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- Diatomaceous Earth, Clay, and Green Smoothies
by acrosstheveil
62 h
49
CFS, ME, CFIDS
/ Lyme ("Lim
/ Candida Su
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anyone have any experience taking diatomaceous earth and clay? ... ... did you take them with supplements or food? [End]
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- What is your weight story?
by amber1921
63 h
67
Adrenal Fatigue
/ CFS, ME, C
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Hi, ... ... How was your weight changing throughout your recovery? ... ... It’s really confusing to me: I used to be under 100 pounds at my worst a couple of years ago and now I’m 140 pounds(!!!) which is not the end of the world for being 5’6” but it’s the biggest I’ve ever been. I want to be healthy more than anything, so I’m trying to understand that this is temporary but my emotional side resents this. ... ... Can you share your stories please? ... I really need some support here... ... ... Thanks [End]
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- Re: What is your weight story?
by omo
38 h
43
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I got progressively a little heavier over time, then my digestion started failing in a big way and I think my body started going very catabolic and I lost weight and could not gain it back. ... ... I’m 6’1” and slid up from maybe 170 to 185, then fell down to 152. I’m back to about 160 and gaining again, looking kind of both fat and skinny at the same time. ... ... So hope for just the right stage of ”Adrenal Fatigue” and you could end up rather svelte. [End]
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- Re: What is your weight story?
by ring5100
29 h
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Hello Amber. ... Interesting you should post about this, as I to have gained 35-37 pounds the past 4 years. It was just over 4 years ago, the rope broke and I went into a severe adrenal crisis. ... ... GOing slowly from a moderate to severe stage of AF to could bearly walk and anxiety unbeliebable. ( do to some controlled circumstances but, mostly uncontrolled) ... ... But, I gained 22 pounds within 6-7 months. As in research and reading, I’m sure it was the high adrenaline, cortisol that would not stop and this supposidly effects the T4 from converting into T3 (thyroid) creating a high RT3, which ...
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- Re: What is your weight story?
by nyckid10
25 h
45
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Yeah I’ve been having weird weight fluctuations recently too. Back when I had really bad candida/leaky gut and none of my food would get digested I was at about 140...pretty skinny for a male who is 5’ 10. Then I pretty much stayed at that weight for the first 6 months of severe AF, and all of a sudden starting in January of this year....I gained 25 pounds in a matter of like 2 - 3 months....out of no where. My diet didn’t change....I actually barely ate that much....just the same paleolithic protein low carb diet I was always eating. I started to take a cortisol supplement AFTER the weigh ...
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- Re: What is your weight story?
by Sherpa
11 h
31
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My healthy weight with muscle is around 180 lbs. Stage 3 AFS catabolized me down to about 155. Have regained it back to 175 with yoga, protein, broth, etc. [End]
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- How much salt are you taking?
by amber1921
63 h
73
Adrenal Fatigue
/ Addison’s
/ CFS, ME, C
/ 4
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I’ve been wondering if I take too much... ... ... I have measuring scoops of 1g and I take 4 to 6 of them throughout the day. ... ... It’s 4-6 grams(!!!) of salt. ... ... Makes me feel much better though... ... Usually I get stiff muscles, extreme confusion, low blood pressure, tingling and nerve pain when I skip the salt. ... ... Any advice?... [End]
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- Re: How much salt are you taking?
by Sherpa
53 h
50
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I just go by feeling / craving. ... ... I take as much salt as I need / want in food and water. ... ... As I recover, I find my body (as expressed through tastebuds) naturally wants less salt. It’s quite simple and elegantly designed, this body of ours. ... ... Time to live in harmony with it again! ... ... [End]
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- What causes the gluten intolerance in lyme patients?
by acrosstheveil
4 days
71
Lyme ("Lime")
/ CFS, ME, C
/ Diet & Nut
/ 4
/ 5
/ 6
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Almost everyone i have talked to with lyme tests negative for celiac yet cannot eat gluten, dairy, soy, artificial sweeteners, etc. what is the root cause of the gluten intolerance? I have been gluten free for years with not much improvement due to cross-contamination in the environment. I can even react just driving down the road and passing a (nasty) fast food place. ... ... ... I wish there was some supplement or herb that I could take which would reverse the reaction. It has ruined my quality of life. I dont’ really get much pleasure out of anything anymore. I feel like a robot
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- Re: What causes the gluten intolerance in lyme patients?
by 32771
4 days
64
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Info I found informative. Very technical / informational– Dr to Drs about celiac & gluten-free. If I understand correctly, one who is sensitive can NEVER EVER think they can have a hint of gluten, thanks to our “memory cells”. Yet the video says we must heal the damage in the gut. So much for the thought of an occasional donut… Yet after 9 months (did not take any supplements mentioned in video), I can tolerate granola one day a week, breaded chicken or fish without arthritis pain. But that is my gluten sensitive experience. ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=DjvKrAvolMQ&feature=en ...
