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  • Worst President in history ? by Durwood   9 year  434  Politics Debate
    • Re: Worst President in history ? Just give Bush a bit more time...    R by Wiz   9 year  693
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      Re: Worst President in history ? Just give Bush a bit more time...
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      Date: 4/23/2004 2:36:00 PM   ( 9 year ago )
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      Worst President in History?

      The following appeared in the Durham, NC local paper as a letter to the editor.

      QUOTE:
      Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.

      *** And Saddam was just about to board a 757 and fly it into your apt building? In reality, Iraq was an unnecessay war, and was attacked for socio-economic political reasons, ...and 9 11 was allowed to happen. It was part of an internal agenda to trash the constitution, grab unlimited government power, promote a secret 'unaccountable to no one' state and finally bankrupt America.

      QUOTE:
      Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims.

      Lincoln allowed the US to fall into civil war. How would you like a nice Civil war today? You could go and kill your out of state relatives!

      *** In addition, Lincoln suspended the writ of Habeus Corpus and held hundreds and hundreds of political opponents without charges or trial. Maybe Lincoln wasn't the worst, but he's on the short list for destroying liberty and freedom in the USA. Aside from doing the same thing at Guantanamo Bay with foreigners, the Patriot Act II (that was temporarily shelved because it was so extreme) will give the Feds the power to accuse 'dissenting' American citizens of being terrorists and hold them virtually forever. Just wait until the next terrorist attack the government allows. This provision will quickly be passed by our spineless Congress. In addition, the Feds can still hold American citizens for years on a Material Witness warrant anyway.

      QUOTE:
      FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.

      *** That is correct. he also let Pearl harbor happen, just like the Bush regime let 9 11 happen.

      QUOTE:
      From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

      *** We are only at 700 + so far (with 20,000 rotated back sick or wounded), but it's early. If Bush steals another election, (or God forbid, ignorant Americans actually elect this lying simpleton), then I'm sure we'll get some real numbers up on the killed in action scorecard. Once Bush further institutes his fascist police state ideology and ramps up his new Holy War styled crusade against Islam, with this sham endless war on Terrorism (as if you can win a war against an abstract noun!) I'm sure we'll make at least make a run at the Vietnam KIA numbers.

      QUOTE:
      Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us.

      *** Gee, just like Iraq

      QUOTE:
      From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.

      *** Truman was one of the worst president's in US history, (right up there with Bush II). Under Truman, the National Security state was implemented and we lost our constitutional Republic. Besides being a bigot and a racist, he was paranoid and that was reflected in how he began our slow march towards being a totalitarian police state.

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      John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. I think history might show Eisenhower committed the troops and Kennedy was honoring that commitment.

      *** Make sure you get you history right. Kennedy was about to pull our troops out of Vietnam before he was assassinated. During his time, the US were 'advisers' in Vietnam. The main conflict was started by the phony Ggulf of Tonkin incident under Johnson. BTW, Johnson, (an out and out criminal and murderer, who had a hand in the Kennedy assassination) was probably in the top three or four worst presidents.

      QUOTE:
      Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

      *** And, if Kerry gets in, watch him turn Iraq into an extended Vietnam just like the lying, crook Nixon did when he took over from Johnson. And speaking of Nixon and his secret state, his crimes are too long to list here. Don't forget the boob, Regan, whose presidency was riddled with secret arms deals and other crimes, and was probably the only president that had forgotten how to tie his shoes before he left office.

      QUOTE:
      Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

      *** Before we get to Clinton, don't forget Bush I and his Black OPs CIA boys that imported drugs, his dirty business dealings with the Saudis and the bin Laden family that made him millions, and his manipulations that suckered a Saddam (who couldn't hold a candle to the deviousness of daddy Bush) into invading Kuwait. The mass murder and war criminal Saddam, was tired of Kuwait and it's US oil partners slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields, however he misread the signals given off by mass murder and war criminal Bush and invaded Kuwait. Just one tyrant screwing another.

      *** Now for Clinton, pick his 'real' crimes, would you? The complicity in the Oklahoma City bombing, cover-up of TWA 800 that was blown up by a stray military missile, the debacle of Waco, the murder of the Admirals, the murder of 'soon to be' whistle blower Commerce Secretary Ron Brown and a whole plane load of business people, the murder of Vince Foster and on and on and on... However, whatever his crimes, the economy was a damn sight better under Clinton.

      QUOTE:
      In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.

      *** No, Bush invaded and is trying to conquer two countries, (and not doing a very good job at that) Bush has not crushed al-Qaida - in fact it is growing and carrying out more terrorist acts. Libya capitulated because of economic sanctions. Iran is still as anti American and potentially dangerous as ever, and if you think we have solved the problem with North Korea, you are a bigger fool that your words here indicate (although it's hard to see how..)



      QUOTE:
      Worst president in history? Come on!

      *** Bush is on the short list. But just give him time and I'm sure he'll become the worst when he finally suspends the constitution, turns America into a full on police state, and leads us into an endless sham war that will increase government power and destroy freedom and liberty in the US forever.

      QUOTE:
      The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...

      It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.

      *** Great comparison here. However, the only similarity I see is that Waco and the war in Iraq were both illegal government operations spearheaded by administration liars and criminals.

      QUOTE:
      We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

      * The WMD are being planted even as we speak, to be sprung just before the election, so we won't have long to wait now.

      QUOTE:
      It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

      * Kennedy might be an old fat drunken pontificating fool, be even HE can see the futility of Iraq and the idiocy of the Bush administration. It just shows how sad a state America has fallen when a burn out like Kennedy has to point out the obvious truth.

      QUOTE:
      It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!

      * We still haven't taken Iraq! And that was 'steal' the election in Florida, BTW...

      ;-)


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