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- 36 Reasons Many Christians Oppose The Death Penalty
by frugivorous
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36 REASONS THAT MANY CHRISTIANS SUPPORT ABOLITION OF THE DEATH PENALTY ... ... In John 8: 7 Jesus stands between a mob and a woman they are executing telling them to put down the stones ... unless they are without sin.. preventing a capital punishment in progress. ... ******* ... ... Micah says: GOD WHO IS COMPASSION IS THROWING OUR INIQUITIES ... (SINS) INTO THE DEEPEST DEPTHS OF THE OCEAN ... ... ... Most of the predominantly Christian nations of the world have outlawed capital punishment. From Matthew to John 8: 7 the Gospel is full of Christ’s infinite mercy, compassion, the universal forgiveness of the Good Sh ...
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- 90% of World's Countries And 82% of US States Didn't
Execute
by frugivorous
4 mon
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90% Of World’s Countries, 82% Of US States Did Not Execute Prisoners In 2012 ... ... Only 20 countries and only 9 US states commited government murder of prisoners in 2012. ... The death penalty they say is dying. Only 20 countries of over 200 carried out executions in 2012. These are China, the US, Afghanistan, Botswana, Gambia, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Japan, Pakistan, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, Belarus, Taiwan, India (1 execution.) While Israel has not had court ordered executions, its assassinations and war executions are well known. Only 18% of US ...
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- Death
by Histopathlab
9 mon
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Thanks for starting this forum. [End]
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- Do Death Penalty Supporters Have the Moral Courage to Be Consistent?
by charleslb
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So here’s a far-out and heady hypothetical proposition, a provocative and introspective thought experiment to test the depth of belief that death penalty supporters have in the moral math of “a life for a life”. A slightly grim gedankenexperiment to make them question whether or not they have the moral courage of their professed conviction that anyone who needlessly causes the death of an innocent person forfeits his/her own right to go on living. ... ... Imagine that a lunatic-fringe faction of seriously strict-constructionist believers in Deuteronomy 19:21 (בנפש נ ...
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- UN Calls for a Moritorium on the Death Penalty...
by Raynbo
6 year
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(The United States is one of very few countries that still use the death penalty. Check the company we keep...they are all known for an abysmal lack of human rights, poverity, and underdevelopment. What company we keep!) ... ... ... ... UN Assembly calls for moratorium on death penalty 18 Dec 2007 19:39:13 GMT ... Source: Reuters ... ... ... By Daniel Bases ... ... UNITED NATIONS, Dec 18 (Reuters) - The U.N. General Assembly passed a nonbinding resolution on Tuesday calling for a moratorium on the death penalty, overcoming protests from a bloc of states that said it undermined their sovereignty. ... ... The resoluti ...
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- Re: UN Calls for a Moritorium on the Death Penalty...
by 2Sirius
6 year
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The UN has no moral authority in anything! Would the UN call for a moritorium on abortion ? Hardly as thy are a big promoters of abortion and population control with a hidden agenda to promote forced abortion ! They are also pro war with thier million man chinese army in the waiting room! Get out of the UN and get the UN out of America! ... ... ... http://www.getusout.org/un/index.html ... [End]
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- Re: UN Calls for a Moritorium on the Death Penalty...
by #128606
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l was talking to a co-worker. His wife just had a baby. Seeing he was tense and grabbing all the extra over time he could get, l asked if they were going to have any more? He said yes, 3 more. l said,”the world is becoming the way it is and you want more?” He said, ” We have to.” ” We have to keep up with the Chinese.” ........Some people actually believe this. Water and food shortages and they don’t care until it directly affects them. l have to pay$625.00 for school taxes! And l don’t have kids. l decided on that early. l see people having children so they get more money on welfare here ...