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- My bi-yearly check in
by Laredo7
5 days
192
Adrenal Fatigue
/ Chemical S
/ CFS, ME, C
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Hi all, not sure if many of you remember me but I try to check in from time to time in hopes that someone who is suffering will look at my old posts and get some information that helps them find thier answers. Or maybe get some hope....I went from bed ridden to having just gotten married, having a flourishing career and remodeling our home and juggling a million other things....all stressful things. And yes, I still need to watch my stress triggers and levels and keep toxic people at bay but I can hike, sauna,live, stay up late, drink etc etc etc...my transformation has been profound. It c ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by SB1108
4 days
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Laredo - I’m so glad you are still doing so well! I was just thinking about you today and wondering how you were doing. I really appreciate you posting and giving us hope that eventually things may get better. I’ve been trying to detox copper for about 15-16 months now... I’m definitely better but not 100%. Thanks for the update! [End]
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by #170295
4 days
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remodeling your home, how fantastic not ... ... diva [End]
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by HypoglyNOTHypochon
4 days
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leredo7!im glad youre around ,and doing well!awesome! i have seen/researched many of your posts, particularly concerning histamine. oh good ol’ histamine. the reason for all of my troubles ; from constant surging adrenaline/brain fog , to depression anxiety/low dopamine&serotonin. ... ... at first i had a tough time diagnosing myself high/low histamine. partly due to not flushing w/niacin; which can happen if you are low in zinc... my symptoms are clear tho, flushed skin next to nose, super itchy episodes when stressed or hot, hot skin,hot flashes, feel horrible on high protein diet despite hav ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by purplepixie
4 days
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Fab, informative post hyponothypochon (love your name also! :-) ... ... The histamine thing has always confused me as i seem to fall into both camps of low and high regarding symptoms so without difinitive testing i’m still unsure, yet like you really do worse with high protein, hot itchy skin etc. ... ... Ammonia is an issue i’m battling with - what is OKG? ... ... Interestingly when i take Vit D i feel quite bad. More brain-fog - low emotions. I keep testing this with Vit D alone and no other vits and get the same reaction. I was taking 50,000iu mind you and changed to 2,000iu and still got the same re ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by HypoglyNOTHypochon
4 days
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hey thanks for the compliment! btw, we both have funny animal pictures.lol ... ... regarding your Vit.D ; co-factors are super essential (if you didnt know) . Magnesium, Vit.A, Vit k2. ive read many stories of people feeling worse after supplementing Vit.D ,if they dont have their co-factors up or take the co-factors. alot of people feel better or raise their vit.D quicker when they supplement with the co-factors. ... -Magnesium is also a mast-cell stabilizer.unstable mast-cells produce more histamine. magnesium is great for high-histamine. ... ... OKG, i havnt researched it much. but it is known to be ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by purplepixie
4 days
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Thanks again for the brill info - connecting dots is my new profession ;-) ... ... I’ll look more into the OKG...it sounds interesting. ... ... The Vit D cofactors - i read recently that Vit A and D should be taken widely apart from one another as they compete. It was a online doctors article (i might be able to find it again in my mega list of faves) who was shooting-down Dr Yashko for suggesting Vit A and D for her autistic kids. ... ... They talk about the article here: ... http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/25098-vitamin-a-antagonizes-vitamin-d/ ... ... Also: ... http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2010/jan2010_St ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by HypoglyNOTHypochon
4 days
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wow thats really crazy that i was talking about you. im sorry you had to go through that. geez, theres so many variables - genetic mutations is nothing ive thought about. its really interesting though. something we probably should all have tested; it should be mandatory really! ... ... lol @insane carrot addiction!hahaha ... ... ... and that Vit. D/Vit.A stuff is really some damn good info. thank you for that. ... and i know what you mean about timing supplements and even remembering to take them. its such a damn burden. its worth it though. ... ... im jealous that you have been copper detoxing for so long! ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by purplepixie
59 h
52
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I’m still early in copper detoxing really...but have made vast improvements. My ’good’ days are much better than before and increasing in numbers. ... I still have hormonal imbalances which make bad days of copper dumping especially challenging. Mostly a case of keeping under the covers until it’s over and/or hormones level out again. ... All in all i’m relieved to be having the good days i have - as 6 months ago everyday was a toxic, hormonal swinging nightmare. Had been like that for a year! ... ... With healing the greatest gift we can give to ourselves is to be patient. We HAVE to be...instant r ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by Blistering Fate
4 days
126
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Awesome. The information provided by Laredo its deep. Im putting it in other forums. The connection between adrenal fatigue, methylation and mast cell activation its proven now. [End]
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by thelaughingdogs
4 days
116
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Hey Laredo I am so glad you got your life back. I am doing tons better after detoxing copper for the last two years and feel I am on the edge of completing my healing. I got married in Oct. and survived the wedding stress without a hitch. I am glad you mentioned hiking because that is my goal for later this year. ... ... It’s great hearing from you and I am glad your posting about your experience so others can understand what might help them and that they can get over AF. [End]
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by SeattleK
4 days
103
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Wonderful news - I am doing much better myself by working on similar issues - but not quite at your level yet! [End]
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by hope4myadrenals
4 days
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Hi Laredo! Wow, that’s awesome you are enjoying your life fully! I’m doing copper detox now as well, and I’m starting to improve. I’m doing it slowly through Nutritional Balancing, so for me it will be a long, slow process, but it is so worth it. I’m so encouraged that you made it to the other side, and are enjoying your health and even got married. I’m so happy for you! [End]
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by Laredo7
64 h
71
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Thanx for the well wishes, I enjoyed reading others perspectives on the histamine and copper issues. One thing I must warn about though that was mentioned....arginine is a known trigger for major schizophrenic episode. And frankly high histamine can at times feel very close to schizophrenia because of the brain fog and derealization....my suggestion is if you are using arginine or anything like it go slowly and conservatively. I would first try tyrosine....and also TMG is a much gentler way to manufacture SamE and combined with methionine helps high histamine people produce much needed adr ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by oklahoam
60 h
58
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Laredo7, ... I too have followed your posts and several others on here. Congrat’s on your marraige and getting LIFE moving ahead! I found an intersting site about histamine and wanted to share in the context of the discussion here. Perhaps it will provide insight to others. I so hope you will keep us updated- we all get a real postive charge from posts as yours - i also like to go back and read to see what i may be able to glean from them for myself as supplements do not agree with me. ... ... Many blessings- Oklahoma ... ... http://thelowhistaminechef.com/my-top-10-histamine-non-food-triggers-and-ho ...
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- Re: My bi-yearly check in
by Sherpa
53 h
61
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Glad to hear you are doing so well. ... ... Onwards and upwards! [End]
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- jfk
by amber1921
8 days
93
Adrenal Fatigue
/ Addison’s
/ CFS, ME, C
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When I think that JFK had Addison’s and became president it makes me feel better. ... ... How did he do that?... [End]
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- Re: jfk
by Marie64
8 days
90
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HI Amber, ... ... What I understand with JFK through other group I have been on for support of Addison’s Disease. I heard he was given high doses of hydrocortisone throughout the day to keep him going. Plus he had the care of Dr’s right by his side day and night. I beleive he was given injections. But since then they realized that high dose is not good for the body. Sadly he did not live long enough to see what the results of his other health would have been from such high doses. ... ... I have found for myself over the past 4 years I need to listen to the body and blood pressure. My normal bl ...
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- Re: jfk
by wiredgeneration
8 days
78
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I would be interested to hear his story as how he managed the campaign trail to get to present as he probably woukdnt of had all the specialist care when he was just a ’normal’ person.. What a legend to do it though, but yeah Marie you are right about what the after effects of high dose hc would of looked like [End]
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- Re: jfk
by amber1921
8 days
78
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I was wondering about that sort of thing too... ... What about the time before he even became a senator?... ... How did he even come up with the idea of going into politics in the first place? ... Where did all that ambition and motivation come from?... ... ... Really interesting... [End]
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- Re: jfk
by Marie64
8 days
91
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http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/g35.htm ... ... This is not the one I origanlly saw still searching...but this one is interesting. ... ... Marie [End]
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- Re: jfk
by amber1921
6 days
139
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Thank you for the link Marie ... ... The list of meds that Kennedy was on is pretty scary and indicates that he was on a destructive downward spiral... ... ... But his will to go gon despite the pain is so admirable [End]
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- Awesome Success story blog
by hawskfan9325
11 days
268
Adrenal Fatigue
/ Depression
/ Anxiety
/ 4
/ 5
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http://misslizzy.me/blog/ ... ... Check this chick out. Cured her AF with HC, successfully weaned off, and now does hardcore strength training at 40 yrs old! ... ... I’m next, who’s with me? This thing is treatable guys. Focus hard on finding a good doc! I got my appointment tomorrow. If you are in Illinois, pm me. [End]
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- Re: Awesome Success story blog
by WoolPippi
6 days
130
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She looks wonderful healthy! ... ... her issues were at last half about hypothyroidism. ... ... My AF is causes by other hormonal issues and exhausted adrenals. I already cured my low thyroid function by eating full saturated fats and quiting my adrenal bashing. And reading that wondeful website she links to, Stop the Thyroid Madness ... ... Now I am on hydrocortison and resting a lot. This too improves my health considerable! But progress is measured in months or years, not weeks. My life is still on halt. I am now restoring the Zinc-Copper balance and this is exhausting. But I recover quickly from each ...
