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Expanded All Messages [198] Posted by dreamr, Sorted by Date Source: Mosaic: Messages Across All CureZone Forums & Blogs

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Re: Angioedema while fasting by dreamr 21 mon 1,064 Fasting: Water Only

Unfortunately, the swelling spread to inside my throat and I had to break the fast so I could take some Benedryl. The swelling had been spreading to my upper lip and farther along my jaw and neck also, although the bottom lip had been going down. ... ... I first broke the fast with an orange so the pills wouldn’t be a shock, then I took 2. I usually have to take 4 for it to do anything but I thought I might need less since I fasted. A few minutes later, I realized there would be leftovers from dinner, so I couldn’t help but join my family and have some cooked broccoli, half of a corn cob, an ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Angioedema while fasting by dreamr 21 mon 932 Fasting: Water Only

Thank you for your response, it makes sense that it’s the toxins. ... ... I realize that tasting the food is conterproductive, but right now cooking for my family is more important than my fast. I hadn’t even tasted any when the recent swelling began. I only do it when I am trying something new. ... ... I’ve had this swelling issue for years, even when my diet was clean, so I do hope that the fast will take care of the problem. ... ... Thanks again! ... ... Wendy [End]

Angioedema while fasting

by dreamr 21 mon 1,042 Fasting: Water Only

I’ve been away for quite a long time (I’ve lurked off and on), but am posting now because I can’t find the answer to my question online. ... ... A couple of years ago I took an antibiotic called Erythromycen, and my lips swelled up, so I stopped taking it. Ever since then, I’ve had random swellings in my lips, chin, wrists and palms, bottom of feet, and most commonly, my tongue. Sometimes it won’t happen for months, and sometimes it will happen several times a month. The tongue is mainly what swells (it never spreads to my throat so I don’t bother going to the ER), but the other parts have o ... [retrieve this message]

No problem :) n/m by dreamr 5 year 1,006 Exercise

No problem :) n/m [End]

Re: Today's workout by dreamr 5 year 1,137 Exercise

The cardio and toning videos I’m using now are the ones that come with the TransFIRMer step, made by The Firm. I bought the set from Buy.com where it was the cheapest I could find it, and right now they are even offering free shipping, which they didn’t have when I bought mine (I’d post a link but I’m not sure if I’m allowed to). Dumbells are used in the videos, but you have to buy those separately. ... ... The step is cool, it has 2 parts and can be used at 6”, 8”, or 14”, plus it can be used as a slanted step as well. When it’s at 14” it’s really hard to step up on if you aren’t used to it ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Today's workout by dreamr 5 year 1,172 Exercise

That’s a good idea to do it in segments. My cardio video is broken up into segments where some are harder than others, and there is even variety in difficulty of the moves themselves, so that after bursts of difficult moves there are breaks with easier moves in between. You might have already seen my schedule, but here it is again after I revised it a little: ... ... Mon- 45 min cardio/8 min abs/30 min toning ... Tues- 45 min cardio/30 min yoga ... Wed- 45 min cardio/8 min abs/50 min pilates ... Thur- 45 min cardio/30 min yoga ... Fri- 55 min cardio and toning combined ... Sat and Sun- rest ... ... Videos have a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Thanks Wendy (again) by dreamr 5 year 1,286 Christianity Debate

You’re welcome, I’m glad to be of help. :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: New workout by dreamr 5 year 1,071 Exercise

Hi Willow, ... ... Yes it sure would be nice if it came off that fast. I have no problem gaining weight quickly, lol. ... ... That’s great that you started exercising, just keep telling yourself that it won’t be long before you don’t have to push yourself so hard to get started. I’ve slept in the last few days, which has made it a little harder to get going because I’m not used to doing it later in the day, but as soon as I think about how good it will feel when I have buckets of sweat pouring down my face, I’m ready to go. I know, crazy right? ... ... I’m starting to wish I had taken some measurement ... [retrieve this message]

Re: New workout by dreamr 5 year 1,053 Exercise

My midsection is always the hardest part for me to lose also. Especially after having kids, which caused the skin of my lower belly to remain stretched out. The weight you typically lose first is wherever it accumulated last, and the face is usually one of the last places to gain weight. I have always had a chubby chin, I have to get rid of virtually all of my excess fat for it to go away. ... ... It’s hard for me to eat less calories too. Even though I eat mostly healthy foods I still eat a lot. I don’t want to force myself to eat less though, so hopefully I will naturally crave less as I ... [retrieve this message]

Re: New workout by dreamr 5 year 1,120 Exercise

I think an exercise plan is better for losing weight for those of us who have some difficulty fasting. (Mouseclick makes it look so easy!) Did you lose the 10 pounds just since you started exercising? If so, great job! ... ... I started doing workout videos over a month ago and I’ve only lost a couple of pounds, but I do a lot of exercises that build muscles so I don’t really know how much fat I’ve lost. My fiance told me the other day that he can tell I lost some chin fat. I can’t tell, so it was nice to hear, lol. ... ... It sounds like you have a good plan of working your way up to faster wa ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Thanks Wendy (EDIT) by dreamr 5 year 1,161 Christianity Debate

That’s ridiculous that they preached about hellfire at a funeral! The Baptist church I went to was, for all practical purposes, non-denominational. The property was owned by Baptists but I think even some of the members didn’t realize it was a Baptist church. Then, when they had financial trouble, they merged with the Baptist church that owned the property, and things changed. Mostly for the better, but I found out that one of the Sundays that I didn’t go, they preached about hell, and something about a weird prison where the wicked were waiting (consciously) until judgement when they ... [retrieve this message]

Re: My "Experiment" by dreamr 5 year 1,147 Fasting: Water

Aw man, you guys are making me feel bad, no fair! I don’t want to be one who says I’m leaving and then never leaves, but you guys make it hard! I do need a break, and like I said in the other forum, was already trying to take one. See how that turned out, lol. I have to step back for at least a little while, but I won’t be far. ;) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: My "Experiment" by dreamr 5 year 1,229 Fasting: Water

Don’t worry, it had nothing to do with what you said, and everything to do with the debate going on further down in the forum, combined with previous ”happenings”. You haven’t offended me, and it’s very kind of you to apologize in case you had. ... ... I can’t speak for mouseclick, but I am pretty sure he used the term ”experiment” as a joke, and not the real reason he ate those foods. It hadn’t even crossed my mind that he wasn’t kidding. I could be wrong though. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: My "Experiment" by dreamr 5 year 1,265 Fasting: Water

Why thank you Donn, I wasn’t expecting that response at all! I didn’t think I contributed much, other than jumping in on a few debates. This forum will be fine without me, and I spend too much time on here anyway. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: My "Experiment" R by dreamr 5 year 1,400 Fasting: Water

I agree, I thought it was obvious why it was given an R. I have not seen anyone try harder to offer their best support than chrisb1 and mouseclick in all the time I’ve been here, and it’s a shame that people want to pick at them just because... well, I don’t know why they do it. ... ... People giving advice on CureZone? God forbid! Let’s all just sit back and watch people make stupid mistakes and say, ”It’s not my concern, I’m not a medical professional.” Wanna fast? Sure! We don’t care why, we don’t care how long, we don’t care if your body can’t handle it, ’cause it’s none of our busine ... [retrieve this message]

Re: sda by dreamr 5 year 1,190 Christianity Debate

I want to add that in no way is the SDA church a cult, no matter what some people will have you believe. The things I disagree with are minor, and I still think it is the church with the most truth, which is why I want to go back. Every denomination has members that have fallen from grace, and you cannot use those people to measure the rest. Most importantly, do not believe everything the world tells you, because people will twist the facts and deceive you. ... ... John 15:18,19 ... ”If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as ... [retrieve this message]

Re: My "Experiment" by dreamr 5 year 1,368 Fasting: Water

Not to promote junk food here, but exercise does work wonders to counter bad eating. I eat Taco Bell sometimes when I don’t have time to make dinner, and my weight stays the same as when I eat healthier food at home. It’s probably slowing down the weight loss a little, but I don’t gain any weight. ... ... We all need to be able to splurge every once in a while, exercising just enables you to do it more often. :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: sda by dreamr 5 year 1,186 Christianity Debate

I backslid for about 10 years, then after coming back to God I tried out a few different churches with a lot of staying at home in between. The church I was going to last was Southern Baptist, but seemed more like a non-denominational church. Luckily, they didn’t touch on the subject of hell while I was there. ... ... It seems that most churches do have some false ideas mixed with truth. One thing I don’t like is how critics label every SDA belief as heresy, specifically the ones I believe in, which have sound Biblical evidence. As far as Ellen White goes, I try to avoid her writings altoge ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Congratulations! by dreamr 5 year 781 Fasting: Water

Experimenting to see how easy the weight goes on? That is so funny! I think I’ll pass on that experiment. ... ... Wendy [End]
Re: Completed 7 days - Ended my fast by dreamr 5 year 749 Fasting: Water

Congratulations, and good luck with the refeeding! :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Lol, I'll give you two guesses by dreamr 5 year 2,625 Fasting Debate

He still has it, never fasted long enough to know if it would heal it or not. His problem is because of his pores in his nose being too small and not allowing it to drain properly, so I’m not sure if fasting can help it. ... ... That’s the problem with fasting with a partner, if one quits, so does the other. Double the participants, double the chance of quitting, lol. ... ... Wendy [End]