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- Re: UN Calls for a Moritorium on the Death Penalty...
by #128725
3 year
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” Most American prisons are over populated. Life sentencers should be executed and the food used to feed him given to the starving.” ... ... ... I was trying to think of a place where you should be sent, so that you can not give vent to your homicidal tendencies, but no place on earth is far enough from humanity for you to be safely sent. Do try and find that inner core of love that must still be inside of you, before you succumb to your own toxicity! [End]
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- Re: UN Calls for a Moritorium on the Death Penalty...
by #128725
3 year
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I am against the death penalty.Too often the underclass is executed wrongfully.There is a historic case that occured in Barbados around 1964, where a white Canadian Anglican Priest murdered his wife one christmas morning.He then went to church and preached. The gardener, a black Vincentian was executed by hanging, despite the fact that the dead woman’s small child said that daddy did it. Years later the criminal struck again, there was no black scapegoat this time. He had left Barbados I do not recall where he was living at the time. He was convicted of murder,and at the same time admitted ...
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- Thank You God that Gov Perry gave mercy to Ken Foster
by frugivore
6 year
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Governor Perry Grants Clemency to Kenneth Foster ... ... http://www.texasmoratorium.org ... ... ... (Ken foster has already been in jail for 10 years for ... driving a bank robbery car. God give him freedom now.) ... ... President Carter and Bishop Tutu were among the thousands who ... asked for clemency. ... ... God end all government murder everywhere. ... ... Thank you Governor Perry for mercy. May it be expanded in all our ... hearts. ... [End]
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- Re: Thank You God that Gov Perry gave mercy to Ken Foster
by #54894
6 year
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... ... ... Good work, we need more people to drive the car so others can rob and kill people. When he gets out, I hope he lives in an area where the people who are opposed to the death penalty reside. ... ... Meanwhile I notice their is no fight from Jimmy Carter to free 2 boarder patrol agents that wounded a fleeing drug dealer. They can rot in jail for interfering with the profitable illegal drug industry. [End]
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- God prevent the execution of Ken Foster tonight.
by frugivore
6 year
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... God prevent the execution of Ken Foster tonight. Send Your angels to free him ... as You sent angels to release people from prison before. ... Turn weapons of violence ... around on Gov Perry, Supreme Court ... justices, and anyone else who ... attempts to take the life of this ... innocent man. Give them sufficient taste of their own violence ... that they change their ways. ... Odell Barnes, innocent man ... was murdered by George Bush after the then President of France appealed ... for his life. ... ... http://www.phillyimc.org/or/2007/08/41571.shtml ... ... [End]
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- All 5 serial killers on the Supreme Court are 'prolife' Roman Catholics
by #84815
6 year
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All 5 serial killers on the Supreme Court are ’prolife’ Roman Catholics ... John Roberts, Sam Alito, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas, Anthony Kennedy ... ... judges unelected, nominated by the unelected, and ratified ... by a Diebold Senate (Sununu, Allard, Izakson, Chambliss ... and Coleman are Diebold unelected senators) . All have a ’prolife’ ... base, as they facilitate torture and the bombing of the babies of Baghdad, allow Huntsville Texas ... and Terre Haute Indiana to continue their guillotines, (2/3 of the countries in the world have banned the barbarism of state murder), as they place no limitations ...
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- Some Abolition Links
by frugivore
6 year
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... SOME ABOLITION LINKS ... ... Amnesty International’s Death Penalty Abolition News and Updates ... ... http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish ... ... ... Belgium French-speaking United States Coordination of Amnesty International ... ... http://www.aibfusa.be.tf ... ... ... Canadian Coalition Against the Death Penalty ... ... http://ccadp.org ... ... ... Campaign to End the Death Penalty ... ... http://www.nodeathpenalty.org ... ... ... Sant’Egidio Community ... ... http://www.santegidio.org ... ... ... Hands Off Cain -- Against the Death Penalty in the World ... ... http://www.handsoffcain.org ... ... ... American Bar Association ... ... http://www.abanet.org ... ... ... C ...
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- Texas prepares to murder Ken Foster tho admitting he killed no one
by frugivore
6 year
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God inside and outside all beings prevent this and all executions now and forever. ... ... Texas Government prepares to murder Ken Foster tho admitting he killed no one ... ... ”Kenneth Foster did not kill anyone or premeditate murder. It is the State of Texas which is premeditating murder in late August..” ... ... The Texas ”Law of Parties” allows the state to continue its reign of terror and execute someone who killed none and planned on killing none. ... ... Kenneth Foster drove ... a car one of whose inhabitants shot someone. ... Kenneth Foster was editor of his ... school newspaper. ... ... The shooter in Kenneth’s ca ...
