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  • Did Jesus die on the Cross?   chavey   27mo
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            Luke 18:31-33
            31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that

            *are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished*

            . 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 And they shall scourge him, and

            *put him to death*:

            *and the third day he shall rise again KJV

            …read, if you like, Psalms 22, Old Testament- for one location concerning the Son of man….written centuries before Christ was on the cross:
            Ps 22:16-18
            16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. KJV

            Hi Chavey,
            (Encata Dictionay) Dogma- a belief or set of beliefs that a religion holds to be true

            ?I wonder where does one public held dogma ends ~regarding spiritual truth~ and an another different public belief-believed dogma starts among the many communications of teaching, imparting ideas, discussions among humans about a “truth”? … Chavey… is not your personal post-witness of your belief a “dogma”, too… that you and/or others hold by a man’s constructive words to be true? “Hangs” on who each of us let become our Counselor and the tools that a Counselor may use to deliver Wisdom.

            Though, the majority of the people of this world don’t follow, witness a Biblical Narrative about Christ either and that is nothing unique –today- to hear, see.

            They are many beliefs out and about in this world to pick and follow …as one noted in this your outline by the ~possible~ belief you had just posted-written… that Christ didn’t die, wasn’t Crucified on a Roman- Cross- of- execution on Passover and wasn’t resurrected on the third day as written/found in a Bible…and and and others have posted here in this CZland forum that they personally believe that Christ (Emmanuel –God with us) didn’t live … or others that personally believe that there is no spiritual life after this human body dies. what's my point …belief /dis-belief… in the Bible… that is a fact of personal actions by people all over the Earth under freewill. You may quit reading from here-on as I will continue to quote Scriptures from The Bible to support my faith-based-belief for The Bible’s Information.

            As to your comment about… Christ not following, teaching, directing others to a “book” Christ said “ It is written “ many times… one Scripture-Mark 12:…

            Mark 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? KJV

            … although if you don’t ~Council words~ from a Bible- in meditation with The Holy Spirit…then we may have nothing to foundation on…~concerning~ …any building of maturity I may receive from a Bible or as a quote of Council I share with you and your personal meditation…

            And forsureandcertain I can NOT (not capable- Heb 4:) make or use a set of scales for judging your soul’s relationship or another’s soul with God- concerning eternal spiritual matters of our Father’s Wisdom and KINGdom. I personally value sensible sources of God’s Council that I seek for information about various taught subjects that are providing examples for me to reflex upon.

            Heb 4:11-16
            11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. KJV

            God: Father, The Son- Christ, and The Holy Spirit wants our Love not our private personal sacrifices for our sin/s…I agree with you... our focus is on Sincere Love…Chavey…

            Matt 22:37-40 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. KJV

            John 15:9-14
            9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. 12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. 14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. KJV

            Good hunting, lucid hunting among relationships in your source of council of death and life more abundantly, lucidhunt

            1 Cor 10:11-12
            11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples (examples): and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. KJV
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