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  • A thought on LF /77 1 by vik24   20 mon  1,788  Liver Flush Debate
    • Re: A thought on LF2 by Hveragerthi   20 mon  1,690   1 of 7 (14%)
      • Re: A thought on LF3 by vik24   20 mon  1,463   1 of 2 (50%)
      • Re: A thought on LF13 by lisamarie23   20 mon  1,496   3 of 5 (60%)
      • Re: A thought on LF15 by parazapper   20 mon  1,521   3 of 5 (60%)
        • Re: A thought on LF16 by Hveragerthi   20 mon  1,515   2 of 5 (40%)
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              • Re: A thought on LF 19 by parazapper   20 mon  1,445   3 of 5 (60%)
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                >- But the body RARELY goes acidic or alkaline.

                The few hundred here that are concerned may just be that rare exception. I was.

                >- the information being spouted by so many is wrong.

                Yeah, CisPlat is great stuff!

                >- Acidity does not cause disease

                It is a symptom of the disease.

                >- alkalinity actually turns on the Candida growth gene and converts Candida from a benign yeast form in to a highly aggressive and pathogenic fungal form

                So, why did my Candida problem decrease as I became more alkaline? I struggled with it for years. Got rid of a lot but it kept wanting to come back. After alkalizing, I was able to control candida and it is not a problem any longer. Also got rid of other fungal problems. My early morning urine pH was around 5.6 which is a definite indication of systemic problems. Many of my problems went away once I got it up to around 6.8 to 7.0.

                >- In fact cancer cells actually rely on alkalinity to survive and proliferate

                Misleading at best. I took a lab course in immunology and serology and as a part of the course, we had to culture cancer cell lines. One big requirement of the task --- Keep the pH below 7.36 ??? Why was that when a normal serum pH is 7.38 to 7.42 ? The higher alkalinity reduced the growth of tumor cell lines.

                >- extremely rare since the body has so many redundant systems to maintain its pH

                Yes, like erroding the bones. I am certai that no one here suffers from or will ever suffer from osteoporosis! Calcium is used to maintain alkalinity and if it is not present in sufficient amounts, it will be removed from the bone, causing a reduction in bone density. The lower the blood pH, the fasted bone is dissolved. The left over phosphate is excreted by the kidneys making the urine more acid.

                >- Maintaining pH by dealing with acids or bases is nothing wrong, it is normal part of everyday metabolism.

                No, the problem is when it fails. What you fail to accept, is that some of the sickest, most desparate people in the world are here seeking help for their problems because the real quack doctors want to tell them that they have mental problems and prescribe prozac or zoloft or some placebo.

                Since you have never had this problem, you do not know the whole story and you are misleading them by telling them your mainstream propoganda.

                People can easily upset their acid-alkaline balance by smoking ( excess CO2 ), consuming excess amounts of phosphoric acid ( Coke, pepsi, and other sodas ), excess sugars that are known to be converted to acids, especially when the body is not functioning properly.

                Once again, for every single hormone, enzyme, mineral, or any other compound in the body, there is an optimum temperature, and an optimum pH among other factors. The immune system exponentially degrades in performance below a pH of 7.38 . NK cells that are responsible for stopping cancer function poorly at a pH of 7.35 to 7.36 and function far better at 7.39 to 7.42.

                There are perfect natural cases for pH vs cancer as well as other illness.

                There are areas with highly alkaline water containing combinations of calcium, magnesium, cesium, and/or rubidium. In these areas, cancer is super rare, almost non-existant.

                One thing that I know is that I concocted an alkaline mineral water and drank it. This raised my early morning urine pH and soon after, many of my health issues became unapparent.

                >- many of the people here are CZ are completely ignorant on the subject.

                Go pick up an old outdated textbook and you will find that much of what was presented as fact is now known to be wrong. There is still a lot wrong in todays text books.

                I will offer one piece to support this. From the day I was born until I was over 50 years old, I spent 18 years in school and most of the rest of the time learing from books. Not once in those fifty years was it ever mentioned that electricity might kill bacteria, protozoa, fungi, etc. Now I know that it can be done in some cases with as little as 1.5 volts from a AAA battery. At the same time, there had been machines in the 1800's that could do this and possibly as far back as ancient Egypt and Baghdad.

                Not everything is in the text books and some of what is there is definitely wrong.

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