CureZone.com   Educating Instead of Medicating Like CureZone on Facbook!
Home > Forums12382 visitors online now Add To Favorites Log On    Join/Sign Up    User Finder   Inbox New

Re: 7 Weeks of Milk Kefir update - Failure!

Forum: Candida Support,  Kefir Grain
Read This First:  BSA  RN  ALL R  ~BSA  ~RN  RRR  RR  R  Image Embedded  Video Embedded Audio Embedded   Images   Description   Candida Homepage   Ask Dr Eric Bakker   Rules
  Home
   Forums
      Candida Support Forum   Kefir Grain
Search CureZone:
 
 
  • 7 Weeks of Milk Kefir update - Failure! by NewUK   3 year  10,389  Candida Support / Kefir Grai
    • Re: 7 Weeks of Milk Kefir update - Failure! by Cheshire77   3 year  9,992
    • Re: 7 Weeks of Milk Kefir update - Failure!  by grzbear   3 year  10,854
      This is my avatar. Click here to see my profile.
      grzbear
      Re: 7 Weeks of Milk Kefir update - Failure!
      PM grzbear
      Date: 4/9/2010 8:03:04 PM   ( 3 year ago )
      Hits:   10854   Size: 7302 char.  
      URL:   http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1603608
      Bad Message Alert: Alert Moderators on This BAD Message   Good Message Alert: Alert Moderators on This GOOD Message

      I am taking a guess here that you were eating very well... and used the best quality raw milk you could get your hands on for the kefir.

      That said - it is becoming more obvious by the day it seems, that a lifestyle of antibiotic everything - kill the germs, what-have-you is all wrong. I suspect if you were born, raised to be in a sterile environment, and live in one now (I know people who clean their whole houses with disinfectants and bleach - they are the sickest people I know) that it may take a great deal of time to correct the issues you are having.

      Start out by getting dirty... and playing in the dirt - plant a garden and work in it everyday getting dirt under your fingernails and bare feet. You will get some good bacteria if you do not use chemicals on your garden - or soap to kill them off.

      Here are a few articles for you...

      One states in part...

      >>"Because parasitic worms coevolved with us for the vast majority of human history (even mummies have them), they likely evolved ways to turn down the immune system just enough to permit their survival without severely harming their hosts. "I think the consensus, if there is one, is that chronic worm infections induce an immunoregulatory response in the body," says Mitre. "Exactly how that immunoregulatory milieu is set up remains unknown.""<<

      And another states...

      >>"Findings could provide a new twist on the hygiene hypothesis, which suggests that rising allergy rates are linked to our more antiseptic, modern lifestyle."<<

      That *lifestyle* includes natural and alternative medicines that are based upon Pasteur's Germ Theory... zappers, Rife, SCIO, colloidal silver and Iodine in quantities great enough to cause disruption to these critters.

      They have their place... I suppose in some cases... just as antibiotics do... such as when the person's terrain is so poor, the bad guys wreak havoc and threaten life.

      http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/25017/page2/

      Lack of Chronic Worm Infections Leads to More Allergies and Asthma and other Inflammation diseases

      Technology Review reports mounting evidence in both humans and animals suggests that infection with these parasitic worms seems to protect against a number of inflammatory diseases, including asthma and allergy, multiple sclerosis, Crohn's disease, and type 1 diabetes

      We became dependent on helminths [parasitic worms] and made ourselves vulnerable to immunologic diseases. A number of epidemiological studies have shown that people infected with parasitic worms suffer less from allergies and other immune diseases, and research in animal models designed to mimic these diseases supports these findings. The rise in allergies and other ailments in rich countries over the last few decades has been matched by a decrease in parasitic worm infection, among other factors. Researchers found that people with parasitic infections have these unique protein fragments in their bloodstreams, while unaffected people have few or none.

