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Reverse osmosis water for CS

by verysugar 29 h 50

Hi, ... ... I have a Silver Well CS generator. I’ve always used distilled water to make CS and the green light stays on for quite some time. I just purchased a portable reverse osmosis water filter that is supposed to remove 95% of the tap water’s fluoride (the main reason I got it) and most other contaminants but when I try to make CS the green light does not go on, indicating impurities in the water. Is this typical of reverse osmosis water? It’s just that I’ve read of others using reverse osmosis filtered water to make their CS at home and was hoping to do the same. The water tastes very cle ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Reverse osmosis water for CS by Esstee 28 h 39

Steam distilled. I wouldn’t recommend anything less. [End]
Re: Reverse osmosis water for CS by kscmac 27 h 26

It does NOT remove volatile organic chemical (VOCs), chlorine and chloramines, pharmaceuticals. [End]
- Re: Reverse osmosis water for CS by verysugar 25 h 25
  
  Why do you say it doesn’t remove chlorine? [End]
  - Re: Reverse osmosis water for CS by kscmac 16 h 18
    
    The R/O membrane does not remove this. [End]
    - Re: Reverse osmosis water for CS by kscmac 11 h 11
      
      This can help in picking a R/O unit-- ... http://www.ag.unr.edu/walker/WebPublications/FS-05-09CSREES.pdf [End]

Re: Reverse osmosis water for CS by Corey 6 h 14

... I have a Silvergen SG-6. I tried using RO water once and the generator would not work. It had to be distilled only. Very sensitive instrument. I can get distilled water at Walgreens for $1.00 per gallon. Probably less at Walmart. ... ... The distilled is cheap enough for me and I do not have to be concerned that something has contaminated my batch of CS. [End]

Re: Reverse osmosis water for CS by ino 5 h 11

I think you may find that if the light fails to light up it indicates nil or minimal electrical conductance in the water due to the water being too pure. The less impurities in the water acting as an electrolyte the less conductance hence the longer it will take for that light to light up indicating electrical conductivity in the water has increased enough for things to work. ... ... I hasten to add here that I don’t own a purchased machine so I stand corrected if the above is not the case, but if the water is too pure it makes electrolysis much harder to start. It will in all probability sta ... [retrieve this message]

Making your own Tetrasilver Tetroxide!

by Exploited Citizen 61 h 44

Well this was an interesting discovery. ... ... A company sells a new ionic silver called Silver Biotics, saying it is in the formula AG4O4 - Tetrasilver Tetroxide. Pretty good stuff! ... ... I looked into the patent formula, patent # 7,135,195. ... ... Anyone out there with a low voltage ionic silver generator will LOVE this. ... ... Take distilled water, make ionic silver as you normally do. ... Filter out any larger particles through a coffee filter. ... ... Now, according to the patent, this is the magic, add a few drops of Hydrogen Peroxide, 3%. ... ... The ionic silver, Ag-, reacts with the H2O2 to form AgO + H2O. ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Making your own Tetrasilver Tetroxide! by panoslydios 58 h 274

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=663878#i [End]

High PPM Colloidal Silver Article Explains why Atoms are better than nan...

by #167371 8 days 152

I found this article on High PPM Colloidal Silver Supplements, it is very interesting, this company explains how new technology actually produces Atom Particle Colloidal Silver, difference in particle size, why High PPM Colloidal Silver Atoms work, they go into great detail about the different methods of production of nanoparticle colloidal silver and have a very strong argument on the Blue Man Hoax. ... ... I have not seen any company explain why the Blue Man Scare is a scam the way this company does. ... ... You can read the article here: ... ... http://www.sbwire.com/press-releases/modern-method-pro ... [retrieve this message]

Re: High PPM Colloidal Silver Article Explains why Atoms are better than... by Esstee 8 days 102

Every now and again someone comes along with new improved products that will revolutionize the world. That is of course under the pretense that these are exclusive to those advertising them. :) ... ... Having said that, based on past history, I’d have to say that I’m a skeptic when it comes to such things. I remember when the HVAC colloidal solution came into the scene. They too advertised unmatched superiority along with a fool proof product in terms of developing argyria. However, as it turned out, these true colloidal silver products not only proved to be no better but worst in many cases th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: High PPM Colloidal Silver Article Explains why Atoms are better than... by InCharge 8 days 108

For those that are looking for effective colloidal silver I highly recommend it. ... ... ... You’ve have a total of two posts in 4 months. That’s total. One for CS, and never mentioned why you can recommend this product so highly. ... ... "Due to its sheer size, the nanoparticle and or silver ion will not be able to restrain the virus, bacteria or pathogen from spreading into the body and may actually get trapped in the kidneys, liver or skin cells, which in turn produces a grey blue skin condition called Argyria". ... ... ... This is bullsh*t. When the "Blue man iss ... [retrieve this message]

Re: High PPM Colloidal Silver Article Explains why Atoms are better than... by ino 7 days 79

Yep, you covered it pretty well I’d say. No further comment necessary, well not from me anyway. [End]

Total bullcrap self-written article trying to promote a bogus product by Dquixote1217 7 days 73

... That self-written news release is nothing but a blatant advertisement of a bogus product and it is as full of garbage as other past attempts here to promote a "single atom" high PPM colloidal silver product. ... ... ... When this company (gold2 live, goldgevity) first tried to burst on the scene at CZ their site was advertising that they used a secret method which involved technology revealed to them by aliens. I kid you not! And they did not know the difference between parts per million and particles. From reading the article, it looks like they haven’t learned m ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Total bullcrap self-written article trying to promote a bogus product by naturesniff 6 days 62

Why are you acting the way pharmaceutical companies act towards colloidal silver? ... This is a well written article, after reading their website it appears to me that you are not only over reacting, but stretching the facts, they admit that a single nanoparticle is 3900 atoms in size, the larger the nanometer the larger the atoms content, you are relating a 250,000,000 atom particle to a single nanometer, they do not state that, the specifically mention that a 300 nm particle could be about 250,000,000 atoms in size. ... Furthermore they have proof from some colloidal silver producers with an P ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Total bullcrap self-written article trying to promote a bogus product by Dquixote1217 6 days 68

Yeah, why would I be skeptical of a company that once claimed their "single atom" technology was revealed to them by aliens? Or that did not know the difference between parts per milion and particles? And then came here trying to present themselves as authorities on colloidal silver? You know, there is a very good reason the the WM has banned multiple user IDs who tried to push their bogus bullcrap about single atom silver solutions. ... ... Using a scientifc paper which says it is "theoretically possible" to have single atoms is about as valid as it would ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Total bullcrap self-written article trying to promote a bogus product by naturesniff 6 days 70

Thanks for your input - I understand your argument but in my reading and doing research all over the internet there are no instruments that can detect silver atoms in distilled water which may explain why the proof that you look for is hard and impossible to come by. ... ... After emailing GoldenGevity, they explained that and also pointed to their laboratory test by ALS Envioromental, they felt they need to prove: ... ... 1. That the metals are in the distilled water ... 2. That the High PPM needed to be confirmed ... ... The worlds largest testing facility confirmed both, not only for the silver, but ... [retrieve this message]

Re: High PPM Colloidal Silver Article Explains why Atoms are better than... by kscmac 6 days 66

The explaination of why you turn blue from silver is inncorrect. There is a paper which has the reason for why this happens, I will look it up and posy it. [End]

Re: High PPM Colloidal Silver Article Explains why Atoms are better than... by naturesniff 6 days 52

”Posy it” I hate to imagine what you are thinking LOL! Please do not ”Posy” me. LOL! [End]

Re: High PPM Colloidal Silver Article Explains why Atoms are better than... by naturesniff 6 days 56

Aside from the humor, I understand that there are reason to turn blue/gray. ... ... The silver nitrates, the silver chlorides, etc., I think what they are saying that in 99 years or so there have only been a few ligitamate cases of argyria, diluted to over the millions of people that have used colloidal silver the the Blue Man Scare is unjustified, coupled with the fact that it may be a genetic condition of people being prone to turning blue. ... ... What if the colloidal silver chemicals trigger the reaction to turning blue if you are already prone to it. ... ... As you see in thier Blue Man Hoax page A ... [retrieve this message]

Tired of the searching, just want an answer. SilverGen or Silver Edge re...

by jwrobel0398 15 days 138

Has ANYONE had ANY positive results using either of these two generators. I’ve read so much info it’s overwhelming and quite honestly, it’s taking more energy out of me than I need to be expending at this point in regards to my health. I simply would like to hear from ANYONE about their experiences with either and if you have anything positive to say about either, PLEASE reply. Either here or to me personally at jwrobel0398@oh.rr.com. Thank you in advance and God bless. [End]

Re: Tired of the searching, just want an answer. SilverGen or Silver Edg... by ino 15 days 121

The truth is...With LVDC units it doesn’t matter what machine you use, a home constructed unit without all those bells and whistles or any of those units you can buy with all those bells and whistles because all make the same stuff, a predominantly Ionic Silver Solution. All the aforementioned units end products will contain the same thing, Ions and Particles, but Ag+ Ions will, or should be, predominant. [End]

Re: Tired of the searching, just want an answer. SilverGen or Silver Edg... by kscmac 15 days 99

Build or have a friend who is in electronics build you a constant current generator for making IS/CS(IS-Ionic Silver, CS-Colloidal Silver) in DW(Distilled Water). This will save you a lot of money! You can buy a 99.99% silver coin(a Canadian Silver Maple Leaf) or spend more for 10 guage 99.99% silver wire. Either way the generator can be built for under $100.00. [End]

Re: Tired of the searching, just want an answer. SilverGen or Silver Edg... by glaxony 13 days 98

