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  • jfk by amber1921   26 h  45  Adrenal Fatigue / Addison’s / CFS, ME, C
     
    When I think that JFK had Addison’s and became president it makes me feel better. ... ... How did he do that?...   [End]
    • Re: jfk by Marie64   26 h  47
       
      HI Amber, ... ... What I understand with JFK through other group I have been on for support of Addison’s Disease. I heard he was given high doses of hydrocortisone throughout the day to keep him going. Plus he had the care of Dr’s right by his side day and night. I beleive he was given injections. But since then they realized that high dose is not good for the body. Sadly he did not live long enough to see what the results of his other health would have been from such high doses. ... ... I have found for myself over the past 4 years I need to listen to the body and blood pressure. My normal bl ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: jfk by wiredgeneration   25 h  35
         
        I would be interested to hear his story as how he managed the campaign trail to get to present as he probably woukdnt of had all the specialist care when he was just a ’normal’ person.. What a legend to do it though, but yeah Marie you are right about what the after effects of high dose hc would of looked like   [End]
        • Re: jfk by amber1921   24 h  34
           
          I was wondering about that sort of thing too... ... What about the time before he even became a senator?... ... How did he even come up with the idea of going into politics in the first place? ... Where did all that ambition and motivation come from?... ... ... Really interesting...   [End]
          • Re: jfk by Marie64   17 h  37
             
            http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/g35.htm ... ... This is not the one I origanlly saw still searching...but this one is interesting. ... ... Marie   [End]
  • Awesome Success story blog by hawskfan9325   4 days  130  Adrenal Fatigue / Depression / Anxiety / 4 / 5
     
    http://misslizzy.me/blog/ ... ... Check this chick out. Cured her AF with HC, successfully weaned off, and now does hardcore strength training at 40 yrs old! ... ... I’m next, who’s with me? This thing is treatable guys. Focus hard on finding a good doc! I got my appointment tomorrow. If you are in Illinois, pm me.   [End]
  • Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration   7 days  149  Adrenal Fatigue / CFS, ME, C
     
    As many of you know, I am in the depths of hell from a cold turkey benzo withdrawal. Talking to people and reading stories on various benzo survival forums, the effects of a withdrawal mimic adrenal Fatigue and CFS almost to the tee. So benzo withdrawal, and tolerance withdrawal, due to the high state of stress it puts the body into, can cause AF. ... ... I was also warranted to ’kindling’ by my doctor, a process of trying many hypnotic drugs to make me sleep, and each drug causing neurological changes in its own withdrawal..so over two years and around 15 different drugs, you get the picture! ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by #155216   7 days  115
       
      take some gaba   [End]
      • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration   7 days  109
         
        Unfortuantely dosent quite work like that but thanks for your detailed and highly educated suggestion my old friend   [End]
        • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by #155216   7 days  106
           
          why can’t you take gaba? ... ...   [End]
          • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by amber1921   7 days  105
             
            GABA supplements don’t work if taken orally. ... ... Might work sublingually but very ineffective anyway. ... ... You have to train your body to produce more GABA but it takes time and concentrated effort.   [End]
            • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by #155216   7 days  106
               
              I have taken gaba before orally and it worked fine. ... ...   [End]
              • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration   7 days  96
                 
                Worked fine? are you fit and well after taking it? did it just cover up the potential problem. ... ... If there is an inbalance, this can (and is in medication victims) be down to the gaba receptors in ones brain that have regressed as the brain thought they were no longer needed (because the benzos created all the gaba needed and then some). So the body and brain, as Amber said, needs to be coerced into regrowing the receptors.   [End]
                • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by omo   6 days  61
                   
                  Maybe you’re talking about downregulation? That’s when cells reduce the amount of something, for example receptors to signalling chemicals. If you overstimulate receptors like GABA receptors, they’ll get downregulated. ... ... If you feel you’re low on GABA receptors, you’re probably looking for a way to upregulate them.   [End]
                  • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by wiredgeneration   6 days  65
                     
                    Yes thats it, benzo medication does this , and is the cause of half the withdrawal symptoms in benzo wd, but it makes sense that this can happen due to stress, insomnia etc hence why people might end up on benzos. ... ... Its a piece of the af puzzle that i haven’t heard much talk about, it makes sense in my case   [End]
        • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by hawskfan9325   7 days  104
           
          lmfao!   [End]
    • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by amber1921   6 days  78
       
      Hey, Mikey ... ... It’s a really informative link that you posted. I’ve been reading this all day yesterday - my information processing is too slow:) ... ... The theory of neuroinflammation being the cause of CFS is very interesting and plausible. It provides deeper understanding of the etiology of AF as well. Glutamate/GABA imbalance gives rise to generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, OCD and sets off the chain reaction down the HPA axis involving the multiple compensatory mechanisms that the body has developed to adapt to the constant signal of arousal. It’s like stress that goes on continuously on ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Ever thought about Glutamate? by Craig1129   6 days  68
       
