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Just checking in to make sure these are probably detox symptoms? Will they go till the end of the fast? ( Hopefully 40 days)
okay, thru out the the fast there has been some nausea but now it is like a permanent fixture, kind of there at low levels and then comes in more major waves. I have had abdominal pain too but maybe there is some healing or something going on.
I wish I had a clean colon prior to starting as the boards seem to advocate that prior to fasting, along with some saying and or promoting the use of enemas colonics etc prior during and post.
The other thing, is I have been really warm during this fast. I ususally drink room temperature water, but I seemed to need to cool down and drink cold water, this has been a constant.
Still having itching but assuming that is detox or maybe yeasts? I was on alot of meds in the past and I know I am toxic.
So this is detox probably? No reason to search out a colonic hydrotherapist anytime soon?
I am hoping to coast along until 40 days or so then begin the post fast plan..
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- Re: Day 25 WF: Detox or Autointoxic... Fonty
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,018,121They all sound like detox symptoms to me. Hopefully they won't stay with you till the end.
Are you getting plenty of rest? I know I'm the first to defend exercising but that is only when there is plenty of energy for it. It sounds like you could do with rest with all that going on! On the other hand if you have been resting a lot maybe a change of pace could help too. If you've been lying down or sitting a lot maybe a change of position will help, a short walk or a long shower. Or a relaxing bath can change things around inside and may give some relief too. Another thing is sunshine, that could help with your itching at least. If I have skin discomfort while fasting I always yearn for a bit of sun on it. The skin does handle a great deal of the detoxing while fasting, especially as the bowels are not usually working- the skin and lungs especially are doing amazing things to compensate! :)
Deep breathing could also help, the deeper you go literally the more toxins you breathe out. We usually only use a small percentage of our lung capacity so just sitting upright or lying down flat on your back and breathing deeply can improve really help things along as well. I have trained as a breath therapist and have experienced non fasting people actually breathing out things like old anaesthetics during a session. So leave your window open. :)
I would be interested to know how much water you are drinking and how you are feeling drinking it? During my recent fast I had some intestinal pain/cramps also and I have a feeling that it may have had something to do with the amount- too much maybe- of water I was drinking. Just a thought. But if you are not drinking too much water you are not putting any outside stress on your intestines or bowels so the discomfort is most likely a normal action of the fast. It would be nice to have a Fasting Friendly doctor handy to check things like that out with hey?
The nausea is normal and I've been told on here it is due to liver secretions into the stomach I think. My suggestion is to give into the nausea if possible and vomit it up. When I have done this there has been no burning sensation or anything like that, just a simple reflux and it's out and gone, mostly water and maybe some mucous or yellow bile.
Good luck achieving your goal, you've done great already!
Cheers,
Andrew.
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,018,153Thanks Fonty for your response. I am glad you think it is probably detox, I was hoping so.
I am not exercising, partly due to injury from accident and because I was concerned I might lose too many electrolytes ( I have autonomic dysfunction and can sweat a pool). I do light walking as able and some household duties, but am getting plenty of rest.
I do feel it is a lot of rest but it is not actually sleep, more just to recovery?. I have some health issues so I most of stuff is probably on par with fasting and feeling crap fabulous.. haha
Interesting comment about sunshine, I didn't know that it can reduce skin conditions.
I am drinking between 1 and 2 qts a day. I actually feel thirst or parched throat daily especially mornings, thought maybe that had something to do with ketosis? The cold water is refreshing, but I only take a few sips and come back to the water off and on so no probably there. I tried once to push 12 glasses a day because someone told me I needed more water to flush during fasting etc, but that was difficult and uncomfortable. I find that amazing you only got by most days with only one glass on your fast.
I had the intestinal pain and cramping for a number of days up through 11 day of the fast then that subsided. I thought perhaps it was something that needed to be processed since the colon was not clean.
Yes I was thinking of calling another hygienic doctor, I had already talked to one. I will consider another appointment. I was not sure I would last this long, but I still hope to go on for awhile.
Thank you for all your ideas and suggestions. You really offer some interesting things I had not thought about. Thanks for your encouragement and I wish you much success on your own fast.
Take Care,
nan
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It does sound like you are doing fine nan, and all are normal detox symptoms. Pain is always a concern that's why I mentioned the doctor and it is great you have that resource if you really think you need it. But as you said that's behind you which shows that the body has dealt with whatever it was as a normal process of the fast.
Sunshine is great for many things, especially while fasting. Your skin condition may just need time but I have found some skin conditions do respond favourably to sunlight. I usually have eruptions after fasting though, in the big elimination push on fruit as soon as I finish the fast.
