them." ... ... Come election time, we will at least see O’bama or Clinton on one side. I used to write in Clyde Drexler when I was younger. ... ... ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie22 by Johny Apple Bomb 6 year 2,791

Democrats are almost exactly like Republicans except that they will increment your taxes up at every opportunity. They are also quite gutless when it comes to attacks on our country. ... ... I guess O’bama’s ( Osama heh heh) purpose is to get the ”We need to prove we love Muslims so they might not kill us liberal wimp vote”. ... ... Lets see.... Will the Clintons traitorous China nuclear atrocity be enough to stop your vote? ... ... ... http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/25139.shtml ... ... ... Need more? ... ... ... http://prorev.com/legacy.htm ... ... ... ... ... ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie23 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,761

"Democrats are almost exactly like Republicans except that they will increment your taxes up at every opportunity." ... ... That is exactly what my parents always taught me. ... ... Anyone can dig up crap on public figures. It’s funny how trusting everyone is of the media. They have got many hook line and sinker. People retrieve conspiracy theories from somewhere on the net. The one who wrote your post is newsmax media. If Before I believe it, I want to hear it directly from Bill Clinton’s mouth. There has always been government corruption ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie24 by Johny Apple Bomb 6 year 2,696

When I vote, I choose the lesser of the two evils. When the two main tickets say O’bama and Clinton, who are you going to vote for...Clyde Drexler? ... ... ... JAB ... ... That’s the whole problem. If you’re voting for the lesser of 2 evils you’re still voting for evil. That’s why we are in the position we are in today. So far I’m voting for Ron Paul. He will reinstate the Constitution. ... ... I refuse to vote for whoever the big corporations dump in the trough in front of me. [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie25 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,746

Well, you can do that, but people will pick either hillary or o’bama. that is just reality. ... ... when i say lesser of the two evils, that isn’t literal. i don’t believe hillary gets up every day and thinks how can i screw people over today. most of the gov’t officials you would have for friends if you were rich. most are actually viewed as nice people by their collegues. it’s just you live in and us and them society and that is why you think differently. you have capitalism to thank for that. it divides through disparity of wages via labor.&n ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie26 by Johny Apple Bomb 6 year 2,855

It looks like we have a lock step Democrat here. Finger in the wind Democrats it will be for Torrie. It is futile. [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie27 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,691

Wait ’til the election and see. It will be O’bama or Clinton. You can vote how you like, but one of the two will win it, and I believe that will be Hillary, provided she doesn’t say anything too outrageous between now and then. We have become a society with very sensitive ears lately. ... [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie28 by Johny Apple Bomb 6 year 2,877

O’bama is a Democrat along with Hillary, so it will be quite impossible for them both to be the the front runners. More likely one Democrat against one Republican. ... ... I’m voting for some other candidate like Ron Paul instead of 2 sides of the same evil coin. Both will be whores of the Drug companies and big business or they will be locked out of the election. Hillary will be for partial birth abortion but will fight to the death for a convicted murderer to be spared from execution. Democrats will increase taxes on the rich and poor. Republicans will embezzle from them. [End]

Re: Ron Paul is nuttier than Aunt Mabel's pecan pie29 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,720

oh yeah, sorry, i forgot they were both on the same ticket. i agree with your assessment [End]

Speaking of desserts, who was that anti-Paul fruitcake?30 by Dquixote1217 6 year 2,812

5-4-3-2-1? Looks more to me like 5-6-7-8-9-10. Paul’s popularity keeps rising across virtually all groups, And I have still never heard of Edward Morrisey the Minnesota transplant from Callifornia who would deign tell us what a true conservative is but who, like the painting on his website, appears to be out to sea. ... ... Is it just me, or does anyone else find it strange that the quoted column was published in May, and that, even though the media has done their best to ignore and marginalize Paul, no one has ever confronted him with such blarney? One has only to look at th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Speaking of desserts, who was that anti-Paul fruitcake?31 by AHarleyGyrl 6 year 2,711

Yeah, didn’t know anything about him when I posted it, but thought the aunt mabel’s pecan pie thing was funny. I learned he has been a Congressman for 10 years, so he is not just some yahoo grass roots character, wet behind the ears. He sounds reasonable in his interviews, all except for his North American Union beliefs...unless he knows something we don’t. I am wondering if he is going to be repremanded, since the US website says there is no plan whatsoever to combine nations and money...and he says there is. ... [End]

