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  • 99% or greater decline in deaths /63 1 by Atari_64   5 year  1,927   11 of 19 (57%)  Vaccination Debate
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      If you look at the full study you will find that it almost completely fails to account for the sharply declining rates in most of the diseases due to improved sanitation and nutrition.  In some instances, a disease had already fallen by 95% prior to the introduction of vaccinations.  Instead of noting this, the study merely averaged the number of reported cases and deaths for a handful of years prior to the introduction of vaccinations and then reported the comparison figures of the period of 2004-2006 instead of showing the continuation of the steady decline already in progress for the intervening years between the introduction of vaccinations and the reporting period.  As previously demonstrated here many times, vaccinations have taken far too much credit for declines that were already happening and well documented.

      One notes that the study itself was designed and funded by the Center for Disease Control, a notorious pro-vaccination organization with a vested interest in contintuing and increasing vaccinations - and one that has been caught doctoring and hiding vaccination information that reflected badly on the vaccinations of the medical industry they serve.

      The question today is what is the cost versus the benefits, if any, of vaccinations.  We know that vaccinations suppress the immune system and prevent the safer and more effective natural immunity to diseases.  What we do not yet fully know is what the effect is of injecting substances such as mercury, aluminum, formaldhyde, msg, aspartame, viruses, monkey brain cells, and a host of other toxins - including excitotoxins and neurotoxins - into the children whose entire bodies, but especially whose brains and central nervous systems are still developing and most vulnerable.

      No one has ever tested what the effects can be from all those toxins from all the vaccines, but anyone whose eyes are not blinded to reason has to know that it cannot be good.  Perhaps indications can be found in the greater incidence of diseases that now slip past our immune systems.  Other indications might be found in the declining academic scores or American children compared to countries who are far less vaccinated.  Or the number of autism and autism like disorders reported.  And let us not overlook the increase number of behavior disorders that is skyrocketing to the point where soon more than half of all children will be prescribed behavior modification drugs.

      While we unprofessionals are debating this, perhaps we should take a look at what those in the medical profession who have have stepped out from the constraints, vested interests and propaganda of the mainstream establishment to tell us what they believe is the truth about vaccinations.  Here is but a sampling of what such professional have said:

      "The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines are safe and effective" - Dr. Len Horowitz

      Vaccination is a medical procedure that causes permanent and irreversible modification of the immune system - Dr. G. Buchwald

      "After a careful consideration of the history of vaccination gleaned from an impartial and comprehensive study of vital statistics, and pertinent data from every reliable source, and after an experience derived from having vaccinated 31,000 subjects, I am firmly convinced that vaccination cannot be shown to have any logical relation to the diminution of cases of smallpox. Vaccination does not protect, it actually renders its subjects more susceptible by depressing the vital power and diminishing the natural resistance, and millions of people have died of smallpox which they contracted after being vaccinated" - J.W. Hodge MD

      "They say openly in the [medical] legal system that if you advise against vaccination the A.M.A. will push to deregister." Medical Doctor: Dr Robyn Cosford

      "These are symptoms that if they were seen in a child who had not just been vaccinated, all us doctors would be a little concerned that this child perhaps had a type of viral meningitis. We wouldn't just sit back and say 'That's fine. Take some Panadol and it will go away,' " - Dr Robyn Cosford

      "The medical system Is a colossal deception that has filled the world with incurable invalids, of which mines have been emptied of cankering minerals, the intestines of animals taxed for their filth, the poison bags of reptiles drained of their venom, the blood of cats and dogs extracted, and all these with other abominations have been thrust down the throat of gullible human beings." - Dr. J. M. Good, M.D., F.R.S.

      "We have no real proof of the boasted effectiveness of any form of anti-toxin or vaccine or serum... If such a vaccinated or immunised person contracts the disease which he is supposed to be protected, it is pretty good evidence that such "protection" is valueless, isn't it? Surely people do contract disease against which they are supposed to be immunised, as we all know.... Well, are you satisfied that WE ARE QUACKS? In the eyes of those who are willing to forgot the present prestige of medicine, such as it is, with all its dignity, its scientific jargon, its pratings of altruism, its great endowment, its well heralded "achievements," we are most assuredly quacks, professing to do things we cannot do, and yes, taking money under this pretence." Dr. Paul M. Koonin, D.D.Sc.

      "I have thought many times of all of the insane things we have advocated in medicine, that is one of the most insane - to insist on the vaccination of children, or anybody else, for the prevention of smallpox when, as a matter of fact, we are never able to prove that vaccination saved one man from smallpox." Dr. William Hay in his address to the Medical Freedom Society

      "Vaccination is a monstrosity, a misbegotten offspring of error and ignorance; it should have no place in either hygiene or medicine.... Believe not in vaccination, it is a world wide delusion, an unscientific practice, a fatal superstition with consequences measured today by tears and sorrow without end." Charles Rauta, Professor of Hygiene and Material Medical in the University of Perguia

      "Immunization against smallpox is more hazardous than the disease itself." Professor Ari Zuckerman, a member of the World Health Organization advisory panel on viruses.

      "It is now accepted that the risks of routine smallpox vaccination outweigh those of natural infection in Britain." The British medical Journal in January 1976

      "I have been saying for some years that the use of live vaccines such as that used from smallpox can activate a dormant infection such as that from AIDS (HIV)." Doctor Robert Gallo, well known AIDS researcher

      "This concept that vaccinated children are some kind of typhoid Mary is just rubbish. We now have a sicker group of children in the community. . . .It may be that you only get one chance to make one big mistake... because of the number of people vaccinated if you introduce a pathogen . . .  in a route that the body does not have a protection against. . . There are some doctors who disparagingly say 'There are some parents who think that just having a healthy child is good enough'. Well the truth is it IS good enough!" - Dr Mark Donohoe

      "Babies are injected with bits of animal, bacteria, viral DNA. They can be incorporated into the human genome. . . Why is it that only since the 40's have autism and brain damage come about? Because this was when immunisation was introduced to a large extent . . Vaccines are a billion dollar industry, and there are at least a billion good reasons there why it's continued." - Dr Peter Baratosy

      "Measles had been dying out in Europe, then they started vaccination and it rose again, and the thing that had cured measles was better nutrition programs..." Independant Nurse Practitioner Pauline Rose

      "To think the needle is going to protect you is as silly as thinking that drugs will make you healthy." - Andrew Saul, PhD

      "The only safe vaccine is one that is never used." - Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health

      "We have no real proof of the boasted effectiveness of any form of anti-toxin or vaccine or serum... If such a vaccinated or immunised person contracts the disease which he is supposed to be protected, it is pretty good evidence that such "protection" is valueless, isn't it? Surely people do contract disease against which they are supposed to be immunised, as we all know.... Well, are you satisfied that WE ARE QUACKS? In the eyes of those who are willing to forgot the present prestige of medicine, such as it is, with all its dignity, its scientific jargon, its pratings of altruism, its great endowment, its well heralded "achievements," we are most assuredly quacks, professing to do things we cannot do, and yes, taking money under this pretence." Dr. Paul M. Koonin, D.D.Sc.

      A growing number of parents have taken a look at the dark side of vaccinations and the unknown risks to the future health and develpment of their children, and at the profit oriented system of managed illness and a lifetime of increasing prescriiption drugs that makes up mainstream western medicine, and have decided that the best way to protect their children is through proper natural hgygeine and a good healthy diet and lifestyle that builds a strong immune system.

      I agree with them.

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