Lol, I'll give you two guesses n/m by dreamr 5 year 2,619 Fasting Debate

Lol, I’ll give you two guesses n/m [End]

Re: sda by dreamr 5 year 1,235 Christianity Debate

Lol, I haven’t been to a SDA church in a while, but I remember more than just salad for potluck. The ones I went to served cheese, so they weren’t vegans, but they always brought in vegetarian dishes. I think that there is more acceptance of meat eaters than in the past, and of diversity in general (to an extent). ... ... I was raised a SDA but steered away from them ever since I reached adulthood because of bad experiences with the more rigid members. I plan to start going again, in hopes that I will encounter a more loving environment. There are people that frown on others no matter what ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lol, go get 'em Detective Mouseclick! by dreamr 5 year 2,633 Fasting Debate

Lol, have you been spying on me? Well, I can still tell I broke it, but no one else would be able to if they didn’t know. It’s only a teensy tiny bit off. If I had done a longer fast or even fasted while it was healing I’m sure it would have turned out even better. Thanks for asking! :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Trumpets Indeed! by dreamr 5 year 1,203 Christianity Debate

No, I do not know every law, but I try to keep the ones I do know, including the one about the meats. ... ... Even if the days have been all messed up, I would rather pick what is known today as the seventh day, than randomly pick another with no rhyme or reason. There is no way to prove that the Bible hasn’t been tampered with throughout the generations either, but I still believe it’s infallible. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Slowly but surely by dreamr 5 year 954 Exercise

Hi Willow, ... ... That’s what I’m trying to tell myself too, that my muscles are just getting bigger and keeping the weight up. I ate a lot yesterday and still ended up a pound lighter, so that backs up that idea. I am glad I enjoy the exercise now, I even kinda miss it today. ... ... I did see your post about eating, and I’ve heard that also. I’ve been trying to eat slower for years, but it’s hard, lol. I’m like an eating machine. Salads are my all-time favorite food, especially the way I’ve been making them lately, and as big as they are, I’m still disappointed when they’re gone, lol. Just f ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lol, go get 'em Detective Mouseclick! by dreamr 5 year 2,746 Fasting Debate

I agree, and I wasn’t making fun of what you are doing. I couldn’t help but laugh though because reading your post reminded me of an interrogator, not to mention the background check. Again, a good thing to do, I just find humor in it. :) However, fasting for the wrong reasons is definitely no laughing matter. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Trumpets Indeed! by dreamr 5 year 1,190 Christianity Debate

I don’t think it’s insane to want to keep the Sabbath. Jesus said, ”If you love Me, keep My commandments.” Jesus = God = writer of the ten commandments. [End]

Re: Slowly but surely by dreamr 5 year 935 Exercise

Hi Willow, ... ... I did work my way up to the strenuous exercise, but I guess the last videos I added were pretty advanced for me to still be sore after 3 weeks of prior exercise. My first week I worked out 3 days, only one beginner video a day. The second week I worked out 5 days with 2 beginner videos a day, and the third week worked out 3 days due to Thanksgiving, still with the beginner videos. Other than the first week, I wasn’t sore until last week, when I started the harder videos that include a step and dumbells. Now that I’ve rested today, I’m not sore anymore. ... ... Another theory I ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Trumpets Indeed! by dreamr 5 year 1,197 Christianity Debate

It’s true that a lot of Seventh-Day Adventists are vegetarians, but not all of them, and it’s not actually one of their doctrines. They just say to stay away from the unclean meats. I agree with most of what they teach, although some of them follow Ellen White a little too much. ... ... Wendy [End]

Lol, go get 'em Detective Mouseclick! n/m by dreamr 5 year 2,814 Fasting Debate

Lol, go get ’em Detective Mouseclick! n/m [End]

Re: Slowly but surely by dreamr 5 year 943 Exercise

Hi Willow, ... ... First of all, congratulations on making it through 5 days of fasting! My longest water only fast was 6 days and I had such a hard time getting there. I tend to obsess about food too much when I fast, which is why I eventually stopped trying. I’m not sure if I’m going to stick with fasting one day a week, because the last 3 weeks I didn’t even make it to 24 hours, when my goal was to go a night, day, and another night without eating. ... ... I’ve gained back the 3 pounds I lost, so I guess it was just water weight from my last one day fast. I don’t know if I’m eating more than ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Need Help day 1 by dreamr 5 year 972 Fasting: Weight

In 4 days, most of what you lose will be water weight, which will be gained back after the fast. I wouldn’t expect to be able to lower a dress size in that amount of time. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Is it just me... by dreamr 5 year 1,574 Fasting Debate

I agree, expect that I don’t think length matters, as many scientifically informative posts can be lengthy. If I don’t feel like reading a long post, I don’t read it. To read the whole thing and then complain about having to read it is just absurd. ... ... If no harm is being done, I don’t see why we can’t let some things slide, especially when there are positive things to be gotten from them. It’s ironic that the people who have low tolerance are the same ones that expect everyone else to tolerate everything they do without question. I can tolerate a post about someone’s personal problems ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Is it just me... by dreamr 5 year 1,699 Fasting Debate

I’m glad you did what you did also in regards to the previous poster where safety was involved. I didn’t really care whether or not that person’s post was like a blog, except for the fact that the posts were one-sided since the person didn’t want to hear any advice. ... ... I have seen many people write blog-like posts, but it wasn’t until the recent event that people started getting criticized for doing so. I, for one, enjoy the posts that are more personal, because I learn more about the individual and why they are fasting. In the situation below, I found all of it to be relevant to that p ... [retrieve this message]

Is it just me...

by dreamr 5 year 1,749 Fasting Debate

Or has the water fasting support forum been less about support lately and more about arguing with each other? It seems that people want to draw a line and make everything black and white, but it doesn’t work that way. ... ... If the only things we could talk about on the forum were the symptoms and effects of water fasting, it would be a very boring and discouraging forum indeed. How can you express personality, or share what you are going through physically, mentally, and spiritually if you’re not allowed to talk about anything personal? ... ... The person who had their posts moved was stuck in a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Day 8 of Water fast by dreamr 5 year 1,797 Fasting Debate

For many people, fasting and God are intertwined, so it can very well be relevant. I think Sacristia’s reason for fasting is spiritual, and I can tell from her posts that the fast is helping her to connect with God. For those who are looking for the same thing, it is inspiring. ... ... Wendy [End]

nevermind n/m by dreamr 5 year 316 Diet & Nutrition / Parenting

nevermind n/m [End]

Slowly but surely

by dreamr 5 year 1,003 Exercise

I’m in my 4th week of exercising 5 days a week, and have just added a new set of more advanced workout videos to my routine. I’ve lost about 3 pounds so far, and gained some muscle, although I can’t see the muscles under the fat. I just know that I have more strength now and I seem to be burning more calories throughout the day. Now that I’ve come this far, it’s a lot easier to stick with it because I don’t want all my hard work to go down the drain. ... ... I’m going to exercise now, just wanted to give an update on my progress. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: honest possibilities (mouseclick or anyone with experience)WOW~~ by dreamr 5 year 840 Fasting: Water

Hi, ... ... I had also thought that God was telling me to fast to get over my bad eating habits, but since I was never able to complete a long enough fast, I realized that, if anything, He was showing me that a fast wasn’t the answer. I’m not saying it won’t work for you, but maybe you could tell yourself that if you don’t make it this time, you will try other alternatives, instead of trying over and over. The times that I kept trying to fast, I was usually overeating the day before, and I actually ended up gaining weight. ... ... Since then, I have started exercising 5 days a week (this is my 4th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Day 5 of up and down misery that is this fast by dreamr 5 year 463 Fasting: Water

I understand completely. Glad to see that you decided to keep posting! :) ... ... Wendy [End]
Re: What posts should be allowed by dreamr 5 year 1,796 Fasting Debate

I agree, and also with everything Willow has said. I don’t really have anything else to add. :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day 5 of up and down misery that is this fast by dreamr 5 year 474 Fasting: Water

I’m sorry that you are going through a hard time, and I hope things start looking up for you. Don’t ever think that you are not special enough for someone to stay with you. God knows what’s best for you, so as long as you stay focused on Him, you will be all right. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: mouseclick by dreamr 5 year 226 Fasting: Water

If you are talking about the link to the privacy manager he posted in the webmaster debate forum, I don’t think anyone else can see your name and number, unless they are logged in as you. I see my name and number when I click the link, and my fiance sees his name and number. Hope that helps. :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: I'm done being criticized for caring by dreamr 5 year 1,891 Fasting Debate

I agree about moving on, although I don’t think we should be silent when it comes to posts on this forum, for the sake of the other readers. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: I'm done being criticized for caring by dreamr 5 year 1,867 Fasting Debate

Hi Willow, ... ... I’m glad that you understand what I was trying to say. Your last paragraph sums it up. This isn’t just about Lauray, she has already made her mind up and closed off people like me who disagree with her. This is about the readers who may not know better and might follow her example. Bottom line, her posts are undermining the fact that fasting should be taken seriously. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: What posts should be allowed by dreamr 5 year 1,864 Fasting Debate

I don’t mind if it has to be moved to the debate forum, I hadn’t even thought about posting it there. It wasn’t my intention to start a debate, I just wanted to speak up about a situation that could potentially encourage others to cause harm to themselves and think it’s ok. Like Willow said, it’s not ok. ... ... Anyone who posts in the support forum needs to be prepared for answers they may not like, especially if they are doing something that most people believe is dangerous. People come here to be educated instead of medicated, and if we can’t educate, then what’s the point? Yes, it’s a s ... [retrieve this message]