I can totally relate to your talk about rest/sleep and crap fabulous too. :) The body is an amazing thing and the discomfort is worth putting up with knowing all the good the experience is doing us.
Andrew.
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- Re: Day 25 WF: Detox or Autointoxic... chrisb1
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,018,425Fonty is absolutely right.
Just a couple of points I could add.....
Too much water (in my opinion) inhibits the cleansing as the body has to deal with the excess that is just not needed: be guided by thirst would be good advice I think.
Fonty is also spot on with the sunlight benefits but don't overdo it....gradual exposure at first, increasing that exposure daily as your body becomes acclimatised to it. Too much sun can be enervating and result in sunburn.
Regards
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This is a reply to # 1,018,500Thank you Andrew and Chris for your responses.
Yes I am having some skin eruptions along with the itching. You ( Fonty) experienced skin eruptions post fast? Why is that ? A delayed effect from the contaminants in the colon or something else?
I heard about all sorts of skin eruptions especially with parasite cleanses, which I hope to begin sometime after the post fast period.
I was hoping to get some sunlight but it has gotten rather chilly here now. I found that I was shivering last night, despite down comforter blanket etc. I read you should not fast in winter, perhaps it is for this reason. The cold uses up energy reserves via shivering etc? Just a thought. Too bad I don't live in Costa Rica for the length of a temporary fast.. :)
Thanks again for your thoughts..
take care, nan
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- Re: Day 25 WF: Detox or Autointoxic... chrisb1
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,018,794Nan
you are welcome to any help I can give.
It is vitally important to keep warm during a fast.
In my own and others experience, a faster can feel cold, especially if they are not burning any calories. The extremities are the most vulnerable in chilling......I used to wear bed socks all day!!!
Stop laughing......thank you.
The chilling can be enervating, inhibits cleansing, and uses up energy reserves at a faster rate than would otherwise be the case.
Use warmer clothing, and if necessary a hot water bottle on retiring to bed.
Even post-fast, the body is still cleansing and skin eruptions are not uncommon after the fast is broken.
But.........please.......keep WARM.
Regards
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I must admit I love the cold. I haven't worn a jumper (sweater?)for about 14 years, I go through winters here even to zero degrees celcius and beyond at times in shorts a tank top and bare feet. And I've swum in Hobart Bay which has nothing between it and Antartica but water and cold wind in July, which is the middle of winter here. Not just a quick dip but a real swim, very bracing. :) So I guess I'm a bit biased on cold weather. hehe- Re: Day 25 WF: Detox or Autointoxic... chrisb1
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This is a reply to # 1,018,839Huh.
A genuine hardy type eh?
Not like us mere mortals with central heating and thermal socks.
I used to be a 7 stone weakling...........now I think I'm a 12 stone weakling.
Thanks Andrew.
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,018,794lol I prefer to fast in the winter, the heat can cause more dizziness, make you sweat more easily and makes dehydration a factor if you aren't very careful with water, especially making sure you take plenty with you wherever you go. Animals more naturally fast in winter, ourselves included, when there is often less food around. We would stock up on our bountiful harvests in Autumn but also eat plenty in preparation for a long winter. Fasting at other times of the year is usually a response to some trauma or injury. In our case diseases of civilisation. :)
The lower body temp and shivering are normal. Your shivering response is keeping your extremities warm it's when you stop shivering you need to worry. But throw some extra bed coverings on if you have them, no need to suffer unduly.
I think the skin eruptions are a natural effect of ending a fast 'early'. Fasting to completion or till REAL HUNGER sets in again would naturally avoid any post fast detoxification, but without supervision I feel it is safer to lead up to this grand even than to attempt it while so many other obvious cleansings need to take place first. We are breaking a fast early so we are unavoidably breaking it while there are still toxins in the system on their way out. They have to go somewhere- maybe some return to where they came from, but some are too far out maybe and cause things like skin eruptions. Another post fast symptom I've had in the past was muscular pain. Very slight pain, most like flu symptoms than anything else though flu pain is more to the bone. The 'pain' was not more than discomfort really, didn't slow me down at all but told me very plainly that the detox in my body was definitely not complete.
Good luck getting some sun. :)
Take care,
Andrew.- Re: Day 25 WF: Detox or Autointoxic... #83873
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Thanks for the messages. Internet went AWOL for a few days.. I discovered the thermal socks a few years back, wow what an invention to keep your feet warm.. :) My internal thermostat is out of whack, so there are times I went to bed dressed as an artic explorer, with my husband commenting, "do I know you? " haha.
