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  • R2R I would love to see your notes on reincarnation /30 by klyd   9 year  521  Christianity Debate
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                      As promised klyd and bless your heart with YOUR love for yourself and LOVE for ALL that walk this beautiful world.
                      This is written with only love that comes from my heart, so you have a choice to reject it, to think nasty, unkind thoughts of me or your heart can choose the LOVE it holds and waits for you and you only to give to the people of the world.
                      You may also choose to listen to what I have to say or to HEAR what it is I am saying. I am also asking you NOT to follow or to believe in what I write, just to hear me out as I have done with you.
                      What I write comes from a book I have written with the title ?Open Your Heart?Seek Love?© (Unpublished for now)
                      Can you not see, YOU are the creator, EVERYTHING you have done in your life has been created by YOU and you alone. You choose to create beauty and love all around you or you choose to continue the creations that religions create for you, then in turn you ask all to follow YOUR thoughts, or else.
                      Do you not see that religions have been a burden and continue to be a curse to the people of the world and yet mankind eagerly wishes to pursue it for whatever reason, and I do believe he has many, many reasons, one or two being, greed, control and just plain laziness to think for herself/himself, so he goes along with whatever is told him.
                      I will never follow the words of the bible (Or any religions) again, only because I have in my lifetime of 68 years seen how it has divided the people of the world and has also caused the sorrow and misery to the weak and frail.
                      I respect your thoughts and your journey, though blind to your heart and the love you hold there.
                      Let me state some of ?YOUR? gods words, He/She did not write them. A person calling himself a man did but people are brainwashed to believe some god did.
                      One quote from the bible ?May her belly rot and her legs turn to gangrene.?
                      Another: This is an angel talking to Zachariah. This angel had to have something hanging between his legs.
                      Quote: Then the angel came forward and said to me, "Lift your eyes, and see the large basket that goes forth." So I lifted my eyes, and behold, the leaden cover of the basket was raised, and there was a woman sitting inside! "This is Wickedness," the angel said. And HE pushed her back into the basket, and thrust down the leaden cover. This angel which must have had something hanging between its legs goes on to say. That anyone who wages war on Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they are still on their feet, their eyes shall rot in their sockets, their tongues in their mouths.
                      Nice loving stuff, don?t you think?
                      No wonder the murders go on and on, year after year, century after century in Jerusalem. How blind can people be to loving one another dishing so much hatred? Why not choose a path of LOVE instead? Their eyes must be rotted and that is why they can not open them to love.
                      In the bible, it is written in the Old Testament and written by the prophet and priest Ezekiel. (I do not think God told him these things but we are made to believe he did.) "Thus says the lord; And you shall bake your bread in the peoples sight on human dung, (s--t, dung, whatever) And for those that he favours he will let them bake bread on cow dung. Wherefore as I live, says the lord god of the bible.?
                      Now I ask you to think about this, and I mean really think about what it is god is supposed to have said. Ask yourself what kind of twisted mind this god with so much hate for mankind would ask YOU to do the following and I quote.
                      Fathers shall eat their sons in the midst of you, and sons shall eat their fathers. I (god) will cut (murder) you down; my eye will not spare. Thus shall my anger spend itself; and they shall know that I the Lord have spoken in my jealousy. "Go through Jerusalem, and put a mark upon the foreheads of the men who sigh and groan over all abominations that are committed in it. (Here we are to believe that, murdering and eating your sons and your father is not an abomination.) (You would have to be kidding me god.)?To the others. (We are made to believe here are the holy ones or the chosen ones) He said. "Pass through the city after him, smite: (meaning god is telling people to commit murder) your eye shall not spare, and you shall show no pity; (get this) slay (murder) old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women, but touch no one upon whom is the mark. End of quote.
                      Wow, does that make you feel good klyd?
                      Just think, god?s word, if followed to the tee, will have you murdering me and eating me and my children on fires of s..t or dung.
                      Can you NOT see the destruction this causes to people and their minds. Don?t you see the hate it tries to fill our hearts with for our fellow man? Can you not see that you are calling YOUR god a murder? I do hope the bible is not referring to me.
                      I will stick to my god/goddess, the one whose heart is full of love for us all and whose heart is LOVE. And by the way, She/He has placed Her love in your heart to see what you can do with it the moment you care to go looking for it and find it. Then YOU can show YOUR god and His/Her love to all of us that walk this beautiful earth.
                      Why do people follow a god that asks you to such harm to others? Why do you klyd? Why does any woman follow this god or yours that runs down, hates and curses women making them out to be ugly and unclean throughout the bible.
                      If I wrote a bible it would only have one page (think of the trees that would be saved) to it and the words I would use would be the words from the song Imagine, which, by the way; was voted the song of the last century. Try to hear what those words are telling you and then see if you can possibly follow them.
                      For there to be a change, YOU have to be that change.
                      Books I think you might like to read. Conversations with God, book one, and The Bible Fraud. Try and do some research on religions and how they destroy anything to do with love for your fellow man and put fear into you, then make up your own mind to how YOU would like to create YOUR reality. And if you should still want to think Krist Jesus, a rabbi, which meant he had a wife of two and a slave he sold to another because he was a good carpenter, and he was black, (I have NOTHING against anyone with a different coloured skin I love ALL people) and the killings and unrest around the so-called birth place still goes on. When will everyone decide to choose a pathway of love and peace instead of trying to prove they are right and the rest of us will burn in an imaginary hell they themselves have imagined?
                      Take care, walk softly, be gentle and loving to yourself and to all others.
                      Choose wisely and let us all feel the love you have in YOUR heart.
                      Love to you all from my heart,
                      Jonathan Lord.
                      See, you have been led to the Lord after all. SMILE, for god sake smile. It?s all in a name. I see the Lord every day in the mirror; I also live with him every day and I know him to be nothing like you make him out to be. I wouldn?t even have thought of such nasty things to say to you, let alone ask that you should go out and do them and commit murder.
                      And this may come as a shock to you. Every soul that walks this planet has been created by a beautiful WOMAN. ?THEIR MOTHER? and man has this illusion that god is a man. How wrong can man be?
                      Love to you ALL.
                      Amazing grace, how sweet Thou art, to save a wretch like me.
                      I once was lost but now Im found, was blind but now can see

                      Sad you should think of yourself as a wretch. You are love, you are unique and you are special. You seem to be blinded by your tears feeling sorry for yourself, that is fine with me but try to pick yourself up and lift your head up high and stand tall knowing you are the greatest and not a wretch that the bible has convinced you, you are. Always remember YOU are the creator of YOUR life. You own YOU and you could be a FREE spirit giving your love to all without being told what to do by religious groups whenever you choose to, don?t let anyone take that away from you. Don?t ever think you are wretched if you choose not to be controlled by some church.
                      Love Jonathan.

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