      That’s a very informative article. ... ... Would it be fair to summarize it all as saying this is a closer look at the physiology of being stuck in a freeze/fight or flight state? Would you guys be open to that possibility without currently understanding exactly how? ... ... The most important part: ... ... ”If such a vicious cycle of glutamate excitotoxicity, oxidative stress, and mitochondrial dysfunction does indeed underpin ME/CFS pathology, it may not be clear where exactly the root problem lies.” ... ... I’m sounding like a broken record, but at this point in time there is not a clear consensus among ...   [retrieve this message]
  • What is the best way to test for electrolyte imbalance? by amber1921   7 days  117  Adrenal Fatigue / Addison’s / CFS, ME, C / 4
     
    Hair mineral analysis or a blood test? ... ... My insurance is based in another state so I’ll have to pay out of pocket for either of them. Really hate to do both... ... ... And how can you test aldosterone levels?   [End]
  • What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by amber1921   7 days  155  Adrenal Fatigue / CFS, ME, C / Salt / 4 / 5
     
    I recently found out that it’s possible to get water retention when your sodium is low. It’s called euvolemic hyponatremia and it’s due to the secretion of a hormone called vasopressin or ADH (antidiuretic hormone). ... ... Last weekend I was getting puffy and bloated, so I thought I might be eating too much salt and stopped drinking water with sea salt every morning. After two or three days I got even more bloated and puffy everywhere, extremely tired, restless, slightly nauseous, started having pain in all the joints, muscles and bones (especially below the knee), got so confused and disorien ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by wiredgeneration   7 days  119
       
      talk to Faith Amber, she cured herself of RSWS   [End]
    • Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by saywhatagain   7 days  103
       
      Just spoke to my ayurvedic doctor today, he said for me about 3/4 of a teaspoon a day of high quality natural salt is a good amount, don’t know if that would be different for other people. This is approximately what I have been eating anyway and I have never felt like I needed any more than this.   [End]
      • Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by Marie64   7 days  124
         
        Hi Amber, ... ... I had the same issue with the sodium loss. I would actually puff up more then I did when I used salt. I had major issues with sodium loss. I am diagnosed with Addison’s disease as well as the sodium loss. ... ... If you find your sea salt is not working you may want to try Hawaiian Bamboo Jade Sea Salt. I have been able to stabilize my sodium since ridding my body af aluminum. ... ... To test for aldesterone is through a blood test. But the best way I feel to check your cortisol level is a 24 hour saliva test. ... ... Here are the symptoms I had from mild to extreme...extreme was after ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by Craig1129   6 days  92
           
          Marie I don’t know how much weight you put into what I say but I’m going to butt in and say I’ve felt for a long time reading your posts that you’ve been given a lot of bad advice. ... ... I don’t want this to seem like I’m minimizing what you’re going through, but I think it’s very likely you’ve never had Addison’s. If the person that diagnosed you with Addison’s is the same person that said all those symptoms are due to sodium loss (sodium loss is not a cause), I’d be very suspicious of seeing this person again. Just my (unsolicited) opinion..   [End]
          • Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by Craig1129   6 days  86
             
            I didn’t really say what I meant to say. I think Addison’s disease is something that is going to be obsolete when doctor’s have a better understanding of what we are all going through. I think you are just like the rest of us. ... ... *I don’t know why I’m double posting instead of editing. I’ll blame the brain fog.   [End]
        • Re: What symptoms do you get from salt wasting? by omo   6 days  90
           
          Please note that your message is not in reply to amber192. You replied to saywhatagain’s message instead. ... ... Each message has its own reply link.   [End]
  • Does anyone else feel MUCH worse when it's NEW MOON? by amber1921   9 days  94  Adrenal Fatigue / CFS, ME, C / Anxiety / 4
     
    I know it sounds kinda strange but I’m super serious. ... ... I’ve been watching myself crash really bad every month on a specific day when it’s new moon. At first I thought it was a funny coincidence that my wellbeing directly correlates with the moon cycle like that but it’s been going on for 10 months without fail. ... ... Did anyone notice that they feel worse on this particular day? ... Is there anything substantial behind this? ... Or am I just a lunatic?   [End]
  • Our personal medical information made public by #155325   14 days  83  CFS, ME, CFIDS / Anxiety / Arthritis: / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    People with chronic fatigue might have to deal with this: ... ... http://www.change.org/petitions/us-federal-court-stop-violating-hipaa-law   [End]
  • Can someone help me understand my stool culture results? by carojilie   14 days  134  Leaky Gut / Bowel Clea / CFS, ME, C / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Hi, ... ... Recently I have had a stool test done which shows if you have candidas, leaky gut, malabsorption, bacterias, Immunology through IgAs etc. ... ... I have had a background of chronic disorders-CFS (EBV, CMV), hashimoto, IBS etc. ... ... Everything was normal except for very low lactobacillus spp and enteroccocus so I have to supplement on them and then my Iga are way too high and it just says my immune system is stimulated. ... ... But what does that mean? why do I have low lactobacillus and what do high Iga mean? ... ... My doc cant really answer these questions.. ... ... I have to point out that for a long ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Can someone help me understand my stool culture results? by linenup   14 days  101
       
      Probably the main concern is the high iGa which is a fuzzy sign - which means it can be a couple of different things, I would suspect parasites as being a cause - tests for parasites are notoriously inaccurate according to many professionals - http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html   [End]
    • Re: Can someone help me understand my stool culture results? by linenup   13 days  110
       