I'm done being criticized for caring

R by dreamr 5 year 2,274 Fasting Debate

It is true that there have been negative and demeaning responses to Lauray’s posts, but MOST of them have been kind yet warning of a destructive cycle. I have tried to be kind, and I never once called Lauray a name or said anything negative to her. I simply said that I was concerned about her health and didn’t want to encourage the fasting-then-bingeing process (where is the refeeding time in all of this?!). ... ... My problem is that the people who recognize the true danger of what she is doing and are TRYING TO HELP HER, are being shot down for even caring. I’m done with it. It makes me s ... [retrieve this message]

Re: not a health related question? by dreamr 5 year 674 Ask CureZone

Maybe this will help (warning, vulgar language): ... ... ... http://everything2.com/e2node/Mother%2520Hubbard ... ... ... Any other reference I could find said the same thing. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: need good advice(edit) by dreamr 5 year 968 Fasting: Weight

My argument was not about hair loss, it was about fasting and starvation diets being lumped into the same category. I couldn’t care less about little red R’s. I’m sorry if my post seemed like a personal attack. Take care. ... ... Wendy ... ... EDIT: I should have been more clear that I was disagreeing with the statement about ”lack of vitamins, proteins, minerals etc” due to fasting, not the part about hair loss in your first post. [End]

Re: Day 9 of my Water fast - Indigestion - Help by dreamr 5 year 1,649 Fasting: Water

I think a salt water flush during a fast is a very bad idea. Your body is probably absorbing a great amount of the salt. During a water fast, it’s best to only drink water. Good luck! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: This is not the first time I have said something by dreamr 5 year 1,328 Fasting: General

No need to be rude. No positive comments? You haven’t been looking. [End]

Re: need good advice by dreamr 5 year 1,007 Fasting: Weight

Fasting is NOT at all the same thing as diet restriction, or crash dieting, as that article calls it. That is why it is so important to consume nothing but water while on a fast, and to be sure that you have proper nutrient stores beforehand. I really hate it when people think that advocators of fasting are saying it’s ok to starve yourself. IT IS NOT THE SAME THING!! ... ... I’m sorry, but it is very troubling when people do little to no research on how fasting works and then think that it is ok to practice some VERY DANGEROUS methods all in the name of fasting. And then those with knowled ... [retrieve this message]

Re: need good advice by dreamr 5 year 1,021 Fasting: Weight

Your first post implied that you were attributing the hair loss to fasting, not diet restriction. If sweety1984 has been dramatically restricting her diet, then that’s another story, no one should fast afer doing that. If I have to do a background check on everyone who posts I might as well just not respond. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: need good advice by dreamr 5 year 1,023 Fasting: Weight

You are not the only person to experience hair loss during fasting, I’ve read posts of others experiencing the same thing. As far as I know, it stops after the fast is over, and even grows back. ... ... Poster #89337 obviously isn’t familiar with the fasting process. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: success in 66 h fast by dreamr 5 year 703 Fasting: General

Lauray, ... ... I am relieved to hear that you are not taking it to the extreme I though you were with the bingeing. I am also glad to hear that you feel safe, because I know you use the word fear a lot when talking about fasting so I didn’t have that impression. Thank you for clearing that up. ... ... I don’t doubt that you have progressed since I first read your posts, my only concern was whether or not you were injuring yourself in the process. If it is true that you aren’t, then I don’t have a problem with it. ... ... I’m sure no one meant any offense, and was just worried about you putting your h ... [retrieve this message]

Re: DAYS 1 - 14 of Lengthening Fasts: 66-Hour Fast! by dreamr 5 year 787

I'm sorry you feel that way about people who have genuine concern for you. I hope you find the help you're searching for. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: This is the 21st century by dreamr 5 year 1,300 Fasting: General

I don’t think overeating out of boredom is an ED, most people have probably done that at some point in their lives. That’s a good idea to get on the treadmill, exercise is a great way to help you not to overeat. ... ... I’m doing well with the exercise. My weight is about the same as when I first started, but I feel a lot better. I plan on posting on the exercise forum once I start to notice a difference in my shape. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: This is the 21st century by dreamr 5 year 1,444 Fasting: General

You don’t have to be a medical professional to have concern for someone who seems to be harming their body. I have encouraged Lauray in the past, but upon seeing her posts about bingeing to the point of pain, I expressed my concern to her privately that she needed to get in control of the bingeing before attempting a fast. ... ... I have struggled with bingeing/overeating off and on in the past, and had hoped a fast would remedy it. I never fasted long enough to find out if it would help (6 days was the longest), but I had a healthy fear of bingeing after the fast and was in enough control no ... [retrieve this message]

Re: pls help me (EDIT) by dreamr 5 year 839 Fasting: Weight

Dry fasting speeds up the process of water fasting, but usually isn’t recommended for more than 2 or 3 days at a time. It will accelerate healing and probably weight loss, but you have to be careful that you don’t let yourself become dehydrated. I’ve dry fasted for 2 days maximum, and I noticed that my hunger was easier to deal with than when drinking water. However, I think just drinking a minimal amount of water (sometimes just a few sips in a day) during a longer fast is safer and almost as effective. ... ... I am currently fasting one day a week, and I usually don’t drink water that day. ... [retrieve this message]

Re: REST in the "works of GOD", not in your own. by dreamr 5 year 1,558 Prophecy

Isaiah 66:22,23 ... ”For just as the new heavens and the new earth which I make will endure before Me,” declares the LORD, ”So your offspring and your name will endure. And it shall be from new moon to new moon and from sabbath to sabbath, all mankind will come to bow down before Me,” says the LORD. [End]

Re: The CHURCH (outer temple) hung on the cross.EDITED by dreamr 5 year 1,624 Prophecy

I admit that I’m in over my head with this debate, and I don’t have a wordy, sophisticated reply. I agree with a lot of what you say, God is our Father and Friend, and most definitely not a cruel punisher, but I still stand by my belief that Christians meeting together to worship is important. ... ... I’m sorry, I misunderstood and thought you were implying that you were a universalist. It’s nothing worth going into. ... ... Take care. ... ... Wendy ... ... [End]

Re: Revelation by dreamr 5 year 1,582 Prophecy

I grew up in a church that worshipped on Saturday, and also preached hell as being the grave. The idea of church, which is simply a bunch of believers gathering together to learn about the Bible and worship God, is not a bad thing. It is sad that so many people hate church, when church can be such a blessing. The devil is loving the fact that people are being turned away from religion. But thanks be to God that the battle is already won, and the devil hasn’t got a chance. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: The CHURCH (outer temple) hung on the cross.EDITED by dreamr 5 year 1,644 Prophecy

What you are implying is that since we are to live by the Spirit, there is no need for a literal temple, for the one replaces the other. But yet, even before Jesus came to Earth, since the beginning of sin, faith alone is the only thing that saved anyone. Living by the Spirit is not a new thing, it has been the way since Adam and Eve. ... ... God doesn’t change, He is constant. If He wanted people to worship physically as well as spiritually in the Old Testament, then there is no reason to think that He doesn’t want that anymore. The only change is in the sacrificial and cleansing laws beca ... [retrieve this message]

Church by dreamr 5 year 1,537 Prophecy

Maybe you were going to the wrong church? The Bible promotes meeting together with fellow believers, to worship together and strengthen faith. ... ... ... Matthew 18:20 ... ”For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.” ... ... Hebrews 10:24,25 ... and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. ... ... ... Also, consider evangelism. The churches are behind most missionaries, and think of how many people ... [retrieve this message]

Re: fasting and giving up smoking :) by dreamr 5 year 1,535 Fasting: Water

I don’t know how to make smiley faces but you can make something bold in text mode by typing: ... bold text here ... Type it without the spaces, I added them so it would show. You can also underline things the same way by using ”u” in place of ”b”. I’m assuming other HTML tags can be used in text mode also but I haven’t tried any. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Question about weight gain by dreamr 5 year 1,197 Exercise

I agree that it can be overdone, and there are people who hurt themselves by overdoing it. Moderation is definitely a good thing to live by. ... ... Yes, it’s great that we keep burning even afterward. That’s why I want to build muscles also, because not only do they look good, they burn even more calories throughout the day. ... ... The first few days I exercised, I barely made it through the programs, and my stomach felt like it had been kicked. It is so easy to get out of shape, and you really can tell when you try to exercise the way you used to and find out that you are huffing and puffing a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Question about weight gain by dreamr 5 year 1,165 Exercise

Wouldn’t it be great if it was truly addictive? My fiance was telling me it takes about three weeks to form a habit, but I told him that you always have to keep pushing yourself to exercise, because quitting isn’t hard to do. All it takes is skipping a day here, a day there, then next thing you know you’re skipping a week, and then it’s all over. I stopped exercising during my second pregnancy, and never picked it up again until now, over four years later. I don’t know how I even made it the one year that I did exercise, because before that I had never lasted longer than a month or two ... [retrieve this message]

LOL n/m by dreamr 5 year 1,082 Exercise

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Re: Question about weight gain by dreamr 5 year 1,133 Exercise

