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  • Antiviral Protocol for MS by Hveragerthi   5 year  4,214  Vitamin C Debate
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            Date: 10/25/2008 8:26:20 PM   ( 5 year ago )
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            get these anti viral protocols for free,...paid for by an als patient.

            and shut this pathetic author up for good!!!!!


            dear sir:

            whoever you are or where ever you come from.

            a lou gherigs patient who should have been dead ten years ago, thinks you are corrupt, and is offended by your statements.

            he has used antiviral protocols for last ten years. he was diagnosed 24 years ago, and is the only lou gehrigs patient i have ever known who can walk and talk after 24 years. considering he was on a respirator 10 years ago, i am offended by your willingness to reject certain studies and then support others.

            this guy would be dead if he listen to you.his disease was so much more dangerous than this protocol ever could be!!! you foolish little man!

            many of your arguments are a joke! your justifications can be simply turned around and applied to half of everything you have written. if you want to argue out both sides of your mouth, i can't engage that! sorry!

            how do you discredit information stated by another person by using a philosophy that can be turned around and applied to your writings as well? lol!!!

            when you have a nobel peace prize in medicine, i will listen more closely to your rantings, until then i put my money on the nobel prize winning chemists, lol! they attest that you are almost right! half-right!

            justifying your refusal to state who you are and what you have studied in one sentence and then asking me to provide even more info. on my own credentials in the next sentance is just hillarious and demonstrates to everyone reading that you are coming from a position that completely lacks logical, objective basis for your thinking.

            how do you discredit a statement because it is "theory," and then argue with your own, "theories." at least i am objective enough to call them theories in the first place.

            you only wish to argue and win a debate, not provide or discover the truth. like you have an agenda, like you feel threatened.

            bottom line is i see wonders being done on a daily basis, before my own eyes and i got this guy over here who shall remain nameless by choice, who wants m.s. sufferers to be afraid of "dangerous," therapies that are doing wonders for m.s., autoimmune, and cancer sufferers.

            i say, m.s. is more dangerous than any thing in this protocol, and you say it isn't! what a jokester you are!

            i don't mean to exclude ozone, which has it's own risks! but if it makes you feel any better, i love ozone for the same reasons you love ozone. in fact, i am looking at trying to ozonate oils, which ones to ozonate first, and instead of being of help to this goal, you choose to use to go the other way and use the words "dangerous," several different times to discredit competing therapies that don't use ozone. don't worry! ozone should be added to this protocol in my opinion, although it too can be "dangerous" too!

            too much water is also dangerous! lol!!!!

            you my friend are dangerous!

            polysacharides do not destroy the immune system you freak. how dare you make such a preposterous statement. studies have been done in humans using aloe short, medium, long chain (lipopolysacharides,)and they show exactly which white cells these individual substances affect. these are posted on my website.

            you are lying about these destroying the immune system.

            what is your name and what is your mailing address.

            bacterial vaccines all contain bacterial lipopolysacharides which, stimulate the immune system, or is it modulate? you seem to want to spit this hair and distract people from the obvious.

            oh! how i wish i could meet you in person! you would never think i was close to suicide from chronic illness if you saw what i have instore for you.

            jesus! i'm taking the antiviral protocol right now as it is an "anaerobic" protocol,
            but don't you worry. you have investments in ozone machines,....i will support your ozone treatments with the same enthusiasm as i do the therapies i am taking. ok?

            in the mean time, i put my money on nobel prize winners, and not some nameless guy who pretends to have all the answers and hasn't even read the nebraska study yet! hahahaha!

            hey everybody! stop laughing at this vitamin c "expert" who hasn't even seen the only study every conducted on high dose intravenous ascorbates.

            good bye and good riddance! i just made this protocol available for free!
            stick around and watch what happens if you dare!

            by the way, u of neb. medical center has those toxicity reports waiting for you. you can reach them at their website, but for some reason i don't see you wanting to admit the whole truth with mega dose vitamin c infusions. i don't see you asking or even seeking out the only i.v. toxicity trials done on vitamin c in america. you would have done so already if you really knew anything or cared.