      Scientists hope to decipher how these organisms control the immune systems of their human hosts and to develop new therapies that replicate the parasites' beneficial effect. "We can treat people with worms, or can we figure out how worms protect, and discover a new way to treat allergies by mimicking what worms do," says Ed Mitre, a physician and scientist at the Uniformed Services University in Bethesda, MD. "My general feeling is that we should be trying to induce the types of immune responses we see in chronic worm infections."

      New technologies that allow scientists to analyze microbes more precisely than ever before will reveal why allergy rates in Sweden and other wealthy nations, including the United States, have risen dramatically over the past 50 years, while rates in historically poorer nations, such as Estonia, have not.

      Findings could provide a new twist on the hygiene hypothesis, which suggests that rising allergy rates are linked to our more antiseptic, modern lifestyle. If scientists can find the elusive x factor that either protects against allergies or increases risk for them, they may be able to recreate it, perhaps by dosing mothers or babies with healthy bacteria, known as probiotics. "We're on the verge of a revolution in understanding the human microbiome," says Björkstén. "The key to understanding these diseases may be in the gut, rather than in the environment."

      Initial studies of the children's gut microbes using traditional microbiology approaches have yielded tantalizing clues into their role in allergy: the number and diversity of microbes inhabiting a baby's gut soon after birth seem to predict his likelihood of later developing allergic disease. In addition, babies born in urban environments have fewer microbes and fewer diverse microbial communities than those born and raised on farms.

      and...

      http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/25017/page1/

      Fighting Allergies by Mimicking Parasitic Worms

      As blossoming spring trees spew pollen, many allergy sufferers would be grateful for a more effective way to alleviate their itchy misery. How about swallowing a batch of pig whipworm eggs, or deliberately infecting oneself with the fecal-dwelling hookworm? Yucky as these options sound, mounting evidence in both humans and animals suggests that infection with these parasitic worms seems to protect against a number of inflammatory diseases, including asthma and allergy, multiple sclerosis, Crohn's disease, and type 1 diabetes.
      ___________________________________

      We got it all wrong with modern medicine... we are symbiotic and synergistic.

      That said... I believe that our inner terrain, and gut health determines the *types* of microbes and parasites we may attract...

      For instance, healthy plants are not bothered much by *bad* parasites and predatory insects and such; these healthy plants attract protective\beneficial parasites and insects... sick plants attract the predators (insects and parasites) that destroy them.

      Same is true for animals\birds, etc.

      As an example, a local CNG farmer lets predators have at his fields to NATURALLY *weed* out the unhealthy *food*.

      But he also has little problem with this due to his farming methods...

      A healthy human will not get colds and flues, while those around them do... why is that? Terrain - and microflora, and perhaps beneficial and commensal parasites.

      Here is another article for you...

      http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1602643#i

      we are on the verge of a huge paradigm shift I believe.

      I suspect your physical responses were adjustments to the changes going on in your body... especially if you have had a history of vaccines, antibiotics, antibacterial soaps and cleaners... etc.

      You may want to take it very slowly if you ever decide to do this again... a good raw milk kefir will have 1.2 billion organisms per mL...

      But then again... I suspect we are at a crossroads in many medical and health arenas...

      Some people will be able to go back to the way it was... others will not.

      grz-

      Printer-friendly version of this page
      Email this message to a friend
      Bookmark this page/Add to Favorites or press Ctrl+D
      Alert Webmaster & Moderators
      Bad Message Alert: Alert Moderators on This BAD Message  Good Message Alert: Alert Moderators on This GOOD Message
      How do you feel about this message?     Agree     Disagree       Hide this question
      This message was cross-posted across the next forums: 1.   Candida Support Forum
      2.   Kefir Grain Forum
      Reply to This Message   Post a Reply to this message by using a plain text editor  Post a Reply to this message by using an advanced HTML text processor called FCK  Post a Reply to this message by using an advanced HTML text processor called Tiny MCE

      Attributes associated with this message:

      grzbear will be notified if you reply to this message!