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- Re: Awesome Success story blog
by Sherpa
41 h
43
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Man, I personally wouldn’t wanna touch HC unless everything else had possibly failed. [End]
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- Ever thought about Glutamate?
by wiredgeneration
14 days
180
Adrenal Fatigue
/ CFS, ME, C
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As many of you know, I am in the depths of hell from a cold turkey benzo withdrawal. Talking to people and reading stories on various benzo survival forums, the effects of a withdrawal mimic adrenal Fatigue and CFS almost to the tee. So benzo withdrawal, and tolerance withdrawal, due to the high state of stress it puts the body into, can cause AF. ... ... I was also warranted to ’kindling’ by my doctor, a process of trying many hypnotic drugs to make me sleep, and each drug causing neurological changes in its own withdrawal..so over two years and around 15 different drugs, you get the picture!
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by #155216
14 days
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by wiredgeneration
14 days
135
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Unfortuantely dosent quite work like that but thanks for your detailed and highly educated suggestion my old friend [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by #155216
14 days
128
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why can’t you take gaba? ... ... [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by amber1921
14 days
131
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GABA supplements don’t work if taken orally. ... ... Might work sublingually but very ineffective anyway. ... ... You have to train your body to produce more GABA but it takes time and concentrated effort. [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by #155216
14 days
128
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I have taken gaba before orally and it worked fine. ... ... [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by wiredgeneration
14 days
118
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Worked fine? are you fit and well after taking it? did it just cover up the potential problem. ... ... If there is an inbalance, this can (and is in medication victims) be down to the gaba receptors in ones brain that have regressed as the brain thought they were no longer needed (because the benzos created all the gaba needed and then some). So the body and brain, as Amber said, needs to be coerced into regrowing the receptors. [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by omo
13 days
84
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Maybe you’re talking about downregulation? That’s when cells reduce the amount of something, for example receptors to signalling chemicals. If you overstimulate receptors like GABA receptors, they’ll get downregulated. ... ... If you feel you’re low on GABA receptors, you’re probably looking for a way to upregulate them. [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by wiredgeneration
13 days
89
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Yes thats it, benzo medication does this , and is the cause of half the withdrawal symptoms in benzo wd, but it makes sense that this can happen due to stress, insomnia etc hence why people might end up on benzos. ... ... Its a piece of the af puzzle that i haven’t heard much talk about, it makes sense in my case [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by hawskfan9325
14 days
129
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by wiredgeneration
14 days
123
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heheh , dont we just love 155216 Pat? :) ... ... [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by hawskfan9325
14 days
124
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As much as we love Reactive Hypoglycemia! [End]
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by #155216
13 days
110
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by wiredgeneration
13 days
104
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You are fully aware that you have been goading me for a long time, ever since Natway left, as you did the same with him. I imagine you enjoy it, hence you wanting a new target for to gain the attention when you get a reaction. If I really thought you where genuinely trying to help, it would of been appreciated, but your past ’help’ has always been under a shadow, so only you have yourself to blame for the ’7th grade reaction’ ... ... So I also imagine in the same way an imaginery god is to teach me humility, your arrogance keeps you here after ten years. ... ... Sleep well doll x [End]
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by amber1921
13 days
106
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Hey, Mikey ... ... It’s a really informative link that you posted. I’ve been reading this all day yesterday - my information processing is too slow:) ... ... The theory of neuroinflammation being the cause of CFS is very interesting and plausible. It provides deeper understanding of the etiology of AF as well. Glutamate/GABA imbalance gives rise to generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, OCD and sets off the chain reaction down the HPA axis involving the multiple compensatory mechanisms that the body has developed to adapt to the constant signal of arousal. It’s like stress that goes on continuously on ...
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- Re: Ever thought about Glutamate?
by Craig1129
13 days
93
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That’s a very informative article. ... ... Would it be fair to summarize it all as saying this is a closer look at the physiology of being stuck in a freeze/fight or flight state? Would you guys be open to that possibility without currently understanding exactly how? ... ... The most important part: ... ... ”If such a vicious cycle of glutamate excitotoxicity, oxidative stress, and mitochondrial dysfunction does indeed underpin ME/CFS pathology, it may not be clear where exactly the root problem lies.” ... ... I’m sounding like a broken record, but at this point in time there is not a clear consensus among ...
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- What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance?
by amber1921
14 days
144
Adrenal Fatigue
/ Addison’s
/ CFS, ME, C
/ 4
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Hair mineral analysis or a blood test? ... ... My insurance is based in another state so I’ll have to pay out of pocket for either of them. Really hate to do both... ... ... And how can you test aldosterone levels? [End]
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- Re: What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance?
by SeattleK
14 days
132
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I found hair to be much more useful. It told me a lot of things in addition to being fairly accurate in electrolytes, it really provides a wealth of information. Make sure to use either ARL or trace elements labs - because they don’t wash the hair. Lots more about this type of thing over in the adrenal fatigue forum. [End]
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- What symptoms do you get from salt wasting?
by amber1921
14 days
193
Adrenal Fatigue
/ CFS, ME, C
/ Salt
/ 4
/ 5
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I recently found out that it’s possible to get water retention when your sodium is low. It’s called euvolemic hyponatremia and it’s due to the secretion of a hormone called vasopressin or ADH (antidiuretic hormone). ... ... Last weekend I was getting puffy and bloated, so I thought I might be eating too much salt and stopped drinking water with sea salt every morning. After two or three days I got even more bloated and puffy everywhere, extremely tired, restless, slightly nauseous, started having pain in all the joints, muscles and bones (especially below the knee), got so confused and disorien ...
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- Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting?
by wiredgeneration
14 days
149
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talk to Faith Amber, she cured herself of RSWS [End]
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- Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting?
by saywhatagain
14 days
133
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Just spoke to my ayurvedic doctor today, he said for me about 3/4 of a teaspoon a day of high quality natural salt is a good amount, don’t know if that would be different for other people. This is approximately what I have been eating anyway and I have never felt like I needed any more than this. [End]
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- Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting?
by Marie64
14 days
162
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Hi Amber, ... ... I had the same issue with the sodium loss. I would actually puff up more then I did when I used salt. I had major issues with sodium loss. I am diagnosed with Addison’s disease as well as the sodium loss. ... ... If you find your sea salt is not working you may want to try Hawaiian Bamboo Jade Sea Salt. I have been able to stabilize my sodium since ridding my body af aluminum. ... ... To test for aldesterone is through a blood test. But the best way I feel to check your cortisol level is a 24 hour saliva test. ... ... Here are the symptoms I had from mild to extreme...extreme was after ...