Hi Willow, it’s nice to see another poster! :) ... ... I’m kind of surprised that there isn’t more talk of exercise on CureZone, as I believe it is a very important part of being healthy. In fact, the more you exercise, the less strict you have to be about eating habits because it burns more toxins. I don’t mean it enables a diet of junk food, but for those like me who don’t want to give up meat, dairy, and cooked foods, exercise helps to balance it out. I think CureZone needs more people to talk about exercise along with nutrition when it comes to healing. ... ... Those shoes look interesting, I ... [retrieve this message]

Re: The EU Must Keep Sunday by dreamr 5 year 877 Christianity Debate

Exodus 20:9-11 ... ... Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy. ... ... ... Daniel 7:25 ... ... He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterati ... [retrieve this message]

Christianity, Religion, and the "Ultimatum" by dreamr 5 year 372 Christianity Debate

I see so many people criticizing Christianity because of their experience with people in the church, and it saddens me. Sure, there are plenty of lost people in the church, but there are also people full of love in the church. I’ve met plenty of judgmental and self-righteous ”Christians”, but I know better than to use them as a measure for what true Christianity is all about. The most loving people I’ve known were Christians. ... ... A lot of people think that God is trying to scare people into loving Him by threatening them with ”hell”. I believe in annihilationism, which basically means t ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Question about weight gain by dreamr 5 year 1,241 Exercise

Thanks for your reply, this forum seems pretty dead. My weight is less now, so it must have been water weight or something. My brother said he thinks people retain a little weight at first when they start to exercise because the body isn’t used to the extra calorie burning yet. I have no idea what my measurements are, and I’m not sure I want to know, lol. So far my pants are fitting the same, so it’s probably too early to see a difference. ... ... I don’t really care much about the numbers, but I do know that once when I exercised for a year and built up my muscles (but still had a little b ... [retrieve this message]

Re: One year on, 90 pounds lost, 25 to 40 pounds left to go. by dreamr 5 year 1,684 Fasting: Water

Amazing! Congratulations, you are an inspiration! ... ... Wendy [End]

Question about weight gain

by dreamr 5 year 1,302 Exercise

I started exercising 8 days ago (have exercised 6 of the 8) and I don’t think I’ve been eating more than I normally do. I’ve been doing a mixture of cardio, toning, and pilates, and I’ve gained about 2 pounds. Is it possible to gain that much muscle that quickly, or is it more likely that I’ve just been eating too much? ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Do women buy workout videos? by dreamr 5 year 891 Exercise

I would prefer a dvd, too inconvenient to try to rig up my computer so that I could exercise in front of it. ... ... Wendy [End]
Re: Update on Obama Crisis... by dreamr 5 year 662 Ask Trapper

I’m so relieved that we at least have a smooth talker for our next president! [End]
Re: Alkaline Water by dreamr 5 year 1,405 Fasting: Water

”It would have to turn water into vodka for me to pay that much.” ... ... Funny! ... [End]
Re: day one of the journey by dreamr 5 year 518 Fasting: Water

I’m so sorry for your loss. I wish you the best with your fast and hope that it will help with your condition. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: I am NOT fasting anymore until.. by dreamr 5 year 1,972 Fasting: Water

”It is a battle and a struggle and God makes me fight hard for some things.” ... ... Rainy, ... ... This is actually one of my problems that I have to keep reminding myself isn’t true. God doesn’t make you fight for anything, He simply asks us to LET GO and give Him ALL of our troubles so that He can deal with them for us. I have found from experience that the more I look to Jesus instead of focusing on my problems, the more my problems slowly fade away. ... ... (Underlines added by me.) ... ... John 15:5 (Jesus speaking) ... ”I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will be ... [retrieve this message]

Re: is this normal? by dreamr 5 year 523 Fasting: Water

I had an elevated heart rate a couple of days into one of my fasts, it’s not unusual. I don’t remember how it was on my other fasts, but that particular time it was pounding so fast that I started to freak out and went to bed. The next day it was fine. ... ... Most people are a bit weak at first, it’s just part of the process. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Trigger foods.Chocolate and sex. by dreamr 5 year 1,960 News / Diet & Nut / Raw Vegeta

Lol well that’s not exactly where my train of thought was going. I don’t know, right now it says diet and nutrition but it’s really just whatever I click on first. If you’re referring to me saying I eat meat, I didn’t know meat eaters couldn’t post in the raw vegetarian forum. ;) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Trigger foods. by dreamr 5 year 2,070 News / Diet & Nut / Raw Vegeta

If you believe there is such thing as a sex addiction, you can’t say that all addictions are chemically induced. Unless you want to argue that pheromones are the cause, which would be silly. How do you ”logically” define addiction? Based on the dictionary, it’s a physiological and psychological need. How do you define need then? Who has ever died from chocolate withdrawal? ... ... I agree avocados are probably yummy because of the fat content, but the mouth feel of animal fat? That sounds gross! I still do eat meat and cheese, avocados are just tastier. My point in bringing it up was tha ... [retrieve this message]

Lighten up a little, it's good for the soul. n/m by dreamr 5 year 1,960 News / Diet & Nut / Raw Vegeta

Lighten up a little, it’s good for the soul. n/m [End]

Re: Improve Your Health and Well-Being with Raw Chocolate by dreamr 5 year 2,092 News / Diet & Nut / Raw Vegeta

To each their own, I’m more addicted to avocados than I ever was to chocolate. I used to crave chocolate all the time, but not anymore. ... ... Too much garlic is harmful, yet small amounts are said to have many benefits. Moderation is the key to everything. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Improve Your Health and Well-Being with Raw Chocolate by dreamr 5 year 1,995 News / Diet & Nut / Raw Vegeta

I’m addicted to avocados, I even had to quit eating them for a time because I was eating too many. My brother agrees that they’re addictive too. I’m also addicted to tomatoes. ... ... I have no idea who’s right or wrong here, but I don’t see anyone saying that candy bars, cupcakes, and milkshakes are good for you. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: More Eating Disorder support links by dreamr 5 year 1,948 Fasting Debate

No problem! I think bigorexia is about obsessively building muscle, not sure why they lumped it together with compulsive overeating. To me they are entirely different things. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: More Eating Disorder support links by dreamr 5 year 1,881 Fasting Debate

I think it’s great that you are making an effort to help others. Have you thought about posting some links on the anorexia and bulimia forum you linked to in your OP, and the bigorexia and compulsive overeating forum? ... http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=438 ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Fasting support for people with current / previous eating disorders by dreamr 5 year 1,919 Fasting Debate

I understand, I guess I’m just picturing the people that have it so bad they are nothing but bones, and I wouldn’t want them to think a fast would help them at that point, because it could be fatal. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Fasting support for people with current / previous eating disorders by dreamr 5 year 1,899 Fasting Debate

In order for the body to heal during a fast, it needs sufficient stores to live off of. Anorexics are already starving, and a lot of bulimics are also if they are always throwing up everything they eat. I’m not saying turn them away without any support, I’m just saying there is no way it would benefit them to fast when they are already damaging their organs by not eating or not retaining what they’re eating. As for binge eaters, the root of the problem should be addressed before a fast because overeating, especially the wrong foods, after a fast is dangerous and can lead to death (if th ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Fasting support for people with current / previous eating disorders by dreamr 5 year 1,942 Fasting Debate

I don’t see fasting as a problem for someone who has truly overcome an eating disorder, and is no longer malnurished, but I definitely don’t think it’s a good idea for anyone who is still struggling with an eating disorder. Even a binge eating disorder can be a problem in fasting if the person can’t control themselves after the fast. ... ... It was a good idea for you to post those links, mouseclick. In fact, I think there needs to be some kind of warning in the FAQs for the water fasting forum making it clear that it is not the solution for those with serious eating disorders. Who knows how ... [retrieve this message]

Re: day 7 water fasting R by dreamr 5 year 1,600 Fasting: Water

How long you can fast is determined by how much nutrition stores you have in your body, not how much fat you have. 38 days is a long time for anyone, especially if the diet beforehand wasn’t healthy. You might get that far with no problem, but it’s good to be prepared to end it sooner in case you need to. I’ve read of a case where a fasting doctor told an obese patient to keep going even after hunger returned, because the patient still had fat on his body. He ended up starving to death. Our bodies are all different and it is best to go by what your body tells you. It is very importan ... [retrieve this message]

Re: I'm feeling very low :( please give me some advice about fasting? by dreamr 5 year 534 Fasting: Water

I don’t really know how to answer your post, but since no one else has, I’ll give it a try. When I am struggling, I try to focus on my goals and how important they are to me. You have to want the benefits more than you want to eat. Because of this, I have yet to go as long as I want to on a fast. ... ... Instead of thinking about what I want to eat right now, I think of the different kinds of healthy foods I’m going to eat after the fast, and which foods I need to add or take away from my diet. I do a lot of reading on fasting and nutrition to encourage me. ... ... For me, the desire for food is ... [retrieve this message]

Re: New to fasting altogether! What can I expect? by dreamr 5 year 565 Fasting: Water

This will give you a general idea of what happens during a fast: ... ... ... http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=25,1787,2836&q=759 ... ... ... I recommend reading books about fasting before attempting a long one. There is also a lot of information available online. You might be able to find some good links if you do a search in this forum. It is important to get familiar with the possible side effects, so that you will know if you experience something abnormal. ... ... You won’t use the bathroom as often as on a juice fast. The longest I water fasted was 6 days, and I only had one bowel movement. ... ... Anorex ... [retrieve this message]