North American Union and Vchips - the horrifying truth hidden in plain s... by Dquixote1217 6 year 1,741

North American Union, drivers license hologram images, ameros, national ID cards, loss of health and other individual freedoms, implanted chips . . . this is what it is all about and it is reason to be very, very afraid: ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo&mode=related&search = ... ... Probably the most important film you will ever see, what we do about it will determine the fate of mankind. We can wake up and stop it while there is still time, or we will surely wake up to a nightmare and the time for sleeping grows shorter each day. I fear that itmay alrea ... [retrieve this message]

CIA Director Warns of New al-Qaida Attacks - is there a more sinister st... by Dquixote1217 6 year 1,028

When you read this, keep in mind the Presidential Directives signed by Bush that enable the Executive Branch to seize control of all government operations right down to the local sheriffs offices in the event of a "threat to national security" and that enable them to brand anyone who speaks out against homeland security measures as traitors. Note also my two highlighted areas. - DQ ... CIA Director Hayden Warns of New al-Qaida Attacks ... ... Friday Sept 7th ... ... NEW YORK -- In a rare public address CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden warned of new attacks by al-Qaida: ... ... "Our ... [retrieve this message]

Understand by #84596 6 year 1,084

that the powers that be, the ruling class, the ones who run this world do not care about you and could careless if you die or are at harm. Imagine the perspective of someone with to what would be to a normal person an unlimited sum of money. Someone who thinks poor is someone with a few measly million.They are the modern era’s kings and queens. The middle east wasn’t a bigger problem until we made it that way. It will be a growing problem for years to come. You have to develop a different world view and break away from what they have taught you. The cops are not your friends because to the ... [retrieve this message]

Mitchell Jessen firm one of CIA'soutsourced torturers by fruitarian 6 year 1,247

Democracynow.org and spokesmanreview.com have covered ... this. ... ... i won’t violate the rules by posting the article ... ... [End]

American Marine Has Something To Say

by John Cullison 6 year 3,893 Iraq War Debate / Politics D / Terrorism

I’m having the worst damn week of my whole damn life so I’m going to write this while I’m pissed off enough to do it right. ... ... I am SICK of all this %¤#&!§-people are writing about the Iraq war. I am abso-fucking-lutely sick to death of it. What the fuck do most of you know about it? You watch it on TV and read the commentaries in the newspaper or Newsweek or whatever god damn yuppie news rag you subscribe to and think you’re all such fucking experts that you can scream at each other like five year old about whether you’re right or not. Let me tell you something: unless you’ve been there, ... [retrieve this message]

Re: American Marine Has Something To Say by ubered 6 year 3,239

I agree with you on many of your points, many of them, but I do not agree with you on the fact that we need to pull out. ... ... I’m not claiming to be an expert and I’m not claiming to be wise, but I am using logic and what I see as reasoning. In truth, I’m a 16 year high school student in Texas. ... ... To start off, Bush is a dumbass. We shouldn’t be there, we fucked up their lives even more, and it’s best for us to pull out, but we can’t think of this in terms of us, we lost that right when the president and his infinite wisdom dicided to invade. ... ... Because if you take your car to a mechanic ... [retrieve this message]

Re: American Marine Has Something To Say by fast4success 6 year 2,528

you people need to grow up. ... ... if you don’t want to go to war and get killed, why the fuck do you become a marine? ... ... try becoming a teacher, an accountant, or a fucking telemarketer. ... ... ... moron. ... ... [End]

Re: American Marine Has Something To Say by simplify 6 year 2,974

John, are you sure you left the Marines because you got pregnant? I didn’t think that John’s could get pregnant. But, what the hell do I know. It seems more like to me that you left the Marines because you were trying to get pregnant but found out that there is no such thing as an a--hole baby. Keep trying and Good Luck. [End]

the man with no face by #54423 6 year 1,593 Iraq War Debate / Politics D / Terrorism

A soldier tells in his own words how the chain of command in Iraq compromised & degraded his own human dignity, and the recurring nightmares he suffers from because of it, ever since. ... ... ... An Iraq Interrogator’s Nightmare ... ... By Eric Fair ... Friday, February 9, 2007; A19 ... ... ... ... A man with no face stares at me from the corner of a room. He pleads for help, but I’m afraid to move. He begins to cry. It is a pitiful sound, and it sickens me. He screams, but as I awaken, I realize the screams are mine. ... ... That dream, along with a host of other nightmares, has plagued me since my return from Iraq ... [retrieve this message]