CS never fails to stop herpes from breaking out on me if I take it when I start to feel the tingling. ... ... I have been able to stop the flu on day one with it several times. ... ... I used to have pain in my spine that was probably related to a chicken pox infection that I had as a child. It completely went away when I started taking CS. ... ... My hep C viral load count stays low when I take CS. ... ... I have sprayed it on my throat and gotten rid of a sore throat in less than a day when my friends were sick from it for weeks. ... ... I have used it for pink eye and it worked great. ... ... I have sprayed it ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Tired of the searching, just want an answer. SilverGen or Silver Edg... by MrCuddly 8 days 61

The SilverGen has been great for me. I personally LIKE the bells and whistles that enable me to turn it on and walk away until it’s done. Unlike others I NEVER get a yellow batch and I like that it has an automatic stirrer, water quality probe, PPM setting and looks like a commercial device instead of jars batteries and alligator clips. ... ... I’ve had mine for years, and brewed so many gallons of CS, cured so many issues with myself, family and friends, and enjoyed the convenience so much that the extra $50 I spent years ago over a brand with fewer features I consider money VERY well spen ... [retrieve this message]

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collidal silver problems

by jman2007 27 days 178

i have a silver puppy and sota silver maker and they both seem to take longer and longer to make silver with lower and lower ppms ... ... questions ... not sure what im doing wrong ... ... should i be putting a conductor in the water? ... should i be cleaning the wires a certain way? ... Should i be covering the silver as i make it? ... should i be storing them a certain way? ... ... anything else i should do while making or storing the equipment im not sure of? [End]

Re: collidal silver problems by InCharge 27 days 143

The way I make mt CS with Silver Puppy with the stirrer ... ... Distilled water in a QT jar. Nothing should be added to the water, but you can leave a small amount nof the previous batch to jump start the process. ... ... Clean the rods with non metallic scouring pads, followed by wiping with a wet [distilled water] towell to clean any residue from the pads that might still be left behind. Swap the position of the rods after each use for longer rod life. ... ... Set switches to "manual", and "swap" ... ... I normally let this work over night. In the morning I check th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: collidal silver problems by InCharge 27 days 140

Re: collidal silver problems by turiya 7 days 53

How do you test for the ppm? ... [End]

Question about ppm

by stepsahead 31 days 177

I have bought a bottle of colloidal silver and the water was brown. This was a 10ppm - 100 ml ... ... I bought a new bottle 25ppm - 300 ml this time the water is totally clear. ... ... I don’t understand why. I wonder if i have been fooled. Is it possible to have 25ppm and a totally clear water? ... ... Is there any way to check if there are really colloidal silver in the water and is it possible to check the density of colloidal silver. ... ... Many thanks. [End]

Re: Question about ppm by stepsahead 31 days 146

I have found an answear. ... It looks like that clear water means the silver particle are really small and it is the best option. ... ... [End]
Re: Question about ppm by kscmac 31 days 141

IS(Ionic Silver) is clear ... CS(Colloidal Silver, metallic) has a amber/yellow tint [End]

Re: Question about ppm by Esstee 31 days 172

From what I’ve learned, the solutions we commonly call colloidal silver today can come in a variety of colors. Though for the most part, the classic home-brew or low voltage solutions(ionic) are usually clear in color. That being said, there are other cases when colloidal silver can exhibit color. Some good, some bad. ... ... 1) The brown silver solutions(commonly called: nano/Particle or Metallic silver), are most often a tan and darker brown at higher PPM. ... ... 2) The clear colored solutions(usually called: Ionic) aren’t usually colored. Though they can however become brown or dark when tainted ... [retrieve this message]

Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!?

by mattleecarter 32 days 288 Dr. Beck / CFS, ME, C / Alternativ / 4 / 5 / 6

hey guys, ... ... I have been using all stages of the bob beck protocol ( with SOTA instruments ) for 7weeks to try bet my Chronic Fatigue syndrome I have been dealing with for 8months. ... ... Just need some help and support from anyone that has had success with it and If I should keep going. My goal is to do 4months. ... ... my protocol - 2hr minimum of Blood pulsing / Magnetic pulsing daily , drinking 1-2 L of ozone water and 250ml ( sometimes more on bad days ) of SOTA brewed colloidal silver w/ distilled water. ... ... Thanks! [End]

Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by jaguar57 22 days 192

Colloidal Silver can quickly accumulate in the body and then contribute to your chronic fatigue. I recommend discontinuing it. ... Chronic fatigue in itself means almost nothing because fatigue is a primary symptom of most diseases. You have to know the cause of it. If you have the viral type then it is more than fatigue, it feels like a mild form of the flu. That is what I had and here is a quick version of my story: ... I showed all the classical symptoms of CFIDS (Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome which is caused primarily by a virus such as Epstein Barr) since 1980 when I lived in ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by Hadasah 22 days 215

... I’m sorry, but I disagree with what you said about colloidal silver. Silver is only technically a ’heavy metal’. It’s actually a transitional metal, meaning that it doesn’t stay in the body for long. ... I have been using it for a long time with beautiful results for my lungs and any infections I’ve had, whether bacterial or viral. ... ... Here is what the EPA says about silver: ... ... According to the EPA IRIS Report on silver (Integrated Risk Information Systems, 5th page, 1st paragraph) it states that a number of tests were completed to test the absorption and retention of ingested silver in a n ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by jaguar57 15 days 126

the following is from the same paper you refer to. Humans retain 4.4% of silver. ... ... The authors used the data from the dog to estimate how much silver ingested by a 70 kg human would be retained. An ”equilibrium factor” of 4.4% was determined by integrating from zero to infinity a retention equation which assumes a triphasic elimination pattern for silver with the initial elimination of 90% coming from the dog data. The first elimination half-time of 0.5 days was used ”arbitrarily”; subsequent half-times of 3.5 days and 41 days were taken from a metabolic study by Polachek et al. (1960). F ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Has the Bob Beck Protocol WORKED FOR ANYONE HERE!? by JrDavis 3 days 47

Particle Size is what causes retention. ... ... I know there is literature on particle sizes of silver being accumulated in the body. ... ... If you make your own CS and ingest it you wont have this issue. ... ... Beck would of got argyria if this was the case. The man drank it all the time. ... ... But did he buy his silver? No, He made his own. ... ... I think silver ingested along with the blood electrification is a booster. ... ... You’re also not explaining why silver would cause a tumor. ... ... Why would silver cause a tumor? lol ... ... Silver and Gold are the only metals the body can digest. ... ... If you have an issue with ... [retrieve this message]

Stem Cell therapy cures uncureable disease...?

by seedsower 35 days 230 Colloidal Silver / Cancer Sup / Candida Su / 4

Hello friends.... ... ... I do not know where the most relevant place to post this is: ... ... Dana white (millionaire fight promoter) goes to Germany, syas he goes through a minor surgery and cures himself of a debilitating disease that western docs couldn’t cure... ... ... Can anyone explain the science behind this stuff or validate it? ... ... THANKS!! ... ... http://www.mmamania.com/2013/4/18/4240318/dana-white-meniers-disease-a-rod-germany-stem-cell-treatment-cure-ufc-president [End]

Re: Stem Cell therapy cures uncureable disease...? by JesichasHope 35 days 196

You can find more information on this site: ... ... http://www.bsi-germany.com/stem-cell-treatment-in-germany-stem-cell-therapy-germany/ ... ... Very interesting. [End]

Higher PPM CS better after leaving the stomach?

by MrCuddly 35 days 137

Buying a SilverGen a few years ago took me out of the market for commercial CS. But (not to beat a dead horse) I’m still on a mission to see if I can get CS to make it to the small intestine to treat my kids instead of antibiotics. ... ... I understand that: ... ... a) Ionic silver (mostly what you get from home brew) gets transformed in the stomach so it won’t do much further down the line; ... ... b) low PPM silver tends to be more effective than high PPM. This I’ve confirmed personally. ... ... HOWEVER, since my goal is to get as many silver particles lodged in the small intestine as possible to fight th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Higher PPM CS better after leaving the stomach? by Esstee 34 days 143

I’m thinking you’d have better success using reduced colloidal silver than ionic if you’re aiming for stability. I make mine by boiling the solution during processing, however you can convert room temp ionic silver into metallic silver by adding a few drops from a reducing agent such as; corn syrup or invert sugar into your solution, then heating it afterward(just short of boiling). That will turn your otherwise, clear colloidal silver into a gold/yellow colored solution which will be far less susceptible to oxidation etc. ... ... PS. It’s recommended that we hold the silver solution under the ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Higher PPM CS better after leaving the stomach? by MrCuddly 31 days 70

Thanks for the response, but I’m not knowledgeable or adventurous enough to try any chemical modifications. Just trying to find the best thing on the market to try and wondering what that might be. CS is anything but straightforward. [End]

Re: Higher PPM CS better after leaving the stomach? by naturesniff 8 days 28

In my opinion it depends on the particle size. ... ... I tried using atomic particle colloidal silver, and it really works. ... ... The High PPM Value is 3000 to 18000 PPM, but in atom size particles. ... ... According to the sellers of this product its not ionic. ... ... ... The way I understand it, is that atoms penetrate through the cellular walls of the virus due to their super tiny size. ... ... While a nanopartcle can range from 5 nm to 200 nanometers and can exceed 250,000,000 atom per particle, there is nothing like individual silver atoms. ... ... I recommend silver atoms. ... ... I know people who tested positive fo ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Higher PPM CS better after leaving the stomach? by MrCuddly 8 days 24

Interesting - though it’s bacteria instead of virus. Not sure if it matters. I wish you replied earlier - I ordered a gallon of Utopia silver about 30 minutes ago..lol [End]

Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver

by logan2020 39 days 272

Which is better? ... ... Nano-particle silver is smaller can deliver the silver to the body better, and supposedly because it is encapsulated in the water, it will all exit the body after 48 hours without absorption. ... ... True colloidal silver supposedly has jagged edges and may break through the water particle, so therefore the body will absorb some of those silver molecules that are not completely encapsulated in water. ... ... So my question is- do you prefer True Colloidal Silver (aka Sovereign Silver) ... or SilverSol (nanoparticle silver) (aka Now Foods, ASAP Silver Sol) ... ... Brooke [retrieve this message]

Re: Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver by kscmac 39 days 263

A metallic silver particle is a silver particle what ever it is called, a nano-particle(metallic silver) or colloidal silver(metallic silver), silver aquasol(metallic silver). Only the size varies in the production of metallic silver particles. Now those of us who make our own at home can do so with a very low cost. ... The statement “Smaller is always better” when it comes to silver nano-particles, is generally true, but only to a certain point. The actual answer was released in the data within American Biotech Labs ’new patent (# 7,135,195). (The link to the new patent can be found on the c ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver by logan2020 39 days 226

Thanks for the information. So you’re saying you like American Biotech Labs? ... ... Have you tried their products? All of the nanoparticle silver manufacturerers seem to own patents. Just wondering what the differences are. ... ... Brooke [End]

Re: Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver by kscmac 38 days 219

I make my own CS and IS, just giving out info on some. [End]

Re: Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver by ino 37 days 199

The stuff you buy is either produced using HVAC or HVDC and it’s my opinion that neither is similar to the LVDC predominantly ionic silver solution as per home produced relative to end product in its content overall. ... ... The bought stuff may contain higher particle content, and any TEM image I have seen are not convincing as per entire volume produced, they only show a fraction of the volume on a glass slide and may not necessarily be representative of particle size and dispersion throughout the entire batch. ... ... Home produced stuff will sill contain particles. It’s also my opinion that both ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver by Esstee 38 days 244

RE. Nano-particle silver is smaller can deliver the silver to the body better, and supposedly because it is encapsulated in the water, it will all exit the body after 48 hours without absorption. ... ... There’s alot of theory and conjecture surrounding the accumulation of silver compounds in the body. Though one of the main theories is that the accumulation isn’t size dependent per say but more along the lines of what form the molecules take within the body and whether or not the body can meet the demands needed to sufficiently expedite these compounds to avoid build-up and/or accumulation ove ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver by kscmac 37 days 191

The nice thing about making your own is you could take a bath in it if you ever needed to! I give out the CS to friends and neighbors for free, and so far no one wants to give back the bottles! I ask and my answer is ”I might need it again!” that pretty much answers it all! [End]

Re: Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver by logan2020 36 days 174

To be honest,I would love to make my own silver, gold, lotions, body butter, but there just isn’t enough time in the day! :) ... ... Besides I think purifying water seems like a complicated process and rather not turn blue by ingesting silver proteins via tap or filtered water, therefore needing YAG lsser treatments to return my skin back to normal. ... ... I rather go with a trusted brand with regular testing of its products. ... ... It’ll be nice if someone made a spreadsheet on colloidal silver by brand, price, strength, and whether it is nanoparticle, true silver, or ionic, protein and posted it he ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Nano-particle colloidal silver vs True colloidal silver by Esstee 36 days 240

RE. To be honest,I would love to make my own silver, gold, lotions, body butter, but there just isn’t enough time in the day! :) ... ... I know what you mean. And I felt the same way when I started on my own colloidal silver journey. ... ... That being said, I’d also add that it takes me a whole of 40mins to make 2L of heat reduced colloidal silver, which provides me with aprox. 10 days worth of treatment. And so I usually make two batches, which amounts to about two hours every two weeks. During which time, involves nothing more than to shut down the process once my timer goes off. To which I’d add ... [retrieve this message]

Trigger's and Jace's Story AND Questions about AFTERCARE of treating PAR...

by sams labs 45 days 472 Pets/Animals / Colloidal

Realized that I probably should’ve posted here instead of AskCureZone, so reposting with new title (It originally was not going to be so long and detailed.) LONG. Thanks for reading. Would appreciate input on the questions at the bottom. ... ... Hi. I am a fairly new lab breeder (have just had my 2nd litter) and have never had to deal with parvo, so I have spent the last 2 weeks educating myself so that we don’t have another tragedy. My momma had a litter of 14. They all grew and thrived and at 8 weeks, they all got a clean bill of health to be released to their new homes with complete healt ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Trigger's and Jace's Story AND Questions about AFTERCARE of treating... by dane lady 44 days 156

No you can’t get parvo from a cat scratch. It’s transmitted by contact with an infected parvo stool or can be caused from a reaction to parvo vaccine. If the stools are solid it’s o.k. to go back to a normal diet. Once a pup has recovered from parvo it’s immune to further episodes of it. The incubation period is about 7 days. For pups showing symptoms of parvo I would give one drop of Lugol’s iodine daily. Vitamin C is also beneficial to give to a parvo pup. Give several times a day because vitamin c washes out of the system fairly rapidly. I’m not a fan of combination vaccines. I ... [retrieve this message]

True colloidal products versus fakes.....

by seedsower 48 days 411 Colloidal Silver / Prostate

Hello friends ... ... I am new here and new to colloidal silver. I am trying to rid myself of chronic inflammation in my epididymis (painful: known as epididymitis). The anti-biotics are not working.....I am searching for a good quality product and came across a site called silver-colloids dot com ... ... After reading it thoroughly in order to understand the concepts, it appears that IONIC silver is not nearly as effective as a true colloidal silver. the site makes many claims: ... ... TRUE Colloidal silver is good for you!! ... most products are not truly colloidal BUT ionic ... Ionic silver is not nearly as ... [retrieve this message]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by InCharge 48 days 372

Article of interest maybe? ... ... ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2052262#i ... [End]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by Dquixote1217 48 days 377

I would not go so far as to call other products necessarily fakes, but it is a bit misleading in most instances when what is mostly ionic silver is referred to as colloidal silver. Having researched colloidal and ionic silver fairly extensively and having a good friend whose company makes one of the two best true colloidal silver products in the world as far as I know, I do prefer solutions that are predominantly colloidal silver, but that is not to say that there are not good mostly ionic silver products out there or that you cannot make your own mostly ionic silver at home th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by InCharge 47 days 354

If you are going to buy Colloidal Silver, DQ’s friend at Utopia would be a good choice. ... ... Not only good product, but the Government attacked him a few years ago, and he and his lawyers sent them packing. ... ... Worth supporting somebody like that. ... ... ... [End]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by seedsower 47 days 322

Friends, thank you very much for taking the time ... ... I have not read the article but will do so now. My issue is a more serious one so I am going to try the true C. Silver. ... ... Ironically many of the ionic silver sellers say ionic is the ONLY way to go and the C. Silver say the C. silver is the ONLY way to go...I do not know if this is ... ... 1. opinion / strong belief ... 2. lack of scientific research on which is more beneficial ... 3. profit motivated statements.... ... ... thoughts? ... ... I am in Canada which makes the cost of shipping PLUS duty an issue BUT I am going to try to UTOPIA and hope that m ... [retrieve this message]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by kscmac 47 days 303

My friends and family use CS for internal use and IS for external use. This has been working very well for almost 3 years. [End]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by Johny Apple Bomb 47 days 327

I suggest you make your own EIS Silver with a good generator Like a Silver Puppy and compare. The silver made with low voltage has both ionic and colloidal. Ionic has benefits that so called pure colloidal doesn’t. If you make your own you will be able to use larger more effective doses for no money other than the cost of the generator. ... ... A generator with a current limiter and an auto shutoff circuit is the best. ... ... http://silverpuppy.com/ ... ... http://www.quantumbalancing.com/real_facts_on_colloidal_silver.htm ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [End]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by seedsower 47 days 303

thanks Johnny ... ... I think making my own is def the way to go if I want Ionic. I have heard abut the silver puppy and will into it more ... ... Again - thanks [End]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by #143129 46 days 283

I’ve used the Silvonic Automatic CS generator from Elixa.com for several years. I think it has the same electronics as the Silver Puppy and produces clear solutions that really work. Elixa even has a model that makes a gallon in about 6 hours with a stirrer. They even have a lifetime warrantee. ... ... They cite some recent research from Rice University that shows ions doing the killing. ... ... When you make it yourself, you can drink lots of it for very little $. [End]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by kscmac 47 days 324

Ionic Silver(IS)and Colloidal Silver(CS) are both useful. I and my family and friends use IS for external use and CS for internal use. IS is more toxic to viruses and bacteria but are also able to get into your normal cells and with the chemicals in the cells( studies have shown that Ag accumulates in tissues as silver sulfides (Ag2S) and silver selenide (Ag2Se)) So CS is what we use to use internally and my wife (who is a allergic asthmatic) nebulizes with CS and has not had an infection in over 3 years, normally she would require 5 to 6 antibiotic treatments per year. Not Good! With CS w ... [retrieve this message]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by Esstee 47 days 364

I just want to put out there that I’ve been in a very similar circumstance than you are in the past as I too was in search of the best CS money could by to treat a bone infection. And so, much like yourself, I did my research, read all I could find on the topic and ended-up ordering Mesosilver from the US. I first tried a single bottle using the recommended dosage and found that it did nothing... I then emailed the company and they informed me that I should up the dosage and that this was common with some of the more severe conditions, and so I ordered two more bottles and tried the recomm ... [retrieve this message]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by seedsower 46 days 293

Hello all, ... ... PM, thanks for the thorough response. I really appreciate it. to be honest, I am a little overwhelmed on where to start.... ... ... liver flush, parasite cleanse, MMS, Iodine, juicing, Ionic silver or colloidal silver and the list goes on and on and on ... ... haha ... ... It seems good health can be very difficult to figure out... ... ... I could go broke and lose my mind much quicker I think... ... ... Indeed, I am going to have to keep researching and looking for answers. your response sits well with me. I am beginning to see that so many paths are littered with dollar signs.....others are not.. ... [retrieve this message]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by Esstee 46 days 288