I was more warm than cold the early part of the fast but now am more chilly. I do think the discomfort of the fast is worth the process. I am so hoping for some miracles from it. My husband thought I should be completely detoxed by end of 30 days. I told him I don't think a lifetime of toxins and number of years of prescriptions meds can be detoxed in just 30 days.. Also they say adipose tissues stores alot of toxins on top of it. I hope it is not a losing battle against the toxins because pretty much everything has some toxins in it these days... ugh what a thought... think happy thoughts... I should tell myself...
So today is Day 28 - tongue is still totally disgusting and taste like cardboard. Nausea is bothering me and stomach is tender, but I think I might ask about this in a another post.
thanks again for your thoughts...- Re: Day 25 WF: Detox or Autointoxic... Fonty
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This is a reply to # 1,020,936You are doing fantastic. And yes one thirty day first is unlikely for most of us to get rid of toxins, especially the way they are pummelled with them today, the way they are casually tossed into most of the processed foods we eat. But getting rid of the backlog, as happens on the first long term fast, should make a huge difference to your life. Perfection may be a long road but there are plenty of benefits on the way there. Remember that the toxins you are releasing now are gone forever, and each time you do a fast in the future you will be getting deeper into the cells of the body releasing more and more, as well as maintaining your body and releasing toxins that you may still be introducing into the body in the meantime. And the maintenance if we can increase our intake of raw and less toically infected foods will be damned easy compared to the process of eliminating a whole lifetime's worth. :)
I find the taste hard to put up with as well. Some say you're actually tasting and later you even smell the last rotten waste as it is removed from the body. We just have to grin and bare it and know that what we do today won't have to be repeated tomorrow.
Take care,
Andrew.- Re: Day 25 WF: Detox or Autointoxic... 30dayfastby40
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hey, Fonty,
you seem full of really helpful thoughts so I thought I would address you on this forum,
I am starting a ?? day fast... 10 days?
I am in Day two today!!!! Just passed the 24 hour mark. I still feel really vulnerable in my commitment to the fast.
I am just checking in to say I was really held up by your thing about there being always benefits to any detoxing we can manage to do... and each detox is one that we won't have to repeat.
Today (sorry: graphic) I had a b.m. in the morning that was watery/"loose" and felt "sick" afterward ("dehydrated?") .. "weak" ... I felt so tired all day and slept for a while... I think my body was reading my mind's intention to fast for a number of days and reacting anticipatorily by starting to detox???
Mostly I am just scared by the thought of fasting for a number of days in a row... so I am telling myself "One moment at a time" ... I think I should try to avoid thinking about the whole long fast and just stay in the moment. This is frustrating to my "ambition," but it's the best I can do.
Sorry for long post. Just wanted to thank you for yours.- Re: Day 25 WF: Detox or Autointoxic... Fonty
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This is a reply to # 1,020,956Well done 30dayfast, you've already made a great start on your new fasting journey. Keep at it, and if you must eat then remember to break the fast properly and cleanly, this will help you with your next fast if you wish to continue on after your recovery period.
My experience has been that the cleaner you start the easier the first days are, but unless we've led a sheltered existence we will all come up against the tougher detoxifying symptoms at some stage. And certainly I repeat that what you are getting rid of now will be gone next time and you won't have to do it twice. I have done three separate fasts recently, the first one was very difficult and I only got to five days, the second one followed on very quickly with only a few days of fruit only in between.. That second fast was super easy, having done a lot of the early hard work in the previous fast I really cruised through this second fast and had little or no discomfort up to ten days into it. Then the discomfort I did have was unavoidable and had little to do with the fast itself. After having to break this fast I did so properly and ate raw fruit only for one week, then mostly raw salads- 90% raw- for the next week after that. From there still clean from eating raw and fully recovered from the 14 day fast I went straight into another fast. Again that fast was super easy, easier even than the previous one.
So don't be afraid to break a fast that is becoming too difficult. Break it well and you will more than likely find it a lot easier next time. Also the fear is something you need to give yourself time to overcome. If you are afraid to fast for long periods some people say that can be dangerous and actually cause the fast to go bad.
So it is a good idea to build up your fasting times gradually in some cases. As you fast for 2-3 days, then 5-6 days, 1-2 weeks etc you will not only make future fasts easier for yourself having cleaned out a lot of what is holding you back those first few days.. you will also give your mind a chance to relax and trust in the workings of your body during a fast.
Good luck whatever happens. You have the motivation and you have made a great start. And remember you don't have to fast continuously to hold on to what you've already gained. If the fast is too damned hard that's the time to teach your body the right foods to crave and break the fast properly.. then return to fight another day. :)
Cheers,
Andrew.
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