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- Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting?
by Craig1129
13 days
121
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Marie I don’t know how much weight you put into what I say but I’m going to butt in and say I’ve felt for a long time reading your posts that you’ve been given a lot of bad advice. ... ... I don’t want this to seem like I’m minimizing what you’re going through, but I think it’s very likely you’ve never had Addison’s. If the person that diagnosed you with Addison’s is the same person that said all those symptoms are due to sodium loss (sodium loss is not a cause), I’d be very suspicious of seeing this person again. Just my (unsolicited) opinion.. [End]
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- Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting?
by Craig1129
13 days
111
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I didn’t really say what I meant to say. I think Addison’s disease is something that is going to be obsolete when doctor’s have a better understanding of what we are all going through. I think you are just like the rest of us. ... ... *I don’t know why I’m double posting instead of editing. I’ll blame the brain fog. [End]
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- Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting?
by omo
13 days
115
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Please note that your message is not in reply to amber192. You replied to saywhatagain’s message instead. ... ... Each message has its own reply link. [End]
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- Does anyone else feel MUCH worse when it's NEW MOON?
by amber1921
16 days
109
Adrenal Fatigue
/ CFS, ME, C
/ Anxiety
/ 4
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I know it sounds kinda strange but I’m super serious. ... ... I’ve been watching myself crash really bad every month on a specific day when it’s new moon. At first I thought it was a funny coincidence that my wellbeing directly correlates with the moon cycle like that but it’s been going on for 10 months without fail. ... ... Did anyone notice that they feel worse on this particular day? ... Is there anything substantial behind this? ... Or am I just a lunatic? [End]
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- Our personal medical information made public
by #155325
21 days
103
CFS, ME, CFIDS
/ Anxiety
/ Arthritis:
/ 4
/ 5
/ 6
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People with chronic fatigue might have to deal with this: ... ... http://www.change.org/petitions/us-federal-court-stop-violating-hipaa-law [End]
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- Can someone help me understand my stool culture results?
by carojilie
21 days
174
Leaky Gut
/ Bowel Clea
/ CFS, ME, C
/ 4
/ 5
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Hi, ... ... Recently I have had a stool test done which shows if you have candidas, leaky gut, malabsorption, bacterias, Immunology through IgAs etc. ... ... I have had a background of chronic disorders-CFS (EBV, CMV), hashimoto, IBS etc. ... ... Everything was normal except for very low lactobacillus spp and enteroccocus so I have to supplement on them and then my Iga are way too high and it just says my immune system is stimulated. ... ... But what does that mean? why do I have low lactobacillus and what do high Iga mean? ... ... My doc cant really answer these questions.. ... ... I have to point out that for a long ...
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by linenup
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Probably the main concern is the high iGa which is a fuzzy sign - which means it can be a couple of different things, I would suspect parasites as being a cause - tests for parasites are notoriously inaccurate according to many professionals - http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html [End]
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by linenup
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Probably the main concern is the high iGa which is a fuzzy sign - which means it can be a couple of different things, I would suspect parasites as being a cause - tests for parasites are notoriously inaccurate according to many professionals - http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html ... ... Lacto species are typically found in the small intestine while bifidus species are in the large intestine - I would suspect this is not as a big issue as the high iga. ... ... Info on sIgA http://pptu.lefora.com/2011/08/20/secretory-iga-siga/ [End]
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by carojilie
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thank you Linup, sorry I only see your reply now. ... So the high Iga is not a good sign? can you tell me, other than parasites, what it can mean? I have found a doc but have to wait until July. ... ... The normal range was 510-2040 and I’m 2422 which doesnt seem that high, not sure. ... ... I don’t know about parasites, many say it’s BS that only in the third world you find this problem. I have had many parasite cleanses and back then I thought I expelled some but how can I know if they were parasites and not mucus. ... ... anyway thanks for your help! [End]
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- Re: Can someone help me understand my stool culture results?
by Leo Bongaards
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Hi ... You may have already Googled some of this but here it is: etc. ... ... I have had a background of chronic disorders-CFS (EBV, CMV), hashimoto, IBS etc. ....This all points to the gut! ... ... Everything was normal except for very low lactobacillus spp and enteroccocus .....You tell us you have been killing off the Candida after killing or weeding so to speak one must seed so yes... so I have to supplement on them....Natural unflavoured Organic Yogurt is good to increase the lactobacillus acidophilus. ... ...and then my Iga are way too high and it just says my immune system is stimulated. But what ...
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- Re: Can someone help me understand my stool culture results?
by dave505
5 days
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Hi caro ... I have a similar case not the same but...here is my exp short version. ... 1. Blood test candida not reliable or not the best tool - 2 weeks after negative candida blood test I’ve had a stool test old school showing A LOT of candida overgrowth ... 2. Usually candida overgrowth go hand in hand with bacterial overgrowth which can have similar/close symptoms to candida. ... 3. Lineup said it right parasites tests are not always reliable or well performed . Parasites could also worms but also protozoa... ... 4. GP or regulAr docs are not trained to help you on that don’t waste your resources. Th ...
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- AF and WAKING UP LATE
by yoe91
28 days
243
Adrenal Fatigue
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I don’t mean to crowd the forum with my posts, but I am in an actual crisis these days I’m GONNA DIEEEEE AAAAAARRGHHH !!! ... Srsly though, I’m freaking dying here ! ;) ... ... Out of everything I’ve ever tried, and ever since the AF got really severe (about the 6th year into my 7 years), ND’s and my NB practitioner have told me to stop this, that, do this, do that...but the ONLY thing that’s ever ACTUALLY made me *FEEL* any different, like tangibly, really - is sleep. ... ... - I know I shouldn’t masturbate this often and it’s a constant battle in my mind I’m never relaxed doing it. And though I feel ...
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- Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE
by thelaughingdogs
26 days
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It’s kinda a common personality trait with AF to know you should go to sleep but don’t. We have a tendency to want to stay up late and fill our days with task we need to do. Part of it comes from anxiety too. The fight or flight response keeps you alert and especially at night. ... ... Believe me I have felt the need to get myself in bed by 9 but it always ends up being twelve. Your also right in that your body needs lots of sleep to repair it’s self. But you can catch up on lost sleep to a degree. I know being able to get more sleep has healed my body more. It always your adrenals time to r ...
