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  • Three rounds of DMSA, feeling worse. by jboy7185   20 h  12
     
    I had to stop early last round, just couldn’t take it anymore. I have candida maybe that’s the cause. I was at 12.5mg every 4 hours. ... ... I’m trying to read as much as I can, I need to get some energy back within the next couple weeks as I have to go back to work due to having a baby and girlfriend lost her job. ... ... Should I try ALA, DMPS? if so where can I order them? I really need my energy and focus back, i feel just like a constant flu and foggy brain. ... ... Also I took zinc, vit e, lots of vit c, mag/calc. Should I of added anything else? ... ... I now take selenium with a drop of lugols iodine.   [retrieve this message]
  • EECP-Creates Bypass Naturally,Eecp-Heart Disease by abisheik   57 h  263
     
    EECP is a non-surgical, non-pharmaceutical, treatment for heart disease that is used to relieve or eliminate angina. During the treatment, blood pressure cuffs are wrapped around your legs, and squeezed and released in sync with your heartbeat, promoting blood flow throughout your body and particularly to your heart. In the process, EECP develops new pathways around blocked arteries in the heart by expanding networks of tiny blood vessels (”collaterals”) that help increase and normalize blood flow to the heart muscle. For this reason, it is often called the NATURAL BYPASS.   [End]
  • Is this product any good? by CGally81   6 days  63  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    I was recommended this on a candida forum. It’s called Natural Detox Factors (NDF) by some company called Bioray. ... ... According to their site - http://www.bioray.com/ndf/ - it contains ”Certified organic, raw, whole, pure, and micronized: chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 20% grain neutral spirits as a preservative.” ... ... So it has chlorella and cilantro, which some people swear by, and it has probiotics (though it doesn’t mention more than that), and apparently not much else. ... ... They recommend taking it twice a day. Now, from what I hear, chlorella and cilantro are supposed to b ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Is this product any good? by joegrane   6 days  47
       
      Some people have really nasty reactions to cilantro. It seems to move mercury like ALA. This is an example of reports I’ve heard in the yahoo groups. Check out the second to the last paragraph. ... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/52916 ... Thankfully he is slowly regaining his health. ... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/64260 ... ... Cutler and Dr Dan Pompa discuss chlorella about a third of the way through this audio interview. ... http://www.healthcentersofthefuture.com/DrCutler/ ... ... Have you ever tried DMPS? It sounds like a bet ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Is this product any good? by red424   6 days  51
         
        I really reccomend ALA. DMSA and DMPS are really optional. ... ... 12 rounds with no more than 1-2 days off a week and I have made some amazing gains.   [End]
        • Re: Is this product any good? by joegrane   5 days  36
           
          Red, I agree with you about ALA but I think CGally was a little to aggressive with DMSA dosing while he had some gut problems. I don’t know if he was getting optimal levels of supporting supplements. He certainly is not alone in his reaction to DMSA. Thankfully I’ve done just fine with it over the past nearly 3 yrs. ... ... Some folks who get into that situation do well on a little DMPS for a while and then can later add ALA to the DMPS. ... ... A close female friend whose gut is not as nearly as problematic as CGally’s can tolerate an occasional round with DMSA, but can get a recurrance of a b ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Is this product any good? by red424   5 days  41
             
            I’m using DMPS and ALA right now. DMSA gave me bad yeast flares so I stopped for a bit. I plan on using up the DMSA after my DMPS is gone if the yeast is better. ... ... The DMSA symptoms sound like they could be really bad yeast. Maybe a hidden infection or something since DMSA kills the immune system while its being taken. Or it could be a reaction to the actual DMSA. I don’t know. ... ... But yeah everyone is different I agree. Just find something that works for you and do that.   [End]
  • Sunflower lecithin by CGally81   9 days  53  Chelation Support / Chelation: / Memory
     
    I’d heard people say good things about lecithin - which I assume is often soy lecithin - and how it helps with chelation of the brain, and helps memory. ... ... I’m willing to try it... but not with soy. Soy lecithin actually is in some foods I eat, and I have no adverse reactions to it the way I do with soy protein, but I’m still leery of consuming a full tablespoon of the stuff just in case. ... ... What do you guys think of sunflower lecithin as a substitute? Do you think it should work as well, and be safe? I am thinking of trying it.   [End]
    • Re: Sunflower lecithin by joegrane   9 days  54
       
      Some FDC group members use it. ... ... I’m okay on soy lecithin but my food sensitivities are in other areas.   [End]
  • How Reishi and other asian herbs helpt me tremendously to improve my con... by pastet89   9 days  172  Candida Support / Chelation / Diabetes T / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Hi, ... if you check my posts, not so much but few of them long will learn about my condition, a terrible systematic candidasis which came out after a 2 years non stop antibiotic treatment of prostatitis without any probiotic taken, combined with a 1 year tuna diet which I believe overload my body with mercury and made my condition even most unbearable. ... ... My usual simptoms were (and few of still ARE, but milder): extreme intollerance to 99% of the foods, covering thiol foods and carbs, especially sugar making me crazy, generating severe anger/depression episodes, combined with an itching an ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: How Reishi and other asian herbs helpt me tremendously to improve my... by JesichasHope   9 days  108
       
      My first thought is your story certainly proves to others proactive living is indeed the most prudent rule. ... ... When taking antibiotics you have to take heavy duty probiotics, it is absolutely necessary in order to keep your gut from being over run. ... ... Secondly, everything in moderation. When you over do anything, and tuna fish is one - expect consequences. ... ... You have not only brought to light your remedies but what not to do as well; both of which shall help many be well. ...   [End]
  • Should i still be chelating with bowel problems? by jboy7185   12 days  42
     
    I’ve already done two rounds of DMSA, about to start third at 25mg every 4 hours. I take vit c, zinc, selenium, vit e, mag/calc as supplements. I’m trying to get rid of lead and antimony. I have stomach pain and intermitent constipation though. I take psyllium with bentonite clay though. I really feel I need to detox these metals or i’ll never get better though. I’m going to take my 25mg dmsa now anyways. I’ve had hair/urine test and mercury didn’t come up so i’m not worried about ALA right now, just getting the lead out.   [End]
    • Re: Should i still be chelating with bowel problems? by Newport   12 days  65
       
      I have stomach pain and intermitent constipation though. ... ... I had similar issues, no need for details right now but you can easily fix that. ... ... First STOP psyllium and clay ASAP. Switch to Triphala and AMLA. This is what I used: http://www.iherb.com/Planetary-Herbals-Triphala-500-mg-180-Capsules/1594 ... ... Triphala contains AMLA so start with that till your bowel movements become normal or better. Can take two or three times recommended dosage. ... ... AMLA is a Lead chelator, so once regular you can lower the dosage and switch out the Triphala for just AMLA.. ... ... Start with 4 Triphala 3x per day ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Should i still be chelating with bowel problems? by jboy7185   10 days  32
         
        I get bad anxiety taking triphala I wouldn’t want to start at that high of a dose. ... ... But I’m half way through a round right now it’s tougher than the others. I’m itchy all over and trouble sleeping but I tried some Algin hope it helps ... ... edit: i don’t think any of the side efx were from the DMSA or chelation, but just cause I ate really shitty food/pie yesterday for mothers day outing. I paid for it all night, feeling better today, took the triphala, b vitamnis, vit e, vit c, zinc, and still at 25mg DMSA. also took charcoal/pectin, and chorella/spirulina superfood for nutrition. and some ...   [retrieve this message]
  • If all the side effects of DMSA hit me (nausea, vomiting, appetite loss)... by CGally81   13 days  80  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    I didn’t have side effects while on round, and ALA didn’t do any of these things for me. But I took DMSA for two rounds - one last weekend, and one three weekends ago. I went 25mg every 4 hours for 3 days in a row. ... ... Last week I got sick for two days, feeling sick to my stomach and having no appetite. This morning, I vomited, have low appetite, and currently I have a chill. ... ... I plan to stop DMSA altogether. I’ll wait at least a month or so, and then try ALA again. My health had improved so much in the past few years that I’d really hate to make a big mistake and screw this up. ... ... Anyone ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: If all the side effects of DMSA hit me (nausea, vomiting, appetite l... by joegrane   13 days  70
       
      DMSA can be tough on the immune system. Some don’t tolerate it well. Also the 25mg dose is not small for the first round. Many get gains while using 12mg DMSA. Remember in the Cutler protocol, ALA is the primary chelator. DMSA is optional except for lead. ... ... I’ve been using an average of 16mg per dose for nearly three years. While that is an unusually low average dose, I have gotten very nice gains. However I know not to use it when I feel I am fighting a cold. ... ... Cutler in his writings has tips for supporting the immune system while using DMSA. ... ... Joe   [End]
      • Re: If all the side effects of DMSA hit me (nausea, vomiting, appetite l... by CGally81   13 days  67
         
        Yeah, I don’t like what it’s done to me. I haven’t gotten sick (as in, from illness as opposed to having health problems) in forever, now suddenly I get a stomach virus followed by another a week later. ... ... What can I do to rebuild my immune system? Currently, trying to eat anything solid makes me feel like I might throw up, and that includes trying to eat vitamin C.   [End]
      • Re: If all the side effects of DMSA hit me (nausea, vomiting, appetite l... by alv   12 days  83
         
        Nausea and vomiting could be FL1953 ( FRY BUG) or babesia. ... ... Read ( search ) FRY -FL1953 and Babesia at personalconsult.com ... http://www.personalconsultcart.com/index.cfm?Action=ViewCategory&Category=5 ... ... If you try to chelate or do liver flushes you are activating the dormant state of this infections.You need a MD or LLMD to give you antibiotics /herbs to kill the infections that are activating.   [End]
      • How long does being sick from DMSA take to wear off? by CGally81   11 days  51
         
        Ack, it’s been two days on my second illness, and on this third day, my forehead feels warm and I still have a reduced appetite. I’m really pissed off at what DMSA did to me. Not saying it’s useless or that it doesn’t help other people, but I apparently don’t tolerate it well, so I tossed it out. But still, I’ve been off round for almost a week and I’m still sick. ... ... How long do you think it’ll be before I’m back to normal and can eat normally again? I got chills this morning on my arms while eating breakfast, and I’m feeling warm now. I really hate this.   [End]
        • Re: How long does being sick from DMSA take to wear off? by joegrane   11 days  61
           
          I’m not so sure you made the right decision to discard the DMSA. As I think I wrote previously, when I am fighting a cold, I have to stay away from DMSA. However it plus ALA have been wonderful for many of my symptoms over my nearly 3 yrs of chelation. ... ... You may be right that DMSA is not going to work for you, at least not at this time. You might be better off using DMPS + LA for a while. Some people, including a close female friend, do okay with a round of DMSA once per month or so. Some add it after many months of other chelators. ... ... HMs cause or contribute to so many different ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: How long does being sick from DMSA take to wear off? by CGally81   10 days  49
             
            I may buy it again off Amazon like I did before. But right now, I am staying off that stuff. It really did not sit well with me. I mean, it’s three days now after my second stomach virus, and I STILL feel like I have a weak stomach. I’m well enough to work, and I don’t want to take another sick day (I was vomiting on Friday), but even with the immune booster I’m taking now and the aloe vera I drank yesterday to help my stomach, I’m still sick. I’m really disgusted with this condition. ... ... I may retry DMSA... many months from now. I’m more likely to retry ALA, but only after I’ve gone severa ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: How long does being sick from DMSA take to wear off? by joegrane   10 days  56
               
              Yes, I take a week off after recovering from any cold before resuming the use of DMSA. Then I use a lower dose on my first round after the cold.   [End]
              • Re: How long does being sick from DMSA take to wear off? by CGally81   6 days  40
                 
                It’s been nearly a full 2 weeks since my last round. I still feel sick to my stomach. It’s not debilitating like it was, say, a full week ago when I was vomiting, but I still feel it, I can feel the vomit in my throat to an extent; basically, I’m really pissed off at what DMSA (well, my reaction to it) has done to me. ... ... I took several grams of vitamin C a day every day to try to help my immune system, I took an immune booster, and I took aloe to try to help my stomach. I even stopped drinking alkaline water and switched to normal water. And I’m still not back to normal. ... ... Do you have any ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: How long does being sick from DMSA take to wear off? by joegrane   6 days  27
                   
                  My close female friend and I have not experienced that. What you are describing is rarely reported in the chelation groups. However, you might post about it in the yahoo FDC group where the shear number of members might give you a chance to find someone who experienced something similar. ... ... Joe   [End]
  • DMSA two rounds so far - stomach bug & depression after 1st, feeling lik... by CGally81   14 days  89  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    Well, I didn’t experience any noticeable major side effects while on round with DMSA, nothing really nasty or weird, not even candida flare-ups. I didn’t increase my dose or anything, I just stuck with what I was doing, figuring it was fine. Every 4 hours. ... ... Well, when I was off round was when things happened. I got depression, broke down in tears at one point and ended up with a stomach bug that lasted the next two days. Eventually things cleared up, and I went to my second round. ... ... Second round, everything was fine on round. Today, though, I’ve been feeling slightly ill, like I might v ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: DMSA two rounds so far - stomach bug & depression after 1st, feeling... by samh69   14 days  79
       