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- Please prevent Vermont, Georgia, Texas and all execution
by #84917
6 year
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... ... The same Alberto Gonzales who ... rubber stamped all 152 of Bush’s ... executions in Texas, who has written ... memos promoting torture around ... the world, who has spied on all ... Americans and promoted the ... slaughter of innocents around the world ... is trying to advance Texas execution ... to other states. Who are the federal ... prosecutors doing his bidding? ... ... The Madame DeFarge in this case ... is Gonzales subordinate Assistant U.S. Attorney Stephen Kelly, ... the prosecutor, who works in the ... Burlington Vermont area and who ... is attempting to kill despite the ... overwhelming opposition to capital ... punishment ...
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- Last words
by frugivore
6 year
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LAST WORDS ... ... Atty Cheshire: ... paraphrased: ... ... Why does a man hang himself ... the day before his scheduled ... execution? to have some control ... over his time of exit ... ... ** ... John Brown on the gallows ... before hanged after seized ... by Robert E Lee: ... ... ”I cannot remember a night so dark as ... to hinder the coming day.” ... * ... Father forgive them for they ... know not what they do. ... ... -Jesus Christ- (this quote was spoken in the last hours of his life but is ... not his final words, according to the KJV) ... ... It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, ...
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- Lethal Injection Is Not Humane
by Corinthian
6 year
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Lethal Injection Is Not Humane ... ... ... The PLoS Medicine Editors ... ... ... ... ... ... Citation: The PLoS Medicine Editors (2007) Lethal Injection Is Not Humane. PLoS Med 4(4): e171 doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.0040171 ... ... Published: April 24, 2007 ... ... Copyright: © 2007 The PLoS Medicine Editors. This is an open-access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited. ... ... E-mail: medicine_editors@plos.org
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- Just Think of the Pile of Bodies we'd have- If the
by babsbiltmore
7 year
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Death Penatly was established for fradulent accounting practices-eh? ... Why Marie Antoinette and let them eat cake wouldn’t hold a candle (get it?) to the pile of bodies that would be piling up..... ... ... ... ... ... Accountant Gets Death Penalty ... Suddenly, Jeffrey Skilling’s 24-year sentence is looking a tad better. ... Stephen Taub, CFO.com ... December 14, 2006 ... A Chinese high court allowed the death penalty to stand for an accountant who was involved in defrauding bank customers out of hundreds of millions of dollars, reported the Associated Press. Earlier this week, accountant Liu Yibing, and Zhou Lim ...
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- Moussaoui gets life in prison...
by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ...even though I favor the death penalty in extreme cases, I have to say I was happy with this sentence...I dont want this breathing pile of junk to be a martyr...and I didnt want him to get what he wanted which was death...good work jury. [End]
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- That was what he was counting on ...
by White Shark
7 year
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pwalsh67, ... what if Moussaoui is smarter then we think he is? ... ... What if he was just acting all along? ... ... He knew that jury and the whole America wanted to punish him, so ... if he acted like he wanted death, like he wanted to become legend ... he knew jury would not satisfy his wish ... instead he gets life in prison ... ... ... But, life in prison is what he really wanted ... but didn’t say knowing that jury would not want to go by his own wish. ... ... Smart guy Moussaoui! He outsmarted jury and the whole World! ... ... White Shark [End]
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- Re: That was what he was counting on ...
by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ... SMART??? If your definition of smart is rotting in a jail cell then yes he’s a genius...me personally I’d rather get it over with quickly by an injection or whatever...I guess he’s going to have to wait a LONG time before he gets all them virgins in heaven, ha ha ha... :) [End]
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- Re: Moussaoui gets life in prison...
by #63995
7 year
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the guy was innocent (of the crime he was charge with) not innocent in the moral sense. [End]
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- Good nite..........