Re: I miss fasting already by dreamr 5 year 521 Fasting: Water

I’m glad my post motivated you! Today is the day I picked for my weekly fast, and depending on how I feel tomorrow, I might keep going. My body is still asking for a long one. ... ... Wendy [End]

Great post! n/m by dreamr 5 year 518 Fasting: Water

Great post! n/m [End]
Re: I miss fasting already by dreamr 5 year 507 Fasting: Water

Thanks, Julia. I’ve decided to stick with the one day fasts for now, I don’t think I’m ready yet for a long one. 21 days for a first fast is amazing! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: I miss fasting already by dreamr 5 year 596 Fasting: Water

Thank you for the encouragement! I’ve broken a few fasts the wrong way too, it’s hard not to if you’ve only gone a few days. I think I’m going to postpone trying a long one for now and just fast one day a week. A plus is that my fiance said he would do it with me, and he has some health issues that it might help. ... ... I can’t find much information about one day fasting except for a few personal experiences, so I guess I will find out on my own what the benefits are. It’s like doing my own little experiment. :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Longevity and fasting by dreamr 5 year 728 Fasting: Water

I’ve wondered the same thing about what they looked like, lol. They would have wrinkled a lot more slowly. There is a theory that before the flood there was a layer of water above the earth, between the atmosphere and space, and this protected them from harmful sun rays and also kept the weather the same all year long. It wasn’t until after the flood that man’s lifespan shortened. Interesting stuff. :) ... ... Wendy [End]

I miss fasting already

by dreamr 5 year 588 Fasting: Water

After eating yesterday, I woke up this morning to the all too familiar lack of energy that I’m used to. Yesterday morning I was a lot more refreshed than I’d been in a while. It makes me want to fast again, but I’m torn between that and my plan of fasting one day a week and exercising 5 days a week. I don’t want to exercise on a fast, except for maybe walking and/or yoga. ... ... I probably would have made it through yesterday if it hadn’t been my dad’s birthday, which I had forgotten when starting the fast. It wasn’t the cake that tempted me (I don’t really like cake), even though I had a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Longevity and fasting by dreamr 5 year 749 Fasting: Water

In Genesis 6:3 God says man will no longer live over 120 years after a certain point: ... ... Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.” ... ... There are probably a handful of people that have lived a few years more than that since Bible times, but I think it’s more of a general rule. Of course, this fun little fact means nothing for those who don’t believe in the Bible. ... ... Wendy ... ... P.S. The longest living person in the Bible was Methuselah, at 969 years. Can you imagine living that long? [End]

lol ditto n/m by dreamr 5 year 608 Fasting: Water

lol ditto n/m [End]
Re: Broke fast by dreamr 5 year 618 Fasting: Water

Yeah the first two days are always the easiest for me, then every day after that just seems to get harder. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Broke fast by dreamr 5 year 608 Fasting: Water

Thank you, LB! I have problems with the boredom too. One of the things that makes it hard also is having to cook for 4 other people. ... ... I plan on doing one of my exercise videos tomorrow morning, so hopefully I won’t pass out, lol. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Broke fast by dreamr 5 year 673 Fasting: Water

Thank you! I agree that it’s more mental, I actually was feeling pretty good physically. Maybe someday... ... ... Wendy [End]

Broke fast

by dreamr 5 year 696 Fasting: Water

Today is the third day and I just didn’t have enough resolve to keep going. I broke my fast with some grapes. I thought maybe I was ready for a long one but I guess I haven’t gotten to that point. I’m going to work on eating better and start an exercise routine, and maybe that will help me get out of my rut of feeling bad all the time. I’m also considering fasting one day a week after all, as a lot of people seem to reap benefits from it. As long as I’m exercising, muscle loss shouldn’t be an issue. ... ... I was hoping to get some spiritual benefits from a long fast, but I guess it’s not ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Avoiding the Yo Yo Effect After Fast...Your Thoughts by dreamr 5 year 717 Fasting: Water

Do you live near a Kroger? That’s where I buy my Ezekiel bread. I know what you mean about the prices, I’ve tried going organic but I end up spending twice as much and then running out of food, lol. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Avoiding the Yo Yo Effect After Fast...Your Thoughts by dreamr 5 year 802 Fasting: Water

Loulougirly, ... ... Thanks for the link! However, I am horribly anti-social, and the idea of being in a program like that is very unpleasant. ... ... Sugar and flour aren’t an issue with me, I use sprouted bread and don’t have a sweet tooth. My weaknesses are things like ranch dressing, butter, and potatoes. Food addiction isn’t the main reason I’m fasting, I just wanted to point out that it can be a useful tool for some people. The main reason that I’m fasting is spriritual, and also that I feel like crap all the time, always tired even though I sleep way too much. Feeling like crap makes it ... [retrieve this message]

No problem :) n/m by dreamr 5 year 3,789 Fasting Debate

No problem :) n/m [End]

Re: Questions about the safety of water fasting by dreamr 5 year 3,968 Fasting Debate

I wasn’t referring to you at all, was talking about the so-called doctors out there who act like they know what they’re talking about. Not saying that I would take everything you say as absolute fact without checking it out, but I would trust someone who has experience with fasting over someone who is trying to debunk it without any real, in-depth research. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Avoiding the Yo Yo Effect After Fast...Your Thoughts by dreamr 5 year 819 Fasting: Water

Is raw butter different than the organic butter you can buy in a box at the grocery store? ... (EDIT: Nevermind, I looked it up and realized that the butter I have is made from pasteurized cream, not raw cream.) ... ... I agree that a good diet is the best way to lose weight, but a fast can help for those of us with those pesky cravings that we just can’t get rid of. For instance, I love salad and avocado sandwiches, but eating those won’t stop me from still craving junk afterward because my body is used to it and it will keep wanting more until the cause of the cravings is dealt with (toxins). ... [retrieve this message]

Re: day 9 of water fast by dreamr 5 year 557 Fasting: Water

Hi Sacristia, ... ... I agree with everything LivingBlessed said, so I don’t really have anything to add. I just wanted to say I’m sorry you are feeling down and I hope things get better for you. I’ll pray for you if that’s ok. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Please reply if you get this as an email!! by dreamr 5 year 1,373 Fasting Debate

Good post, LB! I have to admit that I’m more motivated to post when something I read rubs me the wrong way, lol. Debates are interesting to me because I’m an argumental person by nature, but I do prefer to read rational, intelligent posts instead of personal attacks on others. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Avoiding the Yo Yo Effect After Fast...Your Thoughts by dreamr 5 year 861 Fasting: Water

”So I am taking my thoughts and actions very slow...so as to use this fast as an opp for a lifestyle and OUTLOOK change.” ... ... That is how I feel at this point also. I have struggled with the yo-yo effect too (but not through fasting), which is one thing I want to break free from with a long fast. I have spiritual issues which I feel contribute to my addictions just as much as the physical issues. ... ... I agree that fasting is pointless without a proper diet change. I’m hoping that a long fast will at least make the transition into a better lifestyle a little easier for me. If it doesn’t wo ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Questions about fasting regularly by dreamr 5 year 1,439 Fasting: Water

Hi Tweeter, ... ... Wow, you’ve been doing this for a long time, kudos! I hope that I can have discipline such as yours in the near future. I don’t have major health issues, but I know that right now I’m very toxic, so a long fast is what I need to kickstart better eating habits. ... ... Thank you, your post was very helpful! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Questions about fasting regularly by dreamr 5 year 1,522 Fasting: Water

Hi Lisa, ... ... Thank you for your input, and congratulations on day 10! The longest fast I’ve ever done was 10 days, but it wasn’t strictly water, I was cheating every now and then with juice or tea. At the time I wasn’t educated enough to know better. On water only, the longest I’ve gone is 6 days. I’ve also done a few shorter fasts, but they were spread too far out to really bring about any results. Even the 6 day fast didn’t do much for me after a couple of days of refeeding. ... ... I’m hoping to go much longer with the one I’m on now, in order to reset my body into eating right. I eat a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Please reply if you get this as an email!! by dreamr 5 year 1,485 Fasting Debate

Notifications don’t work for me for some reason, so I just check my favorite forums for new posts throughout the day. ... ... I can post some false information about fasting if you’d like, to encourage someone to point it out as wrong. ;) Problem is, I’d be the first one to come back and discredit myself, lol. ... ... Wendy [End]

Questions about fasting regularly

by dreamr 5 year 1,531 Fasting: Water

As I contemplate how long I will be able to make it on this fast (on day 2), I’m thinking of how I’m going to integrate regular fasting into my life. Detox and weight management are my long-term motives, along with keeping my head clear to improve my spiritual life (for this fast my motive is mostly spiritual). ... ... I’ve done some reading on fasting one day a week, but I don’t know how I feel about that because it’s not long enough to really get into ketosis, and also I know that the muscles are used as fuel more in the first day or two than after that. Even though it’s an insignificant am ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Did somebody delete some messages? by dreamr 5 year 443 Fasting: Water

I visit that forum, there just isn’t anything more for me to contribute to those threads. Things usually die down at some point anyway. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: So who is currently fasting, and who intends to fast soon? by dreamr 5 year 863 Fasting: Water