      Well what is the reason people take DMSA? If someone has yet to do a hair test it is dangerous to start taking things like that randomly. Yes Cutler is a biochemist but he has no responsibility to people (ie a doctor is responsible for their patients and follows up with them) so has no commitment to follow up with people. Find a good doc who is interested in autistic kids and helping them so one can be under the care of someone.   [End]
  • Depression on DMSA by CGally81   17 days  124  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    Okay, while I’m not experiencing any nasty phsyical side effects from DMSA chelation, I have been experiencing some pretty bad depression. It’s somewhat come and go, but still not pleasant. ... ... What can be done to prevent or reduce the depression? I saw one person say that taking vitamin C can reduce DMSA side effects. If so, how and how much do I take? Or should I just reduce the dose of DMSA?   [End]
    • Re: Depression on DMSA by red424   17 days  114
       
      take the supplements reccomended in the frequent dose chelation forum. they makea huge difference   [End]
      • Re: Depression on DMSA by CGally81   17 days  107
         
        I currently take the following: ... ... B-complex ... Kelp (contains iodine) ... Magnesium ... Milk thistle ... Liver support complex ... Niacin (the flushing kind) ... Selenium ... Fish oil ... ... Aren’t these supposed to help? What am I missing? (Note: Yahoo Groups is blocked here at work)   [End]
        • Re: Depression on DMSA by joegrane   17 days  100
           
          What type(s) of depression? ... ... Sad, cry, sleepless? ... ... Hopeless, helpless? ... ... Can’t get your butt unglued from the sofa? ... ... Don’t forget to take enough Mg and Bs. ... ... Consider if you need more thyroid support, possibly including Se. ... ... Joe   [End]
          • Re: Depression on DMSA by CGally81   17 days  101
             
            I broke out in tears last week while eating dinner (although I ended up with a major stomach virus that lasted two days, so there’s probably a relationship there). Other than that, just hopeless/helpless. ... ... I do take magnesium (in addition to brushing my teeth with magnesium oil, which undoubtedly results in me swallowing some), and I take a B-complex every day, along with flushing niacin (vitamin B3 in its most potent form). There’s 200mcg of selenium in my whole food-based multivitamin, and I take a 200mcg tab separately.   [End]
            • Re: Depression on DMSA by joegrane   17 days  97
               
              Think about possible low thyroid. ... ... If you have many food or chemical sensitivities, you might want to go with niacinimide vs regular niacin--cf Cutler’s AI book around p 40. ... ... Cutler thinks we should take generous amounts of Mg daily. Some seem to need more while on round. It is involved in making serotonin. ... ...   [End]
              • Re: Depression on DMSA by CGally81   16 days  95
                 
                How come it would be caused by low thyroid? ... ... Anyway, I take kelp every day (too much iodine gives me weight gain, which is frustrating). How much magnesium is a generous amount?   [End]
                • Re: Depression on DMSA by joegrane   16 days  92
                   
                  I didn’t write ”would”. It could be involved. Look it up. Look for a cluster of low thyroid symptoms, maybe that respond to some selenium and a little iodine. ... ... Joe   [End]
    • Re: Depression on DMSA by alv   14 days  74
       
      Please check : ... ... http://www.personalconsultcart.com/webdocs/Items/Details25.cfm ... ... Please check inside if you activated bartonella that is one of the most common infections that gets activate. ... ... There are many infections that will be activated.Bartonella , neurolyme , babesia , ricketsia , parasites etc.You need to treat them in order .Start with parasite first and liver flushes.But be careful as you want to chelate but you will get worst if you have any of the tick borne illneses in your system. ... ... As you use ALA you are activating infections that are present in the brain.They will be r ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Second round of DMSA by CGally81   17 days  59  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    I’d heard of people who have horror stories to tell regarding DMSA, so I wasn’t sure what to expect going in. But, paying attention to how I feel, I think I’m doing fairly well. ... ... I’m taking about 25mg DMSA every 4 hours for 3 days in a row (including at night), with 11 days off inbetween rounds. This is the third day of my second round (I start on Saturdays and end on Mondays). ... ... My first round went generally well. No flare-ups of candida that I could tell, but I did get a stomach virus last week somehow. That might be a coincidence, as said virus had been going around. Emotionally, the ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Second round of DMSA by joegrane   17 days  63
       
      Sounds okay so far. ... ... I take an extra week off when I am fighting a cold. Before i started to do that I’d get a relapse on the first day of my round. DMSA has a negative effect on the immune system. This is generally not a problem in people who don’t have a terrible immune system to start with. Cutler also provides tips for immune support. ... ... ALA is the primary chelator for Cutler; however, he encourages people to use DMSA or DMPS along with it. They reduce the sfx of ALA for many people and supposedly increase excretion. More could be said. ... ... Good luck. ... ... Joe   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Second round of DMSA by CGally81   16 days  63
         
        Last year, I went for 8 months worth of rounds of ALA. I stopped due to side effects that were piling up (perhaps I was too aggressive), and started gradually changing my lifestyle in other ways, such as the addition of apple cider vinegar to my daily routine (it’s said to help with liver, kidneys and adrenals), along with alkaline water. ... ... I’m thinking I may reduce my DMSA dosage.   [End]
  • Opinions on best heavy metal test by AngelofEventide   18 days  44
     
    Everyone has a different opinion: hair test, urine, etc. I’ve always had hair done in the past. Is there a better one that I’m not aware of? Thanks.   [End]
  • Permanent Retainer: Bad? by boochybaby   24 days  150  Dental Support / Ask CureZo / Candida Su / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    I have a permanent retainer on the inside of my bottom six front teeth. I’ve had it there for ten years and I was curious if it could have a negative affect on my body, cause health issues, things of that nature. I can honestly say that I’ve struggled with my health for about that long as well which includes candida overgrowth, hypothyroidism, chronic fatigue, chronic sinusitis, poor immune system, hormonal imbalance, and depression (these are the main problems). I’ve always hated it and know that it leaves a metallic taste in my mouth on occasion. I was actually just recently taking Lugol ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Permanent Retainer: Bad? by red424   24 days  132
       
      I don’t believe it isn’t an issue. ... ... The only time someone said it was was the dentist who removed the amalgam (Who I contacted it to remove it). He told me I was better off with invisilalign and to pay two grand for it LOL. ... ... Some BS about it crossing the center of the body or some shit. ... ... If it makes you feel better you can remove it. I have never heard of or see how it can be a problem.   [End]
  • Of Gold And Microbes by CLEW   24 days  173  Rife / Monatomic / Soil Based / 4 / 5
     
    The Art of Microbial Alchemy ... ... Posted: 29 Apr 2013 04:00 AM PDT ... ... by Gemma Reguera ... ... ... ... “The Great Work of the Metal Lover” display, by Brown and Kashefi (Michigan State University) (top image). Included is the aesthetically-engaging, original glass chemostat used to grow the microbe, a metal manifold for gas distribution, and a heated glass copper column that removes any traces of oxygen from the gas supply. Cupriavidus biofilms and the gold grains they produce are visible at the bottom of the vessel (bottom image). Source. ... In 2001, Kashefi and collaborators published an article in ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Of Gold And Microbes by Newport   24 days  165
       
      iron-reducing microbes can use gold ... ... Yes, it is the microbes job to convert these metals to monatomic form so the [medicinal] plants can bind them and deliver their energy to us. ... ... ---------- ... Not to worry there is always Roundup (TM) to take care of these nasty microbes..   [End]
      • Lethality of Roundup 'Weedkiller' Extends Beyond Plants To Humans, Study... by aging tree   24 days  143
         
        A new report published in the journal Entropy links the active ingredient in Roundup herbicide known as glyphosate with a wide range of fatal diseases.[i] ... ... Glyphosate is the world’s most popular herbicide and is designed to kill all but genetically modified ”Roundup Ready” plants, such as GM corn, soy, beet, cottonseed and canola. Over 180 million pounds of the chemical are now applied to US soils each year,[ii] and while agrichemical manufacturers and government regulators have considered it ’relatively safe,’ an expanding body of biomedical research indicates that it may cause over 30 ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Lethality of Roundup 'Weedkiller' Extends Beyond Plants To Humans, S... by Newport   24 days  143
           
          No report needed. Weeds are all medicinal plants.. the amount of monatomic gold, silver, selenium and other Rare Earth Elements are the key to their effectiveness.. ... ...   [End]
        • Re: Lethality of Roundup 'Weedkiller' Extends Beyond Plants To Humans, S... by CLEW   24 days  132
           
          Now that you mention ROUNDUP, I have a question. While doing some spring cleaning I found there are several bottles of partially used Roundup in my garage! ... ... Jim did the yardstuff and apparently used the Roundup, I thought it was gone a long time ago... Jim passed away over a year ago from cancer, who knows if Roundup didn’t contribute to his illness? ... ... Sooo now does anybody know what do you do with leftover crap Roundup???? I’m afraid to touch it! Is it best to leave it in the corner or take it somewhere? Then what do they do with it? Is there any way to neutralize it?   [End]
  • Hair Loss by ChelatinCanary   28 days  215  Chelation: Cutler / Chelation / Hair Loss / 4
     
    Has anyone else experienced significant hair loss while chelating? ... ... I have lost about 50% of my hair volume, 38 rounds in, and I continue to shed large amounts with every wash. It has become extremely thin, especially on the sides. ... ... I have been trying to figure out if this is thyroid related, a nutritional deficiency, or some sort of chem trail or result of overall liver detox. ... ... I haven’t been having much luck with thyroid support, and am wondering if there’s something I could supplement to stop the hair loss... Or, if it’s just a part of the process, and will eventually taper ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Hair Loss by joegrane   28 days  185
       
      It is not commonly reported but there are some reports of it, including from women. ... ... Have you had Free T3 tested?   [End]
      • Re: Hair Loss by ChelatinCanary   28 days  185
         
        I haven’t had labs done, but I’ve suspected T4 conversion issues/low T3. I’ve posted previously regarding thyroid support, as I’ve been trying to find something I can tolerate while chelating. ... ... I’ve had considerable fluid and weight gain since beginning chelation, along with the hair loss. I haven’t been able to tolerate T3 only meds (synthetic), I’m not getting much result from dessicated thyroid, and iodine put me through the ringer. ... ... I’m taking your advice with the selenium; it just arrived and I’m going to increase my daily intake and see if that helps some. ... ... I’m also wonde ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Hair Loss by joegrane   27 days  168
           
          It is rather commonly thought that we are wise to treat adrenals before thyroid. Maybe you need both and are increasing thyroid too much with a weak adrenal and related systems. ... ... Joe   [End]
  • Dump Phase by ChelatinCanary   28 days  167  Chelation: Cutler / Chelation
     
    I am approaching 40 rounds (or about 10 months) of chelation, and just wondering whether or not I’m going to encounter another dump phase. ... ... It has been 6 years since I had any amalgam in my mouth, and what I have considered to be the dump phase thus far is the intense fatigue and the onset of all my symptoms, 7 months after my amalgam filling fell out. ... ... It has taken me years since that happened to figure out it was mercury poisoning from the filling, thus beginning chelation just last summer. ... ... Am I going to experience another dump phase while chelating? And what is the diffe ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Dump Phase by red424   28 days  204
       
      Stall phase is probably a period where you don’t really feel better. Like hitting a plateau. ... ... Dump phase I think only happens once, though I know its in his book. ... ... Either way. Keep chelating lol.   [End]
    • Re: Dump Phase by joegrane   27 days  149
       
      In more recent years Andy more commonly uses ”stall”. He uses the word ”dump” in Amalgam Illness in the diagram around p 52. The word stuck and so you’ll hear ”dump phase” in the groups. ... ... It is strange how common it is for people to report some early gains and then bumps in the road for 4 months or more. ... ... By around the 1 yr mark things usually have settled down; however there are variables, including the situation where people become too aggressive with doses and get an increase in adrenal fatigue or something. ... ... Joe   [End]
  • Ceramic Fillings and Chelation by pgoody   31 days  47
     
    I have been hoping to do some chelation and have come across the fact that chelation is not safe with mercury amalgrams still in one’s teeth. ... ... I actually had to look in the mirror to realize none of my fillings look metal, and they are all in fact a tooth colored type (most likely ceramic, right?). Anyways, while trying to imagine the procedure I had in order to get these fillings I think I remember having 2 substances put in my tooth for each filling. My guess is that I have some sort of mercury or mercury/silver mix under the ceramic covers. The reason is because one of my fillings ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Started DMSA this weekend by CGally81   32 days  112
     
    I used ALA for about 8 months last year, then stopped when it seemed things were getting worse (early improvements included more energy to the point where I was going for walks late at night, an improvement I am happy to have). ... ... Anyway, yesterday I started on DMSA. I plan to do the 3 days on, 11 days off thing, like I did with ALA (though with that, I quickly moved it to 3 days on, 4 days off). I want to get mercury out of my body before I tackle the brain, since the last time, I got mental symptoms (feeling out of it, various depression at times, being forgetful of simple obvious things ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Started DMSA this weekend by jboy7185   32 days  105
       