by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ... ...gotta work tommorrow. ... ... ... ... -Patrick [End]
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- death penalty
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by lovejesus
7 year
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im for the death penalty,because paople that kill and rape people need to pay for it.after all when thay rape women to day thay give the women the death penalty for being inosent victom. i think thay should speed it up a bit, it only costs .33cents ... to take them out and show it on tv so it would be a deturant to do it again. ... and yes im a pro - life for my kids and others. [End]
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- Re: death penalty2
by Five
7 year
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If they took all these asocial miscreants out, the rest of us could have a great life. ... We could walk the streets at night without fear. ... We would have to worry that our kids would be harmed. ... We would not need locks for our doors, nor security systems. ... Those ugly jails would be a lot smaller. ... The courts would not have to keep processing the same thugs over and over again. ... We could put our tax dollars to good use educating the educable. [End]
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- hmmmm....interesting3
by finallyfaith
7 year
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lovejesus, ... ... i assume you chose your name because you really love Jesus, yes? ... ... well who are you to deprive someone the chance of repenting of their sin in this lifetime? their actions may be reprehensible, but they may have a change of heart someday. or maybe not, but we are not God, and it is not our place to take the life of another human being. thats what separates the criminal and the non-criminal. [End]
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting4
by pwalsh67
7 year
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It is possible to love Jesus and be for the death penalty...there are crimes against fellow humans that are beyond forgivness and to answer the strange question of ”who are we to decide” it goes something like this ”we are the people that follow the rules, pay our taxes, try to raise our kids right, try to love our neighbors, and we are SICK of not being able to walk the streets at night, SICK of reading the newspapers with horrid stories of murder and brutal rapes, SICK of REPEAT child molesters and the leftist liberal judges that let them out time and time again, SICK of these slick lawy ...
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting5
by Atalanta
7 year
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beyond forgivness ... ... Where in the bible does it say there are sins beyond forgivness. I always learned that god will forgive any sin, you just have to be sorry for what you did. [End]
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by #50115
7 year
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... ... Great point IF our laws were run ONLY by Biblical standards and EVERYONE (victim and criminals) were christians... ... ... ... Look, I’m not proud to be pro-death penalty, but I FEAR people escaping and doing it again...of course I FEAR the wrong person getting the death penalty too... [End]
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting7
by Atalanta
7 year
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Look, I’m not proud to be pro-death penalty, but I FEAR people escaping and doing it again...of course I FEAR the wrong person getting the death penalty too... ... ... Which one do you fear more? ... ... You have no right calling yourself pro-life (just read your post on the other forum) ... ... Try pro-some-life. [End]
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting8
by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ... ... Actually I AM pro-life as you say, and I am pro-life for all, but that doesnt mean that there arent penalties in life... ... ... ... I fear both equally but I am willing to DUMP the death penalty altogether in exchange for the left DUMPING abortion...I TRULY understand a person being against the death penalty as it DOES have it’s flaws... ... ... -Patrick [End]
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by Atalanta
7 year
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I fear both equally but I am willing to DUMP the death penalty altogether in exchange for the left DUMPING abortion ... ... I’m confused. You would only suport the banning of the death penalty if abortion was outlawed too? Or would you support the banning regardless? [End]
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting10
by pwalsh67
7 year
3,671
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... ... ... ... I would support banning regardless BECAUSE of the possible mistakes...I imagine MYSELF on death row for something I didnt do and the cold sweat starts...BTW I am writing to a lady on death row in Pennsylvania... [End]
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting11
by Atalanta
7 year
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How do you get into contact with people like that? [End]
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting12
by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ... ... I think it was on Foxnews.com that had some link...I am sure if you google ”women on death row” or whatever, something will come up... [End]
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- so you would kill the woman you write to13
by finallyfaith
7 year
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you are writing to someone on death row, but you would pull the switch and end her life today cause she deserves to die. ... ... okay, this makes NO SENSE TO ME WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is how i imagine your letter ... ... ... ... dear lady on death row, ... ... i hope you are doing well and that you soon accept my religious viewpoints. oh yeah, and you deserve to die and i hope the they pull the switch real soon. ... ... take care, ... ... lovejesus ... ... ... ... well, hey to each his own i guess [End]
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- Re: so you would kill the woman you write to14
by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ... I dont know the FACTS of her case or what she’s in for...I can only ASSUME murder of some sort...without the FACTS I cant answer your question... ... ... ... I write to the lady and NEVER bring up crime or the death penalty...I just simply ask her about music, her childhood, tell jokes, ask about tv shows, are the guards pretty cool or are they jerks, what food she likes, etc...IF she asks me I will tell her that I believe in the death penalty when it’s BEYOND ALL DOUBT and the crime is BEYOND HORRIBLE...Hitler would get it, Stalin too, all them serial killers would get the death penalty if ...