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by yoe91
25 days
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thanks dog...can I call you ”dog” ? As in Adrenal Fatigue homie ? ah never mind. ... ... Thanks for the reply. It’s soooo strange, some ppl have complained about this, but I’ve yet to exactly understand just how physical it is, versus how much of a mental weakness from my part it is... ... Some times, I’m in bed almost ready to turn the light off, and just then, at about 1am, I feel like I NEED to listen to a specific song or band...and I jam the stuff, and start looking at pictures and remembering old times or stuff; almost like it’s stuff I need to do at that time only. ... ... Straaaaange... ... Would ...
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by thelaughingdogs
25 days
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Lol, well dog would not be my first choice for a CZ AF homie name. :) ... ... Here I am typing this when I really should be on my way to getting some shut eye. AF people tend to be workaholics. I am more projectaholic, but then I tend to have ADD never completing anything and jumping into the next thing to do. Then I tend to get obsessed with things like healing forums. On my way to getting sick I was staying up till 2am reading. [End]
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by yoe91
22 days
127
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..coz ”thelaughingdogs” is just too long to type each time ! ... ... Yeh well I know exactly what you mean of course, staying up for that mysterious reason...like you couldn’t do all that stuff before during the day right ?! (well actually...I CAN’T !) but that’s still not the point... ... ... And yeh, I’ll tend to start a project and then leave it, and it haunts me forever more because I wish I had the energy or motivation to finally finish it off...and then off to something else...you’re right, I’ve def. got that too... ... ... Well, good luck then dogg...I mean thelaughingdogs. [End]
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- Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE
by georgelove
21 days
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Have you tried looking in to holistic medicine? I dont claim to know anything about anything but- the symptoms youve described and maybe AF too, sounds very much like a vata condition as defined by Ayurveda. There are some articles on how pranayama can help AF. Meditation and yoga are miraculous in their healing abilities. They restore us to balance and can help us heal ourselves. Im not saying that they will cure any disease, but I claim that they will absolutely make the body and mind more fit to deal with whatever life brings. There are only beautiful success stories to hear about from ...
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- Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE
by yoe91
20 days
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well yoga ”doesn’t work with me”, not in the sense that it’s bull or anything just that I’ll do it for 2 weeks straight, really relax, put myself in uber-patience mode, and then I’ll just get incredibly frustrated over how little it does, and then I just see myself saying ”well what did I expect, it’s just laying there breathing in different positions !” ... ... I’m a hyperactive person to start with, and putting in so much effort into ”meditation” and seeing the obvious result I expected - nothing - is amazingly annoying and frustrating ! ... I’m just about done with it...though I’ll do deep br ...
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- Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ?
by yoe91
28 days
385
Adrenal Fatigue
/ Parasites
/ Brain Fog
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Hey AF ppl, ... I’m the one who’s had AF for 7 years and never ever once started to feel any better...it’s been a constant slope since day 1 in July 2006. ... ... Anyways I’ve been on NB the past year, still feel like crap; but these days are my all-time low. I can’t speak at all at the table, my parents are looking at me like they pity me dearly and are actually WORRIED for the first time in the 7 years of struggle. My dad patted me on the back tonight, and I’m 26yo...it felt sooo weird...ANYWAYS ... ... I’m on Day 5 of the Parasite Cleanse today (3-item protocol, wormwood, black walnut, clovers + arg ...
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by SgtThom
28 days
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A typical response to this is that brain fog or other ”bad feelings” are from the die off of the parasites or toxic releases from their bodies. I’m not an expert on this through. [End]
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by yoe91
28 days
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that’s what I’m thinking, but I still have no confirmation about actually having the suc***s in me.. [End]
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- Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ?
by h2olover
27 days
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I’m on my last day of Humaworm parasite cleanse and I’ve felt like I got hit by a bus the past 2 weeks. Flu like symptoms, muscle fatigue, and nausea. Yes, you are supposed to feel bad. Google Herx reaction, it’s completely normal and you will feel wonderful afterwards. [End]
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by daizymae
27 days
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Now don’t quote me, but I have heard that Chinese medicine formulas for parasites are well balanced, ie, they are much less likely to produce bad reactions. [End]
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by amy79
27 days
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If you had bad adrenal fatigue before starting this you probably also had a low sodium potassium ratio before starting and have made this worse with the stress on the adrenals from the cleanse. ... ... From experience I think low sodium potassium ratio is what causes most of peoples bad symptoms of adrenal fatigue. Try a low potassium diet for a while and stop taking supplements that lower sodium ie zinc, magnesium. [End]
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by dave505
26 days
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Amy this is interesting! ... Do you have any other information about supplements that lower sodium? It just happen I react very strange to magnesium no matter the form like I’m totally bedridden and blank mind. Did not find any reasonable explanation maybe this one is. ... ... The same with milk thistle but the opposite for zinc I get jittery from zinc. ... Please share if you know more ... Thanks [End]
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by yoe91
26 days
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h2olover, this is going to sound really malicious and weird but I couldn’t be ’happier’ to read that comment of yours ! Surely you get me haha, I’m not glad you’ve felt like you’d been hit by a bus mind you; but rather that it is normal... ... ... I feel worse by the day, considerably, noticeably... ... ... amy79: ... I do take Zinc as it is, and magnesium most probably in at least one of my NB meds...thx for the tips !!! I’ll try that. ... ... Thanks to everybody else who replied. Without you (as corny as this sounds), I’d be DEAD...yes, literally. [End]
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- Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ?
by onedaysoon
25 days
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yeo, ... I’m also doing NB since Nov 2011 and made very slow progress. My symptoms started with nausea, diarrhea, depression, anxiety and extreme fatigue. I suspected parasites from the start ( I travel and I also am in close daily contact with people from third world countries). All tests , which seemed to be useless, came up negative so I just assumed I was overworked and overstressed. ... ... A year later I wasn’t making much progress with my hair test and was still having some digestive complaints. My practitioner gave me an herbal concoction and a few weeks later I started passing worms. She ...
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- Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ?
by yoe91
22 days
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very, very insightful info in there for me Onwards, thanks a LOT. ... ... I’m being patient, as I’ve been these past 7 years of AF...I’m waiting for....well...stuff to happen ! Not jumping to conclusions, just sticking as closely to the NB treatment as I can...with ONLY that on my mind. ... ... I’ll post soon when my cleanse is about over and I’ve got results (or not..). I’m at Day 11 now. [End]
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- Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!?
by mattleecarter
35 days
306
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hey guys, ... ... I have been using all stages of the bob beck protocol ( with SOTA instruments ) for 7weeks to try bet my Chronic Fatigue syndrome I have been dealing with for 8months. ... ... Just need some help and support from anyone that has had success with it and If I should keep going. My goal is to do 4months. ... ... my protocol - 2hr minimum of Blood pulsing / Magnetic pulsing daily , drinking 1-2 L of ozone water and 250ml ( sometimes more on bad days ) of SOTA brewed colloidal silver w/ distilled water. ... ... Thanks! [End]
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by jaguar57
25 days
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Colloidal Silver can quickly accumulate in the body and then contribute to your chronic fatigue. I recommend discontinuing it. ... Chronic fatigue in itself means almost nothing because fatigue is a primary symptom of most diseases. You have to know the cause of it. If you have the viral type then it is more than fatigue, it feels like a mild form of the flu. That is what I had and here is a quick version of my story: ... I showed all the classical symptoms of CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome which is caused primarily by a virus such as Epstein Barr) since 1980 when I lived in ...