I’m starting today, or at least I hope so, have my fingers crossed that I will make it. Not going for any particular length, although I would love to be able to do a fast to completion. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: i was looking for you... by dreamr 5 year 1,057 Personal Conflicts

Please correct me if I’m mistaken, but haven’t you professed to be a Christian? Your attitude certainly doesn’t reflect it. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: not that any of you would care... by dreamr 5 year 1,046 Personal Conflicts

Bella Lucia, ... ... I don’t post very often, but I have been reading this forum for some time and gained a lot from your posts while you were going through your fasts. I have to say that I am sad to see that you no longer want to be a part of this forum, although I completely understand why. I hope that you won’t be gone forever, and I think I speak for more than just myself when I say that you will be missed (I remember when you had a long break from posting and I told my fiance, ”I don’t know what happened to Bella Lucia”). I know that I haven’t contributed much to this forum, but I belie ... [retrieve this message]

lol n/m by dreamr 5 year 671 Fasting: Water

lol n/m [End]
LOL check mouseclick's last post. n/m by dreamr 5 year 454 Fasting: Water

LOL check mouseclick’s last post. n/m [End]
Re: Looking for Fasting Buddies! I want to go 14 days or more. by dreamr 5 year 472 Fasting: Water

When are you planning on starting? I attempted to start today but couldn’t resist dinner so going to try again tomorrow. ... ... Wendy [End]
very cute, had to chuckle :) n/m by dreamr 5 year 1,895 Fasting Debate

very cute, had to chuckle :) n/m [End]

Re: Questions about the safety of water fasting (edit) by dreamr 5 year 3,896 Fasting Debate

Just because you feel you’ve experienced unfairness, doesn’t call for making the blanket statement of, ”You’re probably not gonna find any fairness on this forum”, which seems to imply that there is no one here that practices fairness. ... ... Speaking for myself, my opinions are not set about water fasting or any other alternative medicine for that matter. I have learned quite a bit in the last couple of years, and my opinions have changed accordingly. If you want to complain about unfairness, you shouldn’t be unfair by lumping us all together as one big ”stampeed”. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: O/T question by dreamr 5 year 3,912 Fasting Debate

Thank you for your reply, I hadn’t realized that you didn’t think distilled was best for everyday drinking. I had been using filtered tap lately but discovered that my son has what looks like a mild case of fluorosis on his front teeth and it scared me into buying distilled water again. I’ve been on the fence about the whole distilled water thing for a long time and seeing your post brought up all the old questions again. I’m going to have to do some more research. See what you did! :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Questions about the safety of water fasting by dreamr 5 year 4,121 Fasting Debate

”I even said to form your opinions. ... ... However, unfortunately I think this thread is being driven into something I really don’t care much for or intended.” ... ... I thought that’s what we were doing, forming our opinions, or were we supposed to keep them to ourselves while we formed them? My opinion is that not everyone who labels themself as an ”expert” truly is one, and not everything that is brought forth as evidence is trustworthy. ... ... Wendy [End]

O/T question by dreamr 5 year 3,956 Fasting Debate

InCharge, ... ... You said you had a post that didn’t support drinking distilled water only. I remember you recommending distilled water to me while I was fasting, so I was wondering, did you change your mind about distilled water, or do you only recommend it for during a fast? Sincerely curious here, no sarcasm or criticism intended. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Questions about the safety of water fasting by dreamr 5 year 4,013 Fasting Debate

One of the links they posted that was discrediting fasting was using examples of children that had been fasted for too long by their parents and died. It looks to me like obvious starvation, but that’s an assumption on my part so I stand corrected that I should have been more clear about what I meant. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Questions about the safety of water fasting by dreamr 5 year 4,111 Fasting Debate

References to cases where people starved to death are hardly proof that fasting kills. There are many guidelines to follow while fasting, and I haven’t seen anyone here support reckless fasting without proper study of the subject. Nor have I seen anyone claim that fasting is safe for everyone in every circumstance. ... ... It’s good that you cleared it up that your original post was directed to ”members who mention juice feasting/fasting all time”, because I would never have guessed that on my own. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: an apology. by dreamr 5 year 1,975 Fasting Debate

I wasn’t trying to discredit your point, or get involved with the moderating ordeal at all. Someone who doesn’t know very much about this site might read your post and not even bother trying to find a religious forum, which is why I pointed it out that there are some for those who want to post there, regardless of how little those particular forums are visited. My post wasn’t meant to have anything to do with what the webmaster said. ... ... I am aware that this site is mainly about alternative medicine. I guess my definition of science is different than just what conventional medicine teach ... [retrieve this message]

Re: an apology. by dreamr 5 year 1,957 Fasting Debate

”Considering there are no religious forums on Curezone” ... ... Actually, there are: ... ... ... http://curezone.com/forums/?v=290&o=1&q=0 ... ... ... Based on your post, if something can be backed up scientifically, it doesn’t belong on CureZone? Can you reference to where CureZone states that? I don’t want to become part of this argument, I just don’t think we should be giving people the wrong idea about what kind of website CureZone is. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day 8 and I still have a bad headache? by dreamr 5 year 647 Fasting: Water

Day 8 is still early if you are looking for complete detox. Our bodies are all different, just because someone says it should be a certain way doesn’t mean it will. Euphoria is a broad term, I wouldn’t worry too much about waiting for something spectacular to happen. Just know that your body is healing while you fast, and that the longer you go, the greater the benefits you will receive, even if you aren’t aware of them until after the fast. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day 6 and still bad detox? by dreamr 5 year 575 Fasting: Water

A water fast is much different than a master cleanse, detox and healing are more accelerated. I also experience hunger longer than the norm, not sure why. I agree with jaymz that you should only drink when thirsty. I find it easier to get over the hunger when I don’t drink a lot of water. Not sure about the back pains, but could very well be healing. I like to think that all my pains during fasting are healing or detox, but I’m no expert. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Ot...smell of pee? by dreamr 5 year 599 Fasting: Water

I notice the same thing during my fasts, I believe it’s just the toxins that are being eliminated. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: 75 day hunger strike? by dreamr 5 year 752 Fasting: Water

How do you know you have plenty of ”energy reserves” to last 75 days? If you do go through with it, please don’t go past the point of when your body starts to demand food again. Whatever the cause is, I’m sure it’s not worth hurting yourself for. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day 32 I think. Pretty tired of fasting by dreamr 5 year 741 Fasting: Water

Having fat left on the body doesn’t mean you haven’t used up your nutritional stores. When you become truly hungry, it’s time to end it, no matter how much fat is still left on your body. It is always ok to stop, as long as you do it properly. Juice or fresh juicy fruit is the way to go. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: O/T - APPROACH WITH CAUTION by dreamr 5 year 888 Fasting: Water

What does this post have to do with the original post, and water fasting of all things? I’ve been watching this forum off and on for 2 years and have seen nothing like what you describe. Bitterness is an awful thing to carry around. ... ... Wendy [End]

Reaping the benefits

by dreamr 5 year 698 Fasting: Water

After my 6 day fast, I’m happy to say that I’m noticing a big difference. I am much less hungry, and have no desire to binge, which is absolutely wonderful. Alcohol is not very appealing to me anymore. I stopped craving the junk food I was wanting while on my fast, so now I want it even less than before I started. I still seem to be going through some detox symptoms, which is good. My energy level is better than it used to be, and I reorganized 2 rooms yesterday. I wasn’t expecting this much change with such a short fast, but I’m glad it turned out this way! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Fasting insomnia? by dreamr 5 year 5,782 Fasting: Water

I think many people experience this during fasting, I know I do. I get to sleep eventually, but I do a lot of tossing and turning first. It’s usually my legs that are the most restless, but I’ve had that problem a lot to begin with. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Grapefruit juice and a water fast by dreamr 5 year 1,380 Fasting: Water

I understand that a juice fast is inferior, I only recommeded it if they were going to continue drinking tea. Even a healthy diet without fasting can bring about healing and mental awareness. Time is relative. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Grapefruit juice and a water fast by dreamr 5 year 1,394 Fasting: Water

I don’t have any links to give you, but I know that anything besides water will get in the way of water fasting. If you add any kind of sweetener, then the calories would definitely prevent full ketosis (artificial sweetener is toxic so you wouldn’t want to use that either). As for tea by itself, I’m not really sure how the body reacts to it because it has no calories, but it still goes back to the fact that it interferes with the healing process. Also, anything other than water can cause you to remain hungry during the fast. It is safer to just stick with water. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day 1: (again!) by dreamr 5 year 603

"I want to kick the obsession with weight and instead focus more on the spiritual and healing aspects of fasting." ... ... That is how I feel exactly! I broke my fast on day 7 but will do another one s... [End]

Re: Grapefruit juice and a water fast by dreamr 5 year 3,780 Fasting: Water

The tea will interfere with the process of a water fast, if you don’t allow your body to go into full fasting mode, it could result in a ”starvation diet”. If you are going to consume anything other than water, I would recommend doing a juice fast instead so that you are giving your body the nutrition it needs. A juice fast can bring mental awareness and other benefits of a water fast, it will just take longer to achieve. ... ... Wendy [End]

Thank you, I think so too. n/m by dreamr 5 year 874 Fasting: Water

Thank you, I think so too. n/m [End]

