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- Single amalgam filling - worth removal?
by Cheesus
12 days
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Sorry, wrong forum. Admins delete. Alternatively, post can be found here: ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2064179#i [End]
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- i need help!!amalgam fillings, mold, candida, parasites
by mariera
18 days
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My husband will take having all 8 amalgam fillings removed in a few weeks. Well the process starts in a few week. I’m very knowledgeable on these topics. We had the diet going just fine. After he has all fillings removed, I think I’ll wait about 2 months then start chelation. My question is during the 2 months period, can he do parasite and liver cleanse or should I just wait for the two months and started all detoxing? ... ... We need to move farward as soon as possible, because these problems are making our lives difficult. [End]
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- I got sicker after getting fillings removed
by #152618
5 mon
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Amalgam Debate
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About two years ago I had about 6 fillings taken out at a holistic dentist that seemed to be fairly good and followed proper procedures. My reason for wanting to do it was various health issues but mainly concern about mental health. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I was hospitalized for it about 5 times from 1997 to 2010. Then after getting the fillings out I was hospitalized 4 times in 2 years. Also my symptoms seem to occur with increased frequency as well as intensity. I have an apparent increase in frequency of candida and serious issues with sulfur intolerence. Having said t ...
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- Re: I got sicker after getting fillings removed
by dave505
5 mon
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Not a specialist but did he follow the exact procedure? ... dr.Huggins said something about the first tooth to be replaced should be positive (or negative) as electrical charge. ... ... did you have a chelation after? ... check dr.Huggins site for interviews and maybe you’ll find some ideas. ... ... good luck ... dave [End]
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- Re: I got sicker after getting fillings removed
by Histopathlab
5 mon
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It happens due to medicine used. [End]
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- Re: I got sicker after getting fillings removed
by befurther
5 mon
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What supporting nutrients and minerals did you take following removal? Do you take a selenium supplement? Use cilantro regularly? Chlorella? ... ... How about EFA’s? Be sure and get some organic Hemp seed oil or High quality fish oil. ... ... Vitamin C, Vitamin B complex, vitamin D...etc. Large Doses regularly. ... ... What were you Hospitalized for? Acting Bipolar? ... ... Be sure and take some serious Probiotics if you can afford it. ... [End]
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- Re: I got sicker after getting fillings removed
by dave505
5 mon
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Hi befurther, ... ... Could you tell some serious probiotics you were talking about? I’d be really interested as i’m in searching for new enzymes and new probiotics. ... ... thanks, ... dave [End]
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- Re: I got sicker after getting fillings removed
by emawtsn4002
5 mon
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... hello friend, ... i suggest you should go for a better treatment which will help you a lot for your problem. There are lots of videos on net which also help you...and you can also do meditation......... ... ..... ... [url=http://www.ezdia.com/epad/water-filter-reviews-information-water-filter-system/6864/] WATER FILTER REVIEWS AND INFORMATION [/url] ... [End]
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- Re: I got sicker after getting fillings removed
by florasol
5 mon
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Yes I do Emotional Clearing it really helps. ... I also want to answer the previous questions. Yes as far as I know he followed all procedures including going by the electrical charge. Thanks I will check out Huggins’ site. ... Yes medicine ( pharmacuticals) is not always helpful. But there are many things to consider. I am headed in the direction of holistic healing. ... I don’t remember what supplements I took after. I did not have anyone advising me that was not a service my dentist provided. Prior to having the fillings removed I was mega dosing on c (that was rough). I was leaning twords inf ...
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- Chemistry puzzle for you
by illysmanx
7 mon
556
Amalgam Debate
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Please tell me, what happens when: ... ... (RS)-6-(5-chloropyridin-2-yl)-7-oxo-6,7-dihydro-5H-pyrrolo[3,4-b]pyrazin-5-yl 4-methylpiperazine-1-carboxylate ... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zopiclone) ... ... Meets with the dental amalgam filling mix in the mouth? Am I seeing exactly what I think I’m seeing? A direct carbonation reaction between methane molecules and amalgam chemistry in a wealky alkiline soution in the mouth? ... ... I spat gray. ... ... Gray directly from my mouth. ... Thanks for replies, ... -illys [End]
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- European Commission Recommends Banning Mercury Fillings
by befurther
8 mon
738
Amalgam Debate
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Activist Post ... ... Just a few decades ago, it was completely common to go to the dentist with a cavity or two and leave with several silver-colored fillings. And while these fillings were frequently referred to as “silver,” dental professionals were referring to the color, and certainly not the contents. Those fillings are mercury, and they are highly toxic. Now, about half of American dentists are mercury-free and the general population is starting to take note on the dangers of the dental amalgam mercury fillings in their mouths. ... ... Mercury Fillings to be Banned Due ...
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- Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by raji1981
9 mon
2,974
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Few months back i posted about my wife’s Hair Loss. ... She used to have thick black hair. ... She has amalgam fillings from early 2000 and it never bothered ... her.. ... Couple of years back she had 3 composite fillings(1 at the back where she chews). ... After couple of months, she complained about Grey hair.I just ignored it..Then, afterwards Hair Loss started with lot of dandruff. ... Her Hair Loss is Weird..When she takes Iron..her Hair Loss decreases for few days and then increases. She takes a tablet like Vitamin C, her Hair Loss decreased for 3 weeks and immediately increases.. ... Me and my wife wer ...
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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You are so right about this. 5 years ago my dentist spilled an adhesive into my mouth. He aplied this with a syrenge instead of a microbrush. Some odd things happend when he did this; I believe the syringe was clogged, he put to much pressure on it and emptied the syringe into my mouth. The adhesives purpose is to glue the composite onto the tooth. Within a few days I had Morgellons symptoms. I still do, but not so severe anymore. Doctors and dentists are sticking their heads into the sand. Did my own research about these dental materials and it scared the crap out of me. Methyl acrylates, ...
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by Eric11
9 mon
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Please believe me that getting silver fillings out is extremely important. You don’t want toxic mercury leaking into your body every day of your life for the rest of your life. ... ... I went with ceramic fillings. They have worked fine. I was concerned about composites, so I spent the extra money for what is likely the best choice of a lot of bad options. ... ... It’s possible for anybody to have a bad reaction to any filling material, but mercury is hands-down the worst of them all. ... ... What we really need is to make fillings out of material which is the same or extremely similar to actual e ...
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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I’m sorry, but I can’t agree with you for 100 % . Silver/amalgam fillings are indeed toxic also, but you got to have about 10 of them before they can cause trouble( unless one’s allergic) Composite ( plastic) fillings leak much more and much easier then amalgams. Scienitst already working on safer materials but you know how it is with scienc’; it goes very slow. Ceramic fillings are glued with the same material/adhesive onto the tooth. If a dentist follow the proper protocols then it should be oke, but I have noticed that out of routine/time ( read money)saving they make ( stupid) mistakes. [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by raji1981
9 mon
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Once the composite fillings were placed..it screwed up everything. ... I had to replace amalgam fillings as every time she drinks ... coffee,drink cold drinks..her hair loss increases. ... It was not like this before.. ... I believe it is behaving as if she was taking Birth Control pills(similar effect). ... Not knowing..around 4 of her amalgam fillings were replaced with Composite fillings...There are 2 remaining that needs to be replaced.. ... Is Ceramic fillings safe?.. ... Please let me know. [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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Raji, If the dentist follows the proper protocol it will be safe. Ask him to use a rubberdam, this will protect you from chemicals and/or breaking tools. Unfortunatly there simply are no 100% safe materials to repear teeth. [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by raji1981
9 mon
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Thank you.. ... I know that my wife’s issue started with having composite fillings. ... She has around 7 composites and 2 amalgams. ... Are ceramic fillings safe. ... Can you please tell me the cost of ceramic filling ... [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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Ceramics are also harmful, but as I said before, proper protocol and rubberdam. I think your wifes dentist was to generous with the adhesive. A dental adhesive is 100% liquid and because of that sensitive for accidents. They are also volatile, so if the apply this with a syringe ( not proper protocol)it can easely clog. Ceramics and composites usely are applied with a syringe but they are a lot thicker then adhesives/sealants. I have hundreds of scientific documents posted at my website. My blog is written in Dutch but al the info is English. I am not sure if I have info there about ceram ...
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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I think ceramic is the best option. This is an abstract from a recent study. ... ... http://www.scientific.net/AMM.117-119.1156 ... ... This is just some scientific info about adhesives in orthodontics ( they all contain similar chemicals) ... I want to share because dentists and dental patients have to become aware of this.(imo) ... ... http://ejo.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/6/688.full [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by raji1981
9 mon
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Thank you. ... One more thing. ... Can we just remove all the composite fillings and test for 2 weeks to see if it’s causing the issue or not?. ... This will be temporary only. ... Can anyone suggest. [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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I can’t help/ advice you with this one, I’m sorry. But I know exactly what you mean. That thought crossed my mind a thousand times. But my fillings are on my front teeth...The worst of this is that dentists are not (well )familar with biocompatibility so try to explain something like this.... ... If she may do so, don’t do them all at once. I don’t know if you are familiar with Omar Amin? He says to do two at the same time and then wait two or three months for the other ones. Is she becomes in pain after removing them then here problems are definitly caused by her composites. She probably is ...
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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Raji, does your wife have burning sensations in her mouth? ( palate, inside cheeks, gums, tongue) ... Did her dentist made x-rays before/ after the composites? Some adhesives are radiopaque ( visible on x-ray ) I have a x-ray from my teeth ( orthopantomogram, x-ray from all teeth at once)I can see the adhesive on my x-ray. [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
2,310
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http://www.emaxhealth.com/11306/dental-resins-linked-mental-dysfunction-children [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by mostlysunny
9 mon
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You could try this test - http://www.ccrlab.com/what.html ... ... It supposedly can tell which materials you are bio-compatable with. ... ... I never had it done but it might be an option...? [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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Thank you for the link. Patient should definitly be tested before dentists/surgeons place one of these materials into ones mouth/ body. Thanks again. [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by liesbeth
9 mon
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http://youtu.be/5Yrbs6cV5kY ... ... This video shows how they fill a cavity with composite. The second syringe he use contain an adhesive. ( the glueueueue ) Several dentists told me that dentists never apply this material with a syringe but with a microbrush. The video tells me the opposite. These materials are volatile, so a syringe can easely clog. If they put to much pressure on a clogged syringe it can easely lead to accidents.( as in my case) Accidents lead to severe toxicity for a very very long time! They should take his license for his inaccurate work. I hope the little girl is oke....!!