      Use of CureZone is subject to the following Terms of Service
      Find & Order All Messages Posted by grzbear
      by
      DISCLAIMER / WARNING Important Disclaimer!
      Answers, comments and opinions provided on CureZone are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. CureZone does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in messages, comments or articles on CureZone. Your use of this website indicates your agreement to these terms and those published here. Read more ...
      Selected Ads from CureZone Sponsors

      Stop Yeast, Thrush & Candida Problems
      From Making Your Life Miserable! Threelac can help y...


      Crush Your Candida
      Dr. Eric Bakker Candida Crusher Program To Kill Candida Yeast Forever. G...


      Destroy Parasites Quickly
      Learn How to Destroy Parasites And Be Free of Your Unbearable Sym...


      Proven Candida Diet
      The Only Legitimate Diet for Treating Candida in 30 Days


      Candida Crusher!
      Dr. Eric Bakker’s Powerful Candida Crusher Program. Get Your Copy Today!


      Yeast Infection Stopped!
      Hear my No-BS story on how I stopped my yeast problems once and fo...















    • Re: 7 Weeks of Milk Kefir update - Failure! by cora   3 year  9,835
    • Re: 7 Weeks of Milk Kefir update - Failure! by maskedhombre   3 year  9,875
    • Re: 7 Weeks of Milk Kefir update - Failure! by #127366   3 year  9,783
    • Re: Water Kefir by willie634   3 year  9,734
    • coconut kefir is the best way to heal, uses that!!!n/m by #43934   7 mon  5,110

Selected Ads from CureZone Sponsors

$10 off Oxy-Powder®
1 time use only. A special discount to all curezone members!


Stop Yeast, Thrush & Candida Problems
From Making Your Life Miserable! Threelac can help y...


Medical FACT
Fact: Cancer Can Be Cured With Quercetin + Vitamin C For Only 6 Dollars!


Proven Candida Diet
The Only Legitimate Diet for Treating Candida in 30 Days


Candida Crusher!
Dr. Eric Bakker’s Powerful Candida Crusher Program. Get Your Copy Today!


Crush Your Candida
Dr. Eric Bakker Candida Crusher Program To Kill Candida Yeast Forever. G...


Destroy Parasites Quickly
Learn How to Destroy Parasites And Be Free of Your Unbearable Sym...


Original Hulda Clark
Parasites Cleanse: Black Walnut, Cloves & Wormwood


Yeast Infection Stopped!
Hear my No-BS story on how I stopped my yeast problems once and fo...









 
Selected Ads from CureZone Sponsors

$10 off Oxy-Powder®
1 time use only. A special discount to all curezone members!


Stop Yeast, Thrush & Candida Problems
From Making Your Life Miserable! Threelac can help y...


Medical FACT
Fact: Cancer Can Be Cured With Quercetin + Vitamin C For Only 6 Dollars!


Proven Candida Diet
The Only Legitimate Diet for Treating Candida in 30 Days


Candida Crusher!
Dr. Eric Bakker’s Powerful Candida Crusher Program. Get Your Copy Today!


Crush Your Candida
Dr. Eric Bakker Candida Crusher Program To Kill Candida Yeast Forever. G...


Destroy Parasites Quickly
Learn How to Destroy Parasites And Be Free of Your Unbearable Sym...


Original Hulda Clark
Parasites Cleanse: Black Walnut, Cloves & Wormwood


 
Back To Top

Selected Ads from CureZone Sponsors: Become a Sponsor

VIP

Bentonite Clay Powder $8
Amazing detoxifying properties: a magnet for toxic elements present ...
$10 off Oxy-Powder®
1 time use only. A special discount to all curezone members!
High Blood Pressure?
3 easy exercises drop blood pressure below 120/80 as soon as today
Hulda Clark Cleanse Kits
New Lower Prices!!!
Hulda Clark Cleanses
Parasites Cleanse Kit, Kidney Stones Cleansing Kit, Bowel Cleanse Kit
 