Re: I feel crap after 10 days by dreamr 5 year 839 Fasting: Water

That’s great that you are feeling good so early on! My fasts usually get easier each time also, although the last one was harder than the one before. I think maybe it had to do with drinking a minimal amount of water, which I know speeds up the detox process considerably. The only regret I have about ending mine early is that I told everyone it would be a complete fast, and I don’t like going against what I said I was going to do. Other than that, I’m glad I ended it. I’m already seeing some great benefits (smaller appetite and less desire to drink, for example), and after I spend tim ... [retrieve this message]

lol n/m by dreamr 5 year 850 Fasting: Water

lol n/m [End]

Re: I feel crap after 10 days by dreamr 5 year 813 Fasting: Water

I know the feeling of no light at the end of the tunnel, I think that’s partly why I struggled so much, I couldn’t imagine spending that many days in misery. From now on when I fast, I’m not going to set a number of days, or try for completion. I’m just going to start, then end when I end. That way there is no failure! :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 986 Fasting: Water

Thank you. I haven’t given up on fasting, I want it to be a part of my life. I need to rearrange my priorities, that’s all. And maybe wait to post about my fasts until, say, 2 weeks into it, lol. Unless, of course, it’s intended to be a short one. I still think 6 days is an accomplishment. ... ... Wendy [End]

I agree. n/m by dreamr 5 year 894 Fasting: Water

I agree. n/m [End]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 888 Fasting: Water

I’m not blaming it on God, or using Him as an excuse, but I can see how it can seem that way. Yes, I wanted to get over my addictions, but the main reason was to lose weight and keep it off. Not that that is a bad thing to try for. I am a obsessive person, and I can recognize an obsession when I get one. I have been obsessed with fasting for a while, and then while fasting I began obsessing about food way more than I normally do. It’s not about saying God is standing in my way, it’s about giving it all to Him so we can sort it out together. I had told my brother that God wanted me to ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 1,017 Fasting: Water

That’s sad that children watch so much tv, I believe that is really stunting their imagination. My soon-to-be stepson watches a lot of tv and plays a lot of video games when he lives with his mom, and even though he’s been here for about 3 months, he still gets bored with everything else very quickly. For this reason, I have limited tv even more and basically eliminated computer games for the kids. Children are also more susceptible to commercials, my son wants to buy everything he sees on tv. One day he got all excited about a garden tiller and said we needed to buy one, lol. ... ... Wendy [retrieve this message]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 943 Fasting: Water

Yes, I was strictly on water. I don’t consider anything else true fasting. I’m sure my difficulties were psychological, I had just hoped that fasting would help with that. It might have later on in the fast, but some issues caused me to decide to end it early. I will try again one day, and maybe at that point I won’t have a food addiction. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 920 Fasting: Water

Watching tv may cause people to eat more, but eating more doesn’t cause people to watch tv. And I would say that eating while watching tv is less about the commercials and more about wanting to eat during a very inactive pastime. For instance, people like to eat while watching a movie in a theater, or even while reading a book. Like InCharge, I don’t have cable either, it’s a waste of money to me. I’ve personally never met anyone that watches 7 hours of tv a day. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 980 Fasting: Water

Thank you for your advice. I’m not sure how eating at night means someone watches tv, I’m not really into watching tv that much. I am on my computer a lot, partly because of my work, and I’ve read just about everything I can find about fasting. It starts to get boring reading the same stuff over and over. It doesn’t matter though, I decided to end my fast today. I posted about it in my blog because I didn’t want to offend anyone with my beliefs. Thanks again! ... ... Wendy [End]

Day 7 by dreamr 5 year 1,397 Blog: My extended water fa

I actually didn't feel that bad this morning, and the desire to eat wasn't as strong as yesterday. However, after going to church, I got to thinking about some things, and I realized that my motiv... [End]

Re: failure.. by dreamr 5 year 820 Fasting: Water

I’ve broken a fast after a day, started again, broke again after 2 more days and then started back the next day. It didn’t seem to take long at all to get back into ketosis. I went 7 days after that, and I know my benefits were still better than if I had only done the 7 days. Breaking the fast like that isn’t good for the body, but it’s already done, so I don’t see the harm in trying to continue. I don’t think that all 12 days are down the drain. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 934 Fasting: Water

I actually love fruits and vegetables, I grew up eating a lot of them (I still ate junk too, just not all the time). A salad is one of my favorite things to eat, especially if it has avocado in it. I know that one day at a time is all I can manage, and part of the reason that this is harder for me than my last fasts is that I’m aiming for completion, whereas the other ones I knew I wouldn’t be going for that long. Thinking of all those days ahead is daunting! I feel ok this morning, so I hope it lasts all day. Thank you again! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 944 Fasting: Water

I’m sorry to hear that you feel horrible. I am glad now that I didn’t quit, but then again, I always feel better in the mornings, especially since I’m a night eater. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Losing hope by dreamr 5 year 1,066 Fasting: Water

Well, technically none of it is true hunger, but it’s more than just a craving. I’m sure it’s mostly in my head, and due to my food addiction, but I was just hoping for it to get better with each day and not worse. I think you are right about the fat cells that are being consumed, I had thought that myself, about why I was wanting different foods. I just don’t know how many more days I can take, if I knew at what point it will get easier maybe it wouldn’t be as bad. I can handle the other detox symptoms but the desire for food is very difficult to deal with. I wish I could ignore it l ... [retrieve this message]

Losing hope

by dreamr 5 year 1,153 Fasting: Water

We almost quit today, both me and my fiance, but we managed to keep going somehow. I expected things to gradually get easier, especially the desire for food, as most talk about hunger going away after 3 days, but this is not the case for me. In fact, I am more obsessed with food now than I was when I started! This is worrying me. Today is my 6th day, and for the last couple of days I have been getting worse. I know that the detox will get hard, and that’s fine, but my appetite is growing bigger and bigger. ... ... How is everyone that is fasting doing? Is anyone past a week, and if so, ha ... [retrieve this message]

Day 6 by dreamr 5 year 730 Blog: My extended water fa

Not feeling too well today and had a bad evening yesterday. Acid stomach last night and nausea. My period started today so that's probably part of my discomfort. My whole body hurts, especially ... [End]

Re: Starting Thursday, August 14 by dreamr 5 year 801 Fasting: Water

Lauray, ... ... A little motivation can go a long way. Lots of planning is a good idea, keep finding things to keep you occupied. It’s neat that you found a faster in your area, I hope you will get some encouragement from him. My best advice is to take each hour and each day one at a time. You have it in yourself to succeed, just keep searching! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Starting Thursday, August 14 by dreamr 5 year 627 Fasting: Water

Rainy, ... ... Great words, you’ve inspired me to read my Bible! ... ... Wendy [End]
Re: Starting Thursday, August 14 by dreamr 5 year 664 Fasting: Water

Lauray, ... ... I sent you an email, glad to hear you have good motivation! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day 5 by dreamr 5 year 564

Hi Casablanca, ... ... Thank you for your support! That's great that you have done 2 other long fasts, I wish you the best on your new one. I'm glad to hear that you are also working on your relations... [End]

Day 5

by dreamr 5 year 1,060 Blog: My extended water fa

I only lost a pound since yesterday, which is the lowest so far. Kind of disappointing, especially since I had to walk over 2 miles yesterday, and I was thinking it would increase my weight loss f... [End]

Thank you! :) n/m by dreamr 5 year 604 Fasting: Water

Thank you! :) n/m [End]
Re: When we have no choice by dreamr 5 year 767 Fasting: Water

Karenx, ... ... Thank you, and good luck with yours as well. Congratulations on going over a week so far! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: When we have no choice by dreamr 5 year 681 Fasting: Water

Rainy, ... ... Thank you, yes, I am ok. On the way home from the school we stopped at a gas station and I bought some water. It was ice cold so I warmed it up in my mouth before swallowing it because I was worried it might cause some sort of shock since I was overheated. We were able to walk slowly, so that helped bring my heart rate down, although I was still running on empty. I was fine after a few minutes of being able to sit down when we got home. I was actually kind of glad it happened, the whole time I kept thinking, ”This is a good thing, you will burn more calories today.” I defin ... [retrieve this message]

When we have no choice

by dreamr 5 year 750 Fasting: Water

My 7-year-old son missed the school bus home today, and I had to walk over a mile (one way) in the hot sun to pick him up. I’m on my 4th day of water fasting, and let’s just say my energy was already pretty low. Before I even made it out of my subdivision, I felt like passing out. But I had no choice, I had to keep going. I also had to walk fast, and jogged a couple of times, because I was trying not to make the people in the office wait too long after their closing hours for me to get there. I definitely pushed my body farther than it wanted to go, especially on the last hill to the ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Starting Thursday, August 14 by dreamr 5 year 709 Fasting: Water

I wish you the best on your new fast. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day One Preparation by dreamr 5 year 642 Fasting: Water

Rainy, ... ... You’re welcome! If you’re anything like me, restricted eating is even harder than fasting. Don’t worry about little slip ups beforehand, it’s what you do on the fast that counts. I usually binge the night before, which isn’t a good idea, but I’m better at doing things cold turkey. Once you do start, if you can just make it through the first few days, the rest should be a little easier. I always tell myself that the beginning is the worst part, and if I can get through it, then I can go all the way. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: What to make for childrens' school lunches? by dreamr 5 year 1,030 Natural Hygiene

Chiron, ... ... Thank you, I will check out those links. I spent all day yesterday thinking about food too. :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Day 4 by dreamr 5 year 758 Blog: My extended water fa