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by azala
7 mon
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how come dentists haven’t found a fully natural replacement filling material? ... ... What about clay or natural rubber and a natural glue like pinesap as adhesive? [End]
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- Re: Please be careful with Composite Fillings
by dayminder23
64 days
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Honestly prevention is the best key to success. Anything you put in your mouth will have some sort of adverse reaction in some form(although most are so minor and insignificant science would consider them almost nothing.) If you have old restorations and aren’t having issues or new decay, don’t get them changed out just because. Your best bet for not having these problems ultimately comes down to us staying on top of our own hygiene regimens and not getting the cavities in the first place. If we fail we will most likely have to accept something else that may or may not have consequences. I ...
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- crowns
by newdestiny
16 mon
897
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Hi, ... I have crowns on my 4 front teeth. These crowns are metal in the back with a porcelain front. Do these crowns have the same mercury issue. [End]
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- Re: crowns
by joegrane
16 mon
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The concern is about amalgam which contains about 50% mercury. In rare cases there is amalgam under the crown. In the chelation groups we hear of occasional strange sfx that went away after a person found and removed the amalgam under a crown. [End]
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- Decayed amalgam filling
by ayesha300
16 mon
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does this mean the mercury is ingested if the amalgam is decayed? thanks [End]
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- help! I need a diet protocal before my amalgam removal
by dfowler1976
18 mon
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I am feeling totally lethargic, and sick. I grind on my amalgams, and my stupid f’ing dentist put 4 huge ones in right where I grind, I have a mouth guard but it’s painful and he has to adjust it. ... ... I know there are many things I shouldn’t do before removal, like diet restrictions. ... ... Please, help me, what should I eat, drink, and supplement with prior to removal? ... ... I heard sooothing chicken soup, water, low sugar, not too many fruit juices, not harsh green drinks, all of which I have been doing, and feeling worse! ... ... should I use N acetyl cystine prior to removal? or after? ... ... I have b ...
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- Some great videos about MERCURY AMALGAM
by SmokeAndMirror
22 mon
1,455
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MUST WATCH MERCURY AMALGAM VIDEOS: ... ... Amalgam fillings in your mouth are poisoning you ... ... BBC Panorama – Poison in the mouth ... ... Mercury Autism ... ... Quecksilber – The Strange Story of Dental Amalgams ... ... The Mercury Amalgam Conspiracy ... ... --- ... And much MORE HERE: ... NWO Survival Guide ... *recently updated with AWESOME artwork. ... --- ... ... [End]
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120 million exposed to more than daily safe dose of mercury
by mercury.exposure
24 mon
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On December 14 and 15, 2010, the FDA convened a scientific panel to re-examine the issue of mercury exposure from amalgam dental fillings. Two private foundations, assisted by IAOMT, have commissioned G. Mark Richardson, PhD, of SNC Lavallin, Ottawa, Canada, formerly of Health Canada, to provide the scientific panel and FDA regulators with a formal risk assessment using the latest information from the scientific literature. ... ... [End]
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- Mercury Poisoning Makes Birds Act Homosexual
by befurther
29 mon
2,480
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Male birds that eat mercury-contaminated food show ”surprising” homosexual behavior, scientists have found. ... ... In a recent experiment in captive white ibises, many of the males exposed to the metal chose other males as mates. ... ... These ”male-male pairs did everything that a heterosexual pair would do,” said study leader Peter Frederick, a wildlife ecologist at the University of Florida in Gainesville. ... ... ”They built their nest, copulated together, stayed together on a nest for a month, even though there were no eggs—they did the whole nine yards.” ... ... http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/ ...
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- Re: Mercury Poisoning Makes Birds Act Homosexual
by ameetur
28 mon
1,978
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I’m female, not a bird and have mercury amalagam fillings and have not become homosexual. ... ... Mercury is just not good, let’s face it. However, having no fillings at all and having bacteria make you really sick isn’t good either... [End]
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- Latest A.Cutler interview
by pawel110
3 year
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http://www.superhumanradio.com/super-human-radio-show/539-amalgam-fillings-the-silent-killer.html [End]
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- I replaced 8 amalgam fillings in 12 days
by JerryYogi
3 year
2,114
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Hello, ... ... My dentist replaced 8 amalgam fillings in 12 days, without nasal hood or the usual safety precautions. ... ... Do you think this will be dangerous for my health? ... ... Are there any people in this debate who also had removed their amalgam fillings in the past, without safety precautions? And did their health become worse (because of lot of inhaled mercury vapours)? ... ... Thank you very much [End]
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- Re: I replaced 8 amalgam fillings in 12 days
by fuggles
3 year
2,505
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why didnt you use a homeopathic / alternative dentist ... ... and secondly ... ... a regular dentist wont remove all the mercury ... ... they either remove about eighty per cent of the tooth filling, and replace it ... ... or put a white filling over a metal one ... ... [End]
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- help, i swallowed some amalgam
by JerryYogi
3 year
4,310
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Hi ... ... yesterday, while removing the amalgam from my teeth, i accidentally swallowed some water, which contains amalgam particles. Is it really dangerous? and is there anything i can do about this? ... ... Sincerely. ... ... J. [End]
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- Re: help, i swallowed some amalgam
by spudlydoo
3 year
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It is not really dangerous, but a quick elimination might be a good idea, if you know what I mean. ... ... spud [End]
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- Re: help, i swallowed some amalgam
by JerryYogi
3 year
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1. Do you mean that the amalgam swallowed is less poisonous than the vapours? ... ... 2. Quick elimination, you mean by enema? [End]
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- Re: help, i swallowed some amalgam
by spudlydoo
3 year
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It would depend on how big the pieces of amalgam were, and how old they are. If its just a few pieces of old amalgam, then you will be fine. ... ... By quick elimination, I mean have some extra fibre, maybe a few prunes or some prune juice, and you should pass any pieces within the next 24 hours. ... ... You can do an enema if you want to, but it is not necessary. ... ... spud [End]
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- Re: help, i swallowed some amalgam
by JerryYogi
3 year
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Hello, ... ... thank you very much for your prompt reply. I did a full enema 24 hours after removing the amalgam. I hope most of it is out now. ... ... But i wonder about one thing. You know most websites about amalgam are very much freaking out about mercury vapours. I’m sure i must have breathed some vapours also. But anyway swallowing this amalgam seems to me like a 1000 times worse than breathing those vapours or am i wrong? ... ... I would like to hear your opinion on this. ... ... And do you know about any trustable websites on amalgam? Most amalgam websites are really scary. ... ... Thank you very m ...
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- Re: help, i swallowed some amalgam
by Hveragerthi
3 year
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These sites are full of hype and a lot of misinformation. They are generally selling some mercury binding product or have a site somewhere else selling such a product. So they want to make it sound more scary than it really is so you will buy their product. Or the sites are written by well meaning people that do all their research from these sales sites. This is why we see so many people claiming they have mercury poisoning even though their symptoms are not those of mercury poisoning. These sales sites frequently list symptoms that have nothing to do wi ...
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- Re: help, i swallowed some amalgam
by spudlydoo
3 year
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Hi, like Hvergerthi said, these sites are there to sell stuff, and they will exagerate the dangers and play on peoples fears. I will look around and see if I can find any that are credible :) ... ... If you’ve had the amalgam fillings for a long time, most of the vapours would have leached out years ago, and swallowing something that has been in your mouth for years is not going to harm you, particularly as you have got it out with the enema anyway. ... ... If I swallowed something nasty, I would probably feel pretty awful, more because of the thought of swallowing it, than any real symptoms. ... ... Pl ...
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- Re: help, i swallowed some amalgam
by Hveragerthi
3 year
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It would depend on how big the pieces of Amalgam were, and how old they are. If its just a few pieces of old amalgam, then you will be fine. ... ... By quick elimination, I mean have some extra fibre, maybe a few prunes or some prune juice, and you should pass any pieces within the next 24 hours. ... ... You can do an enema if you want to, but it is not necessary. ... ... spud ... ... Brans would be the best. Brans contain phytic acid, which has a high affinity for mercury. The phytic acid will bind the mercury so it cannot affect the body and carry it out of the body. ... ... ...
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- i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!
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by potatodoo
3 year
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i was recently reading this forum called ’the truth in medicine’. the man or woman there who runs it is out of their minds. they were honestly saying that mercury is not a cause of health problems, and that people would be better off relaxing and not making a big deal of it. unbelievable arrogance of that person who claims to be scientific -- when there are reams of scientific studies now proving just how bad mercury poisoning is. ... ... we need to be very careful of people like this and make sure they do not influence public opinion. they are almost as bad as the AMA. ... ... [End]
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!2
by #118839
3 year
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I agree ,guys like this are here to do what they can to make sure as little healing as possible is accomplished, him and his crew that troll these boards! [End]
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!3
by rogerdonnersly
3 year
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i wouldn\’t go so far as to call the forum members trolls, that isn\’t fair. i think these forum owners have a little more responsibility to their followers not to succumb to their own egos or power trips. it is just a normal human frailty to indulge in excessive ego, but some of the forums go too far. it is even in the curezone TOS not to indulge excessively in ego-related behavior. i\’m not suggesting that some of these forum owners be blocked from curezone, but perhaps some sort of warning could be issued just to keep them in check. ... ... you can\’t really blame the members, they are just ...
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!4
by Hveragerthi
3 year
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i was recently reading this forum called ’the truth in medicine’. the man or woman there who runs it is out of their minds. they were honestly saying that mercury is not a cause of health problems, ... ... Apparently someone never learned to read beyond a second grade level because that is not what I said. In fact I did say mercury can cause health problems. Here is one of my older posts on the subject. Pay careful attention to where I say " Method of exposure is also a major factor in toxicity. " Hmm.... so I do mention the toxicity of mercury. But potatodoo ...
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!5
by pawel110
3 year
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I personally think the whole danger of accumulative toxicity from mercury poisoning has been severely under-hyped as evidenced by the majority of reactions i get when the topic broached in conversation - but that is besides the point. ... As denmark, sweden and norway have banned its dental use, it will be clear, in 3 or 4 decades, to what extent mercury from amalgams effects health. [End]
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!6
by #130297
3 year
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amen to that! ... ... we don’t need to wait 3-4 decades. have you noticed the exponential increase in autism, add, so-called autoimmune diseases, not to mention the general dumbed-down intelligence levels in the u.s.? ... ... the people who under-hype the problem are almost practicing a form of subtle abuse. it is called blame the victim for their imagined hysteria. doctors used to do this at the turn of the century to women who would present with diseases, and they did it to aids patients before aids was a recognized illness. [End]
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!7
by pawel110
3 year
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Agreed - 3-4 decades are not really required to many of us but for the medical profession to get on board it is! except for a handful of enlightened doctors - none of whom I have ever met. ... They generally all require empirical evidence sadly. ... Alternative practitioners however are more open to the dangers of Hg toxicity but I am unsure of their credentials in treating this condition. ... Those like A. Cutler and Boyde Haley and Hal Huggins present convincing arguments and for severe Hg toxicity I have found following A Cutlers method most effective but have used and combined information from ...