      I’m about to start to, but am unclear on the details. You take it every 4 hours right, waking up at night? for 3 days? I’ll get the supplements you’re taking as well. Also do you just take it in lemon juice or what? Thanks.   [End]
      • Re: Started DMSA this weekend by CGally81   31 days  96
         
        Yup, for 3 days in a row, every 4 hours, including waking up at night. ... ... Since I just started with DMSA two days ago, I’m not the best person to give details. What’s more, lots of people have reported side effects from DMSA, and some swear by ALA alone. The reason I stopped ALA despite my gains was because I thought I might have been taking too much and I may have caused damage (to adrenals), so I stopped and attempted to repair the adrenals (I now consume apple cider vinegar in water with breakfast and dinner every day, having originally started it in order to repair my adrenals safely). ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Started DMSA this weekend by red424   31 days  98
           
          I started off going big with high doses. ... ... 25 DMSA, then 12.5 dmsa, then 12.5 dmsa/ala, then 12.5 ala, then 25, then 50 (way too much for me now). ... ... DMSA is great for stirring up yeast. Right now I’m fighting both at the same time. I don’t think my HM problem is too much to not kill the yeast, but I am feeling better with each round on on round. I actually had an occasional studder that is slowly going away with chelation. And oh my god I sleep so much better and have so much less anxiety. Not sure if most of the symptoms are the yeast or heavy metals, nor do I really care. I am starting ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Started DMSA this weekend by jboy7185   31 days  103
           
          I think i’m just gonna start with DMSA first and see where that takes me, my problems are lead/antimony and dmsa is good for lead. Thank you though.   [End]
          • Re: Started DMSA this weekend by CGally81   30 days  97
             
            I’m thinking I also should have started on DMSA first, rather than leaping to the (easier to get ahold of, and cheaper) ALA. ... ... One thing btw, is that the mercury has to leave the body somehow, so liver and kidneys should be in good working order. I drink apple cider vinegar (poured into a cup of water) every day with breakfast and dinner to help the liver and kidneys, and I also use a liver detox product every day.   [End]
  • Gonna start chelation, tips? by jboy7185   33 days  55
     
    I don’t really have the focus to read through hours of text again. I read a lot of the cutler protocol a couple years ago. I have 25mg DMSA tablets, they are expired by a year but I imagine still good they’ve never been opened. ... ... Gonna start at 5mg every four hours in some lemon juice for 3 days, then 4 days off. ... ... I’ll be taking vitamin c, e, magnesium/calc, zinc. Also have algin, and will be constantly doing a colon cleanse with charcoal/psyllium. ... ... Does this sound good? I’m doing this for lead/antimony. I have candida as most do, but I don’t care I know it’s a result of heavy metals ...   [retrieve this message]
  • How to take ALA + recommended brand by FranzFan   33 days  164  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    Hi All, ... ... I have recently started chelation with c. 15mg of ALA every 3 hours. I have noticed some symptoms as a result of this (mainly increased fatigue), so I think it is having the desired effect. ... ... As I am taking very small doses of ALA, I could not find a product that had separate caps with a small enough dose, so at the moment I am splitting up the powder contained within a 50mg tablet into 3-4 parts and taking as separate doses. I wanted to check if the ALA should first be dissolved in water, or if it can simply be swallowed as a powder and then washed down with some water? ... ... Als ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: How to take ALA + recommended brand by joegrane   33 days  169
       
      You’ll find 25mg caps. ... Most divide the caps. ... You’ll find empty #1 sized caps that will work ... ... ALA shouldn’t be expected to dissolve in water very well so I’d avoid that option. ... ... The folks who post our hair tests--LivingNetworks also have low dose caps.   [End]
      • Re: How to take ALA + recommended brand by ChelatinCanary   32 days  123
         
        Joe, do you think cheaper brands of ALA are as effective as the higher priced, more quality ones? ... ... I’ve found that I can tolerate Natrol ALA (only about $5 a bottle, for 100 capsules), because Living Supplements doesn’t make a 100 mg capsule, but I worry that it may not be as effective...   [End]
        • Re: How to take ALA + recommended brand by joegrane   31 days  138
           
          I don’t know. I do know that Cutler suggests that we use the inexpensive Alpha Lipoic Acid for chelation. The R- form might have benefits for other purposes but he does not recommend it for our purpose.   [End]
      • Re: How to take ALA + recommended brand by FranzFan   25 days  119
         
        Thanks Joe. Out of interest, how do you take ALA if not in water?   [End]
        • Re: How to take ALA + recommended brand by joegrane   25 days  97
           
          I mixed it in water with DMSA and ascorbic acid for roughly my first year; however it is not the recommended method. While it works, it is typically only recommended for autistic kids who cannot swallow pills. ... ... Most people purchase empty caps and divide up 25 or 50mg caps of ALA. There are links to youtube videos of this in the Links section of Yahoo’s frequent dose chelation group. ... ... everythingspectrum.com has 5mg caps for autistic kids and really sick adults--those with poorly treated psych symptoms, terrible MCS, etc. ... ... Some of us make up our own capsule combinations. It takes ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by CGally81   55 days  440  Chelation Support / Candida Su
     
    I stopped alpha lipoic acid after some bad experiences with it (though it did give me more energy, which hasn’t gone away), and I’m trying other things. ... ... I’m trying to get rid of the mercury that’s behind my candida problems. I’d been taking kelp for a few months, and I started taking niacin (the flushing kind) about a week ago. I plan to continue this. ... ... I read about people who had success taking niacin to help the body remove the heavy metals (and mercury is stored in fat cells, right? Niacin burns fat cells?), and taking activated charcoal afterwards to help mop up all the toxins and ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by ericbakker   55 days  401
       
      I like activated charcoal (AC), it is an amazing remedy and helps with mercury excretion as well, I have seen this remedy work well with mercury and cadmium, but I didn’t see many results with the detoxification of aluminum nor when used to detox arsenic. Take AC at least one to one and a half hours away from all other supplements or drugs, and this is because it has an amazing ability to attract things to it. It is used in the ER room when a person has had too much of a certain drug, as AC can mop many different toxins from the body. ... A word of caution, your stool may turn very dark or b ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by CGally81   54 days  354
         
        I’d heard about how one shouldn’t take activated charcoal around the same time as other supplements since it would grab those as well. ... ... So the idea would be, take something that pushes mercury out of the fat cells (like kelp) or something that burns the fat cells which contain it (like flushing niacin, which is a weight loss aid from what I hear), and then take the AC to mop it up? Should I take the AC an hour after taking the niacin, or does it not matter when, as long as it’s not with supplements?   [End]
        • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by ericbakker   54 days  326
           
          Why not wait till you have improved a lot before you worry about metal chelation? There seems to be this kind of belief that ”this supplement will achieve this action” and it is assumed that this is how it will work. Why waste your money on all these pills, when it is your diet and lifestyle that need 80% priority? Yes, niacin is a god suppement, but to take it to ”lose weight” or ”chelate mercury” is pretty shortsided, and not much better than to take a drug for this or that symptom. ... I spend a great deal of time in my room with patients just getting the basics right, like sleeping enoug ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by CGally81   54 days  333
             
            Actually, I’ve reached this point because I’ve hit a plateau. See, I walk 90 minutes a day almost every day. I replaced my chair with an exercise ball so I burn more calories sitting down than I normally would. I significantly reduced sugary foods in my diet and eat mostly natural, unprocessed foods. I go to bed and wake up at a normal time, following a routine. ... ... So my diet and lifestyle are fine, easily better than the average person by quite a bit. And yet I’m not making any more progress. That’s why I want to get this damn mercury out as soon as I can, and take candida with it. Everyt ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by red424   51 days  275
               
              I had REALLY bad candida, adrenal, fatigue, leaky gut, and mercury (and some other metals i’m sure). ... ... I got my fillings out (was about 5 weeks ago) and I was barely able to function every day. ... ... I’m doing very well with the candida (some days I feel almost normal). My adrenals and thyroid are much better than 3 months ago. ... ... I started with DMSA, which doesn’t seem to aggrevate the yeast as much as I thought. Order it from VRP, it isn’t too expensive. I still take antifungals which give some die off but nowhere near as bad. ... ... I’m currently on round 2 (I actually screwed up this morn ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by ericbakker   51 days  276
                 
                Yes, chelating can take a long time, it took me about a year to come right after I had 13 mercury fillings removed in the 1980’s. Removing the mercury fillings was a turning point in my yeast infection too, but when I had it done there were no rubber dams, oxygen or any possible patient protection and I suffered the most horrendous aggravations you could imagine. My dentist retired not long after, he got to sick to continue removing amalgam fillings and retired only in his late 50’s. A hair analysis and urinary provocation test revealed that I was loaded with mercury, but also cadmium, ars ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by CGally81   51 days  259
                 
                I made little improvement with ALA, but I haven’t yet tried DMSA. I bought some, and it’s sitting on my desk. I’m not yet in the mood to wake up in the middle of the night to continue taking it during my on rounds. ... ... I wonder if candida builds up a resistance to niacin like it certainly does to everything else. I sure hope not, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.   [End]
                • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by ericbakker   51 days  275
                   
                  You don’t wake up to take supplements! You take them when you are awake, taking DMPS just after you awake is not a good idea, and a sure fire way to feel pretty sick. Be careful with DMSA, while it is not as strong as DMPS, if your digestive system is not particularly strong you can feel nauseous and develop diarrhea easily while on it. Foods like fresh garlic are one of your best if you have concerns about candida resistance.   [End]
                  • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by CGally81   47 days  256
                     
                    Candida develops resistance to stuff like garlic though. Doesn’t it develop a resistance to just about anything (except enzymes)? ... ... Now, I’ve heard conflicting reports on DMSA. I plan on taking DMSA maybe in a month or two. I’ve been noticeably losing weight (people have remarked on it) on niacin, which impresses me. But I plan to get back on straight-up chelation soon. ... ... Anyway, what do I need to know about DMSA, besides the Cutler protocol (take every 4 hours, including in the middle of the night, for 3 days in a row), and that I should start slow, and that it can cause candida flare-ups?   [retrieve this message]
                    • Re: Niacin for mercury and candida? Activated charcoal to help remove it? by red424   43 days  217
                       
                      YES, ... ... After about 4 rounds my candida got out of control. Although 2 days with a normal protocol not as much damage had been done as I thought. ... ... I’m only using ALA now. Although it ”feeds” the yeast (Not too much I imagine) it doesn’t lower neutrophils while DMSA does. I also feel much better on round than off, though a few days into a round I get really tired. I’m going to continue ALA with candida unless I notice any more major flare ups. I don’t have a shitton of mercury, but enough to cause me problems.   [End]
  • Can Heavy metal cleanse be done while silver filings are in? by prestonsmomma   61 days  281  Dental Support / Amalgam Re / Enema & Co / 4 / 5
     
    Hi I am currently doing a colon and parasite cleanse first and cleaning up my diet some. Along with coffee enema’s. ... ... Of course now I am thinking I do need after this to do a heavy metal cleanse. Is there anything safe to use if I have 9 silver filings. There were all placed last year. I wished I would not have believed the dentist because he said they dont have mercury?? So I am kinda pissed. Anyways. ... ... I know I cant do EDTA or anything extreme but would things like: ... ... Cilantro ... Cholerro ... Garlic (already doing 3 cloves) ... ... be okay. ... ... I plan on one day saving up enough money and ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Autism, could it be preventable? by mygutleaks   62 days  283  Candida Support / Chelation / Chelation:
     
    NBC Nightly News, the other night had a segment about Autism and how 1 in 50 children are now being diagnosed. Having delt with a candida infection personally (from extreme use of antibiotics), and reading about heavy metal toxicity (mercury, etc.), parasites, etc., and the SAD, it seems pretty obvious to me why the #’s keep rising every year! Last time i heard it was 1 in 77, now 1 in 50! It’s because AMERICANS ARE EXTREMELY TOXIC! ... ... The GAPS book, Gut & Psychology Syndrome, as well as numerous autism forums online, detail how autistic children are suffering from at least heavy metal ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Autism, could it be preventable? by GetCuredOrDieTrying   61 days  228
       
      Someone should research Dectin -1 polymorphisms in autistic and ADHD children and their mothers. It’s possible that the inflammation associated with candidiasis could cause abnormal fetal brain growth, or alternatively simply causes cognitive disability directly all by itself. ... ... If they find that to be true, the Feds may make an effort to find an actual cure for candidiasis.   [End]
    • Re: Autism, could it be preventable? by joegrane   61 days  254
       
