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 "You definitely have a tendency to misinterpret, twist, or distort. Additionally, I am well aware of what parasites are and can do from my years of college ad a biology major and from my graduate studies in biomedical engineering. I have learned over the years that what we are taught is not always true and what is thought to be true today is shown to be wrong tomorrow......"

You've got it backwards, you are the one who is lying and twisting facts.  I don't remember anywhere that the AMA promoted smoking - but I do remember some doctors who did.  A few doctors are not the AMA.

>- regarding a high number of illnesses caused by accidents or visits for other reasons

I did not say caused, I said "A great many illnesses are discovered as a result of accidental injuries or from visits to the doctor for other reasons." Another distortion on your part.

Picky, picky, picky.  Please tell me the difference between "a high number" and "A great many."  And you accuse me of distortion?  Again, give me some percentage numbers because they are really low.

>- It's still not the book I was referring to.

Are you sure of that too? You seem to be avoiding naming it.

You claimed to be reading my mind by supplying me with the name of the book so I figured you could find it on your own.  You are such an expert on cancer and you've never read "50 Essential Things to do When the Doctor Says It's Cancer" by Greg Anderson?  It contains no alternative medicine, but it does provide a path for people diagnosed with cancer.  I followed his recommendations.  I've been prostate cancer free for 18 years without medical intervention and I don't have one damned parasite in me and there were no parasites found in the in depth analysis of the cancer material that came out of me.

>- that ALL cancer is subjected to laboratory review

No, not all. But yes, most cancer is given a cursory examination to determine the types of cells present, Nothing more. There is no immediate or postmortem examination to attempt to find possible causes in all but a few exceptions. Again, you have misread, misinterpreted, or misrepresented what the original statement was.

You mentioned the fact that there not all post mortem cancers are tested and I never disagreed with you on that point.  However to say that cancers that are removed are giving a "cursory" review is a humongous distortion of what really goes on.  You are stumbling over your closed mind.  The cancers are given an in-depth analysis and a parasite in the cancer has never been found in North America, in spite of your claims and in spite of what Hulda has written.

>- you still think that a monster fluke is responsible for them?

It is entirely possible, what you overlook, or possibly misrepresent is that each and every fluke will be that size. That is how big they "can get". If a person has several smaller ones, it is easy to overlook them. Most CT scans, MRI's, etc will miss them anyhow. These scans use contrast agents that are specifically absorbed by actively growing cancer cells but not by other normal tissue, including parasites. Also, if you had bothered to read the cancer page that I sent you a link to, you would see that there are other parasites that increase the risk of and even cause cancer. This is according to the NIH. I used to have many more links to their site but as soon as I posted a link, they took the pages down to hide the truth. I now keep a copy of every page that I refer to.

That CT scans and MRI's will miss most of them is out and out trash talk with nothing to back it up.  This "giant" (in terms of a fluke, it is a giant) can get well over 2 inches.  That's a slam dunk for a CT scan.  They find things much smaller than that, and I've experienced it.  There have been no flukes found in conjunction with a cancer in North America.

>- Hulda says that the liver fluke is in ALL cancer

Please refer me to that page. What I read was that the liver fluke was present in all cancer patients. Is this another distortion?

I gave you the name of her book, the chapter, page number, and even quoted some of her writing.  Before I did that you claimed to never have heard that Fasciolopsis buskii (which has been ridiculed all over the Internet besides quackwatch - including the University of Iowa)?  You claim to follow her advice and have "read her books" yet have not read that?  

>- That's another of your utterly ludicrous statements with nothing but Hulda to back it up

Here you are flat out misrepresenting. I have links to the National Institute of Health that back me up but you do not bother to read them.

That's because you never provided a link.

>- Neither a fluke nor any other parasite has ever been found in me or the cancer tissue that has been removed from me including lung cancer. It is impossible for these items you swear by to have been missed with all the testing that is done today.

Let me see, hmmmm, what contrasting agent is going to show up a fluke? Oh, well, since PET scans are specifically designed to highlight cancer cells, surely they would show a foreign body? No, they are designed to find cancer cells! Don't be totally naive, tests such as CT, PET, etc. only find what they as designed to find. Everything else is background.

What contrasting agent do tumors have to make them show up?  I have a neighbor who's lungs are almost filled with small tumors (from fungus, a common result of living in Southern California and Nevada) and they show up on X-rays as well as a CT scan.  They are no different than 2 plus inch worms - yet they are much, much, smaller..

>- F. buski does not live in the liver: these large leaf-shaped worms inhabit the upper regions of the small intestine.

>- one of several species of aquatic snail. ... If the right species of snail is absent, the miracidia die. ... You will also note that in order to complete its life cycle it has to find a host snail of a particular variety

There are snails in North American waters that can serve as the intermediate host although not as well. However, that is mute in many cases.

As I stated before, several million North Americans have been to S.E. Asia. We import foods from S.E. Asia which may be contaminated

Then why haven't any F. buski been found in North America?  They sure don't have a problem finding them in S. E. Asia.  As I understand it the required conditions go beyond just the snail which is one of several reasons they are found outside of Asia.

As I stated before, several million North Americans have been to S.E. Asia. We import foods from S.E. Asia which may be contaminated.

Yes, I've been there too.  The foods that carry the required fluke have to be fresh, not cooked. Despite your insistence that these giant worms/flukes are in North America, none have ever been found - anywhere!  Why is it that doctors/science in Asia find them and we can't?  Did you flush out flukes in your cancer cure?  Did you have a lab identify them?

>- It is impossible for them to complete a life cycle within the human body as Hulda claims in the book section that I referred to. The eggs have to be passed from the body before they can continue their life cycle.

I agree with this in general, but oddly, they keep finding exceptions to these so called rules.

I think we actually agree on a lot of things, but I think the belief of Hulda's "findings" and "cures" is mass hysteria.  I have read a book on a guy who cured his bone marrow cancer - by a professor at Oxford who learned to breathe through his toes and did coffee enemas after visiting Gerson's daughter.  He was given 6 months to live and lasted 10 years when, refusing medical intervention, he died from an infected tooth.  I do believe that you have to put everything together and go with what you think will work for you.  I seriously doubt the exceptions but if that's what it takes for your belief system, then have at it.

In summation, If you are not a doctor, you should be because it appears that you can not look beyond the end of your nose.

Modern medicine is in the dark ages and the candle that you are holding is behind that. The National Institute of Health backs me up. According to their publications, many parasites, including several flukes, cause cancer.

Again, you've got it backwards.  I have never claimed to be a doctor and neither was Hulda.  Just because Hulda had a PhD in biology, her ND was a 100 hour correspondence course.  Please provide the NIH sources.  If they say that flukes cause cancer, Hulda says all cancer is caused that way.

I can see beyond the end of my nose, it is you that is close minded - in spite of your education - which references to are almost always a sign of very low self-esteem. 

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