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!8
by Hveragerthi
3 year
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the people who under-hype the problem are almost practicing a form of subtle abuse. it is called blame the victim for their imagined hysteria. ... ... Noone is blaming the victim. In order to blame the victim as you put it the symptoms would have to be psychosomatic. But noone has said these symptoms are psychosomatic. The symptoms can be real, but as I pointed out in another post on my forum I find it interesting that the symptoms people are attributing to mercury toxicity are not symptoms of mercury poisoning. People are misdiagnosing themselves because they read some bogus crap on a w ...
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- so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS9
by #130377
3 year
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excerpt from a lady who posted on curezone 9 years ago... ... ... she contracted MS and what did she do? ... ... good thing hv wasn’t around at the time to dissuade her from getting cured!!!! ... ... ... ... 10 days and symptom free!!!!! amazing!!!! ... ... ... gee who will i believe, the 8th grade theoretical science pedant or a real person with real-life experience? ... ... hats off to this lady who had the courage and sense to do the right thing. ... ... i can’t wait for the hv response. ... ... i just talked to the girlfriend of a friend of mine. turns out she had debilitating migraines for over 20 years. she had heard of ...
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS10
by spudlydoo
3 year
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There is no evidence to show that these people you are supposedly citing even exist, you could be making it all up, who is to know, you are an anonymous number on an internet forum. ... ... spud [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS11
by spudlydoo
3 year
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lol, and again another one post person, mmmmmm maybe its the same person, just changing usernames/numbers. ... ... MMMM seems to be a lot of these one post people lately, coincidence , or trolling. (I think its trolling). ... ... spud [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS12
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it’s obvious people feel threatened by HV and chose to use their user number instead of user name for their own protection here at Curezone! And to keep people like you who attack the messenger instead of the message! [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS13
by spudlydoo
3 year
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lol, threatened, what do you think Hv, or myself, are going to do, jump out of your computer screen and try to strangle you. What a joke. oooohhhhh scary , scary words!!!! ... ... You are also a hypocrite, all you have done is attack the messenger. ... ... spud ... ... [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS14
by #118839
3 year
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lol I saw his character assassination on the webmaster forum taking things out of context and getting that guy banned. Ive watched HV bash Tony Issacs with nothing but name calling and childish ridicule for standing up to him!A pitiful display of childish rhetoric. ... Is spud your real name are you not also hiding behind an alias? These are just frivolous attacks on the messenger because you really don’t have any proof for discrediting a protocol that heals and flies in the face of conventional grade school science or defending yourselves against this onslaught of misinformation. ... [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS15
by spudlydoo
3 year
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So, where is your evidence, or are you just going to give more of your own opinion? ... ... You have provided no evidence at all to support anything you are posting about, just more personal attacks, ho hum. ... ... spud [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS16
by Hveragerthi
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ol I saw his character assassination on the Webmaster forum taking things out of context and getting that guy banned. Ive watched HV bash Tony Issacs with nothing but name calling and childish ridicule for standing up to him!A pitiful display of childish rhetoric. ... ... Sure, just like your made up story of being a Nigerian pathologist last week, and your claim of some non-existent lady asking me to test her soapstones that she got out after flushing. As many times as you have lied do you think anyone is really going to take you seriously?!!! ... ... By the way this forum is no ...
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS17
by Hveragerthi
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lol, and again another one post person, mmmmmm maybe its the same person, just changing usernames/numbers. ... ... MMMM seems to be a lot of these one post people lately, coincidence , or trolling. (I think its trolling). ... ... spud ... ... It is the same poster. I was informed by a moderator that all of these one post poster IDs are from the same person. Each time he gets banned he just starts a new ID to post attacks again. Must be an extremely miserable person since he spends his life doing nothing but posting personal attacks. Its the ghost of Justin, LOL!!!! ... [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS19
by #118839
3 year
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What a lame rebuttal this same thing could be said about any of you people,, how do we know you dont work directly with the pharmaceutical industry that you seem to parrot and emulate so consistantly through out Curezone! Hv does the same thing calling people frauds and liars who testify and share their successes! [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS20
by spudlydoo
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That was the whole point of the my post, you don’t know who is who, or what they are about. You and I have no idea if this post by the one post person is true or not. ... ... I have never seen any posts by Hv that promote pharmacuticals, and if you can supply one to back your accusation, please do, that would at least give you some sort of credibility. Same goes for me, you show me where I have ever supported any pharmacutical company or agenda, and maybe I’ll take a bit more notice of your posts. Otherwise your just another whinger, making lots of false accusations with nothing behind them bu ...
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by Hveragerthi
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While your at it, show some evidence of where Hv has called anyone sharing a testimony, a fraud and a liar. ... ... spud ... ... You are right, I never have. But this was the same exact accusation started by Moreless when he was disgraced so bad, and his lapdog Justin kept repeating this lie over and over after that. Appears he is back and using his same tricks. ... [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS23
by Hveragerthi
3 year
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What a lame rebuttal this same thing could be said about any of you people,, how do we know you dont work directly with the pharmaceutical industry that you seem to parrot and emulate so consistantly through out Curezone! Hv does the same thing calling people frauds and liars who testify and share their successes! ... ... This really is sounding like Justin again who was banned how many times from CZ for violations of TOS? I am sure he holds the world record for this. But he just keeps changing IDS then comes back to start with the personal attacks. It is really a shame that he does not ...
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS24
by Hveragerthi
3 year
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There is no evidence to show that these people you are supposedly citing even exist, you could be making it all up, who is to know, you are an anonymous number on an internet forum. ... ... spud ... ... And let’s not forget that just last week this same poster was claiming to be a Nigerian pathologist on my forum. So he has quite a history of making things up, and shows very strong delusional traits. ... [End]
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS26
by rogerdonnersly
9 mon
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Well I used to believe people like you but since my wife had her fillings removed her severe depression is completely gone. She has been able to stop taking medication for the first time in 11 years. I’m really inclined to believe my eyes and my wife LOL as I know she is real!!!! ... ... That isn’t a fair argument to use on curezone because I assume you are also corresponding here with people you haven’t met. ... ... I also am now inclined to believe a lot of the people that you are accusing of being impostors. ... ... It’s true that some websites do sell products, but many of the anti-mercury websites ...
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- Re: so much for hv credibility... testimonial from woman with MS27
by Hveragerthi
3 year
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excerpt from a lady who posted on curezone 9 years ago... ... ... she contracted MS and what did she do? ... ... good thing hv wasn’t around at the time to dissuade her from getting cured!!!! ... ... < Amalgam fillings. ... ... ... My cousin was a dentist and removed all of them, at one time, and replaced them with gold (now I wish I had opted for composite material, but the gold doesn’t seem to cause me all that many problems). ... ... ... Within 10 days, I had NO more symptoms of MS! Very few people, including my doctors and my cousin, the dentist, believed me. I didn’t care, I KNEW it was ...
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!28
by rogerdonnersly
9 mon
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But you said that phytic acid in bran can easily bind to mercury. That is a very irresponsible thing to say about one of the most toxic substances a person can have in their body. ... ... Do you think then it’s ok to send your children off to play in radioactive waste as long as they eat some miso soup? ... ... I would be very skeptical of anything you say from now on. [End]
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!29
by slider25
3 year
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I think HV’s theory on Mercury Amalgams has some merit if a person has had the same fillings for all his/her life. Maybe you can escape relatively unharmed if you keep those same fillings and also eat the required amount of pectins etc to carry it out. ... ... However, things become alot more muddled when a person has their fillings removed and replaced - like I did - at a relatively regular rate (on average three or four fillings every three years). With this scenario you get the constant low-dose of mercury(believed to be around 15mcg per day) along with the very significant exposure whilst g ...
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!30
by spudlydoo
3 year
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Well said Slider. We have so much contact with so many toxins and heavy metal contamination, today, that it would be very hard to nail down the culprit for many of the symptoms. ... ... I agree with your advice, if you have mercury containing amalgams, get them out. There are some very good alternative chelation protocols, and keeping your body as healthy as you can, while you are chelating, will get you through it easier. ... ... spud ... ... [End]
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- Re: i cant believe the truth in medicine forum!!!31
by hanna
3 year
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This has been my approach when my dentist said I needed some fillings replaced I switched dentists and did not replace them with amalgam. ... Except for a bridge all my fillings have been replaced over several years. ... As far as I can tell I still feel the same as when I had my old fillings, but I feel happy that I did it. [End]
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- Testimonies??
by tommyboytom
3 year
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Hey Everyone, ... ... I have been battling health issues for quite a while now - depressed immune system, candida overgrowth / systemic Candidiasis, cold hands and feet, fatigue, etc. ... ... As I have been reading through this website, and as I talk to my naturopath, and read up on Dr. Hulda Clark (controversial!!), I found that removing amalgam fillings and going through a number of chellation protocols helps to rid the body of mercury (among other heavy metals). ... ... I was just wondering a couple of things: ... ... 1. Any success stories out there? Any frustrated stories where removing amalgam fillings ...
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- Re: Testimonies??
by hanna
3 year
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Just general cleansing will help a lot before spending thousands (like 7-10000) on your teeth. ... Check out the bowelcleanse, liverflush forums. ... Cut out things like sodas, sugar etc. ... ... [End]
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- There is also a survey you can read
by hanna
3 year
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http://www.curezone.com/faq/p/s.asp?a=3,768&s=55 ... ... I have slowly replaced all my fillings since they were getting old. I am about metal free but after cleansing etc for 8 years I don’t feel any different. It is just good to know that they are out. [End]
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The Dangers of Dental Amalgam (Mercury poisoning, Silver fillings)
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The Dangers of Dental Amalgam (Mercury poisoning, Silver fillings) ... ... ... Millions of people have dental amalgam silver fillings implanted in their teeth. Dental amalgam is the most commonly used material to repair cavities. Amalgam fillings contain 50% mercury and just 20 to 35% silver. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... From: ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeanAuZK_DY ... ... ... Mercury vapor is released from amalgam fillings, is inhaled and swallowed, and causes low level mercury poisoning in the body. The amount of mercury in the brain is directly linked to the number and the s ...