      Probably the main concern is the high iGa which is a fuzzy sign - which means it can be a couple of different things, I would suspect parasites as being a cause - tests for parasites are notoriously inaccurate according to many professionals - http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html ... ... Lacto species are typically found in the small intestine while bifidus species are in the large intestine - I would suspect this is not as a big issue as the high iga. ... ... Info on sIgA http://pptu.lefora.com/2011/08/20/secretory-iga-siga/   [End]
      • Re: Can someone help me understand my stool culture results? by carojilie   8 days  56
         
        thank you Linup, sorry I only see your reply now. ... So the high Iga is not a good sign? can you tell me, other than parasites, what it can mean? I have found a doc but have to wait until July. ... ... The normal range was 510-2040 and I’m 2422 which doesnt seem that high, not sure. ... ... I don’t know about parasites, many say it’s BS that only in the third world you find this problem. I have had many parasite cleanses and back then I thought I expelled some but how can I know if they were parasites and not mucus. ... ... anyway thanks for your help!   [End]
  • AF and WAKING UP LATE by yoe91   21 days  222  Adrenal Fatigue / Sleep Diso / CFS, ME, C / 4
     
    I don’t mean to crowd the forum with my posts, but I am in an actual crisis these days I’m GONNA DIEEEEE AAAAAARRGHHH !!! ... Srsly though, I’m freaking dying here ! ;) ... ... Out of everything I’ve ever tried, and ever since the AF got really severe (about the 6th year into my 7 years), ND’s and my NB practitioner have told me to stop this, that, do this, do that...but the ONLY thing that’s ever ACTUALLY made me *FEEL* any different, like tangibly, really - is sleep. ... ... - I know I shouldn’t masturbate this often and it’s a constant battle in my mind I’m never relaxed doing it. And though I feel ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE by thelaughingdogs   19 days  156
       
      It’s kinda a common personality trait with AF to know you should go to sleep but don’t. We have a tendency to want to stay up late and fill our days with task we need to do. Part of it comes from anxiety too. The fight or flight response keeps you alert and especially at night. ... ... Believe me I have felt the need to get myself in bed by 9 but it always ends up being twelve. Your also right in that your body needs lots of sleep to repair it’s self. But you can catch up on lost sleep to a degree. I know being able to get more sleep has healed my body more. It always your adrenals time to r ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE by yoe91   18 days  119
         
        thanks dog...can I call you ”dog” ? As in Adrenal Fatigue homie ? ah never mind. ... ... Thanks for the reply. It’s soooo strange, some ppl have complained about this, but I’ve yet to exactly understand just how physical it is, versus how much of a mental weakness from my part it is... ... Some times, I’m in bed almost ready to turn the light off, and just then, at about 1am, I feel like I NEED to listen to a specific song or band...and I jam the stuff, and start looking at pictures and remembering old times or stuff; almost like it’s stuff I need to do at that time only. ... ... Straaaaange... ... Would ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE by thelaughingdogs   18 days  129
           
          Lol, well dog would not be my first choice for a CZ AF homie name. :) ... ... Here I am typing this when I really should be on my way to getting some shut eye. AF people tend to be workaholics. I am more projectaholic, but then I tend to have ADD never completing anything and jumping into the next thing to do. Then I tend to get obsessed with things like healing forums. On my way to getting sick I was staying up till 2am reading.   [End]
          • Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE by yoe91   15 days  103
             
            ..coz ”thelaughingdogs” is just too long to type each time ! ... ... Yeh well I know exactly what you mean of course, staying up for that mysterious reason...like you couldn’t do all that stuff before during the day right ?! (well actually...I CAN’T !) but that’s still not the point... ... ... And yeh, I’ll tend to start a project and then leave it, and it haunts me forever more because I wish I had the energy or motivation to finally finish it off...and then off to something else...you’re right, I’ve def. got that too... ... ... Well, good luck then dogg...I mean thelaughingdogs.   [End]
    • Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE by georgelove   14 days  88
       
      Have you tried looking in to holistic medicine? I dont claim to know anything about anything but- the symptoms youve described and maybe AF too, sounds very much like a vata condition as defined by Ayurveda. There are some articles on how pranayama can help AF. Meditation and yoga are miraculous in their healing abilities. They restore us to balance and can help us heal ourselves. Im not saying that they will cure any disease, but I claim that they will absolutely make the body and mind more fit to deal with whatever life brings. There are only beautiful success stories to hear about from ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: AF and WAKING UP LATE by yoe91   13 days  85
         
        well yoga ”doesn’t work with me”, not in the sense that it’s bull or anything just that I’ll do it for 2 weeks straight, really relax, put myself in uber-patience mode, and then I’ll just get incredibly frustrated over how little it does, and then I just see myself saying ”well what did I expect, it’s just laying there breathing in different positions !” ... ... I’m a hyperactive person to start with, and putting in so much effort into ”meditation” and seeing the obvious result I expected - nothing - is amazingly annoying and frustrating ! ... I’m just about done with it...though I’ll do deep br ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by yoe91   21 days  340  Adrenal Fatigue / Parasites / Brain Fog / 4
     