      Thank you for the post. You make excellent points. ... ... These statistics support your thought. ... ... Autism Research Institute treatment parent ratings 2009 ... http://www.autism.com/index.php/treatment_ratings_asd ... ”Detox. (chelation)” 74% report ”got better”, 3% report ”got worse”, 23% report ”no effect” ... The 74% rating is the best of all of the many dozens of listed interventions. ... ... Mainstream medicine is in denial because they are part of the problem! They inject kids and pregnant moms with vaccines containing mercury as a preservative. They put ”silver” amalgam fillings in our teeth whic ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Alcohol Intolerance - Is this a permanent problem? by SB1108   65 days  435  Adrenal Fatigue / CFS, ME, C / Fibromyalg / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    I developed an alcohol intolerance about 6 months prior to being diagnosed with CFS/Fibromyalgia. Before CFS I was able to drink normally. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to treat or manage alcohol intolerance (and please don’t suggest ”don’t drink” - thats how I am currently managing it and I would like other suggestions). I’m not interested in becoming Lindsay Lohan, I would just like to have a glass of champagne at my wedding next year without feeling like death on my honeymoon. ... ... Background: I’ve been doing NB for a year to detox my body from excess copper - which has definite ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Alcohol Intolerance - Is this a permanent problem? by onedaysoon   65 days  362
       
      I have the same issue but I have been doing better since NB. have you tried different forms? I know I can handle beer better than wine. Wine makes my muscles cramp up and hurt, but one beer is okay. Or even a small mixed drink. Sometimes I think it’s the chemicals. I started making my own wine last year so I’m anxious to see if I can handle that. ... ... I think the intolerance will go away once the AF is cured. I’ve had intolerance problems in the past and it always gets better when I address adrenal issues.   [End]
      • Re: Alcohol Intolerance - Is this a permanent problem? by joegrane   65 days  323
         
        Add molybdenum to the list of things to try. Not saying it will be a magic pill, but it may be part of a combo that will help. ... ... possibly related to sulfites and acetaldehyde, especially if candida is a problem. ... ... Any symptoms of hypoglycemia? Remember it can be related to low adrenal problems. ... ... Hg and heavy metals can contribute to all of the above. ... ... ... ...   [End]
        • Re: Alcohol Intolerance - Is this a permanent problem? by SB1108   62 days  290
           
          Definitely terrible hypoglycemia... and definitely have adrenal problems. ... ... I already take molybdenum. ... ... I don’t think candida is a big issue anymore - digestion is much better. ... ... Unless I still have copper in my system, I don’t heavy metals as much of an issue and I don’t see see mercury a cause (based the fact I don’t have amalgams and based on the results of my 5 hair analyses). ... ... My practitioner says there is likely still copper - so I guess I will have to wait it out.   [End]
          • Re: Alcohol Intolerance - Is this a permanent problem? by #155216   61 days  277
             
            If you don’t think mercury is a problem then take a few doses of alpha lipoic acid as a test. ... ... I would not trust the NB people with mercury. Copper and mercury always travel together and mercury is the cause. ... ... Just focus on getting yourself healthy. If you have to abstain from alcohol it’s a very small price to pay for having your health. ... ... ... ...   [End]
            • Re: Alcohol Intolerance - Is this a permanent problem? by joegrane   61 days  303
               
              Be careful, Lipoic Acid is powerful stuff when a person has a mercury problem! I’ve read many disturbing reports, especially from those who still had amalgam present. ... ... We are struggling to keep a 26 yr old mother of two alive. She is suicidal, fatigued, mentally ill and quite brain fogged. This got worse over many weeks as she accidentally used ALA in what she thought was just vitamin E. ... ... A close friend who had been getting nice gains on Cutler’s protocol had a bad setback from accidental use of ALA in a supplement for a week or so. After almost a year she still has not fully r ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Alcohol Intolerance - Is this a permanent problem? by amber1921   61 days  267
       
      I had the same ”problem” a year ago before I even knew about AF. ... Later I found out that I’m extremely hypoglycemic and I think that’s what was causing it. ... I don’t know much about NB and heavy metals connection but if I were you I would look closely at your blood sugar levels and how it reacts to alcohol being present in your system. ... Try to maybe eat very low glycemic foods or avoid drinking on empty stomach. ... Other high protein and high fat foods are very helpful before you drink( I’m russian, trust me:))) ... ... As for me I had to quit drinking for good eventually. ... Hope it would help ... ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Alcohol Intolerance - Is this a permanent problem? by gstm1   41 days  188
       
      Hi, I suffer from very severe MCS and it started off with alcohol. At first I would have right upper quaderant pain for a few hours each time I drank & it got worse, it would last longer each time until it stuck with me and turned into full blown MCS. Since MCS & CFS are related, so they say, I would be very careful. If your body let’s you know it has a problem with anything you better listen. Hopefully you make a full recovery from CFS & MCS is never a problem for you, good luck. Mario   [End]
  • Caught a flu in second round? Coincidence? by kon732   77 days  272  Chelation Support / Chelation: / Flu / 4
     
    Immediately starting my second round round of DMSA, I caught a flu / cold! ... After my third dose of 12.5mg DMSA I started to feeling the symptoms, fortunately I have a medium-strong immune system, so I had no high fever but muscle and head ache, shivers, joints pain and fatigue. ... Is this a coincidence or it’s from DMSA? Beause if it’s a side-effect from round two, then I don’t want to imagine what will happen im my body at round twenty after some months!!   [End]
    • Re: Caught a flu in second round? Coincidence? by kon732   77 days  270
       
      Sorry for my English..   [End]
      • Re: Caught a flu in second round? Coincidence? by joegrane   77 days  221
         
        I’ve been there! I learned my lesson. When I feel a cold coming on I skip the round. It seems that every time I chelated when I was fighting a mild cold, it got worse while on round.   [End]
        • Re: Caught a flu in second round? Coincidence? by kon732   77 days  226
           
          So its chelation that make you catch a cold? I never had a fever 3 years now! ... Shouldnt I worry about the low level of the dose and the fact that I just started and it already messed up my immune system?   [End]
          • Re: Caught a flu in second round? Coincidence? by joegrane   77 days  234
             
            No, the chelation process involves mobilization (kicking up) of heavy metals. Mercury affects your immune system. ... ... There are a variety of things we should do during chelation to prepare and protect the body for the stress of kicking up heavy metals. ... ... Cutler’s book Amalgam Illness contains many tips. ... ... Don’t forget to take appropriate supplements--antioxidants, Zn, etc. Some of us need extra amino acids, etc.   [End]
            • Re: Caught a flu in second round? Coincidence? by joegrane   77 days  259
               
              This Winter I fared better than most people I know. When I felt myself starting to fight something, I added extra supplements, skipped a round of chelation, etc. I’ve now gotten a feel for what my body needs. I suppose the gradual reduction of the HMs have allowed my immune system to do its job more effectively. ... ... Joe   [End]
              • Re: Caught a flu in second round? Coincidence? by kon732   75 days  268
                 
                Appreciating your answer, ... I understand that chelation is a process like everything else.. Different bodies, different reactions, so I should go by feeling and I hope that in time I will learn how to ”listen” what my body needs. ... Thank you Joe   [End]
  • DMSA temporarily stopped hair loss??? by #168985   84 days  197
     
    Hi all, ... ... I had just finished 5 courses of DMSA and was feeling great. I was also using an infrared sauna after having my amalgams removed (they were very small ones). I noticed that a longstanding scalp itch had also vanished and that my hair was thicker than ever. ... ... Stupidly, I took a large dose of iodine (about 32.5mg of iodide) because I had read that it’s antimicrobial. I’ve had candida and a parasite (Blastocystis) so I thought it might help. A few days later, my TSH jumped up (known side effect of iodine) and I started losing some hair. It’s now 4 months after that and I’m still l ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Andy Cutler Protocol Basics - Help! by 5D   84 days  144
     
    Hi, all I’d appreciate some help with the basics of the Cutler protocol. My understanding is that to get set up you’d buy the chelating drugs in powdered gel cap form and then have to redistribute the powder to 3 hour dosages (weigh or divide and put in new gel caps). ... ... Items needed: ... - Capsule Maker ... - Scale (or dividing and measuring method) ... - DMSA, ALA ... - DMPS (? need prescription is it worth it?) ... ... I’m still researching chelation and Cutler protocol and appreciate any more insight on the subjects. I’m trying to find what works the best so please share. ... ... Thanks ...   [retrieve this message]
  • IV Chelation vs. Andy Cutler by 5D   84 days  113
     
    Hi, all. I’m new to chelation in my health quest. There’s a doc in my area that does IV Chelation (EDTA) push therapy. How does this compare to Andy Cutler protocol? ... ... Also, I’d appreciate any info about other chelation therapies that folks have found effective. ... ... Thanks so much!   [End]
  • Mineral supplements while chelating by lloon   85 days  227  Chelation Support / Candida Su / Minerals S
     
    Hi again everyone! ... ... So, as I continue my research into how to heal my body, I’ve learned that chelation can be pretty important in beating candida. But new questions come up and I’d appreciate whatever advice I can get! ... ... As I understand it, some (or all?) chelating agents may remove healthful metals (such as selenium or zinc) from the body in addition to the toxic ones. And that it’s a good idea to be sure to get plenty extra of these minerals while you are chelating. ... ... Okay. I can do that. But here’s the question -- ... ... Should I take a mineral-rich food or supplement at the same t ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Have you ever heard of Natural Detox Factors with nanocolloidal silica? by sam7777   87 days  189  Chelation Support / CFS, ME, C
     
    http://purehealthsystems.com/ndf-moreinfo.html ... ... When listening to the IAOMT videos by Dr. Chris Shade on mercury toxicity he mentioned that his company quicksilver has some sort of a powerful ”functionalized thiol resin silica” compound that is especially good at removing metals more so than zeolite or pectin. ... ... ok, fair enough, but I wanted to see if anyone else at least used this. ... ... Which chemically speaking, nanosized silica particles do have an ability to re-mediate waste. I have a good peer reviewed paper that illustrates it as a an effective environmental cleanup device or chela ...   [retrieve this message]
  • detoxing heavy metals with candida? by Leollipop   89 days  548  Candida Support / Chelation
     
    Hi :) ... ... I am just wondering if detoxing heavy metals is an important part of a candida cleanse? I have read that all kinds of cleanses are good for candida as well as building immune system and all these other things... but whatever! ... ... Anyway i read somewhere that even if you have mild heavy metal toxicity that you can’t rid candida.. I don’t know if i do, but I’m sure anyone would have mild heavy metals how would you not with all the crap put into the air and food?? And if you have candida i guess metals would be suppressing your immune system too making it hard to get better.. I don’t ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by lloon   88 days  515
       
      Anecdotally I have heard that candida sometimes won’t go away until chelation is done, and it can even take months of chelating. I haven’t yet started the process myself, so I can’t share my own experience. ... ... I’ve also heard that bentonite is good for removing toxic metals, and brazil nuts as well. But don’t eat more than 1-2 brazil nuts per day on average. ... ... Good luck! Keep us posted.   [End]
      • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by RONBN49   88 days  476
         
        No need for chelation if you use the bentonite, use it proper, use a quality calcium bentonite clay and do it three time each day for at least 21 days on an empty stomach. The clay should not be white it should be almost a light gray. I can recommend the best brand I have found if interested. Donna Pesin on you tube talks a lot about it but hers is white and I do not recommend white clay.   [End]
        • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by albeit   87 days  450
           
          I take the bentonite daily, one part calcium bentonite to three parts water. Drink 2 ozs. three times a day on an empty stomach, and take psyllium once a week to scrape any buildup away from the sides of your intestines. It’s worked very well to keep my candida in check, plus killed some worms at the same time. I don’t know about chelating, because that’s not what I was using it for. I use it to mop up the toxins from the strongyloides.   [End]
          • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by Leollipop   87 days  421
             
            That’s awesome that it’s working for you hat’s awesome that it’s working for you 3 I’m hearing a lot of positive things about the bentonite and psyllium for detoxing! I’m going to try it as soon as i get my digestion to improve a bit more :)   [End]
          • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by RONBN49   86 days  450
             
            Bentonite is the best thing I have ever found for colon health and with colon health being the primary source of good health, well you figure it out, its great stuff.   [End]
          • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by lloon   85 days  406
             
            When you say you drink 2 oz, do you mean 2 oz of the total mixture, which is 1/4 bentonite? Or do you mean 2 oz of just the bentonite, with 6 oz water added? ... ... Do you get the bentonite that comes hydrated in a bottle? Is that already the correct ratio of bentonite to water? Or do you hydrate it yourself? ... ... Sorry to be peppering you with questions... I just wanna get my process right! :) ... ... Thanks!   [End]
      • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by Leollipop   87 days  426
         
        LOL I’ve never heard of this brazil nut limit before! thanks for the tip and i hope you’re right about the bentonite! (at least for a mild heavy metal case) most of the other options freak me out!   [End]
        • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by lloon   85 days  408
           
          You’re welcome. Here’s where I got the idea about a Brazil nut maximum: ... ... http://nutgourmet.wordpress.com/2010/04/30/brazil-nuts-the-dr-jekyll-and-mr-hyde-of-the-nut-world/ ... ... ”Stick with the recommended quantity of one or two Brazil nuts per day. A whole handful of the nuts could easily boost one’s blood selenium to unhealthy levels.” ... ... However, I don’t know if maybe more is okay (or even preferred) while you’re chelating, since chelation decreases your minerals anyway and you want to restore them...? Does anyone know? Does chelating tend to reduce your body’s selenium?   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by RONBN49   88 days  476
       