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- US issues health warning over mercury fillings
by bewnyfur
4 year
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Amalgam dental fillings – which contain the highly toxic metal mercury – pose a health risk, the world’s top medical regulatory agency has conceded. ... ... http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/us-issues-health-warning-over-mercury-fillings-856582.html [End]
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- U.S. FDA reverses position, says mercury dental fillings not harmful!!(f...
by MikeDiamond
4 year
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U.S. FDA says mercury dental fillings not harmful ... ... ... updated 4:39 p.m. ET, Tues., July 28, 2009 ... ... ... WASHINGTON - By Susan Heavey ... ... The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said on Tuesday silver-colored dental fillings that contain mercury are safe for patients, reversing an earlier caution against their use in certain patients, including pregnant women and children. ... ... ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32189812/ [End]
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- bile acids for a tooth filling
by fuggles
4 year
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go to google news and type ... ... mercury fillings ... ... ... some new news articles about makings from bile acids ... ... ... [End]
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- Results from the Boyd Haley Laboratory relating to toxic effects of merc...
by pawel110
5 year
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Results from the Boyd Haley Laboratory relating to toxic effects of mercury to excerabation of the medical condition classified as Alzeimer’s Disease ... ... Research regarding Alzheimer’s disease (AD) in our laboratory has been directed towards detecting aberrancy in the nucleotide binding proteins of AD post-mortem brain versus age matched control brain samples. Basic to all of our findings is the following observation. Two very important brain nucleotide binding proteins, tubulin and creatine kinase (CK), show greatly diminished nucleotide binding ability and they are abnormally partitioned ...
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- Norris Alderson on Dental Amalgams and the National Environmental Policy...
by LCD
5 year
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Statement by ... Norris Alderson, ... Director ... Office of Science and Health Coordination ... FDA ... ... ... on ... Dental Amalgams and the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969 ... ... before ... House Subcommittee on Domestic Policy ... U.S. House of Representatives ... ... Source: ... http://www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/2007/11/t20071114a.html ... ... ... Wednesday, November 14, 2007 ... ... ... ... Introduction ... ... Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee, I am Dr. Norris Alderson, Director, Office of Science and Health Coordination at the Food and Drug Administration (FDA or the Agency). I appreciate your invitation and the opportu ...
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- New theory explains tooth decay and amalgam as a corrosion problem!
by abcseeker
5 year
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New theory explains tooth decay and amalgam as a corrosion problem! amalgam is treason, is because it is corroded and transported into your body, like the fat in the brain. This makes certain areas more conductive than others, thus attracting and redirecting electric signals making you focus on other areas than normal. You think different because of mercury or amalgam and aluminium, which is the new government approved mind out of control experiment. Aluminium is almost as conductive as copper and also used in long stretch cabling, where copper is too soft. Stop eating from aluminium pots ...
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- Mercury from amalgam documented to cause oral and other cancers
by damsp
5 year
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Mercury from amalgam is documented to be the most common cause of oral lichen planus and lots of other oral health problems due to the high levels of mercury in the gums, jawbone, oral mucosa,etc.; and amalgam replacement almost always cures such conditions. ... http://www.flcv.com/periodon.html ... ... ... But mercury also causes oral cancers such as squamous cell cancer, and is a factor in other cancers throughout the body, due both to toxic/inflammatory effects as well as depressing the immune system. ... http://www.flcv.com/cancerhg.html ... ... ... Detox is one of the most effective treatments f ...
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- 3 minutes for The Amalgam Replacement Experiences Survey
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Please donate 3 minutes of your time and answer the first 10 questions of The Amalgam Replacement Experiences Survey: ... ... here: http://curezone.com/faq/p/s.asp?a=3,76&s=55 ... ... Majority of the first 10 questions are Yes/No questions so it really takes no effort to answer them. ... ... Even if you have just replaced 1 or 2 Amlagm filled teeth ... you can still contribute to this survey with your experience. ... ... To finish the whole survey, without leaving any comments, you will need at least 10 minutes. ... ... To add comments to your answers, you may need to invest from 15 to 30 minutes, depending on h ...
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- Synergistic effect of mercury with lead extremely toxic
by damsp
5 year
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When an animal or person has both lead and mercury, the toxic effect is more than 10 times higher than for either mercury or lead alone. Animal studies have found that a level of mercury that kills 1% of mice together with a level of lead that kills 1% of mice, together kills all mice for example. Similar with other metals such as cadmium. ... ... http://www.flcv.com/hgsynerg.html ... ... ... http://www.flcv.com/tmlbn.html ... ... [End]
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- Mercury teeth fillings may harm some: U.S. FDA
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080604/hl_nm/fda_dentalfillings_dc ... ... ... WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Silver-colored metal dental fillings contain mercury that may cause health problems in pregnant women, children and fetuses, the Food and Drug Administration said on Wednesday after settling a related lawsuit. ... ... ... As part of the settlement with several consumer advocacy groups, the FDA agreed to alert consumers about the potential risks on its website and to issue a more specific rule next year for fillings that contain mercury, FDA spokeswoman Peper Long said. ... ... Millions of Americans have the fil ...
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- Thus making obvious the big lie about Thimerosal in vaccines being safe
by dquixote1217
5 year
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"Dental Amalgams contain mercury, which may have neurotoxic effects on the nervous systems of developing children and fetuses," the FDA said in a notice on its Web site. ... ... That would seem to screw the pooch about any contentions that vaccines containing mercury are safe wouldn’t it. ... ... DQ ... ... ... [End]
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- Re: Thus making obvious the big lie about Thimerosal in vaccines being s...
by #86574
5 year
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That would depend on the amount of mercury in the vaccines and how many vaccines a child gets.There is mercury in fish and mercury elsewhere but toxic effects only occur if the exposure is high enough. [End]
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- Re: Thus making obvious the big lie about Thimerosal in vaccines being s...
by dquixote1217
5 year
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I beg to differ - in my opinion there is no such thing as a safe amount of toxin, especially not if it is man made. It may not be immediately observable, it may be with phoney baloney GRAS limits (generally regarded as safe), but it IS toxic and does have an effect. And there is no real way of knowing what happens when so-called small and safe amounts of toxins combine with other toxins (such as the numerous other toxins those found in vaccines). ... ... DQ ... [End]
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- Re: Thus making obvious the big lie about Thimerosal in vaccines being s...
by chris10
5 year
5,382
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Even the boy in the bubble had some level of exposure to the world . It is not possible to eliminate your exposure to mercury and lead so we have to be reasonable . You are being exposed to electromsgnetic radiation from your computer but you use it anyway. Mercury isn’t the only toxin in vaccines anyway;look it up. [End]
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- Re: Mercury teeth fillings may harm some: U.S. FDA
by InCharge
5 year
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To little, too late. What a worthless bunch of bastards that are supposed to be watching out for all of us. ... After the election, nothing will change either. That’s the sad part. ... [End]
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- Re: Mercury teeth fillings may harm some: U.S. FDA
by _BOB
5 year
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Can you say class action? [End]
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- Re: Mercury teeth fillings may harm some: U.S. FDA
by #67299
5 year
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nice timing. no new amalgam fillings being placed anymore. or hardly ... ... 50 years too late [End]
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- Re: Mercury teeth fillings may harm some: U.S. FDA
by ithinkikan
4 year
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Have you seen the youtube video on the smoking tooth? ... ... Google mercury smoking tooth and watch the video. It is a very simple presentation on mercury vapor and how it constantly seeps out while in the mouth, with the evidence on a green screen that demonstrates it at a normal human temperature and then demonstrates what happen when you rub it with a pencil eraser to compare to chewing food or drinking a hot beverage. There is a very interesting case study that is based on radioactive mercury fillings which were placed in a sheep and a monkey. Judge for yourself after watching these si ...
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- chlorella
by Hidden Username
5 year
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Hi ... ... I am curious to find out how many people take chlorella and have a lot of mercury fillings, and what results they have achieved(positive or negative). ... ... I had started to take chlorella and had some worsening of my symptoms but not sure if this is to do with a beneficial detox effect, or a side effect due to mercury chellated from my 10 fillings. Does anyone know if chlorella can be taken safely. ... ... If not does anyone know any ”superfoods” to help combat my chronic fatique/candida that wont interfere with my fillings. ... ... I would appreciate any feed back from your experiences. ... ... Good ...
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- Re: chlorella
by sjymusic
4 year
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I have just ordered chlorella as I am going to get my 13 mercury fillings replaced gradually. I read elsewhere that there is no point in starting any chelation until the fillings are removed because the chelating process pulls mercury out of the fillings as well as out of you so it can make things worse. ... [End]
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- I wasn't a firm believer in the dangers of mercury... but I am now!
by lightstar
5 year
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Hi all, ... ... I was having a bit of a toothache, in a molar that had an existing filling. (Amalgam - had it done about 15 years ago). ... ... The dentist said the filling probably needed replacing - and set about doing it, there and then. I knew removing fillings could release more mercury, but I took the risk anyway, and had it replaced with a composite. ... ... The tooth was really soft under the filling, and needed a lot of drilling. It was a big filling anyway. ... ... The next day I felt a bit lousy. Tired, lacking energy, and couldnt be bothered with anything... ... ... Today though, I feel absolutely fant ...
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- Re: I wasn't a firm believer in the dangers of mercury... but I am now!
by #130240
3 year
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your experiences are very common. i am so glad that you have seen the light in this matter and are feeling better. that is great news. hopefully you can become more active in the fight to end this terrible practice. it is probably the worst health crisis ever to hit humanity yet so well hidden from humanity in plain sight. there are even forums here like ’the truth in medicine’ where they flat out say mercury amalgams are not a health issue. geeze louis this is supposed to be an alternative medical site and some of the forums are worse than regular doctors!!. ... ... but your experience absolu ...
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- recommendations for poor people with no insurance
by inyanskan
5 year
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hey folks, i have been struggling with CFS for several years now. like my subject line states, im poor and dont have insurance. as a result my main source of CFS healing has been diet. first macrobiotics then raw food. since early on i have had a strong metallic taste in my outh and something i refer to as ’mouth sweating’..strong heat sort of salivation reaction that tastes and smells like metal. ive never been tested but am pretty convinced its mercury. what can one do if they cant afford chelation treatments? is water fasting helpful? supplements? thanks! [End]
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- Re: recommendations for poor people with no insurance
by rokybird
5 year
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go to mexico , get amalgams replaced with gold or ceramic, chelate after 90 days, with ala, Alpha lipoic acid, costs only a few dollars a month, eating meat is very important. [End]
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- Re: recommendations for poor people with no insurance
by inyanskan
5 year
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no more amalgams in my mouth thankfully. i will do the ALA, but why meat? [End]
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- Re: recommendations for poor people with no insurance
by Vernal
5 year
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I don’t think its helpful to just tell someone to go to Mexico to have their fillings replaced. For one thing, unless he knows about getting the proper procedure, this patient may not seek that and may be exposed to a lot of mercury during the treatment. Even if he does go to a trained biological dentist, the dentist may not do a good job. I say this because I know of several people who have had to do the work over here in the states, because of less than adequate work in Mexico. ... There is carecredit.com, which gives credit for people to have dental work done. I don’t know if you are a ...
