Re: I Think I'm Losing My Mind, and I Don't Know What To Do!

Hi bfly,

It's too bad that in addition to having been sick with various health issues throughout your life, you now have to also deal with body odor.  I would imagine that with all your previous and ongoing health issues, you have been examined by various doctors/dentists.  Have you seen a rheumatologist to check out your immune system?  Not that a autoimmune disease produces body odor, but maybe he/she can help you not get sick so often.  

I assume that your dentist has told you that your mouth is fine, or he would have done all possible to correct it.  So, if that is the case, then the odor would be coming from your insides, not your mouth. 

When you read some of the recent (and not so recent) postings in this forum, you'll see that the most underlying trend is that most everyone ends up addressing the digestive system as the culprit of body odor, and the stage of treatment for a solution to body odor would be your gut.  From what I've gathered here, when the food is not broken down (digested) properly with the necessary liver enzymes, and when bacteria goes out of whack in the gut, then odor kicks in.  (Other people in this website have had their doctors tell them that they have had an infection in their pancreas, and I don't remember if it was bacterial or Candidas.  I'm not well-versed in this.  I think it was username hadenuff, so you might want to read his postings) 

What happens in the odor-producing process is that sometimes improperly digested food residue seeps into the bloodstream along with properly digested nutrients (see the Leaky Gut Forum), and then the odor is spread through your blood to all your body fluids, including the mucous membranes of your respiratory system, sweat glands, urine, sexual secretions, etc.  That is why when you get stressed, the body normally perspires, and your sweat emits the strong odor.  Your breath is mixed in with the odor coming from your digestive tract, and it comes out of your mouth and your nose.  So, just breathing through your nose spreads it around you.

So then, where to begin?  Well, I think that you need to start where the problem starts - in your digestive system.  There is a whole forum dedicated to that, which is rich in information.

Bowel Cleanse Support: Intestinal Cleanse Support Forum.  I bet they have alot of info on how to best cleanse your intestines safely that will work for you.

 First and foremost avoid expensive remedies whenever possible.  There really is no need for them.  Read the ingredients of most expensive products, and you’ll see that you can get the same ingredients at your local health food store, pharmacy, or online with other less advertised manufacturers.  At least start working with the inexpensive remedies, and only if you really feel you need it, go to the more specialized ones.

A very effective way that I’ve tried in the past is doing a one full day of fruit juices and water, and you can rub Castor Oil on your lower abdomen overnight.  Do this when you don’t have to go to work or school the following morning, since it will be cleaning you out very well, and you'll need to stay home for that.

I would think that there are 2 very important phases to this.  The first is to clean out as much as possible in a healthy natural manner (avoiding using drugs), and I would do so until you feel well-cleansed and if you can, get feedback from someone about what your odor level is.  Usually, once the intestines are thoroughly cleansed, the odor goes away with it within a few days after your blood cleans out as well, so drink alot of water.

I know I said to avoid using drugs during the cleansing process, and I am a firm believer that natural is best, but the U.S. National Institute of Health, under rare diseases page,  http://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/GARD/QnA.aspx?PageID=4&CaseID=21258&DiseaseID=6447#78  says to take low doses of antibiotics to reduce the amount of bacteria in the gut to suppress the production of trimethylamine (that's if you have TMAU).  My son and Marx (see his recent posting) used antibiotics during their cleansing phase, and it helped remove odor alot.

The second phase is the tricky part.  How to rebuild the gut without bringing back the odor???  That is the question!  That depends on what the CAUSE of your odor is.  I suggest that you read my posting entitled  See scientist42 postings re other metabolic cond similar to TMAU.  If you go to the Search box on the upper right corner of the CureZone posting pages, write his username, scientist42, and it'll give you some of his postings.  Open any of them, and click on his user name which gives you his CureZone Profile.  Click Date on R messages only, and it will give you his 3 most important and informative postings.  You can also click on Date on All Messages to read all his postings. 

Basically, scientist42 says that not all liver-enzyme abnormalities produce Trimethylaminuria (TMAU – a liver enzyme disease) requiring a low-choline diet, but you could also have other liver enzymes affected which may not process amino acids [PROTEINS] well. 

 

Here’s the catch, if you indeed have TMAU, then you need to start with A low choline diet:  See the list posted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/Choline/Choline.pdf., which indicate the choline contents of many foods.  Also see http://rarediseases.info.nih.gov that explains everything about Trimethylaminuria (TMAU).

 

If your condition is more a mutation of other liver enzymes resulting in poor processing of amino acids, then you need to avoid meats, as he explains on his postings.  You can ask your doctor to do a blood and urine amino acid profile to see if they are elevated or reduced (as scientist42 recommends).  As he says, there are many liver enzymes, and any one or more of them could be the culprit of your odor.  

 

So…what to do?  Well, after a day of cleansing, you might want to look at the list of low-choline diet and begin eating foods that are not meat products.  Some people in this website have problems with dairy products, so you might consider that as well.  The slower you introduce each new food – one at a time, the better control you’ll have of determining which produces odor or not.  If you see that meat products produce your odor, then, stay away from them.  If you see that higher choline foods produce your odor, stay away from them.  This should help you a lot.

 

Also with the cleansing process, using soaps with a moderate pH, between 5.5 and 6.5 helps restore a healthy skin. Trimethylamine is a strong base (pH 9.8), thus soaps with pH closer to that of normal skin help retain the secreted trimethylamine in a less volatile form that can be removed by washing.  Even if you don’t have TMAU, odor-producing factors in your sweat could alter your pH, so you can help get your skin at a normal pH for it to be healthy and look good again.

 

Bfly, don’t get discouraged.  People in this forum have managed to control their odor enough to successfully become socially active again, so hang in there.  Let us know how you do. 

 

mpdela

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