Sivan Kurzberg: one of the real terrorists? by #54423 6 year 2,831

Mossad movers and Israeli art students. What were these Israelis doing photographing the WTC on 9-11, if they did not know that the towers would collapse? And why did Paul Kurzberg fail a lie detector test, after refusing to take one for weeks? [End]

Terrorist have won the toss by White Tiger 6 year 1,406

CIA Prisons in E.U. by White Shark 7 year 1,383 Politics Debate / Terrorism

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/29/AR2005112901665.html ... ... U.S. Will Address E.U. Questions on CIA Prisons ... ... Body May Sanction Countries Involved ... ... ... ... By Glenn Kessler ... ... Washington Post Staff Writer ... ... Wednesday, November 30, 2005; A01 ... ... ... ... ... ... The Bush administration pledged yesterday to respond to a formal inquiry from the European Union over reports of covert CIA prisons for al Qaeda captives in Eastern Europe, acknowledging for the first time that the controversy over the secret prison system has upset European allies. ... ... British Foreign Secretary ... [retrieve this message]

Road to Guantanamo by #47569 7 year 1,018

Where is the Peace Train, sometimes I dont think there is one.... ... But there is.............somewhere.............. ... ... ... ... Part 1 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCUDFfBLRTU ... ... Part 2 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb5bT_1aVT4 ... ... Part 3 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofRbneN07hY ... ... Part 4 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofRbneN07hY ... ... Part 5 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWPIGaQOJos ... ... Part 6 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIqwmD9xj5o ... ... Part 7 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPQGwcInAUA ... ... Part 8 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oVcx8s7HsI ... ... Part 9 ... http://www.youtube.com/w ... [retrieve this message]

Just how much danger is America in??

by Healme 7 year 1,802

Will we be able to beat terrorism in America? We are trying to beat it abroad but can we beat it here? Will American intelligence fail us? Is it not important for us to have allies? [End]

Re: Just how much danger is America in?? by Celcius 7 year 1,704

... ... There are no foriegn terrorist in amerika as they would have you beleive ,but there is terrorism in amerika! We have found the enemy and it is us! [End]

Re: Just how much danger is America in?? by Healme 7 year 2,215

I agree about the second part but why do you not think there are terrorists ( foreign) among us? It just seems we’ve made enemies with most of the world. Is America so prideful they don’t think they need anyone? Hatred breeds war, and plenty hate us. ... [End]

A question for you ....

by Goldie 7 year 2,211 Politics Debate / Iraq War D / Terrorism

Imagine you live in USA. ... ... You are proud of being an American. ... ... Imagine there is another large country on the planet earth, bigger then USA, called United Great Empire (It is composed of countries that used to be called: China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Australia, Japan, Korea, Mexico + many smaller countries. ) ... ... UGE controls big part of Asia, whole Africa, Whole south America and most countries on the planet earth, and is far more powerful then USA, both economically and militarily. ... ... Dominant new religion in UGE is Islam. ... ... UGE controls United Nations. ... UGE controls World Banks. ... [retrieve this message]

Re: A question for you .... by Fungifactor8 7 year 2,131

You have reversed the view in an enlightening way. It is very difficult to seperate fact from fiction to get an accurate picture of what is atually going on. One wrestles with the elements of patriotism, right and wrong, whether you are being given an accurate picture, how slanted that picture is, what special interests are manipulating what, self preservation, who are really who, everyone putting their own self interest into their perspective, and in the end whether you and your children are safer. [End]

the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (being killed by... by #58095 7 year 1,254

Al-Qaida in Iraq and its allies said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as ”the worshipper of the cross,” saying ”you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, ... Afghanistan, ... Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose the ’jizya’ tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (being killed by) the sword.” ... ... Islam forbids drinking alcohol and requires non-Muslims to pay the ”jizya” tax, though those who convert are exempt. The tax, sometimes called a head tax, has not been imposed in Muslim na ... [retrieve this message]

Islam the religion of peace?

