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  • Medical Grade Ozone Generator? (R rated for whole thread)   R by Rick67   7 year  11,610  Oxygen
    • Re: Medical Grade Ozone Generator?   R by rog   7 year  12,006
    • Medical Grade Ozone / updated by ikota   7 year  12,039   1
      • Re: Medical Grade Ozone Generator? by rog   7 year  11,636
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        • Re: Medical Grade Ozone Generator?    R by ikota   7 year  11,551
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          Re: Medical Grade Ozone Generator?
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          Date: 9/25/2006 9:47:53 PM   ( 7 year ago )
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          Here is the brief answer,
          followed by a longer answer:

          From the info we got from John:

          1. The knob is completely uncalibrated
          2. It appears to throttle to about 3/4 output
          when the knob is at the halfway position
          3. The output when fully throttled open is (either):
          3.1. 180 gamma, or
          3.2. 450 ml/hour
          (both of which are imprecise figures)

          The regulator is a problem with this unit.
          We asked John about that, because we needed
          to obtain a flow rate for the German protocol
          for rectal sufflation, outlined at
          http://www.gracermedicalgroup.com/resources/page_11.php

          John basically didn't know how the regulator
          worked for sure, except for full-open, where it gives
          180 gamma (abbrev ug=micrograms). As you say, he is not technically savvy.
          We needed to know the *concentration*, which is measured
          in ug/ml (micrograms per milliliter).

          Flow of oxygen is controlled by a regulator,
          usually in increments like 1/8 LPM. You set the
          regulator to send oxygen through the unit
          at a certain rate (volume/time). Then, all you
          need to know is the generator's concentration
          at that rate, or at some rate (and convert).

          The problem I face is that the goal is of course a *ratio*,
          and depends on the concentration at a certain flow rate.
          In other words, if you're filling a bag with
          125 ml of ozone/oxygen,
          the final concentration will depend on two factors :
          1. the flow rate of oxygen through the generator
          (i.e., if it goes through faster, there will be
          less concentration)
          2. the concentration produced (at a certain flow rate).
          Notice that this in itself should be expressed as
          a ratio. The problem I faced is that I couldn't get a
          figure for the Synergy unit, except the advertised
          450ml/h = 450 ml per hour.
          Even the Gracer site (quoted below) gives the
          concentration as an ambiguous figure - at least from
          my point of view. The measurement should not read,
          micrograms per millilitre, but rather
          micrograms per millilitre per minute.

          Here is the excerpt from the Gracer site :
          <<
          Volume and Concentration

          It is essential that the home user be familiar with these two terms in order to perform this therapy correctly. Fully understanding the procedure and one's ozone generator is essential.

          Concentration - While it is true that each ozone generator produces ozone, the gas coming from the generator is a mixture of oxygen and ozone. The amount of ozone in this mixture is called the "concentration" and the units used to denote this concentration are ug/ml or Micrograms per milliliter.

          Do you know the concentration your ozone generator is producing? It is essential that you know the concentration of gas you are using. This can not be emphasized enough. Too little you will see no effect, too much and you may suppress your immune system, and cause irritation, swelling, or intestinal spasms.

          The concentration usually chosen for therapeutic effect from rectal insufflation is between 27 - 35ug/ml. This concentration may be higher for treating colitis, bacterial, or parasitic infections, but for the average home user hoping to obtain the "general" benefits of using ozone, the literature notes 27ug/ml - 35ug/ml as ideal.
          >>

          At this point, since we have suspended our efforts at
          using sufflation, we have no answer to this problem
          that could be said to be definitive.
          But it's a great question, and needs to be answered.

          As for your question, here is the info we got from John:

          1. The knob is completely uncalibrated
          2. It appears to throttle to about 3/4 output
          when the knob is at the halfway position
          3. The output when fully throttled open is (either):
          3.1. 180 gamma, or
          3.2. 450 ml/hour
          (both of which are imprecise figures)

          That's where we are at, personally.


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