      I have candida and may have had it for years. My symptoms have been bad. My heavy metals according to my hair sample showed I was high in a few heavy metals and very high in cadmium. I managed to get the mercury and the lead out but the cadmium was sky high and nothing seems get rid of it. Is it the source of candida? Don’t know? I then discovered bentonite clay and have been taking it for about a month now and will do another test to see if that is effective. I think it will be and have never seen or heard of anything better that this for heavy metals. It certainly got my colon back in ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by Leollipop   88 days  441
         
        Thanks so much! I was planning to take bentonite clay at some point.. I don’t have any really bad symptoms so I don’t think I would need to do anything extreme while i think others do :) I’ll try out the bentonite clay some time soon!   [End]
    • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by Jerome99   88 days  481
       
      Chelation was absolutely necessary for me to get rid of candida, meaning real chelation with DMSA/DMPS/ALA, etc. I wasted a year trying an anti-candida approach before I finally realized that metals were at the root of my problems. ... ... If you are metal toxic, bentonite, chlorella, and other ’light’ chelators alone won’t do cut it. You need real chelators as recommended by Andy Cutler.   [End]
      • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by Leollipop   88 days  459
         
        Thanks a lot for your reply! :) I’m not sure if I am metal toxic as I haven’t got a test, but I don’t have too many symptoms of extreme heavy metals.. my symptoms aren’t too bad at all honestly.. i just have very weak digestion and i tend to get insomnia, and stressed quite easily.. it isn’t as bad as long as i don’t freak out too much.. like it is controllable. When you had heavy metals did you have really bad symptoms with it?   [End]
        • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by CuteLion   87 days  457
           
          insomnia, and stressed quite easily. ... ... This could be caused by heavy metals, this stuff DOES affect the brain a lot. However, did you have exposure (to metals, mercury)? ... ... If you have had exposure to heavy metals, for example, you have or had Amalgam fillings, it may make sense to do a probationary treatment with chelators (DMPS or DMSA) for 3-6 months. A one-time treatment often does NOT let help you to decide (feel) if it helps. For me, for example, while I was fortunate enough to know right away because I had a high mercury value right after the very first DMPS test, those values decl ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by Leollipop   87 days  430
             
            Hi thanks a lot for your reply! I haven’t had too much exposure to metals.. probably my biggest exposure would be vaccines, the rest would just be environmental (which everyone has) though i dont eat much seafood.. however i do realise it doesn’t always rely on the amount of exposure.. but how well your detox pathways are.. so i don’t want to disregard it based on that.. however as my symptoms and exposure are quite mild, i think if anything the metals would only be mild in my case ... ... i do agree that i am supposed to make my own decisions.. it is not that i am trying to find someone to bl ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by CuteLion   87 days  440
               
              Yes, without such exposure you should indeed elsewhere and not at heavy metals. In that case NONE of my recommendations incl. the ”meta” ones apply - heavy metals are special, because there is so much stigma and so little help from medicine.   [End]
              • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by Leollipop   87 days  441
                 
                Thanks a lot! I won’t focus on the metal issue too much then, but will keep them in mind just in case hanks a lot! I won’t focus on the metal issue too much then, but will keep them in mind just in case 3   [End]
      • Re: detoxing heavy metals with candida? by CuteLion   87 days  442
         
        +1 ... ... I had a big Candida outbreak - confirmed by MDs and treated even with systemic antifungals. However, now, after more than 2 years with DMPS (foremost), DMSA and ALA (esp. ALA comes into play later, works in other parts of the body than DMPS, DMSA can be taken right from the start too), I have to say THIS is what helped not just against Candida, but against a myriad of other issues I never thought were treatable, I had thought that’s age (it is not!), but now they are all mostly gone. I dedicate a candle to the DMPS and DMSA gods every week... the other gods up to and including Zeus d ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Just start chelation by kon732   3 mon  509  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    Hello to everybody, ... ... I m new to chelation and have some cocerns. I just have my silver fillings removed and started chelation on Andy’s Cutler protocol, slow and easy. ... So i am on my first round of DMSA 12.5mg every 4 hours, along with vit.C, vit.E, selenium, minerals and spirulina. ... ... 1. It would be extremely convenient if I could take my dmsa on the same days of the week like Mon. Tue. Wed. meaning 3on days 4off. Is it ok or should it be strictly 3on - 3off? ... ... 2. After some rounds on 12.5mg should I jump to 25mg or something between, like 18mg? ... ... 3.Also could I give blood during che ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Just start chelation by joegrane   3 mon  387
       
      3 on 4 off is the most common practice, especially in the beginning. ... ... You’d go to 18mg next or maybe even just 14mg. There is definitely variation in one’s tolarance; however lots of unpleasant stories from those who were too aggressive with dosing. ... ... Zinc and Mg are also on Cutler’s short list of supplements. ... ... Much more could be said. ... ... Joe   [End]
      • Re: Just start chelation by sam7777   3 mon  372
         
        I would not give blood. Inevitably you may have mercury in your blood, it wont help the person who needs the blood.   [End]
      • Re: Just start chelation by kon732   88 days  329
         
        Zinc is in my supplements lists now, but I think I dont need magnesium because my DMSA capsules have 100mg of aspartate magnesium so 6x100 = 600mg per chelation day. (700 - 750 is the most recommended). ... Maybe I should take on my off days?   [End]
    • Re: Just start chelation by kon732   3 mon  337
       
      Thank you for the fast response. ... It seems that chelation will be a long journey..   [End]
      • Re: Just start chelation by ZlatinValchev   3 mon  367
         
        I recommend you to stop taking selenium and spirulina/chlorela because they attach to mercury. You need only ALA-mercury bond.   [End]
      • Re: Just start chelation by joegrane   3 mon  463
         
        If you have a heavy metal problem a safe detox program can be life changing. It has been for me. ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1951581 ... http://onibasu.com/archives/fdc/78041.html   [End]
  • should I just have teeth removed by rjjk   3 mon  669  Chelation Support / Candida Su / Chelation: / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    I just recently realized that I should have the silver fillings taken out of my mouth. I have a lot and a couple big ones. I have no desire to have like 13 drilled out and replaced with more fillings. Could I just have them pulled? can you keep your front teeth which are ok. Then just get partial fake teeth in back? Do you talk to a dentist or an oral surgeon? I desperately want to chelate heavy metals but know that I can’t until I get the metal fillings out. I think heavy metals are causing my candida.   [End]
    • Re: should I just have teeth removed by joegrane   3 mon  588
       
      I’ve never read that Cutler suggests removal of teeth, just removal of amalgam. It is the mercury in the amalgam fillings that are the problem. ... ... Joe   [End]
      • Re: should I just have teeth removed by ecogenie2   3 mon  521
         
        If you can find a good holistic dentist that knows how to drill this stuff out without releasing toxic fumes and metals into your system by all means do it. But, if not pull that tooth. If you have so many to remove I would think about dentures and then learn how to eat without teeth. It isn’t easy to do unless you buy a vitamix, nutribullet and food processor. Someone needs to invent a portable food processor we can carry along with us to eat out.   [End]
    • Re: should I just have teeth removed by stilljillofark   3 mon  477
       
      I am thinking of doing the same thing! ... ... I just heard two days ago that one can not get rid of candida if they have mercury fillings that leak. Mine do. ... ... I do not know if this is always true, or law,...but I have fought valiantly for nearly a year to little avail! ... ... Thanks! ... ... Jill   [End]
    • Re: should I just have teeth removed by Johny Apple Bomb   3 mon  539
       
      I had my filling replaced. The bigger fillings on 2 of the molars required crowns. I wouldn’t replace the teeth. Not until they can grow new teeth with stem cells. ... ... Use a good chelator like Chelorex. After and when replacing the fillings.   [End]
      • Re: should I just have teeth removed by rjjk   3 mon  435
         
        So you recommend replacing the silver fillings with the white? There are a couple that are big which they will recommend a root canal. Just have them pulled and fill what you can? Is the at your suggestion. Has your health improved since you removed your silver fillings? Would love your imput.   [End]
        • Re: should I just have teeth removed by joegrane   3 mon  470
           
          You would get the fillings out because you don’t want additional exposure to mercury vapor. ... ... Boyd Haley debunks the ADA claim: Only minute amounts of mercury are released from amalgam ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnfBhdT7uU0 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WM1c7VSP70 ... Smooking tooth video. ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylnQ-T7oiA ... Explanation of the video by Boyd Haley, PhD Chemistry ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_6ry_ve6Lr4#! ... Video from U of Calgary of neuron cell membrane damage e ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDnfeIwd0wI ... Boyd Haley, former chairma ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: should I just have teeth removed by sam7777   3 mon  530
             
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWF8fPnE4wc ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0A4K_YGJIg&list=PL7YKya_R1ROtMq3NPTaHfbRyzrq39W35U ... ... Chris Shade also adds to the discussion.   [End]
  • Has anyone used the hair analysis services of Dr. Hull? by Desperadonyc5   3 mon  154
     
    Hi All ... I just discovered this site for a hair analysis by Dr. Hull. Has anyone used her service and if so, were you satisfied with the results? ... ... hairanalysisprogram.com ... ... TY   [End]
  • Dr Charles Forsyth - functional practitioner. Any opinions? by FranzFan   3 mon  524  Adrenal Fatigue / Hypothyroi / Chelation / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    Hi guys, ... ... I’m a UK-based member of curezone. I have a complex range of issues including candida overgrowth, adrenal fatigue, low thyroid function and suspected heavy metals overload. Just one of those cases we often see on curezone which is so multi-faceted that I don’t know what I should focus on first, or what is the ’root cause’. ... ... I have been looking for a trustworthy functional practitioner for a while. Based on a few reviews, I am interested in seeing Dr Charles Forsyth. He is a UK-based GP, but with extensive experience in functional medicine + homeopathy, and seems to specialise ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Dr Charles Forsyth - functional practitioner. Any opinions? by MrCuddly   3 mon  462
       
      You may never know the root cause, or may only find out after you’ve peeled back the onion a bit knocking problems of your list. But who cares, as long as you get back to normal? ... ... Iodine and mineral supplementation can help with low thyroid, adrenals (some would even argue heavy metal detox). Colon cleansing helps with a variety of symptoms too that could hold you back no matter what else you’re doing right. ... ... Of course diet is the big variable ”let your medicine be your food and your food be your medicine”. Juicing, more raw foods and superfoods in your diet, less processed foods, ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Dr Charles Forsyth - functional practitioner. Any opinions? by wiredgeneration   3 mon  403
       
      Hiya, im UK too mate... ... ... A friend of a friend was treated by this guy...he was early stage 3AF, at exhaustion stage...the doc got him back to cycling 20 miles a week in about two months. So definitely worth a look at, especially if you know you have multiple areas that need attention and your not in a daily crash cycle like most of us are. ... ... ive been thinking the same about giving him a go...just tread carefully, I was literally destroyed by a ’specialist’ in this area and paid around $6000 for it...   [End]
      • Re: Dr Charles Forsyth - functional practitioner. Any opinions? by dave505   3 mon  468
         
        Two years ago ... when I still got some money I wanted to go seeing him but for me was way too expensive. He,s maybe good but also expensive. My experiences with some of UK ”functional” doctors were positive but incomplete either by lack of real knowledge either by selling products approach before patient real needs. ... They are putting financial interest first. ... They started treating candida as the cause selling a lot of supps without attacking the real problem. ... ... I,ve also heard he’s different but you’ll see finally. Good luck ... ... Dave   [End]
    • Re: Dr Charles Forsyth - functional practitioner. Any opinions? by moofqueen   3 mon  509
       
      Thanks for letting me know how you get on if you go see him. I desperately need to see someone like him, but like you, don’t have much money. ... ... Alexa   [End]
    • Re: Dr Charles Forsyth - functional practitioner. Any opinions? by agapanthus   40 days  130
       
      Hi - not sure if you are still looking for responses here. I went to see Dr Forsyth just 2 days ago. The person who recommended him to me said he had helped her more than any other person. We both suffer from a variety of issues, with the label ME/CFS though I also have diagnosed hypothyroidism. ... ... I am waiting now for a report on my appointment, but I am very happy so far with the way things went. ... ... Yes, it’s a lot of money for sure, but then all private medicine is unfortunately, and if you have tests then that is more on top. It’s very tough in the UK as many of the tests needed are ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Dr Charles Forsyth - functional practitioner. Any opinions? by dave505   40 days  133
         
        Well good for you! ... ... Hope in good results for you keep us informed about the progress. ... ... I’m not trying being rude believe me don’t take it personal ... ... put it this way: you could be in a eastern Europe country, where your salary could barely cover the cost of 2 meetings with a functional/naturopathic doctor(no other money left for your monthly living) where the health system is not even half of the NHS, where no tests like this are available and even CFS/ME is a science fiction diagnostic and everything including a gut infection ”is in your head” and you can’t afford neither the simple ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Dr Charles Forsyth - functional practitioner. Any opinions? by agapanthus   10 days  55
           