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- right, so you would kill her15
by finallyfaith
7 year
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still makes no sense to me. i guess if you get to know her then you might say well SHE doesn’t dserve to die, but other people do. but the relatives of her victims will say SHE needs ot die. i think all you people who support the death penalty should volunteer to pull the switch yourself. ... ... [End]
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- Re: right, so you would kill her16
by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ... ... What part doesnt make sense??? I dont know the FACTS of her case...how can ANYONE make a decision without knowing the FACTS of her case??? [End]
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- Re: right, so you would kill her17
by finallyfaith
7 year
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listen you were the one who said you supported the death penalty, i guess you just support it for those particular crimes that you personally find offensive. i mean i doubt she is there for jaywalking. [End]
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- Re: right, so you would kill her18
by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ... You’re right I support the death penalty where it is deserved (Hitler, Stalin, etc.) but I believe in a FAIR trial too...I dont know what she did so I have no opinion on her until I find out what the FACTS are...you’re right it is PROBABLY something real bad, but hey let’s say she is there because she killed her husband as he was beating her...I mean until I know the FACTS I wont jump to conclusions... ... ... ... I support the death penalty where it is warrented...are YOU saying there is NEVER a case where the death penalty is warrented??? [End]
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- Foxnews - no surpirse there! n/m /40
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by #2974
7 year
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Foxnews - no surpirse there! n/m [End]
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- Re: Foxnews: FAIR and BALANCED22
by pwalsh67
7 year
3,752
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... ... ... They report, you decide...they are loaded with both liberals (Greta Van Sustern, Alan Colmes, Geraldo Rivera, Juan Williams, Susan Estrich, etc.) and conservatives (Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Neil Cavuto, Newt Gingrich, etc.) [End]
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- Re: Foxnews: FAIR and BALANCED --- ha ha ha ha ha23
by #2974
7 year
3,711
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HA HA HA HA!!! Yeah right! Fair and Balanced.... HA HA HA HA! [End]
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- Re: Foxnews: FAIR and BALANCED --- ha ha ha ha ha24
by pwalsh67
7 year
3,584
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... ... ... ... I just gave you examples of liberals and conservatives on the channel...what more do you want??? [End]
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- Re: Foxnews: FAIR and BALANCED --- ha ha ha ha ha25
by finallyfaith
7 year
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those are not liberal patrick, they are wussy whiny ”foxified” version of what you believe are liberals. you have bought into a ”liberal” and ”conservative” mind set that only benefits the elite. you are not thinking for yourself. [End]
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by pwalsh67
7 year
3,615
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Ok...foxnews is bad...give me some examples of where you think I should get my news... ... ... Here’s what I already use so you dont have to repeat what I already do: ... ... foxnews-tv and website ... cbs news-website ... washtimes-website ... NY daily news-newspaper ... NY post-newspaper ... drudgereport ... 1010 WINS radio station in New York ... 770 WABC radio station in New York ... Newschannel 12-local Bronx news [End]
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- this "death penalty" forum, not "comedy forum" n/m27
by finallyfaith
7 year
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this ”death penalty” forum, not ”comedy forum” n/m [End]
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by pwalsh67
7 year
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... ... ... ... I just gave you examples of liberals and conservatives on the channel...what more do you want??? [End]
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- Re: this "death penalty" forum, not "comedy forum" n/m29
by finallyfaith
7 year
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honestly patrick you really need to start thinking for yourself. there are actually many sources of news, including the internet that aren’t ”commie” or fascist or whatver, stop buyng into all that, you are buying into a mindset, you are not using your God given brain, please start. you are smarter than that. i know you are. [End]
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- Re: this "death penalty" forum, not "comedy forum" n/m30
by pwalsh67
7 year
3,641