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by Hadasah
25 days
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... I’m sorry, but I disagree with what you said about colloidal silver. Silver is only technically a ’heavy metal’. It’s actually a transitional metal, meaning that it doesn’t stay in the body for long. ... I have been using it for a long time with beautiful results for my lungs and any infections I’ve had, whether bacterial or viral. ... ... Here is what the EPA says about silver: ... ... According to the EPA IRIS Report on silver (Integrated Risk Information Systems, 5th page, 1st paragraph) it states that a number of tests were completed to test the absorption and retention of ingested silver in a n ...
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- Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!?
by jaguar57
18 days
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the following is from the same paper you refer to. Humans retain 4.4% of silver. ... ... The authors used the data from the dog to estimate how much silver ingested by a 70 kg human would be retained. An ”equilibrium factor” of 4.4% was determined by integrating from zero to infinity a retention equation which assumes a triphasic elimination pattern for silver with the initial elimination of 90% coming from the dog data. The first elimination half-time of 0.5 days was used ”arbitrarily”; subsequent half-times of 3.5 days and 41 days were taken from a metabolic study by Polachek et al. (1960). F ...
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- Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!?
by JrDavis
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Particle Size is what causes retention. ... ... I know there is literature on particle sizes of silver being accumulated in the body. ... ... If you make your own CS and ingest it you wont have this issue. ... ... Beck would of got argyria if this was the case. The man drank it all the time. ... ... But did he buy his silver? No, He made his own. ... ... I think silver ingested along with the blood electrification is a booster. ... ... You’re also not explaining why silver would cause a tumor. ... ... Why would silver cause a tumor? lol ... ... Silver and Gold are the only metals the body can digest. ... ... If you have an issue with ...
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- Great INFO from Dr. Majid Ali
by Rhonda410
35 days
257
Addison’s Disease
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... ... The Cushinoid-Addisonian Epidemic ... ... The core message of this brief essay on adrenal health and adrenal deficit is: All chronically dysoxic individuals suffer clinically significant adrenal dysfunction. Dysox is the state of disrupted oxygen signaling and oxygen-driven cellular energetics. This view of adrenal deficiency is significantly different from the prevailing thinking in endocrinology. Endocrinologists, with rare exception, continue to be preoccupied with named adrenal syndrome-Cushing’s syndrome, Addison’s disease, Conn’s syndrome, and Sheehan’s syndrome-as well as pituitary t ...
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- Re: Great INFO from Dr. Majid Ali
by linenup
35 days
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Good post - Dr. Ali is a wise man. His book Canary and Chronic Fatigue is a good read. For me the issues were parasites which included worms but the most damaging are the protozoa. Leo Galland MD says to look at the gut for the problem (as in parasites) - my blog post about parasites http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html ... ... **I should say that chronic infections, toxicity and malnutrition will create the adrenal fatigue ... ... http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/02/adrenal-fatigue.html ... ... http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/11/hpa-axis.html
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- Very simple yoga to start home practice
by amber1921
38 days
293
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This post is intended for those who wants to begin yoga practice but doesn’t know where to start from. It contains an outline of what my yoga teacher gave me over the period of six months or so when I first met him. I remember being quite disappointed because it didn’t look like anything I typically saw online or when other people practiced it. It seemed way to basic and did not require almost any serious effort. What he emphasized the most were pranayama techniques especially the Alternate Nostril Breathing as the foundation for everything else. ... Modern yoga studios practice Ashtanga Viny ...
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- Re: Very simple yoga to start home practice
by amber1921
38 days
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I reposting this from my other thread couple of weeks ago: ... ... The Alternate Nostril Breathing ... ... Hi, guys ... I hope this might be helpful in recovery ... ... You will need a metronome device that counts seconds for it to be effective. I have iPhone app called iBeat which is free and easy to use. ... ... The technique is based on abdominal deep breathing so I won’t explain that. ... ... The idea behind it is to breath with the left and the right nostril on the even count of seconds which helps to balance the ANS. ... In yoga they believe that have these two channels Ida and Pingala going along your spine ...
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- Re: Very simple yoga to start home practice
by ring5100
38 days
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Thank you for sharing this. ... I will print it out to keep and go by. ... ... Paulette [End]
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by Sherpa
34 days
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Thanks for your notes. ... ... Yoga was CRUCIAL, not optional, for my recovery progress. ... ... At home, I prefer doing yoga with a video. ... ... Lots of great yoga videos on YouTube (free) and GaiamTV ($10 per month). [End]
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- Need a copper blocking shower filter
by overtheedge
40 days
178
Adrenal Fatigue
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Does anyone have a shower filter worth recommending? ... I suspect that my current one isn’t as effective as I had hoped at blocking copper; if this hunch turns out to be true it could mean an end to my chronic illness so help is much appreciated [End]
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- Re: Need a copper blocking shower filter
by Faith110
38 days
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Which filter do you have? I have a sprite high output, plus a sprite showerhead. I figure double filtration will ensure that the water is totally clean. [End]
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by overtheedge
38 days
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It has been over a year since I bought the last filter so I couldn’t tell you what type it is, all the more reason to buy a new one huh? ... ... Have you seen any improvements since installing the filters, some reason to believe that it is doing what it is supposed to ... ... [End]
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by Faith110
37 days
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I definitely notice a difference in my skin (much less dry, and more soft), and with my hair too. My hair is so much more softer and healthier than it was pre-filter. I also notice the smell of the water...there is no smell at all where the plain tap water had a very distinct smell. So I assume it is doing its job. I never put tap water on my body anymore. I wear gloves when I was dishes in the regular faucet, and I wash and cook (if needed) all my food with the filtered water from the shower. I notice that my steamed and boiled veggies taste much better when coked with the filtered water ...
