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- People of European descent are evolving fast, and not for the better.
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... ... Interesting (as in defective) conditions for people of European descent who’s ... genes have been mutating rapidly. ... ... http://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/28/15518402-study-shows-surge-of-bad-disease-genes-in-europeans?lite ... ... ... Study shows surge of bad disease genes in Europeans ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... By Maggie Fox, NBC News ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... A scan of all the mutations in the human gene map shows something surprising ... – people of European descent are evolving fast, and not for the better. ... ... The study finds that in the past 5,000 ...
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- Bible stories to be interpreted literally??
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by heavenandhellth
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OK, this seems so profoundly self-evident that it shouldn’t need posting, but the utter confounding nature of religion and the irrationality that is associated with it, makes this needed unfortunately. ... ... For those whose ”faith” depends on bible stories to be interpreted literally, I will pose a question to you related to the story of Noah’s Ark. ... ... Now, those that believe in a literal 6 day creation also tend to believe that all of the bible stories literally happened (as written) and any mention of hyperbole, metaphor, myth, symbol, allegory, fable, folktales, etc, is anathema to fundame ...
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 Re: Wrong forum
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by MatrixMaven
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HA! You got me! and it fits very well in this thread which began on a very ”annoying” note! Each time is more and more annoying, again and again and again and again and again....orange has nothing on monkeyman. ... ... [Video Embedded Here] [End]
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 Re: Dinosaurs dated at thousands, not millions of years old
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by supersport
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66379 said, ”If this stuff were true, every publication in the world would do a story on it.” ... ... You obviously have no idea how political the science world is. They go hand-in-hand with the corrupt media...they’re like bed-buddies. Why didn’t we get the story of the following soft tissue on the ten oclock news? This is some pretty shocking evidence against dinosaurs being millions of years old -- yet we heard nothing but silence from the media. ... ... ... ... ... or this almost fully-intact dinosaur -- complete with skin, muscles and tendons attached? ... ... ... ... ... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/72856 ... [Image Embedded Here]
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- It's great to question the theories but
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by #21277
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Focus on disproving a theory like evolution does not automatically prove another theory right (for example creationism). It should take more than early dismissal of new theories to prove a long standing theory right. ... ... It seems that whatever new theory comes along it has to be proved scientifically(evolutionists & creationists alike), even when science and scientific method itself is still ”evolving”, but when looking at the roots of long standing theories the same proof protocol does not seem to apply. There’s seems to be a need for a “default theory” – and some form of creationism seems ...
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- Re: Sleight-of-Hand with the fossil record [updated]
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by John Cullison
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One source for the article is here -- important if you actually want to be able to see the figures mentioned in the text. Plus, the article is much longer than the portion supersport included, and references and notations are included by following the link. ... ... The full article makes an excellent case against evolution, far (far, far) better than my feeble attempts to criticize the fossil record have done.
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- Re: Supersports God
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by #59245
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My dear, isn’t the serious SS the humorous SS, or did I miss something all those months we spent together? ... ... I actually moved onto the support side of life here, and it’s a big relief. ... ... I had many a day and night of butt clenching reading your posts, and I had to go to the bowel cleansing forum to get some help. ... ... I also think I herniated myself laughing at some of the stuff you wrote, and went to the yoga forum to learn how to correct it. ... ... I also had to go to the dental forum, because I found myself grinding my teeth after spending time with you late into the night. ... ... I found mysel ...
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- Re: Whats with the Rs in a debate forum?
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by stridar
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Not long after (or just before... at around the time of...) the forums were split amongst .org and .com, Webmaster reinstated the ability of moderators to give R’s to posts in debate forums. He described the change in one or another of these forums, but I’m too lazy to go figure out where it was.
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- Re: Whats with the Rs in a debate forum?
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by John Cullison
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Not long after (or just before... at around the time of...) the forums were split amongst .org and .com, Webmaster reinstated the ability of moderators to give R’s to posts in debate forums. He described the change in one or another of these forums, but I’m too lazy to go figure out where it was.
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- Re: Whats with the Rs in a debate forum?
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by Lapis
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Isnt that just a biased opinion from a moderator! [End]
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- Whats with the Rs in a debate forum?
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by stridar
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Isnt that just a biased opinion from a moderator! [End]
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- --Moral of the story--
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by moreless
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Hi Golfegg, ... ... I really enjoyed your post, even liked your more or less sentence! ... ... So is there any moral to the story? ... ... Could it be that people are going to believe what ever they may choose to believe? ... ... Does this make them right or wrong? ... ... Does this belief which someone may choose to believe, change the Facts in any way? ... ... Could it be that it may be more ”IMPORTANT” to learn how to live a Life of Happiness and Harmony with our Fellow man, than to learn some of these mysteries of the universe? ... ... Could it be that ”IF” we are having any problems,which we are unable to solve in our ...
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- Something Unseen Pulls The Strings Of The Cosmos
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by golfegg
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Most Of Our Universe Is Missing (From the Science Channel 6/13/06) ... ... Over the past 40 years some of the world’s best minds have tackled a big VERY big problem. According to their calculations, 96% of the universe is missing. Something you can’t see can’t really define, and definitely don’t understand controls the universe. And if the numbers are right, we’re even smaller than we thought. ... Atoms are extremely versatile things. In various configurations, they make up everything we see, smell, taste and feel, including our bodies, our coffee, & even our tennis rackets. Everything around us i ...
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- Evolution
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by golfegg
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I don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to present evidence for evolution Corinthian? I’ll help you out I guess, since you seem so evidence challanged. Here’s a good starting point. Let’s see what they say! ... Holes in the Theory ... The theory of evolution is just that -- a theory. According to "The American Heritage Dictionary," a theory is: A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomen ...
