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    • Some reasons for going liquid... by loganberry  13 y
      • I agree.   by  JeSuisButterfly     15 y     1,697
        • Re: I agree.   by  loganberry     15 y     1,615     1 of 1 (100%)
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          Papillon, I wish to reply in a great deal more depth to your earlier message of today - and will do so. I was hoping to later today.

          For now, my brief answer, frankly, is NO, we are not like the "breatharians" - I don't believe that there is a single honest, true, really practising breatharian. They all, like David Jubb and Jasmuheen, think it's okay to pretend to eat a lirttle and meanwhile eat "cheese-cake", as the article I Websearched on Jubb said! No, we're not doing that, not remotely. We're doing this not for show, not to make money. We just want to be the best us we can be. In that light, I think you should implement whatever oil (coconut or flax or hemp - whatever) that you feel, or intuitively "know" helps you to be your best YOU - that's what it is about. We are really going to be honest, loving liquidarians, not hype-masters and charlatans. If you have a strong feeling about coconut oil/butter, or even less dissolvable things like bee pollen or WHATEVER, I say: follow it. Work it into your liquidarianism. Liquidarianism is, for me, not about lying to yourself or anyone else, the way breatharians do - we're just following what we feel is the ultimate. The difference is, we're really doing it. If we want cheeecake, we have light within us to say, no, cheesecake is abusive to us and the gentle sweet cows who are tied by the horns in dairy farms, never can turn their heads, never can turn around, and are killed after a lifetime of slavery anyway. We love too much to actually eat cheesecake and pretend it's all right just because we call ourselves liquidarians (like Jubb). Oh, Papillon, I know that's not right.

          This is about having the courage, and the love from SOMEBODY ELSE IN THIS WORLD, to be our best "me" - so if you hear 80-10-10 liquidarianism calling you, go for that. Work in the oil in the drink that your body/mind says YES to, and work in what greens you can. Just remember that fruit juices are refined carbohydrates and can set up chemical cravings it's so difficult to fight just with your mind - they are so PRIMAL and deeper than our will. So try what feels best and if you can't keep at it, try to increase the greens for balance and serenity - calm when you feel like freaking or dying or killing. My way is I'm going to have mostly greens, but with a natural sweetening agent, like fruit juice or even raw agave nectar (unheated). The more green I can be, I think the safer I'll be from wild crazy bingeing and getting desperate. The mind is no match for our biochemistry - we just get driven to do what we hate - we have to fight this with its own physiological weapons.

          I'm always here for you. I'm glad you said it'll be a doozy for you - it'll be way a doozy or me too! not even clean sailing the first day, maybe - certainly "issues" will arrive in the first couple of weeks. But remember, we're doing this for ourselves and for whatever we love most in/about our lives or life itself in all its beautiful potential, so tweak it as you feel instinctively best. I really do know that the more we can stay on track, the more our "mind" won't have to decide what's "okay" and what isn't - in fact, we'll have much greater, clearer, purer communication with our essential "good" self and our body-mind - it'll say, "Add more green juice", or, "Add some more of that coconut oil stuff - makes me feel good - hummmmm", or "Can you cut back on the fruit juice? Makes me feel kind of sugared out and down" or "Give me some more of that pineapple juice - enzymes! Whooppee!" and we'll be able to listen and try those suggestions, without freaking out, without "reacting" from our past, our hurting old self. That old mind-y self won't even be in the room discussing in. We'll be NEW. I know it really happens. And it's a miracle. Taking the whole eating reins away from the "me", at least that false me made by society and family, and putting it in the hands of real-me, healthy happy me.

          I don't have a human roommate, but if you do, you know...that it's the best, most loving thing, most PRESENT gift you can give to someone you are actually interacting with. To interact with him as truth, as love - as you. It's so difficult to know You - no words can really help - but the thing is, You are waiting there, in your chrysalis, waiting to just fly free from Them, Their agenda for your life, Their limitations. I can't think of anything really that's more precious to give someone you may not feel you _can_ love now, but whom you want to love, be free to love or not, as your real spirit bids. Whatever we feel, we want to feel as our real "Me", our real self, not the garbage of people and masses of people we don't even care about and who are against our joy and freedom.

          Our liquidarianism is going to be truth, not lies. So whatever version is your truth at this time, do that.It's about what your heart really believes in and goes out to - it's about what your Body and troubled Soul say Yes, this is Good, too. If that means oil in your liquid, then that is PRECISELY what your liquidarianism should be. Me, I've yet to have that Strong Sense of Yes, Good, from oils, so when I start, I'll be starting free of overt fats - maybe some spirulina for GLA - I do believe that if we are faithful for 2-3 months, we will get very clear signs of how to refine our liquidarianism to make it work best for all we want out of life, what we want for our bodies, our goals and dreams. We'll follow that voice WITHOUT EFFORT.

          It is so wonderful that you are there and READY to start - I'm going to have a raw vegan dinner and then start around 7 p.m. your time - I'll tell you when. Saying good-bye to stuff that's never made me happy - you know it'll feel so good. There's something I just don't like at all about eating - but I'm not at all against nourishing, really feeding myself healthily. I'm all for that. People might think that we're saying, the body doesn't need food really at all, but I don't think that's what we're saying. I think we're saying most people never get beyond the love and support and identit they try to get from their food - it never works. They live and die, in the embrace of "food", and it sure isn't food they've reared and grown and picked - it's somebody else's false product, like p 0 r n o g r a p h y instead of true love. I think we're into nourishment and are choosing the way that is most efficiently nourishing, most responsive to our actual primal needs, not the fractured, self-undermining needs that our upbringing thrusts upon us so uncaringly. If we do this, we have room to be open to life, because the part of us that needs to be safe and taken care of, is really being taken care of! Like being born again. And doing it right this time.

          I'm so glad you're there, doing this with me, even if it's just you and me. But I'm sure we'll inspire the world! It's something some of us just can't get out of our systems until we do it. It's only a betrayal of those who don't really love us or care what/who we are or become - for those we love, it's the ultimate expression of that love, of our best love.

          Get ready for doozy detox - if you feel like screaming or bingeing, email me. I too am doing this because I want to be so much more than "food". When you feel like eating, "eat" Nature. "Eat" music. "eat" a friend. "Eat" Yourself. How does that feel? Turn towards these things where once we turned to bread or whatever.

          What does it feel like to "eat" what we love, connect with, what our hearts go out to? No, I do not want my mind, my self, my life to be about eating anymore. It's been long enough - and it hasn't been good enough. Not NEARLY, faintly good enough. As a budding liquidarian, I sincerely believe we can't be our best or even know what our best is, "on food". We can feel our souls going out of us, lost...

          To reuniting with (or finding, for once) our souls - and to the stars!

          ~ Loganberry with love.

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