    Hey AF ppl, ... I’m the one who’s had AF for 7 years and never ever once started to feel any better...it’s been a constant slope since day 1 in July 2006. ... ... Anyways I’ve been on NB the past year, still feel like crap; but these days are my all-time low. I can’t speak at all at the table, my parents are looking at me like they pity me dearly and are actually WORRIED for the first time in the 7 years of struggle. My dad patted me on the back tonight, and I’m 26yo...it felt sooo weird...ANYWAYS ... ... I’m on Day 5 of the Parasite Cleanse today (3-item protocol, wormwood, black walnut, clovers + arg ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by SgtThom   21 days  261
       
      A typical response to this is that brain fog or other ”bad feelings” are from the die off of the parasites or toxic releases from their bodies. I’m not an expert on this through.   [End]
      • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by yoe91   21 days  244
         
        that’s what I’m thinking, but I still have no confirmation about actually having the suc***s in me..   [End]
        • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by h2olover   20 days  224
           
          I’m on my last day of Humaworm parasite cleanse and I’ve felt like I got hit by a bus the past 2 weeks. Flu like symptoms, muscle fatigue, and nausea. Yes, you are supposed to feel bad. Google Herx reaction, it’s completely normal and you will feel wonderful afterwards.   [End]
          • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by daizymae   20 days  208
             
            Now don’t quote me, but I have heard that Chinese medicine formulas for parasites are well balanced, ie, they are much less likely to produce bad reactions.   [End]
            • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by amy79   20 days  195
               
              If you had bad adrenal fatigue before starting this you probably also had a low sodium potassium ratio before starting and have made this worse with the stress on the adrenals from the cleanse. ... ... From experience I think low sodium potassium ratio is what causes most of peoples bad symptoms of adrenal fatigue. Try a low potassium diet for a while and stop taking supplements that lower sodium ie zinc, magnesium.   [End]
              • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by dave505   19 days  174
                 
                Amy this is interesting! ... Do you have any other information about supplements that lower sodium? It just happen I react very strange to magnesium no matter the form like I’m totally bedridden and blank mind. Did not find any reasonable explanation maybe this one is. ... ... The same with milk thistle but the opposite for zinc I get jittery from zinc. ... Please share if you know more ... Thanks   [End]
          • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by yoe91   19 days  165
             
            h2olover, this is going to sound really malicious and weird but I couldn’t be ’happier’ to read that comment of yours ! Surely you get me haha, I’m not glad you’ve felt like you’d been hit by a bus mind you; but rather that it is normal... ... ... I feel worse by the day, considerably, noticeably... ... ... amy79: ... I do take Zinc as it is, and magnesium most probably in at least one of my NB meds...thx for the tips !!! I’ll try that. ... ... Thanks to everybody else who replied. Without you (as corny as this sounds), I’d be DEAD...yes, literally.   [End]
            • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by onedaysoon   18 days  164
               
              yeo, ... I’m also doing NB since Nov 2011 and made very slow progress. My symptoms started with nausea, diarrhea, depression, anxiety and extreme fatigue. I suspected parasites from the start ( I travel and I also am in close daily contact with people from third world countries). All tests , which seemed to be useless, came up negative so I just assumed I was overworked and overstressed. ... ... A year later I wasn’t making much progress with my hair test and was still having some digestive complaints. My practitioner gave me an herbal concoction and a few weeks later I started passing worms. She ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: Does Parasite Cleansing feel terrible ? by yoe91   15 days  120
                 
                very, very insightful info in there for me Onwards, thanks a LOT. ... ... I’m being patient, as I’ve been these past 7 years of AF...I’m waiting for....well...stuff to happen ! Not jumping to conclusions, just sticking as closely to the NB treatment as I can...with ONLY that on my mind. ... ... I’ll post soon when my cleanse is about over and I’ve got results (or not..). I’m at Day 11 now.   [End]
  • Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by mattleecarter   28 days  263  Dr. Beck / CFS, ME, C / Alternativ / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    hey guys, ... ... I have been using all stages of the bob beck protocol ( with SOTA instruments ) for 7weeks to try bet my Chronic Fatigue syndrome I have been dealing with for 8months. ... ... Just need some help and support from anyone that has had success with it and If I should keep going. My goal is to do 4months. ... ... my protocol - 2hr minimum of Blood pulsing / Magnetic pulsing daily , drinking 1-2 L of ozone water and 250ml ( sometimes more on bad days ) of SOTA brewed colloidal silver w/ distilled water. ... ... Thanks!   [End]
    • Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by jaguar57   18 days  171
       
      Colloidal Silver can quickly accumulate in the body and then contribute to your chronic fatigue. I recommend discontinuing it. ... Chronic fatigue in itself means almost nothing because fatigue is a primary symptom of most diseases. You have to know the cause of it. If you have the viral type then it is more than fatigue, it feels like a mild form of the flu. That is what I had and here is a quick version of my story: ... I showed all the classical symptoms of CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome which is caused primarily by a virus such as Epstein Barr) since 1980 when I lived in ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by Hadasah   18 days  184
         