by #58095 7 year 2,033

By JOHN LEICESTER and OMAR SINAN, Associated Press Writers ... ... Al-Qaida joins Algerians against France ... ... PARIS - Al-Qaida has for the first time announced a union with an Algerian insurgent group that has designated France as an enemy, saying they will act together against French and American interests. ... ... The al-Qaida alliance with the Salafist Group for Call and Combat, known by its French initials GSPC. ... ... Al-Qaida’s No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri, announced the ”blessed union” in a video posted this week on the Internet to mark the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks in the United State ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Islam the religion of peace? by #30219 7 year 1,835

why would you post anything from Al Qaida on an Islam Forum? Where’s the connection? Are you trying to say that they stand for Islam? That’s a joke really. ... If you want to know Islam then you will not get to know it by examining the Muslims. You will also NOT know the bible by examining Christians. ... What the books teach and what people do, are two different things. ... ... If you create a car accident you can’t blame the car brand. [End]

Re: Misquoted verses are the main problem, after misguided people by #30275 7 year 1,825

Introduction ... ... In our time, we find it becoming more and more common for some people to misquote verses from the Qur’an, or narrations of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), in order to support their twisted presentation of Islam as a hostile and violent religion. The majority of these verses are either mistranslated, taken out of context, or misunderstood due to lack of basic knowledge. For example, Jihad is misunderstood by many people today as a “holy war”, hence, whenever it is praised in the Qur’an, it is seen in a negative light. Jihad in reality is a positive concept, not a n ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Misquoted verses are the main problem, after misguided people by #58095 7 year 1,851

Hi again #69242 ... ... Anyway you look at it or what you call it. Islam has always and is still killing people all over the world with its love. 9/11 was one of many islamic massacres and murders throughout the history of islam all over the world and will not stop. ... You can your so called religion of peace. What many see about islam looks like satanic evil with all the blood and gore islam leaves in its wake. :( [End]

Re: Misquoted verses are the main problem, after misguided people by #47569 7 year 1,748

We have to stand up for whats right and whats wrong. ... ... The religion of islam is very much taken out of context and people make big mistakes in interpreting things. ... ... The Ten Commandments sums it all up. [End]

Re: Misquoted verses are the main problem, after misguided people by #30275 7 year 1,879

well, all I can say is ... ... so sorry you feel that way. ... People ruin religion ... ... sorry is all I can be ... it breaks my heart when people hurt other people ... ... thats about it [End]

Re: Misquoted verses are the main problem, after misguided people by Healme 7 year 1,797

I read the link provided for the real meaning but the real meaning still doesn’t sound good to me it can be too easily misconstrude which is what it seems is happening with the overboard or forcefulness the religion seems to attract. I can see why some people would think to take it to the extreme by the wording as our thinking is in the modern day. There is a feeling in the words spoken that lead you in teter totting between the extreme and being neutral. This is what I felt as I read it. Not trying to disregard what you are saying or this site but just being honest as how it came across t ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Misquoted verses are the main problem, after misguided people by #64732 7 year 2,019

I would call it misguided verses are the main problem of misguided people. [End]

No bravery by #69242 7 year 1,013

terrorists are cowards. ... [End]

It was New Year’s Eve in northern Lebanon and death was in the air

by white tiger 7 year 1,969

It was New Year’s Eve in northern Lebanon and death was in the air. As the year 2000 dawned, a horrible plot was under way that would forever mark this place. ... ... It is a rich agricultural area, between the Mediterranean and a range of hills on the horizon, where olives, citrus fruits and vegetables are grown. The rich olive oil produced here is famous for its quality. ... ... In the village of Kfar-Habou Jean, a Baptist layman, and his wife, Sarah—five months pregnant with their first child—were returning home where Sarah’s mother, Selwah, waited for them. ... ... ... Above Jean talks about the night ... [retrieve this message]

Re: It was New Year’s Eve in northern Lebanon and death was in the air by #69242 7 year 1,873

Yep its you Klyd, I love testimonials too can you add some more of those? [End]
- Re: It was New Year’s Eve in northern Lebanon and death was in the air by Lapis 7 year 1,864
  
  Yep its you Klyd, I love testimonials too can you add some more of those? [End]
- Re: It was New Year’s Eve in northern Lebanon and death was in the air by white tiger 7 year 1,765
  
  Hi number #30275 ... ... Why are you calling me klyd???????? ... ... Should I call you skeeter? ... ... If you really must know, my name is charles ... [End]
  - Re: It was New Year’s Eve in northern Lebanon and death was in the air by #69242 7 year 1,794
    
    Now that reminds me of ”little House on the Prairie” ... ... Thats a much better thought. ... ... Now its time for some organic rice milk. ... ... Cheers [End]

But if only Israel freed from prison such people as Kuntar? by white tiger 7 year 1,069