          Thanks Dave. ... That is indeed true. I am very lucky to be able to afford to see Dr Forsyth, and only in my case because someone has given me some money as a gift to pay for it. ... ... I have now had a whole range of blood tests done, and they have revealed some interesting things which I am waiting to discuss with Dr F in June. He has already sent me some useful sheets that relate to the findings. ... ... I think it’s helpful to have something to go on now, as I have been ill for 7 years, and some of the symptoms have got worse during that time, especially my stomach pain. ... ... I will try and update ...   [retrieve this message]
  • How long after amalgam removal is it safe to chelate??? by RYANCREST   3 mon  275
     
    Ok you guys, Im taking the plunge. I am having my 3 amalgams removed on March 4. Im excited. I am asymptomatic right now. I wanted to ask, when is it recommended to chelate? I’ve read people who do chelation immediately after removal. Ive also read that the body naturally chelates itself for the first 3 months. So my question is, does anyone have experience with this? and did you start chelation right away or did you wait a while? I am so grateful for feedback. and bless day to you all!!!   [End]
    • Re: How long after amalgam removal is it safe to chelate??? by CuteLion   3 mon  221
       
      I went to the doctor to get DMPS injected the day after the last filling was removed. ... ... Since I have no access to the alternative universes, where other versions of myself may have chosen other paths, I cannot tell you which is better, however ;-) ... ... Since all the other reports you’ll get will suffer from the same problem you’ll just have to bite the bullet and make a decision, knowing that you’ll never know if it’s the best one. That’s life :) ...   [End]
  • Image Embedded I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by sduifvnbss   3 mon  467  Chelation Support / Candida Su
     
    I got the results from my dmps challenge test. I guess I’m really high in mercury/lead and antimony of all things. The mercury makes sense because I had tons of mercury fillings before which were removed. ... ... ... ... So what do I do next to chelate? I’ve been taking edta suppositories and I’m going to get a dmps injection tomorrow. ... I’m trying to destroy my candida and parasites which have destroyed my life and caused terrible symptoms like heavy ocd, anxiety, fear, delusional thoughts, fatigue, laziness, and just a general ugh feeling. I hear you can’t get rid of them without getting rid of t ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by sduifvnbss   3 mon  415
       
      Also on top of this I have horrible constipation and tried everything to get rid of it. This is bad because while chelating/cleansing I have to keep it moving out of me. ... ... When I try to eat good food it makes me sick and angry.   [End]
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    • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by Jerome99   3 mon  374
       
      Hi, ... ... You are correct that until you get rid of the metals, you will not be able to get rid of the parasites and candida. ... ... If I had to give you a short list of what I recommend after my own trial and error, it would look like this: ... ... Chelation: ... #1 = Get rid of any silver dental fillings ... Read Andy Cutler’s book ”Amalgam Illness” ... DMSA ... DMPS (MercOut) ... alpha lipoic acid ... chlorella ... lecithin ... cilantro (after a year or so of just DMSA/ALA) ... ... ... Detox: ... Get in a sauna regularly--stay in 15 mins after your head starts to sweat ... ... Take psyllium fiber every day to keep your bowels constantly ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by sduifvnbss   3 mon  349
         
        Thanks for replying. ... ... I just got back from getting another IV DMPS shot. I tried a coffee enema this morning but the caffeine gives me panic attacks due to my post benzodiazapine withdrawal syndrome. ... ... My diet consists of this rice/meat/steamed or fried vegetables(peas,corn broccoli, carrots) I make every 2 days and eat. I’m focusing on getting the metals out while eating a normal balanced diet. I want to do the anti-fungals a bit later while still chelating. A big problem is my constipation while might be due to parasites. It’s a catch 22. ... ... When I took psylium before it just clogged ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by Jerome99   3 mon  371
           
          I wasn’t able to clear up my worm infection until I took an actual deworming drug (albendazole). None of the natural anti-parasite agents worked, and even the meds pyrantel and vermox (tapeworm med) didn’t work. Knock on wood I am worm-free now as far as I can tell.. I can only imagine how many years I was infested thanks to my mercury-caused lack of an immune system. ... ... Rather than relying on the one-time big doses of DMSA and ALA, you should do like Cutler recommends and take small doses all throughout the day and night. As for the DMPS, that is great that you have a professional who ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by sduifvnbss   3 mon  309
             
            I’m planning on taking anti-parasite drugs when I’m done chelating. I think the parasites may be causing my constipation, every time I try to cleanse I get constipated and super crazy angry. ... ... Is it worth it to take dmsa as well, I’d have to buy some more?   [End]
        • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by CuteLion   3 mon  342
           
          DMPS: very good, no advice necessary. ... ... FOOD: Here I want to say something. ... ... You seem to be like most people today, who get their dietary advice not from their own bodies but from the ”majority opinion”, and the majority opinion is actually a minority opinion, it just got repeated over and over again, with people quoting each other, and very few people left who know where the advice actually really originated. ... ... If you, i.e. your body, knows many different (non-industrial, traditional - but I won’t say ”non-processed” because traditional(!) processing is GOOD) foods, than let YOUR OWN ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by sduifvnbss   3 mon  335
             
            Thanks for responding. ... ... What should I do with the dmps? Should I do infrared saunas with it? Drink lots of water? ... Also, more importantly, do you know how much dmps gets into the intestines, and how much gets into the areas where the candida, parasites and biofilms are? ... ... ”In the past bakeries where my main source of food, these days I would not even notice if all bakeries in the world disappeared.” ... ... Me too, that’s one of the reasons I got into this whole mess in the first place, 3 years ago I was eating nothing but bread products. and it started to give me crazy panic attacks and the ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by CuteLion   3 mon  331
               
              nutrition and vitamins from? ... ... Now you know how it feels to be North Korean - you feel how STRONG propaganda is. And YOU live in a society where information is actually available! ... ... First common sense: If you eat veggies (a), or if you eat the animals who spend all day collecting lots of veggies (b), where do you get more vitamins from? ... ... A quote from the very first website I found when enetring ”meat vitamins” into Google: ”Meat contains high concentrations of fat-soluble vitamins. Many vegetarians need to supplement in order to obtain the daily recommended intake of these vitamins bec ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: I got my DMPS challenge test results today. Now what? by sduifvnbss   86 days  243
       
      Well I decided to do oral DMPS because it would be a lot cheaper than the IV. I’m just waiting for it in the mail. ... I hear it’s just as effective as IV. ... I’m going to be doing it cutler style about 120-200 mg every day. ... ... Any tips/advice? ... ... Also what do you think of algin?   [End]
  • Blood Work Results - Need advice by Aliciajb   4 mon  315  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    Hi, ... ... it is me again. lol ... ... I was going through old lab work ... ... I had a blood test done in 2006 ... ... Results: ... ... Mercury i, ... ... it is me again. lol ... ... I was going through old lab work ... ... I had a blood test done in 2006 ... ... Results: ... ... Mercury 4 Ref: =10 ... Lead 2 Ref: 0-25 mcg ... Arsenic 3 Ref: =60 ... ... I have had all of my mercury fillings removed too. I had two of them. Should I still do a hair analysis? Do I need to chelate? ... ... I have candida, hormone imbalances and fibro. ... ... Thanks ... ... Alicia   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Blood Work Results - Need advice by joegrane   4 mon  273
       
      Those are some of the most common symptoms of Hg so I think you are wise to consider the possible role of Hg as a cause or contributing factor. ... ... If it is Hg I expect to see a brain related mood symptom in the list. Poor stress tolerance is very common, sometimes along with full blown anxiety or bad mood when under stress. ... ... One or another type of depression is common; however, not necessarily at debilitating levels. The person often just has a tendency for being less happy or less motivated to get things done. ... ... Blood tests are useful for recent exposure--accident at chemical facto ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Blood Work Results - Need advice by Aliciajb   4 mon  233
         
        Joe, ... ... thanks so much for the info. LOL I am 38 so pretty close too 40. I wish too I knew what I know 20 years ago. My life would have been quite different. I just got Cutler’s book in the mail today. I have also decide to have a hair analysis done. Waiting on test kit. When you say Hg are you referring to mercury? Also I found this link: ... ... http://www.detoxitab.com/index.html ... ... What do you think of it? ... ... Also where is the best place (cheapest) to buy full dose DMPS if I need it? Thanks so much for all you help. ... ... Alicia :-)   [End]
        • Re: Blood Work Results - Need advice by joegrane   3 mon  262
           
          Yes I’ve heard of a few people who are taking a chance with Detoxitabs. I’ve not heard any bad reports yet, but I’m not rolling the dice personally or with a close female friend. She is still getting Rx. ... ... I’ve heard that you do have to shop around. There are pharmacies that do a lot of business in DMPS and so have better prices. Falls in Seattle is supposedly one. Cutler and a friend Julie Anderson are in that area so I suppose that is why. ... ... You might post the hair test with symptoms list here. ... http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest3/   [End]
  • If you are allergic to Sulfa Drugs will You be allergic to DMPS? by #21834   4 mon  284  Chelation: Cutler / Chelation
     
    If you are allergic to Sulfa Drugs will You be allergic to DMPS? Thanks   [End]
  • Need a really good Chelation product by #21834   4 mon  460  Chelation Support / Candida Su / Fibromyalg
     
    I have candida. fibromyalgia & hormone imbalances. I need a really good chelation product. Anyone have any advice? Thanks ... ... PS I already had all my mercury filling removed. :-) ... ... Should I avoid eating seafood too? Thanks ... ... Alicia ... ...   [End]
    • Re: Need a really good Chelation product by Aliciajb   4 mon  422
       
      Which one to start with: ... ... ALA ... HMD ... ALGIN ... ZEOLITE ... ... or something else. I am going to buy Dr Cutler’s book but would like something good to get me started in the meantime. I am so tired of being sick.   [End]
    • Re: Need a really good Chelation product by Jerome99   4 mon  405
       
      The standards for chelation are: ... ... DMSA ... DMPS (MercOut) ... ALA ... cilantro (use with caution) ... chlorella ... lecithin ... large dose vit C (to chelate lead) ... ... In my experience, DMPS is the best chelator, followed by ALA, DMSA, then the others. But they are all indispensable IMO. Although one should wait a year or so after chelating with the others until using cilantro.   [End]
      • Re: Need a really good Chelation product by #21834   4 mon  383
         
        Thanks Jerome99 - Great Advice. What is the normal length of time I should chelate for? Thanks.. ... ... PS I ordered Cutler’s book last night but probably won’t get it until next week. ... ... Trying to to save to buy everything I need. So I am good and ready. lol ... ... Thanks Again.   [End]
        • Re: Need a really good Chelation product by Jerome99   4 mon  402
           
          I got my 12 amalgams out in July 2011 and have been chelating on and off ever since, and I’m not done yet. So that’s 1.5 years for me so far. I imagine I’ll be going at least another year more. ... ... I was feeling very ’mercury-free’ after a year of chelation and then started taking extra vitamin D (about 5,000iu/day). Suddenly I got mercury symptoms again, like my body started dumping out mercury from somewhere deep. After reading an article on Mercola, it turns out that supplementing with vitamin D drastically raises the level of intracellular glutathione (glutathione = the body’s natural ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Re: Need a really good Chelation product by Aliciajb   4 mon  374
             
            Very interesting. My vitamin D runs low and my DR told me to take 5000 IU daily so that is good news. How do you know when you are done chelating? I don’t even now for sure that I have mercury but I have 2 amalgams replaced and eat seafood so I am assuming I do. I have fibro & candida. I also had a pencil lead that broke off in my hand as a child and the Dr never removed it. He said it would just eventually dissolve which it did put what kind of poison do you get from a #2 pencil (are they some type of graphite)? So anyways I thought chelating would be good to add to my program to be ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Need a really good Chelation product by MarryJ   70 days  213
       
      You should try chelation withoral DMPS from http://www.detoxitab.com / works well   [End]
  • Image Embedded Cutler protocol for almost two weeks, have some questions by Rebuild   4 mon  532  Chelation Support / Chelation:
     
    Hello everyone. I have been chelating as per the Cutler protocol for 12 days. I hear all over the internet "Keep the doses very small, or there will be horrible detox side effects." Well I started with 25mg DMSA and later added 300mg ALA. The first pill I took of DMSA, I had horrible stomach pains and gurgling, but after that I was completely fine. I have had absolutely no ill effects (except a very mild headache a few days ago). I also upped the doses to 50mg DMSA and 600mg ALA, and felt nothing. Today I tried 75mg DMSA and 900mg ALA, and still nothing. I am wondering if this is ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Cutler protocol for almost two weeks, have some questions by joegrane   4 mon  431
       
      Wow those are gigantic doses of ALA, far in excess of the maximum Cutler recommends for folks who have been chelating for many months. I think you are asking for an endocrine ”crash.” ... ... I think you should stop chelating entirely and find the source of the lead. For exampel if it is from water pipes the Pb in your stomach, etc will be better absorbed into your blood when you take DMSA. ... ... Check out the chelation network here and the hair tests. ... http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest3/ ... ... Joe   [End]
      • Re: Cutler protocol for almost two weeks, have some questions by Rebuild   4 mon  389
         