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... ... ... ... If you read back you wont find where I said that Foxnews was my ONLY source of news...I have numerous places that I read...I was just answering what was said that’s all...scroll back and you’ll see where it started... [End]
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting35
by lightbringer
7 year
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Hi! Atalanta, ... For once I agree with one of your statments, that any act of sin can be forgiven. If not, then some of us would be in deep trouble. Have a nice week. ... Sincerely I C L [End]
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by Atalanta
7 year
3,729
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Hi! Atalanta, ... For once I agree with one of your statments, that any act of sin can be forgiven. If not, then some of us would be in deep trouble. Have a nice week. ... Sincerely I C L [End]
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- Re: hmmmm....interesting37
by lightbringer
7 year
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Hi! Atalanta, ... I am for the death penalty,for many reasons,but primarly for religious reasons,that are quite extensive and in depth. So much so that it would take more time and space than is allowed here on this forum to properly explain. ... Besides if I believe in GOD and that the bible is the word of GOD, and you don’t, then we are at an impass even before we began to discuss the reasons of our differences. ... As I said earlier have a great week. ... Sincerely I C L [End]
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by Atalanta
7 year
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Besides if I believe in GOD and that the bible is the word of GOD, and you don’t, then we are at an impass even before we began to discuss the reasons of our differences. ... ... I disagree. We both do not believe in the word of god. Please direct me to the bible quote where it says it’s ok to kill. ... ... Becasue I only am aware of ”casting the first stone” and the commandment ”you shall not kill” ... ... I also know the bible urges everyone to forgive. ... ... I, unlike you, actully like and abide by these teachings. I don’t know what bible you’re reading, Satan’s maybe? ... ... But you have no right calling ...
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- Re: death penalty39
by #2974
7 year
3,679
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Jesus Lover, ... it’s seems you screen name and your convictions are at odds. [End]
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- Survey - Death Penalty /33
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by #60182
7 year
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How many of you are pro or con the death penalty? Please weight in and say if you are pro-choice or pro-life, or undecided. [End]
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- Re: Survey - Death Penalty2
by superhero
7 year
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I used to be very pro-death penalty. In theory I still am. I’m a big believer in justice. Without justice our society would go downhill fast. On the other hand, in practice the death penalty doesn’t make much sense the way it is performed today. Waiting many years or decades to bring a man to justice for his crime seems quite wrong. This is a very difficult subject for me. I am heartbreakingly pro-life and I’m a forgiver by nature...however I’m also a big believer in justice. These ultimately collide in the case of capital punishment. In short, I don’t know what my answer is. [End]
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by Atalanta
7 year
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I’m a big believer in justice. Without justice our society would go downhill fast. ... ... I have a lawywer in one of my classes and he told us a story about his days in law school. ... ... They were discussing some case and a girl says, that wasen’t justful. She wanted to see justice to happen in the case. The professor says: ... ... You want justice, you are in the wrong field, go to theology school for justice. ... ... There is no justice in our ”justice department.” The truth is the rich can get away with murder adn the poor will be put to death for begging. ... ... I’m glad you believe in justice, but you ...
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- Re: Survey - Death Penalty4
by supersport
7 year
3,286
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Well you’re right about one thing...ultimate Justice is coming for everyone. Our nation’s criminal justice system is not perfect....but then again nothing is. [End]
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- Re: Survey - Death Penalty5
by Atalanta
7 year
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I’ve always loved posing this question also to pro-lifers and often realize they are not pro-lifers anymore but pro-death. Funny isn’t it? ... ... I started a thread on this a while ago and no one really replied so I doubt this will really start a convo. ... ... I’ll start by saying that the prison system is the most f***ed up, racist, class-oriented, dehumanizing, and psychologically draining system which exists in our country. ... ... I don’t think the prison system does one thing right and definitely does not bring justice. Obviosly I’m anit-death pentalty. It even costs more to kill them then to k ...