But if only Israel freed from prison such people as Kuntar, who killed a man and smashed his four-year-old daughter’s head against a rock (did he do that after, or before, he killed the father) and then the mother, frantically hiding from him, and trying to stifle the cries of her baby, accidentally smothered that baby to death -- it is this person, not executed by the Israelis (what does that tell us about Israel?) but merely sentenced to imprisonment, who is among those whose ”liberation” is demanded by Hezbollah, and by its leader, the Nazi Nasrallah (there is noting Nasrallah has expre ... [retrieve this message]

"War with Islamic terrorists" -- interview with Father Benedict -- Serbia by white tiger 7 year 1,450

”War with Islamic terrorists” -- interview with Father Benedict ... ... Mary Mostert Mary Mostert ... August 12, 2006 ... ... ... On August 10th, as the news broke that a group of Islamic terrorists were plotting to blow up some more American airliners, President George W. Bush stepped to the microphone in Austin Straubel International Airport in Green Bay, Wisconsin and stated: ”The recent arrests that our fellow citizens are now learning about are a stark reminder that this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation.” He the ... [retrieve this message]

What are the deep roots to terrorism?

by larrywhitsitt 8 year 2,240

People can only take so much abuse then they blow up! I would like to know the deep roots to why the twin towers were blown of the moslem world. If ordinary people knew the real reason for terrorism the government could work on neutralizing it. Does anyone have the hidden secrets ordinary people in the U.S. don’t know? [End]

Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? by silentnomore 8 year 1,835

The world today is full of trouble and there are people who are taking advantage of it. I am a Christian so I tend to go to the Bible for answers. It has them and the what Christ called ”the mystery of iniquity” is alive and well today! There is a force; a cabal; of people who want to take over the world and have a One World government - the successors of ancient Babylon. The government today is rapidly approaching the time when, like ancient Babylon, a human life is not even as important as a brick! Can you doubt that when the see what has been done to the people of the south who are s ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? by propolis 8 year 1,856

”an ungodly, unmerciful foe of all mankind who have threatened to wipe out genetic Israel ” ... ... What does that mean? [End]
Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? by anonymousjane_01 8 year 1,866

”who have threatened to wipe out genetic Israel (all Adam ”he who blushes red in the face” are the White, Christian people.” ... ... What does that mean? [End]

Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? by Spikyrob 8 year 2,790

”We are being ruled by the forces of anti-Christ; an ungodly, unmerciful foe of all mankind who have threatened to wipe out genetic Israel (all Adam ”he who blushes red in the face” are the White, Christian people.” ... ... Are you livin in the 1950’s? There’s probably more black christians now than white or are they unholy? ... ... If Adam and Eve were the first humans - portrayed as white - then our eldest Ancestors were incestuous, which means that everybody is a distant relative of everybody else and it’s probably illegal or immoral to ever have sex again. ... ... The bible makes so much sense. ... ... It ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? by white tiger 7 year 1,797

What justifies it? ... Muslims in Jordan; blowing up hotels; killing foreigners. ... Muslims in Iraq; kidnapping journalists, aid workers, foreign contractors and beheading them ... Muslims in Delhi,India, blowing up markets, 100’s dead and injured ... Muslims in Bali, blowing up night clubs, kill 400 ... Muslims in England, blow up subway, 52 killed, 300 wounded ... Muslims in Spain, blow up trains, 200 killed ... Muslims in Russia; attack school in Beslan, 350 children killed, in Moscow, 118 hostages killed in theater takeover ... Muslims in USA; 9/11 attack kills 3000 people ... Muslims in Australia; gang rapes o ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? RRR by Howit 7 year 1,939

I’m posting this from another forum, but it’s just as applicable regarding what’s written above. ... ... Wow, what vile vile racist stuff. I’m presuming the author of this piece is from a christian background and white (as I am) Well I doubt he’d personally feel the need to stand up and loudly fiercely and continuously denounce the deeds of Hitler, who was also christian and white. Most muslims have as little in common with the suicide bombers as I have (and I hope Mr Pilot has) with Hitler. Why should ordinary muslims have to in any way take responsibility or apologise for the deeds of the few ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? by Healme 7 year 1,745