        There is no current source for the lead. From birth to the age of 14, I drank 90% tap water, and I showered unfiltered as well. Our town is notorious for having dirty tap water, my family was just ignorant of it. Our old house was also all painted in lead paint, so I was constantly breathing in lead dust. As of now, everything is filtered, all I drink is spring water, and we live in a new house. Doesn’t mercury attract other metals like lead? Could that be why my lead levels never went down?   [End]
        • Re: Cutler protocol for almost two weeks, have some questions by CuteLion   4 mon  436
           
          Just wanted to say DMSA seems the right thing to take - it is a great chelator for lead, not just for mercury. ... ... If you just started it may not be unusual not to feel much. This takes TIME. For me, I was convinced that mercury was indeed my problem (no issues with lead here) after more than a year of using chelators. The first few times not all that much happened, but after the 4th treatment - in my first 1.5 years I got high doses of DMPS and DMSA as infusions in a University clinic - my body started to react, and very strongly so. After long-term chronic exposure it is not unusual to se ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Cutler protocol for almost two weeks, have some questions by joegrane   4 mon  389
           
          ”There is no current source for the lead. ” ... ... == I’d want to make sure there is no current exposure. You’ll never get better if you have ongoing oral exposure and are taking chelators that will enable the body to absorb it better than usual! ... ... == I know testing for HM stinks, but we have to fight through it. ... ... == Joe   [End]
  • Chipped Amalgam Leaking by Phase   4 mon  502  Dental Support / Amalgam Re / Neurotoxin / 4
     
    I’m sure you guys have seen this post a hundred times but my amalgam tooth cracked. the biodentist I can afford has an appointment 3 weeks away I’m not sure what the best way to dispose of the cracked amalgam is or how to protect myself in the meantime ... ... I’m thinking about looking around for someone to just pull it but I don’t know the downsides other than infection. I’ve heard some people do oil pulling to sterilize with success but I’m unsure about it leeching while I have the others. It’s a lower right molar so I don’t know how it’ll effect the bite if it’s pulled or what’s safe to rep ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Chipped Amalgam Leaking by CuteLion   4 mon  437
       
      ”...getting them all out by drill...” ... ... The worst a dentist can do to you. As you know(?), drilling creates HEAT, lots of heat on the tiny surface being drilled. This in turn creates lots of mercury vapor, and mercury vapor is readily absorbed (90%) by your body (it’s vapor...). Much better to swallow whole pieces of amalgam, that would hardly get mercury into your body! ... They need to use a special low-speed drill and cut and brake the amalgam fillings, not drill them out. I know what I’m warning about, I had 4 amalgam fillings removed by drill ~15 years ago - and only now know why I had ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Chipped Amalgam Leaking by Phase   4 mon  396
         
        Wow Thanks for the good reply cutelion, yes I know its the worst but at the very least she’ll be applying cool water throughout. Its unfortunate I won’t be able to afford a better dentist and even worse they want to give me two possible root canals. She can’t tell if the nerve is infected or not but strongly suspects. I’m considering having these two ripped out they’re the back two molars. ... ... I was preparing to buy Dmps in the detoxi tab form and doing cutlers. From what Ive read it looks like the strongest chemical for recovery. If anyone has experience with detoxi tab Id appreciate some ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Chipped Amalgam Leaking by CuteLion   4 mon  396
           
          barrier ... ... Yeah, sure. You believe waaaaay too much strange stuff, too much credulity... :) ... ... ... As for the rest, it’s hard enough even for a skilled doctor (or dentist) to give an accurate diagnosis, since it’s next to impossible to see what’s going on UNDER your teeth without surgery. For example, forget x-ray, this will detect issues only in the last stages of (bone) decay. On the other hand, no doctor is going to say ”let’s cut it open and have a look” without a VERY good reason. ... ... So, expect even LESS help from this forum, as far as most of your questions are concerned. It will be a ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Kelp and liver support are... definitely doing SOMETHING good for me by CGally81   4 mon  579  Chelation Support / Iodine Sup
     
    After iodine alone made me gain weight (mostly in the gut area), I got very annoyed, but thought that since kelp contains both iodine (which pushes heavy metals out of the body’s tissues and into the bloodstream) and algin (which helps remove heavy metals from the bloodstream, and which I used to take while on the Cutler protocol to reduce side effects), I thought kelp wouldn’t hurt. I was taking liver support while I did. ... ... Well, my stomach has been getting slowly, but definitely noticeably, flatter over the past month. I’m down from size 36 to size 34 pants. It’s really quite incredible ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Kelp has helped me greatly too. by LoricaLady   4 mon  591
       
      How kelp helped me: ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2028070#i ... ... Everyone’s body is different, but I had no side effects with kelp. I would say go slowly, maybe one capsule at a time & build up as/if helpful. ... ... Here is the site that sold me (not literally, they aren’t selling it) on kelp: ... ... http://drlwilson.com/Articles/KELP.HTM   [End]
      • Re: Kelp has helped me greatly too. by CGally81   4 mon  428
         
        My big fear is hitting a plateau. I realize at some point I’ll have to use DMSA or something to target the mercury/heavy metals again, but for now, I’d made some good progress with kelp. Did you ever hit a plateau?   [End]
        • Re: Kelp has helped me greatly too. by LoricaLady   3 mon  455
           
          I’m not sure what you mean by plateau. I targeted mercury long ago with yaeyama chlorella. At first it would make my face look like it had a rash, but then that side effect went away. I take chlorella every day. Also, mega vitamin C and kelp help to rid the body of mercury if you get the right kind of kelp.   [End]
          • Re: Kelp has helped me greatly too. by CGally81   3 mon  423
             
            By plateau I mean to stop making progress and not be able to progress beyond a certain point. That’s happened to me many times with other things. ... ... I’m at the point where I’ve lost enough fat that I can easily feel my ribs (awesome!), but like under it, I have squishy fat that sticks out (which can be sucked in at the right angle, but it’s still there). I’d heard that the ”squishy fat” is common to people who use iodine. Have you had that problem? Does it go away over time? ... ... Also, by mega vitamin C, how much vitamin C? A particular kind of it as well? ... ... And by right kind of kelp, you m ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Kelp has helped me greatly too. by LoricaLady   3 mon  407
               
              When you say you plateau I guess you mean that various things have caused you to get better, but you are not all okay, in your opinion yet. A lot of this is certainly trial & error. I have not been on kelp long enough to say anything except that it makes a world of difference for me. Google Dr. Wilson and kelp. He does recommend Nature’s Way & Solaray only. Maybe you could try gradually increasing your dose. ... ... Have you tried B12, especially if you don’t eat a lot of meat? I tried two brands that have great reputations, including a sublingual one, but I still had charlie horses at ni ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Re: Kelp has helped me greatly too. by CGally81   3 mon  366
                 
                I used to take sublingual B12, but I’m also a big meat (mostly chicken) eater, so if that contains B12, I get plenty of it. ... ... I’m actually at a point where my overall health is pretty decent. I have decent energy during the day, so much that I go for 2 walks a day almost every day, totaling ~90 minutes of walking per day. But I’m still gluten, casein and soy protein intolerant, and if I eat sugary foods, candida flares up - taking Candex stops it. Also, for some reason, on the weekends, or days when I don’t go to work (which includes all weekends), I start to become hungry earlier than no ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: Kelp has helped me greatly too. by LoricaLady   3 mon  385
                   
                  Liposomal C is C plus something like soy lecithin or maybe sunflower products. The lecithin or whatever is fused to the C so that it passes through your GI tract and goes straight to your liver w/o loss. It is very potent, some say maybe more potent than intravenous C. I have certainly noticed a big difference in how I feel when I use the liposomal products as opposed to capsules or powder. ... ... Nothing helps adrenals like Vitamin C and no C helps more than liposomal C. I had read that on Dr. Michael Lam’s site & elsewhere, but when I had an adrenal crash I found it out for myself person ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Forgot to mention vitamin C. by LoricaLady   3 mon  408
               
              Well, I had been making my own liposomal vitamin C. You can learn how to do that fairly cheaply on Youtube or all over the net. You really should watch the vid on YT from 60 Minutes about the guy from New Zealand who was at death’s door and saved from ”white lung” & leukemia - in spite of doctors’ interference, ahem! - through first intravenous & then liposomal C. ... ... Dr. Mercola is now sellilng a Liposomal product that I have ordered. (It was sold out of stock literally overnight, but I’m sure it will be back.) The thing is I’m not positive the homemade liposomal C really is as good as ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Has anyone ever heard of the supplement Parotid to promote chelaton of h... by Monroe64   4 mon  305
     
    Parotid is a supplement recommended by Vaughn Lawrence, ND. It is used to promote the Salivary glands to chelate heavy metals from the brain and tissues in the body. Has anyone on here ever taken this supplement? Or does anyone know anyone who has taken it? Here is the link to the Heavy Metals Class that this doctor teaches and talks about taking Parotid: ... ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjKD5OftRbc ... ... Thank you for any input you can provide. ... ...   [End]
  • Amalgams, Cavitations, Risks of Tooth Pulling. by sam7777   4 mon  489  Dental Support / Dental Hea / Adrenal Fa / 4 / 5
     
    After recently trying to learn more about removing dental amalgams, via Andrew Cutler, Boyd Haley, Chris Shades, Mercola, and others, I have stumbled upon yet a further complication. ... ... On tuberose.com there is a very adequate explanation of what is considered to be a threat of cavitation or essentially gangrene in the bone marrow of the extraction site of a tooth or root canal, or removal of an impacted tooth. ... ... I had the opportunity 6 months ago to see a biological dentist, but opted out because of the cost and risk of drilling on a piece of mercury. In my sane mind, I cannot see the r ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Amalgams, Cavitations, Risks of Tooth Pulling. by InCharge   4 mon  471
       
      If you see a dentist that does the Mercury removal protocol he will use a rubber dam to catch any amalgam particles. In addition his assistant will have suction tube in your mouth to remove any vapors, or particles. ... ... Cavitations are caused by the dentist not removing the 2 or 3 ligaments that hold the tooth in place, and cleaning anything else that might be in the gum, and washing it out. ... ... In the one I had the tooth had been pulled out long before the cavitation was performed. I was told that my jaw bone was like mush in that area. The dentist cleaned it out,scraped the bone,  a ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Amalgams, Cavitations, Risks of Tooth Pulling. by Marie64   4 mon  465
       
      Hi Sam7777, ... ... If you go to a none pro, or someone careless I would be concerned. ... I went to my Oral Surgeon and had 2 broken infected lower teeth pulled just over 3 years ago. And he knew enough to clean the bone and told me so. I had 16 teeth pulled, he pulled 6 of those teeth with no problems. ... Plus he pulled my daughter tooth that was sayed by another dentist (not root canal) but it did not work after 2 years of having a resin filling put in. She developed a infection that was just about to enter her check via the root. It took him 1/2 hour give or take 5 minutes to clean the area ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Amalgams, Cavitations, Risks of Tooth Pulling. by Marie64   4 mon  429
       
      Hi Sam7777, ... ... Here is a phone number I got off this site: ... http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/find-dentist.php ... If you are looking for an Alliance Dentist that has been trained to follow Dr. Huggins’ Protocol, please call 1-866-948-4638 or fill out this online form and one of our staff will help you out. ... ... Good Luck ... Marie   [End]
    • Re: Amalgams, Cavitations, Risks of Tooth Pulling. by paraboy   4 mon  374
       
      Hi, ... ... First, a Hal Huggins dentist would never cut into the amalgam filling. ... ... They would cut out the tooth surrounding the filling and then, lift it out. ... ... All amalgam fillings have decay under them, so they fall right out. ... ...   ... ... As far as cavitation cleaning, they have to pull the tooth, then remove the periodontal ligamend with a burr tip and not scrape it out. The best way to do this is after getting 100gm IV vitamin C for 3 hours before the procedure to insure no problems and proper healing. ... ... I believe Dr Hal Huggins goes into the protocol here ... ... http://oneradionetwork.c ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Drinking too much water is BAD for health by saywhatagain   4 mon  1,042  Candida Support / Acne / Adrenal Fa / 4 / 5 / 6
     
    We are always hearing about how drinking water will always help improve your health and I have pretty much been following this forever. The thinking is the more water you drink, the more you detoxify your body, so the more you drink the better. I started thinking about a week ago that I could actually be harming my body by trying to drink more water than I feel that I need. Did some internet searches and tons of results came up that drinking too much water can cause health problems and may possibly damage the kidneys. More important than the internet searches though, I just feel like t ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by newmember2004   4 mon  832
       
      Yes, there is such a thing as too much water..However, I think it depends on the diet. With the way a lot of people eat today with the fast food and all it is necessary to drink 6-8 glasses a day. For others who include lots of fresh fruits and veggies i don’t feel it would be necessary to drink all of that. I still go by the urine, if it is too dark, you need water..if it is pale yellow..okay.   [End]
      • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by Pokermaniac   4 mon  756
         
