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      Jhn 8:1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
      Jhn 8:2 Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and {began} to teach them.
      Jhn 8:3 The scribes and the Pharisees *brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center {of the court,}
      Jhn 8:4 they *said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act.
      Jhn 8:5 "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?"
      Jhn 8:6 They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground.
      Jhn 8:7 But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him {be the} first to throw a stone at her."
      Jhn 8:8 Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground.
      Jhn 8:9 When they heard it, they {began} to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center {of the court.}
      Jhn 8:10 Straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?"
      Jhn 8:11 She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."]
      Jhn 8:12 Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life."
      Jhn 8:13 So the Pharisees said to Him, "You are testifying about Yourself; Your testimony is not true."
      Jhn 8:14 Jesus answered and said to them, "Even if I testify about Myself, My testimony is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from or where I am going.
      Jhn 8:15 "You judge according to the flesh; I am not judging anyone.
      Jhn 8:16 "But even if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone {in it,} but I and the Father who sent Me.
      Jhn 8:17 "Even in your law it has been written that the testimony of two men is true.
      Jhn 8:18 "I am He who testifies about Myself, and the Father who sent Me testifies about Me."
      Jhn 8:19 So they were saying to Him, "Where is Your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither Me nor My Father; if you knew Me, you would know My Father also."
      Jhn 8:20 These words He spoke in the treasury, as He taught in the temple; and no one seized Him, because His hour had not yet come.
      Jhn 8:21 Then He said again to them, "I go away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin; where I am going, you cannot come."
      Jhn 8:22 So the Jews were saying, "Surely He will not kill Himself, will He, since He says, 'Where I am going, you cannot come'?"
      Jhn 8:23 And He was saying to them, "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world.
      Jhn 8:24 "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am {He,} you will die in your sins."
      Jhn 8:25 So they were saying to Him, "Who are You?" Jesus said to them, "What have I been saying to you {from} the beginning?
      Jhn 8:26 "I have many things to speak and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and the things which I heard from Him, these I speak to the world."
      Jhn 8:27 They did not realize that He had been speaking to them about the Father.
      Jhn 8:28 So Jesus said, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am {He,} and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me.
      Jhn 8:29 "And He who sent Me is with Me; He has not left Me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to Him."
      Jhn 8:30 As He spoke these things, many came to believe in Him.
      Jhn 8:31 So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, {then} you are truly disciples of Mine;
      Jhn 8:32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
      Jhn 8:33 They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never yet been enslaved to anyone; how is it that You say, 'You will become free'?"
      Jhn 8:34 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.
      Jhn 8:35 "The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever.
      Jhn 8:36 "So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed.
      Jhn 8:37 "I know that you are Abraham's descendants; yet you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you.
      Jhn 8:38 "I speak the things which I have seen with {My} Father; therefore you also do the things which you heard from {your} father."
      Jhn 8:39 They answered and said to Him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus *said to them, "If you are Abraham's children, do the deeds of Abraham.
      Jhn 8:40 "But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do.
      Jhn 8:41 "You are doing the deeds of your father." They said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father: God."
      Jhn 8:42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me.
      Jhn 8:43 "Why do you not understand what I am saying? {It is} because you cannot hear My word.
      Jhn 8:44 "You are of {your} father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own {nature,} for he is a liar and the father of lies.
      Jhn 8:45 "But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me.
      Jhn 8:46 "Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me?
      Jhn 8:47 "He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear {them,} because you are not of God."
      Jhn 8:48 The Jews answered and said to Him, "Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?"
      Jhn 8:49 Jesus answered, "I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me.
      Jhn 8:50 "But I do not seek My glory; there is One who seeks and judges.
      Jhn 8:51 "Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he will never see death."
      Jhn 8:52 The Jews said to Him, "Now we know that You have a demon. Abraham died, and the prophets {also;} and You say, 'If anyone keeps My word, he will never taste of death.'
      Jhn 8:53 "Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? The prophets died too; whom do You make Yourself out {to be?}"
      Jhn 8:54 Jesus answered, "If I glorify Myself, My glory is nothing; it is My Father who glorifies Me, of whom you say, 'He is our God';
      Jhn 8:55 and you have not come to know Him, but I know Him; and if I say that I do not know Him, I will be a liar like you, but I do know Him and keep His word.
      Jhn 8:56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw {it} and was glad."
      Jhn 8:57 So the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?"
      Jhn 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
      Jhn 8:59 Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple.

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