Wow is this a list you have been keeping up with? Sounds like the Muslims want to rule the world with their religion by force. I’ve been so tired of hearing about Muslims and those radical Islamic ones. Nothing ever good comes out of it only bloodshed and pain. I’ve heard on several different occasions muslims on TV ( talk shows and such) saying they don’t have anything to do with the acts of the terrorist but they still end of debating in favor for them at times by saying what we here in america are doing wrong in regards to their religion and I’ve seen some on TV protesting their hate fo ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? by #47569 7 year 1,848

healme, ... ... its ”protrayed” as a forceful religion. Just as natural healing is ”protrayed” as dangerous. ... A lot of people make assumptions and there is a great deal of misinformation about islam. ... Islam is really very simple, it is judaism, christianity and other religions rolled into one. Quran being the revelation by the same All Powerful Lord of the Universes and Worlds, just as the other first revelations. ... Forceful is what the crusades were, forceful is what occupation is, forceful is the atomic bomb, etc. ... I fully agree that terrorism no matter who commits it is fully evil and punisha ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What are the deep roots to terrorism? by Healme 7 year 1,672

TOday news muslims delayed at airport. Suspious using anti american remarks. THis is what I am talking about. I can’t help it that bothers me. I know they are not all like that okay but you have to watch out because of this very thing. [End]

Apparently no one knows.... by Raynbo 7 year 1,883

judging from these answers. [End]

al-CIA-duh by anunnaki 9 year 1,120

al - Central Intelligence Dept - duh ... ... Also mixed in with MI5/6 & Mossad [End]

"Terrorism" by barcode 9 year 1,093

I feel very sorry for anyone living under the Bush cartel. ... ... The tip-of-the-tip of the iceburg. I’m in Sydney, and have spent 500 hours of research on ypur ””president”” and his connections, especially with the 911 evidence. How much time have you spent on your OWN investigations? ... ... Cheers ... ... http://www.newsgateway.ca/by_topic_9_11.htm ... http://www.tbtmradio.com/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040606205339801 ... http://physics911.org/net/index.php ... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/torture.html ... http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ ... [End]

Peace to the families of the 9/11 victims

by hamm 9 year 1,669

My prayers go out to the families of the victims who died in the 9/11 incident. For the ones who died in the plane crashes, the ones inside of the twin towers, and the emergency rescuers who died doing the process above and beyond their call of duty doing that time, three years ago today. ... ... May God continue to give you peace at this time. Blessings to you all in the name of Christ Jesus. ... [End]

Re: Peace to the families of the 9/11 victims by #69242 9 year 1,612

IN the name of GOD almighty- alone- give comfort to the families and let justice be served. ... Only cowards kill innocent people. [End]

Re: Peace to the families of the 9/11 victims by Grog 9 year 1,798

Yes it is September Eleventh ! Those who died in the Twin Towers should be honored and memorialised for falling victims to such an unforgivable atrocitiy! The survivors and family members should be compensated and comforted in as many ways as possible! Grog [End]

External funding for religious shrines

by Karlin 9 year 1,618

... ... I just read about some Muslim mosques in Canada where the funding is coming from Saudia Arabia. There is concern that there are fundamentalists advocating an al-Queda agenda behind this money. Extremist and militant views are being imported with this funding. ... ... ... Terrorism can start anywhere due to money coming from foriegn places to an immigrant community, money with a message and a political agenda. ... ... HERE is one curious example: ... ... External funding for religious shrines was needed due to the sparse community of recent immigrants. Resources were not plentyfull as th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: External funding for religious shrines by rotgut 9 year 1,677

I’m not aware of the pretext for your anecdote, but are you accusing the church of intentionally killing native Canadians? You see, intent actually matters when it comes to murder. [End]

Re: External funding for religious shrines by Karlin 8 year 1,550

Actual, Real, focused intent, yes, thats what happened. ... ... The Church WANTED the Natives , under control, afraid, powerless - and sure, if that helps, make them dead. ... This was a directive from the politicians , with the Church being the agents who would carry out the deed. ... ... Support never seems to come without strings, and the Church was well funded. The congregation thought of natives as heathens , whose death or murder could mean no more than an animal’s death. ... ... The Church leaders went so far as to say that ”if the people wo are exposed to these blankets don’t die ... [retrieve this message]

Re: External funding for religious shrines by krupaclassy 8 year 1,660

To add to your last line, it would be nice to see persons doing evil to just say that they did it, not justify it in another entity’s name. (religion, government, or family). Evil is evil, made by those who did it. [End]

What is Terrorism?