        ... I’m sorry, but I disagree with what you said about colloidal silver. Silver is only technically a ’heavy metal’. It’s actually a transitional metal, meaning that it doesn’t stay in the body for long. ... I have been using it for a long time with beautiful results for my lungs and any infections I’ve had, whether bacterial or viral. ... ... Here is what the EPA says about silver: ... ... According to the EPA IRIS Report on silver (Integrated Risk Information Systems, 5th page, 1st paragraph) it states that a number of tests were completed to test the absorption and retention of ingested silver in a n ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by jaguar57   11 days  98
           
          the following is from the same paper you refer to. Humans retain 4.4% of silver. ... ... The authors used the data from the dog to estimate how much silver ingested by a 70 kg human would be retained. An ”equilibrium factor” of 4.4% was determined by integrating from zero to infinity a retention equation which assumes a triphasic elimination pattern for silver with the initial elimination of 90% coming from the dog data. The first elimination half-time of 0.5 days was used ”arbitrarily”; subsequent half-times of 3.5 days and 41 days were taken from a metabolic study by Polachek et al. (1960). F ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Great INFO from Dr. Majid Ali by Rhonda410   28 days  237  Addison’s Disease / CFS, ME, C / Adrenal Fa / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    ... ... The Cushinoid-Addisonian Epidemic ... ... The core message of this brief essay on adrenal health and adrenal deficit is: All chronically dysoxic individuals suffer clinically significant adrenal dysfunction. Dysox is the state of disrupted oxygen signaling and oxygen-driven cellular energetics. This view of adrenal deficiency is significantly different from the prevailing thinking in endocrinology. Endocrinologists, with rare exception, continue to be preoccupied with named adrenal syndrome-Cushing’s syndrome, Addison’s disease, Conn’s syndrome, and Sheehan’s syndrome-as well as pituitary t ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Great INFO from Dr. Majid Ali by linenup   28 days  228
       
      Good post - Dr. Ali is a wise man. His book Canary and Chronic Fatigue is a good read. For me the issues were parasites which included worms but the most damaging are the protozoa. Leo Galland MD says to look at the gut for the problem (as in parasites) - my blog post about parasites http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/12/lessons-from-parasites.html ... ... **I should say that chronic infections, toxicity and malnutrition will create the adrenal fatigue ... ... http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/02/adrenal-fatigue.html ... ... http://patrickrambling-pb.blogspot.com/2012/11/hpa-axis.html   [retrieve this message]
  • Very simple yoga to start home practice by amber1921   31 days  277  Adrenal Fatigue / Depression / Anxiety / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    This post is intended for those who wants to begin yoga practice but doesn’t know where to start from. It contains an outline of what my yoga teacher gave me over the period of six months or so when I first met him. I remember being quite disappointed because it didn’t look like anything I typically saw online or when other people practiced it. It seemed way to basic and did not require almost any serious effort. What he emphasized the most were pranayama techniques especially the Alternate Nostril Breathing as the foundation for everything else. ... Modern yoga studios practice Ashtanga Viny ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Very simple yoga to start home practice by amber1921   31 days  214
       
      I reposting this from my other thread couple of weeks ago: ... ... The Alternate Nostril Breathing ... ... Hi, guys ... I hope this might be helpful in recovery ... ... You will need a metronome device that counts seconds for it to be effective. I have iPhone app called iBeat which is free and easy to use. ... ... The technique is based on abdominal deep breathing so I won’t explain that. ... ... The idea behind it is to breath with the left and the right nostril on the even count of seconds which helps to balance the ANS. ... In yoga they believe that have these two channels Ida and Pingala going along your spine ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Very simple yoga to start home practice by ring5100   31 days  203
       
      Thank you for sharing this. ... I will print it out to keep and go by. ... ... Paulette   [End]
    • Re: Very simple yoga to start home practice by Sherpa   27 days  131
       
      Thanks for your notes. ... ... Yoga was CRUCIAL, not optional, for my recovery progress. ... ... At home, I prefer doing yoga with a video. ... ... Lots of great yoga videos on YouTube (free) and GaiamTV ($10 per month).   [End]
  • Need a copper blocking shower filter by overtheedge   33 days  170  Adrenal Fatigue / Chelation: / CFS, ME, C
     
    Does anyone have a shower filter worth recommending? ... I suspect that my current one isn’t as effective as I had hoped at blocking copper; if this hunch turns out to be true it could mean an end to my chronic illness so help is much appreciated   [End]
    • Re: Need a copper blocking shower filter by Faith110   31 days  137
       
      Which filter do you have? I have a sprite high output, plus a sprite showerhead. I figure double filtration will ensure that the water is totally clean.   [End]
      • Re: Need a copper blocking shower filter by overtheedge   31 days  132
         
        It has been over a year since I bought the last filter so I couldn’t tell you what type it is, all the more reason to buy a new one huh? ... ... Have you seen any improvements since installing the filters, some reason to believe that it is doing what it is supposed to ... ...   [End]
        • Re: Need a copper blocking shower filter by Faith110   30 days  125
           
          I definitely notice a difference in my skin (much less dry, and more soft), and with my hair too. My hair is so much more softer and healthier than it was pre-filter. I also notice the smell of the water...there is no smell at all where the plain tap water had a very distinct smell. So I assume it is doing its job. I never put tap water on my body anymore. I wear gloves when I was dishes in the regular faucet, and I wash and cook (if needed) all my food with the filtered water from the shower. I notice that my steamed and boiled veggies taste much better when coked with the filtered water ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Need a copper blocking shower filter by overtheedge   27 days  100
             