Glad to help. ... Overall I’d say, don’t give up! ... Given what we now know, it makes little sense to spend large sums of money for wellness. Colloidal silver is quite possibly the most powerful antibiotic treatment I’ve ever used. And it’s practically free! ... All you need is a current regulating diode, three nine volt batteries and some silver wire. You can order everything from places like eBay for well under 75 dollars which would give you several years worth of colloidal silver solution. Then... if you find you want to improve things, you can look at making larger batches with a heated stirr ... [retrieve this message]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by wateroflife 46 days 313

Hi Seedsower, ... ... There is one other modality virtually guaranteed to fix your problems at no cost. I have practised it many times with excellent results. ... ... I did not want to interrupt the silver water posts because I also use silver water occasionally and I wanted to see where the posts went. ... ... I am an enthusiast for things that work and do a good job to fix the problems that cause us to suffer health issues which means I have little faith in western medicine. ... ... The best arsenal I have found is Bob Beck Protocol which includes silver water, EFT (tapping) which can be miraculous with res ... [retrieve this message]

Re: True colloidal products versus fakes..... by logan2020 39 days 219

... There are so many colloidal silver products on the market!!! Do you think we can make a list of all the ones and arrange them by ... ... True colloidal silver ... Ionic silver ... Protein silver ... Nano-particle silver? ... ... It would be of so much help if I could refer to the list before making a purchase. ... ... Brooke [End]

here is the thing..... by seedsower 38 days 247

FIRST - I am no expert ... ... SECOND - even the experts greatly disagree between IONIC and TRUE c. silver....... ... ... here is a cool site that I thought was the answer: ... ... http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/hi-ho-silver/ ... ... ... but read the responses at the end: ... ... ... here is another cool site that I thought was the answer FOR SURE: it has EXACTLY what you are looking for: ... ... http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/truecolloidalsilver.html ... ... ... I thoroughly digested this and said WOW!!!! finally ALL the answers.... ... ... but many people have tried the mesosilver - (supposed to be the best...a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: here is the thing..... by Dquixote1217 37 days 214

I would wager that for every person who says they have had better results from homemade and cheaper products than mesosilver you would find 100 who say just the opposite. I have very, very seldom seen people contend that they have better results with products other than Advanced Colloidal Silver and Mesosilver (the two top rated true colloidal silver products), whereas I have seen scores and scores say that one of the two top products gave them the best results. ... ... I realize that it is hard to wade through all the marketing hype and so-called silver experts - especially with s ... [retrieve this message]

Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)?

by MrCuddly 48 days 482 IBS / Colloidal / Acid Reflu

My twin sons were diagnosed with SIBO (small intestinal bacterial overgrowth) that’s the cause of IBS 80% of the time. We just spend $2000+ for a 10 day supply each of Rifaximin. Rifaximin works because it’s a powerful antibiotic that works specifically in the small intestine and bypasses the stomach etc. ... ... They’re on day 7 and are excited that their miserable symptoms have reduced to the point that they can return to school. Great, excellent! ... ... Except there’s a good possibility this will return, especially with teenagers that will find it hard to stick to a hugely restrictive diet wh ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by InCharge 48 days 534

Can’t speak directly re: SIBO and colloidal silver having had no personal experience. ... ... I can tell you that I wouldn’t take antibiotics regardless of their cost. They have a history of eventually becoming less potent to the bacteria, or virus making you having to take a stronger version. How much will the new version cost. ... ... As for the the different forms of CS: ... ... ... The Colloidal Silver versus Ionic Silver ’Controversy’ ... ... ... Addressed to Ken Adachi ... ... Dear Ken, ... ... I am 73 yeards old, experiment in fringe areas of science such as quantum entanglement, radio astronomy, electro ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by InCharge 48 days 407

BTW, it has been said that CS doesn’t distinguish between good/bad bacteria so a good probiotic should be taken to balance the good, and the bad after the Sibo has been eliminated. ... ... ... [End]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 48 days 414

I completely agree with your comments on antibiotics in general, but this case is a bit different. ... ... Firstly because there isn’t supposed to be ANY bacteria in the small intestine at all - which is why the symptoms are so severe and it’s also so hard to reach and treat. ... ... Secondly, this particular antibiotic is uniquely ONLY absorbed by the lower intestine and doesn’t affect the rest of the body the way other antibiotics do - so none of the usual antibiotic side effects. ... ... No doubt why it’s so unbelievably expensive. Plus the fact that unlike 99.9% of other pharmaceuticals, it actual ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by InCharge 48 days 403

Okay, Most of what you can read on the net don’t use the word "any", but I understand what you are saying. ... ... This site is pretty interesting in that they relate SIBO to pancreatic, and liver issues. With plenty of reference material. ... ... http://www.quintron-usa.com/images/pdfs/Support_Files/Certs_References/SIBO-Uninvited%20Guests.pdf ... ... Here’s hoping you figure it out and the kids get better. ... [End]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 48 days 391

Thanks for the article. Actually this is the first time I’ve seen anyone claim that having a small amount of bacteria in the small intestine is normal. Every other source I’ve read including the official Cedars - Sinai protocol (who have been the biggest body of research and treatment on IBS and SIBO) say the small intestine is supposed to be a ”clean room” with zero bacteria. And there are a number of bodily mechanism in place to make that happen. ... ... In fact they don’t recommend probiotics per se since ANY bacteria is bad bacteria in the SI. And it might be the body’s actual physical ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by InCharge 48 days 425

I can see that it might seem to you that I am trying to shoot down everything you say, but that is not the case at all. Our discussion is a learning experience for me also as I have had intestinal problems for years. I have had several bouts with Ulcerative Colitis over the years. The first two times I knocked it out by doing extended water fasts. I’m not suggesting that this approach would be your answer because I think my problem was More of the immune system being aggravated at my diet and lifestyle. ... ... I also had motivation to try anything other than the doctors recomendation of ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 47 days 480

I’m not saying anything defensively, it’s just that I’ve been reading up on this from the experts at Cedars Sinai, discussing this in depth with the gastroenterologists from John Hopkins that my kids have been seeing, and researching anything I can find regarding homeopathy and SIBO etc. My education has been expensive so if I can use it to clear up misconceptions - why not? ... ... And since 80% of IBS is actually SIBO figured this post might get some interest - particularly since IBS has grown exponentially in a similar arc as the introduction of genetically modified crops in the food supply ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by dave505 46 days 419

Hi mc ... Very sorry for your kids really! Here are my two cents having sibo besides candida and parasites. ... ... Aas you figure it out sibo is a general term for many specific different bacteria overgrowth so two guys having sibo act differently to the same treatment because they have different bacterial (or fungi yeast) overgrowth. ... First important thing is to FIND OUT exactly what bacteria is causing it. Did you managed that? ... ... Probiotics do more harm than good in the beginning or even later cause as you know already some of the bacteria can feed on probiotics. This is different from dye off ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 46 days 365

Dave - The diet was the easy part before the anti-biotic because any misstep caused so much agony that they quickly learned what to avoid and were very diligent with it. They even downloaded a fodmap diet app to see which foods were and weren’t friendly before eating them. ... ... They’ve been taking probiotics all along and they were one of the few things that brought relief. They’re on day 9 of the Rifaximin and feel maybe 50% improvement which is great but they’re still begging for probiotics - and I’m guessing venturing out of the approved diet tho they swear otherwise since they’re sta ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by dave505 44 days 451

Yes I’ve got tested by breath test positive. ... I’m still searching a good lab to help me with stool tests. I know bacteria is in the upper intestines in SIBO and stool tests is mainly for colon but some times it migrates at least this is my experience. I would try to see which bacteria or...is there. One year ago they found enterobacter IN MY MOUTH. It supposed to stay in the intestines right? ... ... I’m not cured since SIBO is accompanied for me with giardia candida and parasites. All diagnosed after 3-4 years of misterious ilness. Done a lot of poor performed tests that did not help at all. F ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 44 days 347

$4000 is crazy money for antibiotics, I know. And including all the testing, doctor visits, prescriptions, supplements etc. We’re already into this at least $7000. Our insurance has a $10K deductible (and we STILL pay $600 per month). Ouch ouch and OUCH!! ... ... At this stage though, I haven’t heard of any other cures for SIBO and my kids have to get back to school. Apparently once you use the Xifaximin as a first course, recurrences are handled with less expensive antibiotics (and hopefully natural cures TBD). ... ... But after all we’ve tried, Xifaximin is the only thing that’s given them su ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by dave505 43 days 348

Yeap ... The costs are crazy really. I’ve also spent thousands with less results. ... ... Unfortunately I can’t help with info regarding CS good source - I’m also searching for one. What I know is shoal be taken short term and the purity the ppm and quantity is important when treating something. ... ... I’m still searching the net cause conventional med gave me antibiotics with not so much success. I’ll let you know if I found something new. Long term rx antibiotics are many times main cause of other problem. ... ... Ifyou can try the ones I put on previous message garlic coconut oil turmeric and Ginger tea ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 43 days 339

I’ll mention it to them, but they’re still 17 yo and don’t have a lot of patience for the tons of stuff they already have to take. Now they take vitamin E, Probiotics, Aloe Vera juice (3 times a day), stuff to repair their stomache lining, peppermint oil, iodine, trace minerals, and two antiobiotics two and three times a day. ... ... And that’s for kids that I couldn’t convince to take a single supplement before this all started. Thanks Monsanto! ... ... [End]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by dave505 43 days 351

please do some research on the net regarding Aloe Vera and SIBO - sometimes is counterproductive - it contains lots of polysacharides. could try ginger tea for inflammation and turmeric - they should be quit cheap. try them ... ... the same with trace minerals and bacteria - Ca, Mg, Fe (iron) is used by bacteria to build biofilm and so harder to eradicate or relapse is more frequent. ... ... im not trying to complicate your life btw :) just to make you more aware. coconut oil is not a pil :) it could be taken with food. ... ... ok, i’ll stop here [End]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 43 days 336