by POW 9 year 2,145

Definitions of Terrorism: ... ... Terrorism: Any act including, but not limited to, the use of force or violence and/or threat thereof of any person or group(s) of persons whether acting alone or on behalf of, or in connection with, any organisation(s) or government(s) committed for political, religions, ideological or similar purposes, including the intention to influence any government and/or to put the public or any section of the public in fear. ... ... Terrorism: Acts of murder and destruction deliberately directed against civilians or military in non-military situations. ... ... Terrorism: As def ... [retrieve this message]

What organisation commited the largest terrorist acts? by POW 9 year 2,027

What organisation commited the largest terrorist acts in the history? ... ... If you don’t know the answer to this question, look at my reply. ... ... If you know, place your reply, and then check what I wrote. ... ... POW [End]

Re: What organisation commited the largest terrorist acts? by POW 9 year 2,143

If your answer was Al Qaeda, you are wrong. ... ... The correct answer is USA. ... ... The estimated population of Hiroshima in 1945 was 350,000 ... Majority was dead by 1950. ... ... On August 6th 1945, the Enola Gay, a USA bomber, dropped a bomb called ”Little Boy” on Hiroshima. For extracts from the plane’s flight log - click here: http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/enola_gay_and_hiroshima.htm ... 80,000 people were killed instantly ... Out of the city’s 55 hospitals, only 3 were usable after the blast. ... 90% of all doctors and nurses in Hiroshima were killed or injured ... Radiation claimed many more lives a ... [retrieve this message]

Has USA ever been doing any Terrorism? by POW 9 year 1,985

Has USA ever been doing any Terrorism recently? ... ... The greatest acts of terrorism are not committed by furtive gangs of masked desperados in foreign lands. The most horrific acts of terrorism in world history have always been committed by governments and their militaries. ... ... The government of the United States of America have committed massive acts of international terrorism and brutal genocide — from 1899 to the present day. ... ... The Nuremberg war-crimes trial was a monumental hypocrisy, of course. In terms of sheer numbers of civilian people murdered, America committed the most massive w ... [retrieve this message]

Well said POW by Grog 9 year 1,970

Terror should be defined by the victims of terror! Those who hear the sounds of fighter jets and bombers, men women and children who huddle in great fear while their so called liberators indescriminately bomb villages towns and cities! ... A survivor of a suicide bombing staring into the face of their dead mother ! An innocent farmer trying to protect his land as tanks rolls over his crops and home and him if he stands in the way! The surviving victims of the Twin Tower atrocity! The chidren at the Karesh home in Waco! ... There is plenty of blame to go around terrorism should never be suppo ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Has USA ever been doing any Terrorism? by rotgut 9 year 2,111

Dude your are crazy. Get help. I don’t even no where to begin, your comments are so flagrantly lacking historical context and objectivity. Your basically hardcore anti-American, so get it off your chest and admit it; you hate America. ... ... First and foremost, let’s get one thing straight. GERMANY AND JAPAN STARTED WORLD WAR II!!! ... ... The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were horrible, I agree. I would also agree that they set an unforgivable precedent that no body could have foreseen. I believe that the development of nulcear weapons is the single most catastrophic failing of human ci ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Has USA ever been doing any Terrorism? by #87118 6 year 1,664

You seriously need to watch ... ... ”The War on democracy” by John Pilger ... ... He’s a famous Australian journalist with an outstanding reputation - he’s produced articles for many of the wests leading newspapers. ... ... youtube or Google search [End]

Was it Americans or foreigners that are using the USA to do Terrorist ac... by #28674 9 year 1,952

Has anyone researched the many different cells that are allowed to flourish in the USA ?? How can this be stopped with out infringing on civil liberties?? USA needs help - no doubt about that ..... ... ... Looking forward for a change not in the past for blame that never helped anyone but it does explain what we should NOT do. ... ... Thanks for your opinions as always [End]

Re: What is Terrorism? by superduper 9 year 1,948

Terrorism goes back a long way. ... How about Firetone and Goodyear and the natives of south america in the rubber plantations, in the early part of the last century. ... super [End]

Re: What is Terrorism? by #51506 8 year 1,890

... Terrorism is whatever the jews want to call it. Terrorism is whatever the jews want to do to gain power over the hated Christians. HR2662 will be the start of terrorism against Christians. The ADL called for this and they are part of the ruling power of true terrorism. [End]

What do you think about George Bush and Terrorism?