        Yes, to much water in chinese medicine is not recommended. ... ... I drink 10-11 glasses a day. ... ... Balance every way is the key. Candida have nothing to do with high blood sugar, its all about Calcium/Magnesium/Potassium/Sodium/Copper/Zinc balance , but its not all. Even if we have balance , too much vit C can cause low Copper, high copper can cause low vit B6 so low stomach acid will arrive .... ... ... We must count all minerals in every meal !!!   [End]
        • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by lalobear   4 mon  735
           
          Too much water can really mess with your electrolyte balance ie: sodium and potassium. There have been reports of people even dying from overloading excessively on just water. Everything in moderation....that’s my motto.   [End]
    • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by blankets   4 mon  760
       
      Too much water was a big issue for me. I was having lots of low metabolism/hypothyroid symptoms to go along with my AF such as constant cold hands and feet, very infrequent bowel movements, foggy head etc. ... ... I fixed pretty much all of those in just a few days by limiting my water intake and increasing my intake of certain ”warming”, high calorie density foods like coconut oil and even ice cream! ... ... There’s a book about all of this called ”eat for heat”, i definitely recommend at least checking out the amazon reviews for it if you have the same issues.   [End]
    • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by mark10000   4 mon  722
       
      The problem did not go away when they reduced the water, it was hidden. The fact is the kidneys had been damaged already and flushing the body just highlighted the condition. ... ... Most of us have damaged kidneys, and that is not just those with AF. Toxins, pesticides, insecticides, fertilizers etc, that we eat and drink and heavy metals will have damaged our kidneys. ... ... Also they type of water is important. Tap water is filled with heavy metals, fluoride, inorganic minerals and these contribute to kidney problems. Pure H2O is the only water we should be drinking and 4 liters and over to ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by saywhatagain   4 mon  723
         
        Yes, I agree that of course there are other factors that affect kidney health, metals etc. Sure we should drink clean water and previously I would have agreed with you that about 4 liters is a good amount, but now I have realized that drinking this much water has actually been stopping my kidneys from being able to do what they are supposed to do. It is these broad generalizations that we need to get away from. The fact is everyone will need a different amount of water and this can easily be followed by drinking when we are thirsty and no one will ever convince me otherwise ever again. ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by Penelope101   4 mon  714
       
      Fascinating article...just when you think you read it all. A a radio station held a contest to see who could drink the most water in a period of time and a lady died. http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/14/local/me-water14 ... So yeah it can be toxic. I know a lady who hardly every drinks water, so little I can’t believe she is healthy. ... ... Like everything else in life...... moderation, but I bet most people drink too little water.   [End]
    • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by Geoff1981   4 mon  661
       
      Very good point, thank you for posting. ... ... Chinese medicine suggests that we should only drink when thirsty. Moreover, it is important not to drink fluid that is too cold (i.e. colder than room temperature), as this places additional stress on our internal organs. ... ... I make a flask of ginger tea each morning and sip small amounts throughout the day. Warming teas such as ginger are considered beneficial and advocated in both Chinese and Ayurvedic medicine. ... ... Health websites and magazines often recommend that we drink at least X glasses of water every day. This may be useful for some bod ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by Faith110   4 mon  702
       
      It’s true that too much water isn’t good for the body, however those of us with low blood pressure can certainly benefit from a little extra. It is increases fluidity of the blood, allowing it to circulate with more ease. From personal experience, this is especially true with postural hypotension. To avoid imbalancing electrolytes, it’s always good to add a pinch of sea salt to drinking water. Plus dehydration causes some very nasty symptoms. I believe that every body is different, and if you pay close enough attention, your body will tell you what it needs. I don’t force myself to do anyt ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by slowjo   4 mon  597
         
        I live in a dry dessert climate, so I’m not sure what to do. I’m thinking 12-15 glasses is probably necessary.   [End]
        • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by saywhatagain   4 mon  620
           
          Again I say follow your natural thirst and listen to your body. No doubt that you will need to drink more water living in a desert than someone in a humid climate. Someone who does vigorous work or exercises a lot will have to drink more than someone who is more stationary.   [End]
    • Re: Drinking too much water is BAD for health by kushy   69 days  357
       
      Its new to listen but very good message.Thanks for sharing.   [End]
  • Is it okay to open up DMSA & ALA pills and swallow the powder? by #159154   4 mon  287
     
    Will my body adsorb it less or more? Will it hinder chelation at all?   [End]
    • Re: Is it okay to open up DMSA & ALA pills and swallow the powder? by CuteLion   4 mon  305
       
      No problem. I’ve done this regularly because both my ALA and my DMSA capsules contained too much. Only problem is ALA, possibly, because it is an acid - so use lots of water or you may suffer a little :) ... ... Actually, I used to put a little water in a small cup and added the powder. This made it a lot easier to swallow than trying to eat the dry powder directly. You can also safely mix ALA and DMSA (said Andrew Cutler in the frequent-chelation Yahoo forum some time ago). ...   [End]
  • Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by Jerome99   4 mon  1,455  Candida Support / Chelation / Chelation:
     
    Some good stuff in here to complement the Cutler standard. You have to register for his free site but it’s worth it. ... ... http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/13/mercury-detoxification-protocol.aspx ... ... ... ... He also linked to an informative video; lecture given on mercury by a PhD specializing in mercury: ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWF8fPnE4wc&list=PL7YKya_R1ROtMq3NPTaHfbRyzrq39W35U&index=1 ...   [End]
    • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by saywhatagain   4 mon  872
       
      The youtube video was very interesting. Seems like the guy in the video is using a whole different approach to Cutler, uses different chelators and focuses on supporting the body’s own detoxifying capabilities. I like this approach and it seems to make a lot of sense has anyone heard of any of the concepts in this video before, seems like a must watch for anyone with amalgams.   [End]
      • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by joegrane   4 mon  733
         
        I assume you are referring to the one by Chris Shade. We had recent discussions on it in yahoo’s Adult Metal Chelation. ... ... I still have a problem with the notion that the body’s natural detox system is adequate for the high levels of toxins we are exposed to today. I think the increase in cases of autism and some other neurological illnesses suggests that there are problems with the body’s natural detox system’s ability to handle typical exposure. ... ... Then toxins such as mercury further damage the body’s detox and other systems creating a downward spiral. ... ... I doubt that the body’s natura ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by saywhatagain   4 mon  674
           
          Did you watch the whole video? He discusses different types of chelators and he does spend quite awhile discussing r-alpha lipoic acid in the second part of the video. Don’t really know anything about this myself, have never had amalgams but I am interested in this as I want to help people heal and it seems like detoxing mercury is very important for many people who are sick.   [End]
          • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by joegrane   4 mon  673
             
            Actually I read the article on Mercola’s site on Shade. I hope we are discussing the same issue! : ) I did not check out the video. ... ... I agree that mercury is probably a contributing factor in many health problems. Unfortunately it is often so hard to diagnose, takes so long to treat and at least some people are very sensitive to the chelation method. ... ... When I was new to the topic and suspected I needed to chelate lead, I was surprised at how many people had bad reactions to one chelation method or another, including natural things. ... ... Actually some of the worst stories I’ve heard h ...   [retrieve this message]
            • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by Jerome99   4 mon  693
               
              In the video Shade does talk about the use of R-alpha lipoic acid and DMSA/DMPS. He says that the goal is to slowly bring the metal load down using chelators to the point where the body’s own detox systems can step in and take over. ... ... I know from my own personal case that DMSA, DMPS and ALA were absolutely indispensable in my feeling better. When I first started chelating with DMSA, I actually had eye twitches and other obvious signs that mercury was being mobilized. I can’t imagine where I’d be without the help of those chelators.   [End]
              • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by CuteLion   4 mon  706
                 
                Another vote for chelators! ... ... Compared to other people, I was only moderately exposed - 8 A. fillings total, 4 of them for 20+ yrs (removed with full protection), 4 of them for 5-10 yrs (removed without any protection). ... ... When I started (chelation, with a doctor - one that didn’t have only $$$ in the eyes, knew what he was doing AND was not fixated on mercury as the source of all my problems) I wasn’t convinced that it would help too much. I just didn’t know what else to try but knew I had to DO something - waiting was what had got me into trouble, after all. The treatment was accompanie ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by sam7777   4 mon  705
                   
                  My opinion, which I believe at this point critically, cumulatively, is ... ... Cutler is right, ... Haley is right, ... Shades is right, ... Larry Wilson is right, ... ... They are all right. ... ... And Chinese herbs greatly affect this overall process. Shade talks about using herbs to upregulate the enzymes that create glutathione and other anti-oxidant. ... ... You do not hear much about the ayurvedic, West Indian, and Chinese herbs but, about a third to a half of them are ultra potent. If you use them right, they work. And they work against mercury, but not the way chelators do, and not in a safe fashion initial ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by joegrane   4 mon  658
                     
                    Hi Sam, I’m really sorry to hear about your dreadful experience. From your intelligent post I assume you have improved quite a bit since the low point. ... ... I’ve heard too many similar reports in the yahoo groups. However it was still very striking to actually see it happen to a loved one. A close female friend accidentally took ALA for a week in a new formulation of her multivitamin that she got from her doctor. It was a few months after she had amalgams removed so I assume there was still some Hg around for the LA to kick up. Thankfully she did not take the ALA that the dentist gave ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by sam7777   4 mon  630
                       
                      I am about as bad off as I was. Well I am stable, but my mental faculties are pitiful. I have not driven in 8 months because I moved to New York, moved back, and now I am not sure I remember how to drive- especially other vehicles, since mine is broken- that is sorta what I am mentally as of present. ... ... Part of that is poor diet. I have gained weight, and I take it to be both bad and good. I am now better able to tolerate the original amount of poison, but also dealing with the increased risk of weight gain. My hair test shows about 8 mineral deficiency, or borderline. Really stereotypical ...   [retrieve this message]
                • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by Jerome99   4 mon  592
                   
                  CuteLion: Great post. My experience has been so similar to yours, including DMPS being the most effective (albeit no injections for me). ... ... It’s now been 1.5 years since getting my fillings out and starting chelation, and although I thought I was finished I still have a ways to go. Just when you think you’re finally mercury free, your body dumps some more out from somewhere where it was deeply hidden and you’re back to square one again. ... ... I especially noticed this when I started supplementing vitamin D, which increases glutathione levels in the brain, thus causing the brain to detox ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by NM_steve   4 mon  614
           
          I was looking at Quicksilver Scientific’s products, ... and actually 2 of them contain lipoic acid ... (its liposomal r-lipoic). I glanced ... at one product and said to be taken every 3-4 hours. ... Shade has no DMSA in his products. He is using ... the same stuff as Cutler, the lipoic acid. His ... slant is use lipoic and the glutathione system ... (glutathion and transports) to exit the body, along ... with a intestinal cleanse to bind/remove the mercury. ... It makes sense to me, just too expensive. ... ...   [End]
          • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by joegrane   4 mon  638
             
            Cutler specifies the regular ALA not the R-form, I think because the regular ALA was used in the studies he used to develop his dosing recommendations. ... ... Cutler has very specific dosing recommendations based on the half life of the chelator. He also thinks it is wise to take it in rounds--typically a long weekend. We’ve heard some unpleasant reports from those who have skipped night doses, including this member. ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1007420#i ... ... Joe   [End]
            • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by NM_steve   4 mon  592
               
              Hey Joe, ... No questions or anything, just a thankyou ... for all the great info you provided here. ... I am 3 months into Cutler’s protocol and ... doing well. You wisdom has been indispensible. ... steve   [End]
              • Re: Excellent new article from Mercola re: mercury detox by joegrane   4 mon  610
                 
                Thanks for the note. Good luck to you. Keep us informed. There are almost always bumps in the road during the first year, often in the 5-9 month period. Be very aware of fatigue, stress tolerance as you increase the dose. It can sneak up on us. ... ... Joe   [End]
  • Bentonite and dryness by illysmanx   5 mon  735  Chelation Support / Amalgam Re / Ask CureZo / 4
     
    Hi! I’m still alive and doing OK, I posted a message about an insomnia attack. I’m sleeping regularly again and am getting used to a new pattern, of course. It looks like this: ... ... Dark greens, healthy meats, sea and himalaya salts, no breads (a little cracked, mixed-grain ezekiel bread sometimes.), non-chlorinated water (unfortunately it’s got naturally-occuring flouride) :p AND: ... (Daily) ... 1/2 tsp kelp powder ... 1000 mg mixed magnesium malate/Magnesium chloride ... b-50 complex (wide-spectrum) ... 1-3 zinc glycinate capsules @ 30mg ... 1-2 vitamin D3 5000 iu (125mcg) ... Dandylion root and milk thist ...   [retrieve this message]
  • How (and how well) does kelp help with mercury? by CGally81   5 mon  189
     
    I started using kelp a few weeks ago. The last week things haven’t been so good since I tried some mega-high dose probiotic (for several days) that I think caused massive candida die-off that’s still messing with me today, but before I did that, I was doing pretty well - slow weight loss, less hunger, more energy (these things were undone in the past week). ... ... Anyway, supposedly kelp helps by using iodine to push the mercury out of the tissues into the bloodstream? And kelp also contains algin, which helps mop it up and pull it out? Is this how it works? ... ... I plan to keep taking kelp every ...   [retrieve this message]
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