            Hmm, this sprite model should remove copper according to the first review(which contains a detailed description of the product( ... http://www.amazon.com/Sprite-HO-WH-Output-Shower-Filter/dp/B0009WXRBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366671839&sr=8-1&keywords=sprite+shower+filter ... ... what model are you using and are you using the shower head that came with it or some other model   [End]
            • Re: Need a copper blocking shower filter by Faith110   24 days  106
               
              That is the same filter I have. I also have this one: ... ... http://www.amazon.com/Sprite-S1ARS5CT-Chlorine-Removing-Adjustable/dp/B000FZ2NZK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1366929461&sr=8-3&keywords=sprite+royale+shower+filter ... ... I use them both together. Only pet peeve I have is that the combo isn’t every adjustable and gets difficult if you are tall. I’m 5’10 so I have to crouch a little to get the top of my head under the water. But it’s worth it to me to know I am getting good clean water.   [End]
  • Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by dave505   38 days  453  Candida Support / CFS, ME, C / Adrenal Fa
     
    I was wondering if anyone tried dr. James Wilson approach - just start reading his book? There are many things that sounds logical diet lifestyle etc ... ... but I’m wondering if their products are really targeted on diff stage of AF. I’m talking mainly about glandulars or mixed adrenal support. Many of us being too low had not so good experience with glandulars and stimulants - I did not take them yet. ... ... Also I was wondering about CaMg supplementation they propose as I’ve had hard times supplimentimg them and read several times that bacteria or even candida can use this minerals to build bi ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by ericbakker   38 days  429
       
      Hi Dave, ... ... It just so happens that I introduced Dr. Wilson into Australia and NZ in 2007. I’ve used his protocol on over 5,000 patients in my clinic and can emphatically say ”YES” ths protocol works. You will find some of my articles on his adrenalfatigue.org site. The Adrenal Rebuilder (AR) is a phenomenal product, and so is his Super Adrenal Stress Formula. Dr. Wilson understands glandular therapy, and his AR is the only porcine glandular to incorporate hypothalamus, pituitary and adrenal cortex glandular tissue. He has had the medula removed, which ensures that there is NO epinephrine ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by hawskfan9325   38 days  328
         
        I have and they didn’t do anything for me. How bad is your AF? They contain lots of very stimulating ingredients like ashwagandha, licorice, and of course they are glandulars. I think these products made me worse to be honest. Be careful with them.   [End]
        • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by Ruffneck   37 days  302
           
          I didnt think ashwagadha and licorice were counted as stimulatory - glandulars i agree though can cause damage.   [End]
        • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by ericbakker   37 days  299
           
          ?? Ashwaghanda very stimulating? It is one of the most profoundly adaptogenic of the Ayurvedic herbs and possible the gentlest of the ginsengs I’ve used in my herbal clinic. It is perfect for helping feeble, weak folks back on their feet, and suits many women for example who have just had a child to rebuild their health. ... ... Glandulars have been used for centuries to help folks recover from many endocrine dysfunctions, they don’t ”stimulate” but rather nurture a person’s endocrine glands. ... ... I’m sorry to hear they didn’t work for you. Perhaps your doc who prescribed them for you wasn’t re ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by feo66   38 days  319
       
      I tried it a few times. I have been on this adrenal fatigue forum for several years and have never seen anyone say the protocol is working for them (at least not anyone that I have seen around the forums for a while). ... ...   [End]
      • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by ericbakker   37 days  319
         
        Funny that, most all patients I have worked with with the AF Program say the opposite. You may like to check out this link, it is typical of a patient who took Dr. Wilson’s AF Program - the correct way. Here you see me talking about a lady who has fully recovered, she was taking antidepresants, sleeping pills, had chronic fatigue syndrome and was going nowhere fast. ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0PgvFhnePU ... ... Just like any treatment program a patient may undertake, it is easy to blame the program, when in fact it was either not applied correctly, was inappropriate for the person’s need ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by ring5100   37 days  280
           
          I think that is right. ... ... And on the other hand, if one’s body is in a toxic state or having liver/tolerance issues/ very weak metabolism ... ( as I have) the body can’t tolerate even to much of a good thing at this time. ... A healthy body can handle just about anything. ... ... Assimilation, tolerance, toxicity can be some factors as to why even good supplements are backfiring. ... ... I find this interesting. As when I was in a more mild to moderate adrenal fatigue and seeing a naturopathic dr. the standard protocal worked well for me, as my body was strong enough to handle it. BUt, seems now, ( t ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by feo66   36 days  241
           
          Let me state it differently. Other than people promoting themselves....I’ve never seen anyone on these forums saying the protocol works. ... ... And by anyone, I mean actual people suffering from Adrenal Fatigue, and participating on these forums, trying various protocols. ... ... Surely out of all the people that I have seen cycle through this forum over the years, I would have seen a few people claiming the protocol is helping them. ... ... Unless they are all crappy tradesmen ...   [End]
    • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by Klauss   38 days  322
       
