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  • Bile in the Colon: Carcinogenic? by Cargoshorts66   21 mon  2,008   0 of 5 (0%)  Liver Flush Debate
    • Re: Bile in the Colon: Carcinogenic? by Michael B   21 mon  1,941   4 of 4 (100%)
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    • pH of "liver bile" or "gallbladder bile" + "mixers"...Re: Bile in the Co... by unyquity   21 mon  2,900   5 of 6 (83%)
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          • Reply to FS man. by #143595   21 mon  1,894   5 of 9 (55%)
            • Re: Reply to FS man.  by Hveragerthi   21 mon  1,724   1 of 8 (12%)
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               Right on cue the "liver flush" supporters reply with an insult since they have no real evidence to back up their claims and they don't have a clue what they are talking about.

              Also right on cue the "liver flush" supporters vote "agree" since they don't have a clue that the post they are voting on was incorrect.

              How do you explain the fact that bile reflux can not only cause gastritis but also esophageal ulcerations due to the alkalinity?

              Meaningless question!

              Not at all if you really understood the concept of bile reflux.


              Bile reflux is not caused by bile itself but from stagnation or blockage of undigested fats or foods from a bile deficiency itself . All the more reason to do the flushes. FLUSH get it fecal soap man, making bile flow! CLEANSE clearing blockage or making stagnating undigested foods move.

              ROTFLMAO!!!!  This has to be one of the most entertaining boards on CZ just based on the funny, absolutely ridiculous claims made up by the "liver flush" supporters.

              Bile reflux occurs not from bile stagnation, but rather from an improperly functioning pyloric valve.  Normally this valve closes quickly to prevent bile from entering the stomach or esophagus.  When it is not functioning properly the valve may not close fast enough or completely allowing the bile to escape up in to the stomach and possibly the esophagus.  Again, the "liver flush" supporters need to stop making up facts to fit their needs.  All this does is show their complete ignorance of the subject and makes them look even more foolish than they already do by believing in the fantasy called "liver flushing".

              Then there is the difference between colon pH and bile pH. Colon pH is 5.5 to 7, so acidic to neutral. Bile on the other hand as you have shown is basic.


              Irrelevent.Especially if the flushes are done properly using enemas or 
              colonics after the flushes.

              Again, not irrelevant at all since the topic was how bile affects the colon.  Just because you do not understand such a simple concept this does not make it irrelevant.


              Now a lesson on pH. On the pH scale of 0 to 14 each factor of 1 increases the alkalinity or acidity by a factor of 10. For example, a pH of 1 is 100 times more acidic than a pH of 3 (a change of two on the pH scale equals 10 X 10, thus 100). A pH of 14 is 100,000 times more alkaline than a pH of 10. Now lets look at the average pH levels of both the colon and bile. The average pH of the colon is roughly 6 while the pH of bile is roughly 8. So we find that bile is therefore 100 times more alkaline than the average pH of the colon. Why people would think that such a drastic pH change could not cause problems is beyond me unless they simply do not understand how the body works. And yes, the bile is going to be altered somewhat by things such as flora acids. But again, I was talking about a sudden large amount of bile being dumped in to the intestines, which would overwhelm any buffering system. It is hilarious though how all the "liver flush" supporters gang up together to vote "agree" on any message any other "liver flush" supporter posts regardless of how misleading or outright wrong the information they posted is.

              The rest is all common knowledge 

              At least you got one thing right.

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