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  • Modern Medicine versus Nature in Treating Cancer   BSA by Tony Isaacs   6 year  13,168   4  Ask Tony: Cancer / Breast Can / Cancer Sup
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      • An agency for natural alternatives? by Tony Isaacs   6 year  6,021
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                No, I do not think that doctors and scientists are responsible for the atrocities of WW II and I never said that. By and large, doctors and scientists are well meaning and hard working individuals. They are limited by what they are taught and not taught, and subject to influence by money and power, as most are. In their case, the money and power comes from the World Pharma empire, as well as the AMA, FDA, etc. - none of whom are fans of natural competition that is safer, more effective and less expensive in many instances.

                What I said is that the World Pharma industry is one with a history of crime, greed and corruption. In WWII, as now, the majority of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies were located in Germany. The IG Farben cartel was formed to control the world drug trade shortly after 1900 and one of it's goals was to replace natural medicines and remedies with ones made in their labs. Much of what happened was indeed a result of the greed and corruption of the IG Farben cartel.

                Be sick all you want, but do not ignore history! IG Farben played a huge role in putting Adolph Hitler in power and enjoyed tremendous power and influence during the Third Reich. And committed incredible atrocities.

                Take a look at this article excerpt from the Rath Foundation site:

                The IG Farben - Cartel

                The most powerful German corporate imperium in the first half of this century was IG Farben, short for Interessengemeinschaft Farben. Interessengemeinschaft stands for association of common interests and was a powerful cartel of BASF, Bayer, Hoechst, and other chemical and pharmaceutical German companies. The IG Farben was the single largest donor to the election campaign of Adolf Hitler.

                One year before Hitler seized power in 1933, IG Farben donated 400,000 marks to Hitler and his Nazi party. Accordingly, when the Nazis came into power the IG Farben was the single largest profiteer of the Second World War and of the plundering of Europe by the Nazis. One hundred percent of all explosives and synthetic gasoline came from the factories of the IG Farben. Whenever the German Wehrmacht conquered another country, Bayer, Hoechst and BASF executives followed, systematically taking over the industries of these countries. Through this close collaboration with Hitler’s Wehrmacht, IG Farben participated in the plunder of Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Norway, Holland, Belgium, France and all other countries occupied by the Nazis. In 1946, the U.S. government investigation concluded that without the IG Farben the Second World War would simply not have been possible. We have to realize that it was not a psychopath named Adof Hitler, nor the innate character of the German people that brought about the Second World War. Economic greed by companies like Bayer, BASF and Hoechst was the key factor in bringing about the Holocaust.

                No one who saw Steven Spielberg’s film “Schindler’s List” will forget the scenes in the concentration camp Auschwitz. Auschwitz was the largest mass extinction factory in human history, but the concentration camp was only the appendix. The main project was IG Auschwitz, a 100% subsidiary of IG Farben, the world’s largest industrial complex for manufacturing synthetic gasoline and rubber for the conquest of Europe. On March 1st, 1941, Heinrich Himmler, the Reichsführer of the SS, inspected the construction site. On April 14th, 1941 Otto Ambros, the IG Farben board member responsible for the Auschwitz project, rose to his IG Farben board colleagues in Ludwigshafen and stated, “our new friendship with the SS is a blessing. We have determined all measures integrating the concentration camps to benefit our company.” The pharmaceutical departments of the IG Farben cartel used the victims of the concentration camp in their own way: thousands of them died during human experiments such as the testing of new and unknown vaccines.

                There was no retirement plan for the prisoners of the IG Auschwitz. Those too weak or too sick to work were selected at the main gate of the IG Auschwitz factory and sent to the gas chambers. Even the chemical gas Zyklon-B, used for the annihilation of millions of people, came from the drawing boards and factories of the IG Farben.

                The Nuremberg War Criminal Tribunal convicted 24 IG Farben board members and executives for mass murder, slavery and other crimes against humanity. Amazingly however, by 1951 all of them had been released and were working for German Corporations again.

                The Nuremberg Tribunal divided the IG Farben into Bayer, Hoechst, and BASF. Today each of the three daughters of the IG Farben is 20 times as big as the IG Farben mother was at its height in 1944, the last year of the Second World War. More importantly, the chairmen of the boards, the highest positions in BASF, Bayer and Hoechst, were occupied by former members of the Nazi-Party for almost three decades after the Second World War.

                * Carl Wurster, chairman of the board of BASF until 1974, was on the board of manufacturers of Zyklon-B gas during the war.
                * Carl Winnacker, chairman of the board of Hoechst until the late 70’s was a member of the Sturm Abteilung (SA) and was a member of the IG Farben board.
                * Curt Hansen, chairman of the board of Bayer until the late 70’s, was co-organizer of the conquest of Europe in the department of “acquisition of natural resources.” Under this leadership the IG Farben daughters, BASF, Bayer, and Hoechst, continued to support politicians representing their interests. During the 1950’s and 60’s they invested in the political career of a young representative from a suburb of the BASF town of Ludwigshafen: Helmut Kohl. From 1957 to 1967 the young Helmut Kohl was a paid lobbyist of the Verband Chemischen Industrie, the central lobby organization of the German pharmaceutical and chemical cartel . . . .

                If you would like to know more, take a look at these sites:

                Auschwitz:60 Year Anniversary-- the Role of IG Farben-Bayer

                http://www.ahrp.org/infomail/05/01/27a.php


                CHAPTER TWO: The Empire of I.G. Farben
                reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_02.htm

                Information and Technology in the Holocaust

                http://www.iath.virginia.edu/holocaust/infotech.html


                Medical Murder

                http://www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/rz3a035/psychiatry.html


                or just do a Google search on IG Farben role in Nazi Germany.

                The people who run today's World Pharma empire are not ex-nazi's. But many of them are the successors of ex-Nazis. That is not conjecture or opinion, it is proven historical fact.

                I don't know about you - but I have read an awful lot of posts in this forum and I have not found it "full of people selling worthless cures". I have found it full of well meaning people trying to help others, and perhaps sprinkled with a very small number of people with questionable motives. Perhaps you have some examples?

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