      Dr.wilson’s protocol helped me for awhile. It brought me to a next level and then it stopped. It did not help anymore. At that moment i switched to Dr.Lam. ... ... Klauss.   [End]
      • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by hawskfan9325   37 days  289
         
        Here is what Dr Lam has to say about all these. ... ... 1. Licorice Root ... ... Licorice (Glycyrrhiza glabra and Glycyrrhiza uralensis) is grown in Europe and Asia. Licorice is a highly prized Chinese medicine. It is used in almost all of the Chinese patented herbal formulas. Licorice is the most well known herb for adrenal support. It is an anti-stress herb known to increase energy, endurance, and vitality and act as a mild tonic. Licorice is known to naturally fortify cortisone levels and it has been used to help decrease symptoms of hypoglycemia, a common side effect of decreased adrenal functi ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by ericbakker   37 days  269
           
          Dr. Lam may want to become a student of Dr. Wilson, he will then learn about the correct use of adaptogenic herbs in AF. Dr. Wilson was talking about AF long before it was even called that, he came up with the phrase ”adrenal fatigue” in the 90’s, and is the world’s expert in this topic. Lam calls himself an ”expert”, but his protocols and AF formulations haven’t a patch on Dr. Wilson’s original studies spanning back over 35 years. I have no doubt that Lam has his successes, but the person who needs credit where credit is due to bringing AF to the attention on medicine is Dr. Wilson. The d ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by hawskfan9325   37 days  259
             
            Dr Jeffries really deserves all the credit honestly. He found that physiological doses of Cortef can be used safely to treat weakened adrenals. I prefer that over a bunch of supplements by a Chiropractor. Lam is nothing great either, his protocol is very narrow minded too, doesn’t take into account nutrition at all.   [End]
            • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by HypoglyNOTHypochon   37 days  262
               
              oh reallllly!? cortef huh.for low cortisol right? ill search it on here, but, can you tell me how it would be safe? the fear is; the body relaxing and not producing its own cortisol after supplementing with such a product.   [End]
              • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by hawskfan9325   37 days  258
                 
                A physiological dose is under 30 mgs a day, not anymore than healthy adrenals would produce on their own. I would never recommend just trying 5 or 10 mg’s as that can do more damage it appears. It’s sort of like an all or nothing proposition. Either a full physiological dose, or nothing. Google ”Jeffries safe uses of cortisol”. I am gonna be going on that very soon. The problem with AF is that supplementing is just too difficult, and most don’t tolerate supplements anyways, if they have a bad stage of AF, as most on here do. If you can find the right supplement mix, by all means try that f ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by ericbakker   37 days  274
               
              How on earth can a pharmaceutically produced corticosteroid have any benefit for human health is beyond belief. The adrenals make cortisone daily, equivalent to 10mg hydrocortisone. Giving this stuff to somebody is ”replacement” therapy, is no different than giving progesterone or estrogen therapy.You end up in trouble, but feel good initially. When you extend hormonal credit long enough to somebody they eventually hang themselves. The side-effects long term with any hormone replacement therapy are not worth the effort. But in saying that, short term cortef therapy has it place to wean pat ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by ring5100   37 days  259
         
        And how are you doing on Lam’s protocal now? ... ... Paulette   [End]
    • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by amber1921   36 days  234
       
      This thread got way more interesting than I originally thought ... ... Where is the contradiction between Dr.Lam’s protocol and Dr.Wilson’s? ... ... Lam isn’t against the use of glandulars or adaptogens in general. He just says not to jump on them right away when your body is in a very weakened state. That’s why he differentiates between his line of defense tools as he calls then. ... ... You might start with Lam’s program and then continue with Wilson’s, right? ... And who cares about who takes all the credit as long as we get better. There can’t be just only one guy who is 100% right. In fact there should ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by dave505   36 days  232
         
        How about that amber?:) ... ”This thread got way more interesting than I originally thought” ... ... I’ve read all the messages and believe me I really don’t know what to write to people who were so kind to share their experience or expertise or emotions. ... ... When personal experience is involved I guess any people get emotional ...my second thought although is everybody share their ways/opinion/ expertise trying to help and this thought makes me chill out from my first emotional reaction. :) ... ... Coming back to my question :) have you tried his protocol? Some said it misses the last stage of AF bei ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Anyone tried dr.James Wilson protocol? by hawskfan9325   36 days  248
           
          Try them man. I can’t speak for you, only my personal experience. The company offers no support at all, so you are on your own. That was my mistake. I followed his instructions based on my saliva results and got worse. Have you done a saliva test? ZRT is the most reliable. $109   [End]
  • Dieoff/Herx from Treating Adrenal Fatigue by acrosstheveil   39 days  273  Adrenal Fatigue / Heart Palp / Lyme ("Lim / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    i have lyme and adrenal fatigue. I have been taking antimicrobials for a long time but have recently hit a wall in my treatment. I realized my adrenals are in terrible shape so I have begun to take some supplements geared towards rebuilding the adrenals. ... ... I am taking StressCare by Himalayan Herbal healthcare, profound essence by dragon herbs, and adrenal cortex by thorne research. ... ... I have been having heart palpitations and swollen lymph nodes since beginning the supplements. I also have a pressure inside my head. I have experienced all these symptoms before when herxing from lyme ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Dieoff/Herx from Treating Adrenal Fatigue by acrosstheveil   39 days  246
       
      wow, i feel terrible!!! i feel like this ”stresscare” formula has sugar in it or something. or maybe it is just boosting my adrenals so well that my immune system is ramping up? ... ... wish there was an easier way to find out considering I have to work in the morning.   [End]
    • Re: Dieoff/Herx from Treating Adrenal Fatigue by Ruffneck   38 days  209
       
      this does not sound good, personally i think you should stop taking the supplement   [End]
      • Re: Dieoff/Herx from Treating Adrenal Fatigue by Ruffneck   38 days  215
         
