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  • New breast cancer lumpectomy treatment reduces visit to one day by #136970   11 mon  1,325  Breast Cancer / News
    • Surgery and radiation? by Dquixote1217   11 mon  1,196   5
      • Spirit and elan takes you everywhere by #136970   11 mon  1,235
        • I'll see your Steve Jobs and raise you a Patrick Swayze by Dquixote1217   11 mon  1,208
          • Re: I'll see your Steve Jobs and raise you a Patrick Swayze  by #136970   11 mon  1,250
             Re: I'll see your Steve Jobs and raise you a Patrick Swayze
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            Date: 6/21/2012 9:43:23 PM   ( 11 mon ago )
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            You were responding to a very new, one day treatment and cure for breast cancer and you are absolutely blind when you cannot accept that new and alternative treatment.

            "...but I can tell you that there are alternatives which are hands down more successful than surgery, radiation or chemo - including the protocol which I recommend (which is much more than merely a combination of essiac tea and pau de arco) and which, as best we can determine has had about 95% success with stage I and II cancers and 85% with stage II and IV cancers - and that includes a great many people whom mainstream medicine failed to help."

            Those are pretty good numbers but I'd like to see them backed up.  Why hasn't the mainstream media caught on to them?  One of the problems here on CZ in particular is there is generally no  legitimate diagnosis before treatment?  I've seen many different ones who post under CZ Cancer section who self diagnose and say they have cancer.  I've seen some posts whose alternative doctor say they have cancer but I seriously doubt if any of them do.  So when you present your numbers, make sure they have been diagnosed by legitimate medical methods.  Your large following some other place is probably a Yahoo group of some kind and again, where's the before (properly diagnosed) and after statistics.

            I've seen you post many times that there are CZ members who "cured" cancer with your methods yet I never see their posts.

            (I still love Canadian Yoda's posts of her stage 4 healing with Essiac tea an Pau d'arco.  Have any of those who use your methods even approached hers?)

            You also reject spontaneous cancer healing and I accept it wholeheartedly.  I was raised in a Pentecostal church and believe in the many spontaneous healings that I witnessed and while I no longer follow that path, I have found a group who believes and teaches through an inward journey that we are each a bright spark of eternal light.  I've found and experienced that light and also recognize that everything that has happened in my life I have created, including my cancers, and so has everybody else - including you.  With that I have also experienced spiritual healings of physical ills, something that from previous posts I know that you reject.  One book on that level that really stands out is "Dying To Be Me: My Journey from Cancer, to Near Death, to True Healing" who battled cancer (with alternative methods) for four years only to die/have a NDE, and returned to completely heal her body in just a few short months.  Everyone - including your friend who died of cancer, chooses when and how they will die.  You fail to accept that fact and through your blame of the medical community (might be true, but he accepted it) you have gone off on a tangent trying to work out his solutions and not your own.

            By the way, Wayne Dyer was healed of his leukemia by John of God in Brazil.

            The foulness that you so many times post against those who don't believe and hate the medical community like you do represents what inside of you waiting to be healed.

            I was basically raised in an alternative world, before miracle drugs when nobody had health insurance so I am very familiar with the alternative field.  Yet I also learned while in combat in Korea that my Navy corpsman (who served alongside of us Marines - without a weapon) was a God.  He and the medical MASH unit behind the lines along with the hospital ship in Inchon Harbor were there for a very useful where it was totally impossible for any alternative medical person of any kind to operate with anything to contribute.  They put their lives in danger so that others might live.  That's my view of the medical world.  I have literally watched men die in combat many times while corpsmen tried to save them and your abuse of the medical field is akin to treason.  They aren't perfect, but they have a purpose and a very useful one at that.

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