Don’t stop - keep it coming! Their doctor prescribed the Aloe Vera so it’s hard to argue against at the moment, but I’ll look into it. Very good info on trace minerals also. I couldn’t live without em - but maybe not helpful for SIBO. The kids have taken tumeric in the past and it’s helped. ... ... Also the doctor wants them to see an endocrinologist since it’s messed with their hormones too. Their testosterone levels are low among others - any ideas? [End]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by dave505 43 days 381

No surprise with low testosterone ... ... Any infection in the body but especially those in the gut - bacteria yeast parasites - cause inflammations and a lot of toxins. Both inflammation and toxins put pressure on adrenals which will have to produce more cortisol to control inflammation than other hormone. You can find more info on the net. The idea is the more you control inflammation and toxins - infection - the more adrenals are free to produce sexua| hormones. At least this was the best explanation I accept besides nasty chemicals in food nowadays. ... ... A la long if infection is not discover ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 41 days 337

Dave - thanks, good stuff. The kids keep insisting we take them to an endocrynologist and forget all this ”natural fennel seed” junk that’s getting us nowhere.. This is helpful ammunition. ... ... I’m sure anything a doctor would do to (try to) help with their hormones before the SIBO stuff is under control would only do harm. ... ... Since the kids used to eat lots of sushi (and not always from the best sources) I’ve always thought parasites had something to do with this too. Unfortunately when the doctor says there’s no evidence of parasites, it was hard to keep them on a parasite cleanse - ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by kscmac 48 days 429

Can’t see your pics!! You can use Faraday’s Law to know how much (mg) PPM of silver is in your beaker. You must have a constant current supply and a timer & a scale to weigh your anode(before & after) to get a accurate reading. I have been using silver cloth, Resistivity is less than 0.25 Ohm/sq. I have a Silver bandaid made out of this applied over a wound(a neighbor who has diabetes and an open ulceration from the knee to the top of her ankle. I put a copper cathode(have also used a stainless) on the backside of leg opposite of wound, applied power (with what Dr. Robert O. Becker, M.D. e ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by Kcirla 43 days 355

Good advice by dave505 regarding raw garlic, turmeric and coconut oil. ... I believe those affect less friendly flora than colloidal silver. ... Even though I don’t like to recommend supplements and prefer to rely on herbs and foods, I’d say supplementing with betaine HCL during meals is key in keeping the upper small intestine sterile. Lack of stomach acid is almost always present in something like SIBO. ... Some homemade goat kefir would be beneficial, especially if you suspect candida issues. I don’t quite believe the theory that pathogens feed on friendly bacteria. Kefir is actually a proven an ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 43 days 335

Interesting - I’ll look into betaine HCL. Lack of stomach acid IS a big cause of SIBO. They’re about to start taking digestive enzymes with every meal but this might even be better. [End]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by FONDUES 10 days 97

There are herbs garlic, berberine, neem , oregano oil 3 times a day seriously the best way I think it is just put them both on SCD diet read Breaking the viscious cycle the SCD diet is in the book The new book that is great is the SCD Lifestyle [End]

Re: Does Colloidal Silver work for SIBO (IBS)? by MrCuddly 8 days 73

Is the SCD diet supposed to be better for SIBO than FODMAP? [End]

You've Heard About Colloidal Silver - But How About Colloidal Gold?

by Dquixote1217 58 days 378 Colloidal Silver / Supplement / News

... ... You’ve Heard About the Wonders of Colloidal Silver - But How About Colloidal Gold? ... ... by Tony Isaacs ... ... ( The Best Years in Life) You’ve probably heard about the wonders of colloidal silver - but how about its precious metal sister colloidal gold? Colloidal gold, which is tasteless and non-toxic, has some amazing benefits of its own for a wide variety of health applications and a long history of use – often in combination with its colloidal sister silver. ... ... Colloidal Gold Enhances Mental Ability, Focus and Mood ... ... Perhaps the most amazing health benefi ... [retrieve this message]

Re: You've Heard About Colloidal Silver - But How About Colloidal Gold? by kscmac 58 days 310

My wife and myself have been using CG for a year now. The wife has RA and the CG helps reduce her joint pain and swelling by 85%, it helps my damaged spine and lowers my pain levels. [End]

Re: You've Heard About Colloidal Silver - But How About Colloidal Gold? by MrCuddly 58 days 321

Since crude colloidal silver has been made for years just by putting silver coins in water overnight - can something similar be done by leaving a Krugerrand in a glass of water? ... ... Of course at $1600 plus per oz, this would also make a great sincerity test for one’s spouse or significant other. Though I recommend starting with one of those gold coins with chocolate in the middle before moving on to the expensive stuff... ... ... But seriously - anyone try it? [End]

Re: You've Heard About Colloidal Silver - But How About Colloidal Gold? by kscmac 58 days 317

I make CG with gold chloride, convert it. The CG from a gold source requires a higher voltage and current to pull off gold. [End]

Re: You've Heard About Colloidal Silver - But How About Colloidal Gold? by trapper/kcmo 56 days 292

whats your recipe? [End]

Re: You've Heard About Colloidal Silver - But How About Colloidal Gold? by kscmac 56 days 302

CG ... My favorite recipe is: ... Add 1/2 level teaspoon maltodextrin to 500ml cold distilled water. ... Add 2 ml gold chloride(by weight,Saltlakemetals.com) ... Add 20 drops 1M sodium carbonate. ... Heat in microwave to boiling. ... Done [End]

Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol !

by mattleecarter 60 days 628 CFS, ME, CFIDS / Dr. Beck / Colloidal / 4 / 5 / 6

Hey everyone. ... ... Just need some help and insight. ... ... Ive had chronic fatigue for about 8 months now ( also got elevated LFT test, which im in the process of finding out why ) ... Been doing the bob beck protocol ( minus the ozone water ) for almost 4 weeks. ... ... Ive only noticed in the last few days I have lost even more energy to do my daily things ( 10min walk - 1-4 hours of activity on the computer ) - Cant do that, mostly bed ridden & light movement around the house. ... ... Is this normal? ... ... Im wondering if it could be caused by the bob beck protocol or if my LFT are constantly elevated ca ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by Johny Apple Bomb 60 days 466

The ozonated water is meant to clean out the die off and elimination channels so you will feel better while doing the protocol. You can get a cheap one on ebay. ... ... Maybe you don’t have an infection. Something else could be wrong. [End]

Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by mattleecarter 59 days 408

Yeah my Liver Function Tests are elevated and have been while i’ve been ill, So I feel that the chronic fatigue is due to the problem with my liver. ... ... Do you also this chronic fatigue is due to a problem in the body that doctors cant find? ... ... Do you think it would be worth my wild getting a Ozonated ? Do you know any good brands? How much should I be spending do you think? ... ... ... I havent experienced any bad die off stages yet - fourth week in ... ... Do you think I should continue the bob beck protocol till the doctors find a cause for my chronic fatigue, that way I havent wasted time and ju ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by mattleecarter 59 days 386

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/600mg-OZONE-Generator-Ozonizer-Ozonator-Purifier-Corona-/320623677299?pt=AU_Home_Environmental_Solutions&hash=item4aa6a90f73&_uhb=1#ht_14372wt_1115 ... ... Do you think that is a good ozone generator? ... ... Do you have any good videos or links on Ozone Water ? Im interested in doing more research. [End]

Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by wateroflife 58 days 377

I cannot help you specifically, but a great video spoke about how the liver metabolizes sugars and it was surprising to know how stressed it can become with ordinary foods. It just might increase your knowledge and could cause you to think of triggers. ... ... Google it: Sugar, the bitter truth - 1.5hrs. [End]

Re: Side Effects with the Bob Beck Protocol ! by Johny Apple Bomb 58 days 426

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/600mg-OZONE-Generator-Ozonizer-Ozonator-Purifier-Corona-/320623677299?pt=AU_Home_Environmental_Solutions&hash=item4aa6a90f73&_uhb=1#ht_14372wt_1115 ... ... ... Do you think that is a good ozone generator? ... ... Do you have any good videos or links on Ozone Water ? Im interested in doing more research. ... ... ... JAB ... ... Looks like a good ozonator to me. ... ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=fDlxTAi8sF0&feature=endscreen [End]

Colloid Master AC (from wish garnted)

by Joe S 71 days 333

So today my machine arrived. I cleaned out my previously washed jar with distilled water dumped it.. then filled it with fresh distilled water. I added about 32 ounze of water, to the jar. I turned the PPM to 16 and waited... and waited and waited for it to shut off... (it is supposed to shut off when PPM is reached.) it has now been 12.5 hours... I know slow is supposed to be good for making colloidal silver but 12.5 hours for 32onze is MUCH more than what the instructions say it should take. The problem is they have their estimates for 12ppm is 3-6hours. If i turn the knob down on the ma ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Colloid Master AC (from wish garnted) by kscmac 71 days 267

I would put a current meter in the circuit to see what is the level of current and then use faradays calculator to figure out the time required. [End]

Re: Colloid Master AC (from wishgranted) by Joe S 71 days 227

So I phoned them about the 20hours first run.. and she basically said you shouldn’t use such a high setting 16ppm.. she recommended me to use the 10ppm setting instead and to clean the probes with a clean scotch pad.She also said the solar flares this time of the year affected the colloid, which i find a bit hard to believe... [End]