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by #60182
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Yeah, there is always a big conundrum when it comes to this subject. I bet most pro-choice people are anti-death penalty. And many pro-life people actually end up being for the death penalty. I’m not saying this to say that one group is ”good” or ”bad”, it’s just a strange twist. [End]
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by anonymousjane_01
7 year
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Correction: I am pro-death of the murderous, criminally insane individuals, not pro-death of an innocent child/baby/fetus. There is a difference! ... ... AnonymousJane_01 [End]
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by Atalanta
7 year
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So you’re only Semi pro-life. Yeah makes sense. Seems a little hippocritical to me especially when God says that no one has the right to take anyone’s life but he will be the final judge but somehow you Jane think it’s ok in this case to kill, and oh yes sometimes even innocent people. [End]
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by #60182
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Atlanta: ... ... It was not my intention to start accusing people of being contrary. It’s only food for thought. I wanted people to be really honest in this post so that we can keep this topic open. It’s a very complicated issue, not completely black and white. And, as posters think about what they are saying, it does dredge up some feelings about the whole issue of death. ... ... Sorry, I know its easy to start that kind of debate, and, no matter what I say, it will probably take on a life of its’ own. ... ... Thanks for listening. ... ... [End]
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by Atalanta
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But They don’t get it. And sadly, they never will. I don’t think they see themselves as hippocitical at all. ... ... Sorry but it is a debate forum... [End]
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by MichelleT
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class-oriented...don’t think so. My brother is white, my father is very rich,( my brother looks like a model). Basically he doesn’t look like he should be there. Daddy’s not helping him. He chose to be the way he is. ... Have you ever been to a Mexican prison? What about Middle Eastern? The prison system in this country is SPA material compaired to that. ... Here’s the deal, let’s say someone rapes my kids, sodomizes them and other kids, and leaves them for dead...do you put that person as the same as an innocent baby who hasn’t done anything wrong to anyone? Could anyone say, they blame a famil ...
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by Atalanta
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You keep preaching about God. ... ... WWJD? ... ... Answer that. [End]
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by MichelleT
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preaching about God? what are you preaching? Or are you exempt from this whole thing? ... By the way, we’re all accountable. We will be. ... I would have to say, that in the old testament it was an eye for an eye. Meaning, if you killed someone you should be killed. etc. ... When Jesus came, things changed. He became the sacrifice. He told us not to kill. He said if someone does you wrong get away from them because he will be the avenger. Not us. So, if I go by that, I would say let God judge the evil person. Make sure he never escapes prison to hurt others. But let God decide when he dies and wher ...
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by Ohfor07
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Not entirely disagreeing with you, but........ ... ... Things like crimes and the alledged criminals in jail for supposedly perpetrating them are not always cut & dried, black & white situations; especially these days when one considers the elected officals pumping out so-called laws to enable their alphabet soup of jack-booted thugs wearing any number of badges in the name of law to have unlimited authority to detain and apprehend whomever they choose, only to be supported by a partner division they have the nerve to call department of justice. Some people have awakened only enought to worry - ...