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by overtheedge
34 days
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Hmm, this sprite model should remove copper according to the first review(which contains a detailed description of the product( ... http://www.amazon.com/Sprite-HO-WH-Output-Shower-Filter/dp/B0009WXRBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366671839&sr=8-1&keywords=sprite+shower+filter ... ... what model are you using and are you using the shower head that came with it or some other model [End]
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- Re: Need a copper blocking shower filter
by Faith110
31 days
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That is the same filter I have. I also have this one: ... ... http://www.amazon.com/Sprite-S1ARS5CT-Chlorine-Removing-Adjustable/dp/B000FZ2NZK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1366929461&sr=8-3&keywords=sprite+royale+shower+filter ... ... I use them both together. Only pet peeve I have is that the combo isn’t every adjustable and gets difficult if you are tall. I’m 5’10 so I have to crouch a little to get the top of my head under the water. But it’s worth it to me to know I am getting good clean water. [End]
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- Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by dave505
45 days
474
Candida Support
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/ Adrenal Fa
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I was wondering if anyone tried dr. James Wilson approach - just start reading his book? There are many things that sounds logical diet lifestyle etc ... ... but I’m wondering if their products are really targeted on diff stage of AF. I’m talking mainly about glandulars or mixed adrenal support. Many of us being too low had not so good experience with glandulars and stimulants - I did not take them yet. ... ... Also I was wondering about CaMg supplementation they propose as I’ve had hard times supplimentimg them and read several times that bacteria or even candida can use this minerals to build bi ...
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by ericbakker
45 days
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Hi Dave, ... ... It just so happens that I introduced Dr. Wilson into Australia and NZ in 2007. I’ve used his protocol on over 5,000 patients in my clinic and can emphatically say ”YES” ths protocol works. You will find some of my articles on his adrenalfatigue.org site. The Adrenal Rebuilder (AR) is a phenomenal product, and so is his Super Adrenal Stress Formula. Dr. Wilson understands glandular therapy, and his AR is the only porcine glandular to incorporate hypothalamus, pituitary and adrenal cortex glandular tissue. He has had the medula removed, which ensures that there is NO epinephrine ...
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by hawskfan9325
45 days
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I have and they didn’t do anything for me. How bad is your AF? They contain lots of very stimulating ingredients like ashwagandha, licorice, and of course they are glandulars. I think these products made me worse to be honest. Be careful with them. [End]
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by Ruffneck
44 days
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I didnt think ashwagadha and licorice were counted as stimulatory - glandulars i agree though can cause damage. [End]
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by ericbakker
44 days
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?? Ashwaghanda very stimulating? It is one of the most profoundly adaptogenic of the Ayurvedic herbs and possible the gentlest of the ginsengs I’ve used in my herbal clinic. It is perfect for helping feeble, weak folks back on their feet, and suits many women for example who have just had a child to rebuild their health. ... ... Glandulars have been used for centuries to help folks recover from many endocrine dysfunctions, they don’t ”stimulate” but rather nurture a person’s endocrine glands. ... ... I’m sorry to hear they didn’t work for you. Perhaps your doc who prescribed them for you wasn’t re ...
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by feo66
45 days
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I tried it a few times. I have been on this adrenal fatigue forum for several years and have never seen anyone say the protocol is working for them (at least not anyone that I have seen around the forums for a while). ... ... [End]
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by ericbakker
44 days
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Funny that, most all patients I have worked with with the AF Program say the opposite. You may like to check out this link, it is typical of a patient who took Dr. Wilson’s AF Program - the correct way. Here you see me talking about a lady who has fully recovered, she was taking antidepresants, sleeping pills, had chronic fatigue syndrome and was going nowhere fast. ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0PgvFhnePU ... ... Just like any treatment program a patient may undertake, it is easy to blame the program, when in fact it was either not applied correctly, was inappropriate for the person’s need ...
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by ring5100
44 days
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I think that is right. ... ... And on the other hand, if one’s body is in a toxic state or having liver/tolerance issues/ very weak metabolism ... ( as I have) the body can’t tolerate even to much of a good thing at this time. ... A healthy body can handle just about anything. ... ... Assimilation, tolerance, toxicity can be some factors as to why even good supplements are backfiring. ... ... I find this interesting. As when I was in a more mild to moderate adrenal fatigue and seeing a naturopathic dr. the standard protocal worked well for me, as my body was strong enough to handle it. BUt, seems now, ( t ...
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by feo66
43 days
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Let me state it differently. Other than people promoting themselves....I’ve never seen anyone on these forums saying the protocol works. ... ... And by anyone, I mean actual people suffering from Adrenal Fatigue, and participating on these forums, trying various protocols. ... ... Surely out of all the people that I have seen cycle through this forum over the years, I would have seen a few people claiming the protocol is helping them. ... ... Unless they are all crappy tradesmen ... [End]
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by Klauss
45 days
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Dr.wilson’s protocol helped me for awhile. It brought me to a next level and then it stopped. It did not help anymore. At that moment i switched to Dr.Lam. ... ... Klauss. [End]
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by hawskfan9325
44 days
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Here is what Dr Lam has to say about all these. ... ... 1. Licorice Root ... ... Licorice (Glycyrrhiza glabra and Glycyrrhiza uralensis) is grown in Europe and Asia. Licorice is a highly prized Chinese medicine. It is used in almost all of the Chinese patented herbal formulas. Licorice is the most well known herb for adrenal support. It is an anti-stress herb known to increase energy, endurance, and vitality and act as a mild tonic. Licorice is known to naturally fortify cortisone levels and it has been used to help decrease symptoms of hypoglycemia, a common side effect of decreased adrenal functi ...
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- Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol?
by ericbakker
44 days
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Dr. Lam may want to become a student of Dr. Wilson, he will then learn about the correct use of adaptogenic herbs in AF. Dr. Wilson was talking about AF long before it was even called that, he came up with the phrase ”adrenal fatigue” in the 90’s, and is the world’s expert in this topic. Lam calls himself an ”expert”, but his protocols and AF formulations haven’t a patch on Dr. Wilson’s original studies spanning back over 35 years. I have no doubt that Lam has his successes, but the person who needs credit where credit is due to bringing AF to the attention on medicine is Dr. Wilson. The d ...
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by hawskfan9325
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Dr Jeffries really deserves all the credit honestly. He found that physiological doses of Cortef can be used safely to treat weakened adrenals. I prefer that over a bunch of supplements by a Chiropractor. Lam is nothing great either, his protocol is very narrow minded too, doesn’t take into account nutrition at all. [End]
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by HypoglyNOTHypochon
44 days
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oh reallllly!? cortef huh.for low cortisol right? ill search it on here, but, can you tell me how it would be safe? the fear is; the body relaxing and not producing its own cortisol after supplementing with such a product. [End]
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by hawskfan9325
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A physiological dose is under 30 mgs a day, not anymore than healthy adrenals would produce on their own. I would never recommend just trying 5 or 10 mg’s as that can do more damage it appears. It’s sort of like an all or nothing proposition. Either a full physiological dose, or nothing. Google ”Jeffries safe uses of cortisol”. I am gonna be going on that very soon. The problem with AF is that supplementing is just too difficult, and most don’t tolerate supplements anyways, if they have a bad stage of AF, as most on here do. If you can find the right supplement mix, by all means try that f ...
