Hello again, Shroom.
I believe you're addressing me with this post, although my post was placed in its respective position and it's where I expected a reply. Well, I'll reply here then:
By the way, if the post below is too long, I invite you to try it out in short parts, and to break down sentences like food for digestion where necessary. It helps.
First of all I'd like to remind you and everyone else that this method I use of answering a poster sentence by sentence ensures that threads are followed properly, that no argument is left unexamined and no question is left unanswered. I believe it's polite, it's accurate, and it leaves little room for doubt. I also believe that such precision is the least that should be demanded from anyone attempting to pursue the sciences. If you're not able to follow the posts with attention and to reply properly, Shroom, it's only logical and understandable.
Therefore, here is my reply:
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You know what Doc?
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Shroom, if you're referring to me by that handle, I must point out that I haven't extended you that courtesy. It's one reserved mostly for rhrplus' clients. In that case, please keep your distance and address me properly as I have done with you all the time.
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You could go easy on the words, or word and other word, "I think".
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I'm not so sure I understand what you're saying. Anyway, whatever the above means I suppose I could do it, but I happen to respect grammar and coherence, so I will NOT do it, Thank you.
So now you'll show me how to use grammar improperly, huh? I don't think so.
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Do you want to know what I think?
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No. Outside Facts, outside any opinion constructive for the forum and outside politeness towards others, not really. Of course you're free to say it anyway, just as I was free to answer to your question above honestly.
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I think, you think--too much.
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Do you think that much, of me? I'm really excited by this smart answer.
After all the posts where the matter of Truth is being discussed -or so I've thought-, this happens to sum your thoughts, how about that? I believe the rest is evident.
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To disect every sentence, cut and paste and drag every point out in looong winded sentences, kills the interest of the reader.
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How could you be sure it kills everyone's interest? You can not be, of course.
You might have added instead that it kills the interest of "some" readers, particularly "some" not able to follow ideas in sequential or random order. Ring a bell, anyone?
And by the way, how come you're mentioning this to me only now after all this time? Why not the courtesy of having done so before? Surely you never had a problem with it during my long email replies to you -which I have in store right from the beginning, by the way-, in which you had to humble yourself in private and ask very Basic stuff on Microscopy and whatnot. I wonder if your "fans" know this. Where's this "humility" gone to? Did you get what you needed from me and so it's not necessary to hide yourself anymore just like it happens during overwhelming infestations?
It seems like you've been hiding thoughts about me for a while, Shroom. Not nice, not nice at all. You should be ashamed of yourself. At least for me, this is clear evidence that you can not be trusted. I wonder what this has to say about your "research".
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Even science needs to be presented in "fun ways" sometimes.
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There's a difference between "fun" and "funny". By the way, you have no qualifications or merit to say how science should or should not be presented, so I see you in no position to give me any "science lessons".
I could point out several references on "the Proper Introduction of Science for individuals with different backgrounds and interests", but I won't. Not worth my time anymore. You're not worth my deference, Shroom.
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This response has done nothing for your readers,
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You have no way of knowing this, unless you know for sure who "my" readers are. Even if you did, everyone should know that I have no intentions of keeping a fan-base of "my" readers. I couldn't care less about it. What I care about in this forum is how to spot the microbe and how to kill it. I may be seeing one right now.
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who, by-the-way, would certainly not have the patients to mull through all your literal literature if you did this to everyone.
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Patience with a 'C' and an 'E', Shroom, thanks. After all, CZ is about education, isn't it?
Many readers will not have the time to go through any of my posts if they don't need to look for a certain answer hard enough, or simply if they just can't. If you're unable to read through a simple set of answers in a post, once again this is yet more evidence that you can't handle great amounts of data. If you can't, don't try to generalize it for everyone thus hiding in the crowd. After all, it's not everyone over here that's trying to pretend something they're not.
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And, this brings up an important point as well: everything you have said could easily be applied to 90 percent of people who post on these forums.
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I hope it applies to everyone starting by myself. If it's my honor to have words I've said applied to everyone, the better a person I am for it. For that reason, I hope that what I say applies easily to the entire planet, especially where it pertains to Health, to Microbes and on how to kill them where necessary. How does this affect you?
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I guess I must have privilige to be singled out.
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Don't feel that privileged, Shroom. You're not important. Truth is. You keep seeing this as something personal against you. Are you alright with the way you process information, or does this need to be said in some other way? This is NOT personal. Never been, never will be. This only "lends credence", as someone put it, to the poster's question: "Shroom, What do you get off on!!", asked here:
http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1014142
Of course this happened, as we all know, when you intruded into the forum with an unwarranted and possibly absurd "diagnosis" that easily could have landed you in jail in no time, in my opinion, had the client chosen to follow such ill advice. I had to laugh, I must confess.
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Oh, and I say all of this without emotion or intentions of eliciting emotion from you, I think.
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Well, now you're thinking. I think we're making progress.
Shroom, with your weak grammar there is no way you could provoke emotions in someone who LIVES for examining things objectively, I think. I can feel sad, though, for someone not worthy of my mention anymore. After all, I'm not one of the parasites I must study.
I think, of course..
Therefore I am. Ever heard of that before? Look it up. The internet is here to type from, as our poster "friend" put it.
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Apxr, I do like you and respect you.
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I don't particularly care how you feel about me, Shroom. Is this not evident? Do you think I need to be seen as a "good person"? Do you think I care how readers view me on a personal level? Once again, this is not personal. Is anyone out there counting how many times I've said this same thing to this guy and he's not getting it? People here need professional support rather than "goodness" as a personal quality. How you still don't understand this is beginning to elude me. Do you write under medications, I'm forced to ask?
However, alright. Let's consider the above personally, if you wish:
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Apxr, I do like you and respect you.