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- Re: recommendations for poor people with no insurance
by pawel110
5 year
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Im going to get my teeth fillings replaced soon. ... In the mean time I have found that water only fasting definitely Helps. ... After 3 days the head clears. ... ... Here is a link that has helped me to clarify some of the symptom - all of which i get except for the heart related and MS ones. ... ... ... http://www.wholisticresearch.com/info/artshow.php3?artid=20 ... ... ... I have 14 large fillings and 2 gold crowns - When I open my mouth it is hard to see any white tooth, its mostly metal!! ... My health had improved slightly before Christmas then I visited the dentist and asked her specifically not to place any ...
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- mercury/amalgam documented to cause over 30 chronic health conditions & ...
by damsp
6 year
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Dental amalgam is largest source of mercury in most with amalgam fillings ... ... http://www.flcv.com/damspr1.html ... ... and ... mercury from amalgam fillings is documented by thousands of medical studies and medical tests to cause over 30 chronic health conditions. The mechanisms by which mercury causes these conditions is documented by thousands of medical studies at: ... ... http://www.flcv.com/indexa.html ... ... ... There are over 60,000 cases of recovery from over 30 chronic health conditions documented at ... ... http://www.flcv.com/hgremove.html ... ... [End]
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- Dental amalgam is largest source of mercury in most with amalgam fillings
by damsp
6 year
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Dental amalgam is the largest source of mercury in most with several amalgam fillings, as documented by medical studies, hundreds of thousands of tests by medical labs, Gov’t agencies, etc. ... ... http://www.flcv.com/damspr1.html ... ... [End]
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- Ron Paul Boston Tea Party Video
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... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZmIzEMUN8 ... [End]
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- Ron Paul On Health Care
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6 year
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Here are a few videos with Ron Paul Discussing his views on Health Care.... ... ... ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWLwJyc0ZqI ... ... ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rqcDfrxKIE ... ... ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuEdJ0DAGc ... ... ... ... If you like what he has to say, consider participating in the Boston Tea Party 2007 ... ... ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3M2D3V94M ... ... Printer-friendly version of this page [End]
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- Indian Yogi
by chickenmcthug
6 year
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I once saw a documentary where a yogi in India ate some herbs and then proceeded to swallow a gram of Mercury. Apparently, he has done this many times with no side-effects. He said that the herbs he ate rendered the mercury benign. Does anyone know what these herbs are? Thought it might be a useful thing to have when getting fillings replaced, (during the process). [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by traderdrew
6 year
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There are specialists who know how to take amalgam fillings out with little or no contamination. I don’t know if the people at ... ... http://www.1800chemist ... ... know someone in Korea but they know dentists in the US. The herbs were probably high in trace minerals including selenium. [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by Celcius
6 year
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If this yogi story is genuine why get your fillings replaced at all ? Simply take the herbs and live with the fillings! Alkalizing does the same thing it neutralizes the acidic nature of the mercury! If one has only a few fillings why pay the price and take the chance of having the mercury enter your blood stream full blast ! They say there are those dentist more adept at this procedure but can it be guarenteed and at what price a life of toxic mercury running through you vains ! I know those who still suffer years after having this procedure done and suffer from the same illness they did ...
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by traderdrew
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If he can find the herbs it sounds like a business opportunity. I read somewhere we need to buy herbs that have been encapsulated with a process that keeps fungus from growing on them. I think a high grade essential oil will help do the trick. Muscle testing or a maybe even a refractometer could help us determine which ones are good for us. [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by Celcius
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One of the major contribution from herbs are their high quality minerals and minerals are what chelate ,grab hold of toxins and remove them from the body !! Herbs also have anti bacterial anti fungal antiseptic and other qualities but its the minerals in them that neutralize toxins! So just use the well known minerals that neutralize and remove toxins as they are intoduced into the blood steam! [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by #86574
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Eating an alkalyzing diet is useless in counteracting the toxicity of mercury . Although your mercury exposure will go up for a short time after removal ,your mercury levels one year after removal will be dramatically decreased except in your brain which takes longer to eliminate mercury. [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by Celcius
6 year
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Do you have a study that proves neutralizing mercury is useless? ... How is it some people with a mouthful of amalgams live thier whole lives with no mercury toxicity symptoms and others are critically ill with only a few fillings” Could it be that some are able to neutralize the aciditic nature of mercury ! ... I find those hung up in the mercury removal dogma unable to accept this concept ! I also find this removal process extremely dangerous, many have suffered from this procedure! ... [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by #86574
6 year
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I have extensive training in chemistry and other sciences , unlike you. ... Removal can be done that minimizes hg exposure. ... Some people smoke and don’t get lung cancer but this does’nt imply we should all smoke . Many people have health problems they fail to connect to mercury.It is an established fact that hg is a potent neurotoxin and causes numerous illnesses. [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by Celcius
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So you don’t have a study that proves anything then! ... A paper trail means nothing, it just means you’ve been shackled to some other dogma and have less room then others in thier cup for new concepts! ... Telling me your credentials and trying to promote your authority from some piece of paper on your wall means nothing to most people here considering they have been scammed by some highly authoritative wall paperers! Thats why they are here in not at some well papered MDs office! They are the most well educated people in this country yet they are the most ignorant when it comes to health issues!
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by #86574
6 year
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If people on this forum don’t believe in science , they should’nt talk about DNA vitamins or any other discovery made by scientists at major universities. ... Ofcourse I don’t have a study showing that an alkylizing diet neurtralizes mercury any more than I have one proving the earth is flat or that life on earth is not carbon based. ... Would you put fillings in children’s teeth that are 50% lead on the theory that the lead could be rendered non-toxic by dietary measures? Lead is far less neurotoxic than mercury.Once mercury is vaporized from fillings it goes rapidly to the brain in the highly ...
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by Celcius
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Thats the problem with knuckle heads like yourself. You honestly beleive that science only exist in the shallow halls of some university! Like somehow because you have a piece of paper connecting you to this place it is some how special! ... ... Im sure you dont have a study proving anything about neutralizing or chelating mercury from these establishment mind neutering factories because there is no money in in such studies, but that doesnt mean they don’t exist. ... ... In fact there are studues on certain minerals that do show mercury can be neutralized and chelated in a safe manner and eliminate ...
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by Corinthian
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The problem with illiterate like you is that you feel your ignorance gives you some magical insight into the the universe. Pathetic losers who recognized that their magic hour was during high school and as people around them get smarter and better educated you feel progressively more stupid. You strike out in anger at the university degree you could never get, you think by insulting your superiors it will compensate your your intellectual deficit. ... ... You see Celcius if you weren’t so ignorant you would know that swallowing pure Hg is not as harmful or dangerous as one would imagine - act ...
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by #86574
6 year
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I agree with you Corinthian that Celcius is jealous of people who are more educated and more intelligent than him. He just does’nt seem to have the reasoning power needed to understand the issues. [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by traderdrew
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I was thinking about that story. I don’t know anything about this documentary but, I think it was possible that it was a form of mercury that may have been much less toxic than a pure form of it. When mercury binds with selenium it forms a stable compound that is probably safe to consume in small amounts. [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi
by Celcius
6 year
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Mercury is acidic any high alkaline mineral can neutralize it! There is a reason some live with mercury amalgams with out any bad effects ,yet some it almost kills! [End]
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- Indian Yogi is an Idiot
by rokybird
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I saw that show on TV and that Indian yogi is an idiot. Elemental mercury is mostly eliminated from the body within a day so one exposure will not kill you but it will poison you to some degree. Mercury in your mouth can be converted to methyl mercury by bacteria.Methyl mercury is 100 times more easily absorbed. ... ... I had 18 mercury amalgam fillings and was sick for 45 years until I got them removed. There may be substances which will absorb some of the mercury in your gut, such as charcoal, algin, sulfur containing foods, etc. Much of the mercury in your mouth goes into your lungs where ...
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- Re: Indian Yogi is an Idiot
by anonemus
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Elemental mercury vapor continuously comes off your fillings and is rapidly converted to the highly neurotoxic hg2+. [End]
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- Re: Indian Yogi is an Idiot
by VeryGnawty
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rokybird is right. ... ... Mercury actually used to be a ”cure” a long time ago. Of course, it really didn’t do anything. Elemental mercury is so toxic that, when ingested, the body rejects it and it simply goes in one end and out the other. ... ... The yogi didn’t survive because of some magickal herb. He survived because the body is smart enough not to absorb elemental mercury. If you swallowed a bunch of mercury, you would probably survive too. But I don’t recommend it. ... ... The same phenomenon happens with just about all toxic materials. If you consume enough of it by mouth, the body will re ...
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- Cheap replacement
by chickenmcthug
6 year
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I’m in Korea with no dental coverage. Does anyone know of a country nearby which offers cheap dental care in order to replace my mercury fillings? ... [End]
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- Hydrargyrum
~RN by UserX
6 year
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Iodine Supplementati
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That’s mercury - liquid silver. The problem is Mercury simply loves sulfur. So much so, that it will compete with other molecules for sulfur and can usually ”steal” sulfur out of other molecular structures, in effect killing or disabling them. Mercury (hydrargyrum, ”Hg”) interacts with brain tubulin and disassembles microtubules that maintain neurite structure. ... ... ... http://www.amalgam.org/#anchor63613 ... ... ... Sulfur is part of our blood cells as well as many other proteins and enzymes. Many systems in our bodies are very much like an industrial assembly line. If one work station stops f ...
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- amen
by trapper/kcmo
6 year
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no one knows until they have had them, suffered from them, and then gotten them out and chelated and gotten better. that is the only perspective that illuminates the dangers sufficient to warrant a claim of understanding about mercury, no matter what name you give it. the best anyone with amalgams can do is believe what they are told and act on that belief. believe they are a death sentence. [End]
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- Re: amen
by UserX
6 year
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It’s like true Love. How can you explain THAT, to someone who has never experienced it ? ... ... Without the mercury, I am brand new. ... ... [End]
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- Re: amen
by snakeater
6 year
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The new me began 13 months ago when my amalgams were removed. If I knew what I know now I would have over come my fear of dentists sooner. Of course if I knew what I know now about Amalgam, when the SOB who put them is was alive I’d of tracked him an poured an ounce of quiksliver down his gullit. [End]
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- Re: amen
by UserX
6 year
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Most folk don’t make the connexion. What prompted you ? [End]
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- why most dont connect
by trapper/kcmo
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... http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-04-18-dental-mercury_x.htm ... ... ... Mercury fillings safe, studies find ... ... By Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY ... Children who got ”silver” dental fillings containing mercury amalgam showed no neuropsychological or neurobehavioral differences compared with kids who got fillings of a polymer composite, say two new studies out Wednesday. ... ... The studies in the Journal of the American Medical Association try to resolve a heated debate over amalgam fillings, but groups that believe mercury in amalgam is harmful disputed the findings and the ethics of testing them ...