        BTW i am almost certain the sole supp you are having issues with (kidney pain) is the adrenal cortex.I was on cortex for a week about a month ago and had strong kidney pain even after cutting the dose in half.I am still trying to recover to where i was before taking it.   [End]
  • NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ? by yoe91   41 days  332  Adrenal Fatigue / CFS, ME, C / Brain Fog
     
    Hey forum, haven’t written here in a while. ... This month marks my official first entire year of NB. Enemas started in August (2012) though. ... ... I know it is constantly repeated that NB takes a long time, but I must say, I’ve had AF for a total of 7 years now, and the only pattern has been a constant slide. Every day I’ve felt worse than the previous, with certain periods more obvious than others. ... Like this past month, I feel NOTICEABLY more tired than the previous day, it’s crazy I don’t know when this will end. I feel like I’m already at a threshold, ready to pass out, and I ’know’ tomorro ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ? by hawskfan9325   41 days  281
       
      Man. How bad was your AF before you started NB? For severe AF I would never recommend NB. Too many uneducated practitioners. Do they have you on glandulars? Coffee Enemas can disrupt electrolyte balance too, and intestinal flora. BE Careful.   [End]
      • Re: NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ? by yoe91   40 days  237
         
        hawskfan9325, SB1108, SeattleK, thanks for your replies guys. ... ... But how can you be so sure NB isn’t the whole picture ? ... It sounds naive, but I’d rather trust the docs. Dr. Wilson seems to be crazy knowledgeable and have tremendous common sense/be greatly scientific-minded. ... ... My AF is very bad now, yes. I can barely talk throughout the day, and it’s difficult at night now even. But I still can go beyond myself. ... ... *What are glandulars ? ... *I do coffee enemas yes, and I feel fkn EXHAUSTED after doing them. Maybe it’s the hour at which I do them, I get tired around 6pm usually anyways... ... ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ? by SeattleK   40 days  196
           
          Glandulars are like hormones (parathyroid, thymus, bovine etc.) They can give you quite a pick-me-up, but some of us cannot tolerate it. ... ... Well it takes time to trial run the supplements. At best you will only get a correlation. But, if your health is stable (feeling the same for 4-5 days in a row+), you can add or subtract a supplement and see if you feel significantly different for the next 3-4 days, then repeat. This is not rigorous science, but the best we can do. It is tough, because often in NB you feel worse before you feel better. Hope this has helped. ... ... NB helped me immensely ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ? by SB1108   41 days  267
       
      I’ve had CFS since late 2009... and like you said, I still can’t fall asleep before 2:30 or wake up before 10:30. ... ... I’ve been doing NB for over one year (like one year and two months). I have definitely made improvements but I have some symptoms that just wont go away (i.e. the fatigue and hypoglycemia). I think NB helps with a major side effect of CFS - malabsorption. My hair isn’t falling out anymore, my finger nails look normal, my muscle pain has been greatly reduced, and even my stomach pain has lessened. ... ... But there is definitely something missing - Before I went on NB, my fatigue ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ? by SeattleK   41 days  251
       
      In short, yes, there were times I felt much worse before I felt better. It did not take me a year though. ... ... Careful of glandulars, and of electrolytes (like Hawksfan said) if your doing CE’s. ... ... And remember that NB is not an ALL encompassing plan even if they sell it that way, many of us have gotten a boost by focusing on the gut in addition to NB (candida, parasites etc.) I don’t know if this applies to you, but you might think about it you need to add another component. It might be a worthwhile exercise to eliminate 1 supplement for a week, see how you feel, add it back, then eliminat ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ? by thelaughingdogs   38 days  202
       
      Sorry I am not doing NB but have been copper detoxing for the past two years with extreme improvement. I have dumped a ton of copper but unfortunately detoxing takes all of of your energy and that what maybe causing your fatigue. And by the way masturbation uses lot of energy too. ... ... It’s taking me a long time to detox because I didn’t want to do it all at once because I wanted to function. I tried to do cycles as much I could but sometimes once your body starts detoxing it won’t stop because that what it needs to do. Anyway after each detox cycle I was so fatigued but was also feeling mor ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: NB - duration of detox and extreme fatigue symptoms ? by yoe91   28 days  115
         
        sorry, didn’t think anybody replied to that... ... I just feel worse by the day, a lot worse when I wake up past 11am...if I wake up around 10/10:30 i’m relatively much better but it’s so hard. ... ... Thx for the kind help !   [End]
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