Re: Colloid Master AC (from wishgranted) by Johny Apple Bomb 70 days 217

Sometimes it takes 4 hours and on rare occasions it has taken 24 hours. This is for 15 ppm with my silver puppy. ... ... Use a paper towel to wipe off the electrodes intead of the abrasive stuff. You don’t want to waste the silver. ... ... ... You might try stirring the fluid. [End]

Re: Colloid Master AC (from wishgranted) by Joe S 69 days 251

I shut it down and made a second batch @ 10ppm ...8 hours later it shut off by itself.nice !!! Now im just waiting on a few parts and I can build my magnetic stir plate and make bigger batches [End]

BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ?

by mattleecarter 72 days 800 CFS, ME, CFIDS / Dr. Beck / Colloidal / 4 / 5 / 6

Hey everyone! ... ... Im suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome for about 7 months now ( my full story is here. http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=2044138 ) ... ... Just started the Bob Beck Protocol a week ago. Just want to know if it has helped anyone with chronic fatigue or fatigue in general? I havent feel any side effects but today I have been hit hard with some fatigue. ... ... Love to hear your stories. Length of treatment / side effects / success? ... ... Thanks! ... ... ps. I have elevated LFT blood results ( liver function tests ). Im seeing a gastroenterologist soon but they have been rising since ... [retrieve this message]

Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by Telman 71 days 535

Tell your gastroenterologist that you have fibromyalgia because 40% of people with fibromyalgia will get IBS type symptoms. Only 2% have IBS in the general population. A gastroenterologist will usually concentrate of the gastric problems and not take into account fibromyalgia. ... ... I have also trialled the Bob Beck protocol: ... ... The blood cleaning didn’t appear to have any benefit in me. ... ... However, I did build a high power electro pulse zapper and the family were amazed that when it was applied to some moles on my neck which I had had for years they dried out and disappeared with 2 weeks. So ... [retrieve this message]

Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by mattleecarter 71 days 458

Thanks for your reply ... I understand that CHRONIC FATIGUE AND FIBRO are very similar, But I dont have joint pain only muscle pain after I do exercise or push myself. I also dont get most of the IBS symptoms. ... ... Why should I tell him I have FIBRO? ... ... How long did you do the BOB BECK PROTOCOL for ? ... ... I imagine that the bob beck protocol is going to take a few months to beat chronic fatigue as it is a very tuff illness. ... ... Thoughts? [End]

Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by Telman 70 days 513

I sorry that my post was imprecise. I too was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in 1994 but another doctor on another day may have diagnosed fibromyalgia. ... ... I have followed a treatment plan for fibromyalgia which was very similar to CFS. ... ... I suffered from all 5 types of CFS over time including gastric but there wasn’t any cure available through my doctor, although I did find help here on curezone. ... ... The tools that helped me most were: ... ... A good not taxing Diet (I chose the HAY diet) ... Plenty of rest ... Relaxation in the afternoon ... Stretch and rhythmic exercise ... Dumping medication for ... [retrieve this message]

Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by JrDavis 71 days 468

Diet, Gluten, etc. ... ... The fatigue could be caused by rouleaux. ... ... Which the protocol would address. ... ... Make sure though that you are getting ozonated water. The water removes the toxins from the blood. ... ... [End]

Re: BOB BECK PROTOCOL To beat Chronic fatigue ? by mattleecarter 71 days 435

I do not have a water Ozonator. ... ... Could I just have Distilled water or Filtered Water, That way its basically pure water? ... ... Do you use Ozonator ? Have you experienced a change ? If so how long till it take? [End]

Home made CS became dark, is it OK?

by mtl777 74 days 295

I made some CS at home using the Utopia Silver kit that has three 9V batteries. I did it for an extended period of time and was able to get it to 17 ppm according to my TDS meter. At first the CS I made was golden yellow in color, but after three weeks in storage it became dark brown. I must admit that at some point in the process a lot of black crud formed on the electrodes and when I lifted the assembly to clean the electrodes some of the crud fell off. So I filtered the water using coffee filter paper as I transferred it to a new glass in order to get rid of the crud. Then I continue ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Home made CS became dark, is it OK? by Esstee 73 days 286

I’m going to venture that something has caused your CS to change. But discovering what may be difficult to figure out(if at all). The main things I’d look at would be cross contamination and light. Both of which could cause the solution to change. On the contamination side, we have pretty much anything that could enter the solution and upsetting the balance of the ions dispersion. On the sunlight side of things we’d be looking at the effects of oxidization by sunlight which will cause the solution to darken. ... ... Having said all that, you could however create your colloidal silver using the ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Home made CS became dark, is it OK? by kscmac 73 days 209

What did you store your CS in? Was it a new bottle or a used one? What was in the bottle before? You have to clean out a bottle super clean to avoid cross contamination. I clean out bottles with soap and water, then wash it out with vinegar, then rinse with tap water then with distilled water and air dry. [End]

Re: Home made CS became dark, is it OK? by wateroflife 73 days 224

Mine always goes dark after a few weeks, but I find it is on the inside of the glass. The solution does not darken. [End]

Re: Home made CS became dark, is it OK? by mtl777 70 days 210

Thanks everyone for your replies! ... ... @Esstee: What is the heat method of making CS? How is it done? ... ... @Kscmac: I just re-used a bottle that previously contained CS which was given to me by a friend. I didn’t think it was necessary to clean it before re-using. ... ... @Wateroflife: You know what, I think that’s what’s happening to mine, too. I tried pouring some of the liquid into a clean glass just now and it’s not dark brown anymore! ... [End]

Re: Home made CS became dark, is it OK? by kscmac 70 days 199

I have my 10 guage 99.99% silver wire in a ”U” shape going through the lid of the beaker, the thermocouple which is my cathode sticking through a tight hole in the beaker lid on other side from silver anode. My magnetic stir bar in the beaker. Fill up to 500ml with DW(distilled water)and turn on hotplate under magnetic stirrer to 96C, once water is at temp I turn on magnetic stirrer to get a vortex thats about 1 to 2 inches down from the water surface. Turn on the power, I always have a current meter in circuit along with a voltmeter. I set my current at 5mA @ 36VDC and let it run. Use Far ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Home made CS became dark, is it OK? by mtl777 64 days 151

Sounds complicated. Is there a tutorial with pictures on this? ... Thanks! [End]
- Re: Home made CS became dark, is it OK? by kscmac 64 days 181
  
  The next tme I make some I will take pictures! should just be a couple of days! [End]

Cloudy water by galacticman 74 days 176

Is normal if you tried to do homeless colloidal silver about 60 ppm the destilled water becomes a little cloudy??? [End]
- Re: Cloudy water by kscmac 74 days 170
  
  20ppm is the max you can get in room temp, the rest will fall out of suspension. [End]

treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol

by mattleecarter 75 days 646 Dr. Beck / CFS, ME, C / Body Elect / 4 / 5 / 6

Hey Everyone, ... ... Ill keep this as short and sweet as possible. ... ... MY STORY: ... Matt Carter, 23years old, 75 kg, Professional working DJ / MUSICIAN, Healthy Lifestyle & Outgoing, From Sydney Australia. ... ... My Chronic Fatigue: ... Suffering from a Unknown Cause of Chronic Fatigue since 2012 Aug. - 6 months prior to that I was sick on a fortnightly basis. ( flue, fatigue, low energy, really bad hangovers, Mind fog. ) ... ... Before I was in a chronic state of Chronic fatigue, I was working as a parttime dj 3-times a week ( usually late nights 9-12pm and later ) / studying a few days a week/ playi ... [retrieve this message]

Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by Johny Apple Bomb 75 days 518

BOB BECK PROTOCOL: ... ... I recently started the bob beck protocol in MARCH 2012 - Using the SOTA Silver Pulser & Magnetic Pulser and drinking Collodial Silver w/ distilled water. 250ml a day ( 8 oz ). Doing each for 2 hours a day. ... ... Im on this forum to see if anyone has any GOOD RESULTS from using the BOB BECK PROTOCOL Or Suffers from chronic fatigue or can help me in anyway. ... ... ... JAB ... ... Countless have had good results. Including me. Maybe it isn’t a 100% cure but it will help rid the body of infections and get the numbers down. ... ... ... Since: ... May 2012 ALT - 60 ... Oct 2012 ALT - 72 ... Jan 2012 ... [retrieve this message]

Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by mattleecarter 75 days 484

JAB: ... ... Thanks for replying but when your ALT / AST is up above 40, that isnt normal. Far from normal. ... ... I have also been tested for the HEP’s and they are so far came back negativity. ... ... I only started the BOB BECK PROTOCOL last week and thous tests were taking before I started. Its going to good to see if my ALTS go down. ( I find out tomorrow ) ... ... Thanks. ... ... How long till you noticed a difference in energy levels etc? ... ... From what I have read, people have been treated n seen great results in 3-4 weeks. Thoughts? [End]

Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by mattleecarter 75 days 474

SORRY I HAVE ALSO STATED THIS WRONG IN MY ORIGINAL POST: ... ... My BLOOD RESULTS: ... ... ... May 2012 ALT - 60 ... ... Oct 2012 ALT - 72 ... ... *** 2013 Jan ALT - 264 AST - 79 GGT -49 ... ... *** 2013 Feb ( early ) ALT- 328 AST- 94 ... ... *** 2013 March blood test - recieveing soon. ... [End]

Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by Johny Apple Bomb 75 days 763

So you have been steadily getting worse. If it’s an infection the Beck Protocol should help. ... ... The colloidal silver is known to get in the liver and kill hepatitis C. ... ... According to the first post in the link below. ... ... http://silverpuppy.com/testimonials.html ... ... One thing that’s good for the liver is to get a juicer and juice 1/2 a beat with a couple apples. [End]

Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by Johny Apple Bomb 75 days 627