            in fact!! why don't you go and get these studies, copy them here as proof you really care about the truth, as you have already shot your credibility to hell.

            i would think this data would be of interest to you! again 100,000 mg. not taken orally, injected in veins mind you.

            gosh! you're not even close. it's almost a laugh that you argue toxicity and haven't even attemtpted to see these toxicity studies. lol!!

            this above protocol asks for a meger 20,000 mg. a miniscule amount compared to the 100k they injected at neb med school! dangerous? not hardly!

            good god, i watched a cancer patient spontaniously lysis his brain tumor with this therapy that was done at home by an osteopath. good thing he didn't listen to you, he would be dead today as well,.....do you here me! he would be dead if he read your pile of half truths and mischaracterizations! his name is rick sanders and he had glioma, with six months to live.

            please! quit calling these natural remedies dangerous, you are the only dangerous thing here!

            for crying out loud! nothing can be more dangerous than m.s. or cancer you insensitive ice cube!!!

            is that your position? vitamin c and baking soda are more dangerous than m.s.?
            you see how m*o*o*nic you appear when your position is put into perspective?

            obviously you know nothing of the fate m.s. and cancer patients go through!

            wake up! research a little more. vitamin c foundation has more scientific data collected than any other entity, just for people like yourself who read a single study by someone who fears natural medicine! then you grab onto that one study like it was a life vest in the rapids.

            you have no business even arguing toxicity of vitamin c if you haven't even read the results of the only toxicity trial ever conducted!!! lol!!

            i've seen the old a.m.a. studies on vitamin c. i've seen how they couldn't even replicate dosing, and then they try to draw a credible conclusion when the therapy doesn't reproduce original results. how terrible is that!

            i can do this with aspirin. i'll give 1/4 aspirin to migrain sufferers and when it doesn't work, i report how aspirin has no benefit with headaches. that's what a couple vitamin c studies did, these made it to jama, and proves a.m.a. has lost it's mind with respect to vitamn c issue, while hundreds of worldwide studies haven't even made it to the journal that have relpicated original studies.

            yeah! great point of reference, seeing you haven't even read the latest study.
            i believe it was sponsored by the n.i.h.

            in the meantime, go back to selling ozone by promoting it's benefits, but stop trying to throw road blocks to sufferers who can take this protocol at reasonable price and get relief.

            it's gonna be free right now! thanks to you!

            in fact, when i showed your article to a lou gherigs patient, he became outraged. he is a millionare from brookland n.y. he has made an offer to show everyone on curezone that you are not objective and have another agenda. he will sponsor a curezone clinical trial of this protocol and make it available for free just to curezone sufferers!!!!

            he hates you that much!!! lol!!!

            he has agreeed to buy three months therapies to five m.s. sufferers. he wishes to use chronic progressive sufferers so that dormancy or reversal of symptoms wont be misinterprated as autoimmune remission.

            anybody want to try and cure their m.s. for free, using natural medicine?

            i will track your progress as your private nurse advocate, i will coordinate with your primary doctor and test your liver, just to prove this guy is trying to steer people way off the track. i take this protocol myself and it saved my life.

            after three months i will post all five of your responses to this therapy, including side affects, adverse reactions, and favorable responses.

            contact me! the first five chronic progressive sufferers will get free treatments.
            courtesy of mr. katz, an als survivor.

            but don't thank me, don't thank mr. katz, thank this nameless entitity who tried to call something great for your health, a danger to your health!


            with utmost sincerity:

            bret peirce, author of "unified theory of disease," author of "peirce postulate."
            480-285-6716

            p.s. i'll pay you for your contact information mr. dangerous! i will pay you for your address, place of employment and full name!!!!! i got an attorney who would like to send you some very informative data. i'll put $500.00 into escrow, you give me your contact information. also, maybe you should contact u of neb. medical school and tell them how you know more about toxicity of vitamin c than they do.
            hahaha!!!!!!

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