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- Dr. Phyllis Pendergrast, Fairbanks, Alaska - i hope you read this.
by trapper/kcmo
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those kinds of feelings are so easy to cultivate. ... ... dr. phyllis pendergrast of fairbanks alaska, you ignorant sl--. ... ... it was in the nineties and i already had more problems healthwise than carter had pills. i went to the dentist this time with some information i had gleaned about mercury causing me problems(god, i could have had a decade head start on this and been 12 years younger to do it!!!! the mental pain and anguish is all consuming). ... ... oh, no, said docter pendergrast. how foolish i was to even consider that a medical doctor in these great united states would ever do anything ...
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- powerlust and bloodlust honored in this country
by trapper/kcmo
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look at bush. look at pendergrast: ... ... ... http://newsminer.com/2007/07/22/8037 ... ... ... ... REGATTA: The Red Green Regatta on the Chena River is to take place today, starting at 11 a.m. at the Graehl Boat Landing. I look forward to judging it again, along with Jo Heckman, Patty Kastelic, Lanien Livingston, John Binkley and Dr. Phyllis Pendergrast in a boat driven by Chuck Lemke, who must be a regatta admiral by now. ... ... A high point in regatta history occurred two years ago when the Salvation Army entry, on which the band played “Neared My God to Thee,” sprang a leak and went down near the power ...
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Opposing views: internet posters over amalgam fillings
by Aharleygyrl
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SoCalGal wrote: ... ... Watch How Mercury Causes Brain Degeneration (Short Video) ... ... ... ... In 1984, thirteen dentists were sitting in a hotel discussing a seminar they had just attended on the dangers of mercury from dental amalgam fillings. They agreed that the subject was alarming. They also agreed that the seminar, though long on fireworks, was short on science, and if there really was a problem with dental mercury, the evidence ought to be in the scientific literature. So, like thirteen musketeers vowing "all for one and one for all," they set out to find the evidence, or failing ...
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A Reply From David Kennedy, D.D.S.
by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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I wrote to Dr. Kennedy about the above post: ... ... Dr , ... ... I had no idea anyone could be so mis-informed. Those dentists really do a number on people. This is in reference to the calgary videos . This is a very interesting read. so interesting how dentists tell patients amalgam doesn’t have the kind of mercury that will hurt you. i have heard that before, but had forgotten about it. ... ... ... ... It is hard to understand why the dentist has chosen to deliberately deceive their patients until you actually attend dental school. There you will be hammered with this illogical drivel and if you ...
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- Re: Opposing views: internet posters over amalgam fillings
by Celcius
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Mr mereke is obviously brain damaged, I dont care what he claims his IQ to be! The ignorance in his statement is the proof of that! Mercury is toxic it cant be denied only the promise of the dollar and years of mental manipulation can tweek ones moral and ethical values to support this fraud! ... Keep up the good work exposing this fraud Harleygirl! ... ... ... http://www.doctorspiller.com/mercury.htm ... [End]
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- Re: Opposing views: internet posters over amalgam fillings
by #79334
6 year
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Who is this ”Dr Mereke” ? Is he an MD, a PhD ? Does he exist? [End]
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- Re: Opposing views: internet posters over amalgam fillings
by imaxfli
5 year
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She wonders why Dentists won’t admit Mercury from Amalgum is BAD??? Why do you think-if they admitted it they would have to replace all those fillings for free and how about a couple lawsuits...that’s what is needed, data to support a lawsuit. [End]
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- The Smoking Teeth Video - A Slight Fiasco
by Savagegrace
6 year
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Earlier today I reposted ”The Smoking Teeth Video” on the Amalgam Replacement Support Forum. ... ... I had not seen it before and I was impressed. ... ... Unfortunately my cognitive abilities did not kick in soon enough to indicate that the video does not tell the truth in an accurate manner. ... ... So? Is it a fake? No. But that may depend on your perspective. ... ... So what’s the problem? ... ... The person doing the video doesn’t know what he’s doing. ... ... I had to do some Googling to verify my bullsheet indicator. ... ... Mercury is susceptible to UV excitation. ... ... The clouds you saw were indeed mercury, however, ...
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- Re: The Smoking Teeth Video - A Slight Fiasco
by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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the guy who co-made that video is a friend of mine. so, i am going to email him and ask him about this. when he responds, i will post it. i previously asked him to write a rebuttal when another dr accused it of being fake. he got together with collegues to write it and i posted it here: http://aharleygyrl.livejournal.com/725.html ... ... Torrie ... ... ... [End]
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- Bummer.
by Savagegrace
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Sigh..... ... ... I heard the thing about being dipped in heated water but didn’t make the connection. ... ... Sorry, you should indeed see a cloud rise above the tooth, but I doubt it would get above 1/4 inch from the tooth. ... ... Then the cloud shoud fall like a rock! ... ... It’s called specific gravity. ... ... Even though mercury is indeed excited (heated) by UV it’s not going to affect the specific gravity. ... ... A good example of this is a miner’s table in which lead shot is used as a filter. ... ... Gold drops below the layer of lead shot while anything lighter floats on top. ... ... The key here is I have no doubt t ...
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- "Smoking Teeth" UV Light ANSWER
by Aharleygyrl
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UV Light ANSWER "Smoking Teeth" Video, Produced by David Kennedy, DDS, former IAOMT President ... Dear Torrie, ... ... ... ... ... ... UV light doesn’t excite mercury unless it is close enough to heat the filling which is not the case. The full explanation of the laws of physics involved are on my blog at www.iaomt.blogspot.com ... ... ... ... A running commentary re the same issues by the uninformed is below the YouTube in excruciating detail. I also posted a video response where the mercury is measured using a Jerome mercury sniffer. It does not measure water so Laidler’s earlier ...
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- Thanks Aharleygyrl!
by Savagegrace
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I had missed his reply. ... ... Okay, I’m satisfied its mercury vapor. ... ... This is a cool example of when to apply different principles and the problems encountered, even with experts. ... ... Feeling like a yoyo is never a good experience.....;-) In the last two weeks I’ve gone to two hip specialists, the first was VERY good, the ”top” guy in this area. But I didn’t like how he approached the decision to have a hip replacement. So I go ahead and find another ”hip expert” in this area. Guess what? He looks at the very same x-ray and points out several things, ”important things” the other expert didn’ ...
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- Re: Thanks Aharleygyrl!
by Aharleygyrl
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boy, you got me. i am a college graduate, had 5 yrs of college, and never had a chemistry or physics class or anything that would help me understand any of what they wrote. i will ask that question to Dave and see if he wants to address it. but, he feels it is pretty cut and dried. all i know is when i asked for him to critique Dr. Laidler, he got together with collegues in the top of their field to write the rebuttal. it was a consenses between them. i just pretty-much figured it was scientifically sound, at that point. i’m not smart enough to arg ...
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- Dental amalgam is safe health care option
by Aharleygyrl
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... ... ... Dental amalgam is safe health care option ... ... ... ... February 14, 2007 ... ... ... By JUDY FISCH ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Recent press coverage of legislation proposed to ban the use of dental amalgam raises several important issues that need to be fully explored before such a proposal should proceed. ... ... ... ... I respect and share society’s desire to reduce the amount of mercury in the environment. Vermont dentists have been in the forefront of eliminating mercury from the environment for many years. We follow "best management practices" to recycle any amalgam waste. Last year we supported l ...
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- I had my amalgam fillings removed and cured my Iritis(Inflammation)
by #59865
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... I had my amalgam fillings removed and cured my Iritis(Inflammation of the eye) ... See the article below- ... ... ... http://www.helium.com/tm/132027 ... [End]
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- The Doctor Within sez:
by John Cullison
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HOW’D THIS AMALGAM BUSINESS ALL GET STARTED? ... ... Looking into the history of amalgams is most illuminating. In the 1830s there were two groups of dentists in America: those favoring mercury amalgams and those opposed to it. Those not in favor of amalgam -- the American Society of Dental Surgeons -- disliked amalgam’s tendency to fracture teeth as it expanded in fillings. Nor were they happy with the idea of mercury’s side effects, like insanity (Mad Hatter’s Disease) and loss of motor function from nerve damage. (Bernard) ... ... So the Society pledged never to use amalgam for fillings. (Lorsche ...
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- Re: The Doctor Within sez:
by Aharleygyrl
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HOW DID WE END UP WITH MERCURY IN OUR MOUTHS?! ... ... ... Cavities in teeth have been filled over the years with a variety of materials: stone chips, turpentine resin, gum, metals.... ... ... -Aguste Taveau of Paris, France, developed what was probably the first dental amalgam--in 1816. He used filings from silver coins mixed with mercury. ... ... The first dental silver amalgam was introduced by Bell of England in 1819 and later used by Taveau in Paris in 1826. Dr. D.M.Cattell stated that the first dental amalgam introduced into the United States was by the two Crawcour brothers under the name of ” ...
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- Re: The Doctor Within sez:
by #54423
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Your posting reads like a page-turner John Grisham novel, John. Who were the ADA culprits, who out-spent their rivals in the competing dental association, back in the 1850s? [End]
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- Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?
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I have many symptoms doctors couldn’t find a cause for, and I met someone with almost identical conditions who had just found out she had uranium toxicity. My doctor said he hadn’t considered heavy metal poisoning (it being near the beg. of his med. training and so much other info covering up the memory) but that it would explain all my symptoms. So a DMPS push showed my mercury level was almost off the chart! ... ... After two rounds of chelation therapy, I concluded it must be the fillings, so I got the old corrupted ones out. The four remaining are huge! They need crowns, which I cannot affo ...
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?2
by UserX
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You’d probably get different opinions on that from different doctors. Whether damage is reversible or not depends on your body’s ability to detox, whicih depends on your diet, metabolism, and genetics, as well as the quantity of Hg taken in, and the time schedule of its admission. ... ... I’ve been taking 300 mg per day of iodine for the last two days. I woke up with an amazing sense of mental clarity this morning. You may wish to investigate iodine as a flushing agent for mercury and other metals, as the use of such for same has been documented in the art. [End]
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?3
by chris10
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People have all the brain cells they will ever have by age two and they don’t regenerate. For those of us in this forum that actually have brain cells, damage from hg cannot be reversed since hg kills brain cells. ... Mercury is the most powerful mutagen on the planet.Cantoni,O. Molecular Pharm 26:360-68;Biochem.Biophys.Res .Commun.108:614-19.When DNA strands are browen by x-rays ,the damage is repaired to a certain extent. Hg breaks DNA and prevents repair of the DNA strands. ... Women are born with all of the eggs they will ever have. Hg gets into ovaries and damages eggs. Damage to eggs can ...