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- Re: Facts about the Ark
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by #59245
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Problems with a Global Flood ... ... Second Edition ... ... http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html ... ... by Mark Isaak ... Copyright © 1998 ... ... [Last Update: November 16, 1998] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... Other Links: Problems with a Global Flood? Jonathan Sarfati of Answers in Genesis provides a rebuttal for this article for the True.Origins Archive . More Nonsense on "True.Origins" Kevin Henke gives a response to Sarfati at Greene’s Creationism Truth Filter The Miracle of Noah’s Ark "Arkeologist" Ron Wyatt claims to have discover ... [Image Embedded Here]
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- A Lack of Understanding
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by #59245
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Most people don’t really understand evolution. It’s understandable; how many people understand the science behind computers? How many people can explain the process by which the words I’m typing here end up being read by other people in different parts of the country, or the world? There’s a reason why physicists, computer technicians, engineers and other highly-trained individuals ARE highly-trained: before you can work in those fields, you have to understand the science behind your profession. It’s not a conspiracy to keep people stupid, or to keep facts hidden from the general publ ...
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- Why Creationists don't 'get' evolution
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by #28913
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You don’t get it because you don’t want to get it. Just like any religious zealot (I would not hesitate to compare a fundamentalist Christian to a fundamentalist Muslim) it does not matter what is presented, there will always be some ’faith based’ excuse to get you out of it. ... ... I have to confess, I really enjoy reading the rebuttals to these posts. ... ... But for those in here who legitimately have not been able to get a good exposure to ideas (ignorant family life, overbearing church, lack of education, etc…) and would like to make a decision based on facts, here’s a few. ... ... What is evoluti ...
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- Re: I never had a problem with evolution
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by golfegg
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There can be a middle ground, and I believe there is. How do you know you aren’t ”believing the deceivers?” Remember what Jesus said, a house divided cannot stand. This person is a believer. Don’t condemn a person’s soul, or your soul risks such a fate. ... That stuff you just said is what turns a lot of people away from God. It isn’t from God. God created a universe where anything is possible didn’t he? (hint: yes) Did Jesus say anything is possible except evolution? (hint: no) He took the thief next to him into Heaven THAT DAY because the thief believed Jesus was going to Heaven and wanted ...
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- A quick background to the last ice age
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by LCD
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Back to new maps page ... ... ... ... A quick background to the last ice age ... ... Reprinted from: ... ... http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/nerc130k.html ... ... ... The time span of the last 130,000 years has seen the global climate system switch from warm interglacial to cold glacial conditions, and back again. This broad interglacial-glacial-interglacial climate oscillation has been recurring on a similar periodicity for about the last 900,000 years, though each individual cycle has had its own idiosyncrasies in terms of the timing and magnitude of changes. As is usually the case with the study of ...
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- Re: *edited* Re: trying to understand
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by Quinthius
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Apparently you didn’t actually read the posts of mine that you responded to... ... ... Evolution is not mutually exclusive with creationism (when I speak of creationism I refer to the idea of ”God” creating the whole universe ... not the Adam & Eve thing). ... ... ”Evolution” is all around you. What is evolution really? It is growth, expansion, adaptation. You go through many stages of evolution in your own lifetime! The evolution we usually talk about, is no different than your own personal stages of life, except on a larger, ”collective” scale that takes longer to manifest more dramatic changes. ... ...
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- Re: The big bang theory is based on solid science
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by Quinthius
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What’s so unbelievable about life developing on only one out of 9 planets? 9 isn’t a very big number! ... Consider the extraordinary number of planets out there, and 9 is nothing! ... ... Life isn’t going to develop on every single planet, just as here on our own planet life (or at least, life beyond the most basic stages) does not develop in every single environment. There are conditions that must be met. ... ... Using our own solar system as an example of the entire universe is ”bad”. It’s like, looking at a volcano and using it as an example of how life must be on the entire planet. It may be th ...
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- The Evolution of the Sun (from astro.cornell.edu)
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by LCD
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The Evolution of the Sun ... ... ... ... http://astrosun2.astro.cornell.edu/academics/courses//astro201/evol_sun.htm ... ... ... A cloud of gas and dust begins to contract under the force of gravity. In ... regions of ... ... star birth, we find gaseous nebulae and molecular clouds. These sites of ... pre-birth are dark patches called globules. ... ... The protosun collapsed. As it did, its temperature rose to about 150,000 ... degrees and the sun appeared very red. Its radius was about 50 present solar ... radii. ... ... When the central temperature reaches 10 million degrees, nuclear burning ... of hydrogen into helium commen ... [Image Embedded Here]
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- Re: Geologists, Astrometrists,... not evolutionists
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by LCD
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There are many branches of science that come together when trying to figure out the age of planet Earth and ages of other parts of solar system and galaxies. ... ... ... It is a job for Geologists, Vulcanologists, Astrometrists, Astrophysicists, Geophysicists, Nuclear Scientisists, Chemists, Physicists, ... and many others. ... ... ... ... One educative article: ... ... http://wrgis.wr.usgs.gov/docs/parks/gtime/ageofearth.html ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... The Age of the Earth ... ... How do we know the Age of the Earth? ... ... Radiometric dating ... ... Adapted from The Age of the Earth , by the Branch of Isotope Geolog ...
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- You Could Both Be Right
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by finallyfaith
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the idea that creationism and evolution are at odds is not necessarily true. Genesis one lays out the creation of the world in a specific order - the formation of stars (light) the formation of the separate planets and the orbital relationship those planets had (night and day) then the formation of land masses and seas, then plants, then animals then man. this is exactly the order in which science says the universe and the planet evolved. where is the disagreement? ... ... then we have adam. it is entirely possible that apes and other animals evolved over long periods of time, and that at some ...
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