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Shroom, you don't like me and you do NOT respect me. Why not say "Apxer" now, for example? I like things CLEAR, and I love it when masks finally fall off. Pretty much the way I feel when I get to reveal some hidden organism for all to see. I'm glad you can now begin to speak from your heart, so that it is finally exposed. I hope and trust that you'll continue to do so. I'll be ready to reply each and every time without emotion, without a personal reference or insult and from the heart, as I've always done to the best of my recollection. Replies and posts and Science from the Heart I always have done before, which is why I have nothing to add or to change. You, on the other hand, are now Revealed. The MD Forum is the Micrograph that's been taken of you and the Microbe Detectives are the ones exposing the words until now hidden in your heart. I challenge anyone anywhere to say that this is not so, especially those "anonymous" souls in other forums that seem to stand by you with words that need facts.
It seems that you and others have confused courtesy with blindness. I've seen you coming right from the beginning. I can see people like you coming miles away, and I see them everyday. What surprises me is stuff like this coming from an artist. Well, not that surprising, if "Art does come from the Heart" as they say. Don't forget that I've seen your art, IF it is your art. I know very well what it reveals about you and about what you hold inside, because Art is good for this purpose. Beauty [and ugliness] are not just in the eyes of the beholder, you know. That's a "comfortable fallacy" as I call it. Do not assume what you know not.
You assume that I'm weak and that I can be insulted "subtly" because I'm polite. You also assume that you can come here into a personal forum and post whatever you like and diagnose whichever condition you wish without being examined and questioned. Not gonna happen. You are wrong, and you better back off. This is the language such people understand, the language of dogs. Well, so it is then. Back off or deal with the Level.
Oh, and stop assuming that we're peers on the scientific level, because you're not my peer and we are NOT equals in science. You're my inferior in that regard, and you better acknowledge it. If not, remember any of those emails mentioned above which I'll be happy to provide as "concrete" evidence. Like that word? I trust all this is well "above the belt", how about it?
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But 'please' take it from a business person, this banter which has been going on does nothing good for promoting what you do---which I endorse as a legitimate and noble service. Shroom
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Which business person would that be, Shroom? Surely not yourself. If you handle business with the same precision you handle your "research", you must be starving, I think. For that reason, if you're the "business person" in question, no thanks, I will NOT "take it" from you.
'Banter' is not what's been happening here, at least not from my end. All I've said I've said very seriously and believing what I say and standing by it 100%. Could your intentions now revealed speak differently about yourself? Could any of your obvious 'defenders' stand firm and confront this evidence openly, a double-faced bunch at least one of them if you ask me?
If I've displayed courtesy it's been out of respect and politeness, not out of weakness or stupidity. Funny how mediocre minds usually tend to think that way. If you hold rudeness and you display it towards me you will get it right back, because I don't take "it" from anybody. Never have, never will.
In my immediate and firm response to your intrusion on a person's right to facts and to precision [that person being a client of rhrplus], for several days I've been trying to convey with politeness the reasons for my concerns regarding how opinions continue to be presented as facts from ordinary people such as yourself, whom elusively suggest "authority".
In return to that response of mine, what I've seen instead is a twist of reason, insults, disrespect and shameless attempts from fans to call these posts of mine and other posts "vicious attacks" against you on a personal level. I've also witnessed how rhrplus as a service is being threatened right in front of many silently "idle" readers, and at least how one MD forum reader/client and also the forum's rightful owner are challenged rudely and with no consideration.
To top it all, while all this happens you're being applauded and "accoladed" with some symbolic remark as some "cool dude" [NOT], for coming here to insult our intelligence with nonsense in the first place. Now we're just supposed to sit back and relax, is that it?
The MD Forum is against twisting the Truth, or it should be. For twisted half-truths we have enough on our hands with politicians, with lawyers and with "Parasites" themselves, which happen to "twist" things around so that they appear differently from the way they really are. Why, they'll even twist themselves into a knot. That's how they consume us and survive and it's why we're looking to expose them, all of them.
If you're coming here to disguise insults with 'pseudofacts' plus "expertise", as you're trying to do so now, I suggest that any and all moderators take notice and examine EACH SENTENCE you try to pass as facts, all of them, from this moment forward and through all your posts already published. If we're all here about "educating instead of medicating", I need to know beyond a doubt what kind of education we're about, because I don't wish to be seen among purveyors of lies. In that case, I have better places to visit and better things to do.
With this MD Forum attempt, as far as I'm concerned I'm looking to yield the best education possible, full of facts and nothing beyond it. If I'm not to question each and every argument that you or anyone choose to affirm particularly here on this MD forum -which is supposed to be a personal one-, just in order to avoid "offending you", then what on earth is the reason for this forum in the first place, and what am I as a Real Researcher doing in it? What's next then, a nice kick in the butt right here on this forum for us to kindly step aside and out from it including the owner? You guys must be out of your mind.
Maybe you'll be allowed to carry on unquestioned in other forums, but here that is NOT going to happen, at least not while I'm around, so you better back off. I, for one, have no time to waste on things like these, but I must and will question everything when they demand to be questioned here AND anywhere. I MUST do this for the sake of Truth, because Truth is what we all need the most. Everyone better listen to this that I just said. If you're human, reader, it has everything to do with to you, so pay close attention and read it again. At least on this planet, "Truth is what we all need the most".
I urge you and "your friends" to remember this, Shroom, that Truth is what we all need the most, especially when your "theories" fail and you find yourselves cycling on illness. When that happens, because it will, it's a FACT, maybe you'll be coming back here to us for some answers, as it's happened before already -IF we're still here, that is-. Then, I THINK, we'll have a little chat about Truth first, I think, and you will have to apologize.
I'll be here.
[Remember, it's] Apxr.
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