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?6
by chris10
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Certain cells such as brain cells do not regenerate.You don’t have any brain cells so don’t worry. Do people wth lung cancer gert better if they stop smoking? [End]
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?7
by UserX
6 year
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Neural regeneration (neurogenesis) is well known, and an internet search for it yields many articles, the following being only one, which I have chosen since it is of simplistic enough level that I expect a child capable of understanding it: ... ... http://biology.about.com/library/weekly/aa102199.htm ... ... If you have a genuine interest, you may wish to contact Prof. Bruce McCormick at Texas A&M University as he is heavily involved in research of the human brain. [End]
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?9
by mercurycripple
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What do you mean I don’t have any brain cells? Is that a jab? ... ... I don’t go in for much impossibility, I just need to have doctors say it to win in court. ... ... I have seen and heard of too many impossibilities done anyway. We’re all just ideas, living in what we see as time, when no time exists really, and something I see as a challenge is just an experience so I will understand concepts my deepest self made up at some point I can’t comprehend right now because I’m playing around in this time playground. ... ... If you want to take things literally, or a different way than I see them, you are fre ...
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?12
by Aharleygyrl
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sorry they did the DMPS. there are many horror stories about it. the best test would have been the fractionated porphyrin fecal and/or urine for mercury. but, here is some chelation info for you (scoll down a bit until you see it). i also have a file on what i took and if you want it, email me. ... ... http://biological-dentistry.com/shopping_page.html ... ... Torrie ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=733 ... [End]
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?13
by chris10
6 year
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Crowns are very expensive and profitible ,but unneccessary. Read ”tooth Truth ”by Frank Jerome. [End]
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?14
by mercurycripple
6 year
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Unnecessary? What’s supposed to fill all that space once the amalgam is gone? Pass on a little of that ”truth tooth,” will ya? [End]
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?15
by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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i think he is saying that most teeth can be filled and the dentists would rather use crowns. i agree with that. sometimes a crown is wanted because otherwise the filling would most likely break or the tooth may be too sensitive to chew on with a large filling. in those cases, i think a crown would be ok because there isn’t anything else to do but pull the tooth. but, yes, there is bacteria under all of them. a tooth needs to breathe and teeth have a natural of cleaning themselves, as well. when you place a crown, you cut off oxygen and saliva and starve the tooth of what it needs to ...
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?16
by chris10
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Mercury expands and fractures teeth. Fractures have nothing to do with the size of fillings.There is no evidence to show that teeth with crowns are less sensitive than those with onlays or inlays. There are however ,much more likely to die and become infected. [End]
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?17
by mercurycripple
6 year
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I can’t figure out how to tell when something is meant for me. But this was. So what do you do if the filling that needs to be replaced is massive? I hope I haven’t been misled into my last two crowns! But these four are huge, and I was on Oregon Health Plan, and the state doesn’t cover crowns, so I don’t see why she would lie. I’m stuck with needing crowns? No better way? ... ... Arika ... [End]
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?18
by chris10
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You say that your plan does not cover crowns and therefore the dentist would not lie and tell you to get them. If you get the crowns, would’nt you have to pay for them and thus your dentist has a motive to lie. Another possibility is that your dentist is not dishonest,just mislead. Dentists are very conventional,conservative conformist people in general and they probably believe what they are taught in dental school (mercury amalgam exposure is negligible, crowns are beneficial)without asking questions. ... It is only through years of practice that the brighter ones notice that teeth with cro ...
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?
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by chris10
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According to Dr Jerome ,crowns are not neccessary or beneficial even if the tooth is 75% gone. Inlays and onlays are better.Most crowns are porcelain. Porcelain crowns wear down the opposing teeth at an alarming rate and exacerbate TMJ problems.A porcelain crown will cause more than ten years of wear on an opposing tooth in one year. I asked my dentist what was in porcelain crowns and she lied and said they were glass.I asked if they had aluminum and she said no . They are actually 50% aluminum. Onlays composed of pressed composite or gold (without palladium) are less toxic and of equal ha ...
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- Re: Does mercury toxicity (from amalgams) cause permanent damage?22
by mercurycripple
6 year
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The crowns I have are gold. ... You’re saying composites WILL hold up? The woman who put in the mercury in 2005 said they wouldn’t last very long because they were covering an area too large. I don’t know that there is 25% there. What if there is 20% tooth? ... ... So I should ask a dentist if there is 25% tooth, and if so say I would like composites? ”Yeah, you say they won’t hold up but Doc Jerome has a different idea. Just mix ’em as strong as you can, please.” ... ... I am happy for this to be true, but what if it’s not? I hope it is. Is there anyone who supports his contention? [End]
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by chris10
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Dr jerome says you should preserve as much tooth structure as possible ,rather than filing a tooth dowm as is done for a crown. He reccomends inlays or onlays. [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
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Hi All: ... ”Well, I of course don’t agree with everything those websites state. I don’t know what her training is, but even within one profession, there are huge differences in opinion. DMPS is used extensively in Europe and has been for years. And I have not seen any problems with it in my clinical experience.” ... ... This is from my naturopath. I think the reason you (Torrie, maybe others) are against DMPS is that an MD would just shoot you up with it, completely disregarding the effects on your body. My naturopath shot in a vitamin or two after, then gave me more supplements to take, to prote ...
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by Aharleygyrl
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Your assumption about why I am against DMPS is not correct. DMPS was designed for the military. it is sold to dentists and doctors for cheap and they take advantage of their ignorance. if you bother to read my site about it, you will see that it is an inaccurate test for mercury poisoning anyway, and it puts too much mercury onto the kidneys. it has ended some people up on dialysis and killed others. that is according to Hal Huggins and other experts. There is no reason to use it for people with amalgam filling poisoning. It can make you very ...
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by mercurycripple
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Thank you. I have no idea what those are, and whether they are more or less expensive. The amalgams are so massive, they are destroying my teeth already, and I’m pretty sure I have at least a cavity, maybe more, maybe worse. I have pain, after a year and a half! (Have had the pain for months) I got those amalgam fillings (couldn’t get crowns when I needed due to who was paying...the State, I mean) in July, and got tested for HM 25th July, got the results 8th August, all of 2005. So immediately after I got filled, I had the money to get tested. I so f***ed myself without really being aware. ...
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by mercurycripple
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I believe with my whole heart I can completely recover. I’m trying to see if mainstream medicine, that doesn’t take spirit into account, believes I’m screwed. If so, I can maybe get the lawyer I want to sue my med. ins. co. for refusing to remove the fillings. Otherwise, I’m not sure where I stand in such a case, but have to find alternative lawyer. I need doctors to believe it can’t. ... ... My ophthalmologist thinks my eyes are just buggered, so that helps, but I’m not sure about my neurologist at this point. My doctor seems to believe in my intention to overcome this. ... ... I want to bring this ...
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by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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yes, it is possible to make a claim against your insurance company for not removing your fillings because you are ill from them. my doctor back in oregon testified against the insurance company and they won. myself, i was too ill to do that and needed immediate removal, plus, at that time, i only had state aid and battling them would have been like fighting city hall and probably taken many years. you will need certain tests to prove your case, like the fractionated porphyrin urine and/or fecal for mercury (get one for nickel if you also have nickel in your mouth). you could also get a ...
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by tac2k
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Sure anything is possible, but mot many lawyers are going to take on an insurance company for something that has no crdible evidence. Say what you want about amalgam, but the medical/dental community does not recognize it as a health threat and until it does, you have no case. [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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my doctor back home testified to a private insurance company that the mercury fillings were causing the guy health problems and the insurance company decided to pay for them to be removed/replaced [End]
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by chris10
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I thought that although many cases were now winding their way through the courts that no one had successfully sued for amalgam damage. Can you cite a case where the plaintiff won? Do you know the names of any lawyers that won an amalgam case? ... Did they just settle with the defendant? [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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no, i believe what my doctor told me. it was a private insurance company and the guy wanted them replaced with white. my doctor testified and the guy won and the insurance co had to pay to replace them. that is all i know. if you want more info about it, contact dr. radzik in mcminnville OR, but it most likely falls under doctor/patient confidentiality, so you may not get anymore info than that.Torrie Curezone Forum [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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no cases, no lawyers, no laws. the guy was sick and his insurance company would not pay for the mercury to be removed. my dr spoke to the insurance co on behalf of the patient and they ended up paying for the removal and replacement. but, this is not an totally unusual thing. i have had a couple people tell me that their private insurance companies agreed to pay for replacement of their mercury fillings. it does happen. they did not have to involve a doctor, either. when you pay for years into an insurance, it can make a difference on their decisions sometimes. that is what one wom ...
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by tac2k
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It is so obvious that this isn’t true! If it was, a precedent would have been set. Every insurance company would then stop reimbursing amalgam fillings and would pay for composites. Also, people would be coming out of the woodwork suing insurance companies in the same manner. Insurance would then start paying for amalgam removal as a necessary medical procedure. This has not happened. Why? Because you made it up. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true. [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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if i made it up, why would i not have posted it over the last 5 years on the net? contact dr. radzik’s office in mcminnville oregon and find out for yourself. he told me himself he helped a guy win against his insurance company who refused to replace the mercury with white fillings. he said i did not have time for that and told me to get to mexico, as i was too sick to fight. i have no reason to not believe the dr. so, instead of accusing me of making things up, contact dr radzik and find out for yourself. this was back in 2001, thereabouts. ... ... Jan Radzik, MD, ABHM ... ... 349 SE Baker Ave ... ... M ...
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by tac2k
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I called her and she said that she has no idea what you are talking about. She basically reiterated what I said in that there is no way a lawsuit like that would fly. She wishes it were true as it would make her practice easier with all the patients it would generate. [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
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it is not a her, it is a him, and he told me this himself. it is the truth or i would not have given you the doctor’s name. as i told you, this was around 2001/2002. the patient fought and won against his private insurance company and they paid to have the amalgams replaced with white fillings. but, Dr. Radzik testified for him to his insurance company and he won. i asked him if i should do the same and he said i was too ill and did not have time to fight the insurance company, that i had to get rid of the mercury and nickel poisoning asap. i think you are getting bringing a claim ag ...
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by tac2k
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You said this dentist TESTIFIED against the insurance company and won, and I’m telling you that that is simply not possible. If that happened, then every person out there that believed that their amalgams caused their health problems would be doing the exact same thing. Since the legal precedent would have been set, the insurance companies would have no choice but to pay any claims along this line. This would have been huge, significant, national news. Any time the issue of amalgam and health came up, this lawsuit would have been referred to. How do you explain that almost no one knows of ...