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by Atalanta
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Am I excempt? From what? The God thing? Yep. ... ... So Jesus told you not to kill and turn the other cheek but you still wanna kill? ... ... What is it? Only follow the Bible sometimes? [End]
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by chellybelly
7 year
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Listen Atalanta... these things..the things of God are foolish to the ”natural man”. [End]
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by Atalanta
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You make no sence whatsoever. You ramble about nothing and never answer a question straight up. ... ... God clearly wants people not to judge, to forgive, and not to KILL! ... ... But here you go preaching about God, and how much you follow him but then are ready to kill. That Michelle is wrong. You are not a Christian and God knows! [End]
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by chellybelly
7 year
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someone called someone a ”twat” in zapper..the room. why didn’t they get kicked? why did the post stay?? biased prejudice against truth place. [End]
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by Tumeric
7 year
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I am pro-choice and I am against the death penalty (unless they killed my family member). Go figure. I think, if anyone tried to kill one of my family members, I’d have to do something. I feel like so many innocent people are actually put to death, how can we know? But, then again, I’ve never felt the overwhelming despair that would come if someone hurt my child. ... ... It’s fairly confusing, but I think I’d be able to forgive, but then again....oh damn. [End]
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by judy g
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I think there ought to be legal abortion available and I think there ought to be provisions in the law for the death penalty. Now, when they might get used gets stickier. [End]
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by #59245
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Hi. I am pro-choice and I am against the death penalty, totally. [End]
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by MichelleT
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class-oriented...don’t think so. My brother is white, my father is very rich,( my brother looks like a model). Basically he doesn’t look like he should be there. Daddy’s not helping him. He chose to be the way he is. ... Have you ever been to a Mexican prison? What about Middle Eastern? The prison system in this country is SPA material compaired to that. ... Here’s the deal, let’s say someone rapes my kids, sodomizes them and other kids, and leaves them for dead...do you put that person as the same as an innocent baby who hasn’t done anything wrong to anyone? Could anyone say, they blame a famil ...
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by #42407
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I don’t think that abortion is any comparison to either the Iraq War or the Death Penalty. [End]
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by #59245
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Of course it is. Very much so. After all, we are talking about death, murder, innocents, justice, etc. It may be a stretch for some people though. [End]
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by MichelleT
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yeah your right it isn’t comparable to the Iraq war or Death Penalty. Very good you see there’s no connection to killing an innocent victim as opposed to protecting your country or protecting the citizens of a community from a dangerous guilty person. Abortion is more like the holocaust. Extermination of a large group of innocent people.
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by anonymousjane_01
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I am pro-life, and I am for the death penalty. ... ... I am against the practice of murdering innocent young people who didn’t ask to come in this world. But who gets slaughtered for no reason other than he/she was an inconvenience to his/her mother(and father). That’s very wrong in my eyes. ... ... I am for the death penalty where we kill by electrocution an animal human being who murdered innocent people b/c he is a very sick individual. The man on death row who raped and strangled a twelve-year-old girl should be excluded from society, and ultimately put to death for that heinous crime. ... ... ... Gran ...
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by #60182
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Excellent post. Exactly and perfectly done in the spirit of this discussion. [End]
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by Atalanta
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You know you said it yourself when you said that thoes individuals are sick. They are but our society rarely has mental hospitals. The vast majority of people in jail are mentally ill. Your post reminded me of the holocost. Exterminate people who are mentally sick, when in reality they could be helped but we just throw them behind bars where they only get worse. The system is corrupt. ... ... Ever think that one of thoes fetuses you saved could end up on death row and then you cheer for their executions? Wouldn’t it have been better if they were aborted in the first place? ... ... How do you j ...
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by #30155
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I would have to agree with the points you’ve brought up. I would be curious to see a correlation between murderers,their upbringing, and their mother’s/parent’s life situation. ... ... I’m pro-choice and against the death-penalty, but I can certainly respect those that have conflicting views. Both issues are NOT black and white. ... The death penalty scares me because the justice system is so flawed and innocent people will sometimes suffer the consequences. I believe for that reason alone it shouldn’t exist. Also, as previously mentioned, the death penalty is not economically sensible and it ...
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by MrCooties
7 year
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I am anti-death penalty and pro-choice. ... ... The common link? A government has absolutley no business or competence in killing off it’s own citizens or removing rights of certain groups of citizens (females). ... ... Some people deserve to die, and fetuses deserve to live, but it’s not government’s place or level of competence to decide either. ... ... [End]
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by MichelleT
7 year
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well if you really believe that then you would see that it’s not the governments right to allow certain groups (women) to take the lives of certain people either(babies). [End]
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by #62549
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Not trying to sound like a ”waffler” but I understand the rage someone feels who has had someone killed by a ruthless thug. I can understand them wanting the death penalty and therefore I believe we must have it. Is it right? Probably not. So, there you have it. ... ... Angel ... ... http://www.mtworkathome.com ... ... ... http://www.cwahm.com ... ... ... http://www.readspanish.com ... ... [End]
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