 

PLAT

Oxy-Powder® Colon Cleanse
Top Rated Natural Oxygen Cleanse. Best Product Line by NaturalNews....
Stop Yeast, Thrush & Candida Problems
From Making Your Life Miserable! Threelac can help you...
I regained my life!
I no longer worry about having Herpes outbreaks
Clark Bowel Cleanse
Dr. Hulda Clark’s Bowel Program (Intestinal Cleanse). Pure products! Grea...
Detoxify and Cleanse Naturally
Drink ionized alkaline waters medically proven health benefits...
Medical FACT
Fact: Cancer Can Be Cured With Quercetin + Vitamin C For Only 6 Dollars!
 
 

GOLD

Master Cleanse
Get the most popular ebook on the Master Cleanse!
Candida Crusher
Dr. Eric Bakker Candida Crusher Program To Kill Candida Yeast Forever. Get Yo...
Bad Breath Cure, Halitosis Remedy
Dr. Anthony Dailley has 98% success rate.
Colloidal Silver Free!
Buy $100 in Non-Colloidal Supplement Products & Get a Free Bottle of A...
Clarkia Parasites Cleanse $22
Black Walnut, Cloves & Wormwood
Crush Your Candida
Dr. Eric Bakker Candida Crusher Program To Kill Candida Yeast Forever. Get...
 
 

GOLD

Royal Defense - The Safest Candida Treatment
Royal Defense is a food supplement made from pla...
Proven Candida Diet
The Only Legitimate Diet for Treating Candida in 30 Days
Anti Cancer Medical Effect
Medical researchers confirm electrolyzed reduced water protects ag...
Proven Parasite Diet
The Only Legitimate Diet for Destroying Parasites in 30 Days or Less
Proven medical anti-diabetic benefits
Electrolyzed drinking water significantly reduces blood...
Dr. Clark Zappers
Dr. Hulda Clark’s Zapper frequency device have become widely used and are a...
 
 

SILVER

Lugol’s Iodine Free S&H
J.Crow’s® Lugol’s Iodine Solution. Restore lost reserves.
Bad Breath Cure, Bad Breath Treatment, How To Cure
Bad Breath Cure, Bad Breath Treatment, How...
Women
Total Woman Cleanse is exclusively for women that helps in the healing process of all f...
The Tesla Shield®
Transformational Technology For Mind Body And Soul.
No More Yeast!
Get a risk-free 40-day trial of the product that has revolutionized how people...
The Best Years in Life
Naturally live longer, healthier and happier and avoid mainstream mana...
 
 

SILVER

Dangers Of Blue Tooth Devices!!
Using a Blue Tooth Device in Your Ear May be More Deadly Than...
Natural Cancer Remedies
Natural Cancer Remedies
 
 
Back To Top How many people click on the sponsord links? Become a Sponsor

 


 

Donate to CureZone

 


Share:  Facebook  MySpace  Digg  Reddit  StumbleUpon  Furl this page  Delicious  Magnolia  Mixx  BlinkList  dzone  Spurl  Simpy.com  Fark.com  BlogMarks  Wists.com  Google

Translate This Page:

French    German    Spain    Italian    Dutch    Russian    Portuguese    Japanese    Korean    Arabic    Chinese Simplified



 


Guest Book - Liver Flush FAQ - News - Link Exchange - Add URL - How To Exchange Links? - About Global Directory

Terms of Service - Privacy Policy - Spam Policy - Disclaimer - Guidelines & Rules - Forum Trolls - Fair use notice

Staff's pages:  Owen - Wrenn - Maya


CureZone Newsletter is distributed in partnership with www.netatlantic.com


Contact Us - About - Donors - Stats



Copyright 1996 - 2012 curezone.com


fetched in 0.81 sec at 5/18/2013 9:39:09 PM, requested by 184.73.74.47, referred by http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1603608 , requested 1 pages in this session, y=4