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by ericbakker
44 days
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How on earth can a pharmaceutically produced corticosteroid have any benefit for human health is beyond belief. The adrenals make cortisone daily, equivalent to 10mg hydrocortisone. Giving this stuff to somebody is ”replacement” therapy, is no different than giving progesterone or estrogen therapy.You end up in trouble, but feel good initially. When you extend hormonal credit long enough to somebody they eventually hang themselves. The side-effects long term with any hormone replacement therapy are not worth the effort. But in saying that, short term cortef therapy has it place to wean pat ...
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by ring5100
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And how are you doing on Lam’s protocal now? ... ... Paulette [End]
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by amber1921
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This thread got way more interesting than I originally thought ... ... Where is the contradiction between Dr.Lam’s protocol and Dr.Wilson’s? ... ... Lam isn’t against the use of glandulars or adaptogens in general. He just says not to jump on them right away when your body is in a very weakened state. That’s why he differentiates between his line of defense tools as he calls then. ... ... You might start with Lam’s program and then continue with Wilson’s, right? ... And who cares about who takes all the credit as long as we get better. There can’t be just only one guy who is 100% right. In fact there should ...
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by dave505
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How about that amber?:) ... ”This thread got way more interesting than I originally thought” ... ... I’ve read all the messages and believe me I really don’t know what to write to people who were so kind to share their experience or expertise or emotions. ... ... When personal experience is involved I guess any people get emotional ...my second thought although is everybody share their ways/opinion/ expertise trying to help and this thought makes me chill out from my first emotional reaction. :) ... ... Coming back to my question :) have you tried his protocol? Some said it misses the last stage of AF bei ...
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by hawskfan9325
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Try them man. I can’t speak for you, only my personal experience. The company offers no support at all, so you are on your own. That was my mistake. I followed his instructions based on my saliva results and got worse. Have you done a saliva test? ZRT is the most reliable. $109 [End]
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- Dieoff/Herx from Treating Adrenal Fatigue
by acrosstheveil
46 days
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i have lyme and adrenal fatigue. I have been taking antimicrobials for a long time but have recently hit a wall in my treatment. I realized my adrenals are in terrible shape so I have begun to take some supplements geared towards rebuilding the adrenals. ... ... I am taking StressCare by Himalayan Herbal healthcare, profound essence by dragon herbs, and adrenal cortex by thorne research. ... ... I have been having heart palpitations and swollen lymph nodes since beginning the supplements. I also have a pressure inside my head. I have experienced all these symptoms before when herxing from lyme ...
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by acrosstheveil
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wow, i feel terrible!!! i feel like this ”stresscare” formula has sugar in it or something. or maybe it is just boosting my adrenals so well that my immune system is ramping up? ... ... wish there was an easier way to find out considering I have to work in the morning. [End]
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by Ruffneck
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this does not sound good, personally i think you should stop taking the supplement [End]
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by Ruffneck
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BTW i am almost certain the sole supp you are having issues with (kidney pain) is the adrenal cortex.I was on cortex for a week about a month ago and had strong kidney pain even after cutting the dose in half.I am still trying to recover to where i was before taking it. [End]
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- NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ?
by yoe91
48 days
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Hey forum, haven’t written here in a while. ... This month marks my official first entire year of NB. Enemas started in August (2012) though. ... ... I know it is constantly repeated that NB takes a long time, but I must say, I’ve had AF for a total of 7 years now, and the only pattern has been a constant slide. Every day I’ve felt worse than the previous, with certain periods more obvious than others. ... Like this past month, I feel NOTICEABLY more tired than the previous day, it’s crazy I don’t know when this will end. I feel like I’m already at a threshold, ready to pass out, and I ’know’ tomorro ...
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by hawskfan9325
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Man. How bad was your AF before you started NB? For severe AF I would never recommend NB. Too many uneducated practitioners. Do they have you on glandulars? Coffee Enemas can disrupt electrolyte balance too, and intestinal flora. BE Careful. [End]
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by yoe91
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hawskfan9325, SB1108, SeattleK, thanks for your replies guys. ... ... But how can you be so sure NB isn’t the whole picture ? ... It sounds naive, but I’d rather trust the docs. Dr. Wilson seems to be crazy knowledgeable and have tremendous common sense/be greatly scientific-minded. ... ... My AF is very bad now, yes. I can barely talk throughout the day, and it’s difficult at night now even. But I still can go beyond myself. ... ... *What are glandulars ? ... *I do coffee enemas yes, and I feel fkn EXHAUSTED after doing them. Maybe it’s the hour at which I do them, I get tired around 6pm usually anyways... ... ...
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by SeattleK
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Glandulars are like hormones (parathyroid, thymus, bovine etc.) They can give you quite a pick-me-up, but some of us cannot tolerate it. ... ... Well it takes time to trial run the supplements. At best you will only get a correlation. But, if your health is stable (feeling the same for 4-5 days in a row+), you can add or subtract a supplement and see if you feel significantly different for the next 3-4 days, then repeat. This is not rigorous science, but the best we can do. It is tough, because often in NB you feel worse before you feel better. Hope this has helped. ... ... NB helped me immensely ...
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by SB1108
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I’ve had CFS since late 2009... and like you said, I still can’t fall asleep before 2:30 or wake up before 10:30. ... ... I’ve been doing NB for over one year (like one year and two months). I have definitely made improvements but I have some symptoms that just wont go away (i.e. the fatigue and hypoglycemia). I think NB helps with a major side effect of CFS - malabsorption. My hair isn’t falling out anymore, my finger nails look normal, my muscle pain has been greatly reduced, and even my stomach pain has lessened. ... ... But there is definitely something missing - Before I went on NB, my fatigue ...
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by SeattleK
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In short, yes, there were times I felt much worse before I felt better. It did not take me a year though. ... ... Careful of glandulars, and of electrolytes (like Hawksfan said) if your doing CE’s. ... ... And remember that NB is not an ALL encompassing plan even if they sell it that way, many of us have gotten a boost by focusing on the gut in addition to NB (candida, parasites etc.) I don’t know if this applies to you, but you might think about it you need to add another component. It might be a worthwhile exercise to eliminate 1 supplement for a week, see how you feel, add it back, then eliminat ...
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by thelaughingdogs
45 days
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Sorry I am not doing NB but have been copper detoxing for the past two years with extreme improvement. I have dumped a ton of copper but unfortunately detoxing takes all of of your energy and that what maybe causing your fatigue. And by the way masturbation uses lot of energy too. ... ... It’s taking me a long time to detox because I didn’t want to do it all at once because I wanted to function. I tried to do cycles as much I could but sometimes once your body starts detoxing it won’t stop because that what it needs to do. Anyway after each detox cycle I was so fatigued but was also feeling mor ...
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by yoe91
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sorry, didn’t think anybody replied to that... ... I just feel worse by the day, a lot worse when I wake up past 11am...if I wake up around 10/10:30 i’m relatively much better but it’s so hard. ... ... Thx for the kind help ! [End]
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