How long till you noticed a difference in energy levels etc? ... ... From what I have read, people have been treated n seen great results in 3-4 weeks. Thoughts? ... ... ... JAB ... ... I don’t think it effects your energy levels much. Coconut oil and white cane sugar will raise energy levels. ... ... ... You might get flu like symptoms and have to back off the Beck Protocol especially if you don’t use ozonated water to detox. It basically sterilizes your blood and lowers the pathogen levels throughout the body. ... ... After you build up to 2 hours per day it should only take a month. ... ... Sometimes the tests are faul ... [retrieve this message]

Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by JrDavis 72 days 449

Yeah really weird he has gotten worse right? ... ... I used my Sota machine for about 2 weeks. ... ... My ALT and AST levels went down from 93 and 91 to 64 and 61. ... ... That’s a really good drop. ... ... I almost thought OP was getting the same results I had. ... ... I wonder why his levels are elevated anyway? ... ... Deodorant? Environmental toxins? What’s the deal? ... ... OP I request you get a Viral load count. ... ... Also drink lots of water. If you can’t get Ozonated get poland springs for the time being. ... ... I’ll follow. ... ... 2009 ALT 91 AST 94 ... 2013 ALT 64 AST 61 ... ... Use beck protocol from ... ... Dec 2012 - Jan 2013 ... ... I st ... [retrieve this message]

Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by kscmac 72 days 442

Anything that could get through the cell walls in greater amounts [End]
Re: treating chronic fatigue syndrome with bob beck protocol by MrCuddly 72 days 521

OT but why Poland Springs? It’s what I drink because I like the taste, but does it have special properties? [End]

Get ready for a bombshell announcement on this week's TBYIL radio show!

by Dquixote1217 3 mon 529 News / Colloidal / Law

... ... Our guest on The Best Years in Life Radio Show for February 20th will be Ben Taylor, the owner of the Utopia Silver Supplement Company and someone who has stood on the front lines in the fight for health freedom as well as liberty and freedom in general. We will likely talk about the wonders of colloidal silver and the importance of our health and other freedoms - AND we will be making a bombshell announcement regarding Ben’s fight for health freedom. To get an idea of what we are talking about, see: ... ... "Utopia Silver’s Fight for Health Freedom" ... ... http:// ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Get ready for a bombshell announcement on this week's TBYIL radio sh... by MrCuddly 3 mon 432

Wow - they should REALLY make a movie of this. We’ve got to fight with everything we’ve got just for the right to our own health. In any case here’s hoping it’s a GOOD bombshell! [End]

Re: Get ready for a bombshell announcement on this week's TBYIL radio sh... by Dquixote1217 3 mon 485

Trust me, it is a good bombshell indeed. Maybe not as well publicized as the Burzzynski case, but with far reaching implications. After years of persecution, prosecution, underhanded dealings and proposed fines of over $100,000 per day for non-compliance it is pretty much all over but the shouting. ... ... I’ll have a Natural News story up in the next few days about it - and I expect it to get picked up widely by alternative media. ... [End]

Re: Get ready for a bombshell announcement on this week's TBYIL radio sh... by MrCuddly 3 mon 387

Excellent - I hope he collects a serious lawsuit against the state. That’s the only way it will have a truly chilling effect on states giving the goons a free pass in the future. Otherwise big pharma money will continue to make it worth the risk counting on few others to be as tough or saavy as Mr. Taylor. [End]

Re: Get ready for a bombshell announcement on this week's TBYIL radio sh... by kscmac 3 mon 443

Too bad he does not have the time to give a class on how to use the system to stop it! [End]

Can I use Silver 50 mcg in my bulldogs eyes?

by grammyof2 3 mon 307 Colloidal Silver / Pets/Anima / Eyes Probl

Hello, ... I just found this forum and have a technical question. I bought Superior Silver from Vitacost, it says 50 mcg per serving. I have a bulldog that has gook, nasty stuff in her eyes every morning and was wondering if I can use this silver in them. I couldn’t find what I had bought last time and don’t know about this brand and what the 50 mcg means. Thanks [End]

Re: Can I use Silver 50 mcg in my bulldogs eyes? by kscmac 3 mon 281

50 mcg = 50 µg = 0.050 mg. ”mcg” is an unapproved symbol [End]
Re: Can I use Silver 50 mcg in my bulldogs eyes? by Johny Apple Bomb 3 mon 271

Should be fine. Doesn’t contain any other ingredients but Deionized water. [End]

Re: Can I use Silver 50 mcg in my bulldogs eyes? by SilverFox 3 mon 286

Hello Grammyof2, ... ... 50 micrograms in 1 serving (5 ml) works out to a concentration of 10 PPM. ... ... You can do a search to see if that concentration damages eyes, but I don’t think it does. ... ... Tom [End]

Re: Can I use Silver 50 mcg in my bulldogs eyes? by Hadasah 3 mon 291

I don’t know the brand you bought but if it’s pure silver in distilled water it’s perfectly fine for your dog’s eyes. ... ... I have an old cat who gets chronic conjunctivitis in her eye (the other eye was removed years ago). ... ... I simply put a few drops directly in her eye and she is cured within a day or 2 at the most. ... ... Hadasah [End]

Works in people's eyes too.. by MrCuddly 3 mon 300

I gave some homemade CS to one of my employees who had these angry red splotches in both eyes for years. He was told he’d need surgery for them which he was saving up for. ... ... After whining about going blind if he put it in his eyes, he tried it and the splotches started to fade the same day. I think they’re 100% gone now. Next he worried that there was some evil power behind it since it also cured his flu when he drank the rest down later. ... ... See how things work? The mainstream medical system is considered miraculous and doesn’t cure anybody. That means if you ARE actually cured of so ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Works in people's eyes too.. by Hadasah 3 mon 306

... Oh ya, cs is wonderful for the eyes, both pet and human! ... ... A friend has a daughter with chronic conjunctivitis too. She uses it in her eyes and POOF. I forgot to mention before that I use it in my cat’s eye a couple times a day and also for a day more after the infection is gone. ... ... In the past I used what the vet gave me. It took over a week for that stuff to cure the eye. ... ... OH YES! There IS an evil power behind it but it isn’t the natural cures we use. The evil power is Big Pharma, who wants to scare us so that we use their big bad drugs. Let’s put the emphasis on BAD. [retrieve this message]

Re: Can I use Silver 50 mcg in my bulldogs eyes? by knowledge seeker 89 days 241

I gave colloidal silver to a cat with similar condition, It did not hurt him and helped. [End]

Re: Can I use Silver 50 mcg in my bulldogs eyes? by wateroflife 89 days 301

We had a rabbit with pussed eyes and everytime we sprayed them with home made silver water it cleared up a lot after a few hours. ... ... It also clears up cold sores if they are sprayed every 2hrs when awake once the first symptoms occur. They do not develop. ... ... Fabulous for burns and redness of the skin. [End]

Treating Candida Infection with Enzymes and Diet

by Dquixote1217 3 mon 460 Candida Support / Colloidal

... ... Treating Candida Infection with Enzymes and Diet ... ... by Melanie Grimes ... See more articles by Melanie Grimes ... ... ( The Best Years in Life ) Candida albicans is a form of yeast that lives in the colon. While Candida is not normal, it is common. Some studies say that Candida is present in 90% of the population. Some believe this number to be 100%. And for most people, Candida is not a problem. However, after treatment with antibiotics or as a by-product of digestion, Candida can multiply, disrupt normal digestive flora and cause severe mental and physical health problems. &n ... [retrieve this message]

A reader replies that colloidal silver worked for him by Dquixote1217 3 mon 439

The reason I cross posted this to the colloidal silver forum is that after I posted this article at Rumor Mill News last week, a reader wrote: ... ... at about age 72 and after having suffered from chronic fatigue and sore muscles for 20 years, i took colloidal silver and the candida problem was cured in about 2 hours. it came back because it took me awhile to change my diet, but the colloidal silver always stopped it again. now, my diet it a alot more sugarless and i don’t have any more problems with it. ... ... And, though it might not work for everyone, I will note that I have seen ... [retrieve this message]

Re: A reader replies that colloidal silver worked for him by saywhatagain 3 mon 348

I used colloidal silver in large amounts for extended periods of time, did nothing but give me die off same as any other anti-fungals. May work for people that have very moderate candida that has not spread from the colon and invaded the rest of the body. For these people that have candida contained mainly in the colon, most antifungals and probiotics will be effective. [End]

Ultrasonic Nebulizer?

by MrCuddly 3 mon 284

I’ve been using a John Bunn nebulizer for colloidal silver for a couple of years, but I don’t think it’s ultrasonic. Why is ultrasonic always recommended for CS? Would it be more effective than non-ultrasonic and why? Do the silver particles or ions not make it into the mist somehow with the non-ultra units? ... ... To be safe I just upped the PPM on my Silvergen, but would like to know if I’ll get better results by switching - and why. ... ... ... [End]

Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer? by kscmac 3 mon 250

The ultrasonic nebulizer makes a better vapor cloud!! [End]

Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer? by MrCuddly 3 mon 250

Better vapor cloud? In what way? I get more than enough vapor output with my compressor type nebulizer. Are you saying there’s more CS that makes it into the vapor with the ultrasonic or just more vapor? Thanks. [End]

Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer? by kscmac 3 mon 245

I have had both units air & ultrasonic, The ultrasonic puts out much more and due to to ultrasonic transducer puts more ”energy” into taking the CS/IS into a vapor. The sonic unit works like 5 times as much vapor. Both work, its that the sonic unit plugs into 12VDC. Which ever you have use it. But if getting your first one get the best price on either unit. [End]

Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer? by Johny Apple Bomb 3 mon 257