by POW 9 year 1,840

Do you think that world (and USA) is a safer place (less chances for terrorist attacks) since Bush attacked Afghanistan and Iraq? ... ... Or do you think that what he did, only supported international terrorism? ... ... Do you think that there are more terrorist today then 2000 ? [End]

Re: What do you think about George Bush and Terrorism? by rotgut 9 year 1,832

In a word, yes, I feel safer now that we’re no longer neutral in the war on terror. I don’t know if you can ever be 100% safe from terrorism in a country that is free. However, at the very least we’ve proven that the US will not sit idly by while terrorists and their sponsoring countries plot the murder of innocent people. ... ... The degree to which the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have made us safer is tough to tell, because their high minded goals work on many different levels (changing ideologies, introducing freedom and democracy, getting middle east countries to cure the endemic terroris ... [retrieve this message]

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Re: N O T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!n/p by rotgut 9 year 1,829

That passess as intellectual debate? What’s your answer genius? [End]

Re: N O T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!n/p by Johnny Vegas 9 year 1,761

It’ll also probably take kicking the living crap out of Iran, Syria and the Sudan. ... ... Nice to see the intelligencia hard at work. ... ... JV. [End]

Starting to get good... by rotgut 9 year 1,773

Sorry if the only part of my comment that registered with you was the last sentence. ... ... Let me rephrase. We’re probably going to engage Iran, Syria, et al, either through heavy sanctions or militarilly, before it’s all said and done. Feel better? ... ... Still waiting for the alternatives. Any suggestions? I know! ... Let’s run to all our good friends at the UN! They’ll know just what to do! Lord knows all those wonderful, brave countries are looking out for us. [End]

Re: What do you think about George Bush and Terrorism? by nanotechman 8 year 1,881

Hey shit for brains, since the dangerous moron stole the election and got into office, the whole world hates us more than ever even our allies. You say you feel safer now, which pill did you take the red or the blue? Do you really think 19 Muslim men can highjack four 757 commercial airplanes without any help, if you do I want whatever it is you are smoking because it must be strong shit man. Btw, none of them were from Iraq OR Afghanistan, they were practically all from Saudi Arabia. So ask yourself genious, why did we attack Iraq if they found no WOMD and the highjackers were from Saudi ... [retrieve this message]

Re: What do you think about George Bush and Terrorism? by silentnomore 8 year 1,741

I think that Bush receives alot of bribe money from IsraeLIE to follow their plan. They seem like the only nation of people who are being helped while America’s sons and daughters die! [End]

Who is responsible?

by POW 9 year 1,661

Question: ... ... To what degree are target countries responsible themselves for terrorism? Israel, USA, Russia, Spain, UK,.. ? ... ... Another Question: ... ... Why don’t we see terrorist activities in countries who’s foreign policy is less aggressive, like Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Luxembourg ... ... ... If it is true that terrorist are mainly attacking free countries, free world, why not attack Austria or Belgium? ... ... POW ... ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: Who is responsible? by rotgut 9 year 1,688

No offense, but that’s the stupidest question I’ve ever heard. Why don’t you ask the parents of the 330+ school children who were stripped and viciously murdered in Beslan who is responsible. There is NOTHING that ”target countries” could do to warrant any act of terrorism, whether it’s blowing up buses in Israel or knocking down two of the biggest buildings in the world. Saying countries targeted by terrorism are in any way responsible for the subhuman acts perpetrated by these a-hole monsters is like saying a rape victim was asking for it for the way she dressed. ... ... Sweden, Denmark, S ... [retrieve this message]

. by #6879 9 year 1,533

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Don't have a cow~Dog by Grog 9 year 1,652

Why you freaking cant you handle other opinions? I suppose you feel you have a direct line to some truth, but it sounds pretty naive to be useful! Some think the truth lies on one side of the coin never bothering to turn it over, either from denial or fear! Those that believe the party line do seem to use the fear card a lot! Like Cheney ! It does seem to be working on some obsessive types! I have a feeling those are the same type who succumb to the justification for terror! Grog ... [End]

. by #6879 9 year 1,622

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- Grog was speaking to that rotgut redneck bushwhacker. by Johnny Vegas 9 year 1,580
  
  Grog was speaking to that rotgut redneck bushwhacker. [End]
  - Re: Grog was speaking to that rotgut redneck bushwhacker.affirmative!n/m by Grog 9 year 1,585
    
    Re: Grog was speaking to that rotgut redneck bushwhacker.affirmative!n/m [End]

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