If all goes well, this will be a fast to completion (until the return of real hunger). My goals are to overcome my food and alcohol addictions, lose weight, clear my mind and connect with God, and ... [End]

Re: What to make for childrens' school lunches? by dreamr 5 year 1,038 Natural Hygiene

Chirontherainbowbridge, ... ... Thank you so much for the ideas! I will look up some recipes for the foods you mentioned. As far as the avocado, I have no clue why they don’t like it (I never use them when they’re brown), it’s my all-time favorite food! I’m sure I will try to feed it to them again, ”dressed up” a little. I’m still in the middle of breaking them off of the bad foods, so maybe in time they will acquire a taste for more good foods. Thanks again! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day One Preparation by dreamr 5 year 680 Fasting: Water

I am on day 4, and I have a food addiction also. It’s a struggle just trying to make it through each hour. You have my support if you need it, good luck with your fast! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Need Advice by dreamr 5 year 777 Fasting: Water

Chrisb1, ... ... I just wanted to say thank you for helping Kevin with his questions. I am excited that he is trying to heal through fasting, and I’m glad you were able to give him advice that I couldn’t, especially about whether or not alternating between juice and water would be ok. Your kindness is appreciated. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Starting tomorrow! by dreamr 5 year 611 Fasting: Water

While I was juicing some fruits for my fiance last night, everything was calling my name. I could almost taste it just by the smell. Ask yourself, which do you want more, the benefits of the fast, or the pear? I have to constantly put things into perspective to even make it through the day. I won’t lie, it takes a LOT of effort and focus to resist temptation, but you can do it! ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: I'm ready to live again! by dreamr 5 year 528 Fasting: Water

Lilly, ... ... I’m sorry to hear about your struggle with eating disorders. I can relate to the binge eating, although I’ve never been diagnosed with BED by a doctor (I don’t go to the doctor except during pregnancy). My bingeing comes in waves, sometimes I have more control than other times. I am on day 3 of a water fast, and am hoping to cure myself of my food addiction also. I hope that you are doing this to heal yourself of the eating disorders, and not to shed the pounds you gained back. If you are doing this for true healing, then I wish you the very best and hope that you will succe ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Need Advice by dreamr 5 year 805 Fasting: Water

Don’t most people on this forum say drink according to thirst? So if we’re not thirsty the first day, why drink? I guess I’m missing the difference between a few sips of water and a day without. To me, dry fast means, ”I haven’t gotten thirsty yet so I will wait to drink until I am.” ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Need Advice by dreamr 5 year 936 Fasting: Water

I’m his fiance, and I think his question may have been misinterpreted. He wasn’t asking if he should water or juice fast instead of dry fasting, he was asking if he should juice fast instead of water fast. He has had some water, and after that he decided to start a juice fast (or diet or whatever you want to call it). I understand that this is a water fasting forum, but he was asking about BOTH a water fast and a juice fast, in order to determine which was better for his situation. I suppose the juice fasting forum would tell him not to talk about water fasting. Oh well. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Day 8 & Miserable by dreamr 5 year 623 Fasting: Water

From what I’ve read, detox symptoms are normal to experience well into the fast. Your body is probably tackling a new area of toxins, causing an increase in symptoms. I have a hard time sleeping while fasting also. As for the hunger, most likely it was just a craving. True hunger is in the throat and mouth and will not go away until you eat. Since you are aiming for 40 days, I would keep going. It will get better. ... ... Wendy [End]

What to make for childrens' school lunches?

by dreamr 5 year 1,110 Natural Hygiene

I would like to go to a diet of mostly raw foods, no dairy (except for butter), a limited quantity of meat and eggs, and possibly get into the food combining thing. Since I don’t want to make turkey sandwiches everyday, I quit buying peanut butter, almond butter is too expensive, and the boys don’t like avocados, I’m at a loss of what to fix for them for lunch. I use Ezekiel bread, made from sprouted grains, and I would still like to make some kind of sandwich for them. I’m worried about just packing a simple salad and some nuts because people at the school might raise an eyebrow and ge ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Here goes! by dreamr 5 year 907 Fasting: Water

Thanks, InCharge and chirontherainbowbridge, I will be checking my plastics from now on. There’s so many toxic chemicals in everything these days, it makes my head spin to read about it all. I guess I just have to try to pick the lesser evil. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Here goes! by dreamr 5 year 802 Fasting: Water

Thank you, and congratulations on 6 days! I hope it gets easier for me after that point also. This time I can’t quit, I have more reasons to keep going than excuses not to. ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Here goes! by dreamr 5 year 939 Fasting: Water

Thanks for the info about the oxygen, I didn’t know that. I have been going back and forth between distilled, spring, and filtered tap because I keep changing my mind about what is the best. I used to live on a piece of land that had a spring, and it tasted amazing and got stains out of my clothes like you wouldn’t believe. I also have been inside underground caverns where the tour guide said the water down there was some of the purest you can find. But the spring water I was buying recently tasted horrible and then there was still the plastic thing bothering me. If what you say is tru ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Here goes! by dreamr 5 year 839 Fasting: Water

Thank you, and good luck with your fast as well! I’ll be here if you need any support along the way. :) ... ... Wendy [End]

Re: Here goes! by dreamr 5 year 963 Fasting: Water

Thank you for your advice. I found on my previous fasts that water did not help with hunger, it actually made it worse for me. It was like it woke up my stomach, whereas when I don’t drink any water, I barely even notice my stomach. Also, the acid feeling in my stomach and esophagus is much less when I don’t drink water. I’m not saying that water is bad during a fast, I just know that for me, I do better with a short dry fast to start things off. I always drink when I get thristy, so I’m still following the ”drink according to thirst” view of fasting. ... ... I don’t have a water distiller ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Fasting and Weight Loss by dreamr 5 year 841 Fasting: Water

I haven’t done a long water fast yet, so I don’t for sure how it will be for me. I just started one today, so I will find out soon! I’ve seen others write about junk food cravings disappearing on their fasts, and it only seems logical that given enough time, the body will learn to crave the right foods. But, of course, the mind can be a powerful thing, so if you tell yourself that junk is what you want, and ignore what the body wants, it is still possible to go back to the wrong foods. ... ... Wendy ... ... Edit: I crave good foods too, I love ALL food! [End]

Here goes!

by dreamr 5 year 938 Fasting: Water

Today is the start of my water fast, which if all goes well, will be a fast to completion (until the return of real hunger). My goals are to overcome my food and alcohol addictions, lose weight, clear my mind and connect with God, and heal the damage I’ve done to my body over the years. My fiance is going to fast with me, both for support and also to try to heal some of his health problems. He has sinusitis, occasional migraines, and acid reflux. He’s going to be on a juice diet first, to make the transition easier, since he has to work. I work from home so I don’t have to worry about ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Fasting and Weight Loss by dreamr 5 year 871 Fasting: Water

I agree with chrisb1 and mouseclick. It is nearly impossible for me to follow any kind of restricted diet. Even when I tried to just eat as much as I wanted of the good foods, I still craved more and ate the junk on top of it, because I didn’t have the chance to clean out my body and rid myself of the addicting toxins. Also, the healing benefits of fasting are much more motivating than the benefits of a restricted diet. Not even comparable in my opinion. ... ... Wendy ... ... P.S. The comments about ordering a pizza and slashing the other three tires made me laugh. That’s my life story! [retrieve this message]

Re: Day 7, do I need to flush? by dreamr 5 year 749 Fasting: Water

My last water fast was 6 days and I didn’t have a movement until I broke the fast. I believe that salt water flushes and enemas are unnatural and possibly harmful, so if it were me, I would just let nature takes it’s course. [End]

Re: Fasted 39 Hours, 9 Hours longer than last fast. by dreamr 5 year 516 Fasting: Water

Lauray, ... ... I agree with InCharge that the bingeing afterward is not good for your health, so in that regard you are better off not fasting at all. I don’t think you have to be completely over a food obsession to fast, but if you know that you won’t have any self-control every time you end a fast, it would be wise to work on your willpower beforehand. There is nothing wrong with giving in to temptation to end a fast, it is how you end it that is the most important. Willpower doesn’t necessarily mean doing it all on your own either, it means having the will to take the steps to succeed, w ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Started New Fast Today by dreamr 5 year 535 Fasting: Water

Lauray, ... ... I wish you the best on your new fast, good for you for trying again! You said that you are afraid of failing again, and I know all too well how that feels. However, even though I have a hard time accepting this truth myself, you CANNOT fail. Ending a fast early is NOT failure. If you can go any lenth of time at all, you are still helping your body to clear at least some toxins. Think of it as a milestone, not as the fast of all fasts. Each time you fast, you learn something about yourself, even if it seems that sometimes you slip even further backward down the path. You a ... [retrieve this message]

Re: Lost Fast After 30 Hours (at least I did 30h) by dreamr 5 year 919 Fasting: Water

Lauray, ... ... I have been watching this forum for quite some time, and have wanted to post with my own story many times but decided to wait until I overcame some of my hurdles so I wouldn’t embarrass myself with my failures. (I am addicted to food, not just junk food, but ALL food, and I am determined to do a complete fast soon.) I haven’t read all of your posts, but from what I have read, it seems that you are just reaching out for some support so you won’t feel so alone while you struggle. I am amazed at some of the responses I see you getting. Being that this is a support forum, I woul ... [retrieve this message]

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