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by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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yes, the dr testified to the insurance company and the guy won. it is possible, because it happened. there would be no legal precedent. no laws made the insurance company decide to replace the fillings. it was the guy who had the mercury fillings and dr radzik who made the insurance company change their minds. you keep calling me a liar and you keep bringing law into. it was a little town in oregon, a private insurance company, a guy and his dr. that dr happens to be the same dr i had when i was diagnosed (by him) with mercury and nickel poisoning. he told me this story himself, as ...
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by tac2k
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The reason I’m making a ”big deal” out of it is that it doesn’t make sense. Insurance companies don’t listen to doctor’s beliefs. They go by what is in the contract. There are no companies that have a contract that states that we will pay for medical amalgam removal. As I said before, it simply doesn’t make sense. If you say the doctor told you that, then I will concede and take your word for it, but what the doctor told you is flat out wrong. [End]
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by mercurycripple
6 year
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The dentists who won’t touch the stuff do, they just know there is a gag order. But they certainly speak up about the damage it does to healthy teeth, at least here. Check out this website: http://bravosmile.com/resources/failing_amalgam.html ... Arika [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
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that is just one dentist and he obviously went to mercury free, which many do. some do it for money and some for other reasons. it appears he does root canals, though. not good. [End]
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by mercurycripple
6 year
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It took me a minute to understand... I’ve found quite a number of dentists who are merc free! They won’t say it’s because it’s toxic and poisons patients, but they talk about destruction of teeth. We need all of them to gang together and come out united to speak for the people! ... ... I wonder if I could organise that. I wonder how I could get them all together at once...to trust me to come to a meeting. Would the ADA go as far as to set them up? Or is that the paranoia I feel because of all the f***ing mercury damaging my mind? ... ... Just speculating. Anyone got anything constructive to add? ... Arika
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by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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you are fighting city hall. leave that to the advocacy groups. or, join one. we all felt the same anger when we found out about mercury. we quickly learned that nothing can really be done about it. if you want anything to change, you have many years of fighting ahead of you and you will need to join one of the groups already doing it. they have lawyers. i think i gave you the email address to one, didn’t i? if not, email me for it.Torrie Curezone Forum [End]
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by mercurycripple
6 year
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It’s worth it, but not until I’m well. Then I have proof. As you do. As others do. Everyone who’s been sick until they had them removed then recovered completely has proof. Once I have the energy, I’m going to take them on. It shouldn’t be just one group, the more large groups attacking the ADA the better. ... ... More on that when I have said energy : ) ... Thank you. ... ... I found my doctor’s letter and it says ”Please pay for this medcally necessary procedure of removing her mercury-based amalgam fillings.” That’s just what I need in support to win against them. ... ... Soon, I will feel better. I have ...
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by Aharleygyrl
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no, not everyone who has been through it has proof (very few do, actually). if you need proof, then you need to show mercury poisoning. i recommend the fractionated porphyrin and the melisa test. see my FAQs page on my site for info on testing for mercury. http://biological-dentistry.com/custom3.html (scroll down) ... ... Torrie ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=733 ... [End]
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by mercurycripple
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I mean that if you’re sick, have a test or two showing mercury poisoning, then get them out and get well, well... ... ... I have been crippled for several years. They have tested me for everything the neurologist and rheumatologist could thing of, including a sural nerve biopsy. All tests were negative or normal. They could not explain my conditions, until I met someone with identical conditions who had just found out she had uranium poisoning! My doctor said HM poisoning would explain all my conditions! So I got myself tested. The naturopaths knew what I had right away, and the test confirmed ...
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by tac2k
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You might as well have a letter that says ”please give me a million dollars” because you will have just as much success with that one as you will with your doctors. [End]
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by mercurycripple
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I had a great letter from my MD calling this a ”medically necessary procedure.” ... very supportive. [End]
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by tac2k
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My point is that it doesn’t matter what your doctor says. It simply will not hold up in court. The insurance’s big time lawyer will call his own expert physician/dentist/whatever up to the stand and they will say that research has never proven amalgams to be harmful, and that will be that. I don’t even believe that you will be able to find a lawyer to take your case as it is almost certainly going to be a loss.Your best bet is what Torrie said. Join a grass roots campaign that falls in line with your beliefs. If by a miracle you get the policy changed, then consider litigation. [End]
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by chris10
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Several dentists have reccomended that I have root canals in teeth where the nerve was not dead.Dentists commonly do root canals on living teeth .Don’t let them root canal any living tooth. [End]
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by chris10
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Harleygirl has posted countless scientific studies from respected journals on the toxic effects of mercury. [End]
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by UserX
6 year
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I agree. To not believe in a cure is to deny the existence of God. ... ... The lawsuit route would be expensive, and not likely to succeed at this time, IMO because of public policy. [End]
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by mercurycripple
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Being a big ol’ honkin’ Nichiren Buddhist, I deny the existence of God. I have the power inside my [5’6”] body to cure myself. I don’t look outside myself for that. I know some God-believers say it’s inside, and that’s great. But I still don’t look to something outside, like God. I chant Nam Myoho Renge Kyo, and my Buddha nature is inside—it encompasses my life. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [End]
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by UserX
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Thank you for sharing. ... ... Do you feel there are any illnesses that you cannot overcome ? ... ... and ... ... Why do you capitalize the word ”God” in your writing ? [End]
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by mercurycripple
6 year
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Do you feel there are any illnesses that you cannot overcome ? ... Me? no. Even if I die from illness, I will find out the cause first, and it will be because it’s time for me to move on, not because the disease got me. Everyone has to die, and we aren’t dying at a fast enough rate. We’re severely over-populated, too many people popping out kids... so much to say on that issue I’ll stop there... except we better start adopting all those ”unwanted” children before we find ourselves with a disease that takes much of the population just to trim us back! ... ... and ... ... Why do you capitalize the word ” ...
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by chris10
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Did’nt you have your hg fillings removed several years ago? Where are your medical records showing health problems during that time or subsequently? ... Have you ever been convicted of a felony? ... You still havent told me where you went to college to study chemistry and law.That’s because you did’nt [End]
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The Sanitization of Mercury - Cyanide Bracelets
by Aharleygyrl
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... ... ... ... ... ... ... It is no longer possible to support the notion that mercury, in any form, can be anything but injurious to your health. It certainly has no business being used in any pharmaceutical preparation, medicine, lotion, potion, or salve which could then be prescribed by a health care practitioner under the mistaken premise that it will ”help” you. By the way, the pharmaceutical industry apparently also recognizes this by virtue of having already removed it from all products that they manufacture including thimerosal which has been used as a preservative in many products in ”min ...
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by chris10
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We dont need a placebo group randomly assigned to receive fillings without hg. We know that hg is toxic. The only issue is whether the level of hg exposure from fillings is within a toxic range. There is conclsive evidence that amalgam hg exposure exceeds levels considered safe by govt. agencies. ... There are however studies on sheep and monkeys which are double blind. ... Dentists are’nt scientists. Most people go to dental school because they are’nt smart enough to get into a U.S. med school. ... [End]
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by John Cullison
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Here I thought people went to dental school because it provides the greatest opportunity to inflict excruciating pain on the largest number of people without any legal repercussions. [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
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i don’t think that is the only issue, whether what leaks out is enough to be toxic. the general public are not scientists and are basically sheep, in so much as, they are led by others who have the means and money to lead them. meaning, the corporations are able to collude with the government and produce products for consumers, and the consumers have a blind faith in those products. the government sets up entities like the FDA to make the general public think that everything out there within their jurisdiction, is safe. the problem is that corporations pay off the FDA and other agenies ...
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by tac2k
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Here’s what you do if you don’t want amalgam; insist that another material be used. There are very few dentists under the age of 50 that won’t be happy to accomidate you. Why? Because it is more profitable. Simple as that. You say your insurance won’t pay for it. Well, I say if you are so concerned about your health, then pay for it. Maybe that means you won’t be able to buy that big screen tv, go on that vacation, or have that new car, but you will have your health, right. Too many on here want to blame others and not take any responsibility for their own actions. You think the dentist is ...
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- Re: The Sanitization of Mercury - Cyanide Bracelets
by UserX
6 year
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I think that is all correct. [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
6 year
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no, most people don’t know of the amalgam problems until they get a mouthful, because they blindly trusted the dentist, who is just as misinformed as the patient themselves. [End]
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by chris10
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Are you trying to suggest that dental patients rather that dentists are responsible for any hg caused health problems because they allowed hg to be placed in their teeth .What happened to the concept of informed consent? Most people don’t enen know their ”silver” fillings are 50% hg.If dentists called them mercury fillings (they should) who would get them ? Many people have 90 I.Q.s and not much education . Are they supposed to be able to read scientific journal articles written by MIT PhDs? ... Patients have a right to rely on their dentists not to put highly toxic substances in their mouthe ...
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by tac2k
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No, what I am saying is that if you really, truly believe this, then do something about it. Go in and tell your dentist you want your amalgams removed and replaced with composites, gold, whatever the flavor of the month currently is. Most dentists under the age of 50 will be more than happy to replace amalgams for no other reason than you simply want it. While I think most of holistic dentistry is alot of bunk, I am willing to concede that the data on the safety of amalgam is shaky at best which is why I don’t offer it. By the way, amalgam is 50% mercury by weight. There is a difference. [End]
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by Aharleygyrl
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by tac2k
6 year
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I guess you are running out of things to say, so you are starting on personal attacks. Whatever happened to debate? [End]
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Re: The Sanitization of Mercury - Cyanide Bracelets
by Aharleygyrl
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... ... ... ... ... Internet Troll / Forum Troll ... ... ... ... ... ... ... "Netiquette Guidelines" ... ... ... ... What is an Internet Troll/ Forum troll? ... ... An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war. ... ... ... ... A classic CureZone troll is trying to make us bel ...
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by chris10
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We should’nt have to pay to have our fillings replaced. Also,if people replace their fillings ,healthy tooth structure is lost and the nerve is traumatized by the drill. ... What about all the years a person has spent with thyroid problems,kidney problems fatigue, depression ,infections from low immunity etc.?Does one have the same personal or professional opportunities at e.g. 35 or 45 as they had at 20? [End]
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by tac2k
6 year
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The only thing right in your last statement is the trauma to the pulp. On that you are correct. Why in the world do you think you shouldn’t have to pay to replace your fillings? Do you think building owners got away with getting free asbestos removal? Dentist make their living doing dentistry, and contrary to what you might think, most are in it to help people. Trust me, there is an easier way to make a living! There has never been any proof that amalgams caused any of those problems you described. [End]
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by chris10
6 year
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With any poison,the issue is the dose. We all have some exposure to lead arsenic formaldehyde etc. Even people with no amalgam fillings have hg exposure from fish etc. The ADA lied for years claiming thathat people with amalgam were exposed to 1-3 micrograms /day regardless of how many fillings they had. [End]
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