I have an ultra sonic. When I bought mine everyone was claiming the compressor types were better. I don’t think it matters. With my ultra sonic you have to have it upright or the fluid will spill out. ... ... You have to have a certain amount of silver in the cup. Too much and it won’t put out as much fog. Too little and it also won’t put out as much fog. You have to have the fluid level just right that the cup (membrane) sits in also. [End]

Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer? by MrCuddly 3 mon 823

So I guess it doesn’t matter. Ironically the plastic on my Bunn nebulizer broke right after posting the question so i need a new one anyway. Sounds like the ultrasonics can be fussy, but I’ll put up with it if i don’t have to have a vacuum cleaner level noise 3 feet from my head. Thanks! [End]

Re: Ultrasonic Nebulizer? by kscmac 3 mon 252

As long as you put water in the outer cup, I have not had any issues with the ultrasonic nebulizers. In fact I am going to order 3 more for my kids to keep at their homes [End]

Used Silvergen SG6 Auto

by sounddoctrine 3 mon 323

Hey guys, just letting you know that I put up my SG6 Auto for sale on Ebay which works flawlessly. ... ... I started the bid for 100$ I bought the machine for 250 on the Silvergen site. ... ... I was given another generator for my birthday which is why i’m selling it. ... ... If anyone is interested, head over to Ebay and do a quick search, should be the only unit on there. ... ... If you’d like to make me a good offer and no one has placed a bid yet, I can cancel the auction. ... ... Thanks!! [End]

Re: Used Silvergen SG6 Auto by MrCuddly 3 mon 257

What did you get for your birthday, and what does it do better than the Silvergen? [End]

C.S. - I.V. information?

by Karlin 3 mon 301

I see there has not been a discussion of intravenous colloidal silver for awhile here. ... ... Also, there is no information anywhere online about it. ... ... It seems like it should be easy enough to do at home, by ourselves rather than pay some doctor $150 a shot to do it. And, it is not easy to find a doctor who would do it. ... ... Gees, if homeless drug addicts can inject without problems it seems that we could do it. The supplies we need would be available at a ”Harm Reduction” clinic for IV drug users, and they would have information on how to do it safely too. ... ... I think they might recomm ... [retrieve this message]

Perhaps something in this thread.................. by Corey 3 mon 301

... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1473736 ... ... [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by Hadasah 3 mon 304

... I don’t know anything about how to use CS with an IV but I can tell you how to help it get into your bloodstream better. Pour a gulp into your mouth (not straight from the bottle but from a small cup) and hold it under your tongue as long as you can. I do it for 4 to 5 minutes before swallowing it if I can. You don’t have to hold it that long I don’t suppose but the longer the better. ... I do it every three hours when I first start to come down with something. ... ... If you have lung problems you can nebulize with it! ... ... Hadasah [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by Karlin 3 mon 297

Thx Hadash and Corey for the replies - that is true that it gets into the blood stream sublingually... and about nebulisers - does it work to just use a fine spray mist from a spray bottle and inhale that misty cloud of CS ddeply?? ... I suppose there are nebulizers to purchase, but $ is short. [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by kscmac 3 mon 287

The spray works but you can pickup an ultrasonic nebulizer for about $11.00 on fleabay. [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by Hadasah 3 mon 283

... Yes, a FINE MIST sprayer would work but would be a royal pain to get enough in you. ... May I suggest going to thrift stores and looking for a used nebulizer? I paid $10 for my newest one ($150 new) and it looked as if it had never been used. The one I used before is over 20 years old and still works great but the new one puts out the mist much faster. ... ... As suggested, ebay would be a good place to look too. But if it’s new and costs $10 or so remember that you get what you pay for. I know two people who bought really cheap new ones on ebay. One machine died within a month... the other work ... [retrieve this message]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by kscmac 3 mon 320

My two nebulizers I bought (ultrasonic ones) have been working for over two years! They have two output settings, medium and high and high works very well. I have got my one year old grandson to ”play” with the vapor coming out so now when he starts to get flu/cold he will use the nebulizer. I am going to be ording three more for my grown kids and grandkids. [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by Karlin 3 mon 281

Ok, good ideas, I will keep my eye open. Its amazing how people buy health gadgets and never use them eh? ... ... Intention is one thing, but it has to be turned into action too. ... ... Meanwhile, I have started... I hardly dare mention it, it feels like I am a criminal to do the IV. I wonder if I would get into trouble with CZ mods if I posted a ”how to” for IV colloidal silver? ... ... [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by kscmac 3 mon 290

Don’t post a how-to! Post a hypothetical situation! This is how it could be/might be/was done/an experimental therapy! This way you are not giving instructions but are giving what was done and how the experiment worked out or how the hypothetical method would work. Remember no how to! just what was! [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by kscmac 3 mon 290

I have found the ultrasonic nebulizers work very well and put (on high) out a large amount of vapor, we played with my 1 year old grandson and now he will use it if we ever need to for cold/flu/infection. The average cost of a good one is about $25.00, and cleaning/replacing the air filter is super important! [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by Karlin 3 mon 259

Thanks for good advice - hypothetical hyopdermic, experimental intravenous instructions - and that nebulizers are a good way to go when swallowing isn’t enough. [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by kscmac 3 mon 259

My wife is a allergic asthmatic, so any kind of cold/flu/allergy can result in a massive upper resp/sinus infection! Last time several years ago so resp arrested three times! She was in intensive care in a drug induced COMA, they kept her this way for 20 days. There were 2 lung scrappings, and yes this procedure is very dangerious. So after getting her back I had had enough! so remembered about CS/IS. Made my own generator and she has not had any kind of cold/flu/infection in over 3 years! She also has RA(Rheumatoid arthritis) and Hashimoto’s disease(thyroid problems). So both of us starte ... [retrieve this message]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by georgie430 3 mon 268

kscmac I’m really very new to all this. When you wrote coolidal gold is that the collidal silver but ”gold” is the brand?? Do I buy in a healthfood store?? ... ... I do have a neb for my 9 yr old, can kids use it? She gets many asthmatic episodes... ... ... ... Thanks for your help [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by kscmac 3 mon 252

Colloidal Gold is made with gold, Colloidal Silver(CS) and Ionic Silver(IS) are made with silver. I make my own IS/CS and CG. The generator for making CS/IS Silver can be built for under $20.00, if you have a multimeter you can get the current and voltage across the electrodes. I had my 13 month old grandson get use to using it. I don’t know if your 9yr old is just an allergy or somethin g else. My wife when using CS with a starting cold/flu would stop any further infection or getting worse. Since my wife had been a smoker she would bring up all kinds of junk when she first starting siulve ... [retrieve this message]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by georgie430 3 mon 256

Thanks ... ... Please forgive the ignorance, are you saying you make ... this yourself? I do have a multimeter, perhaps i should ... see if there are any videos on DiY on youtube? ... ... What other costs are involved? ... ... My daughter was dx’d with bronchial asthma. ... ... Can it benefit someone like me who was also a smoker about 23 yrs. I quit about 8 yrs ago, I had some very severe ... SOB that came on suddenly, ironically the SOB was worse after quitting but today I have none. Although last yr I did get bronchitis which lasted about 9 weeks. When I smoked and got bronchitis it was about 2-3 weeks. But ... [retrieve this message]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by kscmac 3 mon 274

Know what kind of asthma your 9yr old has, under developed lungs? damaged? or just an allergy? This info will help you figure if the silver can help. Everybody that I have helped with a cold/flu/infection has resolved the issues in about 3 days max. Even infected teeth took 2 days, which my wife had last week. So research and be careful! For more info read the book ”The Body Electric” by Robert Becker, M.D. [End]

Re: C.S. - I.V. information? by MrCuddly 3 mon 245

Actually I used a spray bottle for my lungs before I got a nebulizer and it did work. I would spray CS in my mouth while deeply inhaling and it would go in the lungs but always lots of coughing. Still it did the job of getting directly into the lungs even if it was kind of awkward and uncomfortable. ... ... With the nebulizer I can mix in other good stuff like lobelia, holy basil etc to the CS. I happen to have the east coast sludge going around at the moment and am hitting the nebulizer 3 times a day to great relief. My only worry is that it’s not a ultrasonic nebulizer, so I’m not sure ... [retrieve this message]

SilverGen Very Bitter CS

by riesingwaters 3 mon 299

Hi, I just got a new silvergen and made my first batch of CS with distilled water I bought from walmart. It came out very bitter. I have taken a couple different store bought brands and they were all much milder. Also, both of the electrodes are covered in a whitish layer. ... ... Whats the deal? ... ... Thanks! ... [End]

Re: SilverGen Very Bitter CS by kscmac 3 mon 273

Silver wire has some kinda of lub on it for going through the die. I always clean the wire with a green scrub and DW water. Check if there is an oily film on the silver wires, most it now may be in the water! Do you have a EC/PPM checker? Use the EC range/scale and check the DW mine usually is anywhere from 0.0uS to 2.1uS, I try to use the DW that is 1.0uS and under [End]

Re: SilverGen Very Bitter CS by Johny Apple Bomb 3 mon 288

Maybe the Wallmart water isn’t pure enough. Hard to tell without a conductivity meter. [End]
- Re: SilverGen Very Bitter CS by kscmac 3 mon 270
  
  I find the walmart DW water is normally 1.2uS and under which is just fine for use. [End]
  - Re: SilverGen Very Bitter CS by Karlin 3 mon 240
    
    But don’t forget that WalMart is pure EVIL and that might make a difference :) ... HA! [End]

Re: SilverGen Very Bitter CS by MrCuddly 3 mon 221

The bitter taste would be in the water. There’s nothing bitter that silver would add to the taste - especially at 20 parts per million. ... ... Congrats on the Silvergen - i love mine! Like other Silvergen users here I’ve found that 10 PPM seems to both have the strongest effect and upsets the stomach the least (if you’re drinking a lot). [End]

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